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@Av-vd3wk

3 ай бұрын

How the heck does the ALE 70 not get ripped away from just a fiber optic tow line??

@Av-vd3wk

3 ай бұрын

I think you should have said “supposedly” when stating it as fact that Ukraine shot down the IL 76 SUPPOSEDLY filled with its own POWs.

@Pateramalina

3 ай бұрын

dude you promoting ground news speaking ru conspiracy xD.... There were no POWs on that plane. put some adnotation in description, btw prisoners exchange already happened .

@pat8988

3 ай бұрын

Seems like the F-35 would be SOL if the towed decoy gets destroyed and another missile comes along two seconds later. I mean, how fast can another decoy be deployed???

@johndoh5182

3 ай бұрын

@@Av-vd3wk Assume that it's more than just the fiber optic cable. However, a typical single strand, single mode fiber optic cable which is WAY more than enough for the bandwidth requirements of the data that could possibly move back and forth, there are multiple layers to that cable, one typically being a kevlar layer which adds a lot of strength to the cable. There are many ways they could make a SINGLE cable durable enough to deal with the forces of being towed, and at the same time the cable is lightweight and thin, not using metal so it gives no radar return.

The thing I can't get over is that the disclosed, publicly-available information about the F-35's capabilities is a mind-blowing array of near-scifi levels of advancement. The stuff they're telling us is mind-blowing. I can't begin to imagine the stuff they don't tell us about.

@jessemills3845

3 ай бұрын

Isn't nice that the DEMS are Publishing ALL OUR TECH! JUST LIKE LEAVING MORE TECH in AFGHANISTAN, FOR THE CHINESE! Guess it "PAYS" to "DONATE " to the DNC, and higher DEMS AND RINOS !

@jtjames79

3 ай бұрын

This isn't remotely sci-fi. Barely '90s technology. Styropiro made made a directed energy weapon out of a rust remover, a couple of cheap telescope lenses, and PVC pipe. There's also dozens of tutorials on how to make AI automated turrets. DYI is two generations ahead of what they are showing us.

@tre_techie

3 ай бұрын

Advertising clickbaits, if it is indeed so strong, why need hundreds of them on a carrier when you need only 1 or 2, since it cannot be detected or shot down?

@rickbase833

3 ай бұрын

As the host of this video noted......ALEs have been around for quite a long time. I've worked as a subcontractor on Lockheed Marting on a specific project for the F-35. The combination of low observable tech which includes coating, airframe shape, EM emissions, and IR masking are not anything new. It's the employment of all those ascpects that make the F-35 harder to detect at longer ranges and also difficult to create a weapons grade track which is what a traditional SAM system needs to guide the missile from launch to a point where it can lock an aircraft in terminal guidance. The F-35 also has the latest airborne radar which doubles as a jammer. The advanced avionics also takes a lot of the work needed to do offensive and defensive operations and lightens the workload on the pilot. This platform is more than just a fighter-bomber......it's an ISR and EW platform all rolled into one. Nothing I just said violates any classification lables and is available in the public domain. The actual performance parameters of all the F-35 systems are highly classified though.

@debraoroark49

3 ай бұрын

@@rickbase833whatcha know about RAS?

Didn't know about the towed thingy. Didn't know there's a F-16 in stealth coating. I learned a couple of things today. Thanks Alex.

@bobbertee5945

3 ай бұрын

the F-16 uses them too, Dan Hampton described using them during the Iraq war

@LuvBorderCollies

3 ай бұрын

I heard about a non-connected (no wires) system the F-4s or other a/c could deploy to give the appearance of large numbers of a/c to the NVA radars. Notice I used the word "heard" because you can't believe everything you hear. IIRC that primitive "cruise missile" used on Hanoi could also cause NVA missile battery to light up and fire away. Kind of like "Here I am, pick me, choose me".

@Boomkokogamez

3 ай бұрын

Yeah, There is a USAF program called HAVE GLASS that apply stealth paint on F-16s

@amazin7006

3 ай бұрын

I don't understand the point. F16 can never be low observable. Its like being shot down from 200km vs 180km

@mrow7598

3 ай бұрын

The stealth coating is 'new' as in the last few years it was known publicly.

We've come a long way from the days when my grandpa was deploying the ADM-20 Quail decoy from a B-52. And if he were still with us, he'd probably be tripping out that the B-52H is still in service and going strong.

@bertg.6056

3 ай бұрын

And he would probably approve of the B-52J.

@cressida00

3 ай бұрын

Props 2 your Pops from 🇦🇺 .

@MarcusWolfWanders

3 ай бұрын

I'm a union worker that helps to produce blades that go into the GE J85 engine, which powered the Quail decoy. I enjoy learning about all of the different engines that the castings I work with go into. The amount of things I continue to learn in my blue collar career are mind boggling :)

@VisibilityFoggy

3 ай бұрын

It's truly amazing that, in theory, a pilot today could be flying the same airframe his great-grandfather once flew on similar missions (granted with better munitions in the bays!).

@howardhughes7596

3 ай бұрын

Got buzzed by a B52 while my wife and I were driving our white Bronco down a lonely highway on the northern Arizona plateau in the late 80's. They even waggled the wings at us as they went up. I assume the pilots were laughing their butts off. Truly a life experience. Glad to see that the 52 is still with us.

Alex, the first rule of towed decoys, is that we don’t talk about towed decoys

"Sorta like Bugs Bunny in Drag..." Great line, Marine

@magdovus

3 ай бұрын

I'm thinking there's something Alex hasn't told us there...

@mikeharvey9184

3 ай бұрын

Somewhere, some Marine F-35B ground crew is printing up new decals for these things as we speak...

@johndough1703

3 ай бұрын

@@mikeharvey9184 A Drag-Bugs Bunny would be friggin hilarious as a decal. Trolling the enemy and the weird kids below deck who are gonna transition into monstrous he-shes when they get discharged for sexual assaults.

I always thought it was sort of silly to say the SU-57 was a fith gen aircraft like the F-35. After this video I have come to the conclusion its absolutely rediculous .

@Typexviiib

3 ай бұрын

Ive been saying for a couple years now su57 is 4.5 gen

@CptJistuce

3 ай бұрын

It is OBVIOUSLY fifth-gen. You can tell because it has a five in the name.

@subjectc7505

3 ай бұрын

Russia doesn't care about stealth and it's been years since we last heard anything about the Su-57 which makes sense. It's meant to be harder to detect while using friendly SAM's for coverage. In a since it's still fifth generation with the technology onboard.

@aidanwilliams9452

3 ай бұрын

@@subjectc7505 Hence why they've only been used to lob missiles from over the border, clearly don't trust it's capabilities on the frontline. Also assuming the onboard technology works as advertised, unlike their jamming pods which have the habit of jamming everything, both enemy and friendly radar

@e.s.5529

3 ай бұрын

@@subjectc7505 if you say so pal

One of the few military aviation channels with an actual clue as to what is going on. Well done.

@menwithven8114

3 ай бұрын

It helps that he's actually in contact with high level officials.

"The missile no longer knows where it is, because it no longer knows where it isn't."

Every time I resign to be unimpressed by the f35, I learn something new about it that is most impressive.

@jj4791

3 ай бұрын

If you take the time to understand it's intended role, you would understand exactly why it is impressive. The F-22 is the air superiority fighter. The F-35 is only going to assist in this role. Ala the F-16 was to the F-15 fleet. The F-16s primary role since the raptor and stealth. Has been SEAD. With HARM. And precision munitions strikes with GPS weapons. The F-35 is meant to cruise at medium altitude leaded down with HARM missiles. Fly directly toward enemy SAM radars. (300mi scan range or greater). Duck-down into a mach 1.1-1.2 low level run, until well within HARM range (~50mi). And launch a salvo of HARM missiles. Those missiles and the F-35 memorize the location of the signal, and this information is relayed to all friendlies. Data about enemy missile launched at friendlies is shared. What type, performance specs, any details that matter about enemy weapons is known nearly instantaneously. Recently, F-35s tracked a missile launched over 800mi away. HARM missiles no longer need to track the radar signal, they revert to GPS. They also "home on jam" so electronic countermeasures only act as tracking beacons... Same tech as the new AIM-120-D. And the AIM-9X doesn't need heat to track, as was proven by the F-22 shooting down thatChinese balloon. Balloons have no heat source and stabilize to the ambient air temperature. This means our "heat seeking missiles" actually track camera images along with FLIR. Not just a IR sensor. This is not classified per se. It is intended to be known, as that is why the US releases this information publicly.

@kathrynck

3 ай бұрын

The development process was a bureaucratic nightmare, and the decision to build/develop in 'concurrency' was dumb (as it always has been in past projects that used it). I'd even say the decision to 'overtly' bundle the STOVL model in with the air force & navy versions was somewhat questionable. But the engineers nailed it. F-35 is an absolute beast. The Luddite Mafia has been full of crap for a very, very long time. The last time they made any good sense was in the early 1970's. Anyway, the towed decoys aren't unique to the 35. The meat & potatoes of the design lays elsewhere. But it is a good generational upgrade for the towed decoys. And like everything else on the F-35, it's on 'every' plane... Most planes would need a flatbed truck full of pods to approach the 35's built-in features.

@edrd6257

3 ай бұрын

"Why you can't shoot the F-35 down (even if you lock onto it)" I believe it when it is proven in a major conflict with a peer competitor. Until then, anyone can claim anything.

@protorhinocerator142

3 ай бұрын

@@jj4791 After a few waves of F-35 aircraft wipe out the enemy's radar, AA, comm, and other such capabilities, the enemy will have greatly reduced ability to kill planes. This opens the door for F-15, F-16 and even A-10 aircraft to come in and do more damage. Stealth is expensive and it comes at the additional cost of reduced payload. You can't just have a million missiles hanging from the wings. But once stealth does its jobs and there are no more radar dishes, these older planes become a lot more survivable. Think of the F-35 as a Day 1 weapon, and the F-15 as a Day 3 weapon. Now think of the A-10 as a Day 15 weapon and the B-52 as a Day 21 weapon. This would be true if a war was a static isolated zone. But it's not. So now imagine the F-35 attacking coastal defenses until F-15's can come in. Then the F-35 keeps moving inland. The F-15's restrict their attacks to the coast until it's more clear to fly inland. The F-35 keeps moving inland. The F-15 keeps moving inland behind it. Then the A-10 starts at the coast and begins moving inland behind the F-15. In a dynamic war (pretty much all of them) the F-35 is being sent into the most contested areas. F-15's no longer lead the charge. So in a future conflict, expect F-35, F-22, B-2, B-21, and long-range missiles leading the charge. That's a lot. As those doors open to older planes, the rest start coming in according to survivability.

@MisterPerson-fk1tx

3 ай бұрын

I'm not. It's time for the propaganda machine to start spilling the beans on some of the newer stuff that they're using. I mean good video and all, I'm subbed and still liked it. Edit as a Canadian, if were now getting it, it's old tech. We stopped caring about the airforce after we learned about the Avro Arrow fiasco.

The F35’s little buddy is more advanced than the entire su57 lmao

@oldfashionedwrx3574

3 ай бұрын

Su57 is flaming wreckage vs f35

@Darkpara1

3 ай бұрын

Cool looking jet. But it's not a true 5th gen. India detects them flying around all the time.

@Christian-fg3we

3 ай бұрын

@@Darkpara1india was also a potential buyer but after the su57 was demonstrated and inspected, they backed out because of poor quality and capabilities.

@Sinyao

3 ай бұрын

​@@Christian-fg3weChina came to the same conclusion, and just made the j20 instead.

@Christian-fg3we

3 ай бұрын

@@Sinyao which is still miles behind the F35 or F22

I like how excited Alex gets... He does love his F-35

@konnorj6442

3 ай бұрын

Indeed blind fanjoi wonajy doubt from what I've seen not wasting more time on his drivel though

@randogame4438

3 ай бұрын

@@konnorj6442 Great, begone copenik.

@iamscoutstfu

3 ай бұрын

konnorj6442 What sort of dipshit comment is this? Maybe the internet isnt for you.

@jordostan

3 ай бұрын

​@@konnorj6442did a cat walk across your keyboard?

@liquidpatriot4480

3 ай бұрын

​@@jordostan😂😂😂

Man the F35 is so OP And we have been led to believe this program was a failure. Holy moly. I’d love to see a video that demonstrates all the ways the F35 is just so over the top, adding in the new Block updates. Well done Alex. Thank you.

@TheGeocacheHunter

3 ай бұрын

It's thanks to the media making a conclusion that the F35 loses most dogfights. Yes it loses dogfights, but every military in the world is moving away from that combat style. Kind of like how bows and arrows have been replaced with guns on the battlefield.

@keanenfulton4696

3 ай бұрын

​@@TheGeocacheHunterwhat dogfights?

@Anakin_Sandy_High_Ground

3 ай бұрын

@@TheGeocacheHunter Its the main stream media reposting the same fake RT News article from 2011

@mi6agent813

3 ай бұрын

@@TheGeocacheHunter if the F35 is in a dogfight, so much has gone wrong already.

@darrellmcever340

2 ай бұрын

Russian Trolls abound on the Internet.

Small correction (got some pilot friends in the Armed forces trained on all sorts of SAM and A2A threats) - Chaff tricks missiles by trying to make a bigger radar signal than the aircraft it protects. The counter to that is to have the missile isolate the smaller - yet more consistent radar signal within the target area and hone in on that. Even IR missiles use this same simple 'ai' to try to overcome flares. The F-35's decoy would potentially try to provide a more consistent radar cross-section for a missile in it's final 'seduction mode' while the F-35 uses the active portions of it's radar absorbing skin (think thin printed antennas within the paint - not unlike the antennas printed on a car windshield but far more advanced and actively controlled) to augment the F-35's radar signature to emulate a floating, spinning piece of chaff. It's all speculation, but the race to have countermeasures countered by intelligent radar and IR seeker processing is being 'actively' dealt with on the F-35 vs. just trying to throw junk out the trunk to confuse.

@WillArtie

3 ай бұрын

right - that sounds awesome and logical. I was thinking, but wouldn't seekers know to look for the more consistent, even if much smaller, target? And of course yes that sort of thing is out there, plus now the counters to that behaviour. I also would have thought there would be lots of AI training for the Air Force's own seekers, with stacks of synthetic data generated from hi-def combat sims. Instead of an LLM, maybe a DTM - diverse target model? Man! I would love to do work like that for the military! Some young people are out there living the dream...

@nedkelly9688

3 ай бұрын

Say it is specualation. so how does Australia Nulka work and is fitted to all Arleigh Burke destroyers and new US carriers. is a decoy rocket gives off a radar signature bigger then the ship and confusing the missile. Is successful as USS Mason used it in 2016 and recently Mason and other US ships have been using it in Red sea. So does spinning in the ocean lol.. it give off Chaff and make ship look like it's

@achillesa5894

3 ай бұрын

@@WillArtie it's a crazy arms race for sure. What we might see next is straight up cameras with image recognition AI for the terminal guidance, which would for example get through this decoy's seduction. And then we'll see counters for that too, like blinding the camera with a very bright flashlight or something.

@WillArtie

3 ай бұрын

@achillesa5894 oh I forgot about just visual spectrum lol. or infra. Imagine multi-spectrum analysis with separate trained models and then they cross-check each other and "vote" for a target - so visual, infra and radar. And you're right, it will be a crazy seeker/counter race! I guess knowing what's coming after you would go a long way in deciding the most effective counter, contingent on you having the correct & up to date data on that missiles capabilities. Oh, then you've got the NGAD type 6th gen drone stuff coming. It's going to be all crazy and sci-fi out there when the first real conflicts kick off! Cheers!

@KorbenDalasCZ

3 ай бұрын

The already old missile of the SA-13, 9M37M had anti-interference filters in the guidance system, it worked on the difference in the angular velocities of the target and the flare, it managed to suppress 6 flares per second, the operator turned on the system manually before launching the missile, if the system was not turned on, it was activated automatically after launching the rocket. We tried it during firings, Firing at an IR target in the form of a parachute flare and firing smaller flares into the porter, the rocket ignored the flares and kept a locked target at all times. We even had a random test that was not planned when the IR flare target on the parachute again fell apart before hitting and pieces of burning bait fell out of it. Again the missile ignored everything else and hit the target. This system successfully shot down 2 A-10s in Iraq even though they used flares for protection. This is a system from the 1980s, today's shots will probably be even better at protecting against interference.

Alex you do a great job!!! Keep it up brother!!! As a military aviation enthusiast I really enjoy your videos!

“🦊 1”. I always like hearing that segment from the 89 Gulf of Sidra incident. I have a lot of respect for Wild Weasel pilots as well everyone else that served our country 🇺🇸. It sounds like the F35 is like Clint Eastwood in the battle space, “Go ahead, make my day.”

@alexwalker2582

3 ай бұрын

With the F22 being the Bruce Lee of the battlespace. 😉

"Sort of like Bugs Bunny in drag" Alex, you rock, you know that?

REQUEST: a long-form B1 Lancer expose, including exterior pylons. I've only heard them mentioned once, no pics. Never knew it could house external hardpoints.

@Plaprad

3 ай бұрын

Check around on Google. A lot of pics of them now that they're being used a lot more.

@sana-cm7oc

3 ай бұрын

Never heard this before.

@Plaprad

3 ай бұрын

@@sana-cm7oc Check Google, there are lots of pics of it now. They just didn't use them much before. Used to be stationed at a B-1 base and you'd see them carry external on occasion.

No evidence that there were any POWs on the IL-76. Only 5 bodies found at the crash site. Also, no evidence who shot the missile. It was flying away from Ukraine, to the north, not south, from Belgorod. Prisoners are usually transferred by special vehicles, buses, or train. Flight hours are valuable, with the air fleet in decay. They don't "waste" them on POWs.

@jmjones7897

3 ай бұрын

Ding Ding Ding we have a Wimner

@forresttm

3 ай бұрын

If there were POWs on board they would show the bodies.. haven't seen any at all.

@jmjones7897

3 ай бұрын

​@@forresttmYep. Just more typical Russian bullshit.

@offsetcircle1903

3 ай бұрын

Also I'm pretty sure it had just come back from Iran, so unless they were giving those POWs a sunny holiday...

@craigstoner2632

3 ай бұрын

​@jmjones7897 is that similar to a winner? 😂

That little decoy is smarter than the su57.cheers from Australia.

Wow, I've been following this jet since 1996 and I still learned so much. The F-35 is indeed in a league of its own.

@LuvBorderCollies

3 ай бұрын

I've not been a fan since Day 1. Looking back my disdain was based on the wildly exaggerated promises of all the other models that it'd replace**. That threw up the BS flag immediately when AF brass claimed it'd replace the A10's role in CAS. In recent years I notice CAS is never mentioned by AF brass or anyone connected with the F35 program. Wonder why?? Operating down in the weeds is the most hazardous a/c environment especially in built up areas. The thin skin and scads of whoop de fizz fragile electronics don't last long in thick air filled with lead and shrapnel. But then A-10s took a lot of holes in Iraq so its not impervious either. **research history of the US M14 rifle development to view wonder weapon claims by US Army Ordnance branch. We know all that was a lie.

@Matthew-sp5kv

3 ай бұрын

The F-35 CAN do CAS, it's just not as good as the A-10, still probably good enough, especially considering a lot of the A-10 misions involved JDAMs and Mavericks, not the gun. Realistically though neither is probably the ideal CAS aircraft moving forward. Low-Mid cost drones likely are. Something ~$1-2m with the capability to drop 10-20 60-80mm mortar rounds, maybe slap an M230 autocannon on it if you really want that 30mm. It could even be a multitude of complimentary CAS drones with varying armaments for different situations. You're going to be able to field a lot more of those, and take more risks with them, than a $50-100m manned aircraft.

@Typexviiib

3 ай бұрын

@@LuvBorderCollieslow altitude fixed wing cas is an obsolete doctrine in peer conflict. You can only get away with it in low intensity brush fires. The air force and navy have been using fast movers at high altitude to successfully provide cas since desert storm. The f111, f18, f16, and f15 have all put in thousands of cas sorties.

@aidanwilliams9452

3 ай бұрын

@@LuvBorderCollies Close air support refers to the proximity of friendly troops to the enemy not the aircraft being low. Even A-10's often operate high to avoid any threats like manpads, and that's good so they won't cause any more friendly fire incidents. The only thing the F-35 lacks when compared to the A-10 is loiter time, but then the A-10 is worse in that regard to something like the B-1 which performed incredibly well in CAS missions over the middle east. The A-10 should've been retired long ago, even F-111's did the job better in desert storm. A prop plane could replace the A-10 for low threat environments, but only the F-35 could perform that job in a modern conflict

@jasonkozlow3225

3 ай бұрын

​@@LuvBorderCollies could be worse could be the su 57 it was all hype then India set the facts straight and say d it was junk,so far no nation has said such things about f35.

It's a spicy kite!

Man, Alex! Your pieces have become so clean and well-produced. You’ve always been one of the best sources of aerospace and defense information on YT, but now you’ve created a modern, classy look that really impresses. Press On!

Great content. Very informative, as always.

Yay, more sandbox content

This is great news for our aviators! Such a beautiful aircraft and even more amazing people behind the stick

Hey Alex! 👊😎 Loved it my friend! Absolutely loved it. Keep them coming 🕊️

Great video. Very informative. Thanks for posting it.

I was making a delivery the other day and an F - 35 flew overhead. That thing just sounds like a beast!

@methylmania

3 ай бұрын

Where I live, they fly all day and night. They rumble the entire valley. They are the loudest jet ever fielded by far. If You're anywhere near the base Your teeth chatter in your head. I want the F-16's back.

@markgally731

3 ай бұрын

Go check out Mach Loop. F-35's hitting that valley is nuts over in England.

@edsalinas9996

3 ай бұрын

Yes I have. I watch it every other week.@@markgally731

There is no proof that Ukranian POWs were on that flight, but lots of indications that there were not. About the decoy: how far away from the F-35 is it dragged and how fast can the F-35 fly while dragging it?

@Whiskey11Gaming

3 ай бұрын

About **Classified** knots and **Classified** feet from the F35. Do you really think that information is in the public sphere?

@alexanderSydneyOz

3 ай бұрын

@@Whiskey11Gaming I am surprised its existence is in the public sphere!

@teddeebayre3433

3 ай бұрын

Even if there were, it was a valid military target. With 15 minutes notice, the Russians knew it would be shot down. It was all staged to try to make Ukraine look bad but after knowing the facts. Ukraine did the right thing, although it's a sad ending if POWs were on board.

@Quetzalcoatl_Feathered_Serpent

3 ай бұрын

Likely classified although I would imagine it would be far enough away to insure if a missile did lock and hit the decoy its far enough away to not damage the jet.

@Whiskey11Gaming

3 ай бұрын

@@alexanderSydneyOz Towed decoys have been a known thing for a long time and I can't say it's that unsurprising that the F-35 has it's own special brand. It makes sense... but it's also important to realize how much information IS out there. You should seriously KZread "F-35 DAS and APG-81 radar for the JSF detect multiple rocket launches" and find the video with the same name from Northrup Grumman about 11 years ago (back when the F-35 was still the JSF). It's... crazy... what that system does.

Keep the great work we love your videos

F-35 Air Force technician here. In the past, they experimented with various radar absorbing coatings including lard. The challenge is keeping the lard attached to the frame because it tends to come off in high temperatures... the latest development is using PAM-RAM (joint venture by ConAgra and Raytheon) to easily spray on and absorb any incoming radar.

@Av-vd3wk

3 ай бұрын

Ha.

@evananderson1455

3 ай бұрын

I was under the impression that the coating was part of the skin, as opposed to the spray on technique used on the F22. Does the F35 also use a spray on? Edit: ok, considering your claims of using lard (animal fat) for stealth and your other comments claiming the F22 has a gun that shoots forward and one that shoots backwards..and that a P51 was flown to mach6... Do these posts bring you the attention you want? Genuinely curious.

@howtogaintime739

3 ай бұрын

"PAM-RAM" Lololol

@jtjames79

3 ай бұрын

Single modal missiles should be ancient technology by now anyway. You shouldn't need a radar lock if you have a webcam.

@Steelninja77

3 ай бұрын

Radar absorbant material bro. Dunno what the P stands for but it will absorb that too. .@@howtogaintime739

Goddamn! The f-35 is truly become a friggin beast. Very impressive.

Wow! I finally learned something new about the F-35.

This was a good video, dude. Well done.

Great video as always

We used towed arrays and tethered drones everyday underway when I was driving subs back in the 90s, but I had no idea they used these on aircraft too. Dann I love the US military scientists. It reminds me of learning about sub launched ICBMs we used back then too (C4 & D5 trident). I always thought it was just a fire and forget rocket with a few nukes on it. My mind exploded when I saw all the 5D Chess technology in just some of the components, let alone the whole vehicle. I have never feared a nuclear war since. No other country comes within miles of our tech. It literally brings a tear to my eye seeing all the brilliant beauty in the design, let alone function and capability. Truly works of art designed in the just the 60s to 90s. Now I just love reading and watching videos about it.

Sandboxxxxxxxx. Made my day!

The thing I love about your videos, as you always have concise reports, and I always learn something new. Today was no exception. I had no idea about the F-16s being coded in the same material that the F 35s are using and also I had no idea about the decoy muscles and the information database thing I was wondering if that was even possible but apparently it is. Flying today would almost be like playing a video game that can tell you all kinds of information about the enemy at the touch of a button..

6.10 "Sorta like Bugs Bunny in drag" Thank you Mr Hollings. I haven't burst out laughing like that for quite some time now 😂

LMFAO that Bugs Bunny joke

@JohnGeorgeBauerBuis

3 ай бұрын

I wonder how many times they used that gag.

@RealEngineering covers this in "The Insane Engineering of the F-35" a very informative video .. The F-35 is incredible..

3:41 Oh I love your datamining brother. I paused the video at the start and did a little dive and found ther exact article you referenced that image from. go alex go.

Damn I love this channel!

Thanks for that update on the ALE 70 towed decoy. I was not aware of that, but it does not surprise me as the F 15 has an older variation of it. I was aware of the other avionics systems on board as a force multiplier, like the APG 81 radar, both offensive use and defensive jammer, the DAS system, and the powerful ASQ-139 electronic warfare system. Then you throw in 4 ALE 70s; now that is a powerful defensive multi-layered approach to defense for the F-35. Ya, that is going to be hard to get a lock and hit on that bad boy even with multiple missiles shot at it.

@TheBooban

3 ай бұрын

Seems nothing against visual targeting systems.

@IndigoSeirra

3 ай бұрын

​@@TheBoobanWhich need to be within visual range to even have a chance of targeting the F35, no?

@kameronjones7139

3 ай бұрын

​@@TheBooban kinda hard to use that when you die before you get a chance to see it

@TheBooban

3 ай бұрын

@@IndigoSeirra visual range for a robot is practically unlimited with telescopic sight. But it is straight and not over the horizon. But you can just fire a missile in the general direction until it does spot an enemy aircraft and then locks on.

@TheBooban

3 ай бұрын

@@kameronjones7139 visual targeting _systems_ . Not the pilots visual range.

Why not interceptor modes for missiles on the F35? EDAS tracks an incoming missile, F35 deploys an AIM-9 that puts itself between the ENY missile and the F35, then closes distance and detonates once the incoming missile is within range.

@mill2712

3 ай бұрын

That's actually a good idea. However for stealth fighters, you want to stay as stealthy as possible. When you open up your missile bay doors, a stealth fighter's RCS increases. This makes it easier for enemies to get a lock. This is how a F-117 got shot down.

@Typexviiib

3 ай бұрын

For right now, the biggest hurdle to this being practical is the fact the f35 cant carry aim9x internally.

@aidanwilliams9452

3 ай бұрын

@@Typexviiib F-35's mount their sidewinders on the outer pylons, and in testing they've stated it made a negligible difference to RCS, due to the angling of the rails and both the rails and sidewinders themselves (iirc) being given a coating to reduce signature. That's why they gave up on trying to integrate it internally with lock on after launch, it was no longer necessary.

@cjmunnee3356

3 ай бұрын

​@aidanwilliams9452 Is there any way to provide a source for that? This just piqued my curiosity.

@Typexviiib

3 ай бұрын

@@aidanwilliams9452 this is true. Most of the time it wont really matter for stealth, but it does carry a drag penalty.

Possibly your best episode. Full of information; no clickbait; the straight dope. I’ve just learned to love this jet a little more. In my mental tally of aircraft i might favour if if I ever had to go into combat and was able to choose, she’s creeping up on the F-22, DEFINITELY for ground attack missions. In fact, I’m now a little annoyed that we’re giving away so much cutting-edge tech to so many other nations, who I can’t be sure are quite as snide with their military intelligence as are we, here in the States.

There were no POWs on that plane.

@thorwaldjohanson2526

3 ай бұрын

Was surprised too and looked at the comments immediately. I was like "did actual evidence come out?"

@niklaszeegers1599

3 ай бұрын

I mean the evidence is a stiched up 240p video published by russian officals. So no, there is no evidence.

@LuvBorderCollies

3 ай бұрын

@@thorwaldjohanson2526 All the photos of the crash site AND the loading of the aircraft on the ramp.......no POWs...just a a few guys milling around. No prisoner transport buses ever seen. The list of what is NOT seen to support their lies is FAR bigger than Russia's list of probably evidence. Which is nothing except clumsy lies. In US legal parlay.....the preponderance of the evidence is .... ZERO. Russia's pride makes them stupid and not think before lying out their rectums. Russia has not told a truth in several decades, in fact I'm convinced Putin's govt can not breath without lying.

@briebel2684

3 ай бұрын

If the story relies on what russia said, then you can probably write it off as fake news. It's annoying how many people haven't caught on to this yet.

@LuvBorderCollies

3 ай бұрын

Another thing is the Russians have an established pattern of immediately announced any "victory" PLUS showing the physical evidence,, whether its a Predator drone or Bradley.

The US Air Force used F111's as wild weasels along with F-4 Phantoms during Desert Storm.

im glad a video of this was created. ive always wondered how this decoy worked

Hello Alex, first I want to greet you from Colombia, I am a big fan of yours since the beginning and passionate about military aviation. You are one of few people who have something new to teach me. It would be great if you can explain why the F-35 engine having a higher thrust than other fighters its speed is lower (in clean). I guess its weight and aerodynamics are the answer but I would like to know from the technical aspects and what other things I am missing. Thanks in advance! Rafa

“Sorta like Bugs Bunny in drag.” 😂 ah yes, my childhood memories get that one.

You vastly underestimate how much I have modified my Nerf blaster.

Great info thanks 🙂

💪🏆🙏🤗 Thank you for sharing

It's super interesting that this could be the primary decoy/defense mechanism. I'd expect that all future high end missiles will use combined seekers that combine radar with IR though, which will make the decoy job yet harder. When enough sensors work together and the target identification becomes elaborate enough, it may become impossible to bait missiles with decoys within the next 20 years or so... but most weapons in service aren't that modern and won't be any time soon.

@S300V

3 ай бұрын

The missiles arent that dumb already. Especially as missiles are not homing in on their own to get fooled as he suggests but also constantly get updates on target position and its reflective propeties that are than fed to the missile. Many SAMs use multiple radars using different frequencies too so as to compare the target in said frequencies. Here the F35 is shown to be a very complex system that can work in a network with others, but the fact that SAMs work in similar if not more advanced networks is nicely overlooked. Decoys have been around and havent been an almighty savior to aircraft, better than chaff but chaff is ww2 tech. Btw ships too use towed decoys against torpedoes... you know what torpedoes do? They make an S turn and target the thing rotating in front of it.

@PeterMuskrat6968

3 ай бұрын

@@S300V F-35 can literally jam a dozen Radars at once. So unless you have 20 S-300 sites all located within a hundred miles of each other chances are they are all. getting degraded with jamming.

@mastermariner490

3 ай бұрын

@@S300VIts not only jamming,its spoofing as well,so the radars thinks the F35 is there,while its not,same goes for radar guided missile.

@S300V

3 ай бұрын

@@PeterMuskrat6968 1. 1767 element AESA apg81 on F35 vs 10000 element 30n6e2 FC radar of S300 and a 3400 element AESA Gamma DE search radar. Hmm. Probably they can do nothing🤣 (like lobe baiting, nulling jamming through 0 gain beams, side lobe cancelling). Btw if there is a Nebo svu Vhf radar, it cant even jam it because apg 81 is x-band. 20 🤣

@S300V

3 ай бұрын

@@mastermariner490 First of all: its called ECM! "Jamming" is an old method of ECM used since the 50s that blind radars. What you talk about is also not new. Problem is modern phased array radars have very little side lobes and can even use methods to make those secure through frequency hoping, frequency coding.

Okay, had a silly thought - What if this was the world of Star Trek or Star Wars? Imagine this channel then with Alex telling us about the tech. 😢 I want it. 🤣😉🎉

@josephmastroianni1560

3 ай бұрын

You won't be going to space anytime soon: Would you trust people on a craft?🔻 Hints: Never sharing how we began. One man called us an enemy 2.24.17. Lexington1775. It's kinda useless without The FakeNewZ&fake Indians. Wait3yr they throw tea over taxes for me 17&73. We learned in school!

Just WOW

Great article

I wonder how good Ground News really is if you're still going with the POW story.

@conroc01

3 ай бұрын

The POW story is run of the mill Orc disinformation.

@naitnait00

3 ай бұрын

Ground News mostly collects articles from news agencies. Shouldn't treat it as anymore than that.

@LeonardTavast

3 ай бұрын

Yeah. The POW story is Russian disinfo and doesn't have any evidence.

@evananderson1455

3 ай бұрын

Right? I prefer my "news" sources to regurgitate conspiracy theories that validate my preexisting opinions. Big derp.

@dx-ek4vr

3 ай бұрын

Ground News is basically a News Aggregate that separates the various news sites by whatever political biases it has, which can be useful for identifying whatever political biases you have, but it definitely has limits. It unfortunately can't tell the news itself, so when all the news sources report the same exact incorrect information (like the aforementioned POW story), the only thing Ground News will be able to tell you is if the Headline is coming from a Left wing, Right wing, or even centrist news source.

I was about to send some photos of the ALE-70 door close up on the F-35A on Twitter. Someone that makes more money than me said… don’t do that. I said. Ok. I won’t.

Good info Alex. Thanks. Aren't there also standoff aircraft like the F-15 EX that haul the missile payloads to be used against the ground targets instead of the F-35 opening bays and becoming much more visible momentarily and depleting the small # of weapons they already can carry? These coatings and towed arrays can allow those aircraft to standoff at a closer range with a lesser time to hit those targets the F-35 paints for them. Take more chances at farther ranges and sacrifice towed little buddies if needed?

Have any of your contacts provide any info how well the drones work in actuality?

When you factor in DFT and the F-35’s powerful computers (Digital Fourier Transform), the capabilities of the decoy are pretty much limited only by its broadcast power.

You had me at seduction, Robert Greene should add the F35 as a modern example.

It can project the return of a tanker. That could be useful.

Thanks for confirming a suspicion I had about the F-35 and the Wild Weasel mission. The fit is wonderful. Way back in about 1975 or so at a booth in a hanger at a Society of Old Crows convention I had the pleasure of making acquaintance with a Wild Weasel pilot and his plane. I do not think I have ever met another person as wired as this gentleman. He could not stand still. He chain smoked cigarettes lighting one from the half finished stub of what he had been smoking. He paced around like a caged animal. "How do you know the enemy has locked on?" "The rear seat screams, 'We're gonna die!'" When it came to be an acceptable time for him to leave he got pushed back, fired up, and rocketed up into the sky on full afterburners. That was the second best thing at that show. The best was all the jammer operators around tasting our ECCM signal and admitting they could not touch it with what they had. (Hedy Lamar radio - fast frequency hopper.) Later I met a rear seater for WW missions. He was as laid back as that pilot was wired. And now a whole new generation will be taking on the mission with unprecedented safety levels and accuracy levels. Time moves on, doesn't it? {^_^}

What it takes to shoot down an F-35: being an F-22

@RavenRunFoxRoam

3 ай бұрын

Likely not going to win against an F35.

@oldfashionedwrx3574

3 ай бұрын

Hmm the f35 is dangerous too

@aidanwilliams9452

3 ай бұрын

F-22 only has a kinetic advantage from its speed and altitude, all else (at least from known information) is equal or better with the F-35. There's a reason the F-22 is getting life-extension upgrades so that it can actually remain competitive.

@RavenRunFoxRoam

3 ай бұрын

@aidanwilliams9452 the electronics suite isn't even close and the F35 is basically a full generation ahead in terms of the electronic active array radar and distributed aperture system. Both of which the F22 lack.

@kieragard

3 ай бұрын

Being faster isn't good enough when the 35 can attack way before the 22 can ever get close enough to respond.

The Russian transport was NOT carrying 65 Ukrainian POWs, that has already been debunked.

Thanks!

Gotta love that built-in ingenuity of the F-35!

I've tried to shoot it down many times, but the peas just keep bouncing off the poster.

With regards to SEAD missions, I don't think F35s can carry the AGM-88 HARM internally. It's better that the F35 act as a sensory quarterback, then direct other non-stealth aircraft via the secure data link to fire their HARM missiles instead of risking the more expensive F35 platform.

@AutomaticJack

3 ай бұрын

That's one of the reasons that there is such a push behind the SiAW. The HARM, even with upgrades, is getting a bit long in the tooth and it doesn't fit inside the F-35. The SiAW will.

@hertzwave8001

3 ай бұрын

it should be able to carry the AARGM-ER internally

@dexterplameras3249

3 ай бұрын

@hertzwave8001 Cool, I stand corrected. There is an article on Northrop Grumman's website which states that all variants of the F35 can carry the AARGM-ER, and there is another article that there will be a new version of this missile that can be carried internally on the seapower magazine website.

@kameronjones7139

3 ай бұрын

​@@AutomaticJackthat isn't true the newest g model does fit inside the f35. It was specifically designed to do so and the siaw is going to be based off this missile

@rogerbiggerstaff3293

3 ай бұрын

The F-35 can fire AARGM-ER from well outside the MEZ (or detection/tracking ranges.)

Money well spent! Thanks Alex. I had some residual doubt about the F35 program, before watching this.

Bruh, this aircraft is amazing

CIA handler: Say the activation words Alex: "Buggs Bunny in drag..."

I am rather curious if the towed decoy limits the aircraft in anyway. What would be the maximum G's allowed, can the plane do any maneuvers?

@mage3690

3 ай бұрын

The G-limit would mostly be in the cable, unless I'm much mistaken. It would definitely limit the aircraft in terms of high-G maneuvers, but I'd bet it's mostly from a physical standpoint -- extra weight and drag will always affect your airframe's capabilities. What I would do (because it's the simplest solution) is to simply include a weighted knife to cut the cable that attaches the decoy to the aircraft if the aircraft starts pulling a lot of Gs. Say 3 Gs as a breakpoint for the string holding the knife up (as a wild guess), and when that string breaks, so does your cable. I would be interested in the actual G-limit, though. Just out of idle curiosity, if nothing else. My guess is somewhere between 2-5, but that's obviously quite a large range for a guess.

@Typexviiib

3 ай бұрын

@@mage3690i think this is probably pretty accurate

great video on lesser known topic

Love the video as always can we back up a min and do one on the stealth coated f16 please?

Uh oh got the russian bots on here now…..you have arrived Alex 😂

Waiting for the random russian bot to come in "DA S400 is DA BEST IN DA WORLD IT CAN KILL 30 F35's with 1 Missile, DA, I GO TO DRINK POTATO JUICE DA"!!!

That is a really good example of why Ground News is worth checking out

my respect for this aircraft keep on growing. amazing! hope we wil never have to use them though

They recovered 7 bodies from that plane bro and Russia handed over 200 POW's today. there were none aboard. Russian lies. So ground news did you wrong.

@user-tm9qs7jo9j

24 күн бұрын

Yeah, when he read the title I was like "so right leaning outlets took Russian claims at face value?"

@tommcclelland119

22 күн бұрын

Amazing how “reliable sources” are oftentimes not so reliable. But hey, when they pay money you must toe the line.

Such wisdom

Wonder if an F15EX or AWACS utilize the system as well.. for at least the missile deterrent if not the jamming

Anyone seen those 65 bodies yet??????

@n3v3rforgott3n9

3 ай бұрын

So weird how whenever Russia claims something they never have any proof to back it up... hmm I wonder why.

@BorKagan777

3 ай бұрын

Russian still working on it....

One thing I love about Alex is the informed videos that delve deeper than the Russian and Chinese fan boy videos. Those channels make claims based on either nothing at all or official communist state run media claims. I can only roll my eyes when I see the echo chamber laud the SU57, 35 or J20 as superior to the F35 or 22. There is going to be some serious cope and grinding of teeth when the NGAD goes into production. One request Alex; Would you do a video on using the F15EX or even the B21 as a missile truck for F35s in hostile airspace?

@robertcuellar4132

3 ай бұрын

Dude a jammer on a stealth plane that mean it can't survive

@robertcuellar4132

3 ай бұрын

What u mean the su35 and su 30 that u refuse to go against what was the last air craft shot down by the American air force oh ya a Syrian su 22. Against a super hornet with asa radar and using a aim 9x real brave

@RavenRunFoxRoam

3 ай бұрын

@@robertcuellar4132 your pilots get roughly half the training of US pilots and they're being shot down at a rate over Ukraine that Russia is forced to put old retired flight training officers on the front line. Nobody is refusing to go against anything. If you can't recognize two pieces of objective fact that A: US pilots are amongst the best in the world and B: US fighter jets are the best in the world, you are delusional or uninformed. It's been 35 years since the F22 was developed and still, nobody else has made a fighter that even comes close. The SU57 is literally 1000s of times larger on radar. I find it ironic that you said Americans fighters refuse to go against old 4th gen fighters when those same fighters fled the skies over Iraq to other countries rather than face the certainty of being shot down. I don't blame them. Be sure to come back here and comment more when the US unveils the NGAD 6th gen fighter this year. ;)

@robertcuellar4132

3 ай бұрын

Everything u just said has no facts u have no idea how Russians train in the air that information does not exist that's western propaganda. Second your for profit corporate defense industry media who just wants to sell u mediocre equipment for 5 time's the Price lies all the time especially when it comes to wars. Your performance against poor nations is your only record in war u have not fought a real fight against pear adversary's or 4 gen fighters at that fact and what war u fought that makes u think your equipment is best Iraq Libya Serbia Afghanistan grenade who tell me which fight is like the one in Ukraine never been in a real fight your air force is untested

@robertcuellar4132

3 ай бұрын

@@RavenRunFoxRoam and another thing I never seen all theses Russian fighter planes shot out of the sky I here the claims but no evidence just trying to save face on your western junk

6:08 - 'sorta like bugs bunny in drag'. love me some sandboxx

It’s an incredible machine

Now, give the F 35 one of those laser decoy thingamajigies the Navy got a patent for back in 2017 or so. You know, the one they say they don't have, yet. 😊

@dianapennepacker6854

3 ай бұрын

GIVE them point defense turrets from the Expanse damn it! Turret stays hidden. Missle locks. F 35 picks it up. Pilot turns belly into missile if need be. Turret opens up from the bay. Shoots down missile with 25mm cannons. Retracts.

The air force should never tell anyone about any of this information because over time it helps other countries have counter measures or reverse engineer our stuff 🙄

@rick7424

3 ай бұрын

They know what they are doing. You don't.

@user-ul4wy2lx2m

3 ай бұрын

@@rick7424 obviously not because china’s budget on military development is less than ours, because they reverse engineer everything I have a lot of friends that work for the federal government especially in weapons, and I always ask them questions and they realize that it’s been a long term problem . I’ve actually talked to people that work for DARPA and they’ve been complaining about this as well.

@rick7424

3 ай бұрын

​@@user-ul4wy2lx2m"ours" Nice try Dmitry.

That's pretty dope !

I learned so much from this video. Well done as always. However, doesn’t the F-35A -at least have the ARM-210 chaff system?

Hey I'm the first non troll comment! Cool.

why dont jet fighters/bombers have backward firing missiles?

@dougwallis5078

3 ай бұрын

Right?

@mikethompson2650

3 ай бұрын

The Russians actually experimented with that around a decade ago. Nothing came out of the work at least from what I heard.

@thedeadmoneyallstars

3 ай бұрын

Um...

@dx-ek4vr

3 ай бұрын

They sorta, I suppose. An ability that the pilot's helmet on the F-35 has is that they could just look at the enemy to lock onto it. They don't need to point the aircraft at the enemy to do it

@skyrask1948

3 ай бұрын

Because missile that can reach mach 3.6 if fired in direction of flight from jet flying mach one will reach only mach 1.6 if fired in opposite direction from same jet bleeding all energy and becoming useless in 10 km and if you have bandit behind you that is only 10 km away and it has a missile you are already shot down you just don't know it yet.

@sandboxx There was some news recently that DARPA's LongShot system has entered flight testing. This might be worth a story/video, in context of both direct deployment from a fighter, and as part of a Rapid Dragon cluster deployment with multiple kinds of UAVs and missiles.

I am absolutely amazed that you are able to present this to the world, must be really nice to tell the our enemies our secrets!

That transfer plane also carried 2 Joe Bidens, 3 Vladimir Putins, 100 Himars, and 5 patriot air defense systems!

@ladeedaa

3 ай бұрын

Typical Russian transit

No aircraft no matter how advanced is invincible, take the F117 nighthawk which was shut down over the skies of Yugoslavia, by 1960s Soviet anti air tech, so take a page from history, the F35 is no exception and it too can be shot down.

@Typexviiib

3 ай бұрын

This is true, and all it cost them was “Yugoslavia”. Cope harder

@sbg911

3 ай бұрын

I agree anything can be shotdown, but seriously do some reading if you are trying to use the F117 incident as proof, not just use the headline. The context of the shootdown shows a number of factors that severely negated its stealth advantage and even then its agreed sheer luck played a huge part. The F117 flew 1900 sorties in 1991 without a single missile being fired at it. And stealth has evolved a long way since then, there is little commonality in stealth concepts between the F117 and the F22/F35. Your basic premise is correct, but "the F117 got shotdown" claim has as much weight these days as Pierre Sprey's opinions.

@Typexviiib

3 ай бұрын

@@sbg911 to add to your excellent post, the serbs had multiple hunter killer teams actively trying to shoot down stealth aircraft specifically over the air war and only managed to down one. Also, the f117 had no ew, no radar, no counter measures, and no rwr. From an avionics standpoint it was closer to an early 1950s jet than 1970s era jets and all modern stealth fighters have corrected that deficiency. Im sure youre aware of this, im just piggybacking on your debunking.

@sbg911

3 ай бұрын

@@Typexviiib thanks, and to add to yours, this particular F117 had been flying a repetitive flightplan for some time, so the Yugo's knew around where it would be coming from, and was only spotted this time due to a search scan catching its increased RCS when it opened its bomb bay doors for the few seconds it needed. Like I said, luck also played a part. Personally I think its success saw the USAF get a bit "lazy" in its op planning by 1999. By then it had been flying almost directly past radars with impunity, so why bother avoiding them... taking nothing for granted was probably a lesson they needed to re-learn.

@Typexviiib

3 ай бұрын

@@sbg911 ya, completely agree. Luckily we were reminded that complacency kills with the relatively cheap and nearly obsolete f117 and not our super expensive b2s. A lot of people just dont understand stealth. They think that if it doesnt make you completely invisible at all ranges its a gimmick. This is a pretty silly attitude to have when every modern army uses camouflage on all of their equipment that’s really only effective at long ranges and with stationary things. Its still a major advantage. You are never better off being more visible to the enemy, and all non stealth aircraft today are as out of place as a british red coat uniform in ww2.