I'm British, English & have long been in favour of a United Ireland.

@abren5974

4 жыл бұрын

I'm an American and I favour a United Ireland en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Kingdom_of_Great_Britain_and_Ireland

@ftl8054

4 жыл бұрын

Abren 😂😂😂😂

@duineeireannach6588

4 жыл бұрын

rox mo thanks mate

@7rox1990

4 жыл бұрын

@@ftl8054 lol there's good ppl everywhere- politics has a way of getting in the way. I think most Brits (in the know) have no problem with a United Ireland- same goes with better relations / shared Sovereignty of the Falklands with Argentina.. the problem is when blood gets spilt- logic goes out the window. God willing we will see Irish sovereignty over the North of YOUR country. God bless and love the Irish forever.

@ftl8054

4 жыл бұрын

rox mo yea i thought that the British were desperately trying to hold on to the north but its actually only the people in the North of Ireland that care

I'm British and Protestant but it is blindingly obvious that a United Ireland is the way forward

@zyxw2024

5 жыл бұрын

Ireland is a British Isle. Scotland, England, Wales, are on a British Isle.

@mousegrove

5 жыл бұрын

J B it's just called the British Isles on maps. Gaelic culture is quite different to Anglo Saxon culture. The reality is that most people in England don't care about unionists in Northern Ireland, or have come around to the ethical stance that it probably deserves to be a United country at this stage. The sad truth is that most NI unionists can't grasp that practically nobody in England is in their corner.

@paulbasq

5 жыл бұрын

@@zyxw2024 its not called the British isles here.

@paulbasq

5 жыл бұрын

@@zyxw2024 Ní thuigim. Labhraigh an Ghaeilge a bhfuil clown agat.

@senoirmongoose5605

5 жыл бұрын

J B that is geographical term and nothing more (None in Ireland use this however because it does, like you say, suggest some sort of connection to Britain when there is none!) what the hell is your point here? Infuriatingly singular and un-informed opinion.

Unionism is dying in NI. Our country will be united, and Brexit will be the key.

@nigelmurphy6761

4 жыл бұрын

@@CatholicWeeb not really dude.

@nigelmurphy6761

4 жыл бұрын

indeed. but we've got to do it right.

@JMBPro

4 жыл бұрын

Unionism isn't dying, but Nationalism is. No one cares about Britain but no one wants to be apart of Ireland either.

@liammacaodha4783

4 жыл бұрын

No it's not, they still hate each other in NI just like they always have. Lived there for 4 years recently.

@JMBPro

4 жыл бұрын

@@liammacaodha4783 we don't hate each other but it is a very controversial topic which is uncomfortable to discuss when you're out in public; the best we can do is not judge someone because they are different. One very good friend of mine is a nationalist and no matter how much I disagree with his opinion he's still one of the nicest people I've ever met. He wants to be Irish, I want to be Northern Irish.

german here. reunification is a good thing. go for it.

@Tait0o

4 жыл бұрын

Also, a German here. If a majority wants it go for unification. But don't do it like it was done in Germany. Treat your new fellow union members with respect and don't discriminate them, like it is and was done in Germany.

@kleinweichkleinweich

4 жыл бұрын

so sieht's aus!

@JMBPro

4 жыл бұрын

you don't know what you're talking about

@kleinweichkleinweich

4 жыл бұрын

@@JMBPro der Brexiteer is ja schon so ne art Insel-Ossi (nich die echten Bewohner von Neufünfland sonder halt das cliché)

@JMBPro

4 жыл бұрын

@@kleinweichkleinweich what language is that? german I'm guessing?

A United Ireland is the obvious outcome should have been done years ago.

@S2Tubes

5 жыл бұрын

The only problem being that the majority of NI didn't want it.

@Ystadcop

5 жыл бұрын

DC, sorry, dream on............

@jmac1152

5 жыл бұрын

DC And how would you have done that?

5 жыл бұрын

Ireland will be united, there is no choice in the matter.

5 жыл бұрын

Your ignorance and crazed derp show how stupid you are nothing else.

De Gaulle was so right: the UK should have never been allowed to be part of an European project.

@brianadens9826

4 жыл бұрын

De gaulle was 2 faced prick ,whko stayed in britian ww2. The french there weak bitter and twisted, macron the bankers bitch.

I haven't had a drink in nearly 30 years. A reunited Ireland will see me drink a Guinness in celebration. Éire go Brách !

@ddha0000

5 жыл бұрын

only way a united ireland would work is if the republic rejoins the UK, its the only solution. we would welcome it.

@iamthatiam8391

5 жыл бұрын

Mr.Bubbles A hard Brexit will be so crippling and destabilizing for the UK that Northern Ireland will have no choice but to rejoin Ireland. And the whole world would welcome it.

@IgnoresTrolls

5 жыл бұрын

@@ddha0000 Utter shite mate.

@ddha0000

5 жыл бұрын

er...........if the UK is crippled then so does the republic of ireland as its whole economy depends on the UK. Northern Ireland's local economy also depends way more on the rest of the UK than the republic. so, again, if the UK sinks, so does the republic, hence why the EU are desperate for a deal because they know it would lead to another collapse in the Irish economy and another bailout. Brexit is a stupid idea, but the EU must give us a good deal that works for everyone. Also, as I have mentioned before, a United Ireland would mean a civil war in the country, you think the hardline unionists would accept it, not a chance, would be decades of war again.

@SnakeFist150

5 жыл бұрын

Don't drink that piss. Have a pint of Murphys to celebrate, in fact, have 8.

"The United Republic Of Ireland"...sounds good in my ears!

@chiyulater9752

3 жыл бұрын

Death to Britain.

@SimonCowie86

3 жыл бұрын

The United Republic of Ireland there would be no such thing. The words Republic & Northren would be dropped & it will just be Ireland

@myth8334

3 жыл бұрын

Ewww 🤒

@geraltofrivea7759

3 жыл бұрын

@@chiyulater9752 Bring it on you jealous little third-worlder

@oog2370

3 жыл бұрын

@@SimonCowie86 to be fair the republics official name is actually just Ireland or Éire

The DUP didn't even agree to the Good Friday agreement in the first place, what makes anybody think they would respect it now?

@Paul5520

5 жыл бұрын

Brian Rainsford Marshall course they didn’t but in the scheme of things, there dissent is insignificant. They also owe TM a few bob I hear.

@dlenny3369

5 жыл бұрын

The DuP wasnt even involved in the GFA. They were too busy calling for 18th century laws to be reintroduced.

@stallthedigger2599

4 жыл бұрын

Because they will be forced to respect it

@jwil4286

4 жыл бұрын

Dlenny Lenny like persecuting Catholics? Or is there something else you’re thinking of?

The irony is Brexit might lead to rapid decline of the UK; a United Ireland, Scottish independence, all England will have left is Wales.

@sodaking6858

5 жыл бұрын

"England " oh :( can we swap wales for Scotland

@iordanneDiogeneslucas

3 жыл бұрын

Im hoping wales and cornwall leave as well. English self rule through the backdoor

@PurpleCastles

3 жыл бұрын

Didn't Wales try to become independent from the UK a few years ago but failed? If they tried again, wouldn't it be easier now that Brexit exists?

A United Ireland and an Independent Scotland. Thank you May.

I can not wait to see a United Ireland

@memefarmer5255

5 жыл бұрын

go awayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

@momissimo4087

5 жыл бұрын

let's see. Everything is possible since the referendum, It has been the worst political mistake in modern history

@James-sk4db

5 жыл бұрын

I mean it could be united if ROI rejoined the UK, to unionists in NI you are asking them to do the equivalent

@James-sk4db

5 жыл бұрын

Love the concept of Karma means I can go around being a dick to people and assume they deserve it. Im perfectly happy to get rid of the british identity and devolve back to calling our selves Irish, scots, welsh and english within the same country of the uk

@JoolzThePirate

5 жыл бұрын

Neither can I, i look forward to a return of bombings everywhere, but only in ireland at this point.

Personally haven't met a single leaver who cares about NI beyond the formalities of politics. They just want to leave the EU and with or without NI is immaterial.

@bogboy90210

5 жыл бұрын

Straightcherry D. That’s because the average Briton doesn’t know anything about Northern Ireland. Many of them think that Britain still rules the whole of Ireland. They obviously don’t teach much about colonialism in schools there.

@StraightcheD

5 жыл бұрын

That may certainly exacerbate the problem, but the impression I get is that there's a social dynamic which gives them a strong urge to leave and that being so overwhelming that any logic or knowledge becomes irrelevant, irrespective of what education. It seems closer to a sex drive than ignorance.

@BrianMcGuirkBMG

5 жыл бұрын

Most in mainland uk don't know or care.

@alexharrington6459

5 жыл бұрын

I doubt many finished school or can read anything more intellectually challenging than the Sun.

@gerbenvanessen

5 жыл бұрын

@bogboy people might think you are joking but I have seen brummies actually tell Irish people ( republic) "so you're from the UK then." they also thought the Netherlands ( where I am from) had a population of "like a thousand." so.... yeah I don't think collectively the average brit is the brightest thing one might encounter.

Just give Northern Ireland back to the Irish. I'm British and i'm ashamed to be

@declanflanagan3927

5 жыл бұрын

I'm from Dublin The Republic Of Ireland thank you

@SeanQuinn-IrishMarxist

5 жыл бұрын

R A - Because northern Ireland was gerrymandered to reflect a unionist majority. It was undemocratic then, it remains so today. Only Antrim has a unionist majority, you cretin. Most of northern Ireland's counties were always majority Irish nationalist. Forced into a state which was built on gerrymandering through threats of terrorism and genocide.

@NorthernIrishman

5 жыл бұрын

So then what happens to the Northern Irish?

@brendantownsend216

5 жыл бұрын

The majority of Northern Irish want Ireland to be a Republic

@JMBPro

5 жыл бұрын

Brendan Townsend that's bullshit, I think Ireland should leave us alone

Northern Ireland voted to remain. That would seem to be an important element going forward

@SkyEcho7

5 жыл бұрын

👍

@drumnykerne1

5 жыл бұрын

Northern ireland is part of the united kingdom and will leave the eu.

@Ystadcop

5 жыл бұрын

But totally ignored by Treeza.

@ToonandBBfan

5 жыл бұрын

*David Wilmot* That's like saying your because football team was winning 1-0 at half time then lost 2-1 at full time - that they "weren't really beaten"

@setyeva0

5 жыл бұрын

@Peepoday there is no UK, there is only team GB

Northern brothers, we won't leave you behind. Rejoin us.

@ShaneDGri

5 жыл бұрын

"Northern brothers, we won't leave you behind AGAIN. Rejoin us" There you go, fixed it for you. You can thank me later. As for the statement it remains to be seen if Leo will be true to his word when he said No Dublin Government would leave Northern Nationalists behind again. Won't hold be holding my breath for fear I'd turn as blue as those famed FG shirts I have heard so much about.🤣

@radu1337

5 жыл бұрын

Shane Gribben why do you say that? Was Ireland inside the EU before the UK? Because that’s what he means, not leave you behind outside of the EU.

@ShaneDGri

5 жыл бұрын

@@radu1337 it's a reference to the partition of Ireland and how successive governments in Dublin pretended that the Irish Citizens living in NI didn't exist.

@Mac_an_Mheiriceanaigh

5 жыл бұрын

Ioan-Radu Tanasescu a lot of people here (Ireland) think the rest of Ireland should not have accepted independence without the whole island. They think the choice to accept the peace offer instead of keep fighting for the whole island was effectively leaving behind the Irish in the North. Although its easy to see why prolonging war would have been bad, it is hard to imagine that Ireland could not have achieved independence in its entirety if it had waited.

@fionnualamurray1356

5 жыл бұрын

Shane Gribben "Northen brothers and SISTERS, we won't leave you behind AGAIN. Rejoin us. " Fixed it for both of you. No thanks necessary.

It's only a matter of time

@eoghanfinnegan6119

5 жыл бұрын

@R A it's probably going to happen, England won't be interested in carrying the parasite that is NI post brexit .

@NorthernIrishman

5 жыл бұрын

Time for what?

@NorthernIrishman

5 жыл бұрын

Time for the Irish to finally leave the Northern Irish people alone? Yes I agree :)

@McCRBen

5 жыл бұрын

.. before there is a United 32 County Ireland. Or maybe we’ll take turns, so the geographical name of the two islands instead of the ‘British Isles’ for the next thousand years will be called, geographically of course, the Irish Isles. www.ordnancesurvey.co.uk/blog/2011/08/whats-the-difference-between-uk-britain-and-british-isles/

I hope Ireland becomes united

@ddha0000

5 жыл бұрын

you hope for civil war? what a idiot you must be.

@NorthernIrishman

5 жыл бұрын

So then what would happen to the Northern Irish?

@amysands8925

5 жыл бұрын

Its a reality.

@KianOhaganTAL

5 жыл бұрын

Jethro Beatz it would fade out not straight away but would slowly fade away

@matthewschlesinger9156

5 жыл бұрын

Even if that were to happen, much of our culture in the North would be erased. We have some similarities with Catholics here in the North as well as in the ROI but honestly, I believe our own culture would be erased. My opinion however.

referendum soon for NI and Scotland !

a single united Irish republic Is indisputably a good thing 1 country two cultures we can do it.

@archieblair8728

5 жыл бұрын

Foolishness borne out of ignorance. If it's the well being of the proletariat you care about the answer is a United Ireland within the United Kingdom. The people of the Republic of Ireland voted in a referendum to leave the European Union remember?

@mjw12345

5 жыл бұрын

No,they did not vote to leave! Get a life! They rejected the Lisbon Treaty because of some provisions. Respectful negotiations, all the Irish objections were addressed, another referendum and a big majority yes! Now 92% positive for the EU in Ireland, this great continent that we have had rich connections with for 1600 years and was an enduring refuge for Irish people suffering under a murderous occupation by England.

@archieblair8728

5 жыл бұрын

sbranagh1 Nope they voted to leave. The Irish political class much like the British are trying now, forced a second referendum, the completely in democratic European Soviet threw shed loads of tax payers money at it and unfortunately the Irish voter fell for it to their shame. The Republic of Ireland will get a second chance though with Brexit. Next time they will leave. All of the Southern European countries will soon leave too.

@thetroyzernator

5 жыл бұрын

@@archieblair8728 I'm Irish. We didn't vote to leave. There has never been a European exit referendum in Ireland and there's no desire for one.

@guleiro

5 жыл бұрын

@@archieblair8728 You are an idiot and you should be quiet. No one here even talks about Brexit, let alone to leave the EU. Regards from Southern Europe.

I’d love a United ireland

As a UK resident I think NI joining back with the South would be good for them.

@James-sk4db

5 жыл бұрын

as a NI resident you can fuck off, maybe the south should rejoin us instead, theres no reason one government of the british isles wouldnt work, and the south is a mess at the moment with their replacement plan

@MrCornbread79

5 жыл бұрын

James the south is a mess wtf is the north then.Millions of taxes wasted every year because the orange marches vandalism and an economy that's survives 50% off public service jobs.

@James-sk4db

5 жыл бұрын

yeah the north is a mess but the Uk on the whole is less of a mess than the south

@zyxw2024

5 жыл бұрын

It will come. Ireland. Scotland. Wales. That UK thing will abate. England.

@kotare86

5 жыл бұрын

The most northern point on the island of Ireland is not actually in Northern Ireland but in the Republic of Ireland. So "southern" Ireland sounds a bit strange.

As a Scot and a proud Brit I'd love to see a united Ireland 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🇬🇧🇮🇪

Ireland going post-Catholic is a massive step towards reunification.

@Grmario85

5 жыл бұрын

What a foolish comment. Ireland is very Catholic. Just because it became reasonable and modern doesn't make it post catholic. I have been to many Catholic countries and they never had anti-abortion, anti-divorce, state-control Catholicism. And they're still catholic.

@solidus784

5 жыл бұрын

Beaverhousen www.irishnews.com/news/2017/09/05/news/record-low-for-new-seminarians-in-maynooth-s-222-year-history-1127782/ hmmmmmmmmm?

@Ystadcop

5 жыл бұрын

A very serious post. Food for thought, thanks.

5 жыл бұрын

England deciding to commit suicide is a massive step towards reunification. Fuck those proddy unionist parasites we can build enough prisons to hold them all if necessary.

5 жыл бұрын

I say your incoherent babble is a sign that you're off your meds.

Liberate Celtic lands from Anglo-Saxon occupation.

Cymru Am Byth !... Independent Wales too !..... the feudal past is gone all countries should retain and regain their original sovereignty..... Love the Irish, awesome people and the Scots !.... Celts together !!!

@MeAndTheBoys_

2 жыл бұрын

Absolutely, Wales needs to gain total independence too. And then Scots leave the UK as well. England wants to be alone, so be it 👍

An island that is IRELAND. 32 counties/IRELAND

@billwillis5732

5 жыл бұрын

Wrong its Eire Ireland is a English spelling but then most Irish use the word Ireland as they can only speak the queens English . why would that be .

@zyxw2024

5 жыл бұрын

Yes, it is Eire. queen's English? lol Because the English language was imposed/forced on the Irish during the 8 centuries of English occupying the island, suppressing, oppressing, repressing, Eire & it's people.

@billwillis5732

5 жыл бұрын

BS my great grandparents from the Shankill rd according to the 1911 census was fluent in the irish language and both where protestant , leaving the UK in 1922 , 96 years later and still speaking the queens English . they should be ashamed .

@zyxw2024

5 жыл бұрын

What is Bull Shit in your head from what I've said? "An island that is IRELAND. 32 counties/IRELAND" "Yes, it is Eire. queen's English? lol Because the English language was imposed/forced on the Irish during the 8 centuries of English occupying the island, suppressing, oppressing, repressing, Eire & it's people." Stay on your soapbox a far distance from me. UGH!

@billwillis5732

4 жыл бұрын

26 counties full of so called refugees brought in by the EU . Take a walk along the liffey but not after dark , take a walk through Longford and find an Irish man or even find a Irish man who speaks Irish more speak Polish and Chinese . Eire is long gone their either pissed drinking fluoride water or taking Prozac .

Congratulations England as you leave one union you risk your union! So Ironic!

@englishciderlover7347

5 жыл бұрын

Let's hope the British 'union' does come to an end. There's nothing in it for the people of England. Only the politicians benefit from it.

@choughed3072

5 жыл бұрын

@@englishciderlover7347 yep, the Scots, welsh and the irish apparently hate the English so what have we got to lose in a united kingdom break up.

@stephenwright8824

4 жыл бұрын

Britain herself was established on a dodge to get the Scots to help the English keep on having wars against France. And the Papal Bull of Adrian IV, granting Ireland to England, has since been acknowledged by the Vatican to be a forgery. Good feckin' riddance.

I am a Presbyterian who was born in Belfast city hospital. I grew up in Lisburn, just outside Belfast. All of my fathers family were orange men, and, as a child, my summers were spent touring various parts of Antrim and Down, listening to 'the sash' played over and over again on the flute! I always thought of myself as unionist back then, however, after moving to, first Dublin, then Kilkenny, I found that there is no difference between the people in the Republic and people like me. I love living down here. After giving careful consideration, and in the context of the Brexit debacle, I have found myself hoping that Northern Ireland either becomes its own little independent state, in the EU, or that the Republic and Northern Ireland come together and create a new European country.

We don't want to be apart of the UK. Still trying to hang on to a bit of Ireland, stop clinging onto something where you're not wanted

@mw01908

5 жыл бұрын

Who is we? You are outnumbered by those who like being part of the UK.

@firnacraibhe9160

5 жыл бұрын

@@mw01908 "You are outnumbered by those who like being part of the UK. " Not for much longer. Demographics & time. (Tick - Tock).

@mw01908

5 жыл бұрын

@@firnacraibhe9160 joining the Republic means lower standards of living on everything, terrible Irish water not fit to drink and always on boil notices, no more free healthcare, expensive goods and services, and expensive food. Property values will dive and businesses and jobs will disappear. Dublin will never fund NI like London do. NI will not vote to be worse off.

@irishrepublican3739

3 жыл бұрын

mw01908 the problem with that is the Irish government is corrupt. FF and FG need to get out of office as there ruining our country

i'm english and have never seen a valid reason against a united ireland if wanted by the whole of the irish people. In this current political climate i would go further now and say if the price of a clean brexit is a united ireland i would be very pro united ireland. to me and my simplistic view of the world and britain/n.ireland/europe in particular its a case of 'Britain and out' or 'United Ireland and in'. If the northern irish people/political class wish to remain in europe then they have a stark choice of a united Ireland. we will still be neighbours and we will both move on under a new arrangement - not the end of the world. Just like the brits and europe. If we remain we get the benefit of europe (and the constraints) and it's right we should get no special benefit if we leave (but greater freedom to choose our own constraints). why we have to over complicate matters is beyond me (other than groups with vested interests, human greed and a romantic sense of history etc etc).

@ddha0000

5 жыл бұрын

um..............scotland also voted to remain, so wouldn't you then support an independent scotland. london voted remain as well and other cities so by your logic, they should also get their independence. You haven't thought this one through have you. the people of northern ireland are british and want to remain british above all else. add to this that brexit is an absolute sham and will simply not work, its time for another vote after we get a deal presented to accept it or reject it and remain in the EU.

@pauljohnson1891

5 жыл бұрын

Great response. Thanks for not jumping to conclusions regarding my comment. But lets say you did….. I tend to stick to the topic in question and not diverge so I was commenting on the video not the whole Brexit/union independence issue but as you brought it up I am happy to respond. So lets break this down. The UK & Northern Ireland Union (+ cities) Firstly - Southern Ireland is also in the collection of islands known as the british isles but they are not governed by the UK union. Nations through our short history change for various reasons just because something was it does not follow something has to be forever. Secondly before brexit even raised its head I was of the mind if any part of the union wished to become independent (Scotland, Wales, Gibraltar, Falkland's…..) that is a matter for them and if a clear majority expressed that then I would not have an issue. I would not go on a war of words or guns to preserve a union they clearly do not want. As for cities… Cities within a sovereign nation is a different matter when discussing independence as they have never been independent states joining a nation (okay maybe in the depths of history as with Spain and Italy). But I agree this is not something i have thought of greatly. That said Singapore is a city state so city states can survive on their own. Now Brexit and our UK Union I’ve never really liked the EU federal approach but have had the good grace to just get on with it. When I was given the choice I voted with the majority - no mud slinging for me. I accept initial years will be hard financially but as grown up nations we will all survive and I believe the uk (or even england if we are left alone) will prosper. I am not saying n.ireland must leave the UK because they wish to remain in the eu. However going back to my view on the UK union if the n.irish people change their opinion on irish unification as a result of wishing to remain in Europe then fine I have no bones - I am not signed up to a UK union made up of nations forced to remain. Given n.ireland looks to be a sticking point for my wish for a clean Brexit if ireland were to unite I think that is great for them and me. From what I have read a hard border between n.ireland and Ireland would have to exists for a clean Brexit and that is the main driving force for the pro-union n.irish to change their opinion to unify with the south. We all get what we want in respect of eu and brexit. (edit: by 'we' i mean the majority - and as for the vote to leave the eu it didn't state leave in part or stay in part as for the rhetoric on benefits and disadvantages of leaving or staying they were just opinions to sway our vote - we would be foolish to believe politicians even if it is what we wanted to hear)

@IgnoresTrolls

5 жыл бұрын

@@ddha0000 The people of N. Ireland aren't British. They aren't in Britain. The very nature of the term The UK or The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland to give it it's full title shows that Northern Ireland is not Britain. A large portion of people there identify as British, but it's more like New Yorkers calling themselves Italian. I'm happy for them to do it, especially since the term UKish sounds silly, but that doesn't mean all the people of Northern Ireland are British.

@pauljohnson1891

5 жыл бұрын

@ spinler muckflitt.....exactly my point . once that reason is removed I can see no other reason why Ireland should not unify. Brexit, from my understanding of the video, appears to be shifting pro-union opinion to pro-unification. however, for me, fear of irish unification is not reason enough to stop a clean Brexit. The uk is leaving the eu and n.irish can follow the uk with the clear mandate to leave the eu, or, remain in the eu through irish unification.

@ddha0000

5 жыл бұрын

um................the nationality of someone from the UK is called British, the whole region including the republic of Ireland and all the small islands is call the 'British Isles'. Also, if you are from British overseas territories you are also British. On your passport you are British. Not very hard to understand matey.

How could this English man know what Irish people think,they never did The DUP have no interest in the Good Friday Agreement, I have watched the Brexit debates in Westminster and not once did they mention the agreement.

From what I understand of the English I don't think there'd be too many tears shed if Northern Ireland left the UK. Surely the real reason for this is to prevent the DUP from losing seats and May losing her majority?

@Mac_an_Mheiriceanaigh

5 жыл бұрын

Good point

@songhbahel967

5 жыл бұрын

@R A ok so there are no more canals to be dug but who will build ur hs2.....

@ddha0000

5 жыл бұрын

well, considering northern ireland have the smartest and most well educated population in the UK and many whom pepper the UK doing high up jobs, that is a resource you would be an idiot to lose. but, you do sound like an idiot so go right ahead.

@PaulMuzik

5 жыл бұрын

There is more people on benefits in the UK than there is NI you fucking moron hahahaha

@songhbahel967

5 жыл бұрын

@R A yeah but you are all plumbers by all accounts & running back home before UK hits the Brexit buffers.

Scotland voted to stay in the UK to keep EU relationship but now that Brexit happens, this gives Scots stronger reason to be independent and Norther Irish to be united to the Republic of Ireland

Ireland for the Irish!

@NorthernIrishman

5 жыл бұрын

So you want a civil war to happen then?

@roberthonan3492

5 жыл бұрын

It would not be a civil war. It would be the completion of the Irish Revolution. The Irish may have surrendered their arms, but they still sing "My Little Armalite."

@NorthernIrishman

5 жыл бұрын

@@roberthonan3492 You're delusional, if you really think that's gonna happen then what'll happen to the Northern Irish?

@roberthonan3492

5 жыл бұрын

Then they will just be the Northern part of Éire. If the UK creates any sort of border controls at all on the border with Éire, they will have abandoned the Good Friday Agreement, and should immediately begin the reunification process. The Irish have been clear since the Treaty that ultimately, reunification was the only acceptable result. Both the UK and Éire being in the EU provided enough of a functional reunification to make the Good Friday Agreement possible.

@NorthernIrishman

5 жыл бұрын

@@roberthonan3492 So you would get rid of an existing country (Northern Ireland) and get rid of the people who identity as Northern Irish?

There is overwhelming evidence that the English people who voted for Brexit do not, on the whole, care about the United Kingdom and in particular do not care about that part of it called Northern Ireland. Asked in the recent Future of England survey whether “the unravelling of the peace process in Northern Ireland” was a “price worth paying” for Brexit that allows them to “take back control”, fully 83% of leave voters and 73% of Conservative voters in England agreed that it was. Three-quarters of English leave voters said they did not want their taxes to be used to subsidise public services in Northern Ireland. A recent major Channel 4 survey, asked how they would feel if “Brexit leads to Northern Ireland leaving the UK and joining the Republic of Ireland”, 61% of leave voters said they would be “not very concerned” or “not at all concerned”.These are two seismic shifts. Neither of them is caused by anyone in Ireland. They are products of the rise of English nationalism and of the great Brexit upheaval that has left Britain so deeply uncertain about its identity and its place in the world.

GREAT SUPPORT FOR: United Ireland, Republic of Scotland and Wales republic. DOWN with Great England and their nationalism!

@samuelgreen546

5 жыл бұрын

I don't see it happening for Wales, they're not self-sufficient enough.

@NorthernIrishman

5 жыл бұрын

Down with great Britain and their nationalism? Do you realise how hypocritical that sounds? How about down with nationalism in Northern Ireland.

@bigjavo36

5 жыл бұрын

Yeah nah wales you stuck with England for the long haul. But Scotland and ulster are currently packing their shit and heading for the door

@NorthernIrishman

5 жыл бұрын

@@bigjavo36 I'm from Northern Ireland and I'm not going anywhere

@Paul5520

5 жыл бұрын

I liked your comment until I seen the last sentence, if they like that sort of stuff let them off to do it

🇮🇪 Free Ireland 🇮🇪

United Ireland now!! Portuguese here waiting for a united Ireland to visit your lovely UK free island :)

Whatever border town he claims to have grown up in, he did stay there for very long. That's a toffee accent that would give Borris a run for his money.

@vercoda9997

5 жыл бұрын

Sam Watters Not everyone attains the accent or local speech mannerisms of the place they’re from. You do know that, right? It’s entirely possible to spend your entire life in a place with a heavy accent, yet avoid it completely for a variety of reasons.

@archieblair8728

5 жыл бұрын

Racist.

@Sdakouls3

5 жыл бұрын

It's a fake accent. He wants to be accepted by his upper class British idols. Pathetic, really.

@bogboy90210

5 жыл бұрын

Ver Coda ya, pretentious phonies.

5 жыл бұрын

His toffee accent fails though, the sad failsack.

The UK has a choice after Brexit.Give the Irish the vote on leaving the UK or the troubles will return simple as that

@stephenwright8824

4 жыл бұрын

Before BJ got back in at Number Ten, the fact that surprised me was that it wasn't Britain threatening a hard border, but the EU themselves.

"I didn't interupt you !".... 2 minutes later, interupts him countless times....

why shouldn't they unite? there is no reason to stay in the UK if it comes with the price of a hard border

@tonyholohan2847

5 жыл бұрын

A soft border means no border.....

@NorthernIrishman

5 жыл бұрын

Because maybe the majority of us prefer being with the UK because of the benefits that we have? Not to mention that we're Northern Irish not Irish due to the mixture of both British and Irish ancestry over the past couple of centuries.

@firnacraibhe9160

5 жыл бұрын

@@NorthernIrishman "Not to mention that we're Northern Irish not Irish" - ah, but we're NOT all Northern Irish up here, now are we?

THe guy in the pink grew up on the border but has a home counties accent hahahaha

5 жыл бұрын

A ghastly fake version which only shows him up as a living joke.

If DUP are so confident then support a referendum to prove themselves right.... actions speak louder than words

I bet when the British government partitioned Ireland almost 100 years ago, against the democratic wishes of the Irish people who had just voted for a independent 32 county Irish Republic - the original IREXIT, I bet they never thought it would come back and bite them on the arse.

@shriramvenu

4 жыл бұрын

"against the democratic wishes of the Irish people"?! Are you seriously suggesting that the majority protestant population of ulster wanted to be ruled from Dublin when their opposition is precisely what torpedoed the original "Home Rule" devolution plan that would have kept the whole of Ireland in the UK, and ultimately led to the Irish civil war?

@Ash-uv2ck

4 жыл бұрын

@@shriramvenu you mean the protestant population that was put there by England in the first place. I dont give a shit about Religion it's stupid. It causes too many fights and too many wars.

Irish reunification! Scottish Independence! Welsh Independence! Dissolve The Union!

@iordanneDiogeneslucas

3 жыл бұрын

What about cornwall?

The Irish border is the sea, it's the British border in Ireland, that's your PROBLEM

Lots of good comments here. Personally, I think the language is really interesting. If, in 200 years' time, Northern Ireland is still part of the UK, I reckon the terms 'United Ireland' and 'partition' will still be used in public discourse. Compare this with a scenario where the island of Ireland were to become united: those terms might gradually disappear, along with the phrase 'Northern Ireland' itself. Giving a concept a name gives it life, and prompts people to imagine that concept - the the greatest example of this is the name 'Brexit'.

@Tonydjjokerit

5 жыл бұрын

I agree Ronan! I see it in my Tarot cards that the UK will break up and all the nations of the UK will be back in the EU in 7 years.England will be on it's knees then

The DUP's "heads in the sand, nothing to see here" approach will ultimately be the undoing of the union.

Montgomery: I didn't interrupt you! Proceeds to interrupt at every turn. Look at his body language arms folded legs crossed (closed isolated not even listening) eyes blinking (lying).

The former Secretary of State of was spot on here, the other guy hasn’t a clue

In a popular vote, the massive population of England so outweighs that of Northern Ireland, Scotland and Wales that a small majority of England overwhelms the rest of the UK. That isn't how you manage the democratic process in a union. It has only worked for the last several hundred years because of the threat of military action by England. That threat no longer works, England is not going to invade Scotland should they declare independence nor Northern Ireland should they unify with the Republic. The only way forward for the United Kingdom is to adopt a model like that of, eg, Canada, where provinces actually get some real say in how the nation is run. A referendum like Brexit could not have happened in Canada, ignoring the results from smaller population provinces. When there is a major constitutional issue, the component states of the United Kingdom need to have their voices heard or the union will not last.

We live in the 21st century, the time is ripe to see the unification of Ireland.

70% of brexit voters would give up the good friday agreement to push brexit home and leave the EU. That is some scary sh it.

I was wondering about this, the only way to avoid a border in Ireland is to either keep the UK in the EU or for Ireland to reunite and leave the UK.

@robertoorsi3203

5 жыл бұрын

The whole of Ireland could join the UK.

@ddha0000

5 жыл бұрын

that would lead to civil war you idiot. hence why there will never be a united ireland, the south removed it from their constitution because they know it would bring turmoil.

@ddha0000

5 жыл бұрын

ireland was never a colony, it was part of the union. also, the UK bailed out the republic after the banking crisis, i guess times have changed. the UK a world leader in so many great western ideologies that i don't understand why anyone would not want to be part of it. a tolerant multicultural society who has turned its back on man made religion to become a country run mostly by the human spirit.

@ddha0000

5 жыл бұрын

when the whole of ireland was part of the UK, they were part of the union, not a colony, they were part of the nation that was the United Kingdom as was Scotland, Wales and England. it had representatives at Westminster, therefore NOT a colony. a colony is a region under control by a foreign power who have no representation in central government......eg. India, Caribbean region, Australia, etc etc.

@albedoshader

5 жыл бұрын

A referendum on unification is one of the options in the GFA.

America loves the Irish not so much the English.

@sodaking6858

5 жыл бұрын

@Slater Slater its true tho fuck sake outside the UK literally every other country likes Ireland more then england

@purplewyrd4779

4 жыл бұрын

The Irish love the Americans. They never stop going on about how great Americans are.

There must be an All-Ireland Citizens' Assembly to negotiate a blueprint for a united Ireland and an all-Ireland referendum on Irish unity. The Irish people should not wait or beg for a border poll from a country that is ignorant has long dismissed their grievances.

For the DUP, politics is very simple. "The answer is "NO!!!" Now what's the question?"

"I didn't interrupt you" Then he starts interrupting the other guy nonstop -_-

Fella on the right at the end there is the complete definition of a tan.

I have a question. When it is said there was no evidence for irish reunification besides the poll that showed what if brexit happened in a certain way, was there another poll carried out about public opinion right now? Or is he just saying there is no evidence because they didnt bother to gather any evidence with another poll about curent opinion right now. Which would technically be cheekily correct in saying there is no evidence but in a disingenuous fashion also. Which is it? Let the people have their say.

@JustChris22xx

5 жыл бұрын

He is honestly just being pedantic over semantics of the data which is that there is no evidence for an explicit affirmation that the people of NI want to leave. The reason for this is that a border poll has not been taken despite political pressure. So if a border poll was allowed then we would actually have an idea of where the people's sentiments lie. Furthermore, the DUP have actively prevented a border poll from being released. Soooo essentially he is just sticking his fingers in his ears saying 'no evidence, no evidence' when actually there very well could be. A hard border is catastrophic for NI because of the troubles there is such little investment in the region it could be liable for economic collapse if a hard brexit is implemented. If I were from NI I would seriously consider casting off the chains of the union if that were the case. What is even more ironic is the DUP calling for closer alinement with UK but perfer differential treatment when it comes to marraige equality, abortion and applying for a lower tax rate. Historically speaking, the UK don't give two shits about NI and have rarely really acted or implemented policies for long term investment. What the secretary of state has done is pretty unjust.. NI needs functional representation going forward namely a bloody parliament so that they can suss things out. Currently the voice leading the charge on Brexit in NI is the DUP who honestly don't have a mandate on the topic.

I can’t see that anyone has anything to fear from a final rejection of English colonialism by a neighbour like Ireland. God bless everyone on the island...may you ever live in peace and prosperity as a proud nation at long last.

It amazes me that gb are relinquishing the eu and all the perks that go with it, yet they won't give up northern Ireland. Now I'm from here and i don't think we have more to offer than the eu

A united Ireland and an independent Scotland! You have such proud heritage it's time for independence. Wales too although I don't know how likely that is.

He blinks so much. So so much.

@milesknos

5 жыл бұрын

🤣 and Mairtin hates blinking.

The way that Montgomery guy was blocking that Hain guy when he was mentioning the hard border was just pathetic. Complete delusion of “we can have our cake and eat it” at it’s best. Refusing to acknowledge the international regulations and agreements on land borders is insulting to everyone who has a brain.

yes....respect the will of the people but not in NI.....let me guess the EU will be blamed for this too

How weird must it be for the former First Minister of Northern Ireland to sit beside and listen to that conspirical brexit gombeen?

United Ireland is an independent country, Scotland is also an independent country!

Because the rest of the UK didn't give a seconds thought about the impact of Northern Ireland's unique position in the Brexit debacle it has served to accelerate the prospect of the reunification of Ireland.

DUP is scared of a unification of Ireland !

@mactoirdealbhaigh7624

5 жыл бұрын

Understatement of the year!

the fall of the united kingdom in honestly the funniest netflix special ever. #loveyoubelgium #continentalfam #bye Oh and Ireland deff gon be one country in at least 10 years

love the body language crossed arms all defensive....people here in NI dont give a toss about the politicians, we are on our own and have been for decades

The only real issue here is the British media. 42 years of hateful media headlines depicting the EU in the worst possible light, so no wonder the UK wants to get away from the EU as soon as possible. Almost every Brit expat I have ever met in the EU cannot relate to the negative attitudes in the UK about the EU. 96% or so of Gibraltar voted to remain. That is the general attitude here on the continent. Yet if you visit the UK you will meet so many brexiters your head will spin. Everything was fine in NI until Brexit came along.

Brexit may well lead to a united Ireland. Kevin Bradley's appointment as Northern Ireland Secretary destroys the fiction that Great Britain values Northern Ireland.

I am at a loss to work out what is wrong with a united Ireland if that is what the Irish want. If the people of NI want to remain part of the EU then let them show it at the ballot box in a referendum on re-unification of Ireland. We voted to leave the EU and I am getting sick and tired of Wankers like Hain using this as a reason to stop a democratic decision. If the people of NI want to remain part of the U.K then they need to accept we are leaving the EU.

@ddha0000

5 жыл бұрын

well, actually, after all this nonsense, the majority of British people do not want to leave the EU now, time for another vote i think.

@LouiseAnnHalliday

5 жыл бұрын

Mr.Bubbles I have not changed my mind on the EU and others I know have not changed their mind either. I do believe democracy still exists in the UK though, just. Although idiots like Peter Hain are starting to make me think otherwise.

@ddha0000

5 жыл бұрын

the whole thing was flawed anyway, any vote should have to have won at least 60% for a clear win, 52/48 is too close. also, the lies told during the campaign on both sides and the law breaking campaign finances make it null and void for me. add to this, i don't think anyone over the age of 65 should be allowed to vote, this vote will effect younger people more, it should be their decision. the fact that a 95 year could vote but a 16/17 year old whose whole life would be affected could not, it ludicrous and undemocratic.

@mw01908

5 жыл бұрын

Craig, but its not what the Irish want I'm sick of it being said that it is. I suggest you ask the majority of Irish people in northern Ireland that support NI being part of the UK and enjoying all the benefits that the UK brings it. N.I. is certainly more prosperous than the areas south of the border.

@mw01908

5 жыл бұрын

Bubbles, that is crazy talk. The young will be reaping the benefits of life outside and free of the EU, whereas the 95 year old will not. The young should be thanking the 95 year olds for securing their future. Besides, you do not seem to understand democracy. The voting age has always been 18 why should we change it just to suit you because you lost. In terms of votes 52/48 is a pretty good margin. If the result was the other way around I doubt you would be complaining. You can be assured that if leave lost there would NEVER be the amount of bitching and attempts to overturn the vote as you lot have been doing.

So basically Mr. Montgomery was just there to say Brexit hasn't gone bad enough so relax?

Napolean said: when the enemy is fucking up - leave them to it! (Paraphrased). Sinn Fein sitting back with plenty popcorn!

I'm Canadian but all my family is from the UK this saddens me

I live so far from Ireland and Britain that the political machinations and the practical implications of the UK leaving the EU don't affect me. But, last time I checked the world was still home to all of us, and I do have a fairly significant connection to Ireland in that I was born there. So, when Britain voted to leave Europe, my thoughts immediately turned to 1) how Norn Arn voted and 2) the effect the outcome would have on NI and the Republic*. That Northern Ireland's vote was a healthy 12 points in favour of remaining only complicates matters. Obviously I'd like to see a united Ireland. I have to acknowledge the role that my upbringing, even 11000 miles away, plays in that view. It's been tempered somewhat by the independence that moved religion into the margin and then off the page altogether. I could only be in favour of a united Ireland if the people of Northern Ireland were overwhelmingly in favour. Failing overwhelming, two-thirds. That tends to be the Westminsterian benchmark for overwhelming. It's hard to escape the idea, if not fact, that Leave voters were sold a lie. More money in your pocket, fewer immigrants. The detail scant, largely because it was bollocks, the Leave campaign one of the basest exercises in political opportunism I've ever seen. Both Ireland & Northern Ireland deserve to prosper. I can think of no moment in my lifetime in which discrete groups with such long-held animosity walked their talk on laying down arms and seeking non-violent, political solutions to problems. That is the kind of 'behaviour' that deserves respect and reward. I have vivid memories of crossing the border, more militarized and frightening than any I've seen before or since, including USA/Mexico. When you consider how much has been achieved in Northern Ireland in the last two decades, it's of critical importance that whatever happens with regard to leaving the EU, Ireland can't go back to a horrible physical barrier.

@sandraadams811

5 жыл бұрын

To demand a two thirds majority is to rewrite the good Friday agreement. That agreement states that a democratic majority is all that is required. After all 50. 01% would have been enough for the English to leave the European Union. In fact the percentage to leave was not much more than that.

A united Ireland makes sense to me. All I see is your difference in what church you go to to worship something that does not exist. Stop being exploited by the England.

@ddha0000

5 жыл бұрын

to be fair, most of england is funded by the south, so rally what you should be saying is that the south of england funds the rest of the UK, but of course, it is only that way because government after government has spent more money in the south to create such an imbalance and of course our financial industry which is full of dirty money.

@NorthernIrishman

5 жыл бұрын

Clearly you've never been to Northern Ireland then if you can't tell the difference.

@ttrons2

5 жыл бұрын

If that is true why don't the English separate form them. Same BS of blaming someone different for problems

@NorthernIrishman

5 жыл бұрын

@@ttrons2 What do you mean?

@craigtomkinson8766

5 жыл бұрын

The first Irish republican Woolfe Tone was a protestant

Ireland would be a better place united this could be great for Ireland

If a united Ireland does come about I hope they find the lady who said "the Southern Irish are just going to have to lump it" and interview her again.

Its not reunification, its independence .

@NorthernIrishman

5 жыл бұрын

It's more like an invasion to be honest, conquering; enslavement if a United Ireland would happen

@taintabird23

5 жыл бұрын

How will enslavement occur in a United Ireland that can only come about by consent?

@NorthernIrishman

5 жыл бұрын

@@taintabird23 Because the protestant communities will never accept this United Ireland and will feel enslaved under this Irish rule, the Irish can say "oh you're welcome here" but what they're really saying is, "we're gonna take over your country, change your currency, make you pay for things you didn't have to originally and call you Irish, and you have to find someway to be ok with that; oh but don't worry you're welcome in our country". I don't see that as welcoming, I see it as invading.

@taintabird23

5 жыл бұрын

Actually, what they are saying is that through processes agreed in the Belfast Agreement, and triggered through the consent of the majority, a new united Ireland and federal Ireland will come into being. I'm sure there will be people in the Republic who will not be happy with sacred cows being slaughtered in order to accommodate unionists too- but they will have to live with it and we will have to live with them. That's democracy, I guess.

@NorthernIrishman

5 жыл бұрын

@@taintabird23 it will never happen, Northern Ireland is Northern Irish not Irish

This was a muddle, although at least for once Emily Matliss was a bit more sensitive with the subject matter. Peter Hain is correct that people in Northern Ireland are unsettled by the thought of a border, but as terrible as the border would be for trade, it is far worse in emotional terms for people who identify with the whole island as their home. The Good Friday Agreement provided an accommodation for this, and it will be ruptured by a border. Christopher Montgomery appears tone deaf to this. Peter Hain was misleading with his information on trading though: sales from NI to Ireland (£4BN) account for 5% of everything they sell, 15% of all external sales and 35% of all exports. GB is by far the biggest market (£14BN )at 56% of all external sales and 19% of all sales. He was correct about the importance of the Assembly meeting. I doubt that any poll at the moment would be an accurate reflection of how people would vote in a border poll. When asked (prior to Brexit) whether they would prefer to be governed from Dublin, Westminster or the Assembly, 60% chose the Assembly with 20% for each of the other options. If only their politicians could understand that what they have is what the people want. The polticians are a disgrace. I'd love to hear the Sinn Fein representative set out the benefits of being in the EU given that their sudden support for the EU is one of the great surprises of the last few years. In reality, the most important issue is to have a united *Northern* Ireland, and without that it is pointless talking about a united Ireland. Peter Hain was correct about the importance of taking forward the process. Reconciliation has barely started, but despite that 70% of people in NI believe their best years are ahead of them - good to see they are postiive in the midst of this mess.

@mjw12345

5 жыл бұрын

Excellent post! I can't access info right now but "sales from NI to Ireland (£4BN) account for 5% of everything they sell.." -I doubt NI exports £80BN?

@AJ-le4wb

5 жыл бұрын

@@mjw12345 You're correct. They export £11.4 BN. Total *sales* overall - internal to NI, to the rest of the UK, exports - sit at around £76 BN so it would appear that NI trades mostly internally to NI. I hope this means they are self-sufficient for food given the Brexit scare stories! The detail is in one of the files below (can't guarantee my maths is 100%). www.nisra.gov.uk/publications/eu-exit-analysis-publications

@rhyfelaherwfilwrol6732

5 жыл бұрын

A J : Peter Hain said that Northern Ireland exports more to the Republic than "any other country". The full name of the country "GB", is the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, in other words, NI is in the same country as GB. Exports are goods and services which are sold outside of your own country, 35% of Northern Irish exports go to the Republic of Ireland, which is more than any other country. _"When asked (prior to Brexit) "_ Yes but now it looks like Britain will withdraw without agreement and that the border will close, that preference may change. Clearly the British Government believe that if an election were held now in NI it would show a clear swing in public opinion, triggering a referendum on unification and the break up of the UK; otherwise why suspend the elections? _"sudden support for the EU is one of the great surprises"_ Sinn Féin have always been in support of Ireland's membership of the EU and believe EU membership has been good for Ireland, although they are critical of some aspects of the EU that does not mean that they are, or have been anti-EU. The reality is most British people do not understand or know anything about Ireland, they are unable to understand the effect a no deal Brexit will have on the Island of Britain let alone the Island of Ireland, that progress on reconciliation you talk so highly of is being thrown away by the current British Government and positivity has been replaced by deep uncertainty and concern for the future. There is of course one thing that the majority in Northern Ireland agree on, the current border arrangements must remain in place, if the UK is unable to agree to the EU's Irish Border backstop proposal and the border closes it will be highly likely that a Majority will favour unification, whether or not you think it's pointless to talk about it.

@AJ-le4wb

5 жыл бұрын

rhyfela herwfilwrol - Peter Hain said that Northern Ireland exports more to the Republic than "any other country". The full name of the country "GB", is the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, in other words, NI is in the same country as GB. Exports are goods and services which are sold outside of your own country, 35% of Northern Irish exports go to the Republic of Ireland, which is more than any other country Yes, I know. That is why I used different language when referring to GB (external sales i.e. external to NI). His point was not balanced because he limited his point to exports while ignoring the much larger market with the rest of the UK. - "When asked (prior to Brexit) " Yes but now it looks like Britain will withdraw without agreement and that the border will close, that preference may change. I know. That's why I put 'prior to Brexit' in brackets to show that was the position before the vote, and that did not mean the response would be the same now. This interests me though. Did the people in NI not realise when they voted that there would be a border installed if the UK voted to leave the EU? If they did - as they appear to now - why was the remain vote not higher? Why is this new infomation to them? - "sudden support for the EU is one of the great surprises" Sinn Féin have always been in support of Ireland's membership of the EU and believe EU membership has been good for Ireland, although they are critical of some aspects of the EU that does not mean that they are, or have been anti-EU. Happy to stand corrected as I am sure you have a better understanding of SInn Fein than I would, but your former Ambassador to the UK held a different view when explaining the NI Brexit vote. - The reality is most British people do not understand or know anything about Ireland, they are unable to understand the effect a no deal Brexit will have on the Island of Britain let alone the Island of Ireland, that progress on reconciliation you talk so highly of is being thrown away by the current British Government and positivity has been replaced by deep uncertainty and concern for the future. I was critical of the fact that, in my view, there has not been reconciliation. I speak highly of the *idea* of reconciliation, but it has not taken place in practice. What progress on reconciliation had been made before Brexit that you think has been thrown away? The main political parties were barely speaking to each other. Again, happy to be corrected. I agree though that Brexit has sent things backwards. - There is of course one thing that the majority in Northern Ireland agree on, the current border arrangements must remain in place, if the UK is unable to agree to the EU's Irish Border backstop proposal and the border closes it will be highly likely that a Majority will favour unification, whether or not you think it's pointless to talk about it. I agree, as do most people, that the border arrangements should stay in place. However, the UK *can't* agree to the EU's backstop because it clashes with the political vote. It would be pointless talking about anything until the UK has left the EU. In any case, regardless of talk of reunification it would be disastrous for NI and for Ireland until the two communities there can live together. Do you imagine they are all going to move somewhere different or do you not accept that they will still be living (often) in separate communities, and in many cases deep suspicion exists? How many generations of that would Ireland be happy to put up with that before there is progress. That does not sound like a *united* Ireland to me at all. That's why I said it was pointless, but that's just my view.

@rhyfelaherwfilwrol6732

5 жыл бұрын

A J: Peter Hain ignores the internal market of the UK because it is not relevant, no matter what the outcome in march 2019 the sales to the rest of the UK remain unaffected. The issue is that the Good Friday Agreement (GFA ) central feature is the integration of the economy and therefore the interconnected supply chains, of the Island of Ireland. If you establish a hard border across the Island it would destroy the agreement because this vital part of the Peace process and the prosperity of the Island as a whole is destroyed. All that is needed is to establish one or two customs checks in the ports of Northern Ireland and leave the land border as it is. The DUP know full well that this does not effect the political land border, their aim is to destroy the GFA with there emotive garbage about cutting of NI from GB. All the counties on the border with the Republic voted to remain, it was the Area around Belfast, in the DUP heartlands that voted to leave, probably because they believed the leave campaign lies that the border would remain unaffected. I don't know what the "former Ambassador" is supposed to have said, does he have a name? The point is that the "anti-EU" sentiment is very different in Ireland than than that which exists in the UK, the concerns of Sinn Féin are: that a single member state should be able to block an EU treaty and they are more likely to oppose a common EU foreign policy (which is in opposition to the Finna Gael/Fianna Fáil Government); But they believe that membership of the EU is good for Ireland and they are not opposed to citizens from other EU member states coming to work in Ireland and therefore do not want Ireland to leave the EU. The founder of the DUP's famous quote is "Never! Never! Never!", he softened his approach in his old age but the DUP is and will always remain opposed to the GFA and as a consequence the DUP are blocking every attempt to move forward in the progress on reconciliation. The DUP are blocking the Irish Language Act and want to continue the ban on same-sex marriage and Abortion, these are the reasons why power-sharing has been suspended. If it wasn't for the stupidity of the UK Government's policies and that they are being propped up by the DUP, we could get over these minor stumbling blocks and move on. The UK's ports will have to have custom checks for goods coming into the UK from the EU anyway, if a ship leaves Dublin say and docks in Stranraer it will require custom checks, if it leaves Belfast it will require custom checks in Stranraer regardless of whether NI remains in the Customs union or not because of the complexities of the integrated economy and rules of origin. There are hundreds of crossing points on the land border and less than a handful of ports, go figure. If NI remains in the Customs Union (to meet the GFA requirement for an integrated economy on the Island of Ireland) it would make no difference in reality to the political status of NI, it would still be part of the UK. It already has a different status than the rest of the UK. NI voted to remain, England and Wales voted to leave, does it really clash with the "political vote"? You can't have your pound of flesh without it bleeding, the Brexit dogma is a threat to the Union, there will be a push for unification if you do not accept the need to put customs at the ports not the land border. It is also a legal requirement under the GFA, only Parliament has the sovereign power to over turn the Law of the UK and takes precedence over an advisory referendum vote. I don't believe that the Majority of leave voters understood this threat to the Sovereignty and future of the Union, they believed the lies of the leave campaign.

Two British men debating what should happen to Ireland... nothing has changed!

@5888max

3 жыл бұрын

Well at least they are just debating , often when the Irish are 'discussing '' the matter, it ends up with with dead bodies all over the show!

I'm a long term SDLP voter from Derry. Not a fan of Sinn Fein at all. In Northern Ireland we voted to remain, if not then I'm happy to talk a United Ireland. Why are the British stuck in fantasy land - any infrastructure set up at the boarder will be demolished by the people never mind dirty dissent Republicans. You fucked up big time No.10!!!

Hope so. And this seems to be one of the main reason why the British ruling class is rattled about Brexit, as it will end their colonization of Ireland.

@peregrineslim4446

5 жыл бұрын

Or, more realistically, Brexit will mean Britain will once again rule Northern Ireland through force and oppression.

@vercoda9997

5 жыл бұрын

One wonders what you’ll do about all our Northern Irish brothers who identify as British. You may as well propose handing Wales over to Ireland, to be East Ireland.

5 жыл бұрын

@Ver Coda So you think something should be done? So using your logic, is it fine for me as an Irish Republican to go "do something" about my brothers in Northern Ireland who identify as Irish..... Your thinking is dangerous and will only bring back violence. in the event of a United Ireland all of those British citizens will be entitled to keep their passports unless the British government says otherwise. We aren't looking for vengeance.... we just want to unite our country. You don't need to encourage violence.

@maxfrei01

5 жыл бұрын

What an ignorant thing to say. What makes you think that anything will be done about them?

@alexharrington6459

5 жыл бұрын

The IRA will have a thing or two to say about that.

Tiocfaidh ár lá

@NorthernIrishman

5 жыл бұрын

Sorry I can't understand that dead language

@AlanJG178

5 жыл бұрын

Quoting the slogan of the IRA is not welcome in any context or conversation, especially when talking about the unification of divided communities and a divided nation.

@NorthernIrishman

5 жыл бұрын

@@iammcwaffles5514 but what's the point in speaking it if no one else does or even wants to? It's pointless. Speak it in the native land (republic of Ireland) most people in Northern Ireland don't speak it or know how to.

@dhouse407

5 жыл бұрын

Dia dhuit from the North. I don't know much Irish but I wish I did. I plan on learning it and hopefully spread it on to others and help revive it.

@NorthernIrishman

5 жыл бұрын

@@dhouse407 Northern Ireland not the north, the north is places like Donegal.

I hope

can this happen before after 2020 i currently study there and wanna stay

have to chuckle listening to yer man trying to keep his NI accent hidden 😁

Referendum in 2022

“A funding row”. That’s one way to put it 😂

Everything is expendable for Brexit,apart from the city

Keep it Irishs 🇮🇪

England decide and Scotland & Northern Ireland suffers...... A classic example of the relationship between Master and servant......

North Ireland back to Ireland !!!! :o)))

Brexit means sexy but it isn't. Its just a backwords step into the void of stupidity.

@mw01908

5 жыл бұрын

Brexit is not sexy, it means having a life outside dictatorship

@bigmoneysteppa

5 жыл бұрын

@@mw01908 no the term brexit means sexy. You misunderstood.