If you enjoyed the video and you'd like to support my work, here are a few ways: - *Patreon*: www.patreon.com/foolishfish - *PAYPAL One-off donation*: paypal.me/foolishfish - *Super Thanks *- click on the heart with a dollar symbol under the video to leave a tip! - *Book a Video Chat with Foolish Fish*: foolishfish.simplybook.it/ - *YT Memberships*: kzread.info/dron/VtWVX2xirq6Nybf5bumqwg.htmljoin - *Visit my inventory and order from the amazon associate links*: docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1QKMxEeptfo-A62LrLNa9WkM2TkvigAzChKBcG1sU5Hg/edit?usp=sharing - *ETH wallet*: 0x64a4c581634d5ec16b02caec2224d1db42914f60 All Foolish Fish Patreons and Members get to watch Esoteric Saturday videos one week early without advertisements, get to chat on the FF Discord server, and get to watch my FF News videos a day early, among many other perks :)

@Kvurim

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you, very interesting work.

@finnmatteo8763

2 жыл бұрын

i guess it is quite randomly asking but do anybody know a good place to watch newly released series online ?

@azariahivan3939

2 жыл бұрын

@Finn Matteo Flixportal xD

@finnmatteo8763

2 жыл бұрын

@Azariah Ivan thank you, I signed up and it seems like they got a lot of movies there :D I appreciate it !!

@azariahivan3939

2 жыл бұрын

@Finn Matteo glad I could help :D

Dude I feel like crying. I am 30 years old, lifelong christian, and feeling finally like another believer is sharing how I feel. Thank you for this video. It's helpful for me for sure.

@brettharter143

7 ай бұрын

Check out John St Julien, he is a christian and white magician (altho he would never call himself that). He runs a childrens home in Tanzania and has manifested alot of good things

@ricardodiazdeleon134

4 ай бұрын

You're not a Christian if you don't trust God and resort to spirits that are dead (aka not in heaven) or evil (demons). The quotes used in this video from the bible are completely taken out of context. Terrible (and probably deliberate) exegesis.

@user-ky8ym7le9m

3 ай бұрын

@@ricardodiazdeleon134 is using your friend for help or doctor not trusting in God? Also how & why is using angels & demons bad

Hey, thanks so much for making this video. I am the daughter of a Southern Baptist preacher. I used to highly cling to the religion I was taught, until I moved halfway across the world to live on my own. That opened me up to question what I'd been taught, but I was still afraid to do so, lest I go to hell. It took 1.5 yrs of therapy before I could even express doubt about my religious beliefs, and the first time I uttered it aloud, my throat clamped down and began spasming. My therapist had to run get me water and it took 20 mins for me to be able to speak again. That's how engrained it was. But after that, I began to explore. The Christian God never responded to me. But with regular meditation, it didn't take long for something else to begin responding to me. To the point it was undeniable. Less than a year later, my energetic awareness popped off spontaneously and allll the entities came to say sup. But I still struggled with fear because I'd been taught every entity free roaming the earth was a demon. And I for sure encountered some demons, but also many good and helpful entities. Anyway, point is I've been energetically aware for 2 years but only started practicing the lbrp 3 weeks ago. Despite how profoundly better I felt, the symbolism and occult aspect would cause my ego to slip in words like "you're gonna go to hell for this. You're probably summoning demons rn. They're gonna trick you and drag you to hell." But your video has helped. Most people who practice Magick/occult dislike Christians. It's nice to hear a perspective from someone who... Doesn't.

@Voxvespera

3 ай бұрын

Keep going!

Almost everyone probably practices magic regularly. It's just that most are unaware they are stuck in a long term mass societal spell that's not of their own making. Pawns in the game.

@TheAmethystSpirit

3 жыл бұрын

Yes, if you make a wish and blow out birthday candles....OOPS You're doing magick 😆

@gmw3083

3 жыл бұрын

Definitely, but that's a sort of minor magic that's approved of and sanctioned by society. I wonder if anyone ever had any of those wishes come true. I pretty much gave up on that when I realized Santa and the Easter bunny were fake. A really long time ago. The most obvious hidden spells are hiding in plain sight, right in the language. Hell-O; used billions of times daily. There's tons more where that came from. Far more underhanded. Mass mind control works. But perception is everything. Heaven and hell are always available.

@TheAmethystSpirit

3 жыл бұрын

I do love learning about the spells right in our language. I had not ever thought about it before but there are many. Spell-ing

@pedroupaiva

3 жыл бұрын

@@TheAmethystSpirit excuse me but would you mind telling me where could I learn more about that? I don't even know what to search but I'm interested! (just a yt video would be more than enough!)

@gmw3083

3 жыл бұрын

@@pedroupaiva Put this in the search bar.... etymology of english magic Tons of videos come up. I'm not sure I've seen any of them. I did notice Lifting the Veil in there a couple times and the 'Great Arcanum'. Those should be pretty good.

Damn, Jesus was kind of a badass. I guess that's what Nietzsche meant when he said "there was only one Christian, he died on the cross."

@FoolishFishBooks

3 жыл бұрын

That was my conclusion when I read the 4 gospels and I was like "wait... this ain't the Jesus I've been told about!" XD

@wigsy9386

3 жыл бұрын

I think he may have been one badass magician and they found his powers to be unsettling hence the cross. It's possible

@reyskully7778

3 жыл бұрын

@@wigsy9386 he was killed not for magick all though many times the Pharisees compared him to a devil. They said something like “only devils can tell devils what to do and they listen “ but Jesus was killed for saying he was the son of god which means he was saying he and god were one and the same.

@wigsy9386

3 жыл бұрын

@@reyskully7778 So in ways he was seen as the demiurge, only the demiurge would feel that his evil would be good and only seen as evil to those that don't understand him. It's an interesting subject and thought process for me.

@reyskully7778

3 жыл бұрын

@@wigsy9386 Jesus in my opinion is so much more than a man, the body everyone equated to as Jesus was just his flesh and he identify with his flesh in the same way if u burned ur tee shirt.. u wouldn’t think by burning ur shirt that I was harming u. Jesus identified himself with the source and was killed for it and he was killed by the people who claimed to be in contact with the source… people were routinely kept out of the temple because of fleshly issues and the contents of their hearts were ignored. All they did was kill the flesh of Jesus and in so he never truly died. I believe this is the meaning of the idea that Jesus resurrected. Even the Bible never explained what the disciples saw when Jesus came to them but he didn’t let them touch him because I believe he had no form to touch but the disciples identified the flesh of Jesus with the source itself so when the source began to interact with them they saw it as Jesus himself… it’s a beautiful topic to discuss and I’d love to discuss it more with others if they wish to as well 💪💪

Hell Is Empty, and all the Devils are here! - William Shakespeare said it best!

I believe that magick, at it's most basic level, is neutral. It is what each practitioner does with it in intent and action that determines the type of results wielded from it and the path that you go down. For me personally, hell is simply the unacknowledged path of the firestarter. If you throw enough matches around (war, looking down on others, curses, greed, hatred, gossip, etc...), eventually you end up setting yourself on fire. I think the golden rule was actually a veiled warning. "Do unto others as you would like them to do unto you" could have ended with "...or you end up in a hell of your own creation". Oddly enough, the more that I tuned into what Jesus said, the less the church resonated with me. So I chose to follow the teachings of Jesus and left the church.

@janndoe3718

3 жыл бұрын

Well said.

@hedgebeast8930

3 жыл бұрын

@@janndoe3718 Was thinking the same!

@foxy1984tl

3 жыл бұрын

What the heck is a firestarter? I think someones been listening to a bit too much Prodigy lately XD

@brighteyes6585

2 жыл бұрын

Good insight, I thought that too. But I'm also universalist and follow Christ. 🙂 Was looking up Firestarter, interesting... 🦀

@kylehutchinson5016

2 жыл бұрын

Sure you do. And I guess you particularly follow His teaching about not practicing the magic arts (Revelation 22:15), which if you do, Jesus warns, will result in eternal damnation.

I am a philosopher, an ocultist and I am a Christian by my True self and my background and I can tell you than I rarely seen such a wise explanation about the spiritual realms of the world. You are truly a wise person. I love you ❤️ and appreciate you a lot for your enlightenment on the true spiritual path. Only the TRUE will make us free in spirit!

I love this so much. I have been terrified but it's like the universe is shoving me toward magic. I appreciate you making a video that really helps me understand. Thank you 😊

@integralgamings2537

2 жыл бұрын

Same. I stopped looking into it completely at one point. But time and time again I find myself randomly getting back into it.

@lijahwilkins4099

2 жыл бұрын

I feel the same way

I'm loving your teaching! I've served as a Christian pastor for a little more than 8 years now-everything you say in this video accords with my understanding of the faith. Great job! I look forward to learning more from you. Thanks! :)

@mistawess

3 жыл бұрын

Are you still practicing Christianity? And why?

@reyskully7778

3 жыл бұрын

I wonder how many pastors understand Christianity in this light and say nothing directly due to the dark age ideals most common Christians hold.

@squarepeg418

3 жыл бұрын

Sir, are you a Freemason?

@dustinbower710

3 жыл бұрын

@@mistawess Practicing Jesus' way? Yes, as I understand it. My religious study and practice enrich my life and, by nearly all reports, the lives of those with whom I share community. However, I'm exploring spiritual terrain well beyond the boundaries of what many other Christians would deem acceptable. James Hollis is a Jungian Psychologist who talks about the psychic strength necessary to hold in creative tension ambiguity, ambivalence, and anxiety. Most Christians and traditional religionists of all stripes value religion precisely because it relieves them of these things. I believe Jesus' living faith, insight, inspiration, and power had their source in such incomprehensible Mystery. I know not her name. I know not that she is my mother or what that means. I know not that this is her breast, and from it, comes milk, or that this is my mouth and with it, I suckle, or the significance of any of that. I do not know how or why this contact and interaction between these various objects satisfies or drives me to such satisfaction. I only give myself to the impulse to cry, the impulse to latch on, the impulse to suck. And miracle of miracles, my soul is deeply nourished, and I thrive. I rarely meet another person, especially among more traditional Christians, who can find rest nursing at God's breast in infantile silence and peace. Most demand answers. Most demand a clear distinction of categories. Most demand clear direction. Most demand assurance of absolute, unending pleasure or the total absence of pain as compensation for the insults, injuries, and injustices suffered in this life. I'm not most, and I feel that quite acutely. But I'm in love with the Mystery. I believe that Paraclete has yet to empty Her milk supply. And I'm still hungry and still quite small. I can't even speak a word of my Mother's language, though I've listened to Her voice all my life. I just babble with the rest of the babies. And cry when my belly feels less than full. "If we are 'out of our mind,' as some say, it is for God; if we are in our right mind, it is for you." ;)

@dustinbower710

3 жыл бұрын

@@reyskully7778 Being friends and colleagues with several other pastors, I assure you that if we are legion, I got separated from the group. But I also can attest that many pastors are presented information in school that they never talk about from the pulpit. Some of that is because they only learned it to get the grade. But it didn't accord with the framework they developed as younger people, so they discarded it immediately. For others, it takes so much informational scaffolding for a layperson to even glimpse some of this stuff that preachers can teach on it effectively in 20 minutes once a week and still satisfy the preaching expectations of the general churchgoing. Yeah, honestly, you said it quite nicely: "...due to the dark age ideals most common Christians hold." Helping Christians unlearn those "dark age ideals" is more effectively done individually, slowly, over many conversations, over a long period of time. And even them, that embedded Sunday school theology has ridiculous staying power.

Cheers to fellow introverts that seek the spirit of the law over the letter and the capacity of discernment to know when they are aligned. The wrap up was the best, "Be kind to others, they may not have had the privilege of an indoctrination free life." That is awesome.

Wow!! I absolutely love this! I’m a Christian I also love Magic and focusing on an enchanting lifestyle. Your channel is a wonderful blessing to me. Thank you. I’ve enjoyed your insight so much.

@FoolishFishBooks

2 жыл бұрын

Just FYI, I'm reading "Soul Journeys" by Daniel L. Prechtel et al. and as a magick-loving Christian, you might like it too :) about what Christianity and Shamanism can learn from each other.

This is a phenomenal example of what Christianity could be in the world

the Bible is FULL OF MAGIC 🪄 and I love it 🖤🤍🙏🏽 High Priests practiced “the craft” and divination and were ordained to do so. Heaven/Hell is a mindset and a projection of ones inner state

@Charlesmclark2

11 ай бұрын

Exactly Psalms is the most powerful spellbook ever written😂

I have only prayed a few times, when I was very much younger, and my prayers were answered. My father told me to pray to the tooth fairy when I was about 6, as my baby teeth were falling out. My prayers were always answered with a tenpenny piece under my pillow. So I'm a true believer in prayer. I'm also now a dentist.

I was raised fundamentalist Christian, so watching this definitely did give me some anxiety. I walked away years ago but the trauma definitely remains. I have no idea what the "correct" interpretation of the Bible is, but your Christianity seems to be empowering and healthy so I have no issue with you. This has been a profoundly difficult year for me, and I suppose I'm in the middle of what is termed a "mental breakdown." I inherited mental health issues from both parents and my Christian upbringing interacted with those issues in very bad ways. Your views on heaven and hell are very interesting. I try to treat myself and others well, but because of my mental state my inner life is more in line with the hell you describe. I hope I don't travel to that space when I die, but rather a place where I can be me without being filtered through my brain and my life experiences. I've thought about practicing the LBRP as a way of striving for some peace, but I just can't handle the possibility of my life being turned upside down even more which is apparently a possible initial outcome of performing that ritual. If Christianity does survive I hope it evolves into something empowering rather than something that breaks people down. Thank you for the thoughtful video. :)

@FoolishFishBooks

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you, Cody, for your thoughtful comment. I'm so sorry you've been struggling, I know that many people who have managed to pull away from unhealthy forms of any religion struggle in the same way with residue anxiety, as I mentioned, I find your courage inspiring. I believe you may in fact find some value in trying the LBRP just a few times if you would like to experiment, even asking for God's guidance and protection in the process. Many people find that if things get too difficult (it's not the norm, but you're right, it can happen), most people find that slowing down, or balancing out with an invoking ritual in the morning and a banishing in the evening helps to bring things under control. But more than the LBRP (which is definitely a good idea), I recommend practicing regular gratitude. I picked up a trick from Paul McKenna which has always worked for me at times of distress: grab a packet of small stickers, stick them in places you only see once or twice during your day (inside a drawer, on the ironing board, on the remote control...) and every time you see one, think of something to be grateful for. It has to be something new every time. Reading your message, this may need to be step one :) Good luck, and my very best wishes to you, Cody!

@thebluetravelers7544

3 жыл бұрын

Im in the same boat as you cody, I was very hesitant and non trusting at first but then I found damien echols and my intuition knew that I could trust him and follow him Ive done the lbrp around 4 or 5 times now and it's nothing to be afraid of your just working with the elements of earth and balancing your aura out it's really just a creative breathwork tool similar too meditation. You don't even have to believe it's working damien said but it will so just be like a child and imagine drawing stuff in the air with your two fingers and breathing in that good golden light. Hope this helps.

@Oberon334

3 жыл бұрын

@@FoolishFishBooks Thanks for responding. I have a small ritual that I do right before bed where I intentionally focus on whatever is troubling me most (with curiosity rather than judgement) for a couple minutes and then inhale light and exhale black smoke four times. Perhaps I could tack gratitude onto the end of that... Think of one thing I was grateful for that day and then exhale that feeling of gratitude as an offering to God.

@Oberon334

3 жыл бұрын

@@thebluetravelers7544 It does help. :) I actually discovered his KZread channel last year as well. I've felt called to try the LBRP for a while now, so I'll probably take the plunge some time this year.

@Oberon334

3 жыл бұрын

@@skywavedxer6212 The act of performing the ritual itself doesn't make me nervous, it's more a matter of not knowing what the effect will be and whether I can cope with it emotionally. Another concern I have is that Christianity was such a negative experience for me that I can tell I have some bitterness about the experience and even towards the Abrahamic current in general. I suppose it's possible the angels would pick up on that and either not want to work with me or give me a hard time about it... :) I guess I won't know until I try.

If anyone wants to truly understand the astral where you go after you die (temporarily) then look to the theosophists and their explanation of death and the afterlife if your are struggling with the warped christian views. You go to whatever level you are on earth and shed your patterns, some that you enjoy (like ignorance, selfish tendencies, judgmental behaviours, controlling behaviors ect) they speak of seven levels of the astral (which even though spoken as layers, are just a way for people to categorize and conceptualize the astral, there really are not divisions). The lowest two of the seven layers are where major drug addictions are shed, hurtful or hateful tendencies are shed, the lowest level is where the most devious tendencies like the addiction to murder and rapist type mental and emotional patterns are shed. The middle is what you would consider purgatory if you were catholic, just lile boring mundane on earth where you believe you are still doing what you did on earth, the highest two levels are good and amazing. At the top level you basically do whatever you want to do, go around helping others and being full of love and joy and beauty. After all these are shed (when you are ready to let go of all those things) you go through a second death and move up to a realm of learning in preparation for the next lifetime, learning everything that you choose. You have a soul family there that you incarnate with and also masters that don't incarnate anymore (mostly) that are helping you learn how to become like them and learn the lessons of earth and love. Then you move up to the highest realm called deva chan (which is pure spirit) where you can choose to reincarnate to finish lessons and choose your next birth, or if you have let go of all of your desire to incarnate, you can stay in that type of blissful state. Most people end up in the middle astral or higher after death. Some people incarnate as soon as two days after death and others many years... On average usually 87 years between births and can be as long as 1200 years, or never if that is what you choose. Just some solace for people that are as indoctrinated as I was in their adolescence. You only go to where you are at in this life because you experience what you believe and most people have no idea that they are dead after they leave here. Like a dream where you experience what you believe. That is the astral. Learn advanced astral projection and just stay in your room or visit a friend and gradually move to the outer reaches so that you know how to navigate the astral. The theosophists say to try an picture and visualize a diety you trust often like jesus, or krishna, mother mary, madonna, or an angel you trust or guru that has died and if you do it enough, saying come get me when I die, then your soul family or guides (masters) can appear in that form to make you feel safe enough to lead you out of "your own mental projections".... Hope that helps

@denog_yt11

2 жыл бұрын

Love this!

@Space_Ghost_Hunter

2 жыл бұрын

This is also in line with what the Early Hindu Vedic texts said about the afterlife, The Vedas are full of wonderful information, and are some of if not the oldest books written on spiritual revelation. The only thing i'd like to say about your wonderful explanation, is "2 days" in the astral could be 100 millennia here on earth, since technically time is virtually non existent or at the very least much slower the higher up you go, and we don't necessarily reincarnate on a linear earth time line, that is, we can reincarnate in any time period that would best serve the lessons we must learn or how we will serve the earth etc. But of course that is just what I've gleaned in my own research. Great explanation, peace and love brother!

@denog_yt11

2 жыл бұрын

@@Space_Ghost_Hunter Have a look at the book 'The Light Of Egypt' by Thomas H Burgoyne ✨

@jordynwhite3986

2 жыл бұрын

Whoa! This is DEEP! I hope this is true. 🤗Let me get to researching!

@jordynwhite3986

2 жыл бұрын

@Brandon Question….Are you describing each Sefirot when you speak of each level where you shed your traits after death? With that being said, is Malkuth the lower where you shed addiction and murder, then move up the Tree of Life from there?

You are a blessing for those of us just dipping our toes into the mystic arts. And I'm sure for the adept practioners as well. Please keep up these insightful and honest videos. You're approach is more genuine than anyone else on the sight.

Inside Singularity - Hadit - Yin - Pentagram - Microcosm Outside Expansion - Nuit - Yang - Hexagram - Macrocosm Or as James Maynard Keenan put it - Spiral Out! Keep Going!

@FoolishFishBooks

3 жыл бұрын

Yes! Exactly 🍳

@samiam3297

3 жыл бұрын

Spiral out a la Hegel!!! Spin baby! SPIN! 😜

@Scarlett-Echo

3 жыл бұрын

Oh how I appreciate a Tool reference. XX

My attraction to magick has been one of attempting to salve the hell that is my own mind. To learn to operate in a sick world with a sick mind.

It seems that some people are confused by the word 'magic,' and what it means. Some people, even some pagans, think that all magic is witchcraft and therefore forbidden by the Bible. That is, they conflate magic with witchcraft. However, the Bible does not condemn all magic. It condemns the misuse of magic, consorting with false gods or idols, consulting the dead, and consorting with demons or evil spirits. Communication with angels is common in the Old Testament. Abraham and Lot were visited by angels. Gideon was visited by an angel. Jacob was met by angels in Gen. 32:1-2, and wrestled with an angel in Gen. 32:24-30. Angels were assigned to protect and guide Israel through the wilderness in Ex. 14:19, 23:20-23. An angel appeared to Joshua. In the New Testament an angel appeared to Mary, and to Zacharias. Angels appeared to shepherds at the birth of Jesus. An angel strengthened Jesus in the garden of Gethsemane. Divination was practiced by high profile biblical characters. Joseph has a silver cup used for divination in Gen. 44:2, 5, and admits to divination in Gen. 44:15. The Urim and Thummim were used for divining God's will in Num. 27:21, 1 Sam. 28:6. The Urim and Thummim were placed in the ephod of the high priest in Ex. 28:4, 6, 28, 30. Which is used by David to divine God's will in 1 Sam. 23:2, 4, 6, 9-12, 30:7-8. Lots were also used to divine God's will. Prov. 16:33, 18:18, Lev. 16:8, Josh. 18:6-10, 1 Sam. 14:41-42, Acts 1:26. Gideon used a fleece to divine God's will in Judges 6:36-40. But, Gideon made an ephod that became a snare unto him and his house in Judges 8:27. Probably because it wasn't in the tabernacle and being worn by a priest, but was in Ophrah where Gideon had built an altar. Perhaps similar to Micah in Judges 17:5-13, and 18:14-31. They went astray in worshipping other gods. Jacob used magic in Gen. 30:37-43, as he was instructed by an angel of God in a dream, Gen. 31:9-13. Moses was instructed to use magic in Exodus 4:2-9. Which he did in Ex. 7:8-12, 15-21, 8:1-6, 16-17, 20-24: 9:3-6, 8-10, 22-25: 10:12-15, 21-22. In Ezekiel 4:1-17, 5:1-4, Ezekiel is instructed in sympathetic magic. In Jeremiah 27:2, Jeremiah is instructed to wear a yoke as a sign or form of sympathetic magic, which is broken by Hananiah in Jer. 28:10, also as sympathetic magic in conflict with Jeremiah, and which results in Hananiah's death in Jer. 28:15-17. While these can be argued to merely be metaphorical portrayals of prophecy, the principle of a sympathetic connection between the symbol and the reality is still there and is enacted with real world consequences for rebellion and rejection of the message. God's magicians, miracle workers, etc., can be resisted and rejected, imprisoned and executed, but there are still consequences. Jesus turned water into wine; multiplied fish and loaves of bread; walked on water; calmed storms; increased Peter's catch of fish; manifested money from a fish's mouth; healed people; cast out demons; raised the dead; and in John 14:12, he said, "Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father." Did Jesus feed the whole world? No. Did Jesus heal everyone? No. Matt. 13:57-58, "And they were offended in him. But Jesus said unto them, A prophet is not without honor, save in his own country, and in his own house. And he did not many mighty works there because of their unbelief." Psalm 78:41, "Yea, they turned back and tempted God, and limited the Holy One."

@FoolishFishBooks

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you! This is a great list! 😊🙏

@jackslapp9073

3 жыл бұрын

@@FoolishFishBooks. I forgot one. When God told Moses to make a brazen serpent on a pole so that anyone who had been bitten by a venomous snake could be healed by simply looking at the brazen serpent. May God bless you and shine light on your path. 🙏

@crater35

2 жыл бұрын

But aren't demons and evil spirits just whatever pagan deities christians don't like despite the characteristics of that deity?

@jackslapp9073

2 жыл бұрын

@@crater35. No. Demons and evil spirits are the ghosts of the Nephilim and Rephaim, which are separate from fallen angels. Many pagan gods were Nephilim or Rephaim, but not all Nephilim/Rephaim were pagan gods. For instance, Josephus claimed that the Titans, and the gods of the Greeks and Romans were from the same giants that were called Nephilim and Rephaim in the scriptures. They were called Nephilim before the flood, and Rephaim, Anakim, Emim, Horim, and Avim after the flood. See Deut. 2:10-23, and Num. 13:33. However the two words 'Rephaim,' and 'Nephilim,' are often translated as 'giants.' In Deut. 3:11, it says that king Og of Bashan was all that remained of the remant of giants (rephaim). In Isaiah 26:13-14, it talks about the hebrews having had other "lords" over them, "O Lord our God, other lords beside thee have had dominion over us: but by thee only will we make mention of thy name." In the next verse it says, "They are dead ('muwth'), they shall not live; they are deceased ('rephaim'), they shall not rise: therefore hast thou visited and destroyed them, and made all their memory to perish." The word 'rephaim' is translated as 'the dead,' 'dead ones,' or in some translations as 'shades,' i.e. ghosts, in scripture after the death of king David because it is most often used in the context of hell, but not in the context of the spirits of human beings in Abraham's bosom. Before the death of king David the word 'rephaim,' is usually translated as 'giants.' This is because they had been exterminated by the time that David died. Many people read the passages about God telling the Hebrews to exterminate people groups and accuse God of being a psychopath, but the tribes that were targeted were the giant clans, the offspring and descendants of the mating between fallen angels and human women. Isaiah 14:21, speaks about Lucifer, "How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!" And, in verse 21 it says, "Prepare slaughter for his children for the iniquity of their fathers; that they do not rise, nor possess the land, nor fill the face of the world with cities." In Isaiah 14:19, it says, "But thou art cast out of thy grave like an abominable branch, as the raiment of those that are slain, thrust through with a sword, that go down to the stones of the pit; as a carcase trodden under feet." In this verse, the word translated as 'abominable branch,' is 'neser,' and is a loan word from Egyptian that means 'dead god,' a deified dead king, like the mummified pharaohs of Egypt. However, because of the lack of vowels in the oldest Hebrew texts, it is possible that the word is the Hebrew word 'nasar,' which means 'watcher,' and refers to the angelic beings spoken of in Daniel. Yet, Daniel is written in Aramaic and the word translated as 'watcher,' in Daniel is 'ir.' Still, there is one place where the word 'watcher,' is translated from the Hebrew 'nasar,' and refers to the same angelic beings, and that is Jeremiah 4:16, "Make ye mention to the nations; behold, publish against Jerusalem, that watchers (nasar) come from a far country, and give out their voice against the cities of Judah." The language here is similar to that of Dan. 4:17, "This matter is by decree of the watchers, and the demand by the word of the holy ones..." As well as Isaiah 13:5, "They come from a far country, from the end of heaven, even the Lord, and the weapons of his indignation, to destroy the whole land." Consequently, it is my opinion that the "watchers," in Jer. 4:16, are angelic beings like those in Daniel 4, since they are decreeing or crying out judgment, and come from a "far country," akin to that in Isaiah 13:5. Nevertheless, the point is that the fallen ones, the fallen angels, were considered pagan gods in the Bible, while their mortal giant children were also considered to be gods to some people groups, but there is a theological difference. According to Deut. 32:8, God assigned angels to govern the nations. "When the Most High divided to the nations their inheritance, when he separated the sons of Adam, he set the bounds of the people according to the number of the angels of God." (Septuagint translation). And, in Psalm 82:1, it says, "God standeth in the congregation of the mighty; he judgeth among the gods." Verse 6, "I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the Most High." Verse 7, "But ye shall die like men, and fall like one of the princes." So, from the biblical perspective only angels were referred to as "gods." And, only the disembodied spirits, the ghosts of the dead Rephaim were considered demons. However, if some pagans had Rephaim as their god or gods, they wouldn't be demons until they died and their spirit was left to wander the earth. The Rephaim have no resurrection, "they shall not rise." So, while it is probably true that some pagan gods were demons/spirits of the Rephaim, it is also true that some were mortal Rephaim with long life spans that only became demons after they died. But, they wouldn't have been gods according to the biblical paradigm. Only the angels that God assigned to the different nations were considered "gods." Plus, there was idolatry which is merely worshipping some physical object, statue, or symbol that has no actual spirit, as if it has supernatural power. Idols might be dedicated to demons, and used to channel demons, but without that connection they are just dead objects. Some might refer to it as animism. Hence, not all pagan gods would have been considered demons or evil spirits. But some would have been if they met the right qualifications. Lastly, since your question assumes a non-biblical paradigm where any pagan god is demonized simply because it is pagan, the question over-simplifies the issue and mischaracterizes the biblical paradigm. I'm not trying to offend you: you probably don't know any other perspective. I am just pointing out that your question has assumptions that don't allow a yes response even if it has happened that way in some instances since it is not the paradigm that the judeo-christian traditions are rooted in. Likes or dislikes, and the characteristics of the deity, have nothing to do with why a pagan god might be considered a demon. And, it is that part of your question that I give a definite, "No," to, even if it is the case that some pagan gods were demons/spirits of the dead Rephaim. That is, the reason why a pagan god might be considered a demon, is not because of the reason you asked about. Further, if God assigned angels to be "gods," over the different nations then those pagan gods that remained loyal and obedient to Yahweh would not have been considered evil spirits, let alone rephaim/demons. There are instances of God assigning angels to guide and guard Israel, as well as punish Israel. And, instances of God indicating that there were other nations and people that were under his authority and enjoyed his favor, or suffered his judgment, and that he could use for his purposes. And, in the book of Daniel there is an account of the angel Michael, the "prince" (prinicipality) of Israel contending with the angelic prince of Greece. After the coming of Jesus, that arrangement of there being different angelic princes or gods over the different nations changed though. To elaborate further I would need to refer to texts that are considered apocryphal, so I will leave it here unless you have more questions.

Amazing video! Loved the approach and insights, and couldn’t agree more. As Lon Milo says...”It's All In Your Head ... You Just Have No Idea How Big Your Head Is”...keep the good work FF!

@FoolishFishBooks

3 жыл бұрын

Gotta love Lon! It's the quote that made me decide I could trust him 😄♥️

So I've been watching your videos for about a year now and I can honestly say they have truly enriched my life with valuable intake and information about topics most people must touch or talk about out loud ,keep up the GREAT WORK.

Man, your content is pure GOLD from every point of view. You don't know how it means to me. Blessings!

I always kinda liked Swedenborg's interpretation of his experiences when he explained that Heaven and Hell were states of mind.

As always your reflections on this fascinates me, I always look forward to watching you ✨💫✨

Thank you for challenging the walls most people grow up surrounded by in religion. I only opened my mind two years ago and really started questioning what I was taught as a "baptist" Christian. I had a very lengthy conversation ( 8 hours long) with a norse pagan which blew the lid off my brain pan. I was astounded, and absolutely captivated. My journey for knowledge and spiritual truth began. It's been a lonely path thus far, mentally challenging as old stigmas rise up constantly and have to be overcome, but also liberating and comforting as well. Knowing now that magik is simply a tool, like a knife, or firearms, and the responsibility is on the person who wields it, gives me much comfort in the matter. Your videos have been and are instrumental in finding good material, jumping off points, and pushing the restraints on my mind. Thank you.

Amazing video! I always wondered about this topic. Thanks for shinning a light ❤️🤘

Hell! what crazy dogma is this. Everyone knows our hearts are weighed against a feather, whilst a Doberman licks his lips.

@FoolishFishBooks

3 жыл бұрын

Haha! 😅 🐺 🪶⚖️♥️ 🐊🦛🦁

@fdddsigns7274

3 жыл бұрын

ma’ay you have a great day for this😂 i have a lot of gra’atitude for this comment

@jdbailey442

3 жыл бұрын

🤣😂😭💀The way I cackled while reading this post!!

@GabrielZ.

3 жыл бұрын

😂

@alexanderkaval7506

3 жыл бұрын

😂🤣

My favourite of yours to date! Thank you!

How beautiful and eloquently stated. Thank You.

Foolish Fish really does have the best comments section for insightful discussions ❤

Your channel has cleared alot of things for me thank you for video. I feel like my pursuit of knowledge and truth has come full swing. Everything seems much clearer now. Thank you.

Very thoughtful and well expressed and this really provoked some awesome comments and conversation, which I guess is a testiment to that.❤️

Thank you this video. The topic keeps flying back to me after putting the thought out into the universe.

Hi FF... how interesting and entertaining. However, I would like to recognize the FF Community... such great comments and input. This video really woke up the people. Each comment was on point and respectful to one another. That is a sign of respect and loyal to your channel. You and the FF Community are appreciated. Thanks folks... learned a lot from each of you!! Stay safe and question everything😜

@FoolishFishBooks

3 жыл бұрын

Got to hand it to you guys, you really are, collectively, just the best!

My dude, the concepts you're presenting are so well thought through. Very much appreciate your thoughts.

I love your channel, thank you very much for sharing your very interesting thoughts and knowledge.

I'm not even half way through your video but whoa is this the part of KZread I've longed for I've been going through a mental health breakdown mixed with other stuff and it helped crystalized quite a bit for me Thank you

@FoolishFishBooks

3 жыл бұрын

:) I'm so glad you're enjoying it! :)

@a_new_hourbandofficial9121

2 жыл бұрын

Same here I’ve been struggling with mental health problems lately and I know that a loving god doesn’t want that for me….. the church and people I know don’t like, that I like to play heavy metal rock music on my guitar, but I am sure if god my father loves me, he would want me to do something that makes me happy and to do something that puts my soul at ease so I’ve been playing guitar hardcore for the past couple weeks again and my mental health issues are getting better

Amazing perspective. Especially because it's coming from someone who identifies as a Christian. Thank you for your time in putting this together

So much gratitude for this video! I was pondering the subject for weeks/months... even if I was somehow reaching the same conclusion, Icouldn’t articulate my thoughts that clearly. Thanks 🙏

I'm converting to Catholicism and I respect you and your channel since I believe in Magick and I'm very fascinated by it and everything related to it: Carl Jung, Kabbalah and Alchemy. I follow Christ's commandments and way of life because for me He (Besides being God incarnated) taught us the ultimate Magick: the Eternal Life! Btw I'm not trying to convert anyone here, just showing my perspective

@rred8674

3 жыл бұрын

You're in good company then, catholicism is a very neatly packaged reimagining of paganism. The result of our transition from the age of the ram to the age of the fish.

@arth_steps

3 жыл бұрын

@@rred8674 Yes! Most people use the argument of "coincidence" between various religions and prophecies from the world to say that one religion is just a copy of another one, but for me this is synchronicity. The fact that aristotelian and (neo)platonic views of transcendence and the nature of the soul is fascinating of how close they were to christian theology, and in the Indian philosophy there is the Advaita Vedanta, it is also close to the view of non dualism in christianity.

Damn, looks like I may be watching all the saturdays now...damn, much more fun videos that i expected! Nice approach to these sir. As for hell, i never believed in an afterlife hell, especially as most of the Jesuits and Basilian fathers in school either said there was no hell and that we all go to heaven -- to them this was without question a "medieval" aspect of the church left behind in practice and preaching if not in doctrine -- but then of course I explored dmt realms and found places that echoed the darker realms I've seen in spirit travelling. It struck me even if you spent what seemed like a day in some of these...places of consciousness...that would be far worse than any hell of which I've heard from preachers. But not even the most hellish of these hyperspaces pales in comparison to the hell you can enter in THIS world while alive. Thoughtful stuff, merci.

Really glad to stumble upon here on such a great video for a first time.

As a Christian , i still believe picking one of the Abrahamic Religions if you want to avoid "hell" and go to "heaven". Imo i think it lays out the best guidelines/rules/laws for humanity to achieve this. I understand why some people do not like them. The reason why i say this is that with Magick it can be tricky to fully understand or grasp what you are doing and personally i think the impact could be worse than what we believe. I understand there is spells and Magick for good such as healing and things of similar nature but do we really know where this power is coming from. Most people watching this vid, including myself believe that there is more that meets the eye in this world like engery, entities demons, angels and all of that stuff. I do believe in Magick in all it forms and the bible even speaks about it with king Solomon who conjured many demons. Personally i believe when looking for answers that are above our aura or engery field we can simply not comprehend it as we are not designed for such knowledge. At the end of the day it depends on if you believe that these holy books are from God or not.

Absolutely brilliant video very well spoken n explained, so interesting I love it. An 4 me to sit an listen to someone harping on for 20 minutes especially with my anxiety I get very bored but gotta say u done it 4 me hands dwn, u had my full attention an subscribed now. Word up

Thanks for sharing! I love your perspective on this topic, it's a really helpful discussion to consider in relation to my own models

Wasn't expecting to like this as much as your other videos, not being a Christian, but I found your take thought-provoking. Thank you.

From the bottom of my heart, thank you so much for making this. I’ve been struggling with this question for some time and it’s really been inhibiting my spiritual journey. I want to keep my Christianity, it’s always been a part of me, I just know there’s more out there though and I don’t feel like I can just ignore that. And thank you for that last bit at the end. I did not enjoy an indoctrination free life or childhood. That stuff is etched into me. But I still can’t help but see the beauty in Christianity. That’s why I just can’t bring myself to give it up, despite my broader spiritual interests and interests in magick. This gave me a lot to think about, so thank you again.

congrats on delivering your message with a delightful manner 👍🏼

10:37 Hearing this. I think it was your second or so video here in this Playlist. It was eye-opening. Along with the story you were covering at the time. I am still glad to have found your content.

Great talk! I was listening to an organ music livestream earlier today, and when one person announced in the live chat that he was gay, another told him that he would go to hell, in other words to the pit of fire. I love the saying attributed to Rabi'a that she wanted to put out the fires of hell and burn heaven so people would want God for Himself, not for immortality. It's sad that the fear of hell should still inflict so much suffering on so many. I recently read a biography of John Betjeman in which it said that he feared going to hell because of having a mistress. I thought that it was terrible that he had felt like that.

Since I've started my path, this has been my inner mind chatter, coming from a heavy catholic background, it just didn't felt right to call GOD and pray for him without a true understanding of what I was calling Father or Mother. As long as you hear your heart and your inner gut then you'll know what path you need to take. If I'm going to hell? It's scary the thought of it...but is scarier the idea of not living fully before you depart, and still, you are tied down to your own fears and judgments. Thank you Foolish Fish for this video.

Excellent, as always, you deliver on all points :)

@FoolishFishBooks

3 жыл бұрын

I'm so glad you you like it, Gabriel! 😊🙏 Best wishes to you!

Absolutely stunning video, FF! Superb content, and flawless religious reasoning, backed up by scripture.

I had an idea about this while visiting a historic Spiritual community- Cassadega, FL. Growing up orthodox Christian, this town was infamous. As an open minded adult I found a gem of a place. I came to the conclusion that sometimes people get a satisfaction from feeling exclusive with the power to judge. It can be intoxicating. Maybe this is a coping mechanism to thier own inner shame. We should definately exercise discernment but through wisdom and the capacity of a receptive heart. Anyway, love your projections into the ether. Keep it up please.

I agree with you 💯. Wonderful video. Thanks for sharing.

That was very much full of depth. I'm going to like 👍 this video and binge on more due to my ability to resonate with these vibes! Lol

Brilliant video!

I'm from the old school of thought. """It is not what you do it is how you do it at whom you do that to..."""I tried to be respectful to everyone to me there is no heaven or hell it is the heaven or hell you have in your heart that determines how light your feather is when you pass on...

@Thes4LT

3 жыл бұрын

It does actually matter what you do. Some "acts" are essentially passive and constitute giving into desire/craving rather than reaffirming the active domination by one's soul. If you eat a lot of sugar because it's very pleasurable for you, you are allowing the active principle of your soul to be nullified, which will cause a lot of distress if you cannot overcome it before death. It will impede you from certain tests that await you. You might think that you aren't distressed by eating sugar, but that would be utterly false, because craving in itself is a privation that prevents one from attaining spiritual enlightenment. One must learn how to dominate one's desires in some way so that one ceases to fall into the futile "fulfilment" of mere cycles. This might mean detatching yourself during pleasurable experiences, being mindful when you engage in experiences by opposing desire and then engaging in the act unpassionately, or it could mean meeting one's desires only in moderation. It's a lot more complicated than "do no harm," because the greatest harm you can ever do is to yourself and often its cause remains invisible if you aren't wise.

@omnihuntress208128

3 жыл бұрын

@@Thes4LT I'mma keep this 💯 with you. I'm a hell of a lot more than what this medallion that represents me is. Check out the video and go to the next level then maybe things WILL sweeten up for you too... Yeah I'm that person that others thought is last that has become first...

You have opened a whole new world to this 75 year old. Thank you.

@FoolishFishBooks

5 ай бұрын

Wishing you courage and blessings during any shift in world models you end up with, Bob! Maybe a video I made called "A problem with my religion" can shed further light.

Thank for the video i really enjoyed your opinion on the subject great job

i had a feeling that this would encapsulate what i already know and feel :) and it did. but i watched it anyway fish. love your videos brother and you've helped me a lot with your words.

Found your channel. LOVE IT!!!

You guys are incredible!!!

i like the various directions your channel has taken. thanks

This was superb!

Wonderful video! I love your insight 🙏🏻

@FoolishFishBooks

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Lucky Boots! And thanks for the support! Come join us on the Discord chat if you have the opportunity... Just grab the discord app, create a profile of you haven't already, and then go to "user settings" > Connections > KZread and enter your YT credentials there. You'll see the invitation appear right there. Hope to see you there! 😊🙏

Very well done, thank you 🧡🦹‍♀️🙏🎶🎵🌞

i just read doors of perception and heavan and hell so i was so psyched to see you post this video and even more psyched when you mentioned it

@FoolishFishBooks

3 жыл бұрын

Biiiig favourite of mine :D What mind, that Aldous Huxley, eh?

Very well said, Maître, thank you...

I had to play this video twice… perfect timing. As a Christian, I needed to hear this. Thank you!

@FoolishFishBooks

11 ай бұрын

I'm so glad this resonated! 🙏

Would love more videos on the topic of demons! I find your point of view on it fascinating

Hey man , i just wanted you to know , your videos are having a big impact on my life lately , esoteric knowledge is the best source of knowledge !

@nikolakachevok8248

3 жыл бұрын

Keep the good work coming 🔮

This is riveting and fantastic!

Spot on.

You're the only KZreadr I don't mind watching the ads for :)

@FoolishFishBooks

3 жыл бұрын

I deeply appreciate that, @saul :D

I love you Foolish Fish, you've changed my view of the world for the better more than once.

Excellent!

@FoolishFishBooks

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you Timothy, I'm really glad you liked it! 😄 Not always easy to judge how a video will be received by different sections of an audience, but it means a lot to me that you give it the thumbs up 😊🙏 best wishes to you! Hope you're doing well!

I really want to make a reaction video to this but I will tell my experience in short here: I grew up as a Jehovah's Witness and the stories they tell from encountering anything that might reek of demons that attracts demons and how they tortured those who came in contact. The video addressed guilt for doing something bad but didn't seem to address the guilt I was feeling at the time: Guilt from seeking truth and feeling condemned for doing so and most of the time being torn apart from following the call from God inside me to come closer by seeking truth and the moral rules of the JW community. I studied in that time NLP (near-linguistic programming) and Hypnosis. Wanting to help other people I used it to help people get rid of fears and phobias, learn new behaviours and unlearn behaviour that was no longer needed. Yes, I got in trouble because I was learning more about strange and seemingly forbidden things and second because me helping people was seen a bandage fix and not trusting in how God would soon fix everything. I began to understand that the power that was told of in ancient scripture like the bible was mostly from people, prophets having direct contact and having conversations with angels. And that the rituals were the core and the theories around those experiences were build around it. My understanding was that the more closest experience I could have with the divine the purer the message would be. I began to study magick as a way to understand and achieve that. While being fearful about books and other physical items about things that might reek of demons I started to learn about magick...I tested the waters with downloading PDF files from Crowleys books and began to read. I love all kinds of magick traditions. I started with high magick and chaos magick. (yes, I had night I could not sleep out of fear but I was convinced that truth can not hurt the truth seeker or more accurately that not knowing can hurt far more than knowing and gaining understanding is a divine act.) I held on to Williams Blake view of the Divine and the divine in us and still do. (I could tell much more but I made this comment already way too long.)

@peacefuldaizy5717

3 жыл бұрын

My parents divorced when I was 2. My mom studied with the JW's and wanted out. For whatever reason, she realized her only way to get TOTALLY out was to light up a cigarette after a meeting one day. She was promptly disfellowshipped. I've often wondered why she didn't just quit.

@Healitall

3 жыл бұрын

@@peacefuldaizy5717 any religious organisation tempts to create a strong ingroup feeling (and a strong fear for what is outside often too). it’s not only a religion you say goodbye but the longer you are in it the more relationships, people, people who many called you friend, people you come to see as a second family, you say goodbye. That is what hurt me the most when leaving: It felt like I was betraying people who came to see me as friends, best friends even. It took me so long to find a few people I could really connect with and when they connected with me ..after a while ..I announced I left. I left the door open for them to connect with me again..but they didn’t.

@peacefuldaizy5717

3 жыл бұрын

@@Healitall : This is true. We have several family members who are JW, and they basically shunned my mom because she was disfellowshipped. I never thought about if she lost any close friends when she was disfellowshipped, but I am now thinking she did.

@ogreegg

3 жыл бұрын

I also grew up a jw, was atheist after that for a little while, then had a really weird and cool experience and believed more in a higher power than ever before. Spent years searching and trying to make sense of the Bible to no avail. Then a bunch synchronicitys started happening, and here I am, subscribed to this channel. Life's a trip, just gotta let go and see where it leads you I guess.

@spearoffiretarot3641

3 жыл бұрын

I grew up as a JW myself and so much of this resonates with my experience. Just want you to know that you are seen. Since you mentioned Blake I think Isaiah’s statement “the voice of honest indignation is the voice of God” is worth mentioning here. Blessed be, Brother.

You should be complimented with a bigger audience, love your explanation:)

great video. very interesting topic. subscribed.

Thankyou for this fascinating upload, I consider myself a Christian but I have stopped practicing magick, as it's the dogma left over from my strict catholic upbringing. But certain spiritual experiences from practicing has thrown the catholic dogma as a lie. But it leads me with more questions.

Always enjoy hearing your take on things, and maybe im speaking out of ignorance but my reservations from becoming a creator was the invocation of demons, blood ritual sacrifice which i wrongly assumed that all the ethereal things used in workings were derived from pacts of fallen entities. Thanks for helping to demystify the taboo for me

Thank you for these videos

God looks at your heart. So intent, and where your heart is at.... that will be your answer. I think any true Christian will KNOW (through the Holy Ghost) whether they are in Gods will or not. Thank you for addressing this topic Foolie. I think the devil worshippers or practitioners of the darker side/elements of Magick know they are doing something wrong. Conviction of the spirit should guide the practitioner. Peace go with you all!

Great stuff.

thank you, you put a few more things to rest in ones self, thank you i appreciate it

From what I’ve experienced (and this may be aligned with the orthodox Christian view) Hell is the same light of God:absolute Truth and Hell is the rejection of that absolute Truth. For us when we reject that Truth it feels like a burning flame but fir those who surrender to that Truth it’s a brilliant bright light that fills us with peace. So our perceptions and rejection or acceptance of the absolute Truth (Gods will and Gods law) are what generate that experience and allow us to exist at these various planes of consciousness. But that’s just my experience and perception at this stage . Departing from this plane out of sync with Truth seems like it will lead to an expansion of suffering and until we repent (turn our backs) to our misguided desires and desire what God desires we’re ultimately setting ourselves up for a painful existence

Mr. “Fish” each time more and more sharp: some very good examples and great comparisons. Here is a video that everyone interested in the subject should profitably watch

Thanks! Awesome vid!

Thank you so much ❤❤❤

Loved this vid. Cheers.

You have a really cool view here, I don't necessarily agree with you, I find it really weird, we supposedly live in the same universe but the way you explain it is so different than the way I see it, that it makes me think if we really do live in the same "place". It's nice to remember that my interpretation of reality isn't the ultimate interpretation of reality, most times I act as if I'm the center of the universe, without even realizing it.

Thanks For All You Do...

We are created. We are created to create. To not do so is to laugh in the face of Spirit, to deny our natural existence, and to dim our lights to a pathetic flicker. Create, you that are created.

Hey, killing a witch doesn't mean the witch is going to hell, right? 😅 One of the last straws before I stopped going to church completely was realizing that during confession, the priest was more troubled that I had not visited church each and every week than by the things which were actually troubling me.

@FoolishFishBooks

3 жыл бұрын

I mean it's a giveaway, for sure! 😅

@stormyweather8236

2 жыл бұрын

Lol

i dont know how i found you but im on my 3rd vid of yours and love your work, thank you sir

The strangest part of most people’s “hell theories” is that a just and righteous god created this place and that the majority of humanity will end up there. They base this on scripture that states no man comes to the father except through me ~Jesus. And most of these same people believe mankind is born into sin. So the only way to escape the fate of eternal hell is to embrace a life dedicated to Jesus. Meanwhile the tempting and deceiving spirits which lead man to sin become the overseers of such a place. Why would a just and righteous god create man who “loves the world so much that he sent his only begotten...” also hate the world so much as to damn everybody else (the majority of mankind) to a tortured eternity?

@davonbenson4361

3 жыл бұрын

The only explanation that I can come up with, is that he didn’t like what the World was turning into.

@remylebeau8934

3 жыл бұрын

@Martin Luther where did sin come from?

Or as Max Igan has said before, "What is spelling? We use magick all the time when we write. We use symbols called words to convey a message, or to bind an agreement. Essentially we're casting a spell".