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Why You Should Tech Roll Right - Tekken 7
This video will cover Tech Rolling and specifically Tech Roll Right
If you want to know more about how and why you can avoid some combos, check out this link:wavu.wiki/t/Te...
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Sonic Frontiers - Cyber Space 1-2: Flowing
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Hey guys, hope you'll enjoy and learn from this one as well. This time i edited it based on the theme of the song which is "time". When it goes in slow mo, the song also "slows down", anyone noticed it yet? 👀 Also for the people interested in how and why this mechanic works in depth, there is a link in the description that explains in detail what happens.
@GLENC0C0
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Brilliant editing :)
@ParaSMG
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@@GLENC0C0thank you!
@YTKaedeIchigo
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Which link? I want to know more about how this video is edited.
@ParaSMG
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@@YTKaedeIchigo oh the link is actually about how and why tech roll right works, not about how the video was edited
@YTKaedeIchigo
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@@ParaSMG oh, I'm sorry, I misunderstood. I'm a new Tekken player and have been making videos on my spare time about the game as I learn it. I was hoping to know how you edit your videos since they're so impressive.
This is one the most obscure things on T7 and I’m so glad you made a detailed explanation.
@ParaSMG
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Glad you liked it
Always found it unusual that the inputs for tech-rolling have always been based on foreground/background rather than left/right conventions. For this reason you need to change the buttons you use depending on which side you are playing. I hope that they would switch to 1 or 3 ~ left tech roll and 2 or 4 ~ right tech roll, which would be more in in line with the limb correspondence of the attack buttons. That way you would not need to change your command based on which side you are on.
@tyber124
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Probably arcade machine buttons logic. On them and sticks deflaut 1 and 2 are on top and 3 and 4 on button so its some logic but yeah dosent make sens for pad.
@er7776
Жыл бұрын
also really annoying when you miss a tech or you couldnt tech but didnt realise it. Making you do a getup 3 or 4 that gets you counter hit.
Something like this helps so much! Kick input tech rolls into foreground, punch input tech rolls into background
@ParaSMG
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Yes! Thanks for simplifying it 👍
Even if Tekken 8 does have very in-depth and comprehensive tutorials, they probably won't be as good as what That Blasted Salami gives us.
I’m teaching some who has never played before and stuff like this makes me realise what Tekken is doing wrong. There is so much information missing about the game you’re actively playing. And even at intermediate or advanced play remembering this with 52 or so characters with multiple attack variations is crazy. Depth is one thing but integral information for a player to get better shouldn’t be an ‘Easter egg’ I hope they address this in Tekken 8 with the amount of changes they’re making.
@totalstranger9880
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its not that big of a deal
@in3vitableTIMING
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@@totalstranger9880 Depends on how passionate you are about Tekken. For those that want to start, get better or teach it is for the series.
@Bodyburger
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This. I wish the game communicated more clearly what's happening on the screen, so that I could learn faster from my mistakes without feeling confused and frustrated.
@totalstranger9880
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@@in3vitableTIMING People at the beginner level will never have to worry about small things like this, they have their work cut out for them to learn the basics first, something like having to know which way to roll is the least of their concern
@jaym.1446
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@@totalstranger9880 No actually it is kind of a big deal because someone like me who has been playing the game for so long had no idea about specific directions you had to side roll to
As a Claudio main I had completely forgotten that that combo wasn't guaranteed. And here I thought I was just randomly dropping it on occasion.
Brilliant editing on the hurtbox overhead to visually explain why the mechanic works as it does.
@ParaSMG
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Thank you very much. Glad to see you liked it and that it was understandable
@tigrisrgn4062
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@@ParaSMG who the fook is that guy?
@ParaSMG
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@@tigrisrgn4062 ?
Sonic Frontiers's ost makes this vid even better
@ParaSMG
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Hahah yep, i tried to edit around this song to make it pop more out
That top view angle was a great addition to help us understand it clearly
@ParaSMG
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Glad to hear it!
The editing here is top-notch 🙌
@ParaSMG
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Thanks 🙌
Yoo this new editing style looks so freakin epic
LOVE that overhead camera!!
@ParaSMG
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Thanks! Was also very happy when it worked out
A greatly presented video with an amazing song, happy to see the Sonic music XD Brilliant video, as always!
The Claudio combo at 0:45 is guaranteed on most sizes with the exception Xiaoyu and Kunimitsu due to their smaller hit boxes even with a tech roll right.
@ParaSMG
Жыл бұрын
Ohh good call
top tier quality, one of the best if not the best TK7 Creators out there... enjoying playing TK because of you guys.
Great clear video of something beginners really need to know. The editing is some professional stuff good job
@ParaSMG
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Thank you very much. I really appreciate that
Dude this one is EXCEPTIONAL. You guys are something else.
Here we thought that we discovered everything in Tekken 7 after all these years, you come in to surprise us with a GREAT INFO like that. That was really helpful. Thank you Arya
Super useful tech and well made! now I know why that Steve parry follow up didn’t always work 😅😂
The quality of the content and the editing is absolutely mind-blowing! I only play Tekken occasionally but I watch all your videos. They are such a good example of what a well made video should look like! Thank you for the time and effort you put into them!
Holy **** and i’ve been playing claudio till tekken god and didn’t know you could techroll his rage drive lmao
Thank you so much for the insane production quality
@ParaSMG
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Happy to hear you liked it 👍
All this time I always thought there was only one ☝️ direction and button to press for tech roll!!🤯😱 Thanks!!🙏🙏🤩
I am surprised that I am red rank and have never learnt how to tech roll right. Guess you learn things everyday.
What a beautiful guide!!!
@ParaSMG
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Thank you bro 🙏
Goddamn thats a good video. Explendid editing and explaining. The best channel in terms of learning. I'm amazed!
@ParaSMG
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Happy to hear 😁
Hey, great video as always! I wanted to add one more obscure thing I've found recently regarding TRR. Leo's df2 combo starting with b1, 4 will whiff if the opponent does TRR, everything else will hit. The conclusion here is that TRR for some reason always changes the char's hitbox even during airborne state.
@ParaSMG
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Oh nice one, i didnt know about leo's b1,4. Thanks for mentioning it! Indeed, it already affects the opponent if they're already mashing TRR. The link in the description goes more in depth about, if you want to know more about it.
@heyitsameyourdad4084
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@@ParaSMG Great analysis! I didn't know about all of these stuff and how greatly TRR affects hitbox. I thought it was just Leo thing, but I guess not haha.
It also avoids some of king's grounded grabs. My friend is a king main and I instinctively mash kick when I'm on the ground to roll. Ty for explaining the mechanic, had no Idea how it actually works
Cannot wait for people to see this video so my Akuma wall trap that only works if you roll to the right will hit way more
Literally looks/feels like a bug. The game not telling us anything whatsoever about the tech roll mechanic is not helping, either. Thank you, TBS. Hopefully T8 makes it a bit more transparent or easier to implicate mid game.
Havent tested this but golly, i have been prefering tech roll left so much, I forget sometimes it will just do a grounded move
With the side step chart they have flowing around the internet maybe they should have a tech roll side chart too.
i follow you because of the tutorial about tekken 7,, thanks .. hope more coming
Fuck the balcony! I'm tech-rolling right from now on!
good video. i just wished that u explained how a tech roll is performed. i'm a beginner i'm confused about. wish this game had tutorial mode
@ParaSMG
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It says so at the end, or is that unclear? If so, ill take that into account for future videos
As a bryan main, i approve this message.
flawless timing, just getting back into tekken and mashing side rolls to not get hit hasnt been working
Just so it's clear, side rolling is different from tech rolling. Tech rolling would be tapping the button right before you hit the ground. Side rolling is what you do when you are already grounded.
@jaym.1446
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Thank you I didn’t know that there was a difference
Nice
No wonder I can often escape kazuya hell sweep on P2 side cause 90% of the time I press 3 or 4 for tech roll.
I noticed sideroll right is better when I learned to play p2 side, but didn't know it is soooooooo important. As a Steve main since season 3 I thought punchparry into d1+2 was guaranteed. No one ever rolled out of it. And I have 2,7k hours
That slo-mo rolling sound effect should be an in-game option.
u know wat, im glad i followed this channel from the beningging...
Amazing content as always 🔥
I had no idea claudio's rage drive can be tech'd out off, that's just insane, does that mean it doesn't launch?
@ParaSMG
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He can still combo with his rage drive with ff4 or d12.
Personally, i wouldve used "Escape The Loop" from Sonic Frontiers since the video is about escaping situations than can lead to looping oki like Kazuya's 50/50.
@ParaSMG
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Oh good idea. When i heard this song i just knew i had to use it. Didnt check out the other songs when editing this
@Messatsu01
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@@ParaSMG Sonic Frontiers has an amazing sound track and "Flowing" is the most popular one. "Escape The Loop" always plays in my head when Marduk, Kazuya, Hwoarang, or Nina start their BS.
Awesome tips 👍
So basically never tech left unless fighting a Mishima. Got it 😂
@Seacae
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You should always tech roll on the weak side of the characters you have against and also on the weak side of that specific move. If i'm a mishima and i know you will roll left i can adapt and realign myself so i can hit you anyway!
@ParaSMG
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Yep what Seacae says. I didnt have enough "song" to cover that, so thanks for the explanation
@xgueTtax
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@@Seacae So if I techroll right in your case, you won't be able to realign?
@vredxiii5551
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@@Seacae ty for that brother appreciate the info
@Seacae
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@@xgueTtax if you techroll right on a mishima it's not going to do anything since it's the strong side of the character. But if you techroll left to avoid a fast heelsweep, next time you do It i can just wait a little bit more, or do a FF (Dash) or SS(sidestep to your direction) wich causes me to realign, and then heelsweep. So in this case you still need to block low, or use a low crush move or something.
I hate this knowledge checks, I am used to techroll to the background to avoid the wakeup kicks in case I am in the delay oki situation, and now I cant get rid of this habit.
Waaaaawww, this is some info i bet even some pro's don't know about it, thanks for sharing this info bruv. PLEASE TELL ME THIS ALSO WORKS ON P1 SIDE.
@Seacae
Жыл бұрын
Yes it's covered in the video, but beware because on p1 side the left and right roll are mirrored than on the p2, so if x or circle on p2 will let you sideroll left, on p1 it Will roll right, and same way with Square and triangle, on p2 It will roll right and on p1 it will roll left.
@ParaSMG
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Happy to help
Great video. My defaul tech roll is always 1.
@ParaSMG
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Thanks 💪
This was Amazing great video
@ParaSMG
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Thank you!
Of course you should tech roll right. Why would anyone ever tech roll wrong? 😏
@ParaSMG
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🤣🤣
How do you tech roll right if you have been on the ground for a while? I didn’t even know that you can press 3 or 4 to tech roll quickly
@ParaSMG
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That's siderolling. You do that with the 1 input. So square for ps4 or "X" for pc
2:18 yeah I always do it like this and I always get ff+3'd
Im gonna try that steve oki
I don't really get why they had to change the input on tech roll direction depending on the side you're on. One more needlessly counter-intuitive thing in this game. I mean your 1 input doesn't result in a right punch just cause you're on p2 side, either.
@ParaSMG
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Yeah i also find it weird. I think they looked at the button layouts and made the mechanic based on that. So when the button prompts come, you can see that 3 and 4 are more towards the foreground and 1 and 2 towards the background. Like in the video when pressing 3 or 4 you go into the foreground and when pressing 1 or 2 you into the background. But in the dummy options menu there is a clear distinction that you can tech roll right and left. Idk what they were thinking tbh
@cocosdad
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Just think of it as top buttons = "up", bottom = "down"
@Sir_Robin_of_Camelot
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Remembering which way to sidestep has the same problem though, and I wouldn't want that changed. Maybe not the best example but it's the same idea.
@real765rp8
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@@Sir_Robin_of_Camelot I find it a bit more elegant with sidesteps, as you move a stick into the direction you wanna move, rather than pressing buttons, which is more akin to an attack. It's a needless rant though. I've long given up on playing Tekken in favor of other fighting games, that I find more intuitive and enjoyable to play. I do like this channel and video style tho.
@Sir_Robin_of_Camelot
Жыл бұрын
@@real765rp8 Yeah that's a fair point, although you are rolling in the direction of the button press. Kind of an in between scenario. Definitely wouldn't be hard to get used to either way though.
yer tellin me that claudio's RD into f3 ain't guaranteed? this is some mandela effect stuff man. owo
Oh, I've been using down and 1 to tech roll right...
I don’t understand it, do you have to press 3 or 4 at the exact same time you hit the floor for it to work? Because when I press 3 or 4 while down, I do the kick
@ParaSMG
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Yep when falling to the ground you can just mash the buttons to tech roll
Excuse me, NANI?! I knew Tekken 7 had some obscure mechanics, and even picked up a lot of them, but sersiously now...
Amazing content dude please continue for tekken 8
@ThatBlastedSalami
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Thank you very much! Yes we will do :)
I thought these were all fully guaranteed combos!!
how to change view position and how are you changing view position plzzz tell me plzz
So does pressing 3 make you tech roll to the foreground or to the left?
Amazing video, I'm going to rekt scrubs with this ngl. Not even sarcastic, cuz I get rekt by this and idek how.
Knowledge Check 7
u can escape follow up attacks by tech rolling like heihachi ff2 after he does full crouch df4
@tyber124
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Nonono. Edit this to what I write: you are totally right but he can delay it to send you to orbit. Its mixup: 1.Always intant ff2? Like you said. 2.In second case start rolling on ground and press d input. If he waits you end up on stomach head toward him. Still will hit you but you have just take it and tech roll out of it with not much risk.
This right here is the thing I hate most about tekken. Random unintuitive knowledge checks. It would be different if there was an obvious pattern to when you should tech left vs right...but there is isn't.
isnt tech roll right down 1 or 2? i thought 3 or 4 is the wake up kicks
@oismASMR
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I was about to ask the same thing. Everytime I use 3 or 4 it’s the kicks, not the tech roll
@Valigarmanda
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varies based on side. on left, neutral 1 rolls to the right and up 1 rolls to the left. on right, up 1 rolls to the right and neutral is to the left.
@_winn0w
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Tech roll is done when you're hitting the ground after being knocked down (basically mash the input as you're landing). Down 1/2 is for ground roll when you're already on the ground. That's when wake up kicks also become available.
@brianson6534
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@@_winn0w I see
hermoso video
@ParaSMG
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Thanks
I'm going baton! I'm going baton! I'm going I'm going I'm going baton!
@ParaSMG
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Wait Claudio RD into F3 ISNT GUARANTEED?!?!?! Isn’t that the combo everyone suggests online? I’ve always just let it hit assuming it’s guaranteed.
@ParaSMG
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Yep against most characters not guaranteed
How does that work ? I'm trying to replicate Claudio's RD case in training mode but i cant techroll right at all. Does it require a specific timing ?
@ParaSMG
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What's not working exactly? Maybe i can help
@JoJailo
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I cant techroll right after b4,2f at all, claudio f3 catches me everytime i try. I tried spamming it and timing it but keep getting hit. I also think its character specific. I play Bob but he has a bigger hurtbox than Kunimitsu so maybe its also that.
@ParaSMG
Жыл бұрын
@@JoJailo ahh yes that's the exception. In the description there is a link which explains the weirdness of tech roll right in detail. It says that characters with bigger hurtboxes, like bob, can't tech roll out of it. Unfortunately i found out about this info when i finished editing, so i couldnt cover it in this video.
Can't tech rolling be done with up or down + 1. It's definitely an easier method for me. Maybe both methods work. Haven't played Tekken 7 in quite a while.
@ParaSMG
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That's side rolling. Tech rolling happens when you're falling and side rolling happens when you're already lying down on the ground
@SeveredEverlastingWorldLore
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@@ParaSMG Ah right. I'm kinda out of touch with Tekken 7. I've been watching it more than playing it during it's lifespan.
@addydiesel6627
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That's ground rolling or flat rolling. Ie your character remains lying flat on the ground but you just rolled him /her from face up to face down
This is clearly a bug though. As tech roll right allows you to "escape" situations which the game considers as a combo.
@Ada-jn5ms
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Game considers some stuff you can hold back to block as combo too lol, it's not based on whether you can escape it or not
How to tech roll right?
@ParaSMG
Жыл бұрын
It says how at the end of the video.
Now techroll vs kazuya 😂
poor kunimitsu
This ass game needs a tutorial.
Now, when everyone has watched this, I will go learn all my Xiaoyu TRR oki 🌚🌚🌚
can you make it abit more clear please
@ParaSMG
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What is not clear? Maybe i can help
@darlingimscared
Жыл бұрын
@@ParaSMG it was my poor attempt at a joke because it's so well done, it really couldn't be more clear hahah
@ParaSMG
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@@darlingimscared oh 🤣
I needed this a very long time ago. lmao!
I wonder if this applies to bears as well
Thanks for the video, It's really helpful P. S. Like for the Sonic Frontiers track :)
@ParaSMG
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Glad to hear it was useful