You’ve done it again Jeff! A wealth of great info for us DIY homeowners, I really enjoy your approach to any task. It’s clear ,concise and filled with very useful tips. I followed your tips on cabinet painting and they came out beautifully! I’m watching some on subway tile install now. After this I’m going to the floor! I really appreciate all your videos and input. You make my job easier and more enjoyable! Keep up the great work and many thanks!

Thanks again ! You awesome and always come through for me when I have a question. I have been doing this stuff for 40 years and few people can answer my questions, but you can and I cant tell you how much I appreciate you ! Keep up the good work.

I was literally researching underlayments last night. Perfect timing!

always love watching the videos Jeff! I've learned so much from you, a true teacher. thanks for everything

@youtukang

2 жыл бұрын

Yess sir 👏👍👍

@HomeRenoVisionDIY

2 жыл бұрын

I appreciate that!

Hello. I have been remodeling a old slab-on-grade 3 bedroom and enjoy your videos. This floor information is timely for me. As I watched I was formulating questions. Funny thing is you answered them, it wa like you were reading my mind. Many thanks. Blessings to you and your family...Leo

I have a small 6x6 concrete area I am putting floating floor on. I have had the boxes of flooring for a few months. I returned the junk underlayment I bought and ordered this!!! Love you guys!!

@HomeRenoVisionDIY

2 жыл бұрын

nice. Cheers!

I paid the tiny premium for this product and didn't realize all the benefits for ease of installation. Glad to know it's approved by Jeff!

Looks like the perfect product for my Sprinter camper van build that I'm planning with LVT as the final finish floor.

@HomeRenoVisionDIY

2 жыл бұрын

Good choice!

Jeff is a Great man , He encourages me to make more youtube videos about our remodels. 😁😁. Great job guys.

I actually think this video is a sign from the “powers that be” that I CAN do my bathroom remodel on my own… this series will cover every item on the list down to moving from single to double vanity. Thanks, Jeff.

@kevinhein3466

2 жыл бұрын

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@maymofoo8637

2 жыл бұрын

Is this needed for porcelain or ceramic for a bathroom?

@DWMtukwila

2 жыл бұрын

@@maymofoo8637 No, tile connects directly to the floor.

Can I triple ‘like’ this show?This guy Jeff is too much. Too much good content. Thank again for the tips. Cheers

@HomeRenoVisionDIY

2 жыл бұрын

Cheers!

Hey there Jeff! Perfect timing for posting this! 👍 We are currently renovation a 1910s house. Unfortunately, our contractor bailed on us and now we our DIY’ing (or DIOurselves). Nevertheless, we are grateful to have your videos and we are confident we can conquer DIY’ing! 💪😅 Currently, we are battling with the floors. Trying to figure out how to level the floors or wondering if we can cross our fingers that the under layment (such as this one) will suffice?? 🤞 Unfortunately, it’s not in our budget to rip up the hardwood tiger wood flooring nor repair it. So we can’t put in new subfloor. So we are using the hardwood flooring as our subfloor. However, we do notice about a 1/2” dip in one area. Apparently, the house is settling (because it’s a 100+ year old house on a hill) and the joists are warped. To mitigate the bounciness we’ve drilled wood screws into the hardwood to the joists. But this still doesn’t solve the dip. Flooring feels solid, but again.. how can we fix the dip or will under layment help??? Please help! 🙏😇

@ArtOfTheWeld

Жыл бұрын

what did you do?

One thing to be aware of regarding an underlayment, a lot of flooring companies that say not to use one will use it as an excuse to void your warranty on it if anything goes wrong. That info came to me directly from someone that deals with selling it daily and dealing with manufacturers on behalf of customers. I put one under mine anyway. I found that it helps with keeping those initial rows of a floating floor in place instead of sliding around.

@feyrband

2 жыл бұрын

That should be covered in specific flooring's literature.

I’ll be doing vinyl plank flooring soon. I’ll check this underpayment out. Thanks for the info!!

@sajidsarkar9574

2 ай бұрын

Is underlayment necessary? I am also planning to install vinyl flooring and the planks have a rubber material coming with them, so in that case is it necessary to have a separate underlayment?

Wow I'm so happy about this video. Exactly what I was talking about yesterday.

Getting a good underlayment with a cushion effect is key. When I laid my floor and then walked on it it feels so smooth doesn’t feeling like I’m walking on hard wood.

Prefect timing. I'm currently researching floors now.

@HomeRenoVisionDIY

2 жыл бұрын

You got this!

Awesome! I used DMX 1-step for basement floor room and it worked really well for LVP. You can hear little clicks if you walk around, I think that's common, but will prefer this product next time. Totally agree "working with a scroll" is accurate. It wasn't too bad and otherwise went down easy, floor was done within the day.

@youtukang

2 жыл бұрын

🤝🇮🇩

@anthonyrochon3907

2 жыл бұрын

Whats the difference between DMX Airflow (red) and DMX one step (blue) ? Would really like to know why the 2 different products

@davidkirkham6497

2 жыл бұрын

You hear clicking because your floor was not level to LCP manufacturers specifications!

Great thorough explanation!

love all your youtube episodes. i now watch them everyday.

@HomeRenoVisionDIY

2 жыл бұрын

Cheers Colleen.

Very much enjoyed your video. The information provided is bonanza to use. Great job

Thanks Jeff. Lots of positives for using this underlayment instead of DMX 1-Step. I understand you're not allowing yourself to mention the EVA flooring underlayment by name, but as a commenter I can. Anyhow, it looks like the best pricing for this underlayment is ordering online from Home Depot since. The link you provided has this at $0.75 sq/ft, but if you buy direct from Home Depot (in the USA) it costs $0.51 sq/ft. Thanks for another informative video.

@HomeRenoVisionDIY

2 жыл бұрын

it all comes down to logistics. Hopefully one day soon we will figure out better pricing on flooring products. Cheers!

@nnnmmm620

2 жыл бұрын

@@HomeRenoVisionDIY 8ì

@hall87668

2 жыл бұрын

im seeing 95 cents sq/ft now :(

@nasdaq15

2 жыл бұрын

Is the EVA flooring underlayment better than this Abatech underfloor for reducing sound?

@kernelpickle

2 жыл бұрын

The only downside is that you won’t be giggling to yourself nearly as much during the installation if the song “X Gon’ Give It to Ya” happens to be playing. Maybe that’s a non-issue for most folks, but I always enjoy things that have a coincidental musical theme to them. I suppose you could throw on some “Dancing Queen” and make do with this stuff, if that’s your thing. It seems like going from AbaTec to ABBA is a bit of stretch, but maybe it’s just me.

You and your ideas are always very great. Very amazing me useful.

Hi Jeff, Awesome video as all yours are and informative and detailed with product information. Love it. My question is I have 2 layers of tile on my kitchen. Can I add LVP to this or am I pushing the limit to weight load. thanks again

@ArtOfTheWeld

Жыл бұрын

what did you do?

Thanks so much for this! I'm looking at tackling a bedroom with an old subfloor. The floor is solid but I do have some 1/4" seams at joints in places... Can I use this as my smooth surface before laying vinyl sheeting?

Hi Jeff, If I need an underlayment that will be placed down on a 2nd floor unit with an in-law unit downstairs, will this product be sufficient in terms of maximizing sound proofing? What other underlayment do you recommend that may have a higher sound rating if this is a priority?? Thanks a lot and definitely will be tuning in to your upcoming series! cheers!

Really enjoy the videos and learning about the newest things. Thank you for that! Kinda in relation as it is similar flooring but, quick question, I am trying to add some floating flooring to match what is there, to patch a space in a kitchen that used to have a cabinet in it. It seems the floor under the cabinet was just slab and there is a 8th inch one side and half inch the other side difference in the floor level. I am using Henrys 345 to fill in the difference layer by layer to build up the half inch side and it is taking forever to dry. I am now thinking I made a mistake and should have used self leveling concrete. Would you recommend just keep building it up and waiting for each layer to dry or just bust it out and put some self leveling concrete in there? Any thoughts are appreciated.

@HomeRenoVisionDIY

2 жыл бұрын

I prefer self leveling

Could you do a video on how to pour a microcement floor? They are gaining popularity and it may be a cost effective alternative to other flooring options? I have really been enjoying your videos!

Checked with Abatec for using their product with my 16"x32" (lvt in main floor bathroom in my case) floating floor and they said to contact the flooring manufacturer first which I did and they said it would void their warranty so you have to take that in consideration prior to moving forward. So I was a bit surprised as I planned on trying out this product in my remodel.

Hello, Great videos lots of help. I want to instal luxury vinyl on my kitchen, dinning, bathroom and livingroom, I got a house built in 2019 Can I just put this underpayment and on top my luxury vinyl ?

Question: Anything extra I should do putting a pool table on vinyl plank floor (7mm) in a basement, only using underlay (like this hopefully) on concrete in newer house. Should I have some sort of additional protection on the floor?

I'm starting to install vinyl planks that has built in underlayment (rubber) and without knowing i also picked up some underlayment like you show in this video. I see people say not to use underlayment in that case because of the locking issues you point out, but this underlayment seems different as it's thinner and compressed. You also mention that it's ok to use this type of underlayment because of it's density. I've already got the underlayment cut and laid out in one room and was about to start laying planks...then i figured I should try to make sure it's ok first. In your opinion, do you think it's ok to have extra when the plank has underlayment attached? I'm on a concrete floor...which is flat, at least in this first room. Thanks for all the video's...super helpful!

Hi Jeff! Your videos are amazing thank you. I was wondering what kind of underlayment should i use? i have vinyl floors and winter gets really cold and air blows from the floors and we usually do not wear shoes so our feet freezes. This project will be DIY If you can provide multiple options please that will be perfect. Thanks

Great video, thank you. I have been looking at thicker underlayment due to the fact that I am laying a 3/8" floating floor next to a 3/4" hardwood. Do you think I could still use this product even though the heights of the floors are different? My first diy floor install!

Great video! One question though. Should underlayment be used for vinyl with pad?? Thank you advance!!

Jeff, you are such a great resources for people who want to diy! My wife and I moved into our home a few years ago and the old hardwood floors are very beat up. She wants to install luxury vinyl over top of the hardwoods instead of refinishing them. Is this a good idea? The floors also squeak quite a bit, would something like this product mitigate the squeaking? Cheers!

@neematavassol2954

Жыл бұрын

i wouldn't install luxury vinyl over wood can lead to moisture problems later down the line

Awesome video! Perfect timing well atleast when i found it . I just ordered pergo 10m and quit walk as an underlayment ? Im going over about 500 sqft of hard wood and 400 of subfloor i was thinkn this would suffice any tips would be greatly appreciated! Thanks again all the best

Hey Jeff thanks for the video ! Could you use this product, or would you use this product with an SPC LVP that is 5mm and already has a black foam style underpad attached to it?

i just did my concrete basement using the DMX one step product, easy to work worth, reasonable price and great for DIY'ers.

Jeff great video! Could you use this product on like a pergo laminate flooring instead of using pergo Gold underlayment?

Looks a great product. Our house built in 70's has concrete slab that is slightly uneven, would this underlay work and what would be best flooring type to use over it? Your videos are such a great resource for the novice home restorer like myself.

@DRS112959

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, we are wondering what to do with a dip in our concrete floor, too. We really appreciate Jeff sharing his wisdom with us! Great guy!

Hey Jeff! Thanks so much for the video. You've made a few videos on the topic, but I am curious about using underlayment with vinyl planks that have underlayment already on them. In a few videos, you have said that the underlayment that is attached to vinyl are insufficient. BUT, putting underlayment under some vinyl planks with underlayment voids their warranty. Do you still add this extra AbaTec underlayment if the panel has it's own underlayment and that risks the warranty? Thanks!

@ArtOfTheWeld

Жыл бұрын

no reply?

@AwesomeMunson

11 ай бұрын

I'd like to know the answer to this as well.

Do you have a video for laminate or vinyl floor install and suggestions for basement concrete floor?

Great video ! Currently I am renovating my basement, can i use vinly planks 4mm thick on MDX 1 step or do i have to go with thicker vinyl planks ? does vinly plank need to be more rigid or more saggy flexible to avoid pop out?

Thank you Jeff! When using this underlayment, what thickness of vinyl flooring would you recommend for the Southern California coast area? The local flood guy indicated 6.5mm, what would you suggest? Our condo’s main level is on the 2nd floor, concrete subfloor.

Good stuff, thank you.

Would you use this along with MLV? We want to soundproof our floor as much as physically possible.

Thanks ;) I wish I knew that when we did our floors :)

Is their any chance you could do some videos for great products that are sold in the UK? Much appreciated.

Informative vid.

I’m going to install LVP in my 3 season sunroom (raised deck). Should I put this or any other underlayment to help with moisture/vapor barrier? It’s just plywood floor then open to outside. I might look to insulate from under the deck in the future as well. My LVP has the underlayment already attached and it says I shouldn’t put any other underlayment but I feel like I need a moisture barrier. Thanks for your help!

Hello. Thanks for your video! If you're installing Vinyl Plank Flooring that already comes with 1mm pad underneath, over a plywood subfloor, do you still need to install an underlayment?

So let me get this straight. In another video, you recommended purchasing an underpad from a store other than Home Depot (such as Floor & Decor). This underpad is sold at Home Depot but it's the best underpad? Is it more expensive than the type you recommended from Floor & Decor? Is it worth the extra cost or should I buy an underpad from Floor & Decor? Thank you.

This is so helpful! For clarification -- what do mean when you say newer house? My house was built around 1990. Thanks!

@HomeRenoVisionDIY

2 жыл бұрын

Great question. I am referring to anything built after 1980. Cheers Chrissi!

Hey Jeff, great video, thanks! Question for you, I'm renovating my basement and currently have ceramic tiles installed. Can I just lay the underlayment right over the Tile and then put my vinyl flooring on top?

@HomeRenoVisionDIY

2 жыл бұрын

as long as it is an SPC core. Cheers!

@josephgiannini3223

2 жыл бұрын

@@HomeRenoVisionDIY Thanks Jeff, much appreciated. Love your channel 👌

Great video! Thanks! Question, I just bought some laminated flooring and the salesman at the store said I do not need underlayment because the flooring already has it. I do see a preinstalled thin black rubber-like layer. Do you think I should still use underlayment or is that sales man correct where I do not need it? u

Hi Jeff! Putting in a engineered oak flooring on my second floor above the basement. Looking for a quality underlayment but the one you suggest here seems to be out of stock everywhere. Would you have second or third choices?

Do you have a video or recommendation for heating (or warming) a slab foundation with a floating floor? Do the fold out reflection type pads work? What would you recommend? Or what type of system?

@HomeRenoVisionDIY

2 жыл бұрын

I like to install a heated membrane and then floor leveler. then the pad and the flooring. Cheers!

My local Home Depot’s don’t cary the Abatec. They do have the Lifeproof Universal Underlayment which the “floor guy” at the depot says is the same thing and might be made for HD by the same manufacturer.

Hey Jeff quick question for ya. If I had vinyl plank that has an attached pad, should I add another layer of something like this?

@gregsmith7391

2 жыл бұрын

Yes!

@splinters_pinter

2 жыл бұрын

Exact same question. Got it a HD. Instructions even say do not use and underlayment

Jeff, would you use this with vinyl plank that already has 'underlayment' attached? Like Lowes' Smartcore Ultra. I didn't use any on my install directly on slab, and it sounds like hollow plastic when walking on it.

@PandemicGameplay

2 жыл бұрын

I have Smartcore and I didn't use an underlayment just standard OBS and they turned out great. Smartcore is like 7-8mm I believe which is a good thickness I wouldn't not use an underlayment for anything under 5mm. Some of their cheapest floors like Procore are complete ass.

What about the best sheet vinyl? I had one installed that’s used by our local hospitals. I wish I had used it in my kitchen as well as my sunroom.

Love this guy!!!!

Jeff. I saw your video on flooring. The LVP is now up to $4.70 a sft. I am putting this in kitchen, Living room, stairs and hallway. Ypu said in the flooring video if above $3.50 price point might want to go with engineered flooring. Should i?

I’m finishing my basement with Dricore/Barricade subfloor panels. Is it ok to use this underlayment on top (under my vinyl planks), or will I be trapping moisture and risking the wood on the Dricore?

I'm sold. My only question is this - I have already purchased a thin clear vinyl sheets for my moisture barrier and not sure if they are returnable. If I were to install BOTH this product and the clear vinyl tarp, could it potentially create moisture problems and a place that holds moisture

Hi Jeff, can I use this Abatec with plank flooring that already has the underlayment attached to each plank, or do I need to use plank flooring without underlayment already attached, thanks

5 years ago I used a product like that on top of my concrete floor but it was a different colour, under laminate flooring, never had a problem except the floor was cold close to the exterior wall in winter..thats laminate though...this time I have a new construction slab on grade, 5 foot foundation walls with styrofoam on inside of walls, then filled the hole to the top, tampered ground, 4 inches of gravel, 2 inch styrofoam then one layer of heavy duty poly then 5 inch concrete for slab on grade,...so was wondering if one can put 1 inch rigid foam under vinyl flooring to make for a super nice warm floor...would this create a problem in the floor not being able to breath under the vinyl... or with the vapour barried already under the slab do i have to worry about having a second one on top of the concrete under the vinyl flooring..thanks

Hi Jeff , new here. What would you recommend for flooring in a kitchen ? We bought our house and the previous owner used those square vinyl stick on for flooring ? Would underlay be needed if we were to use anything than vinyl stick on ? 😅

This is perfect timing. I just discovered that a contractor took advantage of my mom and veteran dad, and took a lot of shortcuts in the master bathroom. My hubs and I are going demo the floor, survey the damage, and do it the right way.

So we should use the underlayment AND the DMX sheeting in the basement subfloor? I'm confused now. I want to remodel my basement. Right now it's gutted and with concrete foundation. So I put this underlayment then the laminate flooring? Or the underlayment > dmx > laminate?

Just bought a house and discovered your channel. Time to fix all the things! Question about the underlayment though - I just installed luxury vinyl planks which already had an underlayment attached and the warranty for the planks specifically states that the warranty is void if you install any additional underlayment other than what is already attached to the planks. Is there any advantage to using an additional layer of underlayment if the planks already have one attached?

@HomeRenoVisionDIY

2 жыл бұрын

yes the ones attached are lousy. never buy that product. always buy quality vinyl and a separate underlayment.

@supmiguel

2 жыл бұрын

@@HomeRenoVisionDIY but if we bought those with underlayment attached, is it a good idea to add an extra layer like this one?

Thanks for the demo. So this performs better than 2 lb mass loaded vinyl with a 31 STC? I heard you say it has a 66 STC. That's awesome, but sounds difficult to believe since it's very thin and has low mass. Your thoughts?

Make a video of best soundproofing materias for walls pls.. thanks!

@robertgiresi9515

2 жыл бұрын

He has videos on soundproofing walls already. Just search his channel and you will find!

Would this product work over ceramic tile eliminating the requirement to fill grout lines, or should they still be leveled first? Looking to install vinyl plank in my basement (ceramic tile over concrete).

If I am using this over a wood subfloor on my upstairs floor, should/can I attach this underlayment using staples, or should I leave it floating? Thank you!

Would you rather go with Aba Tec Underlayment or Mass loaded vinyl underneath floating floors for impact noise and general sound proofing? I'm looking to reduce the sound of talking and cabinets closing from downstairs as well as the impact noise from walking from upstairs. The upstairs has slightly sloped floors near some of the walls

@HomeRenoVisionDIY

2 жыл бұрын

they both perform about the same for sound transmission however the abatek has no voc so if you want to save money use 3mm eva if you are sensitive to odor use the abateck. Cheers!

@jtdinh436

2 жыл бұрын

​@@HomeRenoVisionDIY I'm a little confused. Is eva the same as mass loaded vinyl? If it is the same product, is there a benefit to getting the TM Soundproofing one instead of the one from Home Depot? I followed the link to the product from your video, "Soundsproofing Secret that Actually Works", and it looks to be more expensive than Aba Tec. Am I looking at the correct product? Home Depot Aba tec - $.51 / sqft Decorner Aba Tec - $.89 / sqft TM Soundproofing 2 lb Mass Loaded Vinyl. - $3.09 / sqft Home Depot EVA Foam Underlayment 3mm - $.25 / sqft

Saw your youtube ad over a over pass screen here in Mississauga

@HomeRenoVisionDIY

2 жыл бұрын

Cheers, send us pic if you can.

Hi Jeff, does the underlayment need to be taped to the floor?

One thing that wasn't super clear on this specific video, when taping the seams, what do you with seams that end on the corners of the walls?! Do you tape them to the concrete wall if you have access? If you don't do you tape the edge on the cement floor directly?! Curious cause I have an unfinished maintenance room/mancave that was bought with carpet directly above cement floor that has no vapor barrier, so since I might change that in the near future, wanted to know how to properly make this moisture proof on the edges of the room.

@feyrband

2 жыл бұрын

Adhesive sealant would be needed if going direct to concrete, maybe tape on top after that, but I wouldn't trust tape alone long term on concrete. Might be able to tape it to the vapor barrier where it's stapled at the bottom plate as well

In another video you recommend an underlayment with bubbles to create a space between the concrete and the subfloor. I have an older house without a vapor barrier under the slab. Would you recommend a product with dimples over this one ?

Can I put this under stapled down oak hardwood on top of an OSB subfloor that on the first floor over a crawlspace? Can't find anything on the internet about using this with staple/nailed down hardwood.

Could you use this Abatec underlayment for traditional hardwood floor install? Thank you

Have you used this with coretec product that already has cork backing?

Question: when laying underlayment are you supposed to lay it perpendicular from the vinyl planks?

How about on top of ceramic tile? Thinking about doing lvp over top of ceramic. Thank ya

me who was going to order ceramic for my heated floor ceramic in my basement bathroom but had leftover engineering floor .. Ho nice that can be used!!

Do you use seam tape when installing this product? What's your thoughts on Homelux Premium underlayment in comparison to this product? It's recommended that I use seam tape so what tape would you recommend for underlayment seams??

Would this product be unreasonable to lay under carpet pad for the added soundproofing benefit? Or is that not advisable? Thank you

What do you think about quietwalk luxury vinyl for an underlayment in a basement. I'm using an 8 mm plank with an attached pad. Looking for vapor barrier and hopefully add a little warmth given im in the north.

This may be a dumb q : 1960 house in London ON, re-doing 5 x7 bathroom. the subfloor is 5" planks at 45 degrees to the joists. The original steel bathtub just sits on the subfloor. Gutting it down to the studs. Do I put the vapour barrier over the entire 5 x 7 (new bath on top)? I'm thinking it it can take cabinets it can take a bath.

Hey Jeff Can I use this product with The Life Proof Vinyl that already has the pad? I have fixed really bad floors before but these subfloors still have some imperfections and was wondering if this would help or using the wood underlayment, but i really don't like that product.

If I’m laying vinyl plank on a plywood floor and using this product what should I use to waterproof and level the floor?

Hey Jeff do you have a video out yet about putting in a heated floor under vinyl plank? I seen the video of you putting it under tile but want to know how to get it under vinyl without it being uneven. Thanks jeff

@HomeRenoVisionDIY

2 жыл бұрын

making it as soon as we get in the studio. Cheers!

@gregfrank9087

2 жыл бұрын

@@HomeRenoVisionDIY thanks Jeff. I'm still about 6 months away from tackling the floors.

Looks fantastic. Does this ship to Europe/uk?

Is underlayment necessary? I am also planning to install vinyl flooring and the planks have a rubber material coming with them, so in that case is it necessary to have a separate underlayment?

Hey Jeff, I love your videos. With your help I am working on renovating my second house. I purchased some laminate plank that all ready has an attached pad that is very thin. Would you recommend still using an underlayment?

@JesseAdams3

2 жыл бұрын

This will depend on the warranty of the plank you purchased. As an FYI, I believe Jeff's video on choosing LVP planks goes into this.

Jeff I like this product a lot, but I have to ask is it necessary to use this product if the laminate I am planning to install already has an attached 2mm underlayment? (Pergo Outlast plus is the product and the company only allows their version of this product to be added underneath their product because of "chemical" compatability. You can check their instruction guide to see what I am talking about. The Pergo version of the "easy cut" is retailing at $79 for 100 square feet. Pretty pricey to me. I'd like to know If I can simply put a good vapor barrier down under the Pergo Outlast?

Is this recommended if the vinyl plank already has a pre attached underlayment? This is going on a concrete floor.

@tomsaywer9883

2 жыл бұрын

Don’t need it.

Hi Jeff Do you recommend Abatec under Lifeproof? Do you need it over Ditra Heat? Does Lifeproof work over heated floors?