That Excel sheet is going to need some serious work this week

@_Ben4810

Ай бұрын

Perhaps James Vowles should have stuck with the old tried & trusted Excel spreadsheet manufacturing system...He might have produced that now much needed third chassis tub....🙄

@PedroMeireles-SSA

Ай бұрын

That's FAIR! Alex is MUCH better than Sargeant! Alex is faster all the Free Practices. Alex is faster in every single Qualy. Alex finishes ahead in EVERY SINGLE RACE! So, everybody, Sargeant included, knows exactly why Williams took that decision.

@kawaiikeyboards

Ай бұрын

the Excel program probably crashed several times while searching for the chassis parts to load up 😂

@GloomGaiGar

Ай бұрын

@@PedroMeireles-SSA I think you replied to the wrong guy lol

@nelsonbergman7706

Ай бұрын

Money is probably an issue 💰

It'd be hilarious if Albon also writes off this chassis

@langbuddha2798

Ай бұрын

hes a crash expert so im expecting it here in quali

@TastyCement

Ай бұрын

@@langbuddha2798 Huh? He rarely crashes, Judith, drop the bitterness.

@barrymitchell1488

Ай бұрын

​@TastyCement, yet he crashes in Australia 2nd year straight

@langbuddha2798

Ай бұрын

@@TastyCement brodie he has binned the car in the same place like 3 times now, i will be a miracle if that car makes it through the rest of the weekend

@barcafan94

Ай бұрын

@@TastyCement 2nd crash in a row in this corner

They did "Valtteri, It's James" to Sargent

@krissavagelive

Ай бұрын

What Logan needs going forward from this is a "To whom it may concern..." moment

@theodentherenewed4785

Ай бұрын

It's not "they", it's the James. If James is in your team and you're slower than your teammate - you get Jamesed. It's a clear message.

@DebbiSmithDC

Ай бұрын

Thing is Valteri does need to go.

@ryanmiguelmariano2576

Ай бұрын

Up for this comment....pretty hilarious🤣

@teabagtowers3823

Ай бұрын

​@@krissavagelive Don't see that happening sunshine....

Yeah, I think the bigger issue is that Williams doesn’t have a spare chassis. Hell, if Sargent is as bad as everyone says, you’d think they would have one (just in case).

@halofreak1990

Ай бұрын

The problem, as Williams explained, is changes made to the company's various processes over the winter that have left them unable to produce a spare chassis in time. In fact, they barely got two cars ready in time for the season, though not as bad as back in 2019

@kngofbng

Ай бұрын

He is as bad as everyone says and should have been laid off before the end of his first season. Williams is giving him a "chance" to keep paying the bills, not because they see any talent waiting to manifest. That said, yeah, a(nother) major warning light for Williams to no have a spare car so at least they can watch Logan come last 25+ seconds behind the pack again this weekend.

@daarom3472

Ай бұрын

exactly because he is this bad they dont have a spare chassis. He's not going to score anyways.

@langbuddha2798

Ай бұрын

@@kngofbng what baffles me is how quick people are to say Logan is trash but still defend Alex as if Alex didnt preform 10x worse then Logan in FP1 & FP2

@quigglyz

Ай бұрын

@@langbuddha2798 It's almost like we've had YEARS to see the extreme performance gap between Sargeant and Albon. I know that's hard to believe, but it's true. And it's also true that Sargeant isn't a good driver.

It's a good thing F1 kept Andretti out because there's no way they could keep up with these "competitive" teams.

@Payaso9

Ай бұрын

The FIA should just kick out Sauber and Haas

@filipruml

Ай бұрын

@@Payaso9 Haas is currently 6th

@lamatakbertemu8197

Ай бұрын

​@@filiprumlviking the defender

@filipruml

Ай бұрын

@@lamatakbertemu8197 Well yeah, I'm not saying they will stay there but just the fact that they came up with a strategy like that is huge step forward.

@ioni6x

Ай бұрын

why? One thing is competition and the other is bad stuff like this. This is the biggest operational L in a long time.@@Payaso9

"Logan, it's James..."

@Lanse1984

Ай бұрын

I thought the same thing

F1: "Andretti Global isnt ready for an F1 Entry" Meanwhile a current F1 Team 3 years into the new regulations. . .

"Logan, Albon is-faster-than-you"

@deadsan1190

Ай бұрын

Logan, Albon its waaaay faster than you

@hulloits4421

Ай бұрын

"Logan, it's James"

@langbuddha2798

Ай бұрын

@@deadsan1190 "Logan, Alex hits walls waaaaaaay faster then you" LMFAOOOOO both of these kids are out of a seat in 2025 and i cant wait.

@jameshogg601

Ай бұрын

But he is...

@jonathanjojo9732

Ай бұрын

legendary team radio, can t stop laughn u guys are brutal

Here’s your next Drive to Survive episode… 😢

From the team standpoint. I totally understand why Williams would go as far as sacrificing Sargeant for Albon. Albon has significantly bigger chance of scoring points than Sargeant. Brutal or not, when you see it from the bigger picture, it is the better decision. And maybe this decision could decide the standings at the end of this season, and if Albon didn't score any point at this race, it is a safer bet taken by Williams in terms of risk management.

@NotSamuzed0o0

Ай бұрын

The only bit missing here is, the only way Williams can score a single point would be a miracle. A lot of crashes needed and Albon being at his best, which he doesn't normally do on this Grand Prix.

@wasru.

Ай бұрын

let's be real bro it does not matter 🙏 williams are a poverty team

@agedretainer

Ай бұрын

@@NotSamuzed0o0 every driver needs miracle, something LeClerc never had LOL

@jacksdad2626

Ай бұрын

​@wastheythey R & will continue 2 improv e

@capo_di_capi

Ай бұрын

While you make the most sense out of all the comments here, the people that watch this clickbait UK style journalism don't care or don't understand what is actually happening inside Williams, they just want to make their smart assed comments that make zero sense in order to tear Williams further down.

Well. Peter Collins was once asked to hand over his car to Fangio, allowing Fangio finish 2nd and win the championship at the expense of Collins!

@_Ben4810

Ай бұрын

Jim Clark once turfed team mate Trevor Taylor out of his car whilst running in a podium position mid race to use his car...!

@Hecate24

Ай бұрын

dont tell the dts fans that one mate

@ramaanomuravha8575

Ай бұрын

Profound

@blackpaint9093

Ай бұрын

albon aint gonna win any championship or getting any points if that matters

@joachimbambury6376

Ай бұрын

And that was during the actual race

The worst that could happen is Alex scoring with Logan’s car and make a statement. The media will run with story to downgrade Logan further. I hope he can handle just in case that happens too.

@sonicslv6132

Ай бұрын

How is that the worst? Sargeant never blame his chassis and at this early in the season, a flawed chassis usually not an option in the table yet to blame lack of performance. This swap will not affect Sargeant credibility in any way, it will just affect Williams management credibility.

@kngofbng

Ай бұрын

I hope he realizes he's wasting everyone's time and go seek a drive in Indy Car or something. Maybe work at a bakery or in civil construction, something where he can put his skills to good use.

@_Ben4810

Ай бұрын

Oh good grief... it's Formula 1 not a reality TV show... Logan is the back of the grid driver, someone has to be there, & he's not making progress so hand the car over just like drivers used to do with team mates historically in Formula 1...

@vercingetorix5708

Ай бұрын

It says nothing. Logan has blamed the car for the performance gap less than any other driver, except maybe stroll. He blamed his performance last year on his lack of fitness.

@SNKr

Ай бұрын

Guys I can see what you say. I’m just saying the media and news outlets will use Alex scoring points if that happens to put down Logan. I didn’t mention anything about Logan blaming the car in past or present for his performance.

Sure it's unfair in a way but also logical from Williams' point of view given the gap in performance between both drivers.

@christiansimmons630

Ай бұрын

Williams should have enough spare parts and if they can’t then they shouldn’t be allowed to race - simple as really

@soundscape26

Ай бұрын

@@christiansimmons630 Yes they should have more spare parts I agree, but it seems clear that according to the rules you are only obliged to show up at races with two chassis. Can't repair your crashed car? Too bad, you sit out.

@langbuddha2798

Ай бұрын

what gap in performance? they are both driving like shit LUL if the both of them arent out of a seat in 2025 then they must have some dirt on the team

@DoDo-dq7yf

Ай бұрын

​@@langbuddha2798 wtf are you talking about? Albon was amazing last year

@christiansimmons630

Ай бұрын

@@soundscape26 100% agree but Albon should be the one sitting out

If they want to know if Sarg is good enough, this would be the perfect opportunity to see if he can handle the pressure. To me, this indicates they won't be keeping him next year.

@madams3110

Ай бұрын

Logan's gonna end up at IMSA or Indy sooner than later.

@cusernament

Ай бұрын

@@madams3110 it's true. I feel bad for the kid because he tries so hard and seems really low on confidence.

P1 made an excellent point. Logan in many respects is lucky to have a seat for this season. If last season at his lowest point you said to him ‘we believe in you enough to give you another season, but if needed we will prioritise Alex if it is in our best interest to score points’ I’m sure he’d accept it with open arms

It's definitely not a difficult decision for Williams to give Sargeants car to Albon 🤣🤣

They used to swap cars in races back in the day. No big deal. He is team leader so he will get the drive.

@kurtganiko3358

Ай бұрын

I'm confused. Isn't the chassis assigned to Logan? How can a tub be swapped between drivers. Look at it this way.....if it was an engine, could they really swap between drivers? (Yup, Martin Brundle running back to the pits for the spare car......and wasn't it at Australia also that this happened?)

@vt2077

Ай бұрын

​@@kurtganiko3358 Seats are easily changed i think. Have you ever seen endurance races these days?

@kurtganiko3358

Ай бұрын

I'm not talking about the seat/insert. I'm talking about the tub. The tub (cockpit) being what the nose cone, engine, suspension, etc are all bolted too. @@vt2077

@deliberation6022

Ай бұрын

@@kurtganiko3358 Did you watch the last race? They can change the seat.

@agedretainer

Ай бұрын

@@kurtganiko3358 car is configurable and seats interchangeable. The seat itself is measured on the driver but it does not mean you cannot fit it to another chassis - if they brought a spare chasis, they can just simply transfer the seat of either driver who needs the spare chassis

It's harsh, but given the giant overhaul Vowles is doing to the team it is understandable that they are missing parts and in these situations you gotta leave emotions out of it. Albon is most likely to score points for the team and should thus drive the car in the race.

@detrich2009

Ай бұрын

he's also most likely to hit a wall, but we won't bring that up

@_Ben4810

Ай бұрын

Oh please, this "giant overhaul" James Vowles is crying to the press about appears to be a serious & underhanded gaslighting of his respected predecessor Jost Capito, a man with a huge & proven motor sport CV with multiple manufacturers in various disciplines...

@Rezcuz

Ай бұрын

@@detrich2009 Are you okay? Sargeant had 3.9 million worth of damages vs Albon's 1.8 in 2023 lmao

@user-gb5od8nh7m

Ай бұрын

​@@_Ben4810mate you can't be serious. A team that once dominated f1 doesn't become a backmarker without there being something fundamentally wrong in the organisation and the problems at williams started way before Jost took over.

@rars0n

Ай бұрын

@@_Ben4810 The problem with this logic is that it raises more questions than it answers. I think Jost did a fine job given what he was working with and I would have liked to have seen him stick around, but if Vowles was handed this much of a mess, then either Jost did little to improve it or it was THAT much worse when he took over. The Excel spreadsheet is an easy thing to correct: you do what Vowles did, make the decision to take your medicine and crunch hard in order to overhaul the entire backend of your operation, creating short-term pain for long-term gain. It seems odd to me that such a thing wouldn't have been among the top priorities for Jost, as it effects almost everyone's ability to do their jobs. Perhaps it was an issue of money, I have no idea, but either way your comment makes little sense.

Red Bull to Seb: Here take Mark's front wing! Williams to Alex: Take Logan's entire car!

It's more of a team issue in not having an extra car available. Brings up interesting speculation of what some other teams would do in choosing what driver participates in a similar situation.

Williams is struggling for points everywhere. Any point is a major up for the team. Of course Williams would prefer an experienced, better-performing driver, Alex, to maximize their chances of points in the race. Although I expected Williams to have confidence in Logan, as they did by extending his contrcat last year, there is no way you can completely claim they've made the wrong decision here. Logan already owes Williams who kept his seat in F1 till this year anyways. Though the morals can be debated, I don't think Williams have done anything wrong. They just did what people in F1 would do. After all, F1 is NOT a charity.

@kngofbng

Ай бұрын

Williams's confidence in Logan = They're confident his check will keep clearing so they can buy parts for Alex to use.

@CosmicSeeker69

Ай бұрын

It's click bait time from Glenn

@gpaje

Ай бұрын

​You realize that Sergeant cost the team 5 million in wreck chassis last year, while Albon supplied almost all the points, it's not even close to who brings in the money.

@NotSamuzed0o0

Ай бұрын

​@@gpajeAs of now, Albon is beating him, hopefully he doesn't destroy 2 chassis in a weekend...😅

@gpaje

Ай бұрын

@@NotSamuzed0o0 Hopefully not.

Not a sacrifice. You have to go with the guy that gives you the best chance to score points. The margins are too small to make any other decision and I'm American.

@HyperScorpio8688

Ай бұрын

Is it gonna be "not a sacrifice" when Albono bins the second car as well?

@jameshenderson3013

Ай бұрын

@@HyperScorpio8688 You actually think Sargent has a better chance of points then Albon ???

@Jacob-qt1nt

Ай бұрын

@@HyperScorpio8688that’s not 100% going to happen, Albon just is the better driver all round, Logan should step his game up if he wants shit like this to not happen.

@voss9842

Ай бұрын

⁠@@jameshenderson3013 For what it’s worth. Albon did put it into the wall last year on driver error. I wouldn’t be shocked if Albon’s feeling the amount of pressure Williams just put on him to deliver.

@HyperScorpio8688

Ай бұрын

Albon might be fast, but being fast ain't worth shit if you keep binning it@@Jacob-qt1nt

James lives in data. The historical data says Albon is faster and more likely than Sargeant to score points. Brutal for Sargeant, but the correct decision to make if trying to score championship points.

Man, I just love the content of this channel, its gives a good amount of information along with people's factual opinions. Love the color grading of the pictures 😍 its just beautiful

Considering I started watching F1 as a kid with Williams dominating in the early 90s this is a very sad state of affairs.

@SmallBlogV8

Ай бұрын

Honestly, even this isn't as sad as 2019. At least there's actually the expectation that they'll be in with a chance of scoring points. Even that wasn't true at any given race five years ago.

@adityagupta7525

Ай бұрын

@@SmallBlogV8 you would think that 5 years on things would be better or am I wrong?

When Albon finishes outside the points, will people just be like 'yeah well Albon finished 14th and Sargent would have been 17th hur hur hur'?

@quigglyz

Ай бұрын

Is this your first F1 season?

@Ausknutz

Ай бұрын

Yes, because finishing 14th is better for the championship position even though no points are awarded. That´s why right now Williams is 7th in the WCC, ahead of all the others with 0 points as them, because finishing order matters.

@gpaje

Ай бұрын

Albon brought in 27 points last year while Sergeant brought in one, and also wrecked a bunch of chassis. There was no team point differential bigger.

@chrisc475

Ай бұрын

​@@AusknutzPrecisely this. In a tie break between teams, the position is decided by number of finishes at each position. AA getting a P11 (instead of LS getting a P17) might be the difference at the end of the season. Finishing one place higher in the WCC is worth $10m in prize money.

@KINGMARS413

Ай бұрын

@@gpaje I don't think Sargeant broke a chassis last year, I think it was mostly fixable damages

This tells Sargeant, categorically, that his team doesn't believe in his ability to deliver for them. That is now totally undeniable as things stand. The real point, other than the embarrassment of not having a third chassis on hand, is that this is round 3 of 23 and he now has up to 20 chances to prove them wrong. That's how he needs to internalise this.

honestly I'm glad JV took over the role of team principal at Williams and having to rework everything from scratch. He wasn't able to do anything last year and still got the results in, this year he's actually changing the work culture which has plagued the team for so long. The only real reason Williams actually got away with it for so long was back then there wasn't 20+ races to deal with, but with the current race schedules and shorter winter testings the Excel spreadsheet thing just isn't gonna cut it. Albon just needs to drive and Sergeant just have to be a team player for this weekend. He will have his chance to prove himself in the next race and so on, so at least he won't get condemned if he had done anything bad this weekend.

@_Ben4810

Ай бұрын

Meh, you only know about the Williams "restructuring" because of Vowles carefully sowing these seeds in press interviews...& now he has been exposed as all Excel spreadsheet yap & no 3rd chassis tub. Vowles predecessor Jost Capito was a highly experienced senior management guy in motor sport, he knew how to build & run teams & cars in multiple disciplines, & Vowles was clearly gaslighting him for his own failings which have now been exposed...

It sucks for Logan, but the maths of the situation all line up against him, and Williams can't afford to do any less than maximise their chances of scoring points. I respect him as a person, and I hope he finds his groove this year. And I imagine that Albon regrets what has happened too.

When your team has a #1 driver and only has one car, this isn't a hard decision. Harsh but true.

They're talking about pressure being on Williams but I'd argue the pressure is on Albon now. He needs a clean weekend now because if he bins it again (hopefully not) it will cause all sorts of drama

As Scott said, Logan must use this to fuel his response going forward.

Why haven’t Williams got a spare chassis? That’s the mistake here.

@shadow7037932

Ай бұрын

Because they don't have the money. They did a big internal restructuring on the way things were done in off season which most certainly cost a pretty penny. I mean hell, they were using Excel to manage everything until the restructure.

@jkliao6486

Ай бұрын

They didn't have one. The manufacturing capability of the team is absolutely dogsh*t

@Kbandz313

Ай бұрын

Probably don’t have the extra money to ship it to Australia

@agedretainer

Ай бұрын

​@@jkliao6486impossible that they don't have one, so they only have 1 car for the rest of season then? It looks like they're saving on transportation cost so decided not to bring spare.

@jkliao6486

Ай бұрын

@@agedretainerThey didn't have a spare chassis rn, and the damage on this one was so severe they had to send it back to their factory to fix it, which doesn't mean they would only have one car from now on. It can be fixed, just not with the basic tools they have in the paddock.

Netflix has 10 Episodes Already

Difference between this pre season rush and 2019. This rush is down to ambition and the infrastructure not being in place to support it. 2019 was just a management shit show. The knock on effect of which is still being felt.

Hard to believe that crash was so catastrophic. It looked pretty mundane.

Alex: bruv imma need your car

@kngofbng

Ай бұрын

Logan: Dude, where's my car?

Very big case why Andretti should join F1

@Moray2023

Ай бұрын

Or maybe it's evidence that producing a F1 car is a lot harder than people give the teams credit for.

@LimitPro1

Ай бұрын

@@Moray2023 no excuse for not having a spare, Andretti would already have one ready right away.

@Moray2023

Ай бұрын

@@LimitPro1 no one is making an excuse for not having a spare, Williams have been very open on the issues. There is literally no proof Andretti would be doing any better.

@sunnohh

Ай бұрын

@@Moray2023other than cadillac having billions to piss away

@Moray2023

Ай бұрын

@@sunnohh you can't piss away billions under a cost cap.

I guess it can be explained by what they call a "skill issue".

A good question is whether Logan actually had a choice, in terms of considering his mental state in this. Another big thing is that the competetors now know that Williams is exposed, if they loose the car running now, they are unable to compete, so Alex has to protect the car, or risk a lot in terms of being able to compete in races. So pushing a Williams racer in the coming races, will net a pass, since they can't risk damaging the car. So if you are RB, Sauber, Haas or Alpine, you are going to want to push that car, so you are not the 10th in constructors.

It's not fair for Logan, however it would be even less fair on the team members to give them the best chance of Scoring. Its a team sport at the end of the day, no one complains when a substitute is made in Football.

If I'm Logan, i'm in the garage with the mechanics doing whatever work on Albons car. Getting it ready to ship back to the UK. Then probably watching Albon drive, checking telemetry, etc Doing whatever to keep busy, work with the team, learn and not sulk. Be a team player. It's now part of his job to make sure Albon finishes the best he can.

@Redskies453

Ай бұрын

Only because he has no options, it's shameful to sit there watching your team mate drive your car because you're not respected. If I had any option at all I would be out of there.

I don't see an issue with swapping out, I just assumed the tub would be allocated to a driver. I had read a book years ago about another driver giving his car up during a Grand Prix for Fangio. Fangio being so far ahead he was actually able to swap on track and still win the race.

Japan being placed at race 4 carries risk too. While it has some run-off, due to environmental restrictions during its 1960s build, there’s not much margin at some of its high-speed corners and a serious crash is v.possible. As Sargent found out in 2023 qualifying *when he wrote off his chassis* at the final corner. That third “spare” chassis for Suzuka will be a racing chassis now, so unless Williams has started making a 4th for the first week of April or is accelerating a planned 4th that’s already begun, they could have the same situation in a few weeks. Even Brawn (who really lacked the resource for a full season’s racing when they set out) had 3 chassis at the first race in Melbourne. Good job too because even being very careful to never break the car, Rubens had done in a few front wings & cracked chassis BGP-001-01 by Singapore.

Does this really need explaining?

@ShahiedJohaadien

Ай бұрын

It's content for the channel 😁

@alexmattie

Ай бұрын

Yes because all the drive to survive fans are whining that logan should be driving.... it's logical to most and on paper but still a story!

Why would you keep a driver where this sort of situation would ever make sense?

@kngofbng

Ай бұрын

Because of sponsor money. There's no other reason for any team to give a seat to such a sub-par driver.

@TMJ32

Ай бұрын

@@kngofbng theres tons of drivers with sponsorship money out there that aren't so useless you give their car to their crashed teammate.

@kngofbng

Ай бұрын

@@TMJ32That's a whole new level of suck and of evidence the team is just carrying dead weight they can't trust when push comes to shove.

@TMJ32

Ай бұрын

@@kngofbng Williams only finished in 7th 3 pts above Alpha Tauri last year and 12 pts above Alfa Romeo. The difference between 7th and 8th prize money is $9M and the difference between 7th and 9th is $18M. How much is Sargeant paying them? It better be more than that.

@volatilepz

Ай бұрын

Obviously nobody here knows that Williams admitted they promoted him a year too early and wants their driver academy to gain legitimacy by promoting their own driver and KEEPING him on to develop past his first season. Sargeant doesn't bring enough sponsorship cash to warrant a "pay driver" label.

What a sad state of affairs for such a team. This is more embarrassing than a composites department 20 years behind or a 20,000 line excel sheet for their car.

Lack of respect from Albon to Logan to accept this. This wouldn't happen between other honorable drivers. Disappointed and angry at Williams.

As we talk about harshness, Sargent's 2024 contract is harsh on so many talented drivers who have no chance to drive an F1 car.

@Redlingstein

Ай бұрын

Williams will give their OWN WILLIAMS ACADEMY DRIVERS a seat, like Logan….not drivers frontier teams! So stop this nonsense

If teams really did what was “right for the team,” Stroll would be driving in another series already.

@jgagnier

Ай бұрын

He’s clearly in the bottom third of F1 drivers with RIC/MAG/SAR/ZHO, I won’t argue that. Still, who would be better? Drugovich? Schumacher? Giovinazzi? What’s best for the team, ultimately, is Lawrence Stroll being a fantastic investor and team owner. He bought a team that was on the verge of bankruptcy, turned it into a smooth F1 operation that has attracted Aston Martin, Honda, Vettel and Alonso. If the cost of that is that one of the drivers is his marginal F1 talent of a son, one of the best pay drivers we’ve seen albeit one that lacks any kind of consistency, so be it. Hot take: F1 has benefitted massively from Lance Stroll being good enough to hang around in the bottom third of F1 drivers.

@daryld149

Ай бұрын

@@jgagnier While I don’t agree with all of your points, I see your argument. The team obviously benefits from Papa Stroll. And yes, he’d likely take his resources elsewhere if not for his son. That’s the essence of my point. If Lance’s last name was De Vries (for example), I doubt he'd still be with the team.

@jgagnier

Ай бұрын

@@daryld149Yeah, I get your point. Stroll the driver isn't an asset to F1, but him *being* a driver is an asset. Stroll is a fringe F1 driver like the aforementioned ones. His driving performance is replacement level. And that's what makes him a unique pay driver: he's actually good enough, on merit, not to be out of his depth in F1. Not elite by any means, but passable. Is Stroll driving in a GP weekend a net benefit for F1? No. Is the net effect of Stroll having a drive in F1 positive? Oh, massively.

@sheldoniusRex

Ай бұрын

Yeah, the PGA. That's likely the only car Lance could be trusted not to crash.

"Logan, it's James".

not fair on the driver, but it's the best strategy for the TEAM. Sargent has never looked like scoring. facts

Andretti would have brought a spare chassis, literally making them more competitive than Williams now. Yet Williams gets to block Andretti from joining F1.

@dahorn100011

Ай бұрын

So Andretti would contravene the rules then...t cars aren't allowed anymore.

@ertugruldemirhan1381

Ай бұрын

@@dahorn100011 t car ≠ spare chassis. A T-car was a fully built and functional spare car. A spare chassis is exactly what the name implies, a spare chassis part. Every team is allowed to bring spare chassis

@Ceece20

Ай бұрын

@@dahorn100011 someone didn’t read my post and made up something completely different from what I said to make a strawman argument. Don’t bother arguing if you’re going to lie and make a logical fallacy at the same time.

@aaronyoghurt9210

Ай бұрын

yea fck this sport

@ronbelanger4113

Ай бұрын

Andretti would still be on a boat trying to get to the last race event.

If you can't manage to bring an extra chassis on a street course, then you don't belong in F1. This is silly.

@HexAyed

Ай бұрын

Ferrari have done something similar before...

@ronbelanger4113

Ай бұрын

LOL, yeah you should be running teams.

@Nikelaos_Khristianos

Ай бұрын

You’re acting like this has never happened before. 😂😂😂

@stephanetessier3378

Ай бұрын

​@@Nikelaos_Khristianos I'm sure Williams' shareholders will be comforted by the fact that this has happened before.

@VelvetBlades

Ай бұрын

​@@stephanetessier3378 kind of an over the top statement, based on the video and the explanation provided. It's obviously a tough spot for the team to be in. I personally think it's promising, that their gambling big to try turn things out. In this case the gamble hasn't worked in their favour.

I can't believe this even needs to be discussed.

It's so harsh on a personal level for Sargeant, i didn't think they'd actually do it, after all he's not stuck it in the wall, but reckon his fate was finally sealed in FP2, when after a few wobbles and small offs, he spun the car at fairly high speed and very nearly collected another car in the process. If i was Williams team principle i'd have been having kittens watching that and thinking if we're going to run the risk of writing off another car, we'd be as well doing it with the guy who'd at least have been more likely to get us up the grid and hopefully some points if we could get him in the race. Not really sure how well it'll play out long term, it's effectively become a vote of 'yeah we don't trust you to deliver'.

Sargeant was told to step aside. There. I fixed it for you.

Explanation: Sargeant shouldn't be in F1 anyway.

@MikkelL03

Ай бұрын

Agreeable. Idk why sergeant is still in f1 but lawson isn't

@redbullsauberpetronas

Ай бұрын

​@@MikkelL03Lawsons junior career is worse than Sargeants lol

@Grooove_e

Ай бұрын

It's his 2nd year in F1....Albon went from Redbull B team to RedBull and couldn't hang with it in a faster car. But Albon deserves a drive??

@simracing4simpletons978

Ай бұрын

Team contracts feels like the very obvious reason. @@MikkelL03

@whyareyoureadingmynickname8158

Ай бұрын

@@Grooove_e Albon has 2 podiums on his name, nearly won a race at one point and he lapped Gasly (who was driving for Red Bull) in 2019's German GP. He also managed to get points with mediocre machinery quite a few times. Yes, he does deserve a drive.

Interesting how media approaches this topic in UK vs how it would be approached in US is fascinating.

albon is quicker but its a bit unfair

IF Sargeant had a better track record then I would feel sorry for him, but he hasn't. The team has to optimise its best chances to score points.

Why? Because one driver occasionally scores points and the other is always last

Its on the spreadsheet. Look it up.

I think the cars should not be swappable with your active drivers

Not harsh on Sargeant. Albon consistently finishes 30 seconds up the road from him. Its on Sargeants past performances.

@langbuddha2798

Ай бұрын

30 seconds up the road crashed out missing 2 wheels yeah thats so much better LOL they both need to be replaced before the season is over

@dgrblue4162

Ай бұрын

Logan didn't crash his car

Logan never deserved the seat anyways

@agedretainer

Ай бұрын

He's paying $30m to drive for Williams, so he deserve it for his money lol. If you have $40m to offer, perhaps Williams will take you instead to drive, they need more money than skills.

If he didn't know he is already skating on thin ice, then I would question his grip on reality. The best thing he can do, other than improve throughout the season, is to accept this situation gracefully.

Totally embarrassing for Williiams...not to have a spare chassis when you fly half way around the world.

We used to have complete spare cars, now we don’t even have a spare chassis?? Perhaps F1 needs to update its contract terms to require a spare chassis? This is (yet another) bad look for the show.

Who knows? Maybe Sargeant takes this "punch to the face" and comes back "Rocky" style and starts to dominate? Let me give this script idea to ChatGPT and see what it comes up with.

@_Ben4810

Ай бұрын

Hopefully while he's punch drunk he signs an IndyCar contract with Foyt Racing for next season then...😉

As a minimum entry condition to any F1 race a team should always have a spare vehicle available to avoid the embarrassment of this exact issue.

I love James and all but that Excel sheet should be canceled. It probably said there was a spare chassis in Australia and they never updated it.

@_Ben4810

Ай бұрын

He was gaslighting his Williams predecessor & the manufacturing systems he oversaw...& 3 races into the season with no 3rd chassis tub available, we now know why he was deflecting any blame from himself...he knew...& Karma has now caught James out.

Thought there were no #1 drivers. Unfair to Sargeant when Albon made the mistake.

@kondjanegongo796

Ай бұрын

Logan sucks and didn't deserve a F1 to begin with

@dipsan95

Ай бұрын

Harsh but Logi is a terrible driver. Logan crashed alot more last year than Albo and had a single point to Albo's 27. It's not unfair it's a competitive sport, and Mr Sargent can't compete.

They shouldve had Sargeant run a second F2 season and have this be his rookie year in F1

@kondjanegongo796

Ай бұрын

Dude suck and is not F1 material... Drogovich deserved that seat over this crash clown

@kngofbng

Ай бұрын

Or have this be his third F2 season. And next year be the fourth. And so on until he goes do something he's actually good at.

@redbullsauberpetronas

Ай бұрын

@@kngofbng you're braindead lol

@kondjanegongo796

Ай бұрын

@@kngofbng Lmao... i think u onto something

@BiggieTrismegistus

Ай бұрын

Sargeant actually *was* supposed to be in F2 last year, but Williams needed a driver and he was all they had.

F1 is ruthless and this decision is a good long term one with MILLIONS on the line. For this midfield, every point matters. If Sargent was getting points every now and then, he would have a better case. Hopefully Williams can move on from their friggin excel sheet era and keep up with modern tech in the next few years

Alex has proven to have a better chance of scoring points for the team which is their primary focus, it's a no brainer.

I hear a lot of people saying this is not Sargeant's fault... It absolutely is Sargeant's fault. If he had been better, this would not have happened.

Life isnt fair, Williams made the sensible choice for the team. LS will understand even if he doesn’t like it.

The actual fear is that if Williams writes off the second car this weekend, then they won't be out there for Japan. 18, not 20 cars. This is the example that A) Andretti tried to warn them about, B) FOM was trying to ignore, and C) Teams that were either managerial or financially inept are allowed to continue, thus causing problems for "the powers that be" in being able to fulfill staging races with an incomplete grid. This could result in a situation far worse than just a team losing points...

Will they still be down a chassis for a while after this race given they now need to repair or replace Alex’s chassis?

Why are all your titles clickbait

@0Synergy

Ай бұрын

Its not clickbait?

How is it harsh? Logan can't score points haha... unless 4 teams crash their cars huhu

@torrinmedia3998

Ай бұрын

It's harsh because he is being punished due to Albon's mistake.

@teka5509

Ай бұрын

@@torrinmedia3998 Ok, so what if it's harsh? Be better then.

@RoyLimisAw3s0me

Ай бұрын

@@torrinmedia3998 how is it harsh? lmao.. he was beaten by Liam Lawson who had only 5 races while Logan had a whole season haha

Williams did not keep Sargeant because "they believe in him". Everyone know that that is not true. So, the question that came to my mind was "Isn't Sargeant paying for his drive?", directly or indirectly? If he is paying for his drive, as much as I do not agree with pay-drivers, it doesn't make sense for him to pay for his drive and not be able to drive. In addition, I would expect that to be in contract, i.e. having the contractual right to drive on every event in the calendar. If that's the case, I would assume that something was signed this weekend which prevents Sargeant from pursuing legal action for his car having been used by someone else. Another question that I asked myself was "What happens if this situation repeats itself in the next couple of events? Will Sargeant not be able to drive again because the other side of the garage happens to need his car?" It could very well happen again until Williams produces another monocoque, or at least two new monocoques if Albon's damaged one being unrepairable.

If Albon doesn’t get points F1 DTS is going to be crazy next season

FIA should clamp down...you have a team like Williams showing up without spare parts, lack of resources, outdated practices, cars not ready for pre season testing...then you have Andretti that has everything and more...it doesnt make sense. Teams should meet minimum requirements and one of those should be both cars start the race under normal circumstances. Are other teams capable of putting themselves in the position Williams is in now? I bet everyone else has spares.

Considering Albon Qualified 2 tenths behind Hamilton, in P12, and there's a good opportunity for points if the AMs fall back as they have before, I think they made the harsh but right decision if it were Piastri or Sainz, I don't think it would've been justified even though there teammates are slightly faster. I also think if this was RBR we'd be up in arms, but then again RBR don't look like they're going ti be fighting for their championship position It's frustrating for sargeant, especially with Kimi waiting in the wings, but the rught call

As a midfield team, it is kinda understandable for the decision, but imagine that this would happen to a top team like Merc, RB, or Ferrari.

Just when I was starting to kind-of like Williams..

@ISirSmoke

Ай бұрын

why would this situation make you dislike them ? they are clearly in trouble and need support

@happylittlesynth

Ай бұрын

@@ISirSmoke Exactly....it's one team, not two. This is the team's best chance to get points.

Extra interesting to watch the weekend. Points, another crash or too careful to race.

Happy Birthday to Alex! And congrats on the new car!

This is just disrespectful, and looks bad for Williams. If Albon doesn't score or if worse he crashes, then James is going to look like a complete fool. If this was towards the end of the season then I might understand a bit more, but doing this at the 3rd race? Management 101 on what NOT to do. Honestly, I hope Albon puts it into the wall again.

@Torta--is--PLUR

Ай бұрын

He has already scored 23x the points logan has...stfu it's business

@ChrispyNut

Ай бұрын

I disagree. Logan's just not putting in the performances and how many cars has he trashed on his way to contributing very little?!?

@NandoFIT-df8ly

Ай бұрын

James did this before with Bottas in his role at Merc so it's not a surprise he does this.

@AJ-zy9jf

Ай бұрын

I agree, but doing it this early in the season doesn't really make sense. Also Albon crashed in that same corner last year, and if he does it again , it's not going to be good lol@@NandoFIT-df8ly

@sonicslv6132

Ай бұрын

It's not disrespectful, it's very understandable. Williams looks bad not because the swap, but because their lack of preparedness to supply 3rd chassis. And it makes sense to do this early in the season because as for now, Williams has good enough pace to give them favorable chance to score points, which nobody can be sure if they can keep up with midfield developments later in the season.

Williams doesn’t have enough money to maintain two cars on the track after an accident like Alex had. Let that sink in.

@StuntpilootStef

Ай бұрын

Not true, they don't have a third chassis on hand.

@ioni6x

Ай бұрын

is there a reason why?@@StuntpilootStef

@StuntpilootStef

Ай бұрын

@@ioni6x It's explained in the bloody video...

@THECOLONEL50

Ай бұрын

​@@StuntpilootStef I think he meant a compelling reason. Not just that Williams is incompetent.

@StuntpilootStef

Ай бұрын

@@THECOLONEL50 Which is explained in the flying flamingo flaming bloody video my good man

No Brainer!

I don't need an explanation. I was around race teams most of my life. I worked for a couple. I fully understand taking one for the team. The drivers get the glory when many others make it possible for that to happen. How Logan reacted to this will be remembered. He was a team player. That will earn the respect of the team faster than anything else. Alex is the best chance to score desperately needed points. Its was the only call .

Disgraceful move from Williams. No two ways about it. Most importantly, have a spare chassis. Second, dont penalize one driver for the mistakes of the other.

@3mr1n

Ай бұрын

Sure it sucks but it makes all the sense for the team. And it's just the third race of the season, I doubt more than half the teams have a spare chassis.

@exionace6924

Ай бұрын

Go fund the team and make the management decisions then

@THECOLONEL50

Ай бұрын

​​​@@exionace6924why fund trash though?

Pretty harsh to be told "the car is going to the best driver" and then give it to the guy who crashed.

@mh518

Ай бұрын

but he's better

@dipsan95

Ай бұрын

How many times did logan crash last year? All for 1 point, compared to Albons 27.

@pavarottiaardvark3431

Ай бұрын

@@mh518 which of them crashed yesterday?

@mh518

Ай бұрын

@@pavarottiaardvark3431 Albon, but you can't deny that he's been the better driver in general.

@pavarottiaardvark3431

Ай бұрын

@@mh518 I don't I just think it's harsh to take the car away from the guy who didn't crash. It's not HIS fault.

The main thing I learned from this B-roll is Logan Sergeant is the most hydrated man in the world.

It would of been MUCH more surprising if they didn’t do this. But the bigger issue obviously is why any team would be unable to repair crash damage at an event. We should all be questioning Williams on that, not WHO they put in.

Coming off the heels of the shitshow with Andretti, it REALLY makes me angry as an American motorsports fan.

why when there was not that big a change from 2023 car why do they not do what they used to do with starting the season with last years car or even just as a spare ?