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Only top tier hall of famers will hold up over time. Of the 274 players in the baseball hall of fame, less than 10% will hold their values long term. If you’re not in the top 25 all time, expect your cards to go down, way down. Same goes for other sports. My two cents.

DPZ do you have any evidence for your forecasting? Do some reading on the projected future market for collectibles. Obviously only goats have a chance to increase in the future but collecting for one's PC seems very strong

Edgar Martinez, Jay Buhner non-goats that sell for pennies. Randy Johnson is a Goat and his prices are like commons. Ichiro also low. Only Junior held up. This is from Mariners perspective. Will non-goats hold up? Answer is HELL NO

I think if certain players have a good story with them it helps the prices stay up. I also think as time goes on fans will see that specific players were so good that current players will never reach their numbers. Chipper Jones and Randy Johnson are a few I think will eventually be higher up. McGwire and Sosa will always have a great story attached to them is another example.

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I amassed 520+ different Gary Sheffield game used until I shipped 340 off to comc to list. Why? There’s no difference in owning 520 different or 100 different. There is no difference between owning 1 sports card and 2, other than income. Are we not all throwing our discretionary income towards cards, based off economic level, and trying to mentally “keep up with the joneses”. Yeah. Lol. Anyways it’s just a circle such as politics. We can talk about it till we’re blue, that’s why we’re all here, but we’re all collecting based off how much we work or have money In our own lives

I know Mickey Mantle cards are doing really well.

Drake you gotta get DPZ to a card show. He’ll see the hobby in a new positive light.

Good discussion. I think DPZ is talking about different elements of the hobby in regard to what will matter in the future. In my observations, many collectors who have entered or re-entered the hobby more recently are starting to find the lanes they enjoy collecting and it is creating an organic demand for sets and players that may not be the all-time great Hall of Fame players. To DPZ’s point, the other subset of the hobby where financial gain is a greater concern are reaching a breaking point. The margins are too thin for the investors and flippers to continue to take advantage of collectors. The collectors are starting to understand the true organic demand for their cards and are less likely to pay exorbitant premiums when the flippers try to gouge them, which has been Drake’s point for sometime now. I think people in the hobby with a collector’s mindset do need to be cognizant of when flippers and investors move into their market so that they don’t get taken advantage of. However, DPZ is correct in the sense that all-time great players will be the vast majority of cards that are 4, 5 and 6 figure cards moving into the future. The second tier great players may have a lower ceiling, but are also starting out at a lower floor and provide more room to have fun collecting them.

DPZ went NWO Hollywood Hogan on sports cards!

To me, I believe the worst thing for non-goat players collectors is what will happen when they need the money most. So let's say I am a Shaq/Rodman/AI collector and we are talking about their best cards from 90s, PMG, Rubies and so on. (Big 3 other than MJ or Kobe from the 90s) The supply will be very limited like always in these 10-15 years, the demand, we have market manipulation from some big shot, no need to worry. But what makes me wonder, it is the year 2060, so most of us are at 70s/80s/90s, either we died or it is when we need some extra money for everything. So either we or the one inherit the cards are selling those, but do we still have demand then?

@TheSportsCardDad

6 күн бұрын

It’s an excellent point. Will there be an end collector there to buy a non goat player’s expensive cards down the road?

What up SCD

@TheSportsCardDad

11 күн бұрын

what up?!!

@PickSixCards

11 күн бұрын

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This hobby is loaded with collectors who have a followers mentality. The fact that Mickey Mantle is the most popular vintage player (despite not even being the greatest of his era) tells you all you need to know. How many collectors focus more on Mickey Mantle because his cards are worth more? I don’t think it’s as simple as non-goats. Tim Duncan is one of the greatest PF in the history of the NBA, has 5 rings, and his cards are dirt cheap. I think there is specific amount of players in the hobby that the masses gravitate to. After that, it’s all about a player and does he appeal to a niche group? Are 22 year old collectors buying Tony Gwynn cards? Probably not. Are collectors from 40-55 years old collecting Tony Gwynn? Probably yes. So non goats like Tony Gwynn and Tim Duncan will sort of hold their value to a specific group of collectors who saw them play. I’ll pay for a Gwynn, Randy Johnson, Jim Kelly and Tim Duncan cards. Will my 25 year old nephew collect those guys? Probably not.

I’ve been saying it for years now… We should all vote for The Rock. I mean, there’s no denying his exceedingly mediocre work in Baywatch, but I somehow sense he’d do right by the people.

@TheSportsCardDad

8 күн бұрын

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