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@rafaelbrites3607

6 күн бұрын

get your game on. about aoi, no gril got a bad treatment like her in all the yu gi oh history. They made her suffer just because she was a woman. and she deserved to had a rematch against spectre.

@SinEater_

6 күн бұрын

I love Jotaro's mom. She's always so happy-go-lucky and sweet. She loves her son and sees through his fake exterior. Is she particularly well written? No. But, it almost feels like that one guy that you knew in school who's mom was always incredibly caring for him and he would vehemently defend if anyone ever said anything about.

@evilsworn2901

6 күн бұрын

When you started talking about how something real important is treated as an easteregg in MGS. I felt that. I also feel MGS games by and large are B-plots and fanfics of the genuine story happening around them.

@oriongold395

6 күн бұрын

Kamen, you should also talk about women characters in Kamen Rider as well, especially when it comes to some characters like Yua Yaiba AKA Kamen Rider Valkyrie from Kamen Rider Zero-One.

@ThatguycalledJoe

5 күн бұрын

You could cut off over half of that first link and still get there, you know.

Can't suck at writting women if you don't write about women to begin with, Checkmate

@dominocut2963

7 күн бұрын

Or just not write with the gender in mind

@anubis7457

7 күн бұрын

@@dominocut2963Don’t write gender. Only write about neuter aliens.

@HeilRay

7 күн бұрын

genius!

@dominocut2963

7 күн бұрын

@@anubis7457 EXACTLY

@the_apotecary_from_tf2

6 күн бұрын

​@@anubis7457Orks Warhammer 40k

I honestly think Pomni is a really well-written character. The first episode just didn’t give her enough opportunity to express what kind of person she really is.

@pickyphysicsstudent201

7 күн бұрын

Right now she comes across as rather onenote and "audience surrogate". They are really playing into her innonce & vulnerability which are good things to make us sympathise with her so much, with this kind of story. Right now she is kind of the absence of writing, being filled in by fanon headcanons and whatever you can picture her doing. There is no wrong answer with her.

@dokuganryu1565

7 күн бұрын

@@pickyphysicsstudent201 Seeing as there's been only 1 ep aside from the pilot I guess that's just fine.

@anubis7457

7 күн бұрын

@@pickyphysicsstudent201Innocence? She abandoned Ragatha as soon as the exit popped up lol. She’s got a degree of selfishness in here.

@CountSpartula

7 күн бұрын

​@@pickyphysicsstudent201There are literally only two episodes released so far you genetic pretzel.

@googleisevil8958

7 күн бұрын

@@anubis7457 To be fair she looked as though she was willing to help Ragatha until she touched her hand and Pomni saw her own started to glitch. Remember Ponmi was thrown into a digital world. She just met these people and is learning about the world around her. The latest episode showed her feeling more at home with these people. Slowly getting more accustomed to them. We'll probably see her open up more and more as the series continues.

The giveaway sign of when incompetent writers try to write women is they give the woman character all the traits that would be considered "toxic masculinity" if they were written for a guy - arrogant, stoic, promiscuous, emotionally abusive, take unnecessary risks, prefer the violent solutions over diplomatic ones, potty-mouth - and then pitch that as a "strong female character".

@marocat4749

6 күн бұрын

And the thing is you can do that , dunno i thought xena the warrior proincess was literally written that way and her warlording, is toxic masculinity. Just that ita also about her growth and recovery and its a point that she has to make up for a lot, most of all to herself. That she cant forgive herself the most and has to learn to accept kindness and that. Because she kinda is toxi masculine. Or revy from black lagoon, revy is that, its just clear its out of trauma and she is a tragic character , she is badass and complex, but also tragic. She got the violence to kill anyone in a fight but is no better. I mean it can be good writing to do that, if its actually shown as flawed .

@aquapendulum

6 күн бұрын

@@marocat4749 The last part is important. The framing of "strong" is part of the giveaway sign. Traits like those in a character shouldn't be framed as "strong", something to be proud of, but rather flaws. Without that framing, Revy turns into the twins in Wolfenstein Youngblood.

@mikzpwnz_3199

6 күн бұрын

So they either have a parody of the male action hero as the basis or one that's at the start of a character arc yet don't include the humbling event that causes them to start their development, or worse, have the "development" be that they were already perfect and it was everyone else just holding her back.

@D_YellowMadness

6 күн бұрын

@@marocat4749 Revi's one of the worst characters ever written & her trauma just makes it even more unforgivable that she tried to sell a kid. It's no surprise that the writer didn't understand/care about the nuance of writing an SA victim though, considering he's promoted SA drawings of Revi. He's just a gross person who likes having excuses to write gross things.

@sunlitsonata6853

5 күн бұрын

Those traits can be considered good writing, another great example besides Revy being Eva Ushiromiya from Umineko, but the important thing is to show these are FLAWS as a person and the ramifications of such.

Lately my process of writing women has been writing a character first and then flip a coin to decide gender

@vinroycrossman-walker6465

7 күн бұрын

I respect your method.

@mikonyx7712

7 күн бұрын

Sounds kinda fun to be honest

@mr.j3rs3y

6 күн бұрын

Seriously writing a character is writhing a character! It wouldn’t matter who I wrote for though, because I’m not a good writer XD.

@abbyadventure5689

6 күн бұрын

W pfp

@the_apotecary_from_tf2

6 күн бұрын

Same I then realized i'm bad at DRAWING women

"write a character and his objective, everything else comes second" i think that should be the modus operandi for writing characters

@phorchybug3286

6 күн бұрын

Like a dead inside husk of a skull that demands motivation from a world that doesn't exist in his mind? That's what my brain feels like.

@Januaryof28

2 күн бұрын

@@phorchybug3286 emo brain maxxing

@Januaryof28

2 күн бұрын

sounds like a villain would be easier to do this for especially if theyre not human like sukuna

One of the issues with Millie is that Vivzie only seems to know how to write three kinds of characters. Those with daddy issues, those in toxic relationships and those with daddy issues who are in toxic relationships.

@hewwo69

9 сағат бұрын

Say it louder for those in the back

@gaaraxnaru

9 сағат бұрын

Fizz is none of those, though. I think that's why he stands out so much, lol.

@csrjjsmp

4 сағат бұрын

That’s why it works. Write what you know is advice for a reason. If you try to write a character you don’t under stand or empathize with, nobody will like it. If your range is very narrow maybe not many people will enjoy it but there will at least be some

I'm kinda weirded out by the amount of "gender doesn't matter in writing characters!" in the comments because while this approach is like... good first step, you know, thinking about them as human first male/female second, it's important to still have it in mind. It's as much as a trait as somebody's age, race, sexuality, nationality... It shouldn't define them, but it is a factor you shouldn't just completly push it to the side. It's a part of their experience in the world and good writing should take that into account. And tbh this approach can lean to "writing man, slapping boobs on them"... Or denouncing femininity of the characters, because it "doesn't matter" after all.

@D_YellowMadness

6 күн бұрын

In a lot of situations though, that's only part of their personality the same way that sitting in chairs is part of a human's personality because chairs fit our bodies & sitting on the floor sucks It's good to keep in. A character can feminine or masculine regardless of whether they're female or male. You're right that it should be kept in mind to some degree though. Otherwise, you have characters not knowing things that basic life experience should have taught them because you forgot that their gender has different experiences from yours.

@PGOuma

5 күн бұрын

Not all women are "feminine" though... Whatever that means... It's different all over the world...

@anisecandy3108

4 күн бұрын

@@PGOuma Where did I say that they are?

@emblemblade9245

2 күн бұрын

You are absolutely correct OP. It’s certainly a good reproach to the problems modern Hollywood often has with writing its females but it’s more of a baseline of progress than the end all be all

@whiten4635

10 сағат бұрын

I fo agree with the statement but I also understand the method of writing a character and their struggle and deciding their gender. It really depends on the plot, story, and problem. Not all problem, character development requires gender to be a center piece. There are a lot of well written characters that can definitely be written for both male and female. ALTHOUGH gender and identity those make a characters writing more compelling and often leads to stronger relatability and impact.

Jolyne is definitely a great example. Someone who doesn't feel like a carbon copy of Jotaro but definitely feels influenced by Arakis previous work regardless.

@IPlayKindred

4 күн бұрын

jolyne is so cool, she's the perfect example of a well written female character. because araki stated himself there's beraly any difference between writing women and men.

@titaniumcranium3755

3 күн бұрын

That's because araki didn't write her with his dick

No Kamen, it's not about women, it's about writers sucking in general at everything in the last decade

@Based_Gigachad_001

7 күн бұрын

True.

@anubis7457

7 күн бұрын

New writing philosophy is NO subtlety and NO nuance. One side is clearly right, and one side is a Nazi.

@Zerorenren4761

7 күн бұрын

Yeah.

@theshinypeliper8813

7 күн бұрын

Exactly

@MrSpartan993

6 күн бұрын

Damn right.

I got asked this by a friend who was also writing a story, because I happened to be a woman who was writing a cast of characters, among them a female lead... All I said was: Just write a character that happens to be a woman. Don't focus on her gender *unless* it plays an important role in the plot, but even so don't make it her personality or shoehorn it. Same applies to a queer character, or a character of a certain ethnicity. Just write a character and a story that happened to be what they are, dont have it be the focus.

@marocat4749

6 күн бұрын

And you can do changes later. like rewrites are a thing and if there need to be changes, later.

I didn’t realize I sucked at writing female characters 😢

@casualdanattempts

7 күн бұрын

Now you know, I guess.

@thegreatjohnjohnson4016

7 күн бұрын

I didn’t even realize women were real?

@casualdanattempts

7 күн бұрын

@@thegreatjohnjohnson4016 lol they're not!!! ...are they?

@MoostachedSaiyanPrince

6 күн бұрын

​@@casualdanattemptsAccording to modern political beliefs, they aren't, because the only separation between men and women according to them is your own decision at any given moment. Meaning that everyone's a woman if you think about it. And you know what they say: when everyone's a woman, nobody is.

@mikzpwnz_3199

6 күн бұрын

​@@MoostachedSaiyanPrince Though given that there's a plethora of policies that come from the foundation of, and therefore imply to be the case, that Women are disadvantaged, there's no logically sound and rational reasoning to be a woman. To choose to be disadvantaged in doing so is Very irrational, like choosing to sever your own limb.

I love how Jolyne grows as a female protagonist from the beginning to end. That's why she's my favorite Jojo after her own dad, Jotaro.

@emblemblade9245

2 күн бұрын

Jolyne’s growth is amazing and it makes me so mad when people act like Johnny is the only Jojo with character development

Me, who doesn't write anything that makes a single lick of sense: I don't have such weakness

As much of meme Digital Circus can be, I really love Pomni's character so far. She definitely has attributes of anxiety that's all the rage these days, but she does have her moments where she isn't just a doormat like how she expresses her frustration with people like Jax, and her scenes of Gumigoo displays her compassionate side really well.

I saw a Reddit post about writing women today and it gave ten tips that basically said write a woman like a normal person and not a sack of fat/just a love interest

It was surreal seeing Aoi (Blue Angel) in the thumbnail. This genuinely seems like one of the only channels which talks about Yugioh outside of typical Yugitubers. Its strange to think that Yugioh had like zero cultural impact, even in interent culture in the 2010s (Zexel, Arc-V & VRAINS) there was no discussion of Yugioh besides maybe YGOTAS. It wouldn't surprise me if the average person believed Yugioh ended back in the 00s.

@Mangakamen

7 күн бұрын

I mean, I know a couple of others, and I am planning a yugioh video next week about a certain character...

@DarkPrince-yj1vf

7 күн бұрын

​@@MangakamenLet me guess Crow?

@ryanaing5302

7 күн бұрын

Yeah, I've noticed that not many KZreadrs ever talk about the Yugioh anime, outside of the Yugioh-centered Youtbers. The same goes for Digimon and what happened with Ghost Game, being the trainwreck that it is.

@mythicalclouds5731

7 күн бұрын

Now that i think about it the closest thing that was ever relevant from Yugioh was that "It should have been me" meme.

@riotkitty

6 күн бұрын

Nah the anime hype train picked back up with Arc V, likely due to the dimension hopping aspect and sick character design. It was actually insane being in card shops and people had entire binders organized to a tee with the anime characters’ cards. So many custom mats and sleeves featuring them, booths even. Talking about the latest episodes, crazy theory videos we all saw. Not as much as Duel Monsters cause that is the OG, but still. And then it dropped back down again with Vrains and especially the Rush era Yugioh.

Ironically, my second book is going to have a female protagonist just as my side series features one as well.

@Mangakamen

7 күн бұрын

Good luck!

@bluedragonstudios9004

7 күн бұрын

@@Mangakamen thanks, and so far i am currently going through editing suggestions of my second book after my editor looked through it.

@bluedragonstudios9004

6 күн бұрын

And also so far in terms of my side series that I called TIS Epics, I have a prologue and the first chapter released so far

I heard somewhere: “don’t write female characters, white characters that happen to be female.” edit. I think i made a echo chamber.

@Mangakamen

7 күн бұрын

yup

@teslapunk5999

7 күн бұрын

Agreed

@clamthechef2389

7 күн бұрын

Quite so.

@Based_Gigachad_001

7 күн бұрын

That goes for literally everything.

@undyne1

7 күн бұрын

It's not an echo-chamber, it's a mutual agreement towards *facts.*

I really like your analysis on how to write a female character or a character in general and acknowledge that you are not a professional just someone who loves writing, drawing and characters in general, totally a subscriber now❤

@Mangakamen

7 күн бұрын

Welcome aboard and hope you enjoy my future videos :)

One consistency I've noticed with Helluva Boss is how they handle the backstories. Most of the male characters get proper flashbacks, while the female ones tend to be just exposition (besides Loona's which as you mentioned was from Blitzo's POV rather than her''s). Barbie Wire isn't in any of the circus flashbacks with Fizz or Blitz either for some reason for example. It takes away a layer of humanity, sort of a 'take our word on it, WE can be trusted' from how the girls are viewing things. Now I don't know whether this is an intentional format or not, because its sister show certainly doesn't do this (see Vaggie's backstory), in fact Hazbin Hotel despite arguably having far less morally dubious females I'd argue does a much better job humanizing them and making them feel like complex vulnerable characters that are growing (Charlie's arc in particular is a total deconstruction of the supporting female, she actively TRIES to be the unhumanized messiah for everyone but has to accept she is a flawed character with her own baggage to tend to). It leaves me wondering whether Helluva just actively chooses to keep the females in supporting roles, to make it clearer it is Blitzo's show, or is planning to blindside us at some point with some big context (or alternatively wanted to but couldn't, given I've heard varying stories of personal events prevented Loona's VA performing as much as they wanted). Like Season Two is clearly more about Blitzo coming to terms with his vices, maybe after he's developed, the other characters will have their shortcomings developed more, now they can confide in a more matured Blitzo.

5:15 That Ruby slide! XD Really miss the days of Volume 1, when she was the actual protagonist...

@Mangakamen

6 күн бұрын

I mean, she grew into becoming a protag - it's just that the writers really dragged their heels.

@TwilightWolf032

6 күн бұрын

@@Mangakamen Too little too late, though.

How to write a female character: Step 1: Write a character Step 2: Make it female

The irony of the editor gag is that it just gave the editor more work 💀

I was actually surprised that Pomni became calm and relatable to gumigoo. It's like she had only 2 episodes of character development.

Seeing Aoi (Skye) Zaizen is so fitting. She’s a true victim of the wharf effect. She’s reportedly strong and battles big bads, but she catches so few Ws that it’s hard to not feel bad for her (especially after her face plant)

@BurningAzure

6 күн бұрын

And hell, her overall arc outside of that makes her probably my favorite character in Vrains (I don't think her duel with Spectre regresses her character btw).

12:35 It actually makes sense that Divine survives getting eaten by Ccarayhua. After all, every soul that was sacrificed to the Earthbound Immortals get restored to life once the Earthbound Immortal that has their souls inside of it pops.

29:46 I’ve been thinking for a while now that Yukako was robbed of having a bigger part in finding Kira. As he essentially almost murdered Koichi, the boy she loves and does kill Aiya, the one responsible for helping her and Koichi to get together. So it seems like a missed opportunity.

@KirbyFrontier

6 күн бұрын

Part 4 in general seems like lots of characters were meant to have much larger roles after Kira's reveal (including a panel showing all of them together with a determined look on their face) but for whatever reason, that idea got dropped and the remainder of that series only had Josuke and Rohan as the main characters for the most part (with Koichi getting one battle vs Sheer Heart Attack and Yukako getting the Cinderalla one which wasn't related to Kira at all and that's it). Part 8, which is practically the Part 4 of the new timeline, ended up having the same issue, probably for the same reasons (likely Araki wanted a large cast of good guys like Part 4 but ended up being unable to utilize it, again like Part 4)

Your words at the beginning remind me of Star Wars The Acolyte. At least from what I’ve seen, all of the women are stoic and inexpressive. They don’t have any human parts to them, a personality, likes & dislikes. I think that’s why the ‘strong female’ archetype has largely been loathed as of late. Cause of a lack of humanity and feeling like real people to be relatable. Hey Loona and Milly may not have the deepest characters but at least they have humanity in them, personality, relationships, etc.

12:59 It was actually Carly’s Japanese voice actress who was in hot water. Akiza was affected by proxy because the writers tried to remove all cult aspects due to the controversy.

The way I see is that the issue with the "write characters first, traits (like if it's male, female or other) later" is that these traits might also be fundamental to the characters, what kind of story does the writer want to tell? Depending on that question, these traits can be more or less important

People talking about Pomni when Ragatha and Gangle are right there

@midnightgamer2088

3 күн бұрын

But they aren’t as developed yet

I like donuts is that good enough of a comment?

@VoltFall

7 күн бұрын

Ngl that's a good opinion Plain or?

@jacktyger5436

7 күн бұрын

Yes I like donuts too

@suncoxk

7 күн бұрын

@@jacktyger5436 cool👍

@andresvargas119

6 күн бұрын

Yes it is my guy

Forgot. Jujutsu's only skilled female sorcerer in season 2 ended into incest... Ugghh... There was also a bluehaired girl who seemed to have a Lot in development only to end with pseudo Geto casually breaking her weapon

@GuiltlessGear

6 күн бұрын

I actually laughed when that fucking happened not because i thought it was funny, but because "of COURSE he'd pull some shit like this."

I feel like one of the hardest parts about trying to write a female character nowadays is dealing with the inevitable waifu-chasers. By that, I refer to people who hate slow burns, don't want to wait for more than maybe one or two seasons for the character who they want to claim as a waifu to get over their personal issues and turn into someone they can ship with an OC or outright self insert, and end up creating this personally idealized version of the character in their minds, only to get really pissy when the character doesn't turn out like that in canon. Another thing I've noticed over time is that a lot of people who try and criticize writing choices for shows still in their early seasons are usually people who are used to writing one off, individual short stories or, for the slightly more qualified, amateur novels, rather than long, drawn out things that would last across multiple seasons' worth of time. These people really don't know quite as much of what they're talking about as they like to proclaim. Yes, you're writers, but for things that are self contained and much shorter than a show that's planned to last for several years. And finally, something that I touched on in the first part of this comment but am going to explain a bit more in depth: People hate waiting these days. I've noticed that ANY time a character from some indie webtoon or show or whatever gets a massive online following, people start scrambling to try and basically write the character themselves instead of waiting to see how things go in canon. People end up creating this idealized version of a character for themselves, and end up growing more attached to their idealized version of that character than to the actual canon version of that character, to the point that they start to feel like anything the writers for the actual show do with that character that deviates from their own idealized version of them is "bad writing". So in short, stop trying to push writers to rush character developments just so you can have your waifus, shut up and learn some patience, and for the love of god people, go outside, touch grass, and talk to some real women instead of getting overly attached to fictional female characters. I'm sorry that this is so bitingly rude, but this is stuff that's been frustrating me for a while. Yes, writing for stuff has gotten worse these days, but you know what? So have fanbases.

@Cardboard449

6 күн бұрын

It’s kinda what happened to the purple bunny guy in digital circus, or maybe not, it’s more like people didn’t like him anymore because he acted like a jerk in the 1st episode.

@PGOuma

5 күн бұрын

No, you're definitely spot on!!

@emblemblade9245

2 күн бұрын

You’re so freaking right

In the case for Luna, her voice actor had to take some time off because her boyfriend had died, so luna didn’t get a lot of screen time, which doesn’t help with her character development

@draccqueen1770

6 күн бұрын

This is a common misconception. These were recorded before that happened. Her being left out was mostly to save money.

@tster

5 күн бұрын

That's an excuse. There's to much time that passed to use that as an excuse.

Its simple give them positive and negative traits, treat them like characters that folks would/can actually care about. Show how strong are but vulnerable. Give them a compelling backstory as well as a dynamic relationship with other characters that bounce around one another.

I think this goes for any person writing a character: make sure they’re fulfilling whatever role they’re given to the best of their ability. Minor or major. If they’re minor characters, probably don’t need complex characterization and instead is affective at conveying to the audience their impact, however minuscule. It is interesting that this video brings up Jojo’s as my favorite lady in that series is Erina Pendleton, the apple of Jonathan Joestar’s eye. I find her to be great at the roles she’s given, as a girlfriend, as a loving wife who never found another man, an equally loving mother & grandmother who acts as a stern moral compass while carrying on her husband’s legacy. She mattered & fit in the story in her own perfectly ordinary way with not much development, and that is just fine. Thats also kinda why I don’t particularly mind that Millie doesn’t really have character development, because her role in Helluva Boss fits her specifically, it doesn’t need much complexity. Loona on the other hand, while she was initially just a secondary character, as the plot focused more on her, she should’ve gotten to feel more important in her role in the story. For someone like Blue Angel, it is way more important for her character to develop as she was given a greater impression of being the female lead of Vrains. More major role, more major character, therefore there must be greater importance on development or at least being consistent instead of regressing.

Man, Videogame, Movie, TV-Series etc. Writers nowadays should take notes from this.

I'm going to watch this and keep yugioh female characters in mind the entire time

Tbh, as a woman, i dont think advise of "just write a character that happened to be a woman" is apropriate for many cases. Women and men, depending on time and location of the story, have different social expectations and pressures, their expiriences can be vastly different and(more often than not)they were raised in gendered ways. That doesn't mean that a female character should 24/7 brag about sexism,and it shouldn't be her entire character. Just dont make "I'm a woman" her defining trait

GET YOUR GAME ON, KAMEN

A new Mangakamen video *YES*

I'm going through Lost Judgment myself at the moment. I want to mention that there is an Eastern approach to writing female characters that is different to Western writers. That is what is feminine is a little different. Recognizing what both are helps raise awareness for feminine traits to write women. I think you'd have made a stronger point if you had focused on what's feminine about these women. For example had Jolene have been a boy, what would be different about being in prison? What feminine strengths benefits Jolene character now that she's in this tough situation?

Yu-Gi-Oh's issues arguably largely stem from the influence of Yoshida Shin, who basically took the mantle as the main creative director after Takahashi retired from the franchise. The guy outright admits he is uncomfortable with writing female characters and he obviously has issues with playing favorites. As soon as the Bridge series started they came out swinging with a whole lineup of great female characters and the largest complaint that can be hedged against the Bridge anime on a character writing perspective is that it has so many characters that are worth following it's really hard to balance out the screentime.

@BurningAzure

6 күн бұрын

Hell, there are actually some male characters I think get thrown under the bus more than Aoi in Vrains.

@brunosanto3488

Күн бұрын

Funny, but I feel like SEVENS had that problem more than GO RUSH. SEVENS had a bigger cast and several of them, who are important, had to be left aside or put in the background since the focus had to be placed on the Main Group (see Goha Siblings) GO RUSH does not have a very large cast, but it knows who its Main Characters are and who its recurring Supporting Characters are. The rest is a complement or is in the background.

Get your game on

GET YOUR GAME ON! 🤠

Examples I can give for well written female characters are Katara, Toph, Azula, Ty Lee, and Mai from Avatar: The Last Airbender. Katara took on the role of a maternal figure after her mother's death therefore she's the most responsible of the group. Over the course the story she develops into a reliable Waterbender and friend while facing her own flaws: At one point she tracks down a former Fire Nation soldier responsible for her mother's murder with the intent to kill him out of revenge until Zuko talks her out of it Toph was heavily sheltered by her overprotective parents due to her blindness and out of rebellion runs away from home, learned her style of earthbending from badger moles, and participated in an Earthbending fighting ring as reigning champion. She comes off as fiercely independent and stubborn, misinterpreting friendly gestures as an act of pity for her disability, but after meeting Iroh learns that her friends care about her as a person not as a fragile weakling her parents see her in their eyes Azula took on her father Ozai's cruelty and lust for power even in early childhood where she believed fear is what brings respect from others. Being Ozai's favorite along with her manipulative and calculating mind is what makes Azula a dangerous foe to Team Avatar. The eventual betrayal of her best friends Mai and Ty Lee, Ozai chastising her for failing to kill Aang, obsession with killing her own brother Zuko, not being allowed to participate in the siege of Ba Sing Se, belief that her mother Ursa favored Zuko because she sees her as a monster, and paranoia about possible assassinations upon being left in charge of the Fire Nation throne are factors that contributed to Azula's eventual mental breakdown after her defeat by Katara and Zuko Ty Lee grew up with six identical sisters receiving little attention from her parents leading to her running away to the circus to stand out. Mai's parents were heavily involved in politics so she was ordered to stay quiet and well behaved. Though she was rewarded for obeying her parents' wishes she developed an indifferent personality as a result which got worse after her brother was born Mai was largely ignored. They were best friends with Azula during their childhood though it was more out of fear due her intimidating nature and cohorts in hindering Team Avatar until they eventually cut ties with Azula after witnessing her vicious nature and total disregard for people becoming casualties in her conquest The other examples of badly written female characters are...Marinette and Chloe from Miraculous Ladybug.. Marinette has stalker tendencies towards Adrien, receives no repercussions for her actions that kicks off the plot of an episode, her friends enabling her obsession especially Alya being the worst offender, abusing the Ladybug Miraculous to keep other girls from getting with Adrien, mistreats Cat Noir which got worse in seasons 4 and 5, an unlikable Mary Sue, and the creator's favoritism towards the character Chloe...ooh boy was she done dirty in the show...🤦‍♀️ Earlier seasons had her as the typical spoiled brat who bullies her classmates and acting condescending towards others resulting in them getting akumatized by Hawk Moth. Starting season 3 she accidentally receives the Bee Miraculous and initially misused its power to gain attention but after getting called out by Ladybug for her selfish recklessness she learns to be a responsible superhero, thus starts the beginning of her redemption arc. Chloe was slowly developing into a remorseful person finally seeing the errors of her ways as we learn her bratty behavior stems from her neglectful mother hardly acknowledging her existence, but of course because of Thomas Astruc's hatred for the character Chloe was regressed to being an insufferable brat with sociopathic tendencies for unexplained reasons and is easily manipulated by both Monarch and Lila into being their pawn 'til they cast her aside after fulfilling her usefulness and she gets exiled to New York with her abusive mother by her father. Chloe's character assassination is infamous for being a red flag for a once popular show gaining notoriety for all the wrong reasons because of the creator's bias attitude towards his characters going too far

okay, this is gonna be a *wild* recommendation, but here it goes: Homestuck has one of the best written Female characters i have *ever* seen in Media

@ArmageddonD11

7 күн бұрын

if you're referring to Vriska then prepare for Strife...

@poliswag6666

7 күн бұрын

@@ArmageddonD11 Nooo.. not Vriska, im tired of that egghead lmao

@D_YellowMadness

6 күн бұрын

Homestuck is full of well written female characters. Not sure how to feel about Vriska though. She was written to be awful on purpose but well... She sure is awful.

Nice touch using Rouge's theme in your video ❤🥰

Man, the shots at Zexal will never not bug me, but the one about Tori is something I agree with. Well, that's what opinions are, as its my third favorite yugioh series its characters and Yuma, in my opinion, having some of the best growth out of yugioh protags. But hey, great video as always Kamen. Honestly, this was a nice topic of discussion, cause at the end of the day, male and female characters are just that. They're characters, concepts, and just like a fine piece of art, it takes effort and care to make something that's not dull or super poor. Be it protag or side character, just a bit of effort goes a long way into making a character feel less one note. It might not be the best end, but that's okay, there's always room to improve as long as you try, just as long as you put the care and love into make it something you can be proud of. And honestly, if you're worried about fudging something, asking for help or opinions is still an option. Not the wisest of words but this is what i believe for anything you enjoy doing honestly.

@esteban8471

Күн бұрын

As a Zexal fan, I agree with this comment. Zexal had such good characters and storylines that the dub just butchered. It was so bad that people treated Zexal like a plague for years. In a weird twist of irony, the show that was about an underdog fighting the overwhelming cosmic odds stacked against him because an underdog in the franchise.

"My written women are purposely bad because it is part of the plot. Get rekt critics!" - some guy purposely writing women wrong because it is part of the plot.

Geez I'm way early. AWESOME

32:16 I had to watch that part a second time, I got caught off guard by the premise of sentient plankton trying to kill someone.

Oh boy! Something I legit need advice on!

I don't think Blue Angel vs. Spectre backtracks the former's character at all. If you really want to see backtracking in the same series, Go Onizuka (George Gore if you're a filthy dub watcher) in Season 2 is pretty much a textbook example of this. Go Onizuka: *Learns to focus on what he cherishes over his own personal fame* Also Go Onizuka: *Becomes a bounty hunter to catch Playmaker and reclaim his fame*

@ryanaing5302

6 күн бұрын

It still felt insulting that she lost like that and is still an issue. You think there's any other way they could've gone with that?

@thatman666

6 күн бұрын

I used to think Aoi and Go would be great successors to Yuzu and Gongenzaka respectively. Nowadays, I'm baffled how the formers aren't Lost Incident kids and Gongenzaka is an underrated character.

...always nice to hear someone using Lunatea's Veil music time to time... such an under-rated series.

i watch a 40 minute video just to get a lesson that i already form after your first exemple... it made for a good laugh still the exemples you showcase were interesting to explore

Hey, I don't suck at writing women. There are way too many of them with different character traits and goals for EVERY SINGLE ONE of them to be badly written from a single perspective or ideal. Rosetta in particular is one of my best. She's promiscuous, yes, but far from being clingy or overly lusty. Harsh, but not heartless, and certainly not emotionless. Likes liquor, and consistently holds to the trait. Finally, she has a reasonable goal that ties her to rivals and antagonist. Is she strong? She's an oc. Take a wild guess.

Kamen. Given the topic of this. I think it's going to be considered one of the most controversial videos you've ever made. Not that I'm complaining.

Reminds me of Its Always Sunny where the character of Dee was not written as well at the start. Then the actress said that make her deranged as the rest of the cast and her traits as the women will do the rest . And it worked wonders especially with her baby dependent attempts with the IRS

Always found it interesting that you use the colors red and blue in thumbnails. Pretty certain in Eastern media (Anime for example), red is used to represent the good and blue represents the bad. Now that might not be always the case, but you can see it happening in multiple anime, a big example being Naruto (Naruto is red while Sasuke is blue).

3:16 I haven't tried catching up to Helluva Boss, but I think in Millie's defense, she doesn't need any more goals than to be with Moxie and live her life that way she loves it to. I dunno much about Loona's character though so yeah.

@Mangakamen

3 күн бұрын

Yeah, and that's kind of a problem - There are NO goals.

@Mangakamen

21 сағат бұрын

"I think it's already a goal for a character to have a good relationship and to live life in a way that makes them happy. If a relationship isn't considered enough of a "goal" then that would mean that all romance/slice-of-life stories are "bad"" Alright... Then why? Why do they want that goal? What is the motivation to get that? Not to mention, when there's an attempt to characterize a character, it's best that they not just be reliant on another character. Otherwise, they just become a tool for the other character. Also... Millie already accomplished that goal. You seem to be ignoring that part. "This really comes off like an extremely narrow way of looking at characters and stories overall." That's called projection

@bomb1515

21 сағат бұрын

I meant that Millie has an in-character reason not to be ambitious, she is content with what and who she has. Again, I only left off on Season 2, Episode 2 and my lazy bum doesn't want to bother catching up, so I could be very wrong. Maybe Millie has goals that flew under my radar.

*Get Your Game On* *You are a Modest Alcoholic, Kamen.* *What is your opinion on Vinnie from The Indie Cartoon, Ramshackle?* 6:05 Loona is still in her Tsundere Phase. You know, let’s compare her to another American Tsundere. Cindy From Jimmy Neutron. Cindy is also a secondary character and even as a antagonist at times. Cindy always mocks, ridicule and even physically assaulted Jimmy. But later on Cindy still acknowledges and bring ups positive and important things that Jimmy has done in the past. And it can work the same with Loona despite how Loona has treated Blitz throughout the show, in the Beelzebub episode, where Loona was Anxious being at Beelzebub’s party Loona call Bltiz for help. Loona, at part Loona proudly shouts out that’s her dad. She even asked if Bltiz is okay. Hopefully later episodes Loona Will acknowledge her own mistakes of how treated blitz, if he actually starts to pushed her away. What is Millie’s goal in Hellvoa boss? Even the short episode, while it is cute but there is no expansion of Millie as a character. They could do a Sibling Rivalry between Millie and her sister, expanding the fact Millie’s Sister can compete in Rodeo tournament while she can’t. There could’ve been parental favoritism toward Millie’s Sister. We don’t even know what is Millie’s life was, before going Freelance. 21:27 Dumbsville intercept the Call. 22:15 Yes. *The Femme Fatale* I bet Naked Snake enjoys getting step on. 30:07 There were criticisms back then before Stone Ocean became an anime, of people of japan said Jolyene looks too Masculine. B!t¢h, please. Jolyne has muscles because *she’s in prison* Jolyne needs to get tougher to defend herself but Jolyne is does not make Jolyne masculine. Jolyne’s catchphrase Yara Yara Dawa is supposed to a feminine version of Jotaro’s Catchphrase. What is your opinion on Anasui? Anasui was intentionally plan to be a female. But Araki change it as he said Anasui goes beyond strands of beauty of genders” Do You think Anasui is Good love Interests for Jolyne? I know you hate Crow but what is your opinion on Anasui and Jolyne. Is well developed or it is rush? I have skip lost in Judgement part. I don’t want you spoiled the game for me, Kamen! 36:51 Okay I peek. I want say Eastward’s writing ending Cycle of Violence is better compare to last of us part 2. Even The Boss fight with Isabel is better choreographic for Eastward’s narrative. If Eastward gets a Sequel, Isabel should be the protagonist. *How would Isabel the Knight can go on when she failed to protect her princess* There interesting plot point that Isabel maybe a Robot. But never acknowledged again. 37:20 Men are not allowed to write female is dumb. 38:06 Is there like a female character who is a Jacka$$ you do like, Kamen? Like Jerk characters still has a charm and is still like. For example Jax from Digital circus he is a-hole there people who still like him. Yes, there other who don’t like him. And that dumb morally grey defense. I like Zim from invader. He is jerk but he has charm to it. You like Travis from No Heroes game. Yes, I know you told me he has character development and aware of his flaws. What I want to know what is Female who is Jerk character that is still likable and entertaining.

@bloodysimile4893

6 күн бұрын

There has been no such evidence that Anasui was intentionally going to be female. Rather Anasui gender was desgin not to be clear. Anasui gender argument how the same weight as Pucci being black Nd can'tbe whether brother. yes, that is an argument I heard. People need to stop speed reading.

@commonsense5199

6 күн бұрын

@@bloodysimile4893 Araki literally drew Anasui as women in the Manga.

But don’t you sort or need some characters that aren’t well fleshed out and stuff? Ones that are ultimately more narrative tools or background dressing or whatever? There is only so much you can flesh out after all, and that has the chance to fractal out as they’ve met more people who, of no focus is shifted to them., become that themselves.

In terms of side female characters being written well in relation to the Helluvaboss situation, Hikari from Digimon Adventure is written well and does not take away from Sora or Mimi. She is loyal as hell to her brother Taichi and will fight no matter how weak she is or how strong the opponent is. She leaves a lasting memory after the first season. I don't how bad Tori Meadows fan service was in Zexal as I stopped watching yugioh once the series got started, but Nene Amano from the Digimon Xros Wars manga got major service and she is to believed to be around the same age as Tori. Good video

@ryanaing5302

7 күн бұрын

Isn't Digimon Xros Wars one the more controversial Digimon series that turned off a lot of fans and afterwards the series after that era just became mediocre?

@aptheweirdone

6 күн бұрын

@@ryanaing5302 Yes from what I heard. When I watched as it was airing I enjoyed though the Sequel boys leap through time was messy. It didn't have traditional evolution methods and the power scaling was all over the place. I will do more research on why it was hated.

@ryanaing5302

6 күн бұрын

​@aptheweirdone Probably has something to do with how Bandai is producing and promoting the shows and the whole structure and story of Fusion/Xros Wars, both sub and dub. Let's not forget the atrocious recent series, Ghost Game, a more polarizing show that have people argue over serialized vs episodic that has gotten annoying after that ended.

Get your game on! Don't let views bring you down or stop you. Make the videos you want to make.

8:44 IM BEING deadass this is my favourite YU hi oh series

Get Your Game On! Just doing my part in the community. Great video, my dude 👍

I feel jabaited by the title. Thought there would be some writing advice or something, but it's just plot summaries rattled off in sequence for the events surrounding some female characters from some things.

Also did I heard that right, Knights of Hanoi?! Are they from Vietnam or something? Yes I'm never watch Vrains and any other Yugioh anime sequels, I'm only watched the original anime.

07:58 - 08:19 Man I kinda feel bad about that editor having a breakdown after editing the Yugioh segment AGAIN. Not to mention the segement was about six pages long, at that point I wonder if the editor goes to a therapist after that.

I will be taking notes, because it is a difficult balance. As someone said to me, you aren’t just one personality. I like your perspective on writing especially the yugioh girl series. The thing I usually hold them back is not role I will try not use Lillie, but has a goal to help Nebby and later grow to be a trainer for hereself, changing to help her mother. She isn’t a lead but a secondary protagonist. Another character I love, it is not Yugioh Zexal… #Cathybetter But 5D, the opposite signer Misty Tredwell Her goal (in the dub) may have been one note as minor antagonist, all of her act from wanting her brother back to her. Later move on and befriend with Akiza after realizing she is not the true culprit and go someone else All that hate soon become wanting to atone surrender All I can say, Get your game on!!! Also hmm… Can I be Aka Lil Blue Soda Girl now

In defense of Vizzepop's female characters, all of the characters and story are awfully written.

@Nightman221k

7 күн бұрын

That’s the best that can be said about her writing.

@riotkitty

7 күн бұрын

I don’t know if I’d call it exactly completely awful. There are times when Hazbin Hotel and Helluva Boss have endeared me to their characters. Moreso I’d call it scatterbrained writing that makes up an inconsistent puzzle. Some pieces are gems while others are slop.

@cassiushellsin6243

6 күн бұрын

Bruh… in the latest episode of Helluva Boss, they have Martha and Miss Mayberry as a lesbian couple. Vivzipop shipped the sinner with the lady who MURDERED HER FAMILY AND SENT HER TO HELL LMAOOOOOO That is SUCH A TUMBLR MOVE I CANT 😭 😭 😭

@heffyhoof

6 күн бұрын

@@cassiushellsin6243 Nearly every main character boils down to 'I'm gay, sassy and have a "traumatic" past'. Tumbler is a great way to describe it.

@cassiushellsin6243

6 күн бұрын

@@heffyhoof I’ve called Helluva Boss the “Animated Tumblr Blog written by a porn addict” Seriously, considering Vivziepop can’t handle criticism, her writing has never improved. She’s stuck in her edgey phase and still writes both Helluva Boss and Hazbin Hotel like she wrote Zoophobia. It all makes sense 💀

This never seemed hard to me. Don't write female characters. Write an entire character and give them female traits. The important part is an entire character, motivations, histories, flaws, strengths and things they're just kinda meh at. All of this is needed for a full fleshed out character, male, female or whatever the hell they are.

I feel the issue I have with female characters is that they are usually forced to be a Love Interest. Their plotlines is revolving around romance, their partner, or something bad happens to them to affect their partner. They are the wife, the girlfriend, the lost lenore, or the love interest. It be nice if they can do stuff not related to romance.

WOW..... ya know I knew Millie and Loona where done dirty, but DAME "the other secondary characters got more development" before they have. Like hold up for a second and lets THINK, besides being "Blitz's daughter" and "Moxie's Wife" what do we really know about them? Not much. Those other characters weren't even in the FREAKING PILOT (besides Stolas)! Loona at least got SOME screen time on her own which is nice, and Millie got a SHORT with her SISTER. As noted on other videos, Hellvua boss basically has 2 stories going on: I.M.P and their relationships and 2. Stolas Family Drama. I can kinda understand ignoring Millie since if i recall she is supposed to be the only one with no Trama. But besides her being from the Wrath Ring and being a Country girl..... she just exists to BAIL OUT Moxxie from whatever shit he gets put into and Make Out with Moxxie, cus its a running joke. And somehow I doupt the episodes coming in latter half of this year are going to do her much justice. IGNORING LOONA however is just tragic. She is the only "family" Blitz has at this point since his Sister is just DONE with him. She has her moments and clearly is Loyal to and Cares about Blitz (possibly "I owe him" for getting her out of the pound), but outside of that and her Crush on Tex...... We really don't know much about her, except her age. Plus the possibly of fleshing out Octavia as well via proxy and the 2 of them have alot in common.

I’m currently trying to write a book and I’m incredibly nervous how these characters will be seen as, especially since the two main main protagonists are intentionally horrible people. Another character is almost completely mute, And three of the main characters have the majority of their faces covered so expressions are harder to tell I’m hoping they come off the way I intended, both the female and the male. Admittedly, you been one of the channels that been giving me helpful advice. Thanks!😁

1:06, Better words don't exist that sum up how far RWBY has fallen.

It's funny how you uploaded this video when the new episode of helluvia boss came out

Off topic but 2:08 Oooooh a Stolas Terrible Characters video would be delicious for me to chew on. I'm inches away from grilling him on a stove and it's not even funny.

@midnightgamer2088

3 күн бұрын

That is way funnier than it has any right to be 😭

My rule of thumb is making A character with A personality & story. Their gender, race, and sexuality are second. :3

Cool vid bro.😺

I see this often both in reality and in fiction. It is really misunderstood that a father sacrificing himself for their family, and a mother respecting that decision by bringing the children to safety, is absolutely not the same as the mother deciding to sacrifice her man for them, basically betraying their closest person on a whim. The reason comes more important if one reverses genders, which if it feels difference, it brings toxic roles and stigmas to light... which is sheer sexism actually... The problem with Rose is not how she acts in MGS2, although it is annoying and distracts. At the end of MGS2, Jack is broken by lies, and is so fragile as his whole world falls apart. As an anchor, Snake helps him ground himself, and Rose promises to be truthful from now on. If after this, the first thing we learn from you, is that you lied about their child, pretending him dead, and she shoved him for Roy, even if it is all to save little John from what the patriots did to Sunny, it is still a betrayal that made Jack completely and justifiable suicidal. We have all means to understand her, but we just have no reason to trust or like her, thusly everyone hates her.

I have to wonder due to your immense hatred of Crow Hogan, if you hold similar animosity towards VRAINS Homura Takeru (Theodore Hamilton in the dub) aka Soulburner who in my opinion is a worse Crow, who comes out of nowhere to literally sideline both Go Onizuka and Aoi Zaizen.

Pomni is unironically my favourite character in TADC, her anxiety attacks are realistic and relatable, she’s kind and supportive but can also be a little snarky. She is delightful!

Amazing

I can´t believe MagaKamen talked about Vrains, now my bingo card is almost complete

tbh... would be intrested to see a video on the downfall of yuzu and serena from arc v, as holy hell, i would say they had more potental then all the other yugioh girls, double for serena, as she is (to my information) the only yugioh girl who does not rely on a man in any way shape or form

Personally i dont really write diffrent based on female or male, because what im writing is action packed so i dont really care if they are a male chacter or a female chacter im writing as long as they have a good backstory and cool power

Get your game on! Arc-V and Vrains Female Duelists had such cool potencial.

It’s easy to write women if being a woman isn’t one of their main identifying factors.

Get Your Game On I sacrifice my like playlist order in order to summon a new "The Problem with Yu-Gi-Oh girls" episode !

28:45 I'll bet Quagmire would've been really happy about that.

[looks closely at thumbnail] 0_0 Kuriboh help me, it's the Blue Fiendess! XD

We need to talk about a great female character being erza scarlet & lucy heartfilia

@aptheweirdone

7 күн бұрын

I am not a hundred percent on this but I think the consensus behind Lucy is that she is just fan service or boring. Personally, I think she is the main character up until the final arc and 100 years. She isn't powerful but she is tough as nails, caring, and smart.

@Based_Gigachad_001

7 күн бұрын

Nami is better than Ezra imo.

Get your gane on! Bring that series back!

Pomni's care for completely digital characters will ultimately cost her her life.

Please talk about yukako in a video i am begging you i have suffered alone for too long

You are an authority An Authority on being Manga Kamen