I have been building a very sophisticated application with bubble over the past three months, which lays the foundation for my own startup. While bubble is not perfect, and you basically have to start from a white canvas. I would still highly recommend someone to use bubble because it's amazing at what it does. I have to disagree with the scalability/performance part though, while bubble definitely has room for improvement when it comes to that, you can extend it with external databases etc. to improve these parts. My tips: - Do an extensive course first for a week or to to get familiar with the functionalities of bubble - Before you start: Use Figma/Webflow to design EVERYTHING First, and then rebuild it. This can save you weeks of work

@businessuser5146

Жыл бұрын

Hi, would u suggest any good course to start bubble? Thanks for a nice reply for video

@gupperguppygupper

Жыл бұрын

@@businessuser5146 I found this a helpfull first lesson: kzread.info/dash/bejne/dYeB2pKchMScfNY.html

@ballerzballerz1188

Жыл бұрын

@@businessuser5146 hi, I'm a web developer and If you are interested in web solutions for your business... You can send a reply back and I wpudl contact you

@TheWalkinParadoxx

Жыл бұрын

Hey.. why are you recommending designing everything in webflow first?

@farazmubeen2739

Жыл бұрын

Thank you

Along with the learning curve, creating good resources is a long process. Many talented bubblers are not as reliable as traditional developers, perhaps because it is not their primary career. So the 10x-50x quicker build slows down to 3x to 10x unless you have developed your own team of bubblers. This has taken us longer to create than the buildout of our web apps.

Just sounds like a lazy persons opinion

Buh you don`t get it. Bubble is awseome tool to check if your business idea is VIABLE! There is no need to dump pile of money in startup which will eventually fail!

I’ve been using bubble for over a year now and love it but you are bang on with what you have said here, especially the templates, they are mostly garbage

I am a first-time founder without a technical co-founder and have just started learning and experimenting with Bubble to build my MVP. I haven't subscribe yet, but At a first glance, Bubble seems quite convenient. There is a huge market for no-coding platforms, which is why this new model will be the future and no-coding platforms will have amazing progress in the years to come. Even if I were a programmer, learning the basics of no-code platforms could help me reduce workload

What would you recommend as a good app nocode builder if you want to SCALE LARGE later on?

maaan thank you, i am currently building a prototype on it for my boss (agency) and I suggested Webflow in combination with airtable and zapier but she forces me to use bubble... don't know how to convince her so i'll try to build the prototype first in bubble and afterwards in webflow so she sees the difference of quality I can achieve. Thanks for the video, I feel validated haha

@qride3489

Жыл бұрын

But are you building a site or an app?

@ihsanzainal84

Жыл бұрын

You're better off sticking to building everything in Bubble. You'll need to dedicate time to learn it but having to troubleshoot 3 different services just to find a problem is not gonna be worth it.

@johnfreeman858

Жыл бұрын

Used both and it's no contest for app building. Bubble is light years ahead of Webflow.

@jlcmarble8722

Жыл бұрын

Framer

Whats the best low code web app developement ? I initially wanted to no-code as I thought I didn't like coding and no code seemed so easy. But seeing the complexity of learning no-code, I would rather use my knowledge in code as it comes in so handy.

thanks for answer this, any no-code you do recommend or that's almost there to be able to handle the scalability?

Hey, Matt. Great content. How would you compare Bubble and Flowise?

Hi Matt, I'm curious about what similar platforms you would recommend if it's not Bubble to be used. What are the alternatives?

@heisenberginstitute225

Жыл бұрын

- Glide - Adalo - Jofstaflow

@mdocter

Жыл бұрын

@@heisenberginstitute225 Those are not real competition. Some lack functionality, are limited or the pricing is much too high.

@heisenberginstitute225

Жыл бұрын

Honestly, I find myself just writing code for my apps easier sometimes because all these distractions and obstacles I face with most non-core builders are just too much Other, glide is my favorite because you are working more on data management using spreadsheets, less hustle plus it saves way more time Although I hate the 1,000 people limit for uses of your app, that really turns me off

@mdocter

Жыл бұрын

@@heisenberginstitute225 I understand, but Bubble has not that many limitations. It could use some insert/edit form and datagrid generation. Code on the other hand, forces you to implement a lot of functionality yourself or use some libraries as a dependency, which should be kept up to date etc. a lot of extra work.

@instaboothnigeria2742

Жыл бұрын

@@mdocter if ur serious about what you are creating u would pay whatever you need to pay

Hi thanks for your video, what if I want to create an app like Netflix that requires a lot of data an videos, which is the best No-Code app to use for the design and development?

During the last two days I found myself struggling with building some features. For example, there is a problem to find a multiple image uploader or to build a clickable carousel. Even paid plugins can't offer such functionalities. I believe it can be solution for my issues, but I'm pretty sure that I have to dig dive into 100 layers of shit.

@Avorr_agency

Жыл бұрын

you can upload multiple image and with free plug You just don't want to figure out by yourself

You should see bubble as a framework that facilitates building web apps. If you starting code from zero it will take longer to reach a good product than starting with bubble. You should reassess your point of view.

Pure Honest: For someone who cant code - bubble is really good. It is easy to make designs, simple to design and it can scale as f*k so seem you never had really build a tool in there.

@littlediana_

8 ай бұрын

bubble is a really powerful tool i learned it so fast, but when it was the time to launch the app, their new pricing model was the point where i decided to leave bubble. im so sad because i love bubble

Bubble templates are not made by bubble it self, they are all made by other bubble developers so they are only as good as the community. If you are seeing performance issues in your bubble app, from my experience you haven’t built it the best way. Main issues I see are how you group items, navigation around the app, how you manage desktop v mobile, database design, I run a bubble agency and welcome the opportunity to do a review of your app and offer my advise on how you can scale your app with bubble.

@Spritual_life_with_GKS

Жыл бұрын

Hello sir, what is the best tutorial you can recommand

Bubble is some sort of "visual programming" so it requires the user to think like a programmer.

Brutally honest... I think everything you've said it down your inability to master it - not the fault of Bubble itself. Their numbers speak for themselves - people are learning that it's better to invest in better infrastructure with better scaling possibilities - if your platform is slow with traffic, that's because you've cheaped out on the infinite amount of server capacity available to you. Personally, I wouldn't put aesthetics before functionality when choosing a no-code tool - Bubble may be a little clunkier, but you just have to work with what you've got if you want a better base for your platform... there are enough non-native plugins and APIs to give your app any functionality you want. If you want templates, it's usually because you want an all singing, all dancing platform to look the part, without having to work for it - you could always hire a freelancer to bridge your knowledge gaps.

@akath22

Жыл бұрын

Whats with the bubble fanboys. Nobody cares what you think

@r3ady150

Жыл бұрын

​@@akath22 apparently 21 of us cares

@akath22

Жыл бұрын

@@r3ady150 such a massive army. I can hire each one of you for 10 bucks an hour which is the ongoing rate for a Bubble dev.

@r3ady150

Жыл бұрын

@@akath22 out can't hire me for 10 an hour. I just use bubble for 1 customer. You couldn't afford what I charge.

@akath22

Жыл бұрын

@@r3ady150 How does it feel to make about the same of someone who works at McDonalds

i disagree with most of this video

@SimGunther

Жыл бұрын

Care to elaborate or have a detailed success story of your own with no-code that addresses the critiques you have about this video?

@craigmorris3941

Жыл бұрын

Me too, all nonsense

@hellboy6167

Жыл бұрын

He is scared

@ebenezereshun6974

Жыл бұрын

I think he needed to make a video so he came up with this one. Webflow is great for front end but no where near bubble when it come to backend. Both platforms are great for what they are designed for. This video lack substance and all his opinions are pure bias.

@ebenezereshun6974

Жыл бұрын

I think he needed to make a video so he came up with this one. Webflow is great for front end but no where near bubble when it come to backend. Both platforms are great for what they are designed for. This video lack substance and all his opinions are pure bias. Please come up with part 2 and we will give you 👍

I am a full stack developer and immediately realized the complexity of what goes on behind the scenes of Bubble. Even it relies on AWS! I am quite hesitant, what if there are bugs or the production app is not behaving as expected: where to get help from the community, is there any stack overflow on Bubble? What happens when a client orders something that "is not on the menu"?

@Chris-zt4ol

Жыл бұрын

Very true, I think the only good place for help is their forum, which itself isn't that great

@jorviallc

Жыл бұрын

@@Chris-zt4ol Well they have pretty good customer service and engineers. If something isn't on the menu, it's because it hasn't been featured yet. Bubble began since 2012 I believe, and I only started using it mid last year. And I'm pretty much good at most of the building features. That said, Bubble is till working to build more features even in its long year of stay. As I said, I started using it mid last year and between this period, they've brought a number of UI, UX and functional changes.

So because it's diffiicult you shoudn't learn it? Ridiculous

1- it’s easy, you just didn’t spend enough time 2- it’s very efficient for front end, again you didn’t learn enough to maximize your efficiency in front end 3- it’s not made to be scaled up to the sky, at least not most of the times, smart person won’t look at this platform for a longterm scaling plan.

My biggest problem with bubble is how fragile things become as you scale, move a little component around, boom workflow broken, too much stuff's going on you have to deal with

@jacovgraphics414

Жыл бұрын

would you still approve for a person to use bubble? im stuck on if i should or should not go with it

@oumardicko5593

Жыл бұрын

@@jacovgraphics414 personally no ! unless a client asked me to do it then "maybe" i'll use it

@littlediana_

8 ай бұрын

@@jacovgraphics414 their pricing model made a lot of people leave including me. now its impossible to even launch the MVP bc its going to cost you very much

I suggest you make a video about how we can use bubble because no other application like bubble exist, I'm trying to build the freelancer platform with bubble its not easy but its the only way.

Can flutterflow solve the scalability issue?

How much did Webflow pay you?

I can't argue with point 2 & 3 because I just haven't tried those other platforms yet. but your first point is very wrong unfortunately. I have no coding experience but I was able to build 2 web apps and even managed to learn API integration in the space of 3 weeks. The learning curve was so short it's unbelievable.

@healthyrecipes5717

2 жыл бұрын

What resources did you use? I am having a hard time finding useful resources to learn.

@apexquizapp6324

2 жыл бұрын

@@healthyrecipes5717 mostly KZread videos of whatever problem I was trying to solve and as well as bubble forum posts. I just played around with the platform and started learning so fast. One thing tho is that I already had an idea of what I wanted to build and I let the problems and challenges that arise show me what I needed to learn.

@MattSantos

2 жыл бұрын

Good for you, but looking at your website, I don't think you built anything significant.

@apexquizapp6324

2 жыл бұрын

@@MattSantos which website?

@Iamroarshak

Жыл бұрын

@@MattSantos you completely ignored his comments just to attack his credibility in design? You just seem like a dude who has to be right.

How much you wana bet most of these people complaining about scalability and speed have never took a course in database design. First thing they teach is normalizing your tables and structures or you get slow response times when your queries get 10,000+ records. Bet ya their tables have way to many fields.

Как отказаться Tube Bubbe от неё или как её отключить???

Have you take any course or even tutorials?? Bubble is so easy for me with just high-school level programming language knowledge

@MattSantos

2 жыл бұрын

I said basic knowledge in the video.

I totally agree with matt point, when i try out bubble is so hard to use

where can i build a long term saas?

You are very hard on Bubble though I agree with most your comments. Bubble is not great but it’s great enough to test your idea before going into deep development.

I'm thinking about building the MVP with bubble with the help of an agency, to test the market and the idea. What do you think about this approach?

@littlediana_

8 ай бұрын

their new pricing model is going to bankrupt you

I've used Bubble for 2 years, it's great but when your app grows it becomes slow, to the point where it is almost unusable sadly.

how can i use bubble as back and webflow as front?

@OjolieCards

Жыл бұрын

I think usually you use webflow to build the landing page, static pages, etc. and bubble to create the "app", like SaaS apps, when the user logs in.

Matt, I think you missed the whole or main point why people should not use Bubble. It's not because it's hard to build, but because your site will not be found easily as it's not meant to be optimized for Google search. Once you build it, your biggest problem is not being found. So even if you build it, there's no audience. It's not technically SEO efficient. This is a why I think people should have some basic coding knowledge. Otherwise, you could be swayed to think a no-code platform will work out for you.

@MattSantos

2 жыл бұрын

That's another great point.

@MarcAndrewII

Жыл бұрын

Coding knowledge for what? For SEO results?

@markhamilton8765

Жыл бұрын

@@soundmasters_youtube YES!!

dont learn to play chess its super hard and complicated

Appreciate the video, but I don't agree with this at all. I believe it all comes down to reason 1 for you, namely you (apparently) struggling with Bubble itself. I can't really argue with that, but I found it very easy to use if you take into account that you can make such complicated apps with it. There are also many great tutorials available (by Bubble itself and on YT in general). I don't think things can be much easier than this, considering Bubble lets you build pretty much anything without coding knowledge. Alternatives named by you and in the comments in my experience don't come close to what Bubble offers. And also like pointed out below: templates are not built by Bubble itself, so you can't hold poor templates against them. The fact that your own app has apparently become very slow mostly likely means you designed it wrong: probably you are loading data in a cumbersome way, or otherwise designed your app poorly. Bubble is known to also work well for larger, data-heavy apps, but you do have to be smart on how you load data. Don't take my word for it, there are many examples of companies that used Bubble to not only develop a great MVP, but to turn it into a highly successful scale-up. I believe Dividend Finance (raised 365 million in 2019) was built on Bubble technology.

where is the yobo demo?

naciste en usa? tienes un ingles muy muy fluido

Was webflow the sponsor of this video?

It’s killing software developers jobs

Agree on Bubble is for building MVPs.

Damnn... You're damn right about the designs... I have great design ideas for apps, but Bubble has limited functionalities especially when it comes to designing. Can anyone give me tips on designing better on bubble?

@MattSantos

2 жыл бұрын

I hate it, hopefully they fix it and create a better designing system or more power for frontend designers.

@amo7661

Жыл бұрын

maybe using figma

Stop the cap. There’s a learning curve with almost everything, even in coding. There’s plenty of resources on the bubble website and they have a KZread channel.

To be honest bubble like no code saas cannot be relied upon 100 %. I mean zero tech experience is not a good idea when trying to accomplish prototype for a startup . I am a full time web programmer for 15 years 😅😅

1. learning is steep. Requires full-stack coding knowledge. Not many resources when you get stuck 2. UI and templates are garbage. Webflow is much better UI. 3. User experience can be bad because the more function you have the slower it becomes

I just started using bubble so I'm not an authority by any means, but this advice seems horribly, flat-earth wrong. I don't want to make an ad hominem attacksor assume ulterior motives, but did this guy get paid by Web Flow or does he have a good friend there or something? Bubble is absolutely fantastic in terms of usability for non technical folks unlike many of the others. The only point he made which seems to have merit is re: scalability, but I'll have to give an update when i get to that point. One valid issue he didn't address but could have is the fact that they don't let you keep the source code...but i can't imagine they would screw you over by raising their rake as you scaled...as that would alienate all customers and risk destroying their business. Also, in the unlikely event that bubble went under I'm sure they would let their startups keep the source code at that point. Still, it is a little bit of a risk and their biggest downside imo.

He said first thing first it really hard to learn first off if your really a business man then you would know this is not supposed to be exactly easy or for the weak minded if you think it's hard then it will be I haven't even watched 5 minutes and I already won't watch him again

Definition of Gatekeeping

Will give you that it’s not “easy” to learn, but other than that, you have no idea what you’re talking about. Have you tried the new responsive engine?

@lewicas

2 жыл бұрын

New responsive engine is great! Agreed, it’s not the easiest to learn, but bubble are working to provide even more tutorial videos. The forum tends to have great answers to questions too.

@MattSantos

2 жыл бұрын

It still sucks - but will get better.

I totally disagree with your ‘honest’ truth. It is not difficult to learn. Maybe it was a challenge for you but it is not as difficult as you think.

lol this has to be trolling. Bubble is good at all 3.

I disagree with you I am also a developer you are very wrong

If everything was easy even my parents would do it, so I think to master something it takes time!

@MattSantos

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly!

People could learn to use bubble's better if there were some good tutorials on how to use it. No one seems to want to make tutorials anymore.

@nategell

Жыл бұрын

Check out @MattNeary . I found his tutorials to be amazing, even for non-coders because he goes through the high-level programmatic thinking, not just click this, click that. Bubble's not that hard to learn.

@Mr7AMED

Жыл бұрын

@@nategell Thanks, man! :)

I just started using bubble and like most commenters disagree with most what you said. You obviously don’t come from a very technical background or know how to pick up new things. I was looking for an honest assessment of bubble but this is not it. This is an assessment of your inability to learn it seems.

After comparing no code platforms & no code vs code for over a year, I've decided it's best for me to learn full stack web & native development to develop my robust apps. I'm also choosing to build my apps with pure code without frameworks. Even something as simple as HTML is better to write with pure HTML because frameworks like bootstrap use a bunch of meaningless div blocks, but we can author our HTML document far better with pure HTML, which makes it far easier to read & it's better for screen readers, Google searches & more.

@stevebesson489

Жыл бұрын

You should do machine language too, and why not also recode the operating system of your computer.

@kwesi_za

Жыл бұрын

@@stevebesson489 🤣🤣🤣

@afridahmed3076

Жыл бұрын

@@stevebesson489 lol man

@nxtwwwebstudio

Жыл бұрын

@@stevebesson489 🤣🤣🤣

Here's a brutally honest feedback - You are totally wrong!

Weweb is the solution to all of this.

@amo7661

Жыл бұрын

its very exensive

I disagree with this video for the most part, but that’s my opinion

Bro ... no cap tho You got a BIG point. I've been in design for like, 3 years now, and I also took some courses from my uni's CS program, and I've done a few programming projects since 2017 (with only a little web-dev). (That's for context) It takes me a few days to learn new software, but I've been tryin to learn Bubble for a month now. Like, sure ... it's not my core focus, but for a "no-code", easy platform; I feel tired of using it tbh - and I'm supposed to build an app for a client. Another thing is the user base. It's small, so it's hard to get help fast. I think I'mma switch to Webflow or Wordpress.

So, I'd have to disagree with you. These may be 3 brutally honest reasons why YOU shouldn't use Bubble but, for others, it may be a fantastic tool to use. What also confuses me is that you have this video, and a month later you release another video giving ways you can earn money using Bubble. I'm unsure the path you're taking as a content creator, however, your trail of videos is somewhat confusing.

Exactly I fully agree, I have days looking to find out how to make this web app work but maaaan, it's pain not like coding pain it's more than that, also i have to say finding solution for the problem you face UHHHHHHHH, It's not only hard it's god damn impossible and I'm going back to coding 'f no code'. My mind just couldn't understand how the logic works on bubble maybe there is no logic.

Bulshit 🤦🏼‍♂️

Cope much?

agree so far

Wow, what a hate in the comments :D XD BLOATED crap of code. Compared to apps even written in big frameworks like Angular, man hands down. Tool for building very simple apps. For any of my ideas this tool was useless. Thankfully I am dev. People will deny your opinion, do not worry. Becuase most of them have no clue of technical stuff. Most of them will build crap and try to get money for this. Good luck though XD, man ... milllion of dollars $$$$$$$$ $$$$$ $$$$ billions... for no code XD

very good video

If you need to use bubble or these no code platforms, you’re probably in the wrong field.

I agree.

Whole video is straight up lies wtf. Hard to learn? People have been learning for a month and build $1 million dollar business. It's front end and backend, it's all customizable . You can scale anything with Bubble. If you figure out you need more than what Bubble can handle (rare), then easily use AI to build everything from scratch along with a programmer