Thanks Neil, I took delivery of my Kubota L2502 a couple of months ago. Among the jobs I want it to do is to move 900# round bales for feeding my horses. Your video confirms it will work. I do not have to lift them nearly as high as you lifted the pallet of bailing twine. I just have a short trip on level ground and place the bale into a feeder. You do a service to EVERY Kubota dealer in the country, Thank you, from a Kubota owner from Montana.

Thanks Neil for reinforcing how to use your Kubota loader safely for the average tractor owner. Good job 👍

I have one of the "other orange tractors" and it has been awesome, and being my first tractor, I learned a lot from your earlier videos, Neil; so thank you! As a note you might mention to folks, maybe in another video on this subject: watch any changes in incline when you're lifting heavy, or you can do a twisting tip-over. I've had a few close calls, and if i wasn't being slow and easy, it might've gone badly!

A lot of people don't know the model # of a Kubota loader is the weight it can lift at the pin in kilograms. 526kg = 1159lbs

@oakiewoodsman

Ай бұрын

Brad, I did not know that myself! Thank you for this information. I had been tractor shopping a couple years ago and kept driving by my local Kubota Dealer because the lift capacity seemed so much lower on the L series tractor. I did not like most other machines because you cannot curl and lift at the same time but the lift was a deal breaker. This video and your information helped me out quite a bit friend. Thank you.

@Lumber_Jack

Ай бұрын

Yep, it's a good quick way to understand the capacity. And the next most important thing is knowing the rated height and understanding the lift curve in the owner's manual, so that you have an idea how the capacity varies with height. Often times, Kubota loaders go 10-12" higher than other brands, so you need to factor that in to compare apples to apples.

@oakiewoodsman

Ай бұрын

@@Lumber_Jack I did not know that either. Thank you!

Sure appreciate all that you do for us Niel. Thank you.

Very nice demonstration Neil. I always enjoy and gain knowledge from your videos.Thanks

Excellent demonstration!

Very helpful, I had a few things right and learned a few things for my BX.

Great demo, Neill!!!👍 I've been beyond impressed with the capacity of my L2501. I have lifted 8 to 10 foot logs that are in the range of 1300 to 1600 pounds, with pallet forks fully rolled back with no difficulty at all. You can't argue with physics!!!!

Great overview of lifting!

Neil wonderful video. Through trial and error I found when I had to move something heavy( only ounce) that i couldn't lift it. But if I dumped my forks a little and lifted the back I could roll the forks back and get off the ground a couple inches and move it. I don't recommend it but it worked. Next time I will have the appropriate equipment. Also Neil I would like to thank you for your videos. Things that you have shown have made operating my tractor and hooking up to attachments much easier. Have a wonderful week

I grew up on a farm and have to agree on bailer twine being handy to have around. I also think that having electric fence wire was pretty handy as well. Lots of farmers used it to keep their implements stuck together after breaking them out in the field. Farmers were jack of all trades, they had to be able to fix stuff themselves until they could get to a real mechanic.

Nice demo! One thing people don't consider is driving/ operating with max weight

Just proves the point, Geometry can be our friend or 'less than convenient'. Good-O on touching the point that ANYTHING forward of the pivot point prior to the lift IS dead weight. I have bucket mounted forks for lifting and yes, I wish I could eliminate the bucket weight. Maybe someday...

May take a little research, but A video I would like to see is about Air pressure front to back and how that affects 4 WD gear ratio, as well as left to right and why that is important to keep an eye on. Example, I lowered the air pressure my rear tires to help with traction on my R4's to maybe 25psi but the fronts have 40psi and I notice resistance now as if the front to back axles aren't matched up like they would be at stock pressure front and back. Could be an interesting and over looked subject to look into for your viewers.

Good demo

And for those who have to lift alot: there are wheel loaders, Kubota makes them too. A 200-series (called so at least here in Europe) with AG-tyres is not a bad alternative. High lifting capacity, comfortable cabs, hydraulics front and possibly back and so on.... We use more small loaders instead of compact tractors, but that's just us 😜.

Great video Neil! You made a point of mentioning the front tires and the effect of additional pressure due to the load, what about the front axles? They do the work of supporting that load and having to turn the tractor and travel with that load. Aren’t they being over stressed?

From a mechanical leverage perspective, as the loader is raised the loader arm lift cylinders move closer to the loader arms versus when the arms are near the ground. The larger the distance between them increases the mechanical advantage of the applied force to rotate the boom around the arm pivot pin. So what lifts easier near the ground becomes more difficult as you raise it. The arc of rotation moves the load further forward as you lift, meaning you require greater ballast as you lift compared to when it is just off the ground. So a ballast that allows you just to get something off the ground and be stable, will not be enough as you raise it further and the load moves outward.

The lift capacity of the rear three point hitch on my BX23 is much more than that of the loader. My loader is rated at about 650 lbs. but the rear hitch will easily lift 900+ lbs( Cardboard Gaylord box with 1/4 cord of hardwood firewood). So I do a lift of heavy lifting and moving going backwards.

Good Demo! What is the load capacity of the front axel? Is it possible to ever crack the axel if you consistently carry bouncing loads over rough ground?

Hey Neil, you should give that pallet a go with the lx2610 or 2620

Lift capacity is just a guide line. Trust me you’ll figure out how much your equipment can really lift when you start getting comfortable with it.

Miss the bloopers at the end. Or are you getting more polished and professional? I always enjoy the videos. Thanks, take care all

@MessicksEquip

Ай бұрын

When I have a solid idea where I'm going, I don't bumble around as much.

22.5 pounds per roll equals 10 kilograms almost exactly 48 x 10 kg = 480 kg. The rough capacity of the loader is in the model number of 526. Let’s say 520 kg Tough lift with an attachment such as heavy fork set.

Can you compare 75hp CTL Kubota and New Holland?

My John Deere 3038E is rated for a little more weight than that Kubota but I don’t believe it would have lifted that. You should get your hands on one of those tractors to lift the same weight. That would be a major selling point for a Kubota, if it would outlift a JD 3038e…

@F150customs

Ай бұрын

I believe in an old video he explains how JD and other companies spike their numbers by using different lift points. He actually provides proof using the JD in a real life scenario. If it wasn’t here it was on Goodworks tractors

@Matt-mq1ep

Ай бұрын

My buddy bought a 3038E and my L3240 will make a joke out of it.

@paullambert2668

Ай бұрын

@@Matt-mq1ep L3240 is a grand L. That's quite a bit more capable machine, no real surprise there.

Great video Niel. When we were putting in some boulders in our landscaping I tied straps around the cylinder that spans between the arms of the loader to get the weight as far back as possible. (Big loaded on 4760) What I want to know is: how dumb was that? Is that thing able to take a load like that? It didn't get damaged at least not noticeably. Thanks! -Stuart

@MessicksEquip

Ай бұрын

Not dumb. You should not damage the torque tube like that.

@Version135

Ай бұрын

Thanks ! ​@@MessicksEquip

The small tractor lifting that weight is fine . Two concerns: a) what is the load capacity of the front axle and frame of the tractor and b) the backhoe is a very heavy counter weight and along way back; perhaps wheel ballast and a tiller or mower is more realistic as a ballast.

@MessicksEquip

Ай бұрын

you would probably like this video. kzread.info/dash/bejne/e6eO2pWbhrTNipM.html

@bighat7265

Ай бұрын

@@MessicksEquip I enjoyed the video. I just think that you were pushing the limit of the L2502 tractor.

@paullambert2668

Ай бұрын

@@bighat7265 That's kind of the point of the video isn't it?

One thing I have been wondering lately: what size loader does it take to pick up "ecology blocks"? An in addition to "could it pick it up 6 inchs to be able to move it?" also "could I stack them 2 high? 3 high?" and "could I unload it from the truck". The 2x2x6 ones weigh 3500lbs! So maybe it's not even possible and you need a specialized crane...

@MessicksEquip

Ай бұрын

you'd want a large compact track loader for that.

May-be you should have show more about the droping down that is where the danger is !

@sarjxxx

Ай бұрын

Yep, definitely want to throttle down before lowering!

Can someone tell me on the Kubota line what loader I need to get that has self leveling. As well as dual action meaning, it will raise and roll back at the same time?

@wildbill23c

Ай бұрын

My BX2680 can raise and roll back at the same time, I think all the Kubota loaders can do that...as far as self leveling I think that option starts in the LX models if I'm not mistaken, I don't think the B-series has that, and I know the BX series does not.

@MessicksEquip

Ай бұрын

Self leveling is either a kit or valve on most models. All have duel action.

@cliffh8486

Ай бұрын

@@MessicksEquip thanks! I haven’t seen that on the Kubota web site

Did you take the weight of the forks into the equation?

Don't do it, I bent my loader-mount just a hair & it's noticeable when digging shallow. I was putting logs behind the bucket of a BX but I think I bent/or-bought-used it playing with stumps.

Are those tires larger than what normally come on them?

@MessicksEquip

Ай бұрын

Nope. Standard

I've owned multiple kubota tractors everything from 30hp to the M5-111 im on my fourth kubota wheel loader now I live in Ontario Canada they tell us what ever the number is on the loader that's what it should lift in kilos I'm curious how you say it's an 800lbs lift capacity but in theory it should lift 1150 lbs no problem at least that's how they sell there tractors here where I live I haven't had a kubota tractor that can lift what it says that's why I jumped to the construction line up more money but cheaper then other colors but you also get what you pay for my opinion

@tylermacconnell217

Ай бұрын

If you watched the video, he stated the rated lift capacity is “at the pivot pins” which is where the bucket or forks attach. At 500mm forward of the pins, it drops to +/- 800lbs. Keep in mind the weight of the bucket or forks also count as lifted weight. Some machines perform better than their ratings while others will just barely do it. The longer the reach of the loader or the higher the lift height, the less it will lift.

@MessicksEquip

Ай бұрын

The model number trick is at the pivot pin, not bucket center. that did change, years ago it was in the bucket.

Kubota does under rate and over produce on it’s capacity 💯

If you know any farmers or horse people, they always have lots of used twine.

What about the brakes. If you’re going downhill with that load?

😲😱. 😬

Why don't you call them rolls of twine instead of balls of twine?

It’s just such a large footprint with tractors in order to be able to lift anything meaningful. My MT100 would lift that same pallet no problem.

good way to break your legs. your fired