There's a case of "loud minority" going on here. The idiots will come up with criticisms for Bellingham for attention/ragebait, but the vast majority of england fans do venerate him.

@ronel7836

3 күн бұрын

The majority are calling out the England team or coach. And then add on top of that, Kane and Bellingham calling out the fans, or as they say it "the haters" when in reality the fans have a reason to be pissed. The England team needed 93 minutes to get ONE SHOT ON TARGET against slovakia, then barely made it out of the group stages because 3 bumbling teams decided to be shit (including England). And now we are here, where there probably gonna bumble and stumble there way too the finals, before they get there egos taking by Spain or germany

@xelaander8429

3 күн бұрын

Exactly this! People whose lives mean nothing will always look to farm quick ragebait engagement, why give them oxygen by highlighting their stupidity?

@dannyhawkings8469

3 күн бұрын

@@ronel7836worked for Portugal In 2016. Didn’t win a game of football in 90 mins until they beat Wales in the semis then had to beat France in extra time with a striker from Swansea. I fear if England win the Euros the England fans are just going to say “this is the worst euros of all time, we shouldn’t be celebrating this, Southgate is a clown”.

@xelaander8429

3 күн бұрын

​@@ronel7836 the thing is, Coaches that are pally pally with players don't get criticised by their players even when they're playing dogshit tactics (Berhalter, Southgate) and even if they weren't, you don't expect the players to criticize them. What's happening is that both the players and sports commentaries are amplifying the basement dwellers voices who criticise the team aimlessly and responding to them thus amplifying them in the process instead of focusing on valuable criticism

@Jojo.R.Chipelago

3 күн бұрын

​@@dannyhawkings8469 as an English person, if Southgate actually brings it home, we won't still be hating him. Everytime I hear his name mentioned, it's "we need to sack Southgate", followed by "if he doesn't win the Euros". We're a fickle bunch.

We want Egirl background deco in new york now

@rayeardley7618

2 күн бұрын

Are we going to have the e-girl in NY too is what I'm wondering 🤔

No one in England thinks for a second Bellingham is overrated (ok maybe some) nor thinking that goal was nothing short of spectacular. What most English fans think that we were 30 seconds away from being knocked out against a third placed side. Followed by having the audacity of shooting the fans for being critical about an extremely sub-par performance. I find it odd that yesterday you released a video saying the opposite about the US. Complaining about teams you should have beaten X, Y and Z with the resources you have and calling for Berthauler's job. The people crying about a celebration are such a small minority that it's laughable the storm in a teacup that caused. All in all Z, calm yo farm fam.

@jacksonconstantine5740

2 күн бұрын

Well said

That Bellingham goal will be replayed along side Gazza's goal at Euro 96, Linker crying at Italia 90 and the 1966 pitch invasion, and rightly so. Kid is a legend in the making.

@fallofcamelot

3 күн бұрын

It was Gazza crying at Italia 90 not Lineker

@gwaters8067

3 күн бұрын

Lineker pooed himself first game against Ireland

@bipolarminddroppings

3 күн бұрын

@@fallofcamelot there was some Linker moment from 90 I'm thinking of then...

@tinypardus

2 күн бұрын

And the fact he did fuck all else will be forgotten because he got the equaliser against the team 40 places beneath us on the world rankings.

@tinypardus

2 күн бұрын

And the fact he did fuck all else will be forgotten because he got the equaliser against the team 40 places beneath us on the world rankings.

Something you must understand about England, and British Culture in general - is there is very much a "don't grow your hedge too high, or your neighbour will cut it for you" embedded into the core fabric of it's working class roots. You said "it's almost like England fans want their team to lose" and that has been studied for years by all sections of the English Pundit circuit since there is some truth to it - since a team that win's denies you the chance to engage in the national pastime: complaining.

@Bagster321

3 күн бұрын

Tall Poppy Syndrome

@ferrousallotrope

3 күн бұрын

Just curious , what does “don’t grow your hedge too high or your neighbor will cut it for you “ mean?

@RoBoDaN91

3 күн бұрын

​@@ferrousallotrope It's basically saying don't be too prideful or someone will come along to bring you down a peg. It's like buying a shiny new sports car and someone says "compensating for something?"

@pauldiamond1058

2 күн бұрын

Absolutely spot on

@8bitmemorylane166

2 күн бұрын

Hah, and I always thought this was a stereotypical and pretty exclusive German trait! Guess jealousy and resentment of other's successes are a truly unifying characteristic among many European nations after all.

17 seconds and 0 e-girls, Zealand-rizz-em fell off

@cathaldwyer5108

3 күн бұрын

40 seconds no views

@freefromnuts7889

3 күн бұрын

I'm in the first 50 minutes. I was out shopping. Sorry for the wait.

@browhat6935

3 күн бұрын

@ninjalectualx

2 күн бұрын

Zealand didn't fall off! He's just tired today

RUN, THEY STILL GOT SURFACES WHEREVER THE HELL YOU ARE

@sjchxhtriskit3025

3 күн бұрын

Oh and further proof stubble is the best look on any man in existence

@jordylont1879

2 күн бұрын

He looks like he hasn't taken care of himself in a week

@ninjalectualx

2 күн бұрын

Surfaces? I thought covid was over

@sjchxhtriskit3025

2 күн бұрын

@@jordylont1879 yeah and it looks good

@copious983

2 күн бұрын

lol

its twitter, minority that complains will always be super loud, any pub in the country rn lets that man drink for free

@jacksonconstantine5740

2 күн бұрын

Exactly.

@alimac5926

2 күн бұрын

It's complete bullshit to imply a player is beyond reproach because they're black. He's got a nasty character so i'll view him as such.

@isaiahbennison7629

2 күн бұрын

@@alimac5926nasty character? Like you know him

I'm just mad that I gotta endure at least another 90 minutes of Southgate ball.

@Othraerir

2 күн бұрын

imagine Ange managing England... :)

@jacklang3314

2 күн бұрын

I reckon he’d give it a right go.

@Grautwok

2 күн бұрын

That's the only valid reason I've seen to be mad at Bellingham for scoring that goal

Not an England fan but seeing Bellingham save his team from bowing out against Slovakia with a bicycle kick was clutch as Fuckin' hell. Dude had every right to celebrate doing what he did.

@Othraerir

2 күн бұрын

tbf he did it for Real all season

@gastonzumbo9860

2 күн бұрын

Yeah the reaction from the English is fuckin insane to me. I remember Rojo's goal against Nigeria in the 2018 World Cup. We hated the coach, we hated the way we played, we hated that world cup. But the amount of excitement and love for the flag that Messi cross into a past his prime average defender's weak foot into first time volley goal that sent us to the Ro16 is unparalleled. If anything, it shows arrogance from the fans more than the players, these reactions.

@import_xlsxwriter

2 күн бұрын

⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠@@gastonzumbo9860you can’t make sweeping generalisations of England fans based on a few people on twitter. Everyone celebrated Bellingham’s goal like crazy across the country, and for many of us it was one of the best moments we’ve ever seen from an England team. The only thing people don’t like is the manager’s and players’ approach to criticism, they’re playing some of the worst football we’ve ever seen and are lucky to still be in the competition, but they act like they’re playing well and any criticism of England’s tactics and setup are personal attacks on them.

@gastonzumbo9860

2 күн бұрын

@@import_xlsxwriter I'm not making a sweeping generalization? The point is that it's incredible to me that so many people's reaction is to be a prick to the guy instead of being happy you get to watch your team one more time. You understand exactly what I meant, I'm not saying all English people are bad or whatever, but obviously a very big percentage of online fans act this way, you can't deny that. Which is difficult for me to get.

I don't remember his celebration after the goal exactly but I'd assume the problem is celebrating in against the fans rather than with them. Even Ronaldo made an apologetic gesture towards the fans after scoring in the shootout because he knows the fans are on his side whether he gets criticized or not. I'm no England fan but my perception is the majority's anger is directed to the mentality of the squad and Southgate.

@jacksonconstantine5740

2 күн бұрын

Moreso Southgate, but yeah that’s the gist of it

Your voice sounds so different in this mic. It is weirdly soothing

@akunwanneprosper7016

2 күн бұрын

It's a girl's mic

@1ron7ands

2 күн бұрын

Bruh I thought I was tripping 🤣 I knew it sounded different

That tweet has a completely valid point

the man in the arena quote is silly too, it’s a deflection, you don’t have to be a chef to know when a meal is bad and you don’t have to be a footballer to know something is wrong here, which you’ve done consistently with the US team, it’s a great quote but it isn’t applicable in most cases, Rick Rubin can’t play any musical instrument or work any equipment competently and is one of the best music producers ever, Arrigo Sacchi never played football above youth level and is one of the best coaches ever, these aren’t a fair comparison to some drunkard in a bar but to say that the observers have no right to criticise is fundamentally flawed in my opinion

@jacksonconstantine5740

2 күн бұрын

Well said

@tinypardus

2 күн бұрын

Well said

That goal in 90min+5 was their first shot on target in the game. It's the 4th game that they've played terribly in. They have deserved the criticism they've been getting but Bellingham & Kane have been trying to throw it back at the fans and the pundits when the performance doesn't merit it. It was a wonder goal and he deserved to celebrate it but doing the yapping hand sign like the team don't deserve the criticism they've been getting is ridiculous.

Why less pink?

@ninjalectualx

2 күн бұрын

He hasn't been eating his usual diet of shrimp

I'm English & lost my voice from celebrating that goal, that's why football is great! Jude is king in my eyes.

The fact that this dude decided to play for Real Madrid and not for a Premier League team and has absolutely destroyed in his first seasons with them, has produced some serious brain rot within a good amount of english fans.

@coyootje

3 күн бұрын

I think it's the contrast between seeing him in those Real Madrid games and in the England shirt that's causing a lot of the criticism. I don't think it's his fault, I blame Southgate more. The whole team played like shit against Slovenia, they were lucky to get away with it in the end. Not selecting a second left back, not subbing players or changing tactics when things aren't going well, immediately switching to defending as soon as you have a lead. He's a coach that likes to play extremely safely with a team whose (relative) weakness mainly lies in it's defense (who are all still Premier League players).

@j.s3300

2 күн бұрын

If he played for a PL club, it would be worse

@alexmiddleton2276

2 күн бұрын

Not saying any of the hate that Bellingham gets is warranted, but in the last couple of months of his Dortmund career, a portion of the fans started to turn on Bellingham. Describing him as arrogant and a person who would consistently put himself before the team. Another one of the complaints against Bellingham at that time was that his roaming playmaking style, clogs up midfield and makes it very difficult to play around him as a teammate. These issues have been present between Foden and Bellingham at the EUROs, although I imagine Southgate has also given them both instructions relating to solving the issues not having a proper LB brings about, so it might just be an unavoidable issue for him at this tournament. The hate that Bellingham got for scoring the winner is just straight up crazy though.

@coyootje

2 күн бұрын

@@alexmiddleton2276 well technically he didn't score the winner, he scored the equalizer to get them to extra time against the national team from the smallest country left at that point. And he celebrated like he won the Champions league... Don't get me wrong, I don't mind players celebrating but at times like that I like it more when a player keeps it modest, grabs the ball and quickly wants to restart the game to try and score a second one. Not saying that would've been possible but Slovenia was very much on the ropes after the goal went in, that's why it was so easy for England to score another. Besides all that I agree with your point about Bellingham and Foden clashing and that causing issues in the midfield. You can really tell that they're struggling to progress the ball that way. The reason why things got better once Toney got on was because Kane got someone running behind the lines to search for and there now was another way of playing (pumping the ball to 3 strikers). Come to think of it, why doesn't Southgate try some sort of funky tactic where you have Toney on the left whose basically a second striker? Can't be worse than Foden...

@stevenisadragon

2 күн бұрын

​@@coyootje Each to their own but I think it's things like that which have ruined modern football, I want characters, I want drama, I want rivalries, I want shithousery, I want fights. I want those players to go out there and treat the other team like they're stealing food from their families, modestly taking the ball after a cathartic goal like that and just jogging up back to restart is just robotic and soulless imo, shows no character at all

Nothing gets stuck in the past like the English

@tinypardus

2 күн бұрын

Being stuck in the past is when you criticise a poor performance but the player plays for Real Madrid so you’re not allowed to do that

@WookieWarriorz

2 күн бұрын

Literally makes no sense ? How is England in the past ? Because a handful of people on TWITTERwere critical of him ?

Tall Poppy Syndrome is always a weird one for us Yanks to try understanding. It's very real in the English-speaking world aside from the US.

@jacksonconstantine5740

2 күн бұрын

It’s because our cultures are different. US culture is largely built around consumerism and consumption. Everything in the US is big. The country, the houses, the pageantry, the portion sizes, and the egos. In the UK it’s less so, and more about collective spirit and (somewhat) more humble and ascetic lives. What you call Tall poppy syndrome is really just us reminding each other to stay humble. Humility is essential in developing trust and respect, which are the foundations of English culture. It’s hard to trust and respect somebody who’s acting like they’re above you. When we see these working class lads make a few quid kicking a ball around then walk around like their shit doesn’t stink, we teach them some humility and remind them that they’re one of us.

Taking a huge dump on the newest, shiniest star of the national team is just what happens in England, the whole "build them up then destroy them" thing the press loves to do to. Every since he started to get Ballon d'Or calls I've been waiting for the moment he starts getting abused for no reason whatsoever. Least surprising thing in the universe and I've seen it so often since the mid 90s or so (when I started having access to UK media) it's just background noise at this point.

@jacksonconstantine5740

2 күн бұрын

It’s a minority of people anyway. I was England to lose tbh (even though I’m as patriotic as it gets and love my country) just to get Southgate sacked because I despise his football, but I nearly cried when Jude scored. We’re not all like those couple of Twitter cretins.

@tinypardus

2 күн бұрын

You can be a great player and an arrogant cunt at the same time. You can be a great player and have a poor performance at the same time.

@Padbot1

2 күн бұрын

He doesn't deserve Ballon D'Or shouts. He's a talented young player who has scored a lot of goals but is miles away from being the best player in the world. He's not even a top3 midfielder at his own club.

She's got a lovely setup to be honest lots of details really like it

This is a bs controversy, but to be honest, that goal isn't going to shut anyone up. One moment of brilliance isn't enough to make up for the stinker that has been England's run thus far.

It's not about him celebrating. It's about him stinking out the tournament, along with the rest if the team and acting like he's just dropped a GOAT performance when the reality is that goal saved them from, at least on paper, the worst tournament result in the last 30 years for the country. To go 92 mins without a shot on target against the 45th ranked nation in the world and then criticise people for saying they've not played well and the result was a bit lucky is a bit much to take. On his character too, there was that incident in the Slovenia game where he was giving it large to the Slovenia player that wasn't doing anything when he's probably on 20x more money just seems incredibly arrogant and fragile

Zealand in his ASMR/Radio DJ era

It's a very 'British journalist' thing to do ... build someone up and revere them in order to strike them down as harshly as possible (the reason I changed career path is because I recognised this among the top journalists). I hate it and I wish we celebrated this outrageous talent!

I feel like this England team just have an unbelievable level of disonnect and downright delusion when facing the England fans and media. People flying to Germany and spending a fortune to watch the total dogshit that England have put out, I feel like fans have a right to boo. Obviously abuse is unacceptable, but all the players, not just Jude, seem upset that fans and pundits aren't praising them when they haven't done anything remotely praise worthy. You have seen Kane and Foden and Walker complaining every interview that the media didn't call them gods because they won the group.

@j.s3300

2 күн бұрын

England could win this tournament and the english would find a way to complain.

@jacksonconstantine5740

2 күн бұрын

@@j.s3300because it teaches humility

@j.s3300

2 күн бұрын

@@jacksonconstantine5740 humility? The english? HA

@tinypardus

2 күн бұрын

Well said

@jacksonconstantine5740

2 күн бұрын

@@j.s3300 yeah, humility. We hate people who think they’re above others, it’s why we’ve spent the last thousand years putting the French on their arse.

One key factor no-one has mentioned is this: Whatever criticism the fans say about the players is because we care. We want the team to succeed. Bellingham using the "hate" to motivate himself is fine but never forget that we are on the same side.

england didn’t deserve to be slovakia the fact they’re still in the tournament is a miracle

@Widlrr

2 күн бұрын

Real. The entire squad have been dreadfullllll

@tinypardus

2 күн бұрын

True

@croissantpower

2 күн бұрын

Why would we want ‘to be’ Slovakia anyway 😂

@wildeyshere_paulkersey853

Күн бұрын

Yes we did. Slovakia did fk all apart from counter once and score.

When Bellingham scored his first goal for England, I saw someone in the comments calling him a primadona. England fans are just strange creatures. They'll find a way to make a big deal out of the smallest things.

English people don't like it if you're not 'stiff upper lip' personified, and im guilty of it too, but last minute bicycle kick goal in a knockout game should probably be an exception

Bruh you clearly haven’t seen how the English media glaze him 💀

@tinypardus

2 күн бұрын

Exactly, they tear at every other player and glaze Bellingham, abuse of all other players is normalised but you can’t dare slightly criticise Bellingham.

@lordpelagius5078

2 сағат бұрын

@@tinypardus yopu both must have been watching uk media from an alternative dimension because i have seen literally every pundit demand he get played out of position to accommodate foden

thats not zealand its a bag of ranch

@gonzaloalva126

3 күн бұрын

The Hivemind - Zealand crossover we all needed

We have a toxic culture here in England of treating any externally-based country or entity, that is in any way unknown, as inferior. Case in point: the Slovakian team, despite them getting to the knockout stages, with their players being largely unfamiliar to many due to not watching anything beyond the English top four leagues. Hell, many only watch the Premier League. It's woefully ignorant

Zealand recording from the set of Midsommar.

You can celebrate and show you care without being a dick, the fans have been asking the team to show up for months and they haven’t, if you take what’s said without the context sure it’s all fine but a under performing team wanting more from fans who have travelled to a different country but the players and manager aren’t prepared to give more themselves is entitlement

Where are the cat ears

Loving the set Zed. How's yours coming along?

Brilliantly put. And I'm still reeling in disbelief that I got to see this, even if on tv, as it happened. Some folks just can't switch gears

They did this to Beckham too.

@rayeardley7618

2 күн бұрын

Hoddle, Waddle, there's more on the list I'm sure

@jacksonconstantine5740

2 күн бұрын

Completely different scenario. Beckham got given a bullshit red card, then got fucking death threats after a tournament which England had a genuine chance of winning. Compare that to the most talented English team in a generation putting in four extremely subpar performances, with a useless dross of a manager who is afraid to rotate players, and the worst these lads have gotten is some slightly unpleasant chat on Twitter and a couple of tabloid rags. Beckham had a effigy of him burned in the street ffs over something that wasn’t even his fault.

Very American view, everything ok as long as it's successful. Making fun of your opponent and rubbing it in his face is not very sportsmanlike, and UEFA has rules against that. Yeah, the pressure... I'm almost crying. The poor b... he gets a shitload of money for that. Part of that money is for being a role model for kids. What have those kids learned there?

HE FIXED THE MIC 😂

@ivandankob7112

2 күн бұрын

Not really

They have played shit all tournament. Anykne qho sticks their head up will get flack becauae theirs been no real acknowledgement of their problems. Im scottiah and acrually like alot of the players despite my bias but southgate is a scotsmans dream

Not speaking for all England fans. But we’re not mad at the players at all, I mean they themselves could play better but when you have zero balance in your team what do you expect. Everyone is fuming with Southgate and his inept tactics and his ability to not know when to make a substitution to save his life. But for some reason this tournament the whole team especially Southgate have this aura of “our shit doesn’t stink” to themselves in interviews and just don’t want to come out and say we didn’t play well at all, when we have all just watched four straight of the most boring games. That Jude goal was up there with Beckhams Greece free kick for me. There isn’t a single person in this country that isn’t proud of the every player that put the kit on when called up.

So im am not allowed to criticize someone, because I don't know what it is like to be him?

love the basketball comparisons

It's a cultural difference. You are looking at it from an American point of view and that kind of hyper confidence plays over there. In Britain though it is seen as arrogance. We value modesty in our athletes and it is for others to recognise greatness. Boasting about how great you are is really frowned upon. To be clear in this case I have no problem with him but that is where it comes from.

@n4r4plays47

3 күн бұрын

Even modest players get hate in England. Look at Saka, a kid who barely says a word, and if he does, it's media trained answers. So there's no deserved hate, but he still gets it. The England media have bled into English people's way of thinking about their own players. It's entitlement and poor sportsmanship.

@hareyblk

3 күн бұрын

Typical English attitude of looking down on Americans as if we're somehow better. shrug as said above, entitlement - mask it as culture or whatever you want

@ElJaztins

3 күн бұрын

England simply has a shit fan culture. Even players that barely say anything at all get hate. Extremely odd that the hate is almost never directed towards Foden.

@ashtonndlovu9470

3 күн бұрын

LIES you all love Ibrahimovic, Keane and Balloteli (while in City) You all hate him because Jude clearly is doing well and has self confidence alot of people lack 😂 Simple

@emanuelfer456

2 күн бұрын

@@ashtonndlovu9470 I dont think people hate Jude and that from the video is just a minority. People are hating the way all players are playing as a team and hating on the coach who is n1 responsible for that

Bro if I scored a goal like that I'd be an "arrogant, narcissistic cnunt" too

@tinypardus

2 күн бұрын

He could’ve bothered trying for the previous 95 minutes that would’ve been good

Zealand actibg like England didnt play like absolute dogshit the whole 90 against Slovakia:

@lost1head

3 күн бұрын

it's not relevant to the subject

@ashtonndlovu9470

3 күн бұрын

That's not the topic fruitcake

@plcdfa

3 күн бұрын

@@lost1head of course it's relevant to the subject. Bellingham was on the field during that 90 minute too. The goal was world class, but the team as a whole is criminally underperforming the tournament so far, you'd expect he would at least acknowledge that when he's making a statement representing the whole squad, not act like he just won the world cup single handedly.

@gastonzumbo9860

2 күн бұрын

​@@plcdfaExcept he's not acting like that all. And the team has already spoken about their issues. I love to see England fail but this is just cringe at this point

@jordylont1879

2 күн бұрын

He literally brings that up. What are you talking about

OK, so first disclosure - I'm english and I support the national team. So I can't claim to be strictly neutral in this, however I don't feel like I have a dog in this particular fight. I don't think Bellingham has been the figure we hoped for in this tournament yet, although there is at least one game left to turn it around. Nor do I want to criticise him for his celebrations. However, if other fans do, and want to call him out for whatever perceived trangressions they see, then have at it. Football is just entertainment, and we are all entitled to be critics. Not everyone likes the same movies I like, and some people enjoy some real dogshit films that I can't fathom why. But they are the audience that it was created for, and it's their right to discuss it. Why is football any different? Someone wants to idolise Bellingham, fine. Someone wants to hate him, fine. Yes the players are real people with real feelings. But it should be the duty of the clubs to prepare them to thicken their skin as soon as they pull on a club shirt for any vitriol that comes at them, for it will come. Whoever they are. There is no magic armour stemming from swapping club shirt for national shirt. Any of the team or management is liable to be in the eye of the storm for fan frustration whether it's deserved or not. Yes, it's toxic, and destructive and doesn't help England's cause when fans turn on a player or manager, but it's an inevitable overspill of the passion and nothing new or unique to Bellingham. Show me a country that doesn't engage in this behaviour, and I'll show you a country that's not emotionally invested. Look all across Europe and South America and you will see the same outpourings happen.

people always say negative things on twitter, i was expecting a former player or pundit to be the subject of this vid

People looking for reasons to get mad is the Twitter experience.

The Shankly “Some people believe football is a matter of life and death, I am very disappointed with that attitude. I can assure you it is much, much more important than that.” - Consider how we discuss politics on the web and then how much more important Football is to the common man (in our minds..)

England cant handle (insert exaggerated Swagger meme here)

I think I might understand the root of these complaints. I think it's two-fold: 1) Brits like to celebrate relatively modest people. We hold modesty in high regard and showiness and arrogance, not so much. So there may be a general distain toward Jude for his rightful ego because some find it unattractive in a character they look up to. 2) This wonder-goal by Jude is what has grabbed the headlines and has scapegoated another lacklustre England performance, Jude included. The goal is a great moment, and it got England out of a hole. But a lot of people are keen to remind people that the hole was there because we dug it ourselves, and nobody will talk about that now. Bellingham is a media magnet. Had the goal been scored by someone less media-adored and hyped and self-assured, and had it been less fantastic then I imagine the complaining wouldn't be as widespread as there wouldn't have been as much distraction from the terrible performance for the preceding 94 mins (and the 28 mins of ET after 2-1).

@david91lvb

2 күн бұрын

That first point made me laugh. Do you know British people? Especially their football fans?

@jacksonconstantine5740

2 күн бұрын

Hit the nail on the head mate.

@jacksonconstantine5740

2 күн бұрын

@@david91lvbpassion and modesty aren’t mutual exclusive.

The issue is that he is getting the Ronaldo treatment when you expect him to get the Messi treatment 😂

Hair looks good

American football should start from the ground up Natural grass field + promotion and relegation agent

My issue with Bellingham isn't all the celebrating with arrogance or the diving. It's the disdain he and a lot of the England squad have showed towards the fans, who are rightly critical of the teams performances.

@kxyoto8541

3 күн бұрын

I’m in 2 minds on this one. On one hand the media & part of fan culture in this country builds players up to destroy them the minute things go bad. That doesn’t happen to the same degree in other countries. But this squad has woefully underperformed so far & we want the same goal as the players. There has to be some level of accountability.

@collapseddev1321

3 күн бұрын

@@kxyoto8541 I agree. The issue is in previous tournaments it felt like we were past that mentality under Southgate but now he and a lot of the players seemed to have adopted a siege mentality and a hatred of the fans from seemingly no where.

@ronel7836

3 күн бұрын

Exactly, anytime England a game now, there all gonna be like " where the haters at now" when in reality those fans have a right too be dissapointed. These mfkers almost lost too SLOVAKIA, HOW IN THE FUCK DO YOU ALMOST MANAGE THAT.

@Hartwik

3 күн бұрын

English fans have a track record of being terrible towards there players.​@@collapseddev1321

@kyletucker3811

3 күн бұрын

​... Bro I'm American, but have you not been seeing how Southgate and the team get covered? Every couple months people are calling for his job. I think more people in England want Southgate out than Americans that follow the sport want Berhalter out. When people are constantly calling for your job and by extension saying the players are playing poorly or being arrogant, no crap they develop a seige mentality. Professional athletes play with swagger, they should. Frankly the English fans seem like a bunch of whiny pricks that want to criticize players and not get called out for it. I just don't get that mentality. If you talk shit to professional athletes, they're going to take it personal. And if they choose to shove it back in your face that's on you. The entitled ones are the fans that think they can sit there online and talk shit about them and the athletes should just be good little boys and sit there and take it.

Totally understand why Bellingham celebrated like that especially with the way English media are. As a slovak though, DAMN did it ever make the most depressing day I've had in ages that much worse. After watching him throw elbows to the head any time he challenged for an aerial ball while on a yellow card and not receive even common fouls, it really sucked seeing him get to be the hero at the end. Usually I just dislike England's NT due to the way english media and fans act (and Southgate playing like that with the team he has) and have nothing against the players individually. His goal was more depressing because of the reaction I knew would follow from England, would love to see a single England fan just say it as it is: they got lucky, they have Jude's moment of brilliance to thank for it, and they were wrong to assume that it would be an easy win against Slovakia

I watched the BBC’s video of the goal from all angles the day after the game, didn’t realise at the time that Bellingham had Kane behind him, the lad turned 21 the day before and decided to whip out a bicey seconds before being knocked out of the euros with Englands top goal scorer behind him, HE IS HIM!

Just as a sidenote - 20 mins on a train in Bulgaria wouldn't even get you out of the train station.

Being an Englishman -- i freaking love Jude, he has something freaking special, he wasnt particularly good in that match, but turned up when we needed the most. I hate people ripping on him, the guy is gonna be on another planet in a couple of years.

If Jude wants to come to Wales or Canada, I am good with either, we will welcome him with open arms. I will never understand the mentality of fans or media. One reason I will never buy an English national top again is because how mental people are about them. They are like watching a car crash.

We were sat there all game complaining that no one looked like there was any passion. You can't turn around and moan when the passion comes out!

This Englishman says "Hear! hear!"

Even though he's over in Sweden (that's where he is, right?), there's still Peepo Frogiola to watch over him.

The entirety of the England squad has done nothing but be poor with *tiny* glimpses of luck and hope. We criticise them, and the vast majority of England players and Southgate have come out to complain at the criticism poured towards them. Harry Kane, Gareth Southgate and (much less so, but also) Jude Bellingham have been the worst offenders. If England win this tournament, I will be delighted. However, I think the first think these players will do is almost celebrate AT us rather than with us. They are poor. We criticise them. They cry NOW, I cheered like a loon when Jude scored. But the day after, we have to assess 93 minutes of the game, and not focus on the one moment that should’ve made it 4-1, not 1-1.

@fjcracing1318

3 күн бұрын

Also, Belgium suck and still would’ve won without VAR. Slov beating them does not make them a better team

@fjcracing1318

3 күн бұрын

These guys SHOULD hear us. They are awful. Embarrassing.

@fjcracing1318

3 күн бұрын

Also also also, hypotheticals aren’t stupid 🤦‍♂️ pfffffff

I have to say, as an Englishmen who LOVES football and I absolutely enjoy his swagger, his ego and his attitude!! He is, in my opinion, our greatest son!! Ignore the haters Jude!

1:00. To say Christian Pulišić and Bellingham in one sentence is crazy ☠️☠️☠️💀💀💀 Not only is he not half Bellingham, he's about 1/10 Bellingham

well the man is rewarded with a salary similar to that of a local town council budget (possibly more) so excuse me if I don't cry because Bellingham's feelings get a little bit hurt. Clutch goal tho, great player. But he's still just a guy, not a God.

Messi retired from international play bc of losing to chile in 2016, pressure present is immeasurable in tournaments like these

I went absolutley nuts when that goal went in, so I don't blame him for his celebration, It was magic! Jude is clearly a great player and you need a bit of arrogance to be a great player. The only thing wrong with him is he is a blue nose.

When someone acts like a mini Zlatan they should get all they deserve..

I mean, this is fandoms in general. We can criticize those who we are fans of, and they just have to take it no matter what. Fans are entitled.

It's a bit cringe as scrapping past Slovakia is not 'throwing it back' to anyone. With this squad we should be winning titles.

@NeilLewis77

2 күн бұрын

well.... does he mean throwing it back to people saying england are shit? or is he throwing back to nobheads who have started saying bellingham are shit? if he is talking about nobheads who try saying hes shit and overated then im all for it. if he is talking about lads like me that say england are shit because the manager sucks then ye hes a nobhead himself.

9:25 😂❤🇺🇸

Bellingham is confident/arrogant. In America that would be seen as a positive. In Britain its seen as a negative

@Valmerix

2 күн бұрын

literally everything in the UK is seen as a negative british people just hate everyone for any reason (i am british)

@jacksonconstantine5740

2 күн бұрын

Don’t conflate confident and arrogant. They’re not the same thing.

As an England hate-watcher (because the USMNT wants me to die a sad death) I was watching previews to this Eng v Slov game and the KZread channel “The Club” (I know they have minimal ball-knowledge) kept saying or insinuating that Bellingham is an incredibly arrogant person who told Southgate that he has to play as a 10 and won’t play if Southgate drops him deeper. It was baffling to see diehard fans assuming Bellingham is arrogant and not a team player like he’s never shown a non-team player attitude. I believe England fans put anger on Jude because they want their Premier League starboy Foden to play the 10 role but Bellingham is a better player so they shit on him for that reason.

@jacksonconstantine5740

2 күн бұрын

That’s nonsense. Bellingham is the better ten and everyone knows it. The issue isn’t the selection of Bellingham over Foden. It’s the half-assed performances, and the inept manager who refused to pick and play a left-footed left back, plays foden out of position rather than picking an actual left winger, and coached a team that had one shot on target in 90 mins against Slovakia.

@tinypardus

2 күн бұрын

Fucking clueless yank bullshit, the rest of the players are abused far more then Bellingham, but ignore that we need to glaze him more

I think the only person that has been more of an asshole about this than the people against Jude Bellingham is Zealand in this video

@KrazyJay9712

3 күн бұрын

Ye, he really missed the point on this one

@jacksonconstantine5740

2 күн бұрын

@@KrazyJay9712it’s just culture. The US is very different to the UK when it comes to ego and arrogance. Over there it’s expected, here it’s reviled.

@KrazyJay9712

2 күн бұрын

@@jacksonconstantine5740 I'm not from the UK. I have no problem with ego/arrogance. I loved Zlatan, Messi and CR7. My problem is that Jude talks the talk but when it comes to consequences he always behave like he did nothing. Did that with Kostic and now with the goal celebrations in front of the bench

@jacksonconstantine5740

2 күн бұрын

@@KrazyJay9712 I agree with you. I think Zealand got this one wrong, but that’s because he came at it from an American POV.

Reminds me of all the hate Ronaldo was getting when he was popping off in Man U.

5:17 on my life let dame miss a clutch shot next season

Sometimes it's not about if you celebrate or not, but how you celebrate. Taunting the fans of the other team is always an asshole move, but it is also part of football. I personally hate the behaviour of players like Bellingham or Vini, but I also don't like people who are trash talking on Social Media about the players. On the other hand we get more stuff to talk about with this. XD

Haha, Z you should try following an English club on England football twitter one season, any division won't make a difference (prem obviously best example) it's full of kids, incl. adults who are still kids mouthing off about things they know nothing about. When they mouthed off about NFFC buying so many players, they had no idea about our situation, they don't want to or care they just want to stick the boot in. And thats just who and how they are. Jude will know this. It's not as big a deal as you're making it here. Best examples are Liverpool fans & Man Utd fans, but every club has them. Including mine.

Every video they adjust the mic a little better

Yeeeeaaah well, that main character syndrome still kicks in lil too hard tho

This kind of backlash wouldn’t have happened if Harry Kane did the exact same thing

mate that haircut is a crime

Bellingham was telling the Slovaks about Hawk Tuah

My teammate scored a bike on a corner in u10.

yo zealand buy this mic fr i feel like jurgen klopp with that translator

i feel like win the tournament or not thats like nearly bellinghams magnum opus and people r complaining like what

@isaacainsworth4537

3 күн бұрын

They're not complaining about the goal they're complaining about the attitude of the team. They plaid awfully for 4 games now. Its not good enough

@gugga2745

3 күн бұрын

@@isaacainsworth4537 theyre complaining about the ego of the celebration. thats what this video is about. anything else is a different argument

@classonbread5757

3 күн бұрын

​@@gugga2745Why did he have to do that to Slovenia's bench? He can celebrate all he wants without being an asshole.

@jacksonconstantine5740

2 күн бұрын

@@gugga2745if you can’t see the connection between the two then you’re dense.

@gugga2745

2 күн бұрын

@@jacksonconstantine5740 no i see the connection, but just cuz the connection is there doesnt mean thats what this is talking about. if thats what ur arguing about then yea ur right and i agree, but that isnt what this video is about is what im saying

The thing you have to understand about the English is that they can't both have and enjoy something at the same time. Case in point, the draw gives England a very real chance to win the tournament. The English mind can't accept that and if they have to they certainly won't enjoy it.

@jacksonconstantine5740

2 күн бұрын

Where the hell have you got this from? We absolutely can, we just know that with the level of shit football that Southgate has “coached”, we’ll be lucky to reach the final no matter how good the draw is for us.

I’ve never felt more disconnected from my fellow Englishman more than this euros

On a real bro, you GLAZING lol.

Reality is, if he was being venerated, England fans would probably be accused of arrogance and overhyping him 😅

God has two sons. Jesus Christ and Jude Bellingham. What a guy.

A tangent to the video, I find it refreshing to hear Zea actually swear (rather than being bleeped). Regarding England and Jude. Ever since the end of the Terry Venables/Glenn Hoddle eras (regardless of what you think/thought of the men), England's men's NT have struggled with the concept of Best Players vs Best Team. You saw this with Sven effectively forcing Scholes to retire by always shunting him out on the left wing because the other three players HAD to be Beckham-Gerrard-Lampard, regardless of how well the trio actually performed together. And of course all four players got lambasted at one point because they weren't doing the magic they did for their clubs, ignoring the fact the team structure was set up to screw three out of the four. Here's the big problem. Whether it's right or wrong, England's fans were forced to realise the importance of tactical frameworks and using the right players in the right systems. There's an old football comic strip called "Roy of the Rovers" and it's legacy continues on with the concept of a team's single star pulling the team over the line, doing the impossible time and time again. Fans have always loved and respected players who did that. Gerrard for Liverpool (CL final), Roy Keane for United (Juventus CL Semi final), Beckham's FK vs Greece, and Bellingham's goal...BUT the fans are fed up with having to rely on these moments. Fans have got to the point where they don't want to have to rely on these moments to win or draw. Jude's goal was a great thing to celebrate, but in the back of fans' minds, they knew it meant something bad. They knew it would be used by Southgate to continue doing the same terrible thing that meant England needed Jude to perform that feat of magic in the first place. Fans want Jude to have the freedom to do those pieces of magic whenever he wants for as long as he wants, but they're sick and tired of having to rely on people like him because the team is playing so terrible. Sir Alex's United was famous for last gasp winners and equalisers. But the point wasn't that they played for those, it was that they tried to win (nearly) every match and continued fighting for that win right until the end. 2 shots on target and the first non injury substitution by Soutgate was in the 84' minute. The second was in the 94. No matter how great it felt to have Jude score and England stay in the game, THOSE stats were in the back of fans' minds. And no manager should look at Jude's magic, look at how late those subs were, look at the fact the only shots on target were the goals, and think "see, everything worked out for the best. No need to worry."

why are we using twitter like it's that important of a voice in this arguments? this seems like an odd thing to do

I just wanna say that pulisic is glazed by america more than jude is by the rest of the world

@scottbrayton9484

3 күн бұрын

You mean my glorious king the LeBron James of soccer???? 🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲🦅🦅🦅🦅🎆🎆🎆

@kyletucker3811

3 күн бұрын

Captain America glazer reporting for duty. 🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲