That unexpected slide on oil-over-paint was a great addition and a good reminder for us to keep an eye out for little hazards on the road that can become big problems.

I'm so digging the new format, with two cameras back and forth, thats actually so involving! Perfect for vlog and talk

Have you practiced "Japanese Police U-turns" Moto Control has posted on? Looks kinda neat for tight cornering. From a stop, they turn the triple clamp to full lock so the bike is completely pre-loaded in a counter-steer. Then at the moment of throttle, they force the bike to correct its path, taking advantage of all the lean counter-steering from a dead stop gained them, and ultimately throttling themselves through a tight u-turn before the bike leans over into a full drop. I have not practiced this myself.

@bobmiao5105

9 ай бұрын

There's another channel call PiloteDeLigneDroite. It's all about Japanese gymkhana and police riding skill things. I've learned a lot.

@sergiu239

9 ай бұрын

​@@bobmiao5105can you give a link?

@bobmiao5105

9 ай бұрын

@@sergiu239 youtube.com/@AntiPiloteDeLigneDroite?si=UCNbe-wUwhgl_kb8

@Cheesusrice69222

4 ай бұрын

Pilote is good he confuses the shit outta me sometimes as English isn't his first language

@amam231

2 ай бұрын

Moto Control is for aliens

Hi, I've watched every single one of your videos and practice, too little. I'ìve always tought that theory can overtake practice: I was wrong. Now I've tried to practice a little more and the confidence i built in such a small time is amazing! It takes really that little of your time to be a better, safer, driver. Thanks man, for all of that you have you done! #ShutUpAndPractice

This is exactly what I needed! I'm still building up my low-speed confidence on my R6. Just bought some cones to start setting up practice courses. I think the part that I'm still hung up on is my fear of dropping the bike while practicing. It's not a new bike or anything but it's just an embedded fear that I know is irrational. I have frame sliders so all should be fine at those low speeds. Practice makes perfect. I'm gonna try to get some practice in before the weather turns here up in Western Canada. Thanks Greg.

@kimballscarr

9 ай бұрын

Snow will help with practicing low speed drops… !

I appreciate that even when i watch videos of you doing techniques and explanations of things you’ve already done, theres still some to learn from them. Thanks a lot!

I really don’t want to drop my bike… haha

Thanks for this video bro. I've been riding almost 6 months and started on an R7 and it's great to see this.

I was trying to find a video on this topic, i thought it was just me being weird with learning slow speed maneuvers on a sport bike

Hello, thank you for the sport bike low speed maneuvering guidance. I'd been struggling with doing your drills on my Ducati and now I know I shouldn't be so hard on myself. I'll keep practicing and get the hang of letting the bike lean under me. I guess I'll disconnect from KZread now and go practice.

What a great video. I've been riding for 40 years, but measured in miles ridden very little. Therefore I lack confidence manoeuvring on my 1999 TL1000R. I can come to a stop and move on without putting a foot down, but struggle with low speed turns. Interestingly the TL1000R has a fast idle lever on the left bar which could help me practise what you demonstrated - it's one thing less to think about trying to set a little more throttle (if required). I'll have a look at your Apps too. Thanks from the UK 👍

Congrats on the new bike guy! Picking my ninja 400 up in 2 days 🙏. I haven't been this nervously excited about something since I was a little kid. Good advice too thank you

Great man, I've been doing your drills on a full blown bike, good to know such stuff :p

I just got a 750, I have your app. I beg you to do plenty more videos involving this bike. This video did help tremendously

great info ! Thanks for the video !

I spoke with you on Instagram showing my elbow dragg !!! I'm happy to see you getting GSX-R 750 like me this bike is perfect for everything!!!!!

That was cool. The slide on oil and paint!!!❤

yes !!! can't wait to see people accepting the challenge et post video doing slow speed stuff on a hyper sport bike 👀👀👀

Hey! Thanks for all the great vids! I was wondering how I best protect my bike while practicing in case I drop it?

He almost fell “ man that was awesome” you a wild boy 😂. Respect because you could edited that out.

Hi , And without a bicycle kickstand. Without net. 😏🤚The king. Thank you. There is the 90° counter-steering TURN. Which isn't bad too. You already explained it to us. But it is a pleasure to remember it. 🇺🇲 ✌🇲🇫

When i was doing these drills on my gsxr750 i found that to do the tighest parking space u-turn drill, (i think it was two spaces?), i had to go to full lock AND lean it over a lot. In order to do this I had to clutch in and brake to get the bike to "fall into" the turn, and then clutch out and gas out of the turn to pick it up just before the bike fell too far. Its a pretty risky and impractical technique but i was able to achieve much tighter circles than what he demonstrated in this video.

@nicktesla4979

2 ай бұрын

I second that. I do U-turns or “every park lot turn”, it damn hard, i found i need to get 8-10mph during the turn

YES!! Crazy 13 on a sport bike will be a sweet video! Please get both POV

Yes!!!! The video I was waiting for!!! 🙃😁

I am a beginner, I have a license for 2 months and a motorcycle for a month and a half. I have a CBR650r and the first time I tried the white belt I was shocked at how hard it is. Now I'm used to it and I can say that after you train and go out on the street, everything is much easier. I recommend everyone to train. Thank you Motojitsu for all the information you present.

@MotoJitsu

Ай бұрын

instagram.com/motojitsuclub/

I’ve been doing SuperSport low-speed maneuvers from day one and having dropped my CBR twice, paying for Chinese Fairing kits gets expensive real quick, never mind OEM prices. When I take out practice days for myself, I just remove al the side fairing pieces and put in my frame sliders then. Had saved me so far from the fairings costs. Not only is maneuvering a SuperSport harder than other bikes, but it’s also expensive lol

*"Once your skill becomes high enough, the bike becomes irrelevant"* Agreed. The best tips I ever heard from both you and Jerry Paladino, was to just get comfy with the control of clutch, the friction / bite point, and counter balance / counter weight on the opposite foot peg, pressing down through the heel not the toes. That's a game changer if you're not already doing it. Thanks always fella. This next part is gonna seem completely contradictory to me agreeing with you previously though... Back when I had a small sports bike - a CBR500R - I watched your previous video featuring this topic, and you explained about the way that you have to position your wrists whilst doing U turns etc, I was always practising doing the slow speed manoeuvres before nearly everytime I'd go for a long ride. It was mainly because of how incredibly disconcerting it is to put your wrists in such an unnatural position before U turning or doing other tight turns. I'm not blaming the bike, or myself, it's just I could never get completely comfortable with the slow speed stuff on it because each time I'd go to U turn or something, it just wouldn't feel right at all like... It got to the point where I was going to get upright bars installed on it, so it would be more like a streetfighter, like the Bandit 600 I learned on, but a local motorbike mechanic told me that it would have ruined the feel at higher speeds, which oddly enough, I didn't have a problem with. In the end I decided to sell it for a different bike similar to the one I learned on, because I remember leaning that right over. The handlebars on it are almost like that of a bicycle. Very comfy and the wrists are no where near the tank at full lock. I don't have to think about that awkward wrist position, instead I just look where I want to go, get the speed and revs right, nice feel of clutch, full lock and lean, sorted! That's how it should be. I mean, how many times do you see Moto GP or British superbike riders doing U turns on the track?... they're designed to go fast on a race track, not be used for slow races, figure of 8's and U turns 😅 Lastly, over here in Britain, when it's wet, and especially when it's cold, you really do feel the less grip. That's also a cause for discomfort. Over in sunny California or Miami etc, it's bloody lovely. You got the hot sun baking the roads and it's dry most the time. But I'm not gonna complain about that because I only really went out when the weather was good anyway 🙃😝 There isn't many things in life that comes close to the pure pleasure of warm weather riding. I would do it until the petrol runs out, or the wheels fell off, whatever comes first LOL 😊😄😉😜

@MotoJitsu

4 ай бұрын

A CBR500R isn't a sport bike with clip ons below the triple clamp

@Johny40Se7en

4 ай бұрын

​@@MotoJitsu Clips ons aye, but they were low down like on a real bigger sports bike. If you turned the handlebars full loc, the inside of yours wrists would touch the tank.

Thank 😊 u for ur vids....i always learn something....1❤..

Redently bought a sv650s from 2000. This video is perfect timing 😊

Very nice bike you have. I own a 2011 Suzuki gsx-r600 and I just love it. Unfortunately I have to sell it soon.

Thanks man.

Nice bike… I did the California Motorcycle test on a Ducati…. Bad day they were watering the green stuff that day and water was flowing over the test course. Had 15-20 waiting and watching in line behind me. The lady giving the test was her first time giving and knew zero about bikes. I told her the only way I could do it. or anybody else, would be slide it around the course. Well did it but scared her and everybody watching to death… everybody waiting left without taking the test. Her boss came out and gave me a pass. Yep did it no foot down and slide around like a super Moto.

@IN_ZANE_

9 ай бұрын

Great story champ

@kimballscarr

9 ай бұрын

Broken down old man now.., NO WAY particularly with the + 40 lbs odd of blubber I pack now! Reduced to a Guzzi v7@@IN_ZANE_

Dude, thanks so much for the great channel. I've got a question. On slow turns, it looks like you lean the bike a lot and counterbalance by keeping your body upright. But on high-speed turns in other videos, I've seen you try to lean the bike less and hang off it more. Could you help me understand how this slow-speed method helps me with higher-speed turns? Thanks. I really love your videos.

@davidshafer8838

7 ай бұрын

Hey man! I'm not the poster of the vid but hopefully this helps you out. For slow speed maneuvering, you aren't using any countersteer as you would in high speed turns. Because you're truly making a turn by turning the bars in the direction you want, the physics change a bit. For slow speed, you still need the bike to lean to create a tighter turning radius, but you need to counterbalance the effect by staying more upright or putting more weight on the outside. For faster turns, countersteering takes effect. As the bike leans, you want your body position to be on the inside for a few reasons; it allows the bike to remain more upright in the turn thus allowing more contact with the tires. It allows your center of gravity to be lower and allows more weight to the inside. The bike normally wants to remain upright with speed, so we use our body to counter this effect and counter steer to establish the turn/lean. Slow speed = "normal" steering and physics High speed = countersteering and moving weight inside (as exaggerated by riders dragging knee) to account for the lean, traction, etc.

Not since I started gymkhana 😁 Now it's super fun!

I am doing gymkhana on a non modified sport bike for more than 2years. So I can confirm that a lean angle is a key A solution to the handlebars / forearm / tank is required but not necessarily overrotate. Instead of clutch, I am using rear brake+throttle I am not couterbalance. The counterbalance as shown doesn't allow quickly change directions and speed.

Thanks Greg! Is it possible for practices like this to have "external" camera position (like gopro on tripod)? It would help me to see the actual lean angle from the outside.

@JRemy617

9 ай бұрын

Good point

@superbarnie

9 ай бұрын

Don't worry about that just crank your bike over as far as you humanly can

Like Eddie says, be prepared to drop your bike. These drills are quite hard on a super sport, I've dropped mine twice. Tip - put crash protectors on your bike and wear a cheaper jacket for slow speed drills.

@slimfit767

9 ай бұрын

I'm not risking my bike for some drills,forget it.

Try upgrading your Gopro on your helmet its a bit muddy. Love the video. 🙂

Thanks

It's amusing to see what qualifies as "low speed manuevers" in other parts of the world. I am just getting into motorcycle riding and getting my license in Sweden, as part of the licensing we have to complete a course while not doing more than the equivilent of 3MPH at any point on the course.

I nearly dropped my 2022 Busa the first time slow speed u-turns, definitely body position super important.

I was wondering do you still have the scooter? Living in Vietnam and being from the UK I will always have both a scooter and a motorbike, since they have such different functions, with a GSX is a great combination.

Ur vids are beyond 🔥 EXCELLENT.....how i ride....ive learned from u.....1❤...

Awesomeness!!!!!

I'm glad you exist.

Keep it loaded!

I'm a scooter rider and these drills are hard but they are fun.

You listed all the bikes you have done your drills on but you are missing one. A trike and a can am spyder….I’d like to hear your input on the both of those..

Hey greg, I’m looking to upgrade next year or year half to a 600cc, I understand the basic of slow turn is same on any bike, but does feel different slow turning on a 600cc than 300cc due to weight? And if is the chase what the difference like the quicker will start falling or more difficult to make it lean etc. Never tried above 500cc for now and I want to have some advise. Theses videos have been really helpful started watching even before started riding @motojitsu

@motoryzen

9 ай бұрын

It can feel a little heavier. But that mainly involves two variables Wait and whether or not, you're going from a bite. That's lower to the ground like a cruiser to a more top heavy bike such as a sport bike or adv. Bike. Disenorry, I just pointed out above means. The bike will be much more noticeable. A heavier if it's a top hair, your bike, and overall a heavy bike. Then the one you're used to versus if you're just going from. Say a rebel 300 to a rebel 500. You're really not gonna feel the difference much. Almost too bikes in my opinion. Or excuse me as much as going from a revel 300 to say. A, CB 500 X like I did.

@Yamihaski__

9 ай бұрын

Oh and i never even picked a motorcycle before this one, this is my 1st one, not even scooters before, I started from a suzuki urban 125 in my mfs course at my country took me 1 day learning basic throttle brake etc,(those retro cruiser style 2time stroke) the 2nd day I jumped to a z300 the one to do the close road course, after that i jumped to a rebel500 to do the open road exam, and now I’m on my R3 near 1 year doing twisties and daily riding basically. This is my overall exp right now, just for insight that why I asked about the 600cc and above, the inexperience on those bikes makes me worry sometimes

issue is that for the slow speed course test over here you have to go below 5 km/h or they fail you.

@MotoJitsu

2 ай бұрын

who cares what a test says? much more to do and learn and practice after you get your license.

can you show me you enter and do the figure 8 has 19 inches lane road and 22 ft each turn? if doing tight turn free way it's not too hard but if do it correctly in tight lane, you might can't go fast for your leaning.

i can jump on any bike and ride fast... i cannot jump on any bike and do super slow full lock u-turns lol, you get use to your bikes weight and geometry and big enough difference nearly cost me lol (13 years riding every day)

Just bought your app

Greg, I am a beginner rider. I practice a lot on a parking space on the Ninja 650. I can do tight turns and circles on 8+mph. But my thumb joints are very sore. I do deep leaning but probably I do most of the pressure on handlebar?

@MotoJitsu

2 ай бұрын

How else are you supposed to get it to lean?

@nicktesla4979

2 ай бұрын

@@MotoJitsu i mean my thumbs and joints are very very soar after the practice. Probably I cling the handlebars too hard?

Side bar 🍸:..ur 🏍 bike tis sooo tight...im soo gkad u went back to sport bikes.....1❤

What kind of pants are those? Thank you and great videos.

@MotoJitsu

26 күн бұрын

don't remember don't have them anymore, look in description for my current gear instagram.com/motojitsuclub/

So how do you low speed turns and how do you do low speed fiqure 8 ?

I think it would be better to show us these stuff if you put a camera on the ground for a third person thew, it well help to show us better everything

Howdy. When I steer with my butt, or lean the bike (shift my weight) before I turn the bars, it doesn't feel like I am counter steering at all. Is This still a form of counter steering that I cant feel in my hands, or something different?

@philiptong4978

9 ай бұрын

counter steering is there to initiate the lean from upright, once establishing desired lean angle in a constant radius turn, steady speed, the front tire points straight ahead or even into the turn at low low speed, the component of gravity result from leaning provide turning force, and yes leaning will also lower your traction limit

I'm surprised you haven't mentioned that the gear ratio (final drive ratio) has an effect on the difficulty of low speed turns with a sport bike. My R1 can do 90+mph at max RPM in 1st gear. The throttle which is 4" in circumference only has to twist just 3/4" or a total of 0 to 67.5 degrees to WFO thus It requires much more precise control to keep it under 20 mph. Take a look at the rear sprocket of any of the amazing stunt bikes and riders who must have 90 tooth rear and probably 2 teeth less than stock up front. WFO on those bikes in 1st is probably only 40 mph. Much finer speed control. Powerful sport bikes can scare the crap out of you if you twitch too much while making tight turns. Yes, more speed and use more lean, but maintain your respect for the power.

@MotoJitsu

2 ай бұрын

Because it doesn't matter what bike you're on or gear ratio, either you know what you're doing or you don't.

Ive been riding sportbikes for some years now, but the one thing that i still dread is making u turns on inclined roads..

@Adrenalean767

9 ай бұрын

Don't do U turns on an incline,problem solved.

@saifaldin_

9 ай бұрын

@@Adrenalean767I try not to if i can; but i live in a very hilly area. Most of the time i just ride a bit uphill to gather speed and then make the turn.

@Adrenalean767

9 ай бұрын

@@saifaldin_ well ok. I live on a mountainous island,if I need to turn i just keep going until I see a flat area.

My first big bike was a sports bike and after trying a naked I realized how bad are sports bikes at low speed!

The jacket you have on in the video doesn’t show on your links.

@MotoJitsu

4 ай бұрын

Because I don’t have it anymore

I JUST found the perfect lot and the owner filled it with police cruisers after me showing up for 1 day

Are you using countersteering to start the lean, ahh never mind just saw it at the end.

@slimfit767

9 ай бұрын

No need to counter steer at low speeds.

@scooty67

9 ай бұрын

so how do you get the lean he's talking about? @@slimfit767

There is nothing like a terrifying crash to smarten you up.., Nothing as bad as this high dipped over the handle bars after hitting a battery at 75 mph square on…. I am ordering the Dainese air bag armor tomorrow…. kzread.info/dash/bejne/aaajw899lcfHfag.htmlsi=qbPy2QIEOMj4Fl0i I wear even at low speed a Dainese Pro Armor Safet Jacket 2… and it saved me big time for sure broken an arm or worse last year…. Low speed drove up a pillar, left bike in first gear turned off ignition and simultaneously dropped the clutch with front tire against a vertical pillar, shot straight up about 5 feet ended with bike 400 lbs and me 200 lbs falling sideways and landing on my left forearm midpoint right on the edge of a curb. Bike saved zero damage… me zero damage. The reactive armor on the arm worked. That was a solid 3 foot fall of 600 lbs onto my arm on the edge of concrete curb.

@kimballscarr

9 ай бұрын

Wonder how much blubber helps my crash performance.

What is that battery bank. Having trouble finding something that low of a profile.

@MotoJitsu

Ай бұрын

instagram.com/motojitsuclub/

@mgmotomi

26 күн бұрын

Zero help, but thanks! I guess.

Bro 10:15 what you said right there is it. I learned to ride back in 2008 in nyc on a kawasaki ninja 650 with ZERO training and just learning on a friend's suzuki, with no guidance. Not to sound full of myself but i have a feeling i was one of those born to ride. I instantly picked up technique and long story short. I never took MSF course but after 3 yrs i sold my bike because of tickets and money issues. Now in 2023 i wanted to get bike again and bypass taking roadtest. So I signed up for MSF course and honestly, I didnt learn shit. I was doing countersteering naturally during our exercises and I was the fastest one without dropping bike or coming out the lines and instead of being given props for it, hater instructor just said i shouldnt counter steer, that I was doing it wrong...and that I should lean with the bike....we were going 5-10 miles per hour....and like I said I actually was doing the drills faster than all and withoutcoming out the line...in my book that should deserve either a just thumbs up, or just no comment and let me do my thing, but to tell me im not doing it right? Fuk that course and those people. HAters always wanna bring you down when they see you got it better than them when they first tried.

you counter balance but those motogp riders touch knees on low speed circle drills. how is that even possible? like physics

After watching Japanese moto gymkhana i noticed their butt is glued to the seat so I guess you don't really need to move it for making tight u turn.

@philiptong4978

9 ай бұрын

counter weight is used to stay rolling, lean more at the same speed

"7 inch slide".... thats what she said

Cool

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Without watching the video I’m going to say too much weight on the bars and not enough thigh squeezing.

Algorithm

I get practicing emergency braking, line selection, etc, etc. But why the emphasis on slow speed maneuvers? 99.9% of riding is at speed, not the parking lot slow speed maneuvers.

@RoeyHaviv

9 ай бұрын

Slow speed drills really show us when we’re not smooth, we’re not masking it with speed so mistakes are very noticeable and relatively easy to fix. These good habits carry over to higher speeds.

@lucascarracedo7421

9 ай бұрын

Besides everything that's already been said, just the fact that most people find it hard makes it a good idea to practice slow speed riding. Overall understanding of the bike's behavior carries over to all aspects of riding. This doesn't mean people also don't need to do one or two track days sometime, at least and if possible. Also, most riders can't exit a petrol station safely and in control of their vehicles.

@motoryzen

9 ай бұрын

For For some or many people, yes. But for others who very often rod and stop and go traffic, as well as their neighborhoods such as food delivery personnel such as myself. Who do Uber Eats deliveries, slow spin maneuvering is often necessary. When every second counts to make the most of every minute per dollar instead of sometimes going through a particular neighborhood where you'd be forced to do a big looping you term through multiple streets. When you could just do AU. Turn right on the same street, you are and get out of the neighborhood faster to get to your next customer's order.

@unxnvzn

9 ай бұрын

Why try to run when you cant even walk or crawl properly?

@motoryzen

9 ай бұрын

Because I. ADDiTION to being able to stop fast and safely you Play also have to combine that with swerving out of The Way from rear ending in idiot in the road or from avoiding an idiot pulling out on You.

...less experience and skill and that bike would have hit tbe pavement for sure . Nice save.

@MotoJitsu

3 ай бұрын

True that!

absence of cone is a clue , he himself is not good enough but stops not to ridicule others , counter balacing is incorrect technique for sporte bikes having very limited lock to lock handlebar turns , nerd to use counter steering , falling inside the turn and using hip muscles, way more challenging