I so agree with the “flying for a good time and not for a long time”

@febbylyan

7 ай бұрын

high fiveeee

Airline job used to be rewarding during the 70's to 90's, because of the pay differential; when compared to ground job. From year 2000 onwards; ground pay scale caught up with flying crew's pay. So it didn't look so lucrative anymore.

@febbylyan

7 ай бұрын

that's what I had heard from senior crew members as well! they had mentioned how flying was a lot more lucrative way back when

@jessicaribeiro8928

Ай бұрын

If you live in a country with good salary, I do not see many reasons to become a flight attendant because you could just stay in your home-country and find a job for life.

Wow never know about these. Thanks for sharing, it is making me more appreciate what the flight attendants are doing for us. Well, every job has its pros and cons. All the best to y'all.

I love what you said about flying. I work for a US based carrier in Singapore as a ground agent. I realized my office has many ex SIA cabin crew and they did say this: TIRED. They stopped as they say like you have no life at all and your sleep timings is a jumbled mess.

@febbylyan

7 ай бұрын

thanks for sharing (and watching the video)! I echo the sentiment - flying is definitely not as easy and fun as it looks like from the outside

@mriz7258

7 ай бұрын

@@febbylyan Like some more i heard post covid become less glamorous as layovers gotten shorter. So they usually legit reach in Europe, rest one day then fly back already.

Love this job but I agree with you 100% 🥂

From 2012 onwards, flying was really tough with ridiculous hours clocked. After Covid, things took a turn for the worst. 24hrs layover was converted to turnarounds, during Covid. It did not return.

Thank you for sharing the challenge part as a flight attendants.

The job would be difficult. Putting up with often rude passengers as well. The jet lag and waiting on standby would be horrible. As a passenger it takes me 2 weeks to recover from a trip from SIN to AU… However, I flew as a passenger SIN to MEL on a red eye flight which was horrible. There was only one meal service . I Hope things have CHANGED!

@febbylyan

7 ай бұрын

you’re so right RE: the downsides of flying. sorry to hear about your experience by the way. it’s surprising to me bcs there were always two meal services to MEL when I was still flying. surviving a 7-hour flight with only 1 meal must have been a challenge for sure!

Best thing I ever did! I am in love with this Job, Sorry but my experience as a Flight Attendant is completely different than yours LOVE IT 😍

@febbylyan

2 ай бұрын

thanks for sharing and don’t be sorry! I am glad you are enjoying your time working as a flight attendant. safe travels always :)

It's a fair comment. With this vlog, potential applicants are better informed what they are into.

@febbylyan

7 ай бұрын

exactly - thanks for watching!

Whenever I travel on international flights I often see Singapore Airlines cabin attendants and I always find myself fascinated!

I totally disagree with you. I worked for Cathay Pacific and I love every minute of it. Many of us join at 20 and worked till we retired. As retirees , we still meet up as we have formed strong friendships. Some even went to join united airline as there is no retirement age there. Many of the things you mention are just a matter of prospective . Maybe your character is just not suited for the job. The airline have open the world to us and experiences that are so amazing . On top of that, all our airlines benefits remain even after retiring. It has allowed me to show my family , my kids the world. If I could , I would do it all over again and not change a thing.

Flying is just an exposure. Most will not fly more than 5 years. There are tangible gain and untangible gains and one wlll learn social skills/communication skills. Those who love it then continue to do what you love, it applies to all jobs. Everybody goals and dreams are different.

No loss to the airlines,,,u made a decision, own it

As ex crew only thing I miss about flying is layovers 😃.

@febbylyan

24 күн бұрын

yes! I am with you on that

Every career has its pros & cons, whether Ground or Mid-Air. Enjoy flying while you can, think of the nite stops, shopping, eating & sightseeing. Also be Proud of the Singapore Girl Image, we're a Great Way to Fly. I was proud to be a SG in the mid '85. Those days flying was good. Europe layovers were great. Plenty of rest days & short flts in between sectors. We had more advantage than what the current SQ Crew are facing right now. Mostly direct long haul flts.

@febbylyan

5 ай бұрын

thanks for sharing your experience, it sounds like you enjoyed your time with the airline! I agree - there is also a saying "once a Singapore Girl, always a Singapore Girl" :)

🙏 Many agreed that , it is not the jobs but the badly behaved & selfish people that make the jobs tough! Karma will be served in due time & space just as sure as Birth , Ageing , Sickness & Death! Less regrets for those innocent ones who had done their jobs properly & behaved with respect & care towards their colleagues before their brief union dissolution ... Their memories will be fonder & sweeter! Thank You So Much for sharing the Ups & Downs of our careers! Many Happy Good Blessings in Return! 😊🙏🌷🌿🌍✌💜🕊

Another reason to avoid SIA is their HR department who have little regard for crews quality of life or well being.

I believe: if the standby is 2 days, after the 1st 24hrs, i.e. 0000-2359, the next day will starts from 0600-2359 instead of 0000-2359. Also the standby call up can also be those super rush ones, that reports direct to aircraft. Max working hours is 19 hour operation legally ULR flights but come with 2-4hrs bunk rest period. The hourly rates for ULR flights will have a multiplying factor, plus the layover time will be longer, although there maybe standby duties at layover stations too.

@febbylyan

6 ай бұрын

thanks for adding colour to the point around standby as well as rest period! ah those ULR flights… lol I remember how there were so many rules around ULR when it first started

@alyonapetrova694

5 ай бұрын

I flew JFK-SIN in May and with severe head winds/turbulence over India & Pakistan, wheels up to wheels down was 19 hours and 37 minutes. I took the same flight in November and it was 18 hours and 24 minutes. I ended up in Phuket and Bangkok and got extremely sick/ill with respiratory and sinus infections. I’m almost wondering if it was the flight was a contributor. Taking the same flight in May again.

Hi I enjoyed watching your videos! Just a suggestion - can add subtitles so that it is easier to follow (:

@febbylyan

7 ай бұрын

hiii thanks for watching and the suggestion :) agree that subtitles would be helpful; it is quite a lift for me to do it at this stage of the channel, but hopefully it’s something I can do very soon!

Can you please share your accommodation details during your time with SIA Can you make a video with the expenses that you had during the time with SIA

Could I ask which fleets you were allocated? :) Was it 350 and 737?

@febbylyan

7 ай бұрын

I was 3-fleeted! 777, 330/350 and 380 :)

And so how long were you working for the airline? And what mooted you to join the industry in the first place?

@febbylyan

7 ай бұрын

4 years! I talked about why I decided to join the airline in this video kzread.info/dash/bejne/hJektLiafa-wkdI.html you can check it out if you are interested in learning more. thanks for watching :)

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A new perspective to help you on deciding what you want to bite🥪

@febbylyan

7 ай бұрын

definitely! thanks for watching :)

How should airlines improve employment life's??

So true. Airlines offer a dream and there will always be young women and men who will work for peanuts to travel the world. The damage it does to your physical health, hands/back is under reported. Sadly, airlines will never pay FA a high salary because there is a lot of labor to select from. Pilots is a different case.

@febbylyan

7 ай бұрын

well said - I am 100% with you. thanks for sharing your perspective and watching the video!

Have you ever flown from Auckland to Singapore flight? I think I may recognize you. Just your beautiful eyes.

@febbylyan

7 ай бұрын

yes! but pre-pandemic lol also, that is very nice of you to say :) thank you!

Hello febby What is the age limit ? Please reply as I turned 29 according to my documents. But I passed my video interview and I'm invited for the final interview

@febbylyan

5 ай бұрын

I am honestly not sure if they have an "age limit" per se. since you've been invited for a final interview, there shouldn't be any issues with your age? good luck!

Agree, life of cabin crew are not as good as they look, i was an Fa before, flew to bombay when thete was a bomb threat, flew to joberg when there was ebola outbreak....but you cant refuse unless you quit, so i quited

@febbylyan

5 ай бұрын

wow it sounds like you went through a lot! I agree, situations like those are inevitable

Travelling,meeting new people,flying ...is no longer a luxury it is easily accessible to masses ..so is Cabin crew job no longer attractive..also pay is not lucrative

@febbylyan

2 ай бұрын

that is true - traveling has become less of a luxury and more accessible for sure. even though I am still grateful for the experience :)

just like many other job ...doctor , nurses also like this

@JoanKSX

3 ай бұрын

But nurses at most 10.5 hours for the longest hours night shift (of course if that day duty nothing happen; it's another story if somebody collapse and having emergency near the end of the shift until you finish the whole scenario only you are allow to call it a day). At least they have rest days (usually like 2 rest days after 3 night shift days) in between night shifts. Dr. need to be on-call but they have sleeping room to rest while medical laboratory technologists who work in hospitals usually get the risk of getting cancer after working 10 years (especially those working in Histopathology lab which always handling dangerous toxic chemical such as formalin) and I could see most of the hospital lab staffs with yellowish eye sclera which might be symptom of overworking too since they have this thing call 24 hours on-call (8 a.m. to 8 a.m.), followed by 6 hours rest hours, and then back in post-call working from 2 p.m. to 9 p.m. and then after 11 hours back to the same 8 a.m. to 5 p.m. work or as what the supervisor has scheduled. Well, the working hours that I described as above might differ from hospital to hospital though.

If you're able to share, on the schedule under "duty", what is AALV, ATDO, LO, SSS1, SS80? OFFD i'm guessing it's off day?

@febbylyan

6 ай бұрын

you bet! AALV is annual leave. ATDO & OFFD are off days - one is automatic based on the roster and another one is usually manual due to some domino effects from late arrival/flight cancelation etc. LO is layover overseas. SSS1 & SS80 are standbys - SS1 is a 24-hr standby and SS80 starts at 8am till midnight

@pianist7137

6 ай бұрын

@@febbylyan Cool thanks a lot! SIA standbys are home based right? Saw that some other airlines have airport standbys. Read some feedback mentioning that the standby call up rate is pretty much 100% these days, was your experience similar?

@febbylyan

6 ай бұрын

@@pianist7137 mostly SG-based, but there are a few flight patterns with standbys outstation too! ya I think I was off the hook a few times but it's not comparable to the # of times I was called up for flights lol

@pianist7137

6 ай бұрын

@@febbylyan Seems tiring actually, but pretty sure there're plenty of good moments to be had as well! Just did the video interview couple days back, hoping for the best! Thank you for patiently answering my questions😄

I just failed flight attendant training in an international airline and I should probably feel glad I did not become an FA. Although travelling around the world is still my dream 😢

@febbylyan

7 ай бұрын

I am sorry to hear it didn't work out... keep working on your dream! will be rooting for you :)

@user-ez4jy6jj4g

7 ай бұрын

You could look into other professions, like being a guide,…

@Tani0415

2 ай бұрын

Sometimes not getting what you want is a wonderful stroke of luck!

But u will still want to get in if u had failed to get selected as a FA in the first place - yes?

@febbylyan

7 ай бұрын

no actually - I'd told myself I'd only try once because I was pressed for time to get a full-time job after graduation! so I'm grateful I got in with one try. I've actually talked about this in my other videos, so feel free to check out the flying journey playlist if you are interested :)

Someone should make a video reasons why you should not join the airline as a pilot

@febbylyan

7 ай бұрын

that is a good idea!

There's nothing new here. Indeed, you are paid for your time, and any job you consider will have an impact on your life. I hope you find a job where you can earn money with minimal effort. Your argument seems baseless.

The title of video should be worded more positive. Most jobs have all these issues. You get paid for your time. You have to fit your life around your schedule. Long work hours and unhealthy lifestyle.... The base pay is never enough.... I think these are so normal so probably changed it something like "this is my experience working as a cabin crew". :)

I will tell you how the life of a “crew” is not all that different from a corporate slave point by point as per the video: 1. You are exchanging time for money- You are doing that everywhere. And nowadays it’s actually worse in corporate culture. You have a time to check in but no time to check out depending on your targets, deadline or work pressure. You end up giving a lot of your time to build someone else’s company in exchange of a salary with no perks such as free flight for yourself and your family and restaurant discounts like given by Emirates Airlines. 2. You have little to no control over your life - That’s again worse in normal corporate jobs. First of all it’s 9-6 normally or more.. not including the commute time to and from your work place.. As a corporate employee I only get 2 hours for myself every day and only 2 days to rest, clean, shop and prepare for Monday again. We have to apply for annual leaves as well which may or may not get approved by the company. Cabin Crew has an off after a short flight and 2-3 days off after every long flight.. Tired from a flight? Sure you can sleep for 20 hours straight and would still get time to socialise. With a corporate job.. we can barely can fit a good sleep in our schedule. 3. Long work hours and unhealthy lifestyle - Only being able to get 2-3 hours per day for yourself and to do everything in that in corporate life seems less of a work? Atleast after working long hours Cabin Crews get long enough rest days where they can plan their daily chores and socialise with their friends. Breathing in Closed tube? As a corporate employee we have to sit on one chair and work on the computer whole day while sitting in an ac room full of people as well. I have developed neck pain issues because of sitting for prolonged hours because I cannot keep taking breaks in between. We eat and get back on that chair every day.. talk about frozen necks and shoulders here. 4. Jet legged -So you are saying you wanna travel the world without being jet legged? How do we do that? I feel Jet legging only works when you have to adapt to another country’s time zone suddenly and start to work 9-6 immediately. As soon as Cabin Crew reach their hotels they go to sleep for a good number of hours.. they still function as per their own schedule and not the country’s time zone. You are saying sometimes you have to wake up at 3 in the morning for your flight but why is it difficult? When you get whole day to sleep. A person can easily plan their sleeping schedule as per their flight to feel rested enough to operate on board. I see a lot of cabin crews complaining about mood swings for not getting enough sleep. That’s because you are not sleeping when you are required to sleep and if you are always feeling tired while doing any job you need to eat healthy, drink plenty of water and check your nutrients level. If you dont keep these things in check then you are going to feel that in every job. 5. Forging meaningful relationships- This one is my favourite because cabin crew friendships can last really long. You dont have to be friends with every other crew you work with on board. Sometimes you can click with someone instantly and meet them on your off days like corporate world… we meet our friends on weekends. I know so many crews who are best friends and plan vacations together and swap flights to work with each other. Biggest perk: IF YOU MEET A TOXIC COLLEAGUE THEN YOU DONT HAVE TO SEE THEM AGAIN AFTER THAT PARTICULAR FLIGHT and additional perk: IF YOU REALLY CLICK WITH SOMEONE THEN YOU CAN KEEP THEM IN YOUR LIFE FOREVER AND PLAN A LOT OF THINGS TOGETHER. All I wanna say to the people trying to become cabin crew is that dont get discouraged at all. If you actually compare a crew life to 95% of the people you will see how blessed you are to see the world and meet so many people and experience new things every day. All these negative points are there in normal jobs as well except that in normal jobs you will be stuck in a cubicle surrounded by walls and working like a donkey to grow someone else’s company in exchange for a salary and will only live for weekends and holidays once a year.

@avania23

8 күн бұрын

I’m 100% with you. It’s all about how we manage ourselves into the cc lifestyle❤❤

ugh real asf

I have left sq before my bond.. Will it cause any problem if I come to Singapore for a layover

@febbylyan

2 ай бұрын

I honestly dont think these two are correlated at all. unless I'm missing some context behind your reasons to leave

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Do you do SQ crew?

@febbylyan

6 ай бұрын

I used to work for SQ as a cabin crew member yes!

I'm sorry but after a meal service on a medium haul say Sydney to Singapore, I don't see crew mush more until an hour before landing. You really want it all..

Laughable or perhaps somewhat amusing, but then again… 🙂 takes much effort though

Just don’t do it! 😂 if you care about yourself 😝

Well, two reasons i can think of (although no longer relevant but who knows whether it might happen again the future): mask and vaccine mandates.

@febbylyan

7 ай бұрын

those are fair points!

In the old days, when our employer gave us a monthly schedule, you worked your private life around the schedule. Jesus you young people are so goddam lazy

@navalfa7291

7 ай бұрын

Ok Grandpa. Take Qantas next time, I am sure Aussie MiDlfs. will treat you well.

@Nae395

7 ай бұрын

@@navalfa7291 poor zoomer. You have a lifetime of work ahead, have a cry. Did daddy give you medal for coming last 😂

@Tani0415

2 ай бұрын

Sorry to hear that you had to work your family life around your work life. It definitely would've been tough. That's why it's the old days. Just because no one fought for your rights doesn't mean the new generation will need to give up their rights either. Besides, every company should be improving the working lives for the future, not staying stagnant in old ways and making irrelevant judgment calls. Also, empathy doesn't cost a thing, but it does shave some pride. Let your experiences help you be gentle ❤

@Nae395

2 ай бұрын

@@Tani0415 oh lord with you in charge the reality is the earth won't be here within a decade. Ww3 is imminent

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