Sae nutdrivers are color coded according to size. Every company that manufacturers sae nutdrivers use the same color coding... 1/4"=red 5/16"=yellow 3/8"=blue 7/16"=brown, and so on. The one you think didnt get a color is 5/16" and the color code is actually just yellow.

@bbrewe71

5 жыл бұрын

Yep, that is correct. As an electrician we refer to nutdrivers by their colour instead of size.

@brettdn13

5 жыл бұрын

I was going to mention this as well, I have always seen SAE nut drivers colour coded. Still would help to have the numbers stamped on the head though.

@jasonwaldontoolsandmachini8370

5 жыл бұрын

BrettDN. I agree

@stefantrethan

5 жыл бұрын

Must be a US thing, only the nut drivers I have imported from the US have the colour codes. I guess it's pretty useful since I usually find myself identifying the right nut driver by the wear rather than the printed size ;-)

@stefantrethan

5 жыл бұрын

Forgot to say the Wiha you get here in Europe have the size printed on the end rather than the colour code.

I wish Wiha would make these in their awesome MicroFinish along with the suggested improvements you made. That would be the ultimate nut driver set!

Good review! I have the Wiha set, I like them. I put the size on the top of the tool with a "Gardeners" magic marker, it holds up to date.

I’ve a couple sets of Bondhus Hex keys that are 26yrs old and they used the red/yellow coding for metric/imperial

Usually when comparing shiny chrome to matte chrome- matte chrome is industrial HARD chrome, and is always dull silver. Shiny chrome AKA bumper chrome is much softer and less resistant to wear. Hard chrome is what is used inside machine gun barrels and will last literally decades longer than shiny bumper chrome. I'm not sure if that's the case here- and generally prefer Wiha to Wera, especially screwdrivers, but I'd take dull chrome on tool every day. Also, I'm an electrician and if the colors are the standard used in the US (off the top of my head brown is 7/16, red is 1/4, yellow is 5/16), I prefer this to any type of marking. It makes identifying them in a bag or box much easier

@TassieLorenzo

2 жыл бұрын

I'm not sure that's true, isn't it the same chrome just whether or not it's polished? Cheaper tools may very well use a softer chrome that is easier to polish, but once you are with the better tools like Koken, Nepros or Snap-On I can't imagine there is any difference in the chrome quality. Even in relatively cheaper tools like the Bahco S series, the Bacho sets have a matte finish yet the Irimo version of the **exact** same socket sets have a polished finish. I'm pretty sure the only difference (apart from the colour of the handles), is that one is polished and one isn't. Just take some tools with a "dull industrial hard chrome" and try polishing them, it is **absolutely** possible to polish them. What is to say Snap-On or Nepros aren't using the harder chrome but also polishing it?

I prefer the Wiha myself. I’m an HVAC Tech. So i do a good bit of electrical. Love the Wiha. They are my go to.

However yes i agree they should include the size marking along with the color

Thanks for the review im going to buy the Wera set!

@zenwave22

3 жыл бұрын

9o

I only insist hollow shaft nut drivers , whether the cheap brand or quailty brand , you never know when you run into the extra length bolt.

@dil6969

5 жыл бұрын

Yep. Sometimes you need a hollow shaft to bust a deep nut :)

@Marcel_Germann

5 жыл бұрын

Back in the 1970s there weren't so much manufacturers making hollow shaft nut drivers. In the company I'm working for they made them hollow in their own turning shop. Some of these nutdrivers are still in use today.

@BassWhoopinFishingTeam

5 жыл бұрын

I have a set in the truck if i need them but i like the magnetic nut drivers as 99% of what i take apart in the HVAC trade don’t require hollow shafts. But i do have a set for that rare instance.

i no on all ones i have had yellow was 5/16 and blue was 3/8 ie ones i always used but seemed always be thoughs colors

hi, I do not know English spoken, that's why I write to you, qualitatively it's better wera or wiha?

nice video. Please compare the wiha and wera screwdrivers.

You said everyone is different but out of curiosity which handle do you prefer for ergonomics

Just received 2 of the SAE hollow shaft wiha nut drivers from KC tools yesterday, 1/4 has a red dot and 7/16 has a brown dot, no change as of 2018.

@GermanToolReviews

5 жыл бұрын

Cool, thanks for the information.

hmmm wera started to color code (+ number) the screwdrivers too, but this set looks like it still uses the old gold marking(i like it more)

Excellent review, and timely for me, as I plan to buy some hollow drivers. I agree with all of your criticisms but I have to say they both look like very nice sets.

The Wiha handles are color coded for sizes the end has a colored circle as you mentioned but you failed to understand that all of them have different colors bud. I do prefer the Wera style though

Please let my wife know that I would be happy to get either set for Father's Day. I'm very accommodating that way.

My question is where does using a nutdriver make sense. I have a couple here and there but anytime I've tied to use them I can never get enough torque. I'm sure there is applications where they are perfect I'm just curious what that is. Also any that I have are craftsman and that hard plastic handle just like on their regular screw drivers don't feel great on be hands could that be why I have no luck. Do I just need a better quality better feeling set?

@GermanToolReviews

5 жыл бұрын

I might do a video to show where I usually use these since this question often comes up a lot. The application that comes to mind most recently is working on pinball machines where everything is secured with a hex head wood screw. The only other tool that would work other than a nut driver would be a socket with a really long extension and a ratchet. There are other applications in industrial automation when you run into large relays that use aluminum or copper threaded studs that don't require much torque.

@justind6039

5 жыл бұрын

Hose clamps. Those little buggers are easy to strip out with a ratchet. Plus it's easier just to grab one tool and go. 1/4" and 5/16" are all I have and ever use. And my only use for them are hose clamps.

@KitchenerLeslie2

5 жыл бұрын

As an electrician, I mostly use them to open housing on equipment that needs wiring or service. Things you don’t need much torque for. I don’t think a homeowner would need them. Just get a socket set and use them whether you need torque or not. The need for nutdrivers would come up so infrequently you could sacrifice their convenience.

@stinkycheese804

4 жыл бұрын

Yes and no, with a larger contoured handle and rubber grips, you can achieve more torque and do so more comfortably, but in these size ranges, the fasteners shouldn't have been torqued very high. Perhaps they were, or are rusted, but it could also be that you need to do some exercises that increase your hand and forearm strength. Then again if a nutdriver doesn't make sense to you because you prefer something else instead, then it may not make sense for you to upgrade to a different nutdriver set unless you do a lot of work where they shine. Personally, I more often use a ratchet, extension and socket for most, or a 1/4" magnetic handle and socket bit for those lower torque, hardly ever needing a hollow shaft. Where a hollow shaft helps, I just use a wrench to break torque then spin them off by hand. I'm sure there are deep recessions where that won't work, but I never have to deal with those. I already have enough tools that I don't buy for what if scenarios, only adding to collection as needed.

@sinista.productions

3 жыл бұрын

On HV switchgear, removing and fitting TLF fuses requires an 8mm nut driver. They don’t need any torque at all, any tighter than hand tight and the fuse forks split away from the fuse body.

i have been thinking about getting the flex shaft whia 5/16 and 1/4 for work are they any good? and i lik e the color codes but they still should use the size as well. and yellow is for 5/16. so they are standard

@GermanToolReviews

5 жыл бұрын

Never had one, but I might think about getting a 1/4 flex shaft one. I do have an application where that can come in handy.

The Klein metrics have both color and numbers.

They should put a 1/4 socket on the end of th handle if you need leverage.

@Markus0021

5 жыл бұрын

Either that or a hex bolster on the shaft, so you can put a wrench on it. Some screwdrivers have that feature.

@KitchenerLeslie2

5 жыл бұрын

No. You’ll have to pay for that. If you need leverage and you’re grabbing your socket set, why not just use your socket set?

the colour codes are standard 3/16 black 1 /4 red 5/16 yel 3/8 blue 7/16 brn 1/2 red again 9/16 org

@ThePoping123

5 жыл бұрын

I almost only buy German but Milwaukee nut drivers are 8 point and hollow core

Made in Chine, with pride from Germany. Those SAE color codings are extremely common amongst many different makers of SAE nutdrivers.

Okay, nut drivers were never ment for high torque applications. If hand tight isn't tight enough then you need to get a wrench and finish tightening. Electronics repair is one such industry that uses nut drivers daily. Most of the time a nut driver is the tool of choice. Secondly, the color coded end happens to follow (more or less) the electrical color code, where black is the smallest and violet is the largest. In the case of the two reds, the diameter of the dot on the 1/2" driver is larger than the one on the 1/4" driver. I do not understand the difficulty here. Anyway, I like the color coding. It is very fast for me to find the right size, definitely much faster than reading sideways and upside-down fractions!

@KitchenerLeslie2

5 жыл бұрын

Captain Chaos I think you’re the only person here that understands nut drivers intended use. Speed and ease of use. Not torque.

Love the WIHA handles , cant take to the wera shape , other faves are the old "england"Stanley "magnum" drivers :)

@nojhampton

4 жыл бұрын

Same here, i like the tools, but the handle just won't sit in my hand. Makes you wonder if they were developed by aliens with 3 digits! My favourite to date are the Bacho screwdrivers, found them in a sale bin at B&Q.

Yeah not having the size on the top is a bummer, I have the same set in a bag as well. The size marking on the side is small as well. For the price they really should have the size on the top, this is one area where Klein beats them.

I like PB Swiss Tools

There is a color code for hex drivers

The socket-like force enhancement on the Wiha is a gimmick. You can't put anywhere near enough torque on the tool for something like that to activate and be useful.

@harveysmith100

5 жыл бұрын

it isn't about force, more to do with getting rounded off bolts out and or not rounding off bolts.

The only advantage of nutdrivers with a massive shaft is that their shaft is more slim. The shaft of nutdrivers with a hollow shaft is always more bulky.

@stinkycheese804

4 жыл бұрын

The other advantage is they are often less expensive to make, and purchase.

Shocked that a tool review channel didn’t realize their tools were color coded. No size needs to be printed on the rear of the handle

I've got some Wera screwdrivers that are over 20 years old now. Tough little suckers.

The wiha has a flank drive around the socket just like snap on sockets. I prefer the wera nut drivers because I like the handles.

The color sheme of the metric Wera is the same, no difference between metric and SAE.

@BMack37

5 жыл бұрын

This is where you get SAE in Wera and Metric in Wiha (Or the inverse). With precision drivers, it's a good idea (in my opinion) to do several different manufacturers and/or ESD. Felo precision goes well with Wiha's aesthetically, and all the (well-known) German screwdrivers are really good.

I don't think anyone that makes nutdrivers has anything on klein.

@BassWhoopinFishingTeam

5 жыл бұрын

I am fucking your waifu and there's nothing you can do about it Klein does make nice nut drivers but i prefer Wihas screwdrivers over Kleins. Just preference

3 years looks brand new

@jasonbone5121

5 жыл бұрын

You do realize some tools are used in pharmaceutical or food processing plants, etc don't you? Not all tools are used by auto mechanics. And even when it comes to auto techs, many take care of their investment - it is after all, how they make money.

@GermanToolReviews

5 жыл бұрын

Definitely don't use the larger ones as much, but the 1/4" size I use all the time.

@axtra92

5 жыл бұрын

Jason Bone no shit sherlock

@dimitrioslykissas7981

5 жыл бұрын

@@jasonbone5121 Some times there is also a practical reason for keeping tools clean. More than a third of my most used stuff lives in the apartment I share with my girlfriend, in corner, in the living room, next to where we cook, eat and watch TV. It makes a lot of sense to not have dirty and oily stuff when they are literally next to you all day, every day.

@euanroy4673

5 жыл бұрын

I'm a mechanic (auto tech) and all my tools are clean, yes there beaten up and worn but I keep them clean, you might need a screwdriver in the morning to work in a greasy engine bay and then in the afternoon to remove fasteners in someones cream leather interior... Always good to keep your tools clean

Interestingly, u cannot buy those in Germany.

Wera or Wiha?? Wiha or Wera.?? I like both brands. I don't own any nut drivers but have a great selection of screwdrivers, bits, and various other tools. I love them both. Good comparison but I think it's a matter of preference. Shorter shafts on Wiha better for tighter areas. Stamped sizes on Wera better visual identification. I know the standard of SAE color coding but I would still prefer numerical stamps even better if they did a colored cap with fractional or decimal size. I would love to see hex bolsters on all of these. Kinda pointless without them I'm sure both of these sets are great quality and let the people argue that one is better than the other.

Have you ever worked with some of these nut drivers? Its not about the colours. 99% of poeple just gibe a show of. Bad comparisons. Like pls to get your opinion of those tests. Thanks

@stinkycheese804

4 жыл бұрын

Have you ever worked with english? 99% of people have no idea what a "gibe a show of", is. IF you mean people are showing off as some point of vanity that their tools have functional colors, then I suspect that you don't appreciate how it speeds up work to be able to grab the right size/type tool on the first try.

I wish more companies than just klein and milwaukee would make passthrough nutdrivers.

@Jimboking1384635

5 жыл бұрын

If you need to pass through you are using the wrong tool. You're better off using a pass through socket set with an angle.

@iamfuckingyourwaifuandther2743

5 жыл бұрын

I think if I had to use a pass through socket set I would just use a wrench. No need to pack your toolbox/bag up with repetitive tools.

@justind6039

5 жыл бұрын

@@iamfuckingyourwaifuandther2743 Generally yes. However a wrench cannot get to a faster that lays inside of a recess. This is where the pass through excel.

@iamfuckingyourwaifuandther2743

5 жыл бұрын

How often to you get a fastener that lays inside of a recess that a deep socket can't get too? I think I would rather just have my nut drivers able to take care of the issue the one time it comes up, instead of buying a socket set I would never use. It's a simple enough design to implement into nutdrivers, but I can't find any german companies that do that. If I did I would buy them instantly. I do not like klein screwdriver handles.

@justind6039

5 жыл бұрын

@@iamfuckingyourwaifuandther2743 Not very often at all. Hardly ever. Just making a point of how a pass through set would shine over a wrench. I personally would much rather use a ratchet wrench.

3:16 That's what she said.

Wera

Has this guy ever worked with tools?

@stinkycheese804

4 жыл бұрын

Clearly he doesn't even have any tools, with those in the video being a jedi mind trick illusion that fooled you.

The problem with this type of tool is that with the big sizes you cant apply the minimum torque needed by size according to DIN standard, and if the handle comes without a hole to apply extra torque... is worse. So, many times this tools are "out of standard" basically because of the handle style so you can't apply the required force needed. this can be a problem in factories and so on because of the inconsistency of thightening. For me this is a residual product that has very low sales

@ckm-mkc

5 жыл бұрын

This is where Wera's Cyklop wrench shines - you can use it as both a screwdriver & wrench. That being said, there are some situations where trying to get a nut started or dealing with a very long shaft and no swing make these absolutely necessary. Besides, if torque is that important, perhaps the correct procedure is to use a torque wrench after having tightened it down with one of these?

Germany tools the best quality.😍😍😍

@SramNalgbtq

5 жыл бұрын

Nazi German tools...

you must not use your tools very much. those wiha look brand new.

People should just stop using non metric screws.

@GermanToolReviews

5 жыл бұрын

Would be nice, but I don't even think I've ever seen a metric hex head wood screw. Same with lag bolts, I'm sure they exist, just never seen a metric one.

@scrambler350

5 жыл бұрын

Everything on Residential and Commercial Air Conditioning is fractional (mostly 1/4" or 5/16"), and on the 'metric' units like Mini-Splits they usually use Phillip's head screws(which SUCK) to keep you from having to carry separate metric nut drivers. Honestly - I would rather they use a METRIC hex head screws and just carry a little pouch with metric nut drivers for when I knew I was gonna have to work on a Mini-split rather than having to deal with crappy, easy-to-strip, phillips screws.

@Marcel_Germann

5 жыл бұрын

DIN 571: www.schrauben-lexikon.de/download/t_571.pdf And: eshop.wuerth.de/Produktkategorien/DIN-571-Edelstahl-A2-blank/14013508040502.cyid/1401.cgid/de/DE/EUR/

@whitacrebespoke

5 жыл бұрын

We get metric heads here in U.K. but some stuff that comes from the states or is made for the US has imperial heads and it’s frustrating when you bust open a box of hex head construction or roofing screws and it has an imperial head. I usually use Wera nut drivers in my impact driver great till an imperial head wears the driver quick.

@leealtmansr.3811

4 жыл бұрын

Depends where one lives. I prefer sae.