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  • @howellhargreaves5394
    @howellhargreaves5394 Жыл бұрын

    I love my impact driver

  • @alexbamberg485

    @alexbamberg485

    Жыл бұрын

    Me too

  • @rhinoman5078

    @rhinoman5078

    Жыл бұрын

    Same, in love with my Dewalt XR, get a boner at every screws in 😂

  • @yobtnirp

    @yobtnirp

    Жыл бұрын

    @@rhinoman5078 tf bro took it too far

  • @Cool_hand_luker

    @Cool_hand_luker

    Жыл бұрын

    @@yobtnirp it’s the internet… there is no such thing as too far 😂😂

  • @GTB-yu2be

    @GTB-yu2be

    Жыл бұрын

    At work, when no one is looking I sometimes drive in screws for absolutely no reason😄. Especially if I find a nice long fat one. The longer the better but the girth is what really counts. Size really does matter ☺️

  • @ArpadBuildsThis
    @ArpadBuildsThis Жыл бұрын

    For me I love my impact drivers! Sure the drill might be better in some situations, but I find I almost always use a drill for holes and an impact for screws. Works really well as long as you have good control over the trigger

  • @artv4nd3l4y

    @artv4nd3l4y

    Жыл бұрын

    Yeah I understand some people might not have the control, but I always use my impact. Also the brand quality will help with being able to control it and keep it low speed, I could see cheaper ones not have the same finesse.

  • @jacksmith2315

    @jacksmith2315

    Жыл бұрын

    The new makita impact is amazing. Has all kinds of settings. Torq levels, one for self tapping screws, even one for bolts. The most controls on an impact ive seen. I still rarely use them and just use my finger as variable speed. But at least they're there if i need them.

  • @barberismeable

    @barberismeable

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@jacksmith2315 what model is that? Not sure if it's sold here in my country. Should I buy drill or impact? I want to DIY carpentry works at home. Mostly 15mm plywood. Will impact damage the screws or overkill? Btw, I already own Bosch drill 500w but it's corded

  • @jacksmith2315

    @jacksmith2315

    Жыл бұрын

    @barberismeable its the xdt-16. The newest 18v makita makes. Probably about 2yrs old now. If you already have a corded drill, id get an impact. With an impact, you can do pretty much everything a hammer drill can do except drill concrete, since they make pretty much everything with the quick change/quick lock ends now. Its not too much for any task, because you can adjust settings, or not squeeze the trigger all the way and jus release your finger before something gets too tight since almost everything has variable speed triggers. I have both hammer drill and impact so i pretty much use my impact for fasteners and drill for drilling holes, but sometimes ill put a spade/paddle bit on my impact and blast right thru stuff super fast when im doing rough work and dont need a really clean hole.

  • @artemaung5274

    @artemaung5274

    7 ай бұрын

    Impact is high "horsepower" but low torque which then allows you for very precise control. Like it can spin rapidly but when hitting a certain threshold of torque it will stop just as rapidly. Drill drivers on the other hand are very high torque, but low horsepower - they spin slowly, but they with chew right through your Philips bits and screws like nothing with almost no feedback. Like a sport bike vs a semi. Or another way to describe it is steering. With hydraulic steering, you're in tune with every nuance of the road; every bump and imperfection travels through the wheel to your hands. Electric steering, leave you feeling disconnected - everything's too smooth, too insulated. Exactly the same as Impact vs a drill. And the only reason why it's not obvious to everyone is because drills have torque control and impacts don't have them. The key difference lies in the torque control: drills come with this feature, allowing you to set a torque threshold and avoid overdoing it. But here's the catch - materials like wood aren't consistent, making it nearly impossible to find a 'one-torque-fits-all' setting. Impacts, with their raw, unforgiving power, demand a more seasoned hand. A slight excess pressure on the trigger, and you've overdriven a screw or split the wood. Beginners often lean towards drills, seeking to avoid these mishaps, and over time, they develop a comfort and proficiency with them. But this comfort can become a barrier to mastering the impact driver, which, in skilled hands, can outperform a drill. The longer this goes on - the harder to switch. But this whole debate goes down to this. I worked with someone who was about as experienced as I am and about as fast as I am. He was way faster than couple of other guys. Still, I was faster than him with my old impact. I didn't mess up a single screw and I finished identical piece before him. And I think if he mastered the impact it would be reversed - he would be faster than me.

  • @luvverboy93
    @luvverboy93 Жыл бұрын

    I use my impact way more often then my drill. And what you said about the impact not having a speed control, most use a variable speed trigger to control the speed.

  • @AJBuiltThis
    @AJBuiltThis Жыл бұрын

    I've found that newer impact drivers (with speed/torque selection switches) are really incredible for driving fasteners of all kinds but I will take a drill over an impact for ~drilling~ applications any day. Impacts being used properly are also a lot about trigger control. Coming from a construction background I have witnessed many individuals who don't understand what a variable speed trigger is or just don't care as long as they ram that screw in that 2x4. Woodworking involves a lot more patience and care than building a house though.

  • @ScottWalshWoodworking

    @ScottWalshWoodworking

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks AJ! yeah this video is definitely geared towards the home hobbyist woodworker. Trigger control is definitely very important when doing delicate things.

  • @redecks336

    @redecks336

    Жыл бұрын

    I can confirm most people don't know how to use a variable trigger, they think its on or off. Case in point, tasked my laborer to install the trim ring on a shower mixing valve, heard the BRRRRRRRRRT and knew nothing good was to come of that. Couple hours of trying to find the right length and size screws, right color paint and some trial and error, got the trim ring installed. You can go as slow as you want with variable triggers, most people just send it and blame the bit for the slippage.

  • @hloyhesit8403

    @hloyhesit8403

    Жыл бұрын

    Listening to someone drill holes with an impact all day drives me crazy.

  • @jacksmith2315

    @jacksmith2315

    Жыл бұрын

    @Hloy Hesit i was doing a painting job at a friends house a few days and had to remove and install mini blinds and curtains with a sleeping baby in the next room. It was actually quiter to use my impact that my drill. It was almost 15yrs ago, and my first 12v dewalt brushed set. The impact only hit a couple times, then quietly spun the screws out wo impacting. The drill made the screws screech really loud the entire time, both pulling them and putting them back in the existing holes. I was pretty shocked by that. I thought for sure the impact would have been louder.

  • @jamescartwright3854
    @jamescartwright3854 Жыл бұрын

    I'm a professional cabinet maker and use my impact everyday!! Couldn't live without it.

  • @danielbrown9368

    @danielbrown9368

    Ай бұрын

    "professional cabinet maker' would be about as far from hobbyist level as you can get though.

  • @HeyChickens
    @HeyChickens11 ай бұрын

    I still very much like the more total control that a drill gives while driving screws, as well as the quietness. I can feel the exact amount of back pressure from driving a screw, and that helps me gauge how many I need to use to hold something, or whether or not the wood is about to split. And when driving a screw deep into wood, it often takes longer and wastes battery more than a good regular drill.

  • @disklamer
    @disklamer Жыл бұрын

    Impacts are super useful for constructive fasteners like lagbolts and long screws, one of the best things about them is they won't break your wrist when a heavy fastener jams.

  • @jacksmith2315

    @jacksmith2315

    Жыл бұрын

    I thought he was going to mention the advantage of an impact just hammering instead of the drill twisting your wrist when they bind

  • @bkjin3515

    @bkjin3515

    Жыл бұрын

    i need Anti-kickback system :)

  • @AnimatorsatWork
    @AnimatorsatWork Жыл бұрын

    I like Steve Ramsay’s logic for having both as essential tools: ones for drilling, ones for driving. I know that drills can do both, but it’s easier to have one set up for drilling pilot holes and one set up for driving screws.

  • @TracksWithDax

    @TracksWithDax

    Жыл бұрын

    Same, I try to stick to using them separately when I can. Either can technically do the others job, sure, but the impact driver does SOOO much better at driving Send and the drill is easier to control and is way quieter for drilling.

  • @search_eternal
    @search_eternal5 ай бұрын

    DeWalt has a bit holder kit (DWAFTAS-9) that is magnetic and it locks the bits in. So the bit stays in when you pull it off the screw.

  • @luddel4747
    @luddel47477 ай бұрын

    Tips: clutch bitholders from ”Essve” keeps the bit rock steady (its locked in). Can’t imagine Wera’s and Festool’s alternatives in the same price range didn’t solve this problem either.

  • @GuruMeditationError
    @GuruMeditationError Жыл бұрын

    You are the first person I've seen explain how an impact driver works and why it's desirable in an understandable and complete way. Thank you!

  • @jacksmith2315

    @jacksmith2315

    Жыл бұрын

    One thing he didnt mention as a benefit for impacts apposed to drills and a drill can bind and twist your wrist, an impact wont it will just keep hammering. I thought for sure he was going to mention that but didn't

  • @richardinmaryland6197

    @richardinmaryland6197

    11 ай бұрын

    @@jacksmith2315 0:36

  • @warrenbutt3746
    @warrenbutt3746 Жыл бұрын

    Even with pre-drilling my drill was absolutely struggling to get in the big torx head structural lags for my deck this summer without either clutching out or breaking my wrist, the impact driver made short work of them though. Definitely a different story for smaller woodworking projects though. Also, having two drills so you don't have to swap between the drill bit and the screw bit when doing a bunch of alternating pre-drills and screws (like when I was laying deck boards) is a huge time saver.

  • @jacksmith2315

    @jacksmith2315

    Жыл бұрын

    They have a bit that flips so you can predrill and screw all with one bit. I never used one but seen them used a few times. Pretty handy. Its 1/4 hex/quick change so you can put it on your impact

  • @barberismeable

    @barberismeable

    Жыл бұрын

    what model is that? Not sure if it's sold here in my country. Should I buy drill or impact? I want to DIY carpentry works at home. Mostly 15mm plywood. Will impact damage the screws or overkill? Btw, I already own Bosch drill 500w but it's corded

  • @MikeKunkel
    @MikeKunkel Жыл бұрын

    7th generation woodworker here (specialty is architectural millwork). Around the time I started professionally, impact drivers were just starting to become widely available. They took over quickly, and before long, every professional woodworker I knew was using impact drivers for every single screw they drove. My drill is only ever used for boring holes. The few times that I have ended up driving a screw with a drill over the past 20 years, I remember why my drills see such little use. Also, in the shops that I have worked in, pre-drilling was not always done. In a lot of cases, the screws were acting more as a clamp until the glue dried, as opposed to being a core structural component. It was very often that minor splits could be acceptable and more often there would be little risk of splitting, so no pre-drilling would be done. As with most things, it's not a hard and fast rule.

  • @niq872

    @niq872

    Жыл бұрын

    in the shops i have worked in everyone mostly used impacts except when needing to using multiple bits. really only used drills for drilling holes we only predrilled if we felt it would be needed but never really had an issue with splitting most screws we used were self tapping, i will say though i used a spade bit on an impact and was blown away how well and fast it worked. we did mostly cabinetry but i mostly did countertops and doors so i didn't use screws as often as others.

  • @4321Woodworking
    @4321Woodworking Жыл бұрын

    I'm an impact driver woodworker but do find I never use setting 3 (high) in the shop. One thing wanted to mention is that you can get a quick release/quick lok/quick change but holder that is the same hold and release type the impact has but could be put on the drill and holds the bit unlike the magnetic. Just an option for those using only a drill so I thought I'd mention it, every tool brand makes one for under $10. Great video and info!

  • @jonathanbetenbender307

    @jonathanbetenbender307

    Жыл бұрын

    Also there's a drill chuck adapter for impact. It's kinda bulky, but nice when you need it; which is rare and I've only used it with a 90° adapter. It's a savior (90°); surprisingly comes up for me more often than the pivoting bit holders.

  • @jacksmith2315

    @jacksmith2315

    Жыл бұрын

    There's also a driver that you can switch the whole head so you can have a drill, driver, 90°/right angle/ and offset all in one tool. You can install the 90° and offset in multiple positions to have it where you need it in tight spaces. Milwaukee has one in ther m12 line, but i dont like how it has the hand guard making it like like some kind of phaser or something. Dewalt has one in their 12v line thats just like a typical drill or driver. I got the dewalt.

  • @omegaminus
    @omegaminus Жыл бұрын

    I have both from DeWalt also and love them. I find the drill is best for "delicate" and precise tasks where bit torque really matters, but the impact is ideal for "clumsy" high-torque applications like fastening boards together or general "shed work". I got both from a kit a few years back and make a point to use both.

  • @artemaung5274

    @artemaung5274

    7 ай бұрын

    It's almost opposite for me. Impact have more control, drills have more consistent torque. So I use impact for handling delicate screws or just about anything except drilling. And I use my hammer drill for drilling and for hammer drilling because it's more consistent where you don't care about feedback as much, just need powerful unstoppable torque with controlled speed. If you learn how to use impact you will be faster with it.

  • @artemaung5274

    @artemaung5274

    7 ай бұрын

    OR I can copy paste this comment here to explain further: "Impact is high "horsepower" but low torque which then allows you for very precise control. Like it can spin rapidly but when hitting a certain threshold of torque it will stop just as rapidly. Drill drivers on the other hand are very high torque, but low horsepower - they spin slowly, but they with chew right through your Philips bits and screws like nothing with almost no feedback. Like a sport bike vs a semi. Or another way to describe it is steering. With hydraulic steering, you're in tune with every nuance of the road; every bump and imperfection travels through the wheel to your hands. Electric steering, leave you feeling disconnected - everything's too smooth, too insulated. Exactly the same as Impact vs a drill. And the only reason why it's not obvious to everyone is because drills have torque control and impacts don't have them. The key difference lies in the torque control: drills come with this feature, allowing you to set a torque threshold and avoid overdoing it. But here's the catch - materials like wood aren't consistent, making it nearly impossible to find a 'one-torque-fits-all' setting. Impacts, with their raw, unforgiving power, demand a more seasoned hand. A slight excess pressure on the trigger, and you've overdriven a screw or split the wood. Beginners often lean towards drills, seeking to avoid these mishaps, and over time, they develop a comfort and proficiency with them. But this comfort can become a barrier to mastering the impact driver, which, in skilled hands, can outperform a drill. The longer this goes on - the harder to switch. But this whole debate goes down to this. I worked with someone who was about as experienced as I am and about as fast as I am. He was way faster than couple of other guys. Still, I was faster than him with my old impact. I didn't mess up a single screw and I finished identical piece before him. And I think if he mastered the impact it would be reversed - he would be faster than me."

  • @kvernesdotten
    @kvernesdotten6 ай бұрын

    Your tiny segment on impact drivers is far more accurate and descriptive than alot of full-length videos dedicated to drills/impacts and how they work. Like, not to bad-mouth anyone, but you kinda put quite a few much bigger channels to shame there. Good job!

  • @dmitripogosian5084
    @dmitripogosian50848 ай бұрын

    For a fine control I typically finish screws by hand :)

  • @capti443
    @capti443 Жыл бұрын

    Regarding the drill charging station, because I have tall ceilings in my basement shop, I placed my drill driver, impact driver, right angle driver, bit holders, pneumatic hose, vacuum hose, 115VAC outlet, and other related items in a storage system right above where I stand at my main bench. They are all in easy reach for immediate use, and they don’t take up valuable wall space. The system doesn’t interfere with the headroom above the bench or vise for large items, and it saves travel time because I don’t have to walk to a wall to get stuff. Lastly, having the power supply, air hose, and vacuum hose coming from overhead declutters the bench and floor. Hope this helps!

  • @Mando98
    @Mando986 ай бұрын

    My first tools were dewalt but ended up going to Milwaukee bc I liked the size and variety in their m12 line. That little Milwaukee fuel impact is so small and powerful! I’m just a DIYer but I don’t like variable speed triggers. I prefer choosing the speeds with the button but I can see why variable speed triggers are useful in many scenarios. The few times I’ve worked with wood, I like to use my drill over the impact for the control. Great video man!

  • @nosreuter
    @nosreuter7 ай бұрын

    I've finally finished orbiting around KZread's uncountable amount of youtubers and come back to binge some Scott Walsh and I have to say let's get the popcorn out because you are awesome!!! Just the perfect mix of humorous and educational content 🙌 And all that from a shop size that I can get inspiration from to make my own small space work better!! 🎉

  • @dalriada842
    @dalriada8426 ай бұрын

    I still have my dad's old Black & Decker drill from the seventies. It works great after being cleaned up, and regreased inside. I have four drills, but have not yet acquired an impact driver.

  • @rich8037
    @rich8037 Жыл бұрын

    I splashed out on one of the 'fluid drive' impact drivers (Milwaukee for me, for sentimental reasons I won't bore you with) and don't regret a penny of it. SOOO much nicer to use - less vibration, less noise. And yes, it has a speed switch and yes, that (plus a bit of practice, always a useful thing) helps avoid broken screws.

  • @mashthereal
    @mashthereal2 ай бұрын

    I wish I found this video when I was a newbie shopping around for tools. Very informative, provides correct situations on when each tool would be wanted, and short/to the point.

  • @flatlander523
    @flatlander523 Жыл бұрын

    Spot on there Scott. I have both but don't use the impact until the monster screws come out to play. You know the ones. I love your videos. To the point with just the right amount of humor. Hang in there someday you will get to have a bigger shop.

  • @mdipltd7404

    @mdipltd7404

    Жыл бұрын

    If they're that big I get out the battery hammer drill, set to drive and boom, big screws fly in.

  • @Lickmuffin
    @Lickmuffin Жыл бұрын

    Why do woodworkers so overthink things?

  • @JB-fh1bb
    @JB-fh1bb8 ай бұрын

    I’m a fan of your editing and signal ratio. You have a new subscriber!

  • @Aaron-nj4ou
    @Aaron-nj4ou Жыл бұрын

    Scott as a Canadian you know that they are properly referred to as “Robertson” drive not square 😉 I consider my impact driver a renovation tool that I couldn’t live without but never reach for when building furniture. I have been trying to justify that Festool gun with the cool handle as I really like the shape but the house foreman hasn’t approved that purchase yet.

  • @jeffreytinacanine5026

    @jeffreytinacanine5026

    Жыл бұрын

    Festool is nice but we have found them lacking in the field simply due to ergonomics, if you are going to spend that kind of money go Hilti all day every day.

  • @ScottWalshWoodworking

    @ScottWalshWoodworking

    Жыл бұрын

    One day I went down a rabbit hole of the history of Robertson screws. If I recall correctly, Robertson still has a patent on a particular geometry (I think it's the taper angle) and they claim that you should only use Robertson brand bits with Robertson brand screws. Any deviation is considered sacrilege to them 🤷‍♂️

  • @jeffwilder7117

    @jeffwilder7117

    Жыл бұрын

    At my house it’s better to ask forgiveness than to ask permission. I just do what I want. Then it’s already done.

  • @wombat3024

    @wombat3024

    8 ай бұрын

    But outside North America, I think hardly anyone has heard of them, so its more informative to describe them. In Europe far more folk now use Torx, which I think is the best, and also the screws sit obediently on the end of the driver bit while you get into position, very handy if you're using stainless steel screws. Posidriv or Phillips, yuk...

  • @capti443
    @capti443 Жыл бұрын

    Great discussion! Like you, I’ve settled on the DeWalt platform (debated between them and Milwaukee - but my home builder and most contractors seem to use yellow & black around here - though Milwaukee tools are excellent too). I relegate my impact driver to construction projects (deck building, etc.) and rely on my drill driver for 99.99% of woodworking. Two primary reasons for this: (1) if you need the power of an impact driver for furniture, you’re doing something wrong probably, and (2) the speed of driving a screw into wood with an impact driver can lead to the wood splitting whereas the slower speed of a drill-driver allows the wood to “relax” a bit to accommodate it better IMHO. Thanks and keep up the great work!

  • @1steelcobra

    @1steelcobra

    Жыл бұрын

    I like DeWalt. They might not be the best tool in every test, but they're usually in the top three every time and seem to last really well. And if you're buying into a battery ecosystem for cordless tools, it's a pretty good option.

  • @chrisrice2159
    @chrisrice2159Ай бұрын

    For your concern @ 1:07 , Wera makes a bitholder (in magnetic or non-magnetic) that has a snap/quick-change and then your bit doesn't pop out. They're pretty great.

  • @AntisepticHandwash
    @AntisepticHandwash20 күн бұрын

    Really good, well-communicated video. Pleasure to watch as a complete layperson. Thank you!

  • @PeterEmery
    @PeterEmery9 ай бұрын

    I'm a member of a Men's Shed group. Three years ago we replaced our stolen Milwaukee gear with new ones that turned out to be brushless, very nice. But what was intriguing was the pair of impact drivers: they have three different torque settings AND a drill-only setting. Often they are used on the drill setting because of the really short head compared to the pair of cordless hammer drills which are almost twice the length.

  • @ironwolf3699
    @ironwolf36998 ай бұрын

    I love using both, I always make pilot holes, I hate having to hold a screw just to have it move off and not tap in.

  • @simmensg
    @simmensg7 ай бұрын

    Get the wera bit holder. Works like a charm!

  • @dgonzo222
    @dgonzo222 Жыл бұрын

    The “marketing really does work on me 🤔” made me subscribe. Bravo sir. Bravo.

  • @Guardian_Arias
    @Guardian_Arias Жыл бұрын

    Fair points, instead of using the basic magnetic holders look for a quick change bit holder that have a collar you pull back just like with the impact drills to lock bits in. Impacts are way underutilized if not use for removing 9/16 nuts and bolts and up. As for a several hundred screws in an hour argument one might make for an impact well there is a better tool for that and its a Screw Gun.

  • @jacksmith2315

    @jacksmith2315

    Жыл бұрын

    Even when doing decking or installing a bunch of hangers with screws i still prefer impact of screw gun. The only reason i would buy a screw gun is if i did sheetrock for a living cause they wont over sink them. Other than that drill and impact is the way to go for everything else. Drill for holes impact for fasteners. I have a set of drill bits with the 1/4 hex/quick change, i still use them in my drill instead of in the impact. Something about impacting on a drill bit doesnt sit well with me. Except for hammer drill with concrete of course

  • @hr8479
    @hr847914 күн бұрын

    I am using my father's Black & Decker drill from 1973 (orange and grey) and I like the chuck key. I can release the drill bit every time, something I often struggled to do with the cordless B&D hammer drill I bought 30 years ago. The black plastic sleeves on that could be very slippery for tired, sweaty hands. Plus my cordless drill batteries have given up and I can't get replacements, hence why I am now using his and it is so much better at drilling into masonry. Go chuck keys, yay!

  • @marvinmartin4692
    @marvinmartin4692 Жыл бұрын

    I’ve been woodworking for 50 years and I use them all the time!

  • @madjackgamingandfitness498
    @madjackgamingandfitness4987 ай бұрын

    A good bit attachment that 9/10 won’t remove the bit when you pull back is dewalts magnetic holder. Round head shape cost about 6-12$ depending on size. Totally worth it use it with ratchets too.

  • @402SHO
    @402SHO Жыл бұрын

    If you want a impact for wood working I definitely recommend the m12 surge it’s not extremely powerful, and the hydraulic makes it quieter. I personally have one to use when installing and working on cabinets.

  • @davidyoung1610

    @davidyoung1610

    7 ай бұрын

    Agreed. Hydraulic impacts are a different animal altogether.

  • @drengskap
    @drengskap3 ай бұрын

    I have that exact same DeWalt XR drill/driver combo, and I must admit I don't use the impact driver nearly as often as the drill - it's doesn't give nearly as much control over setting screws, and it's much too easy to bury a screw deep in your workpiece. I much prefer working with the greater finesse of the drill's clutch control. Use a locking bit holder on the drill, and bit changes are just as quick and secure as on the impact. I'd only use the impact for driving a large quantity of screws very fast, e.g. for decking.

  • @wulff-
    @wulff-6 ай бұрын

    I've been using the DeWalt Gyroscopic Driver (DCF680N2) for smaller and delicate screws. It's also fantastic for anything around the house where the drill is just over kill.

  • @hansangb
    @hansangb Жыл бұрын

    @ 1:05 Rapidaptor by Wera. It will change your life. It's meant for an impact, but you can chuck it up on a drill and works WONDERFULLY. Life's just too short to always be picking up the damn bit. I do like impacts because it's lighter and fits better in a confined space. But hearing protection is a must (and annoying to others) :) As for spin of death, once you go to spax or square drive, it's a thing of the past. But I did not know about impacts ability to sink in the bit. Learn something new every day.

  • @emorphien

    @emorphien

    Жыл бұрын

    I came to see if anyone had said anything. These are indeed great. There are competing products, but it's one of the nicer ones.

  • @cheeseballs3825
    @cheeseballs3825 Жыл бұрын

    I love my impact driver. I will walk home and get it before I drive a screw with a drill.

  • @SingleTrack66
    @SingleTrack6615 күн бұрын

    As what most people would consider “an expert carpenter” I hardly ever use my impact driver. My Festool T18 is so smooth and powerful and the quick change system is amazing.

  • @nosfer6
    @nosfer64 ай бұрын

    Thank you for this video. It answered all of my questions and in just over six minutes, now I have time to watch a couple of ghost and alien videos before I get working!

  • @RVDL
    @RVDL22 күн бұрын

    The issue where the bit stays stuck in the screw head, is solvable by using a quick release bit holder. The big brands like DeWalt have their own versions of it, but there is a good chance it is in one of the bit sets.

  • @charlespetit5410
    @charlespetit5410 Жыл бұрын

    Super well made video man, loved the content!

  • @pattyofurniture100
    @pattyofurniture100 Жыл бұрын

    Been using my bosch impact nearly every day for the last 6 years. Never went back to a drill for fasteners. I don't know about dewalt but my bosch has a motor that slows down as you squeeze less on the trigger so I guess you'd call it variable speed. This has been infinitely helpful at giving me precise depth control of all fasteners. Something you really don't get with a drill at all.

  • @Browneye57
    @Browneye5711 ай бұрын

    Long time woodworker learning about impact drivers. I never liked that they spin too fast...will look into one that is adjustable. Great vid. 👍

  • @AlistairBeckett
    @AlistairBeckett6 ай бұрын

    For your drill, try the Wera bit adapter. It locks the bit in so won’t fall out after driving a screw.

  • @user-gs6lp9ko1c
    @user-gs6lp9ko1c10 ай бұрын

    Nice tutorial. Thank you!

  • @justauser
    @justauser3 ай бұрын

    Getting a 12V screwdriver like the M12 Fuel screwdriver is the best of both worlds

  • @EvanDunville
    @EvanDunville Жыл бұрын

    I bought the husk knives on a previous video and I really like them. I accidentally bought 4 and was able to sell them off to family that also really likes them. I love my impact, for rough construction or automotive use they are way faster and as you said they sound cooler.

  • @sjsomething4936
    @sjsomething4936 Жыл бұрын

    I’ve found that the impact is best for rough carpentry / construction and the drill is superior when finer control is needed, generally when making more precision cabinets or similar furniture. To be fair I’ve never had a chance to try an impact with multi settings, and for the record I have several corded drills, one a 1980’s Black&Decker 😂 but 2 are more recent quite powerful Milwaukee drills, and when drilling other stuff like stone with them, having a keyed chuck is indispensable.

  • @huejanus5505

    @huejanus5505

    7 ай бұрын

    I use my 12v milwaukee driver for most less than construction grade work. It’s light, small and fairly strong, excels at finer tasks, but for a 2.5-3” screw it’s not practical. Impacts are kind of noisy, you don’t get a good feel of how much torque is being applied to a screw, but it’s still the right tool for the bigger stuff.

  • @realVertiqo
    @realVertiqoАй бұрын

    Magnetic _locking_ bitholder from Wera (Germany) is sublime.

  • @ahpp96
    @ahpp96 Жыл бұрын

    I have a Bosch 12v impact and driver combo set. I use them both all the time with wood working. The impact is great for counter sinking, and I can use the variable trigger to make sure I don't drive thru the wood, it's all in the use of the tool.

  • @conrat2000
    @conrat2000 Жыл бұрын

    Great video and thank you for making it! There are bit holders that you pull out, put the bit in, and push it back in. They don't fall out. I have two. I agree the magnetic ones aren't desirable.

  • @awlthatwoodcrafts8911
    @awlthatwoodcrafts8911 Жыл бұрын

    My dad had a Craftsman drill from 1962. I wasn't strong enough to lift it until 1972. I had a B&D drill that I bought in the mid-80's. I had it until about 4 years ago. It was variable speed but very hard to control. I can't believe I waited so long to buy a "modern" drill.

  • @6point5
    @6point5 Жыл бұрын

    Well i'm glad i'm not the only other fanboy of Dewalt from watching Mike Holmes on HGTV. :)

  • @ralphlivingston894
    @ralphlivingston894 Жыл бұрын

    Great video! I got a set of DeWalt 24 V drill/impact driver about six months ago. I kept trying to swap the impact driver with friends for… Just about anything. Unfortunately, everybody bought the same set. Thanks to your video, I am rethinking my view on impact drivers.… I especially enjoyed “I’m the life of the party”😂 informative video… Keep it up.

  • @xathridtech727
    @xathridtech7277 ай бұрын

    Look at the wera quick release it keeps the bits perfectly

  • @jack504
    @jack5047 ай бұрын

    I got an M18 fid2 impact driver this year. I've had a quick release M18 drill for 6 years. I definitely find myself going for the impact driver when dealing with screws. I usually keep it on setting 1. Recently laid a new subfloor, 18mm ply onto old beams, 5mm x 80mm screws. Used setting 2 for speed and grenaded 4 Milwaukee brand bits in an hour. I see why they put multiple in a box now. Got the job done and no broken screws at least.

  • @jamessukup
    @jamessukup3 ай бұрын

    The impact is amazing with a hole saw, it just doesn't try to break your wrist in the first place. I think the Impact excels anywhere binding could happen but you still want to power through it. If you don't want to power through it, the drill is nice because of the clutch. always use the right tool for the job!

  • @COJellyfish
    @COJellyfish7 ай бұрын

    M12 Installation Drill/Driver for the win for all my precision work.

  • @michaelpoczynek
    @michaelpoczynek2 ай бұрын

    Well done video, thanks.

  • @MusiclyJorge
    @MusiclyJorge7 ай бұрын

    I'm using impact in the factory/workshop in almost all scenarios.... We're working with CNC because we're making lots of projects, So the CNC operator gets all the wood ready (Plywood, Hardwood or MDF for doors, Depends on the client idea/request) Then it goes into the painting room/oven and when we do pre-assembly (Before it goes into the client for installation) we're doing everything with impacts, Drawers, Shelfs, Hangers, Boxings and everything in between... Also If we touch impact subject I can say from long time experience that Makita impacts very reliable, Working non-stop without issues...

  • @patrickfrost4338
    @patrickfrost4338 Жыл бұрын

    I need an impact. I love the quick release and also the shorter nose helps get into places the long nose of the drill cant. Plus when im working on a piece having one rig set up to drill and 1 set up to secure cuts down how much i need to change.

  • @tonyroane
    @tonyroane Жыл бұрын

    Seriously sick animation bro! Seriously!

  • @mrki412
    @mrki4127 ай бұрын

    Mister I just discovered this channel, great stuff.

  • @kovie9162
    @kovie9162 Жыл бұрын

    I like to think of impact tools as the mechanical analog to pulse width modulation (or PWM) in electronic circuits, an alternative and in many ways superior way to get as much power from a power source and to finely control the power going into the "load" as possible, be it a screw going into wood or an LED light source. Often it's preferable to finely controlling a continuous power supply.

  • @johnbrentford5513
    @johnbrentford551313 күн бұрын

    If you hit something like a knot in the wood the impact driver will start impacting breaking the screw or bit.

  • @iplayzthegames6968
    @iplayzthegames696811 ай бұрын

    You're right with the amount. Even on site, can't say I've ever had more than 2 drills, an impact and an SDS all in the same place at once and that has only happened a handful of times

  • @Griffinwoodworks
    @Griffinwoodworks Жыл бұрын

    I use the m18 fuel impact and drill and I’ve only broken 1 screw head, and that was right after I got it and was just testing it out. Since then, I have hardly took it out of speed 2 and use trigger discipline to not over or under drive them. I know this video is geared more toward beginners, which is why I think the variable speed trigger and trigger discipline shouldn’t be overlooked when learning how to use impacts.

  • @toastyghostyofdeath3909

    @toastyghostyofdeath3909

    Жыл бұрын

    Same. First tools i ever spent actual money on. Though i got them for fixs around my rv and car.

  • @artv4nd3l4y
    @artv4nd3l4y Жыл бұрын

    Good information overall on this one, definitely helpful to those not as familiar with these things.

  • @boreragnarok
    @boreragnarok25 күн бұрын

    1:19 That WAS a great impression lol

  • @TinusBruins
    @TinusBruins Жыл бұрын

    I find it funny that I never heard of impact drivers until I started watching build video's from overseas.

  • @luiscardozo0000

    @luiscardozo0000

    5 ай бұрын

    sure you never heard ...probably you never been in a garage or remove a car wheel...its stupid to say that.. you never heard the noise of an air impact gun at the mechanic shop?

  • @scottyofeden
    @scottyofeden11 ай бұрын

    "Sick animation bro" It's the little things that get me

  • @michaelkulman7095
    @michaelkulman709512 күн бұрын

    The same style bit holder is available for drills. I just use two drills or a bit holder that lets me switch from drill bit to drive bit easily. I like two drills as I have a clutch to drive screws... I like the clutch...

  • @dfs7979
    @dfs7979 Жыл бұрын

    DeWalt makes a nice 1" bit holder that retains them. Model is DWA3HLDFT.

  • @ScottWalshWoodworking

    @ScottWalshWoodworking

    Жыл бұрын

    just ordered it if I don't like it, I'm coming to find you 😁

  • @godsfilmmaker8863
    @godsfilmmaker88634 ай бұрын

    “That was a better impression that I though 😀“ instant like 👍🏻

  • @MsJfraser
    @MsJfraser7 ай бұрын

    I use a #2 Robertson bit running the screw in with a drill and then tightening the screw by hand with a screwdriver.

  • @qaszim2012
    @qaszim20127 ай бұрын

    Impact driver is probably my most used tool, just got to have decent trigger control.

  • @lukedogwalker
    @lukedogwalker Жыл бұрын

    For many years I had a hammer drill and a drill/driver and this was fine. I could use one for piloting and one for screwing. I added a small 12v for tight spaces. Then I tried an impact driver... ... and after a couple of uses it sits on the shelf, gathering dust.

  • @richpeggyfranks490
    @richpeggyfranks490 Жыл бұрын

    I use a drill with a screwdriver clutch, a dedicated screwdriver with a quick-change bit holder (very good clutch) and an impact driver. These 3 tools meet nearly all drilling/driving needs in the shop and operate on the the 12 volt Dewalt battery platform. In addition, I have Milwaukee M18 hammer drill and M18 impact driver for heavier work (framing, deck, etc.). Thanks.

  • @daishan1981
    @daishan19816 ай бұрын

    I love my impact, but if your main reason to use one is the bit holder (and you can't find a good "magnetic" one for your drill) just get a Wera Rapidaptor or similar. My small 12V Bosch "Flexiclick" has a bit holder chuck too, doesn't DeWalt do a version of that, if it has to be yellow and black?

  • @cafecybernz
    @cafecybernz Жыл бұрын

    I fitted my drills (antique manual and modern powered) with a Wera Rapidaptor 5052502001 889/4/1 K, allowing me to change screwdriver bits super quickly while making sure they don't get stuck in the fasteners. I also purchased a set of drill bits with hex shank, so that I can keep the Wera Rapidaptor on my drills at all time (Hex shank drill bits are better than rounded shank ones anyway, as they rotate less in a drill when the chuck gets loose.)

  • @kylorens9537
    @kylorens9537Ай бұрын

    The makita magnetic bitholder locks the bit in the holder enough so it wont fall out or stay in the screw, switching the bits is also easy with a push/pull ring to release the bit. Solves the problem at 1:13

  • @brucesturtevantwoodworking
    @brucesturtevantwoodworking Жыл бұрын

    I love my impact driver too. For bigger screws it is much better than a drill motor.

  • @nolansprojects2840
    @nolansprojects28407 ай бұрын

    For a quick change bit that doesn’t leave the bit in the screw, use a wera quick change hex adapter. They work great!

  • @nolansprojects2840

    @nolansprojects2840

    6 ай бұрын

    @@waynebrown7065 Not essential, but it helps to give a bit more space, making things a little easier. Cheap kits from a local hardware store will most likely come with a simple adapter like seen in the video.

  • @donalkelly7627
    @donalkelly76272 ай бұрын

    Get a Wera bit holder. It holds the bit in place, they're fantastic

  • @HBSuccess
    @HBSuccess Жыл бұрын

    Almost never use a regular handheld drill these days. Impact driver does a fine job drilling holes in anything I need to drill.

  • @Xizax41325
    @Xizax413256 ай бұрын

    I work at a crate shop and we pretty much only use impacts. I just tap the trigger to get the screw the final bit that I need. That being said, it's crates so it doesn't need to look pretty or anything of the sort and we use the duct tape of the screw world (drywall).

  • @jordanhanash
    @jordanhanashАй бұрын

    not only does the impact hammer rotationally, but also axially simultaneously which is what really prevents it from caming out.

  • @shubhammajumdar8762
    @shubhammajumdar87623 ай бұрын

    Very good tools

  • @aussie4047
    @aussie4047Ай бұрын

    Irwin makes a locking bit holder that works well over the magnetic ones

  • @velcroman11
    @velcroman11 Жыл бұрын

    A very useful video. I have aways avoided my impact drill. I may change.

  • @KilianGosewisch
    @KilianGosewisch7 ай бұрын

    i was surprised to find out you use squares in america. never held one in my live! we mainly use torx here in germany

  • @TwistyTex
    @TwistyTex Жыл бұрын

    I recently added a Dewalt compact driver (non impact) with chuck and quick change to my drill/driver collection, the "DEWALT XTREME 12V MAX* Cordless Screwdriver, 1/4-Inch (DCF601B)". I use both 12V and 20V in my shop (and a cordless festool track saw)... so having a nice lightweight driver with quick change and no impact has been very nice.

  • @thomasgilliam3104
    @thomasgilliam3104 Жыл бұрын

    That's why I like the 887 tightens it down just right and shuts off on you.

  • @samueladams584
    @samueladams584 Жыл бұрын

    I got great discounts on the DeWalt XR drill and later the new atomic impact. Both came w batteries and were on sale. I also got the Makita rear handle circ saw 7 1/4 on sale and recently the compact 4+1/2" DeWalt saw. Handy device. I use the impact w wood but I'm not a professional, just home improvement and hobby

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