Thing is Leia was always more like Anakin while Luke had more of Padme, i think it was always going to be Luke to change the galaxy no matter what Obi-Wan or Yoda wanted. The ability to see the good in somebody is how episode 6 ended how it did, and Leia wouldn't have had any sort of sympathy for vader after he blew up what was essentially her home world.

@themollyjay7974

2 жыл бұрын

This. God, this. Luke is Padme's child. Sure, he's passionate, emotional and sometimes takes crazy risks, but he's also someone who can sit back and calmly assess and negotiate. Leia is Anakin's child. If Yoda and Ben had trained Leia, she would have made Anakin look calm and obedient by comparison.

@PsychedelicRug

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed. Now complete your training

@unfittedwings

2 жыл бұрын

She probably would’ve fallen like Anakin did

@dyslectische

2 жыл бұрын

If you see Lia child in Obi show. You see more padme than Anakin.

@darkwolfe6286

2 жыл бұрын

@@dyslectische I'm going to have to disagree there was much more emotion impulse and pushback against authority in Leia which were akin to Anakin or course she is a very young child and showed some growth by the end of Season 1 of Kenobi In the brief times we saw Luke I did not see those characteristics but then of course the really did not focus on Luke at all 🤔

The key trait Luke had that led to Palpatine’s demise was the ability to believe Vader was redeemable. I don’t think Leia had that. Naivety and forming attachments too easily were virtues this time.

Leia was more likely to fall to the dark side. She struggled for decades to understand the redemption of Anakin let alone fight for it or be willing to die for it. If not for Luke’s love for his father and faith in his light, Vader would never have been redeemed and the Emperor would have succeeded at Endor.

Luke was by far the safer choice to be trained amongst the Skywalker twins,as Luke only survived because Anakin reawakened within Vader and this happened directly because of the attachment that Luke tried to facilitate with Vader,had Leia of gotten to that point it's entirely likely she'd of either given completely into her hatred of the empire and fell,or if things played exactly the same way Anakin would not of saved Leia as there was no connection there

I honestly see more of Anakin in Leia and when she face vader she'll be fighting him with hatred absolute hatred since Vader destroyed her planet her people her family while I see more of padme in Luke he's more forgiving and at the end of it all he saved his father I personally believe Luke was the great option

@kallanpowell4781

2 жыл бұрын

I agree this would’ve been another mistake by Yoda and the remnants of the Jedi Council. The more I learn about Yoda the more I hate him and his actions as well as the rest of the Jedi Council.

@luvmenow33

2 жыл бұрын

I think Luke being a young boy from a nameless planet with little to no serious understanding of whats going on in the world aside from knowing the Empire is Bad makes him the logical choice

@zippo5294

2 жыл бұрын

True

@Caleb-kf9wp

2 жыл бұрын

Leia wouldn't have been able to bring Anakin back, she would've gone straight for the kill, and just end up losing to the emperor

@Star_Wars_With_PercyMan

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed!

Leia with a blaster and a lightsaber is a good look. But yeah, Leia would have fallen to the dark side for sure. She does not mess around, she would have killed Vader without a second thought.

@daneelderozan263

2 жыл бұрын

That would have been great

The traits that Yoda admired are exactly the traits that led the Jedi to fall. It wasn't the fact that Anakin had attachments, it was that he was made to feel shame about them. Palpatine preyed upon those feelings and that's why Anakin fell to the darkside, I think Leia would have fallen as well. She would have been too angry and Palpatine would take advantage of it, he would probably tell her that Anakin killed her real mother in conjunction with him torturing her for the death star plans and blowing up her homeworld, that's a pit of despair

@129das

2 жыл бұрын

The Jedi order were the same people that would abduct children without issue.

@brendonw456

Жыл бұрын

I would heavily disagree about it being that he was "made to feel shame" about his feelings. They objectively are a big emotional weakness. There's no disputing that. And the threat of losing those attachments can drive a person to do all manner of unpredictable things. Which is what happened with Anakin. He fell because he was terrified of losing his loved one. It isn't any deeper than that. He got desperate for any way to prevent it. Palpatine didn't prey on his "shame", he preyed on his fear by telling him that he could prevent the thing he was SCARED of happening. Idk where some of you guys come up with this crap...were you busy texting while watching the movie or something?

@brendonw456

Жыл бұрын

​@@129das That is such a lie that I see too often. The Jedi did not "abduct" children. They would meet the child, verify they were Force sensitive, and then ask the parent if they could take them. If the parent refused, the Jedi would keep eyes on them, but they didn't just take the kid. Ffs, The Phantom Menace even shows how this happened with Anakin. Qui Gon Jinn didn't just pick up Anakin and go. He talked with his MOTHER first. I know Qui Gon Jinn has a tendency to go against the Jedi Order, but he was acting entirely according to protocol in dealing with taking Anakin (apart from his trick with the die...which itself was horribly stacked against him).

@TrueGraveHeart

Жыл бұрын

@Brendon W Saw the movie crystal clear and I agree Palpatine preyed on Anakin's fear of losing Padme' but that does nothing to the comment of Anakin's shame of breaking the dogma of the Jedi by not only forming an attachment but then secretly marrying Padme. Where he had to hide the marriage but also his role as her unborn children's father, that's the shame I'm referring to. I believe that if he was able to openly love Padme, his fall could have been prevented because he would have been able to confide in his Jedi brethen. So in part his shame and desperation to hold on to Padme is what led him to fear losing her and that's why Palpatine was able to prey on him so easily. I also believe that it was Palpatine feeding visions of Padme's death to Anakin because he was desperate to hold onto her after losing his mother and that it would drive Anakin to him and the darkside

The more I hear about Yoda's opinions the more you realise he was part of the problem. Luke represents the best of the Jedi, using love and doing what is right because it is right, rather than being an emotionless drone that writes people off without a second thought.

I personally think Luke was the better choice, its not about having strong emotions or anger bursts its about controlling them, his entire life Anakin was told if he let loose he was going to fall ans there was no coming back, in a way he felt it for over 20 years, until his son defeated him. Only then he knew there was hope, there was redemption, there was a choice. And then Anakin was redeemed

@hekkrjs2698

2 жыл бұрын

*in Darth Maul’s voice*: I agree!

@lewisgordon4288

2 жыл бұрын

No it was luke showing mercy to Vader and not giving in to the dark side thst redeemed anakin

@jmd1743

2 жыл бұрын

Anakin probably wasn't evil but he was victim of the fallacy of Cost Sunk. He likely felt that he couldn't walk back for what he did. Had Qui-Gon reached out to him to tell him that he can walk back from the wrong doings he would be forgiven, especially if he worked with others to take down the emperor who corrupted him. The problem is that we can't rewrite the original trilogy that had Anakin train Luke. The problem with Leia being trained is that she would have been clouded with the failure of the old jedi order. Even if she managed to kill the emperor & restore the Jedi order the Jedi order would fall apart because it's foundations are rotten. Luke rebuilt the house of the light side on new solid foundations where they had to start from scratch, where the old Jedi order was trapped by thousands of years of dogma. If luke could have gone back in time he probably would have urged Anakin to buy out his mother from slavery by doing side work or use his influence to get a patron to buy his mother out from slavery.Anakin was loved by the Galaxy so it wouldn't take much do the Star wars equivlant of GoFundMe. In fact he would probably raise enough money to also buy his mother a simple condo to retire to. Maybe Palpatine would have been defeated thanks to Luke, but we would see Luke's father be corrupted by his anger toward the Republic allowing slavery to continue on.

Yoda said, "There is another." This was IF Luke failed and was killed or turned. He didn't.

Received some comments that the original upload of this video had no sound, there was however sound on my end, are you guys now able to hear the video? Thanks.

@kingshadow8782

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks

@evsanger

2 жыл бұрын

video audio is normal, it uploaded in 360p tho

@djnavarro3212

2 жыл бұрын

Well I didn’t see the first video so

@tigerlord9302

2 жыл бұрын

I got a “no stream, tap to retry”. Also KZread keeps automatically removing comments evidently.

@foxaroundfindout

2 жыл бұрын

Able to see it now, but 360p Gang~

I think that Yoda’s judgement is highly suspicious at this point. I’ve always felt that he is largely responsible for EVERYTHING that happened at the end of the republic. The hidden resurgence of the sith, the clone wars, Anakins fall to the dark side Dooku’s fall to the dark side. And, he started to repeat( along with Obiwan) the same mistakes with Luke. I think he was more the stubborn old “ get off my lawn” guy of the Jedi order, who refused to learn from the mistakes the order was making. It was largely Yoda’s leadership that allowed Palps to seduce Anakin. He saw Dooku lose faith and leave, Qui Gon’s disillusionment, and a ton of other problems with the order, and just continued with business as usual. He couldn’t feel a Sith Lord in the same room with him. I’m pretty much done with his amazing wisdom.

@brandonwright1377

2 жыл бұрын

I agree with most of this, but not being able to sense Palptine is something non one could do, his ability to hide his force signature is beyond compare

@richarddoig1865

2 жыл бұрын

@@brandonwright1377 for an “average” Jedi, I may agree, but the oldest, wisest most knowledgeable Jedi, with 800 years of training, who spent considerable time in the same room as Palps, I do not agree. Unlimited power should have been at least making him uneasy. Even if he could mask his power so completely, Maul couldn’t. And Plagious was floating around for a long time on Yoda’s watch too, yet nobody believed it possible that Sith were back because they had become so out of touch.

@brandonwright1377

2 жыл бұрын

@@richarddoig1865 Yoda did sense a void in the force but he couldn't sense Palpatine because he had the ability to pull his power inside him and cut himself off from the force completely shielding himself to force sensitive. Pretty sure he was even able to hide from Plaugus as well in one of the novels. It's more a testament to Sideous abilities than lack of Yodas or anyone's, Anakin only knew because Palps was grooming him.

@yeetdiscreet1278

2 жыл бұрын

I agree with most of that. At bare minimum, he was the main catalyst for Anakin turning to the Darkside. Anakin wouldn’t have even been really all that interested in it if Yoda hadn’t planted that “if you fall in love with someone, you’re a bad person“ bullshit in his head. That was basically what started it from what I could see. He eventually made up for it… Sort of… By training Luke in his ways, but he will always be regarded in my eyes as one of the main reasons the Jedi order fell. So much of what happened to lead Anakin astray could have been very easily prevented.

A lot of Leia's traits which are praised here are ones that she developed due to how she was raised. It would have been much better if Luke was raised by a family in a similar situation to Leia's. It is really a case of Nature Vs Nurture. As twins, there should have roughly had the same Nature so it was the Nurturing that created the differences in them. So Luke's problems could be explained by the poor choices of Yoda and Kenobi, Leia was raised as the loved daughter to be a leader and fighter; Luke was raised by an Aunt and Uncle who might have loved him but also seemed to see it as a chore and raised him to be a farmer with the farm being his whole world.

@limitlesssky3050

2 жыл бұрын

Luke and Leia are non identical twins, they don't have identical traits or potential or character.

@AngryOlliver

2 жыл бұрын

Luke’s youth was much more humble. Day to day life was a struggle for a farmer boy in an unforgiving environment. I think that humble life helped shape Luke. It almost gave him the naivety he needed to see the good in Vader. Leia on the other hand, saw the machinations of the empire. She practically grew up in war. I think she would have been much more jaded having seen how rotten the system is and how horrific the Empire is. She would likely fallen to the darkside in my opinion.

@lotusinn3

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly. Which is also exactly why Anakin shouldn’t have been trained.

@randykincy7954

2 жыл бұрын

Anakin didn’t fall to the dark side because he gave in to anger….he fell at the moment he lost hope. That moment where he decided that his only choice to save Padme was to save Sideous wasn’t any fit of rage, it was desperation. His first words after were, “what have I done?” The difference in Luke and Anakin was that even when the emperor was literally frying him, Luke never gave up on his father. When Anakin was faced with a similar circumstance he relinquished all hope immediately. Yoda, Obi Wan, Windu, even Palpatine never understood that it wasn’t about anger. Actually Palpatine might have understood that,…in the comics he made sure to provoke Vader every time his old feelings surfaced….tried to keep him blinded by rage

@krzosu

2 жыл бұрын

@@randykincy7954 He gave to anger on tatooine when he slaughtered the sand people in pure revenge - that was one of the biggest stones to his fall turning right there that was the crack that opened the door to everything elese. Not to mention the very grooming of him for the role done very subtly by Palpatine - planting Ideas - nudging in certain directions , augmenting his rebellious nature or seving deliberate mistrust between him and Padme (The Klovis banker story line) or jedi council (a good example was when he mocked anakin that Jedi didnt trust him to tell him about the plot to "kill Obivan - and then using him to go udercover after Meralo Eval and Kad Bane when they tried to "kidnap" the Palpatine".Basically every chance he had he was grooming him to make sure that once time came he would turn.

Also I feel like a downside of the yoda's jedi order was how intrinsically liked they were with the senate and politics. The same could have been said with a Leia as a jedi/general far too closely aligned with political machinations

Ah yes, yoda would much rather train Leia considering he instructed Luke to abandon her to the empire

I wouldn't take Yoda's advice on this one, he already led the Jedi down the wrong path. Leia was to engage in rebels to make a good Jedi. Luke had a normal childhood and was more normal, thus more likely to not fall to the dark side. His upbringing was more stable and family-oriented.

@sharrybaythompson1935

2 жыл бұрын

not really because for someone to become a Jedi, they have to be separated from their family to escape attachments. Their upbringing has to be being raised in the Jedi Temple, not from a normal family

@KabirSinghz

2 жыл бұрын

@@sharrybaythompson1935 true but look how that turned out with anakin becoming vader

@sharrybaythompson1935

2 жыл бұрын

@@KabirSinghz he turned into Vader because he was attached to his mom and his wife which proves my point. The original comment mentions "family-oriented" which is the very same reason Anakin fell to the dark side. Yoda and the rest of the Jedi council didn't want to take in Anakin when he was a child because he was too old and attached to his mom. The only reason why they let him in was because Qui Gon vouched for him being "the chosen one". If Anakin didn't have attachment issues or was "family-oriented" he would't have to turned to the dark side

@KabirSinghz

2 жыл бұрын

@@sharrybaythompson1935 I'm agreeing with you but I think your also missing my point which is if the jedi were allowed to have some form of attachment then they won't necessarily fall to the dark side in the first place hence my example of anakin becoming vader and the jedi order of the old could have been saved if they didn't have these rules in place

@sharrybaythompson1935

2 жыл бұрын

@@KabirSinghz lol bro..you're contradicting yourself. You can't agree with me but then say if they allowed attachments then they wouldnt fall to the dark side. Anakin is the perfect example of someone falling to the dark side because of attachments. Having attachments make u vulnerable. Think about it, if u were a Jedi and a bunch of bounty hunters held your girlfriend hostage or tortured her, you would become out of character because you would go through a crazy amount of destruction to save her. Those are dark side tendencies...the ability to become illogical to save someone you love. But if you never had a gf in the first place, then you wouldn't be in that predicament. If Anakin wasnt in love with Padme, he would have never tried to save Palpatine.

I think Luke and Leia being jedi would have complemented each other and countered each others weaknesses.

I'm sorry had Yoda not realized that entanglement with politics boned the Jedi in the first place?

Who wudn't pick Leia, she was able to out run grown men as a 10 year old and was the most qualified mechanic in a whole rebel camp. Luke knocked himself out just trying to run from a wounded woman :)

@someguyontheinternet2170

2 жыл бұрын

L

@themutualfriend5286

2 жыл бұрын

😂😂😂

@CHAMPDOGZ

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah but she has signs of Alzheimer's because she clearly forgot who Obi one was

@someguyontheinternet2170

2 жыл бұрын

@@CHAMPDOGZ yes ikr

@kitfisto1827

2 жыл бұрын

rimshot

Always when I watch the prequel triology, I can't help but think: 'if they only treated Anakin with the respect and trust he deserved, Vader would have never been'.

@creativewriter3887

2 жыл бұрын

EXACTLY. And I think MOST of that had to do with Mace Windu being so antagonistic and downright jealous of Anakin. He always came off with such attitude and having a chip on his shoulder. In one of the videos here on YT, it was purported that Mace thought he was the one to bring balance to the Force since he did master the Dark side for use in the light side and how he and only two other Jedi could do this. (which is why his saber was purple.. the amalgamation of both the red of the dark and blue of the light). Along comes this nobody child from Tatooine whom Qui-gon Jin had put so much faith in (rather than in Mace or the Council) and bam.. you can see that Mace was jealous of a kid. Had the council as a whole acknowledged Anakin's true potential and his already certifiable accomplishments during the Clone War, they could have perhaps gradually moved Anakin into a role within the Council. If he could bring balance, they might have spilt the dark veil over the Council and could see they were being played. But who knows? The Dark Side had already taken over the Senate and the Jedi Council and Palpatine was already five steps ahead of the Council. Yet again, I can't help but wonder if Mace had been more on Anakin's side, Anakin would have not felt Palpatine was Padme's only hope of surviving. Even Padme wanted to disclose everything to Padme. but couldn't do so until Anakin had gone totally Darth Vader.

@cecily3797

2 жыл бұрын

But still Anakin would've had to fulfill the prophecy of bringing balance to the force, and that meant an inevitable purge of the jedi council, maybe something like a civil war

You killed it wit this content brotha keep it up

I believe the Force always guides those that are willing to hear it. Even conflicts have a higher purpose. It always serves the light

Yoda couldn't tell that Darth Sidius was in the same room with him ...

I honestly do not think the book you've used as a basis for this video, The Empire Strikes Back From A Certain Point of View is regarded as canon. In the A New Hope Version of this book, Qui-Gon appears to Obi-Wan in his physical form for the first time while Luke runs back to the Lars farm and we know now after the recent episode of Kenobi this is not true. Both these books, while interesting are considerer What If stories of a sort. So I do not think Yoda wanting to train Leia over Luke is regarded as canon.

@limitlesssky3050

2 жыл бұрын

They are supposedly canon because these books were directly written from the source material that the writers in Lucasfilm wrote. Many of these additional infos are actually just scenes that did not make the cut. But of course if you see it from the movie goers standpoint, anything that was not included in the movie are considered not canon.

@Jim-Tuner

2 жыл бұрын

That book is a collection of short stories written by a variety of authors. In the story in question about Leia and yoda in "Empire Strikes Back From A Certain Point of View", the author took Yoda's attitude toward Luke, his comment "there is another" and extrapolated a story from there. Its not canon There was no planned scene in Empire Strikes Back where Yoda was going to suggest Leia as the better choice to train.

@ZoeMalDoran

2 жыл бұрын

The books were both written before the Kenobi series, so it wouldn't surprise me if there are contradictions now

To me you nailed the case with your analysis. Thanks for the video.

As other people pointed out, I really think Leia was a less safe bet. She seemed more hot headed, and she HATED Vader. It was Luke's hope of redeeming Vader that saved the day. Leia was strong, but also manipulative, cunning, and definitely with no empathy towards Vader. Luke's emotions were not the same as Anakin's (sorry Yoda). Anakin's love turned selfish because he could not bear to lose Padme. So, he chose Evil selfishly not for her sake (since she would not want this), but for his own. When Luke went to Bespin, he was being rash, but I really think he was going their for his friends benefit, not it own, he wasn't willing to let them suffer because of him. It was poor judgement, but the motivation was selfless. Luke's motivation to face Vader in the end was to save him not defeat him, even though he knew it may mean his own demise. Luke did lose control momentarily against Vader in their final battle when Vader threatened to turn is sister, but quickly realized that giving himself over to the darkness was not way to save her or his friends. Anakin was hot headed, yes, but in the end, his decision to turn to the Dark Side was deliberate and selfish, not rash or heat of the moment. Luke never displayed such selfishness. Leia was also never selfish, but I always took Leia, particularly in the OG trilogy, to be win at all costs kind of personality. That to me would have made her more dangerous to train during that time period as I feel like that mindset lends itself more to the Dark Side. I'm not saying she would turn, but to me it would be more likely than Luke turning.

I've waited a LONG time for this day, my little greeeen friend.

I think she was even more susceptible to the Dark Side than Luke was. If she was in the same spot as Luke as Luke was vs. Vader does she stop and spare him in Return of the Jedi?

@violabeaumont3758

2 жыл бұрын

I don't believe she forms an emotional attachment to Vader either however. And I believe Leia does not leave Dagobah and abandon her training in Empire Strikes Back. So just because she might strike Vader down, there is nothing to suggest she would do so in a dark side rage, but more so out of obligation and duty. There is honestly nothing to suggest Leia would fall to the Dark Side.

I finally got to watch the video a few minutes ago and it was great but I have an idea for a new video you should make what if Luke and Leia were trained together by Yoda

That feels like a given, especially if Yoda (through meditation) kept an eye on her, or saw the type of person she would be in a future vision. She is steadfast and driven, and would never be easily swayed, just like her mother. Provided she is taught to embrace the value of kindness and peace as a child, even if the times force a fight, she'll fight for right and her beliefs over the interests of oppression or selfish gain and practice forgiveness and letting go, she'll make a phenomenal Jedi just because of who she is. Skywalker, though, is like his father. Strong, young yet even older at the start of his training, unpredictable. Naturally good hearted, but could easily go the same way as his father, as a broken heart could easily embrace the dark side. Yoda got it backwards, though. It was Luke that believed nothing was beyond redemption, embraced forgiveness and let go, while Leia begrudged Anakin for his actions as Vader (and _rightfully_ so, dude *tortured* her! Dispassionately looked on as the empire made any Alderran art pieces off world absolutely *priceless!* Would love an exposition from Thrawn on that one!), and took years for her to finally get over her hatred for him......but she did. Still, Yoda got that one wrong. Personally I think they should have never been separated and trained together. I bet they could have made that force thingy that Palpatine wanted with Rey, and was a very good reason to keep them apart

@East_Coast_Toasty_Boy

2 жыл бұрын

diad, a force diad

I think that they both should have been trained equally, as they balance each other out almost like yin and yang.

Anyone know why Yoda went into hiding when he knew you had to train them young? Luke and Leia would be masters by age 5 if they were in Degoba

@Only1199

2 жыл бұрын

Because he alongside Obi-Wan were the two most wanted Jedi to escape the purge, you're probably talking billions in credits worth of bounty for both of them, training them young was just way too risky, with their force signature, which would have been felt across the galaxy, the Emperor and Vader would have sensed them if they began their training from young and then gone to Dagobah, to 1) kill the Jedi training them, in this case, Yoda, who was in no state to fight two sith lords at once and 2) They'd take the children, Vader then feeling a connection to the children, realising that they are his kids.

@toddkurzbard

2 жыл бұрын

My guess would be that training them at that time would be like a 'beacon' to the Emperor and Vader as their power in The Force grew, and they would pursue both of them until they found them (and Yoda).

@East_Coast_Toasty_Boy

2 жыл бұрын

Bullshit. Darth Bane and every sith after him was able to hide in the galaxy during the jedi and republic rein.

Well done video but you seem to be mixing legends and canon. So this is a well thought out theory but still a theory about Yoda's thoughts about the twins.

The Jedi being Generals and taking other such leadership roles led to their downfall. Leia having grown up in such a position of power I think would have led her to fall to the dark side maybe harder than Anakin. Looking at Episode IV she was very arrogant towards Han, stuck her nose up at Tarkin as Anakin would have. The first part of Episode V showed the same tendency and then added in the fear and attachment that Jedi are loathe to embrace. Luke on the other hand was of relatively humble origins and while reckless tended to act selflessly. Yoda was right about his immaturity, but his first duel with Vader ended that and his love for his father turned out to be the wild card. Had Leia been trained and then tasked with confronting Vader, I think he hatred of him and desire to avenge Alderaan would have been her unduing.

Too much anger in her, too much like her father.

I feel like one of the biggest crimes of all the movies is Leia was downplayed in most of the Star Wars movies. Luke is absolutely wonderful and I love Luke I don’t want to seem like anything should be taken from him. But Leia should have also trained as a Jedi much earlier in the story and not an afterthought. Leia had just as much potential as Luke and the upbringing to be a great leader. Leia deserves more.

Nice video 👍

It's been awhile since I've watched your videos

The thing is that Luke believed that he could bring his father back to the light side, which actually happened, he being the reason why Anakin cameback and how the prophecy was finally accomplished, in the other side if im not mistaken cuz i dont remeber if its canon or from legends, for Leia to forgice his father took some time until she founded out from where his father came from, and well Luke being more alike his father, he could like simpathize with him, and his father was like a recall of what type of path and actions he musted follow and which not. In other words he was the perfect person to bring Anakin back and accomplished the prophecy cuz it was Anakin's love for his son that brought him back.

Leia would have been less likely to forgive her father because of her familiarity with him (and being tortured by him in episode 4). Luke's relative obscurity worked to his advantage in the end.

Imagine if the Jedi took both children to be trained

@Xavier17.5

2 жыл бұрын

no i refuse to imagine

I doubt Yoda would want to train Leia - in comparison Leia was way more temperamental - meaning her feelings were way stronger and more volatile than Luke - on top of that she had a "princess" upbringing meaing she was strong headed, convinced of her superiority as a royalties usually tend to - and she viewed from top on other people as well - Basically she had all traits that could make her fall to the darkside way esier and faster than in comparison to Luke. And on top of that he already ignored those traits and let Anakin be trained - a fatal decision for which he paid dearly later and i doubt he forgot that xD So while possible i bet Leia wasnt a "first on the list" candidate - if anything at best she was being as backup.

I'd love to see an animated "what if" series where leai is trained and Luke becomes the politician

I get why he wanted to train Leia but I still think it was Luke who had the compassion needed

If Master Yoda believed Leia to be a better 'candidate' as a Jedi, why didn't he pursue her training earlier, ESPECIALLY if he believed Jedi should begin training as early in life as possible?

Respectfully, where are you drawing these suppositions from?

Luke was the only one who could redeem Vader. However luke wasn’t that impacted by Vader as much as leia was. Sure his aunt and uncle died at the hands of the empire but not by Vader directly. The only terrible thing that he did to him was cut off his hand. I think if he did more to him maybe he would’ve chose not to save him. But with what we’ve been given leia would not save Vader. But her role as a great leader helped the rebellion win. So they each had their own important role. But also why not train both? Thank you for reading! If got this far here 🍪

Great video! I wish she was still with us!

Well, seeing as Leia was a Princess of Aldraan and Luke was just a simple Water Farm boy. It'd make sense she'd be more politically skilled and thus. A safer bet to be a Jedi, but just because someone seems to be the best bet. Isn't always the right choice, I feel like Luke was the right choice cause of his upbringing. While yeah, he was very much like his father. Ultimately he didn't become like his father, as he learned to let go of his anger and fear. Where as with Leia, I feel like she didn't and I even believe in some Legends material and even Canon. She still hated her father. She might of had the capabilities to be a Jedi and even a great leader. Personally, I feel emotionally she wasn't where as Luke, over the course of the OG trilogy he learned what it meant to be a Jedi Knight. Both Mentally and Emotionally. But those are my thoughts on this, Personally I think both of them should of been trained. I think together they could been a powerful force.

@evanabbott2737

2 жыл бұрын

A way better duo than Kylo and what’s her name…🤷‍♂️

@brandontrammel4581

2 жыл бұрын

I agree

@sagesixparties7217

2 жыл бұрын

He saw Luke as a Mini-Anakin

Give or take, I feel Leia would have done worse than Luke as a Jedi. She might have been able to keep a cool head when Alderaan was destroyed, but that was a very specific situation where she knew she was outgunned and couldn't act rashly against her captors no matter how much she would have wanted to, but who's to say she would have done the same thing had she received force training at that point? Anakin and his descendants can be inherently aggressive. And really, the only reason the rebellion even succeeded was because Luke was able to redeem Vader. Luke always had something of an attachment to his father through the stories he was told whereas Leia, last I checked, didn't even know who her real father was. In fact, she would straight up rebuke the idea of being related to a monster. If that happened then it might just cause Vader to withdraw further into the Dark Side and seek to kill Leia instead. Some might say "oh but she's family" but that didn't stop Anakin from force choking Padme in a fit of anger. Luke was able to succeed as despite initially rejecting Vader, he didn't completely rebuke the idea of being with his father either and wanted to redeem him. He also went against Obi-Wan and Yoda's warnings against trying such a thing whereas Leia is far more likely to listen.

I would love if they did a star wars what if show that had alternate versions and stories where we see what could've been

That title caught me off guard lmao

Awesome 🗡️

There is one thing I wish we got which is Luke and Leia being tort together.

I literally only have two words for this video. "I Agree." lol

Damn, a duel between Vader and Leia would’ve been awesome tho

legends know this was privated 3 minutes after it was released

he did tell OBi wan 'no there is another' - which in episode 6 was thought to reference Leia

Yoda "mmhmmhmmhmm on leias back I would have rather been"

Methinks he wanted to see the lady Skywalker in her slave outfit, he did

Love the content as always Stupendous but it's already canon that Leia is darker than luke has to much of her father in her, as I recall some stuff goes down and she realizes this and humbly tells Luke "I'm done" either the comic where she shreds assassin's right in front of her kid that came after her and something else also but I forget what it is either way great Vid Also... to me the way Luke floats close to the Darkside a couple times he CATCHES himself to me that's even more of a Great Character element.. that gives him more credit he stops himself and does the right thing.

Then you watch the sequels and realize that the last minute of this video is completely wrong. Luke's experience in working with groups was limited to his experience as a pilot in the Rebel Alliance. There he was working with other pilots who were already trained and skilled in their jobs. He merely had to lead people who had already committed to the Alliance and only needed him as a leader during combat. He utterly failed to rebuild the Jedi Order because he had no idea *how* to do so and was largely just trying to emulate the one-on-one training that he had received, but with a larger group of students. Otherwise, he lacked organizational skills. Leia on the other hand had been raised from childhood to lead people of lower rank and get the most out of people with varying skills and experience. She understood organization and delegation, how to work with recruits versus experienced personnel, and how to compartmentalize her own emotions so as not to become irrational in the face of even the worst tragedies (e.g. the destruction of Alderaan). Even if the fact that Darth Vader was her biological father had become public, as it did in the sequels' backstory, it would have had less impact if she were symbolically his Jedi antagonist than it did for her as a politician.

I say just train both, cause why limit yourself.

Where do u get these " thoughts and opinions of yoda" from? Comics? Which ones? Just kind of curious how you come up with some of these videos. Example " this person thought this about this person" or " blank reveals how he/she feels about blank

Leia’s first commitment would’ve always been to the Rebellion/New Republic if she was the next grand master the needs of the Force and new order would’ve been side lined or (like in the Clone Wars) under the control of the government Luke on the other hand had nothing in his life after his uncle and aunt died so he could fully commit himself to will of the light side

Do you know why Leia didn't own a watch? There's a clock on the stove!

The the princess trained from a young age to lead is more emotional mature than the sheltered and isolated farm boy. Color me shocked

Given what happened in the sequel trilogy this is where you got to give it to Yoda.

It's a shame we'll never get to see Leia as a Jedi in training after the Battle of Endor that we see in *The Rise of Skywalker.*

A series that might be good would be one about yoda’s life & rise to master. Though not sure disney would do the story justice.

It would be funny to see an alternate episode 4 where young farmer Leia set out to rescue the snobish Prince Luke Organa :P And also Han solo falling in Love with Luke :P

1st of all everything I'm about to say comes from an EU perspective because I don't acknowledge Disney. Yeah I couldn't disagree with this more. Leia was far more likely to follow the dark side because of her self assuredness.There was an arrogance her. She was a bit too competitive still constantly trying to prove things even though people already respected her. Luke showed from the beginning when his Aunt and Uncle were murdered that he didn't react to things the same way his father did. Luke's pure heart was the difference between him and his father. If you look at Luke in the Empire Strikes Back you could see his leadership skills already developing quickly and he was mentally geared towards being a Jedi and learning what it was was to be a Jedi not a wartime leader first. Which was integral in my opinion. The Force knew who the right one was to continue the Jedi way.

@East_Coast_Toasty_Boy

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, Leia is definitely Anakin's child.

Maybe they should have been trained together, as a duo they would be a beast if trained to work in sync

What does Yoda's opinion matter . . . He was so wrong about everything, including what he thought about Luke to which Luke became a great Jedi.

@darkwolfe6286

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed one of the reasons the Jedi continued into the rigid dogmatic ideology that allowed them to be so easily manipulated was him being on the council and being the grandmaster. No new perspectives or changes in Jedi way made then stagnant. Palpatine eludes it to yoda when he said " Your arrogance blinds you ( meaning jedi way ) Master Yoda. Also having the Jedi located right in the center of political discourse and intrigue instead of being on the outside kept them from having a clear perspective

I love to see leia as Jedi sentinel with doubled bladed yellow crystal Wearing grand master grey Jedi robe She stays as head of republic and only being a master Jedi when evil calls

If Tarkin was still alive in this scenario, Leia would have most certainly attempted to make him pay for the destruction of her home planet through any means she could access, whether it'd be torture or outright hunting him down to kill him.

Maybe I'm wrong, I haven't consumed every piece of lore, but I always got the impression that Leia's connection to the force was more in the realm of like Emotional Sensory/Mind Trickery. I think we only see her use the force in a physical way once, and that's only when she's about to die in the vacuum of space. Maybe it would've lead to a much different confrontation with different parameters for coming out victorious if she had been in Luke's position..but if it had been Leia and it came down to the same situation that Luke faced, I don't think it would've panned out as well.

I mean.. Leia was ready.. she would have been ideal. I never thought about it until Yoda talked about it in the "certain point of view" book with Obi-wan.

If yoda genuinely believed Leia was more worthy due to her skills as a leader he is clearly dense. The greatest failing of the Jedi was being involved in politics. Teaching, healing, exploring, and helping was the true way of the Jedi. Honestly the more the light surpresses the dark side, the more likely it is to survive. Without the guardians of peace like the Jedi to unify the dark side, it will always turn on itself and destabilize.

Princess raised, Moisture Farmer raised, duh

I always wondered that, even in the recent obi-wan tv show, Luke seemed more important, when surely they should both be trained

Love Leia she a good Jedi and great person. Also I like that Yoda looks past raw strength and see that Leia would have been a better leader and maybe a better all around Jedi hard to say. Both have there strength. Both would make great leader which they do I can imagine though Leia leading the Jedi and having a more Yoda style approach to leading them.

Still don’t get why he couldn’t just… train both of them.

Idk if i would call yoda... The wisest Jedi ever...but then again i do control the entire universe and what happens in it so loooool

While it's true that Luke was the better choice to become a Jedi i also like the idea of Leia becoming one as well, her being a Jedi princess seems pretty cool to me, i even wonder hos Star Wars would change in Lucas actually decided to make Leia the main heroine of the saga.

@daneelderozan263

2 жыл бұрын

She would pretty much be Rey

@samuelebincoletto637

2 жыл бұрын

@@daneelderozan263 With all due respect but i don't think so, Rey was a terrible character because she could pretty much do everything without training and no logical explanation on why, the most infamous example is of course when she beat Kylo Ren despite having never been trained in lightsaber combat. Leia on the other hand has many information about her upbringing that perfectly explain her skills, she was raised in royalty and educated since childhood to be a leader, there are even many information that she was trained in martial arts so that she could learn to defend herself (one of it is a quote from the book Heir of the Empire of Thrawn's trilogy), as such unlike Rey her skills would make much more sense. Obviously to not be a Mary Sue like Rey she would need to undergo the same journey and training of Luke to become a jedi and finally defeat Vader, and not before being beaten by him the first time i might add.

@daneelderozan263

2 жыл бұрын

@@samuelebincoletto637 yooo! I gotta salute that ! Lol i did not see it like that

@samuelebincoletto637

2 жыл бұрын

@@daneelderozan263 Wow, I didn't though I would achieve so much with just a comment.

I think this was the one time Obi Wan was wiser then yoda for wanting to train Luke he knew leia had far too much of Anakin within her and she'd be more easily to fall to the Darkside then Luke

I think they both should have been trained side by side. That would have balanced each other out

Imagine disney did a What If? Series. Vader and Luke overthrow Sidious, Yoda trains Leia who joins forces with Ahsoka and Yoda to defeat father and son

because he knew if he was anything like anikin(which usualy in movies the son always has a tonne of traits from the father just naturally) he would be absolute hard work and yoda probs wanted none of it 😅

Yoda wanted another sociopath to train into a killing machine

Princess Leia was the greatest stealth candidate. She flew so far under the "Force Radar" that not even Vader or Emperor Palpitine could detect her For had they known that she, like Luke was a Force Sensitive, they would have not rested until they got their paws on Leia. You are correct that Princess Leia had the calm demeanor, patience, coolness under fire, and the potential to weild The Force like Obi-Wan and Yoda. So, she would have been a great Padawan under Grand Master Yoda. If only she and Luke could have trained together, maybe the civil war wouldn't have lasted as long.

If yoda was so scared of Luke becoming his father why did he ever send him to live on Tatooine in the first place?

Cause well, Luke messed up and leia never lost sight of what she had to do …

Leia would have been a bad choice only in that her lack of attachments would have allowed her to kill Vader rather than redeem him as Luke did.

In the original films I wasn't aware she was force sensitive. I should've read the novels aswell.

Luke tried training Leia but it didn't go well I forgot which film it was that showed this but it happens after they find out they are sisters

He had a vision of the future of slave Leia obviously

There's an alternate history DLC in The Force Unleashed where Leia becomes Starkillers apprentice.

@williamsu7918

2 жыл бұрын

no that was luke, leia died

@MikefromTexas1

2 жыл бұрын

@@williamsu7918 2 different DLCs man. The one on Hoth, Luke became his apprentice. The one on Endor, Leia did.

@williamsu7918

2 жыл бұрын

@@MikefromTexas1 yea she died, you take her out and then you fight boba fett

How was Yoda able to keep tabs no Leia exactly? he choose Dagoba precisely because it was so remote and shrouded in the dark side. Was he just stretching his consciousness to keep and eye on the twins?

Luke and Leia both should of been Jedi in the original trilogy and of course at the end have Luke defeat Vader and Sidious because Luke is the male. Han and Lando and Chewie should of been the only ones using blasters.