One Trick To Master Counter Steering On A Motorcycle

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Counter steering is a must know if you ride a motorcycle. In this video I talk about an example to help you understand how counter steering works and then demonstrate some exercises to practice in a parking lot.
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  • @AT-wl9yq
    @AT-wl9yq5 ай бұрын

    After reading some of the comments, it looks like a couple of things should have been made clear. Regardless if you understand it or not, counter steering is not optional. Its not some technique you have to learn to go fast. When you turn a motorcycle, you always counter steer. Most people don't realize they're doing it, and it becomes a safety concern. If something isn't going right and the rider panics, they end up turning right into what they're trying to avoid. The only time you don't counter steer is when you are going very slow. You turn the handlebars in the direction you want to go. As you build speed, you get to a point where friction will force you to counter steer. I don't think he mentions this in the video.

  • @lewisbb04

    @lewisbb04

    4 ай бұрын

    thats cuz its not counter steering.. push right go right push left go left lol.. they explain it as counter steering because your left hand pulls left as you go right .. thats because your right hand pushes right to go right.. the term is so dumb

  • @Hpro1i

    @Hpro1i

    2 ай бұрын

    @@lewisbb04 You're actually just tilting the bike. ie. you push on the left handlebar, the bike will tilt to the left and, as a result, turn left

  • @kingjamir2135

    @kingjamir2135

    2 ай бұрын

    @@lewisbb04i think its called that because if you want to go right. Push right which makes the wheel go LEFT while the bike leans to the RIGHT.

  • @StewieTopless

    @StewieTopless

    Ай бұрын

    It’s called countersteering because to initiate the lean you turn the front wheel the opposite direction of your desired direction. Because of gyroscopic procession, once the rider has chosen his appropriate lean angle the wheel turns into the turn on its own. The bike is self balancing the entire time. When you push the bar left, the bike falls to the left until you stop pushing the bar, the bike knows in order to stay upright it must balance it self by countering what you did to get it to lean & turns the wheel in the direction of travel to stay upright & not completely fall to the ground. Every input to the handle bars upsets the balance of the bike & it corrects it self. This is why it’s so imperative to keep light on your bars & not put unnecessary pressure on them. If you hear a biker talk about pain in their wrist, they ride in the “push up” position & that is not good for any type of riding…

  • @_jess2much
    @_jess2much2 ай бұрын

    You’re the first person to make this make sense for me. Oh my god THANK YOU.

  • @mauriciomaldonado5699
    @mauriciomaldonado5699 Жыл бұрын

    I have spent hours looking for videos on this subject and this is by far the only one people should watch. Thank you for posting.

  • @Illstatefishing
    @Illstatefishing17 күн бұрын

    The lifting of the bike in the begining did it for me, thanks

  • @adrianjackson3361
    @adrianjackson3361 Жыл бұрын

    Thanks Andrew, in line with many other previous comments, this is a very helpful tutorial. Thanks for taking the time to produce this.🙏

  • @aliboenky
    @aliboenky5 ай бұрын

    ive been lookng on tons of videos about counter stearing and yours gave me that click to really understand how to start practicing ; great man you rock!!

  • @LAIRDO-
    @LAIRDO-8 ай бұрын

    I'm a new rider and this was very helpful. I've heard of counter-steering but didn't understand it until now. It's a really weird thing to comprehend but watching you, it seems to make sense...although on the surface it seems counter-intuitive actually. Thanks!

  • @kjellg6532

    @kjellg6532

    Ай бұрын

    Actually you learned this as a kid learning to ride a pedal bike. Do not make so much theory out of it, just get mounted and start practising.

  • @microatmospheremicrosend

    @microatmospheremicrosend

    27 күн бұрын

    Many riders have been brainwashed to think CS always happens, but the thorough research I did revealed that that is false. There is clear proof on youtube of MC and bike riders who fully operate without ever touching the handlebars.

  • @lisasparling2431
    @lisasparling2431 Жыл бұрын

    Thank you for making this easy to understand!

  • @user-zj2vi4lm3b
    @user-zj2vi4lm3b Жыл бұрын

    It is so useful! I watched a lot of videos and i could not understand anything but then i found this one and i can finally understand what counter steering is

  • @mahalomydude5900
    @mahalomydude5900 Жыл бұрын

    This is more clear explanation I've watched. thanks!

  • @AndrewHartsock

    @AndrewHartsock

    Жыл бұрын

    Happy to help

  • @CALI_BOY_VLOGS
    @CALI_BOY_VLOGS Жыл бұрын

    I think what gets people is the name '"counter steerin" makes it sound more difficult than it really is.

  • @cr4sher7

    @cr4sher7

    Жыл бұрын

    Exactly ^^ it make it sound like some rocket science while it's pretty simple

  • @softailfun

    @softailfun

    Жыл бұрын

    Push left grip forward - turn left. When the angle of desired lean is achieved maintain a neutral pressure on the grip (push no more and don’t ease off) for the duration of the bend. Bend taken, ease the pressure off, bike will stand up and carry on ahead. Same for right. Nothing complicated here.

  • @Tducks72

    @Tducks72

    10 ай бұрын

    Yes

  • @kenwittlief255

    @kenwittlief255

    8 ай бұрын

    @@softailfun you are not leaning the bike, you are STEERING it by pushing the grips what matters is where your bike is tracking its path in your lane, if you need to TURN harder push harder

  • @softailfun

    @softailfun

    8 ай бұрын

    @@kenwittlief255 Well I’m so pleased we agree. Why are you directing this comment at me? If you ain’t leaning, you sure ain’t steering.

  • @youareaperosn2278
    @youareaperosn2278 Жыл бұрын

    most helpful video I've watched thank you

  • @anettedouglasdotter
    @anettedouglasdotter8 ай бұрын

    Thank you so much for this brilliant video - I FINALLY got the hang of this now!! ❤❤❤

  • @wlfdrgon455
    @wlfdrgon455 Жыл бұрын

    the slow mo really helped thanks dude

  • @DavidMossMGS
    @DavidMossMGS Жыл бұрын

    So helpful! Thanks a bunch

  • @reneguay1347
    @reneguay13479 ай бұрын

    I must say you made it look so simple unlike a lot of other videos thank you very much and i have subscribed

  • @softailfun

    @softailfun

    Ай бұрын

    The video is shit and it’s a cartoon ffs.

  • @kerimnutku1324
    @kerimnutku132411 ай бұрын

    I can't believe it! Thanks, Andrew for this great video. I didn't get it on Learner's course. And although MotoJitsu has a great video with slow mo to show what havens to bike lean when you countersteer, I still didn't fully get it or feel comfortable doing it, thinking bike would tip. After your video, I went straight out and tried. I have made a huge leap forward Thals to you!!.

  • @chelimelasanthosh9594
    @chelimelasanthosh959411 ай бұрын

    cool, you explained very clear

  • @StevenSchapiro
    @StevenSchapiro Жыл бұрын

    He returns 🙏🏼

  • @darrylm79
    @darrylm79 Жыл бұрын

    Great stuff! Never stop learning, never stop practicing! Now you made me wanna go outside and ride. Haha

  • @AndrewHartsock

    @AndrewHartsock

    Жыл бұрын

    Happy to help!

  • @Lehmann108
    @Lehmann1085 ай бұрын

    This guy explains it clearly!

  • @FoAmY99
    @FoAmY99 Жыл бұрын

    I"m getting my first bike next week, and only 4:25 in, I now truly understand HOW you counter-steer. I kept watching other vids talking about it, but it was so hard to figure out were they pushing the handlebar "down" with pressure going towards the ground, or forward. The slow mo finally spelled it out for me. This will make practicing the slow speed maneuvers much easier

  • @AndrewHartsock

    @AndrewHartsock

    Жыл бұрын

    Glad to hear it! Make sure to go practice and get a feel for it once you get your bike. Ride safe!

  • @softailfun

    @softailfun

    Жыл бұрын

    Push left grip forward - go left. Push right grip forward - go right Lean with the bike, the bike will not lean with you. Simples. Good luck on the bike. Ride safe.

  • @16CasualGamer

    @16CasualGamer

    Жыл бұрын

    Oh so push dowwn not push straight lol

  • @XtreeM_FaiL

    @XtreeM_FaiL

    Жыл бұрын

    @@16CasualGamer No. You push straight.

  • @PampersNorway

    @PampersNorway

    9 ай бұрын

    @@16CasualGamer no. Push straight. (some bikes, respond better on pulling the opposite side of the handlebars. that would be pulling on the right side to go left) The reason why all this is due to "Gyroscopic Precession" and " spinn angular momentum", or in laymans terms wheel momentum. If we oversimplyfy it a bit you can pretend that an applied force on the wheel, or in this case, the axel, gets "delayed" 90 degrees with the rotation of a fast spinning wheel. And this effect gets stronger the faster the wheel spins. Here is a good vid on the matter kzread.info/dash/bejne/gJmMq7hmp7C8hc4.htmlfeature=shared

  • @josephleister9198
    @josephleister9198 Жыл бұрын

    Great video...thank you

  • @komanguy
    @komanguy2 ай бұрын

    We see it better in slow motion. Thanks for the great advice!

  • @SurinderSingh-rr8oy
    @SurinderSingh-rr8oy10 ай бұрын

    Very helpful

  • @Perry-666
    @Perry-6664 ай бұрын

    Great explanation

  • @softailfun

    @softailfun

    Ай бұрын

    Shite explanation. It should be removed.

  • @growthfocus2245
    @growthfocus2245 Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for sharing Andrew, found this incredibly helpful

  • @big_chrispy
    @big_chrispy Жыл бұрын

    Love it!

  • @kynoVNs
    @kynoVNs20 сағат бұрын

    I just came back from my very first 3 hours on a course, and i gotta say, when the instructor told us to come at him with 50km/h, lift our left hand up in the air and push the handle bar forward with the right hand, i sorta shat myself thinking about it. It was such a scary thought, because with how the inertia law works here, you don't really understand what Counter Steering is until you try it out on the bike itself. It just doesn't click right in the brain. I for one thought that i'd push the handle bar, the wheel would get twisted and i'd fly off and break my neck. It was a real weird feeling when the bike just started going off to the right on it's own lol.

  • @umerk8177
    @umerk81772 ай бұрын

    Bee riding for about 8 months and still freaking confused with this counter steering God Damn thing. This video got me more confursed but encouraged me to go out and practice. Thanks a bunch!.

  • @kjellg6532

    @kjellg6532

    Ай бұрын

    Do not think, just go out riding so it gets into your spine. It is no theory, it must be intutive.

  • @cjinfa
    @cjinfa29 күн бұрын

    Thank you

  • @abdelrahmanalnajjar815
    @abdelrahmanalnajjar81511 ай бұрын

    well explained

  • @antonioskarasulas7604
    @antonioskarasulas76049 ай бұрын

    Best video on counter steering on the net. Thanks!

  • @captainoates7236
    @captainoates7236 Жыл бұрын

    The way it clicked for me was not necessarily pushing or pulling the bars, even though that's relavent. To lean right, for instance, don't think about getting your body or top half of the bike leaning to the right but just think you need to get your wheels/tyres to the left instead. That way you will steer left and both the bike and you will lean right. Use a bit of restraint at first but pretty soon you will learn how much input you need to tip the bike in and stand it up too. It's pretty useful in gusty side winds too.

  • @paulb1383
    @paulb13837 ай бұрын

    Great video on counter steering. I usually prefer to lean instead but this seems more precise and accurate! 👏 Can't wait to try it this weekend 💯

  • @softailfun

    @softailfun

    Ай бұрын

    You prefer to lean instead of counter steering??? 😂😂😂. Speechless!

  • @jakubadamec3243
    @jakubadamec32438 ай бұрын

    So this is my normal steering since beginning at the school. Thats what they told me, just push a go 😅

  • @Surms41
    @Surms412 ай бұрын

    I think the most confusing part of counter steering is the fact that it happens so quickly, and most will learn it without knowing the name of it. It's the fraction of a second where the wheel is going away from the turn, making you lean, thereafter, you bring it back neutral and coast into it. Very thought provoking video man. 👍🏻

  • @kjellg6532

    @kjellg6532

    Ай бұрын

    Agreed. Most people learn this being a kid learning to ride a pedaled bike.

  • @softailfun

    @softailfun

    15 күн бұрын

    The rider doesn’t steer the front wheel into the bend the bikes own steering geometry manages that. If a rider did try this he’d stand the bike up and fail to make the bend at all.

  • @Surms41

    @Surms41

    15 күн бұрын

    You nudge away from the turn, and the bike falls into the turn, for a handle bar turn. You could also just lean, and you're gonna go that way.

  • @michaelmoore1114
    @michaelmoore11149 ай бұрын

    thank you so much for making this teachable, i understand a lot more after watching ur video. Sick bike!

  • @softailfun

    @softailfun

    Ай бұрын

    Shite video. Dangerous and should be removed!

  • @abduljaljalani9935
    @abduljaljalani9935 Жыл бұрын

    fucking amazing and simple, great vid

  • @pboobooz
    @pboobooz6 ай бұрын

    This is great thank you

  • @roviroipariong7336
    @roviroipariong73366 ай бұрын

    bro what model is your bike??

  • @alchercraft7014
    @alchercraft7014 Жыл бұрын

    Hi now i understand how it work and also i want question one thing, you talking about push and pressure do you mean like you pushing down your handlebar while you're pushing it to the left or you just give it pressure like only push it down and it will automatically goes left? I don't have bike yet so i cant try it yet

  • @XtreeM_FaiL

    @XtreeM_FaiL

    Жыл бұрын

    Push forward aka turn the handlebars opposite direction.

  • @hasibulhasanzeeshan5751

    @hasibulhasanzeeshan5751

    11 ай бұрын

    Pushing down will do nothing, no matter how hard you push. You have to push forward. Think of it like steering: if you want to go left, steer right (push left forward); if you want to go right, push right forward.

  • @kenwittlief255

    @kenwittlief255

    8 ай бұрын

    if your handle bars move up and down they are FALLING OFF they are only suppose to move forward and back

  • @Drewbie_Doo_
    @Drewbie_Doo_18 күн бұрын

    Pretty sure when I heal up I'm gonna have to make a proper explanation video of counter steering. Was looking for something to send to a new rider that explains it and... Only been posting on TT but back to YT for a minute I guess

  • @Wadebrowndrums
    @Wadebrowndrums10 ай бұрын

    Push right to turn right.push left to turn left , it gets confusing when they say left to turn right and right to turn left

  • @jimmynoname336
    @jimmynoname3368 ай бұрын

    That's was awesome ! A minute and I got it! Thank you!

  • @ashleymumbynewton390
    @ashleymumbynewton39011 ай бұрын

    Do you have to counter steer the whole corner or to just start the corner I got my cbt in 5 days

  • @kenwittlief255

    @kenwittlief255

    8 ай бұрын

    on a corner its very touchy (at low speeds) but on slow corners or fast curves you steer all the way thru the turn

  • @MrElosobear
    @MrElosobear2 ай бұрын

    so if i will be going to the right ill push the right and i dont do any left push even a little?

  • @softailfun

    @softailfun

    Ай бұрын

    Yes

  • @Secretsquirrel121
    @Secretsquirrel1214 ай бұрын

    So, is counter steering ' The ' best option to steer a bike? Or as some say 'Leaning' is the way to go.....it's confusing. But this video is by far the best tutorial I have come across, so simply explained. Thanks !!

  • @kenwittlief255

    @kenwittlief255

    4 ай бұрын

    so is turning the steering wheel in a car the best option to steer a car, or say something like shifting your weight to one side of the car seat.... ?! counter steering is the ONLY WAY TO STEER A MOTORCYCLE - dont think about it, dont google it, dont watch videos just GO RIDE YOUR BIKE AND PUSH THE GRIPS AND VOLIA!

  • @softailfun

    @softailfun

    Ай бұрын

    It’s the ONLY way to steer a bike. Countersteering causes the bike to lean, it’s the only way to make the bike lean.

  • @johnhewett9483
    @johnhewett94838 ай бұрын

    Most worrying about this is he cannot remember which side of the handlebars is the starter button😊😊

  • @kenwittlief255

    @kenwittlief255

    4 ай бұрын

    their horn sounds like grinding starter gear teeth!

  • @stuartbailey9941
    @stuartbailey99412 ай бұрын

    Good video but - if you push all the way around the corner the turning arc will tighten, you will lean more and more until you fall over. It should be an initial push (as you said) to overcome the gyroscopic effect then relax the pressure and the bike will naturally go left.

  • @softailfun

    @softailfun

    15 күн бұрын

    Release the pressure an the bike will stand up. Forward pressure should be maintained on the inside grip throughout the bend.

  • @reneguay1347
    @reneguay13479 ай бұрын

    If you stop at a light and want to turn left does counter steering still apply

  • @Opuskrokus

    @Opuskrokus

    9 ай бұрын

    No.

  • @Wasatch_Sasquatch

    @Wasatch_Sasquatch

    9 ай бұрын

    No, this guy is confusing you. At slower speeds up to say 40mph like he’s demonstrating, you are actually steering in the direction you are going but you are ‘holding back’ the front wheel from tucking and, that’s not counter steering and definitely taking off from a stop there is no counter steering whatsoever. Likewise, beginning at slow moving there is a momentary initial push on the inside and pull on the outside but you are mostly steering in the direction you are going after that…even watch his demonstration you’ll see the wheel is turned in not out as he’s describing. Things change when you go faster than 30-40 mph, then counter-steering is the name of the game for smooth wide turns. But, at the same time I would add over-steering has some huge advantages in finishing very tight turns on the street but especially on dirt-biking. That is another set of skills that includes braking, throttle and clutching and squaring your shoulders with the bars to execute them…you shouldn’t have to worry about them yet to just go have fun.

  • @kenwittlief255

    @kenwittlief255

    8 ай бұрын

    if you want to turn the bike right from a stop, keep both feet down, turn the handlebars in the direction you want to go, and friction zone the clutch to get the bike moving. As it moves you will have to lean into the curve and pick up your feet when you feet stable

  • @kjellg6532

    @kjellg6532

    Ай бұрын

    Yepp, but it takes only a second or two. If you start from a complete standstill you may tilt the bike a fraction with your toes without noticing it.

  • @douglasradowick508
    @douglasradowick5086 ай бұрын

    I have 3 motorcycle riding 1.) Rev matching. 2.) Trail braking. 3.) Counter steering. These are the ones I have to get a "grip" on, to be able to free of "newb" status!😱🏍️🥺😵 Doug

  • @AT-wl9yq

    @AT-wl9yq

    5 ай бұрын

    Don't even think about trail braking until you know what you are doing. Its not something you need to know as a beginner. Trail braking is done to keep your suspension compressed as you enter a turn, so you can go faster. Its optional and it takes skill to do it effectively. Counter steering isn't optional. Most people don't realize they're doing it.

  • @tackcoma5280
    @tackcoma52805 ай бұрын

    Sorry newbie question, are you pushing down or forward?

  • @kenwittlief255

    @kenwittlief255

    4 ай бұрын

    If your handlebars move up and down take your bike to a professional shop on a trailer and get it FIXED!

  • @softailfun

    @softailfun

    Ай бұрын

    Forward.

  • @polloisverycool1023
    @polloisverycool10239 ай бұрын

    I was always able to do this bc I went from bicycles to motorcycles but I never understood what I was even doing, thanks!

  • @user-xh1dx9st6b
    @user-xh1dx9st6b8 ай бұрын

    Basically you push it downawards not foraward?

  • @softailfun

    @softailfun

    8 ай бұрын

    Forward.

  • @GloriousRider

    @GloriousRider

    25 күн бұрын

    downward of course

  • @rjackdaw
    @rjackdaw7 ай бұрын

    so that's why Im having trouble. im countering my counter steering

  • @daveroberts1
    @daveroberts13 ай бұрын

    I learnt countersteering in the 70's from a book written in the 30's!

  • @kjellg6532

    @kjellg6532

    Ай бұрын

    And I learned counter steering in mid 50-ies when I had my first bicycle. Nothing fancy about this, its the only way to control a bike, with petrol motor or just leg-motor.

  • @mysticvirgo9318
    @mysticvirgo93187 ай бұрын

    man Counter steering seems like it would feel counter intuitve :)

  • @kenwittlief255
    @kenwittlief2554 ай бұрын

    how can anyone "struggle" with counter steering? Get on your bike get up to 30mph put forward pressure on the left grip, bike drifts left put more pressure on left grip, bike leans left more and turns left harder stop putting pressure on left grip, bike stands up and goes straight it could not be any simpler

  • @SickDayFishing262

    @SickDayFishing262

    2 ай бұрын

    It's confusing because he says you're not turning the wheel to that desired direction, yet here he is. Turning his wheel to that direction 😂

  • @softailfun

    @softailfun

    Ай бұрын

    @@SickDayFishing262 The rider isn’t turning the wheel in the desired direction, the bike is.

  • @SickDayFishing262

    @SickDayFishing262

    Ай бұрын

    @@softailfun I understand how it works. I was answering the question “how can anyone struggle counter steering”.

  • @klarrjames5828
    @klarrjames58288 ай бұрын

    i wonder if countersteering can be practiced on a pushbike?

  • @techtinkerin

    @techtinkerin

    8 ай бұрын

    Of course

  • @kenwittlief255

    @kenwittlief255

    4 ай бұрын

    there is nothing to practice you just DO IT

  • @kjellg6532

    @kjellg6532

    Ай бұрын

    On any bike.

  • @tomjones5783
    @tomjones57834 ай бұрын

    Opps

  • @prabsmrn
    @prabsmrn Жыл бұрын

    I drove motorcycles in India for about 5 years since i was 13 or so without a license. Fell a couple times not big accidents but i learned it by myself. No courses or anything. Came to canada and went to take my knowledge test for motorcycle, I don't even know half of the concepts they asked me about. Really weird how west does stuff.

  • @PampersNorway

    @PampersNorway

    9 ай бұрын

    wierd, yeah. Instead of learning from our own fuckups and risking killing ourselves we perfer to learn by mistakes already made by others..... wierd this.

  • @je-sus-6910

    @je-sus-6910

    7 ай бұрын

    @@PampersNorwayroasted

  • @DuckingAround58
    @DuckingAround5810 ай бұрын

    Am I pushing out, our pushing down?

  • @EROCC007

    @EROCC007

    9 ай бұрын

    Out

  • @countryjoe3551

    @countryjoe3551

    6 ай бұрын

    Push the grip forward.

  • @jakeR1954rr
    @jakeR1954rr Жыл бұрын

    Beeeeep oops

  • @Fish-bj1sj
    @Fish-bj1sj10 күн бұрын

    Says push right.. pulls right..

  • @josephmccullum9965
    @josephmccullum996510 ай бұрын

    Deep down inside people have a fear of riding

  • @kenwittlief255

    @kenwittlief255

    4 ай бұрын

    people who are afraid of riding do not know how to control a motorcycle The MSF beginners course should be required in the US

  • @cardboardgaming398
    @cardboardgaming39825 күн бұрын

    You can’t just lean and turn??

  • @kjellg6532

    @kjellg6532

    22 күн бұрын

    And how do you get onto that lean? For a split second you coutersteer. In the turn your front wheel follow the turn, but you are in an unstable equilibrium, you constantly correct your lean with tiny tiny movements of the handlebar. You ride too fast with too little lean, then you steer outwarsa for a half second and cet more lean - you countersteer in the turn to keep the turn.

  • @snachev2010
    @snachev20109 ай бұрын

    Why counter steering? Don't you go in the same direction you go with the handle bar

  • @Opuskrokus

    @Opuskrokus

    9 ай бұрын

    No, you go in the direction the bike is leaning,

  • @kenwittlief255

    @kenwittlief255

    8 ай бұрын

    NO at riding speeds the bike is self balancing and it goes straight all by itself to make it turn you have to hold it OFF its self balancing, and you do that by pushing a grip forward when you push the right grip forward the bike leans and turns to the right - its the opposite of what you do going around a corner at 3mph

  • @kjellg6532

    @kjellg6532

    Ай бұрын

    @@kenwittlief255 You do exactly the same going in 4,8 km/h. The first moment you get into a tiny lean by counter steering, then you contol that lean with the handelbar. As in any turn.

  • @softailfun

    @softailfun

    Ай бұрын

    @@kjellg6532 Just a question. Do you actually ride a motorcycle. I only ask because you give shit advise throughout these comments.

  • @Wileylikethehawk
    @Wileylikethehawk19 күн бұрын

    The confusion about this is confusing to me. Have you ever ridden a bicycle faster than walking speed? You’ve already done this, then.

  • @irfanoruk4998
    @irfanoruk499810 ай бұрын

    sen nereye gitmek istiyorsan gidonu oraya çeviriyorsun. gitmek istediğin tarafın gidonunu ittirmen lazım. sen bisiklet gibi sürüyorsun; kontra tekniği değil bu.

  • @johnsimms818
    @johnsimms81810 ай бұрын

    The virst part totally confuses people .use the kis principle. ( keep it simple ) sitting on the bike and showing how its do is it .the rest is just background noise . practice! Practice, practice!

  • @microatmospheremicrosend
    @microatmospheremicrosend10 ай бұрын

    There is power steering for MC's, using the inertia of the MC through gyroscopic precession to LEAN the MC. Other features are involved, too. See the Bozeman demo of how a gyroscope reacts to the torque amount and direction applied. ZERO counter-steer is used on MC for turning, that is dangerous. ONLY handlebar leveraged LEAN is used for turns. This is obvious, when you see demo's of turning without touching the handlebars. A two-wheeled vehicle must stay balanced, if you steer opposite (counter-steer) your lean direction, you will fall down.

  • @kenwittlief255

    @kenwittlief255

    4 ай бұрын

    this jackass is trying to get motorcycle riders killed anyone can see how counter steering works in 5 seconds on a motorcycle Just TRY IT and see for yourself, words are not necessary

  • @GoneToHelenBach
    @GoneToHelenBachАй бұрын

    Credit to you for attempting to explain counter-steering but your video is misleading and contains some incorrect information. You gave the impression early on with you "Push, push, push" comment that the counter-steering pressure must be continually applied throughout the turn. This is entirely incorrect, the brief push on the handlebar only serves to lean the bike over, after which the bars/front wheel will (and absolutely need to) turn in the direction of travel for the bike to continue through the turn. At 5:30 you said "I'm keeping constant pressure on my right hand", yet the bars were clearly turned to the right, so you were not keeping constant pressure on your right hand, nor should you be. I've never watched any of your other videos and I'm not suggesting that your followers abandon your channel, however, this is an important subject and a fundamental part of being in good control of a motorcycle, so in the interests of improving everyone's riding skills I strongly recommend both you and your viewers watch the counter-steering videos by Moto Control. Good luck, happy riding and stay safe out there.

  • @kjellg6532

    @kjellg6532

    Ай бұрын

    I fully agree in your comment. I fully know the theory behind counter steering and had som problems with this video. Your explanation is fully correct. One counter steer to get a lean, then hold the lean using normal steering and throttle.

  • @charlesbynum

    @charlesbynum

    22 күн бұрын

    @@kjellg6532 When someone uses the term "normal steering" you know they don't have a clue.

  • @softailfun

    @softailfun

    15 күн бұрын

    In order to turn right you push the right grip forward. The bike will immediately lean and steer right. Forward pressure is maintained on the right grip throughout the bend. If you need to tighten the turn push a little more, if you need to widen the turn, ease the pressure off a little. The front wheel obviously steers into the bend but this is accomplished by the bikes own steering geometry and not rider input. Simple. This works the same on sports, cruisers, customs, tourers and any bike in between.

  • @GoneToHelenBach

    @GoneToHelenBach

    15 күн бұрын

    @@softailfun Your third and fifth sentences are contradictory. There's no need to maintain forward pressure on the right grip throughout the bend and doing so would fight against the bike's geometry-driven desire to turn into the bend, this is why a bike can continue to go round in circles without holding onto the handlebars. Making micro-adjustments throughout the turn, to account for surface conditions altering the steering and/or changing radius, does require rider input, but continual pressure on the inside grip is definitely not needed.

  • @softailfun

    @softailfun

    15 күн бұрын

    @@GoneToHelenBach Question, do you ride a bike or are we book bashing here? My 40+ years of riding bikes says that my description above is accurate and non contradictory. Judging from your last comment I don’t see how you can ride because you’ve probably be preaching this bs from a hospital bed, because you’re not going around any bend soon if that’s your plan on steering a motorcycle.

  • @DannyBashy
    @DannyBashy5 ай бұрын

    I seriously about to get mad all these videos show the handle bars go in the direction of the turn he says push right but the right handle bar is going towards him so that would be a pull not a push hoe tf does this make sense

  • @kenwittlief255

    @kenwittlief255

    4 ай бұрын

    try it when you PUSH the right grip forward at speed, the bike leans to the right and it pushes BACK against your hand and yes IT turns slightly to the right to maintain balance - when you stop pushing the bike stands up and goes straight The motorcycle is self balancing at speed to make it turn you push and hold it off balance, as described

  • @kjellg6532

    @kjellg6532

    Ай бұрын

    Agreed. Confusing. One starts pushing to get a lean, the control the turn and lean with normal steering and throttle.

  • @softailfun

    @softailfun

    Ай бұрын

    @@kjellg6532 Wrong! The rider never steers into the turn/bend, if he did he’d stand the bike up. Why? COUNTER STEERING doh!

  • @kjellg6532

    @kjellg6532

    Ай бұрын

    @@softailfun You find some interesting details in this article with references to further reading: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bicycle_and_motorcycle_dynamics

  • @softailfun

    @softailfun

    Ай бұрын

    @@kjellg6532 So let me ask…. Do you actually ride a motorcycle?

  • @TheBigb1973
    @TheBigb197311 ай бұрын

    Dont think just do. If you think too much youll be in trouble. Just ride it like a bike

  • @countryjoe3551

    @countryjoe3551

    6 ай бұрын

    🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @AT-wl9yq

    @AT-wl9yq

    5 ай бұрын

    There are hundreds of youtube videos that show riders panicking and steer directly into what they are trying to avoid.

  • @kenwittlief255

    @kenwittlief255

    4 ай бұрын

    you cannot manhandle a motorcycle like a bicycle the front WHEEL on a motorcycle alone weighs more than an entire bicycle A motorcycle weighs 2 to 4 times more than the rider a lot of young people think they know how to ride a motorcycle because they can ride a bike, and they end up DEAD!

  • @microatmospheremicrosend
    @microatmospheremicrosend Жыл бұрын

    You begin a turn by unbalancing in the direction of the desired turn by leveraged torque using the handlebars. You regulate the turn size (radius) by the amount of torque you apply. Reversing that torque will return the bike to vertical balance and straight line travel. Neither you nor the bike ever steers opposite the direction of lean/turn, or you will lose balance and fall down. This explains how hands-free riders can have full control without touching the handlebars by weight shifted lean, instead of handlebar torquing to lean/turn.

  • @kenwittlief255

    @kenwittlief255

    4 ай бұрын

    this jackass ....again!

  • @kjellg6532

    @kjellg6532

    Ай бұрын

    Noop. There are videos were the handle bar is locked straight. The motorbike is next to not controllable using your body. To get it into a turn you in practical life always counter steer, just for a split second at least.

  • @microatmospheremicrosend

    @microatmospheremicrosend

    27 күн бұрын

    @@kjellg6532 That video was far from scientific proof. See the YT videos where riders have full control without even touching the handlebars. The moment they LEAN left, the bike steers left because it is designed to maintain balance by self-steering, they stay balanced even when the rider leans by steering toward the lean. This balances the falling force and the centrifugal force, while traveling away from a straight line. A bike rigged without any steering, with or without a rider, always quickly falls down!

  • @hardbodychevy
    @hardbodychevy3 ай бұрын

    Just to let everyone know this is not counter steering.... counter steering is literally what it sounds like..... Steering the opposite direction of the turn your taking.... it allows the front tire to have more of a contact patch with the pavement... also allows for tighter cornering without ending up going really wide..... anyone can look up any GP race and look at the direction of the front wheel while in a turn you'll see what I'm talking about

  • @StewieTopless

    @StewieTopless

    Ай бұрын

    It’s called countersteering because to initiate the lean you turn the front wheel the opposite direction of your desired direction. Because of gyroscopic procession, once the rider has chosen his appropriate lean angle the wheel turns into the turn on its own. The bike is self balancing the entire time. When you push the bar left, the bike falls to the left until you stop pushing the bar, the bike knows in order to stay upright it must balance it self by countering what you did to get it to lean & turns the wheel in the direction of travel to stay upright & not completely fall to the ground. Every input to the handle bars upsets the balance of the bike & it corrects it self. This is why it’s so imperative to keep light on your bars & not put unnecessary pressure on them. If you hear a biker talk about pain in their wrist, they ride in the “push up” position & that is not good for any type of riding…

  • @claudiusgensin
    @claudiusgensin6 ай бұрын

    This driving skill is for people who do not now how to really lean the bike like Pro moto GP riders. I was learning how to drive the bike from Eddie Lawson and Freddie Spencer from racing track in that time. There is nothing better to feel the asphalt with your knee in the middle of the corner. This is motorcycle philosophy! Also push the horn button instead starter show me lot's of your driving experience.....any how good video for lazy people who do not like lean the bike.....good for harley fat boys...and japanese police officers with big fat heavy 300 kg bikes....for us in EU street racers with 200 HP sounded by Akrapovic and 200 kg bike... ????? forget it...

  • @countryjoe3551

    @countryjoe3551

    6 ай бұрын

    🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣Cool story, brah. Got any more drivel that you want to share??

  • @kenwittlief255

    @kenwittlief255

    4 ай бұрын

    poser rides motorcycles on his GameBoy

  • @softailfun

    @softailfun

    Ай бұрын

    Never have I read such drivel. What’s this twat talking about????😂😂

  • @ThePunksboy
    @ThePunksboy8 ай бұрын

    This is nonsense

  • @AT-wl9yq

    @AT-wl9yq

    5 ай бұрын

    Care to place a bet? Make a video proving otherwise. For every $100 you put up, I'll put up a thousand. Before you get too excited, this is a bet you will lose. You can get this information right out of a textbook.

  • @softailfun

    @softailfun

    Ай бұрын

    😂😂

  • @softailfun

    @softailfun

    Ай бұрын

    @@AT-wl9yq Right 👍🏻

  • @khtan585
    @khtan5854 ай бұрын

    Non sense display .... sorry

  • @CooterOnDaMind
    @CooterOnDaMind5 ай бұрын

    It's the wording that is confusing. It's like riding a bicycle with no hands and making turns. If you can't do that then you shouldn't be riding motorcycles.

  • @kenwittlief255

    @kenwittlief255

    4 ай бұрын

    if you think you can ride a motorcycle because you can ride a bicycle you will die at the first 45mph curve you come to when you cross the centerline and hit the opposite side guardrail

  • @Petbacteriadotcom
    @Petbacteriadotcom10 ай бұрын

    The push on one side of the handle bars is about creating instability, which is then immediately corrected by the normal lean and steering.

  • @michaelmoore1114

    @michaelmoore1114

    9 ай бұрын

    so essential when coming out of a lean or slower speed? just got my first bike today! getting my helmet tomorrow and gonna start learning to ride. feel free to drop some tips.

  • @softailfun

    @softailfun

    9 ай бұрын

    But not by the rider. The rider maintains a pressure on the inside bar.

  • @cardboardgaming398
    @cardboardgaming39825 күн бұрын

    You can’t just lean and turn??

  • @softailfun

    @softailfun

    15 күн бұрын

    Nope.

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