It's interesting to see the interaction between a vet and a bird trainer- one is a "health" know-it-all while the other is a "behavioral" know-it-all and there is definitely overlap between the two. Its really cool to see how you were able to train the trainer along with the bird without causing too much personality clashing 😂😂

@wwaxwork

Жыл бұрын

I like that the vet was open to knowing what she didn't know. It takes a smart person to understand they don't know it all and to fill in gaps in their knowledge. I like that she was also trying to relate it back to things she already knew, which is the best way to remember new things. It was also great to see how much of your training course is not only training the trainer but teaching them in a way they don't feel threatened but receptive to new ideas, that is a whole skill in and of itself.

@nikkihoffman2891

Жыл бұрын

@@wwaxwork Good point!

"It's not her, it's you." So powerful! I have to try and remember that when my lovebirds are being mean.

@ItsForTheDogs

Жыл бұрын

Mean lovebirds, oh the irony!

Birdtricks are helping me so much as a birdkeeper.

I love to see someone learning targeting from you the first time.

This was so helpful! Alot of videos on bird behavior don't go into describing exactly how to reward properly they are often just like "give them a treat" the owner obviously has that level of understanding but to really own in on those body movements and time is incredibly helpful.

@Tresspassing1234

Жыл бұрын

My bird just keeps begging. He won't just spend time with me. He is a budgie, bet so demanding. I have tried every ingredient in the you tube but probably wrong.

DAVE AND JAMIE 👏👏👏👏👏👏 ohmygosh I really don’t think many people understand how incredibly skilled you both are at communicating and explaining topics in any way/many different ways depending on how the PEOPLE you are working with appear to be taking in the information and potentially misinterpreting it. I think we all know that birds are hella complex and humans are just as complex if not more (our egos are so yuckily big and influential!). Everyone who attends a masterclass or purchases your courses genuinely wants to do better by their bird, clearly evidenced by their choice and action to learn from you guys! But we can also get easily defensive or offensive when we feel inadequate about the care and actions we are taking for something very important and close to us. We are all inadequate at parrot care and we will NEVER be as adequate as Mother Nature and a real flock. These creatures are too smart, and wild and unique from us to ever experience a “real life” in our homes. You both have iconically and completely changed the game on proper parrot care and education and that is an incredible and beautiful thing -you are the masters most proficient and always learning, we are the students who want to learn. We are all on the same team and no matter what you both always remember that inherit truth and strive to provide instruction in any way that will be meaningful for both the bird and the guardian 💗💗💗💗🦜🦜🕊🕊🕊 That is such a gift 🤗🤗❤️‍🔥❤️‍🔥❤️‍🔥❤️‍🔥 As a nurse I feel like I can highly relate to this vet mama; I used to feel a prickly ego pinch and get a little defensive when I would get a nursing/medical “thing” (lab value, treatment method, diagnosis, type things) wrong and a peer would correct me. I realize now how incredibly silly I was being!! I have nothing to get defensive about. I have a vast amount of knowledge on many things, but I cannot know everything or remember everything I have ever learned. I also have different passions and area of expertise opposed to other nurses. We are all valuable and all competent , it’s a beautiful thing to have different strengths and be able to really work and learn together -free of judgement of self and others 💗💗💗 we’re all on the same team - whether that be providing the best patient care and outcomes we can or being the best bird guardian we can secondary to nature and within our capabilities 🤗🤗🤲🤲🌎💗💗💗💗❤️‍🔥 Just because this woman is a vet, that doesn’t mean she is a parrot expert and she may not even treat birds in her practice at all, watching this clip I feel like she is trying very hard to remember and rely on the knowledge she likely learned in vet school many years ago and is holding to it tight as to not seem “incompetent as a vet”. Which is so so silly, I hope this woman knows she is an awesome parront for seeking advice, putting the time and effort and care she already has and of course her willingness to learn! I’m sure she is an incredible vet and mama to her other animals too ☺️💗 Best of luck to them both! Thanks, Hailey 🤗🤗

As I'm a veterinary nurse working in the UK it's funny how people think vets know all species. Human doctors only need to know one species. Vets learn large animal (cow, sheep and pigs), equine (horses), small animal (dogs, cats and small mammals. And they will learn the basics of exotic work but that's it. Then you have exotic vets who do birds, reptiles and other zoo species. And this is just the medical disease, illnesses and physiology. Not behaviour. There are vets that specialise in it but that's only if they do extra study in this area. So I think people should give this lady a break. And their own vets. That's why we have different vets for our birds. And why we have behaviourists. I think it was a great learning exchange. I have birds and in the last 2 years have learnt a huge amount from bird youtubers and patreon. So I can give advice now in my job. Where as before I would need to guide owners to someone else for the knowledge.

I’ve found my galah has a tiny vocalization if I aggravate a pin feather. I’ve imitated this high pitched “Eh” when he’s aggravating me. He gets it. Steps back and looks at me like oops, or sorry, and then does not do it again. Like any good parent I use this “no” judiciously. He may approach the activity again within a few minutes cuz that was something he decided he wanted to do. We don’t start a war but he gets another Eh. And stops again. We then divert to something positive like training.

@jocelynshaw4989

Жыл бұрын

We have something similar with one of our green cheeks. She had a distinct "skree" sound she'd make over pin feathers that weren't ready to be preened, and we would make the sound back at her if she gets bitey when she's "preening" us. It's worked great to know how to communicate an "I don't like that" or "that hurts" sound!

@bettinalykke5151

Жыл бұрын

too often humans dont speak the literal language of the animal they are communicating with. I dont have any birds but I do have a cat I talk with in cat noises or body language , and she often responds in kind.

Jamie I love your outfit in this video! Not bird related but that was the first thing I noticed lol

Excellent training video! Shout out to all the participants in these classes who allow their learning opportunities to be filmed!

Wow absolutely love the teaching in this video!!!!

Great video!!!! I loved the engagement in this one from y’all to the owner & to the bird. Hope to see more content like this ♥️

Most excellent. This is in my opinion as good as it gets regarding lessons.

Thats cool the info you shared. I was wondering how to start touch stuff

With all due respect… it’s fairly obvious she isn’t a “bird person”. And I’m glad she’s come to learn… that will only help her bird flourish! Obviously, we’d all like to think that a Vet is the perfect person to care/own an animal, but we have to remember that Vets aren’t inherently Behaviouralists in the same way Behaviouralists aren’t inherently Vets. It’s interesting how she kept trying to return back to the comfort of human characterisation, and Dave repeating to her “heightened” 😅 Excited - Heightened Flirty - Heightened Annoyed - Heightened I wonder if a better way of explaining may be “if we recognise it as *just* heightened, we have an opportunity to turn it into a ‘positive’ heightened, even if the bird is heightened negatively”. I hope she’s is able to go away and work on her ability to read her bird to build on positive interactions with her.

@wwaxwork

Жыл бұрын

Also not every vet gets exposed to a lot of birds, she might have a rural or small animal practice. I think she deserves kudos for knowing that she needs to learn more and seeking that knowledge out.

@BluPandaYT

Жыл бұрын

@@wwaxwork 100% :)

@budnspud

Жыл бұрын

I was worried about her learning to give the treat to the bird. She kept giving it low which might lead to her getting bitten again. Also she needs to stop vocalizing when training as well. I'm so glad she is getting help for building a better relationship with the bird.

@BluPandaYT

Жыл бұрын

@@budnspud although she initially appeared a little reluctant to accept Jamie and Dave’s instruction… I feel like she is determined enough to work on it and improve the relationship between herself and the bird. I will add… the “vibe” she gives me is more of a temporary care-giver (foster)… less of a permanent home for the bird. But I obviously don’t want to make any assumptions.

My mom owns a 7 year old phobic African Grey, but she has major difficulties reading the bird's body language. She handles the parrot more like a dog (I provide for you, therefore I am the pack leader and you should obey me whenever I want something from you) and she hasn't done any training sessions with her at all.. Sadly, this wrong attitude towards her bird results in her getting bit almost on a weekly base. I wish my mom had the time and patience to watch all the video's on your channel, but she does not. This video is a perfect example of a bird owner having good intentions, but the wrong kind of mindset towards the bird. I'm gonna watch this with my mom, hoping she finally realises it's her approach/attitude that needs to change, not the bird. I have learned so much from this channel, thank you for sharing your knowledge with the world!! I visit my mom only once a week, but with the help of your video's I have slowly managed to build a good relationship with the bird based on mutual trust and respect for each other. She won't bite me and she knows I would never hurt her. I even taught her to say "kom maar" (dutch for "come on") whenever she wants to step up.

My Blue Crown Conure is mostly a very mellow bird but when he is pissy, he telegraphs quite well. If I misunderstood him, I am going to get hurt. He is very intentional. He was neglected/abused when I got him, so I think he can have his moments. He has only bitten me 4 or 5 times in 20 years. I appreciate the tips you give.

every time i watch any of your videos i’m so shocked how exactly it translates to horses. unfortunately reward in the horse world is very rare, and punishment is very common. luckily you can’t whip smack and kick a bird though i’m sure people try it. these videos give me so much insight into how to train my horse :) i love you guys!

@caitlinw8351

Жыл бұрын

also with labeling in horses.. horses who are in pain are labeled as naughty, mean, lazy.. hormonal horses are labeled as bitches! i hear it all the time when a female horse acts up. “she’s just biting you cause a bitch!” how crazy is that? no, she’s probably in pain!

It’s so sad when animal hoarders somehow manage to get some of them back.

Training the trainer to see the big picture, shape behaviour and understand the bird. It’s so simple 😂

Great video!!! Would love to see future videos about how you made your outdoor aviaries protected from predators like stray cats! I also would love to see content about how to introduce a second bird to your household when you have an “aggressive” bird (I have a singular lovebird but would love to get her some company for when I’m not able to be with her. Not necessarily hoping for another lovebird but know any other kind might not be possible).

@batfurs3001

Жыл бұрын

My neighbour has 2 layers of staggered 1cm chicken wire around the bottom 75cm of his aviary and that seems to really help against cats and other land predators. The chicken wire also goes down into the ground and underneath the ground in the aviary. Plant roots can get through just fine and little diggers like weasels can't get in! As for introducing birds, keep them in separate spaces so they can't see each other, and introduce them (in cages if you prefer) in a neutral space.

@unmarreddlite2264

Жыл бұрын

@@batfurs3001 ooh chicken wire seems like a really good idea thank you!

@batfurs3001

Жыл бұрын

@@unmarreddlite2264 no worries! I hope your birdies stay safe!

Masterclass results Sister 9 - Vet 3

Can u make a video why Cackotoos scream and how to correct it?

My lorikeet will bite me and draw blood if the dog (Great Danes mastiff) starts barking right near us. He will bite me if he is getting humpy with my left hand and sees my right hand (the rival) chillen on the arm of the chair. Or if a stranger approaches us and gets up in his or my face. It’s his way of expressing panic, anger, frustration etc.. took me a long time to recognise a bite does not mean he dosnt like me or that he’s a naughty boy.

"Consequence" That's a word that humans have made up, of course the animal will not understand this concept lol... I get so surprised at people some times. It is not a human and does not have the same thought processes as we do lol....

@skittlesrainbowprincess

Жыл бұрын

I get what you are saying but as humans we sometimes want to relay to our birds that it's not an acceptable behavior. Unfortunately they simply don't care 😂

I can see how teaching someone who already know so much about animals can be challenging 😂

This was hard to watch I’m really surprised the animal vet struggle to read her own birds body language. But I guess that’s why you guys are here my Respect for you guys and your patience with your clients always goes through the roof when I watch stuff like this

@ekaterinab6064

Жыл бұрын

i feel like most vets will be by default specialised in mammals, avian is pretty different. And I guess administrating medicines etc. has nothing to do with reading behaviour and body language. I don't know though. but it seems theres so much misinformation out there anyway wont be surprised if theres plenty between vets

@ekaterinab6064

Жыл бұрын

that said what i found hard to watch was her not letting Jamie and Dave speak 😂

@batfurs3001

Жыл бұрын

@@ekaterinab6064 vets don't need to read subtle body language during casual interactions, since they almost never have those with animals in their practice. I would bet the vet is able to restrain birds way more safely than either of the trainers could, since that's something they DO get training in. I'm not a vet, but I have helped out the vet at my local wildlife shelter a lot while I was volunteering there. She is SUPER knowledgeable about safely restraining every animal under the sun, medical care, etc, but she cannot for the life of her read corvids and parrots. And that's not a problem, she still loves em regardless and is more than happy to just make them healthy again. She is super jealous of my ability to read the one imprint crow at the shelter and really play with him, but then again, she can safely catch an angry eagle out of an aviary without gloves or a net or anything so, yk. (also mandatory psa from your local wildlife shelter volunteer: DO NOT TRY TO RAISE WILD BABY BIRDS ON YOUR OWN. BRING THEM TO A SHELTER. thx)

How does diet influence hormones?

@PascaleLaurent81

Жыл бұрын

Eating regular meals helps to regulate blood sugar. This may influence some of the hormones that control our mood and ability to concentrate. For this reason, poor mood and behaviour are often observed in children who have been without food for too long (for example, children who haven't eaten breakfast). Same goes for animals!

@saspurillie

Жыл бұрын

Its everything, most pet stores sell all filler seed diets high in fatty seeds like sunflower seeds with artificial colors and dyes birds in the wild eat a variety of vegetables, roots, sprouts, seeds as pet owners we must offer them variety. My cockatiels came to me on a kaytee seed diet i immediately switched them to the Bird Tricks Seasonal Feeding system and the bird tricks cockatiel seed mix which i make at home, they molted twice the initially during the first month then 6 months later the first year they were with me. It has improved their moods, hormonal seasons, as well as feather condition!

@skittlesrainbowprincess

Жыл бұрын

Just like our diet can influence hormones. A poor diet (most commercial diets are crap) can cause all kinds of problems. Think kids on too much sugar. You have to eat well to feel well or your body will protest.

@carolineluckey1559

Жыл бұрын

High sugar & fat diet in parrots signal a good time to breed & raise chicks. Food is in abundance, so they can provide for their family. So hormones kick in when on high sugar or/& fat diets. Some fruits, seeds, nuts appear in the spring. Others appear in the fall.

Wow- difficult student. Kudos Dave & JamieLeigh

Talking while targeting is a distraction

Wow, the lady just isn't hearing you, " heightened", haven't finished watching but she needs to hear you, but hopefully she gets what you saaying,,,,,

I use consequences. I have one bird just maturing and she is very willful. If I have to catch her to go to bed, she doesn’t come out the next day. On the day after, I ask her if she is going to be good. Some days, she considers and goes further back into her cage and some days she steps up. Ditto for my youngest Conure; I would ask him if he was going to bite, and while he was super hormonal, he refused to come out. Then one day he came out, flew to my shoulder and gave me a kiss and flew back to the top of his cage. Banana not good if you have a hormonal bird. Use plain plantain chips.