I think it would be great if content creators didn't spend money to push to 1620 to highlight the problem with progression. If almost nobody did the content after release i'm sure we would get multiple honing buffs.

@RedWill42

10 ай бұрын

Or you get creators that log in, take a 1 million gold loan and then spend 30,000 RC on shop honing boxes while telling you honing isn't so bad lol.

@Jimminia8D

10 ай бұрын

My guy was talking about how crazy the mats are to push. 😅 still got 2 months before voldik. He can save everything from here on out & mb have enough.

Brother.. when can I get on your casting couch?? xD For real though, RE, Scrappa, and WD looking INSANELY fun. Can't wait to hone my DB up a bit and get her new acc's. Gonna be making a WD as well. I'm coming to your stream now... see you soon xD

Unless you have 4+ 1580 funneling into your mains honing the current amount of leapstones you get from dailies would be impossible to reach 1620 on launch date.

@arifhaz

10 ай бұрын

you sell your leapstone now, buy later

@Hey_Im_JJ

10 ай бұрын

That’s probably because you stopped honing for “efficiency” like I did. Like a lot of people did. The people who didn’t listen to KR and streamers and just kept honing are doing just fine.

Ive been buying fish, selling, crafting orehas for almost a year now. The pattern i see with fish prices lately is that its determined by the profitability of crafting and selling orehas.

The fish had got down from 400 to gradualy 380 -300 in 1 week later on 250 1 week after that and then it just got down into 150-90 current situation since almost 1month and half

Fishing has been dropping in price for over a month; it dropped very fast from 220 to 100g in NAEST and it was 400g at start of akkan Patch.

im going full copium aqnd not honing until the patch that brings HM voldick in case they sneak in a honing buff. If im wrong... its whatevs

If anyone in here can help me out with this; I don't know where Tai is getting more damage in the PTR. I feel like I'm not reading a line or something. I saw less damage from the engraving, I saw iron cannon getting it's cooldown reduction removed and instead does a bit more damage. I saw they're removing the stepping on them move (earthquake chain) for another move. The new identity seems completely worthless to Tai. And I saw battering fists lose damage. From what I understand, they just changed how she's gonna feel and might make her CD misalign more losing the 7 second tripod on iron cannon blow. So what is it that I'm missing? Thanks if anyone does know what I'm missing.

@ryanc9876

10 ай бұрын

I guess I missed all the tripod "buffs" to damage for all the things they nerfed base damage for. I still have my concerns about the smoothness of play but maybe it's smoother at end-end-end game but not as smooth early on anymore.

I'm working on a juiced 1620 main. I need 2 more akkan amror pieces to +18 then it's all about pushing weapon from +22 to +25

Bro gettin yo 1580 is hard hahah

Wait is the frog 1600 or 1610? My plan was 2 x Voldis hard 4 x Volids normal with my normal characters parked at 1602.5 (1600 armors, 1615 weapon) but I'm seeing people talk about 1610 for the new guardian. I know the new chaos dungeon and cube is 1610 so I guess that would stand to reason the new guardian is 1610 as well.

@St3vieStv

10 ай бұрын

your roster is likely one percent of the one percent. I don't think many, if any, have the same questions as you.

@dexdervinzippo

10 ай бұрын

Yes frog is 1610

The problem is quickly becoming not can I make it, but do I even care enough any more to put the effort in. A lot of us launch day players are really feeling the burn out here. Very few players will get to 1620 naturally, and buying 30k RC worth of honing boxes every shop refresh (which is basically $450) to many is simply not worth it. Those that do get to 1620 likely have static parties or will be looking for a static party since PF will not have the supports to get many runs off the ground. Nobody will be pushing a Main + Support alt to 1620 anytime soon and support mains themselves ain't pugging. A lot of our current content Supports are alts, we learned a year ago a 6x DPS roster is hard to work with, having 2-3 supports makes run swapping easier and helps keep parties going. There is absolutely no chance my 1580 supports are going to 1620. Maybe 1600 from Akkan upgrades and free taps at best. So this next push decimates the supports who are not mains, will make it so PF is absolutely dead at 1620 and quite honestly, the grind has become so god awful it begs the question of why even continue to try and keep up anymore. They've made reaching the current content more difficult and time consuming than the content itself, and it's going to kill the game.

@kyle784

10 ай бұрын

I feel like they no longer feel confident in the games future and want to milk current players as much as possible. There's no reason honing has to be such an insane jump every raid. Where's the 1590, 1595, 1605, 1615 raids? raids used to be 2 steps away for Valtan and Vykas, Brel was a massive mistake, but then Akkan is 3 steps NM-Hard and Vold/Thaemine are 4 steps away. The cost of pity(guaranteed honing) is 5.7 mill gold from 1580-1620(not including shards) on NAW. So I'm parking at 1580 on all chars and waiting for changes.

@Oboro911

10 ай бұрын

You buy mats g2g lmfao

Hopefully the november update juices us up with souleater. Otherwise HM voldice will be deadge

The struggle to 1620 painn

I am just aimin for a +19 set on my main aka 1620 then hone alts to 1580 (currently sitting at 1560)

whens the next hyper express pass to 1580?

@rolandbogdan5274

10 ай бұрын

next hyper express is most likely november 15th, but it is not confirmed how far it will take you

brooooo this shelf is not having it

i dont understand why tai is getting so much hate, current tai is fun, chill, tanky and has decent damage and great utility, it seems like everyone wanted the rework to make her a different class completely and make her super op like RE

@inventedbaton958

10 ай бұрын

Prob bc of how the z skill works for her, it is a pretty lame effect that will more often than not feel like it’s not there for tai

It's funny for me that some people love clown !! I HATE clown , i never done more that g2 and after you can upgrade from lvl1 to lvl3 i never finished clown .

@seriouSamx

10 ай бұрын

Clown is just a ton of fun with a static. And on farm G1-3 takes 15 min for my main so it’s easy. I could def see how it would suck pugging tho.

@francisryangonzales6201

10 ай бұрын

Clown is the fastest raid you can finish.

I am about to pity my last piece to 1600 for my main and then he will sit until Voidike (my actual goal is 1610 for new guardian). Then just get my top 4 mains (I gave up on 6 for Akkan) to be at 1600 to do new content.

Windfury slappppppsss

@Ap3xKingOW

10 ай бұрын

Plz try it in chaos with betrail

Honestly, can't be bothered to hone my main to 1600, cause I have to rebuild 2 classes, and save for Soul Eater. I wasted 400k gold trying to cut a 7-7 stone, so most of that is gone... My qualities on my main 6 is mostly all salad, and can't be bothered tapping it if it gets the job done. Getting gems as well is a bitch when you want to hone several characters even to 1580 ( I have 2 ), which is way too expensive while there are other things to spend on. At the moment I can't even be bothered to hone my alts to 1580 cause I wouldn't have anything for Soul Eater, depending on which express we even get, I may need way more.

@emich34

10 ай бұрын

why would you waste that money on a 7/7 stone..... for that amount of money just get the legendary books and use a 5/7 stone or something

@DeViL11019

10 ай бұрын

@@emich34 I was hoping I wouldn't have to tell anyone, that cutting stones is a scam, and you can get unlucky. I was rebuilding my wardancer cause I have 4 spender entropy build on it and PTR changes made it dead.

@oisquid3482

10 ай бұрын

​@DeViL11019 you cut an ambush rock?

@DeViL11019

10 ай бұрын

@@oisquid3482 Before that yes, at that time ambush accs were quite expensive compared. Was around new year's time or smth.

@emich34

10 ай бұрын

@@DeViL11019 its only a scam if you try and do it just cut like 5 or so stones pick the best one and use that...

buy feesh😎

pov: voldis in 3 month already 1610 money spent 0

1st OOOOOO

dude speaking like a bullet train