For all who are concerned that we didn't mention Earth's magnetic field in this video ... we didn't because David Wallace is not an expert on Earth's magnetic field. He's an expert on electrical grids worldwide. If someone tells you they are expert in solar flares AND electric grids AND Earth's magnetic field, don't believe them! It just means they are expert in NONE of those things. We'll have a magnetic field expert on soon!

Plowed the fields for hundreds of years without GPS.

@earthsky

2 ай бұрын

That was before there were 8 billion people on earth to feed tho….

I’m sure he’s an expert in his field, however all the studies say he’s wrong. A Carrington-like CME (flare was actually estimated at X45) that directly hits Earth in less than 20min - especially with Earth’s diminishing electromagnetic field - would undoubtedly be catastrophic longer term.

@earthsky

2 ай бұрын

No, you are wrong. It won't be catastrophic. Please watch this interview. He mentioned the many studies that have been done within the electrical power industry in the past few decades, since public awareness of a Carrington-sized event has grown. The power industry hasn't just sat idly by during all that. As David Wallace says in this video, smaller power stations might go down during a powerful solar event. There might be "inconveniences" on timescales of week ("not as long as a month," he said). But the electrical power industry knows much better now how to take the steps needed to prevent a global outage. Solar storms won't destroy civilization. The exact same situation has happened over my lifetime (and I'm 73) regarding the potential for asteroids to strike Earth. The public awareness about that began growing in the 1970s. And astronomers began studying it. And governments began providing grant funds for astronomers to WATCH for asteroids - and track them - so that now we KNOW no Earth-destroying asteroid will strike Earth in this century.

@amjisaac

2 ай бұрын

Allow me to clarify, I never implied that a large solar storm would destroy civilization. I said it would be catastrophic longer term than he is suggesting, unfortunately KZread doesn’t allow links in comments. According to the 2022 documentary “Grid Down, Power Up,” if we lost only 6-9 transformers nationwide, it would take months to recover the grid due to the domino effect on the infrastructure. Both FEMA and Congressional Research Service studies from within the last 5 years also contradict his opinion. Calm and prepared is better than just being dismissive.

@amjisaac

2 ай бұрын

Links can't be shared in the comments; otherwise, I'd provide the research. To clarify, I previously stated the effect on the power grid would be catastrophic longer term (i.e., weeks to months) than Dr Wallace indicated, not civilization ending. Numerous solar physicists consider these times unprecedented, potentially leading to cataclysmic solar events and acknowledge that utilities and government agencies are actively working on improving the resilience of the power grid infrastructure to mitigate these risks. 1. Recent reports from space weather monitoring agencies like NOAA’s Space Weather Prediction Center (SWPC) and NASA’s Solar Dynamics Observatory (SDO) have indicated that some of the current sunspots, including AR 3664, AR 3675, and AR 3685, exhibit complex magnetic configurations with delta regions. This complexity increases the likelihood of significant solar activity similar to the Carrington Event, and the solar maximum of cycle 25 has yet to be determined. 2. According to the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA), the swiftest Earth-directed coronal mass ejections (CMEs) can arrive in as little as 15-18 hours. However, the Deep Space Climate Observatory (DSCOVR) satellite provides the initial observation of an imminent CME arrival, offering a 15 to 60-minute advance warning of the initial shock's arrival at Earth. This information does not consider ongoing studies on the effects of Earth's weakening magnetic field during its current cycle. 3. Jeffrey Love, a research geophysicist with the U.S. Geological Survey (USGS), has contributed to research on solar-induced power outages. His current findings suggest that while DSCOVR's data is essential, the brief warning period may not suffice for grid operators to take all necessary measures to fully protect the grid infrastructure. 4. The 2022 documentary "Grid Down, Power Up" and recent studies by both FEMA and the Congressional Research Service emphasize that disabling just 6-9 of the 30 high-voltage transformers nationwide could trigger a domino effect on the infrastructure, potentially taking months to fully restore power. It's far more prudent to remain calm and prepared than to be dismissive. Public awareness and readiness can help ensure that we're better equipped to handle such events if they occur.

@earthsky

2 ай бұрын

@@amjisaac There's a lot of non-calmness around the issue of solar flares! People are SCARED of them. And they shouldn't be. It'll be okay. I'll look for that documentary. Thank you.

@deemisquadis9437

2 ай бұрын

We are being conditioned with sun flares, radiation poisoning from the sun, xradiation, and gamma and ultraviolet and alpha and beta waves. This is evolution.

Good to hear that we have nothing to worry about with EMP’s.

@earthsky

2 ай бұрын

Oh EMPs! I haven't heard anyone mention of EMPs in our daily sun news posts. There was a big hoopla about EMPs being the thing that would destroy civilization some years back (in the 1990s? early 2000s?). But that notion was disproven, and people stopped talking about it. Has the EMP story begun making the rounds again?

@PianoPatterns123

2 ай бұрын

@@earthsky Some politicians think that an EMP would destroy the electrical grid which in turn impact buying food at the grocery store. But, if solar flares are of no concern then I guess we have nothing to worry about an EMP. Just a bunch of politicians trying to scare us.

@earthsky

2 ай бұрын

@@PianoPatterns123 The EMP story that you describe was indeed being promoted by politicians a couple of decades ago. And maybe there are still some ignorant politicians promoting it. If so, it's not the doomsday scenario they describe. Honestly, we haven't heard much on this story in a long, long time.

@PianoPatterns123

2 ай бұрын

@@earthsky no need to put electronics in a faraday cage. The sun will never cause that much damage on computer chips.

@deemisquadis9437

2 ай бұрын

Our solar system evolution event is happening right now.

We should construct at least 1 sustainable city in a cave.

@earthsky

2 ай бұрын

I vote putting one in a lava tube on the moon.

From the NOAA website: BPS [Bulk Power System] is designed to handle minor upsets - must withstand a single contingency event (in an operating area - multiple contingency events more difficult to cope with (extreme solar event).

@gusgoddamnit

Ай бұрын

Actually, just check out what they say on here. Apparently, this guy is wrong. www.swpc.noaa.gov/sites/default/files/images/u33/finalBoulderPresentation042611%20(1).pdf

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The sun is certainly emitting some pretty dangerous storms of late, might be wise to build a faraday cage.

@earthsky

2 ай бұрын

The sun isn’t doing anything now it hasn’t been doing for all of human history.

@deemisquadis9437

2 ай бұрын

This is our solar system evolution event, and pole shift, cycle 25. This is huge, this has never happened before in our history.

What about the pole flip? We know solar flares and a pole flip are completely different events.

FYI - Redacted on KZread just posted a great video titled “This confirms the power grid will collapse and no one is ready” regarding how much trouble our power grid is in based on recent federal policy changes. “The Biden Administration just rolled out new rules at the EPA which will cause a total collapse of the U.S. power grid with 100% certainty. And no one is paying attention to this crisis.” And this doesn’t take into consideration the geomagnetic, weather, or cyber concerns.

@earthsky

2 ай бұрын

Let's ask ourselves WHY the Biden administration would implement those new rules. If this is true, why? Because they just don't like us, or what?

@amjisaac

2 ай бұрын

Suggestions to “why” are explained when you watch the KZread video from “Redacted” with Clayton and Natali Morris. As a disabled military Veteran, I know for a fact that the administration (regardless of party) is capable of anything that furthers an agenda, even at the detriment of its people. Desert Shield/Storm; EPA during 9/11; Gulf of Tonkin; Anthrax and COVID vaccinations; MK Ultra/LSD Experiment; Tuskegee Syphilis Experiment; Operations Paperclip, Mockingbird, and Northwoods; Project Sunshine; and the poisoning of alcohol during Prohibition are just a few documented examples from the top of my head of events knowingly wrong and yet enacted by government entities. Not because they hate us, they just love their ideology more.

The Carrington Event happened in the 19th Century, not the 17th Century.

@earthsky

2 ай бұрын

Hi @frankfarmlett3829. We didn't say the Carrington Event happened in the 17th century. We said one of our commenters here on KZread - on another video we offered about solar flares - said this: "I hope it knocks us back into the 17th century. I've been prepping for years and nothing happens. I welcome shtf." That comment inspired us to do THIS video. You can see that comment here: kzread.info/dash/bejne/qqat0tOFh8isftI.html

Our solar system evolution event is happening right now.

@earthsky

2 ай бұрын

Of course. In nature, everything is constantly evolving ...

Sorry but a strong X class flare will melt computers and chut down a lot of what we rely on

@earthsky

2 ай бұрын

This whole video is about why that won't happen,

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…And what about the most important factor: that Earth’s magnetic field is significantly weakening (Auroras visible reach as proof)… Hmmm…Isn’t it Technology that is most vulnerable to be impacted first? And what exactly is ‘the warning system’ in place because the Sun/Solar Storm impact has not EVER been apart of public discussion until now?

@earthsky

2 ай бұрын

Hi @Sweet-Aloha. Did you notice I asked a question of yours about NASA's fleet of solar spacecraft - the warning system - on another video? kzread.info/dash/bejne/qqat0tOFh8isftI.html And in that video solar physicist C. Alex Young says that there IS a warning system in place, but it's used mostly industries such as the electrical power industry. It doesn't filter out to the public as readily. But there are websites that do keep you updated on what's happening on the sun. EarthSky's daily sun news post is here: earthsky.org/sun/sun-news-activity-solar-flare-cme-aurora-updates/ We also post a KZread Short on what's happening on the sun, nearly every day.

@earthsky

2 ай бұрын

Oh and I wanted to mention your question about Earth's magnetic field as well. Weakening, yes. But not SIGNIFICANTLY weakening. And no auroras being visible are not proof. I couldn't ask David Wallace about the magnetic field, because he's an electrical engineer, not a magnetic field expert. But we'll have a magnetic expert on soon. Watch for that!

@earthsky

2 ай бұрын

@Sweet-Aloha, it occurred to me that you might want to look at this page, from NOAA's Space Weather Prediction Center. It is a major part of the spaceweather warning system, used by North American electric grids: www.swpc.noaa.gov/

@j.jester7821

3 күн бұрын

visible auroras are not proof at all that the magnetic field is weakening. In fact, less magnetic field would result in less visible auroras, not more.

@j.jester7821

3 күн бұрын

​@@earthsky no qualified evidence the magnetic field is "weakening". infact the flux is normal.

David didn't really get into the details of how the electrical grid is protected. Is the entire grid protected now and more importantly... are replacement parts readily available waiting in storage just in case? I'm sure some of these "parts" are very expensive such as gigantic transformers and the like. I can't imagine parts are readily available and waiting when the need arises... but it is good to know we have some protection.

@earthsky

2 ай бұрын

That's a very good question. And the answer likely differs from place to place, country to country, and electric grid to electric grid. David was part of the PES Transformer Committee. The committee describes itself this way: "The Transformers Committee is one of the largest and most active of the 17 technical committees within the IEEE Power and Energy Society (PES). The Committee is comprised of technical and managerial representatives from manufacturers, consultants, vendors and end users of electrical transformers and components. The continuing scope of the Committee is to develop and update standards and guidelines for the design, testing, repair, installation, operation and maintenance of transformers, reactors and associated components that are used within electric utility and industrial power systems." So this committee IS linked into the community of power grids in the U.S. And there's a comparable group in Europe. And as David said, for the past few decades (since the Carrington Event entered the public consciousness, at least) there's been a WORLDWIDE push to figure out how to protect electric grids from geomagnetic storms. But I can imagine that some of the poorer countries would, as usual, have a tougher time keeping the stocks on hand for restoring their power grids, should those grids fail in a geomagnetic storm. As always, the poorer countries would likely suffer most, in a big storm. Here in the U.S., I suspect we'll be fine. As David said, "getting safer all the time. We're on the right path."

I still wonder if we could take a direct hit like if we were in direct line of the blast.

@earthsky

2 ай бұрын

We definitely could take a direct hit and sometimes DO take a direct hit. But we know in advance it's coming and are able to "shed load" on the electrical transformers in advance, to keep them from becoming overloaded and thereby failing.

@davidanfinrud3438

2 ай бұрын

I do not think we could take a Carrington type direct hit today. Back then the Magnetic field was stronger than today and all they had was the Telegraph system. Which in some areas. Caused fires in the offices. Caused Melting of some of the telegraph Wires. But more so. What we saw last hit was minor and x3 maybe x4 compared to a Carrington at estimated x80. Plus people were reading the newspaper at 1 AM because it was so bright outside. I doubt any warning will be taken seriously and people will demand power to be available. Do you think you can shutdown the entire Energy grid With only under an hour warning. No the effects will be felt and areas will be without power until repairs are made. Our technology is to sensitive to outside forces where individual components start failing. Blow some small capacitors may take days to fix or even find all the things burned by excessive energy. Can you solder without electricity and replace components damaged in the dark?

@earthsky

2 ай бұрын

@@davidanfinrud3438 You're wrong. Of course, warnings will be taken seriously! And of course people in the power industry have worked over the past few decades, since the story of the Carrington Event began to be widely publicized, to protect us from solar storms. Many people DO spend their lives trying to work for the benefit of others, you know.

@davidanfinrud3438

2 ай бұрын

@@earthsky I do not think the warning will be fast enough. Or early Enough. We have seen solar flares yet the speed of arrival depends on the strength of the flare. The video was wrong the Carrington Event was an X80 though our scale currently is set for only x5. Even with equipment shutdown There are components in any electronic circuit control that could be affected and damaged. Nothing is perfectly shielded. And I said any aging components could be damaged from the electrical effects as they induce some power even in equipment shutdown. What do you think happens if lighting hits Electrical Equipment. This would be like a lightening strike. Now if it lasted a few minutes no problem. What if it lasted for several Hours. More time more chance of issues. Do not want to think about the idea that the Flare magnetic field could collapse our earths Magnetic field below the ionosphere level. That would increase the Problem many time greater.

@earthsky

2 ай бұрын

@@davidanfinrud3438 so you're saying that your expertise on this subject is greater than that of the electrical engineers who have been working on this for decades, via the PES Transformers Committee, which is charged with developing standards for the electrical power industry? You're saying there's some dark secret there ... that these men and women are HIDING THE TRUTH from us? Yes, there might be outages. But not civilization-ending outages. Just "disturbances and inconveniences," as David Wallace said in this video.

This guy is very wrong. Believe him at your own risk.

@earthsky

2 ай бұрын

Haha! Okay. I will.