The Turks have looked after our fallen soldiers like their own. Much respect from Australia 🇦🇺

@zekejones2249

3 жыл бұрын

We will see how long that continues under Erdogan and the Islamic extremists.

@thefatping3688

3 жыл бұрын

respect to mr bishop from turkey

@rickmurray442

3 жыл бұрын

@Alexander Ward yep, all the ANZACS.

@talhac1923

3 жыл бұрын

Im glad to say that erdogan will be gone in the next election (2023) :)

@talhac1923

3 жыл бұрын

@Alexander Ward there is an election upcoming in 2023 and he will no longer be president

He didn't actually give a reason for why the campaign failed. 1: The Turks knew about it months before it happened. When the ships sailed for Turkey from Egypt, people were holding banners that read " Good Luck in Gallipoli " 2: There was ZERO reconnaisance done of the landing beaches. No maps were available for the troops that survived the initial landings so they couldn't provide targeting information to the battleships anchored offshore, or find their way through the ravines and razorback ridges. 3: There were no boats moored to guide the landing tugs in. 4: The British Generals has zero respect for their Turkish enemy and expected them to run or surrender at the first shot. 5: There were many well sited machineguns facing the landing ship.... not just riflemen. 6: The Turks had better Generals and suicidally brave soldiers.7: The British General Commanding was 61 years old and had not had a combat command since the Boer War. He also had a sore knee and stayed aboard a ship, with the only communication available being rowboats that brought hopelessly out of date messages. He was asleep on board at the time of the landing at Suvla Bay. Lest We Forget.

@Raven.flight

2 жыл бұрын

Anyone would think that it wasn't well planned.

@stephenlitten1789

2 жыл бұрын

You left out a salient detail - the campaign was organised by the RN

@alanbingham5883

2 жыл бұрын

Also, the British had tried naval penetration with warships, losing several and had also tried naval bombardment of shore installations. Several failed attempts so the Turks expected an attack.

@mehmetakif5842

2 жыл бұрын

Dude, pick up number 5. Never underestimate Any people who defend their families, cause they have a real reason to fight and eventually die. Furthermore Turks have a military history of over 2000 years, they are brave people with pride who would never surrender.

@anaussie213

2 жыл бұрын

@@alanbingham5883 yep the anzacs were used as cannon fodder to clear the strait of artillery which were playing havoc on the RN minesweepers (who were attempting to clear mines which had played havoc on the RN’s precious, yet outdated, battleships).

My great grandfather was a technical expert who was send to help defend Gallipoli as part of the German detachment. He actually received a medal from the Ottomans, which is still in the family. After the war he was detained in Constantinople by the British. Situation there was apparently a lot better than in Germany at the time and he was pretty free to roam around the city, so he didn't mind that much.

@truthlifefishing1730

Жыл бұрын

mmmmm. interesting. Have you watched the 3 part series by (type in) The Corbett Report Extras The WW1 Conspiracy (Full Documentary | 2018) ? PS I love Germany and know the history of your great nation quite well. Please watch the documentary.

@samuelphillips4258

12 күн бұрын

My great great great grandfather was fighting at Gallipoli to in the Anzac forces

My grandfather was at the Dardanelles. When he reached his anecdotage he would tell me his life story over and over but he never, ever, spoke of it. He would get to the point where he would say "And they shipped us off to the Dardanelles..." and he would grow silent for a few minutes before restarting his story with his return home.

I visited Gallipoli in 2019. My Grandfather came here in 1915 with the Wellingtons in the NZ Division and made it briefly to the top of Chunak Bair. I was very impressed with how the Turks have kept the graves of their enemies so beautiful. I said this to our host in Eceabat "We are Muslims," he said "We must honour our enemies."

@ugurrr

2 жыл бұрын

I don't think it has anything to do about being Muslim. This is a result of Atatürk's "Peace at home, peace in the world" policy. You can also read the letter he wrote to the mothers of the fallen.

@keithtonkin6959

2 жыл бұрын

@@ugurrr Yes. You're probably right. We in New Zealand know his letter to the mothers of the fallen very well. "Your sons are our sons etc" He is well respected here too. I also read it at the Turkish Cemetery at Gallipoli.

@abdulmajidi7416

Жыл бұрын

@@ugurrr osmanlıyı karalamaya çalışan kemalist olur gibi

@infeedel7706

Жыл бұрын

I was on the beach at the Dawn service in 99'. My Grandfather was a medic at the Somme, I was raised in Australia and remember being a banner carrier as a cadet in the 1970s when there were still Veterans of this campaign at our ANZAC day marches. The thing that struck me that day during the 7 or so services I attended was the Turkish memorial and the regard Kemal Attaturk had for his country's invaders and their bravery when he wrote the letter telling the mothers their sons would be held in the bosom of their people. I cried. The sad thing is our politicians fail to understand and respect War and continue to create them due to their own greed and vanity whilst kissing the heels of the self appointed World leader.

@intelligenthorsemanshipwit1330

2 ай бұрын

The graves at Gallipoli are not maintained by the Turks. They are maintained, like those in France, Burma, Egypt and elsewhere, by the CWGC, the Commonwealth War Graves Commission.

"Those heroes that shed their blood and lost their lives... you are now lying in the soil of a friendly country. Therefore rest in peace. There is no difference between the Johnnies and the Mehmets to us where they lie side by side here in this country of ours... You the mothers who sent their sons from far away countries wipe away your tears. Your sons are now lying in our bosom and are in peace. After having lost their lives on this land they have become our sons as well." Mustafa Kemal Atatürk

@sulistyopudjo6433

3 жыл бұрын

This is the best quote in the world of agony by Turks Mustapha Kamal. Means the both side were heroes

@garrylane1

3 жыл бұрын

Atatürk was a great statesman.

@sqnhunter

3 жыл бұрын

@@sulistyopudjo6433 It does....he was not only a great statesman...but he stood in front of those men he complemented, and knew the worth of both sides better than anyone else. Its a real man who can praise his enemy for his courage, after loosing so much to them. Its called respect!

@ShiftingDrifter

3 жыл бұрын

I've visited a lot of battlefields having grown up near Gettysburg, Pennsylvania, and not easily prone-to-tears, but when I visited Gelibolu and read this inscription at the memorial I could not speak for the huge lump in my throat. Now whenever I think of Lincoln's Gettysburg Address, I'm reminded of this quote by Mustafa Kemal as well. I like to think Lincoln would have quickly tipped his stove-pipe hat to Kamal in honor of such a touching sentiment.

@anthonyeaton5153

2 жыл бұрын

He also included British troops.

An interesting historical fact about this military campaign from the Turkish side is that Mustafa Kemal Ataturk, as a young Lt. Col., was given the command of the 19th Reserve Division, situated quite near to Gallipoli. At the beginning of the campaign, he was stationed in Bulgaria and he asked for a transfer to the war zone. The chief of general staff, Enver Pasha, who knew Mustafa Kemal's accomplishments and his leadership qualities, saw him as a rival despite the fact that his rank was much lower. Thus, he sent him to Gallipoli, where the landings were not expected at all. The Turkish General Staff together with the Germans thought that the Allies would land further north in the Gulf of Saros and that's where they were waiting with most of their troops. However, in the very early hours of April 25, 1915, when the first Ally troops landed in Gallipoli, a Turkish obsevation post gave information of suspicious enemy activity to the nearest military camp, which was the 19th Reserve Division of Mustafa Kemal. He instantly knew that this was the main landing and mobilized his 57th Regiment of 2000 men. He had them sneak into Gallipoli without being seen by the enemy while it was dark and without informing higher command of what he was doing because of some news of suspicious enemy activity. He knew that going through channels would cost him precious time, which he hadn't. In his memories he recalls, "when we had finally reached the landing spot in the early morning, the enemy was much closer to me than my regiment that was still taking its position." There he gave his famous command, "I order you not to fight but to die. In the time that it takes us to die, our forces and commanders will come and take our place." This tactical order of him was given because of the desperate situation in which they were. The main landing of the Allies had started and the headquarters of the Turkish Army with its divisions was many miles away. He changed the course of the war all by himself, and may they rest in peace, all 2000 soldiers of the 57th Regiment gave their lives.

@raya4358

3 жыл бұрын

I have visited Turkey several times. The Turkey of today is a far cry from the nation that Ataturk helped to create. Turkey today is an Islamic dictatorship under Erdogan. It persecutes Christians and seeks to drive the. Out of the country. Why did the Turkish people abandon the modern republic that Ataturk founded for an Islamic dictatorship that is turning Turkey back hundreds of years?

@sqnhunter

3 жыл бұрын

The Gallipoli landing was said to be complete fuck up...but bear in mind it was Churchill himself who masterminded this invasion. Just as Ataturk was there on his part, so as not to have any real battle to fight...I am of the opinion that Churchill knew damn well where he was dropping these soldiers off...and did so as a decoy to allow British troops to walk ashore further along the coast. He never expected the untested Australians to put in such a stellar performance and stay put, hence the reinforcing began. But then...there stood Ataturk up front also. Two great nations came out of one historical fuckup.

@anthonyeaton5153

2 жыл бұрын

@@sqnhunter with respect you are talking twaddle. Churchill thought up the scheme but it was the generals and admirals who worked out the battle plan but which still made Churchill responsible. The landing at Anzac was unopposed. As for the British walking ashore, 6 VCs were won when the British landed. Where do you learn your history.

@anthonyeaton5153

2 жыл бұрын

@@sqnhunter you will be pleased to know that later in the campaign Aussies soldiers refused to attack from the trenches as they were scared. You had you share of cowards.

@iancooll12

2 жыл бұрын

@@anthonyeaton5153 , I think that's called common sense, not cowardice, you can't blame them for not wanting to die needlessly, for the obvious stupidity of British Generals and Staff Officers. To accuse these men of cowardice is shameful, and reflects more the attitudes of those times, leading to greater and greater losses.

I was in Turkey, Gallipoli in 1990. Just that terrain brought tears to my eyes. Having had a great uncle serve in France in WW1, then my late father & five uncles in WW2, I guess I got some kind of understanding of what ALL of them went through. The Turks were only defending their homeland. I said it at the time & I still say it, the Turkish people were the nicest, kindest & respectful people I’d ever met, during my backpacking through Asia & Europe. I hope to come back one day when we can safeLy travel without covid. Respect & love from Australia 🇦🇺👍🏼♥️

@PsilocybinCocktail

3 жыл бұрын

Turkish people are some of the nicest people on the planet. It's in their bones. Remember what Mustafa Kemal said about ANZAC casualties shortly after the war; it wasn't mere hyperbole.

@sqnhunter

3 жыл бұрын

@@PsilocybinCocktail These being the same nice people who built the ottoman Empire on a caliphate? Is it the same people you are calling kind? These "nice people may have been fighting to protect land...but it was land stolen of others. If you reread your history about Constantinople, you would realize the horrors these people created for the world. Syria today...the 600 year old ottoman empire, The armenian Genocide, and so on. The One man...tired of war and mayhem...does not represent Turkish people as a whole. Are they honorable people . Yes. That they were....but don't mix that up with "nice" people. The history of the ottoman empire was not Hyperbole either...as any Anzac that fought in the middle east and that was at the charge on Beersheba could well have told you. I live in Mexico these days...And here are some of the nicest people you will ever meet too. But we all know what happens when the lights go down and the killing starts. They are only nice because you are a tourist and they need what you have. Its the way of the world...and of mankind!

@danrooc

3 жыл бұрын

@@PsilocybinCocktail Oh yes, it's in their bones. Lovely turks. kzread.info/dash/bejne/dKt7w8GLYMzbhLQ.html (18:00)

@sqnhunter

3 жыл бұрын

@Kayra Kara I am not a victim of Turkey...but many of the middle east were victims of them...and many are today..... it is turkey that needs to get out of others gardens...or it will be beersheba and Jerusalem all over again. One battle isn't anything...the war is what Turkey lost in 1917..... along with their oh so magnificent empire of hate and hurt. There was a reason anzacs came to your land in the first world war....and a reason why your great nation paid such a terrible price in the end. We didnt act all cowardly and ask you to leave....we ended up kicking your butts all over the place. Only victims was Turkey. You know what a turkey is, right?

@sbd03

2 жыл бұрын

@@sqnhunter shut up kid

I am Turkish and now I live in Australia. I love Aussie people and they are very nice people :)

@heathbeveridge9449

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks mate good on ya mate

@BuzzLightyear9999

3 жыл бұрын

Mate, you quite rightly say you are Turkish, but as far as we’re concerned, you’re also an Aussie champ...!👍

@anthonyeaton5153

3 жыл бұрын

Some Aussies aren't nice.

@CharieFurlonger

3 жыл бұрын

@@anthonyeaton5153 I think that's common sense bro

@gdubsterz1238

3 жыл бұрын

They are awesome. It goes to show us all how war is not of our invention but made by those who would exploit the citizenry for the worst of reasons.

I was in Gallipoli in 1980, & if there was any piece of land that was the worst place for the ANZACs to land it was Anzac Cove, & it was all Churchill's fault, he picked the site. However, the Turkish people made us very welcome, & have looked after the graves of all the fallen, theirs & ours, with great care. My personal thanks to every Turkish person who has cared for this site for the last 100 years plus.

@ezgidemir3843

Жыл бұрын

Turkler hic savas istemedi ancak kendini savundu

my great grandfather was killed on april 27th and buried there in turkey aged 23

@peacemaker2988

4 жыл бұрын

respect from turkey bro don't worry he is been well looked after....

@eomerthe6th952

4 жыл бұрын

Respect from Istanbul

@1337fraggzb00N

3 жыл бұрын

There is no good time to get killed at all, but being only 23 years old is definitely too young. Sorry for your loss.

@oaooo8691

3 жыл бұрын

Turkey is guarding him for all eternity like a son. RIP

@sneakysnek8416

3 жыл бұрын

@@1337fraggzb00N a lot of very young people died from both sides at the Gallipoli campaign. For example 15 year old students had to fight there

My great uncle was there with the Lancashire Fusiliers. Awarded the DCM for bravery and was wounded. He thankfully survived and I knew him as a young boy.

Was in Gallipoli last year amazing place, an honour to visit and the Turkish people were the nicest people on Earth. #lestweforget

@yigit3143

3 жыл бұрын

Hello from Turkey. I lived 7 years in Gelibolu and loves for Aus. Respects.

@7john7able

3 жыл бұрын

You need to travel more.

@sqnhunter

3 жыл бұрын

You only meet the nice ones bro...the government purposely keeps the major population away from the visitors to stop their rising antagonism towards the west with a new onslaught of radical islam running the country.

@olliemoriarty8099

3 жыл бұрын

I used to go to Turkey every year. The people are so nice and love tourists. Thank you Turkey.

@yalnzali848

2 жыл бұрын

Turkiye'den selam anzak ve Türk şehitlerinin ruhu şad olsun 🇦🇺🇹🇷🇹🇷🇦🇺

My great uncle was here with the Canterbury Mounted Rifle Regiment. His name was George, like so many others he never made it back from this place, he was 27. Greetings from NZ.

@mrrooftopkorean146

3 жыл бұрын

Kiwis be born and bred fighters Respect

@robertspence831

3 жыл бұрын

RIP, Uncle George.

@scientistx5717

2 жыл бұрын

My great grandfather was a turkish soldier in gallipoli he lost his right arm in the war but survived

My father was on Gallipoli as a stretcher bearer working at casualty clearing stations. He was on the last boat to leave at the evacuation and was asked to stay on incase of casualties at the end. His work with Bob Hawke and the Turkish government led to the official naming of ANZAC Cove on all maps. He was secretary of the Gallipoli Legion of Anzacs for many years in Sydney and lived until 1985. He also saw the western front after Gallipoli with the 14th Field ambulance (55th battalion). My sister and I, along with my wife went to Gallipoli for the 100th commemoration in 2015. One is surprised at how small the area is that was under constant fire. Once there, the troops had no respite and it amazed us all at how anyone survived. My dad also held the Turks in high esteem and being honourable and at the 70th commemoration when he went back with the official party for that commemoration he was able to meet with Turkish veterans. What an awful fiasco. Lest we forget.

@andreasschmidt2739

Жыл бұрын

@ Alan Bingham If your father was there how old are you then ?

@alanbingham5883

Жыл бұрын

@@andreasschmidt2739 78

@andreasschmidt2739

Жыл бұрын

@@alanbingham5883 I see. Even its from second hand its quite intriguing to listen to such stories.Thank you for sharing your story. And by the way today I have finished the german wikipedia article about Anzac cove landing.

My paternal grandfather lied about his age to join up and was at Gallipoli when he was 16. He survived and was sent to the Western Front, where he was wounded on the Somme. Different generation...

@traceylowe1576

3 жыл бұрын

Same here his wasn’t accepted here so went to New Zealand 🇳🇿

@sqnhunter

3 жыл бұрын

My grandfather signed up when he was just 14 in 1915. They found out...yet assigned him to navy and kept him on safe shipping most of the time. they knew he would just go and join at another recruiting station like so many other young ones. He survived thanks to compassionate types back then. Many not so lucky.

@anthonyeaton5153

2 жыл бұрын

Most definitely a different generation. About twenty years I would say.😏

@whitetroutchannel

2 жыл бұрын

my great grandfather was a reg. in 1914 and ended up in turkey and northern france too he was 38 at the time, i think he had served time in the boer before that

My grandfather was part of the British army at Gallipoli. Landed at Suvla Bay. Badly injured, lost an eye, invalided back to England via Malta. Lived until he was 94. Now I know this was a campaign when the Australian troops suffered. But did you know more French soldiers died in the Gallipoli campaign than Australians?

@Kemalist0008

11 ай бұрын

Eh then they should've stayed on their own land

Thank you once more History Hit. My Great Grandfather was in the “Dub’s”, and landed on Gallipoli from the “River Clyde”. He survived the horrors of the landing and managed to huddle some how on the beach. He had already fought in Europe by this stage, and went on to live through the whole of the War. My uncle asked him how he did it, the answer was “I could crawl, slide and slither lower than anybody else !” He spoke about how the officers on the River Clyde shot anyone who refused to disembark down the gang plank , which was under heavy fire. Hard stuff, tough people. War is just nasty, plain and simple.

Anzac Cove is a beautiful beach but when you look up at the cliffs you just think sheer madness.

@harrycurrie9664

3 жыл бұрын

Yes, and it was no other than Winston Churchill who put them there.

@grassic

3 жыл бұрын

It was sheer madness, but they landed in the wrong place. They were supposed to land a south at Gaba Tepe where the terrain was less harsh and there was more or less flat land to the other coast. You can blame Churchill and more so the commanders for a lot, but not a mistake made in the dark by the men on the ground.

@torinjones3221

2 жыл бұрын

@@harrycurrie9664 I just feel bad for the Frenchies. Lost more soldiers than the Aussies but get literally zero recognition. Bet you didn't even know they were there.

@Guzunderstrop

2 жыл бұрын

@@grassic Good point. Also it gave the Anzacs a fighting chance to move inland as the Turks had not identified it as a suitable point for making a landing. For this reason it was not well defended. Had the Anzacs landed where they had planned to, they would have received a welcome like the English regiments did at Cape Helles.

@daviddogan7383

Ай бұрын

To me England was terrorist still is.Anzac people can see that I hope

my great grandfather landed here with the 1st inniskilling fusiliers in the british 29th div. he was injured and lay in no-mans for 3 days before being picked up by stretchers, he was put on a hospital boat to egypt, by the time he recoverd the gallipoli campaign was over and he was shipped off to the somme for july 1916, he was shot in the neck and survived and was sent back home to county down he died from the neck wound in 1919

I'm a new Zealander . My grandfather fought and died here at age of 17

My great grandfather was part of the Lancashire Fusiliers at W beach during the Gallipoli campaign, he was wounded four seperate times in the 8 month campaign in one his best friend unfortunately didn't survive being blown up by an artillery shell and in another he had one of his little fingers shot off. He went on to fight at the Somme and Passchendaele winning a military medal for taking out a German machine gun nest that was holding up their regiment in the later.

My great-grandfather took a Turkish bullet in 1917, on Umbrella Hill, during a night-op of the 3rd Battle of Gaza. Deep racism and maybe hint of war-time 'spin' has led to the notion, even to this day, that Turkish people and their fighters are lesser beings. The Turkish nation had a huge, enlightened and stable empire and they are hard, clever, passionate people. Considering the odds, the ANZACs achieved much during that nasty campaign. Never forget.

@Original50

3 жыл бұрын

It's not about the cause or doctrine, Kayra, but the senseless waste of young men. All men. 66,000 Turkish soldiers troops lost their lives in the defence of Gallipoli and they have the fine and deserved Çanakkale Martyrs' memorial at Cape Helles. My great-grandfather died fighting the Turks outside Jerusalem, where no Scotsman, Turk or German belonged. It is almost certain the Turkish soldier who killed him, died too. Human zero-sum. This is the reason that the concept of the Unknown Soldier is so powerful. He represents all soldiers. When a politician dies, one man dies. When a politician starts a war, an entire generation of men die. Bad maths...

Who here is New Zealanders or Australian?

@eomerthe6th952

4 жыл бұрын

I'm turkish

@alltorkadventures1139

4 жыл бұрын

🙋‍♂️🇦🇺🇦🇺

@mrtwich2083

4 жыл бұрын

@@alltorkadventures1139 nz gooooo

@okhomit

3 жыл бұрын

Aye

@wetdog_8887

3 жыл бұрын

🇦🇺 all the way

Geldiler gördüler gittiler.

Over half these casualties (73,485) were British and Irish troops. New Zealand suffered around 8000 killed and wounded, about 5.6 percent of Allied casualties on Gallipoli.

@Gfdsa40

4 жыл бұрын

1500 Indians as well on the otherside of the Dardanelles

@Dom-fx4kt

4 жыл бұрын

That's true. My great grandfather was 2nd lieutenant in the Royal Munster Fusiliers. 2/3 of them became causalities. My great grandfather was wounded in action after his patrol was nearly wiped out. He was shot in the upper chin and another bullet lodged in the chest, which was never removed. He survived after 10 weeks in hospital, the bullet to chin came at an angle too. He was then sent to the western front and was in the later stage of the Somme many other big battles of 1916/17.

@winterwolf9797

3 жыл бұрын

thank you!! some one knows there history, they seem to forget that British and Irish troops were there!! as well as Indians, thanks mate!!

@djharto4917

3 жыл бұрын

Yes that is correct thousands of Irish were wasted at the start of the campaign then the hierarchy decided too waste the anzacs.

@holdfast7657

3 жыл бұрын

French also.

One of the best breakdowns of a campaign that I've watched. Beautiful, mate,

These words attributed to Ataturk are inscribed on a memorial at ANZAC Cove "Those heroes that shed their blood and lost their lives; You are now lying in the soil of a friendly country. Therefore rest in peace. There is no difference between the Johnnies and the Mehmets to us where they lie side by side here in this country of ours. You, the mothers, who sent their sons from far away countries, wipe away your tears; your sons are now lying in our bosom and are in peace. After having lost their lives on this land they have become our sons as well." Ataturk, 1934

"They shall not grow old, as we, who are left grow old, Age shall not weary them, nor, the years contemn, But, at the going-down of the Sun, and in the morning, we will remember them: We WILL Remember Them." --- Laurence Binyon. With Eternal Respect to My ANZAC Cousins, Kind and Respectful Regards, Uyraell, NZ.

@adriang6259

4 жыл бұрын

We will remember them

@1337fraggzb00N

3 жыл бұрын

There is also an interesting movie about WWI named "They Shall Not Grow Old".

2022 our first ANZAC DAY at Gallipoli in two years. We will always remember them. Watch the live telecast and it was so serene hearing the soft lap of water upon the shore. A perfect resting place for our ANZAC. I served in the Aust Army for 4 years and joined at the age of 47. It was the best experience of my life and Proud of the Catafalque parties I was involved in and ANZAC DAY MARCHES IN SYDNEY. Very Proud to be 🇦🇺 Australian.

5:48 you should definitely visit Arco, south Tirol (Italy). I've hiked through the bunkers looking down the mountains to the flat ground. I think the decision of attacking Austria was taken by someone who has never been there. The height difference is so large that even Anakin would try it :D

@gigachad1159

2 жыл бұрын

“Dont try it ı have the higher ground” :)

I’ve read a lot of the history of Gallipoli campaign before I visited Turkey in 2015 and believe me when I toured the battlefield’s of Gallipoli the hairs on my neck stood up. At Lone Pine I shed tears imagining the carnage and struggle of the ANZACs as they stormed up the steep slopes to engage Turkish troops defending it.

Been there. Anzac graves are very well looked after. Top job

Basically once the trenches were dug from Switzerland to the Baltic, the war was a stalemate until the invention and deployment of the tank. Both sides would have done much better to have called it off and gone back to the peace talks. The premise of WW1 was idiotic from the get go, and the endless slaughter set up Europe for WW2.

@XaviRonaldo0

3 жыл бұрын

The treaty of Versailles was the main cause of WW2. Without it the German people wouldn't have needed a saviour and the Nazis wouldn't have come to power.

@BroadHobbyProjects

2 жыл бұрын

@@XaviRonaldo0 There is a lot more to that than you think. You had monsters in high circles (like Richard Counehoven Kalergi) who were planning things a certain man didn't like. Which led to his bitterness of what happened during the first World War and those who in all essence forced it to happen grew.

@torinjones3221

2 жыл бұрын

No, the treaty of Versailles, Trianon, Saint Germain and Neuilly set up for WW2.

@torinjones3221

2 жыл бұрын

@@XaviRonaldo0 in the words of Brennus "Vae Victis!"

@backstabingpike

2 жыл бұрын

Tanks came on the battlefield by 1916, and they still fought for two more years 😂

Thank you for this Video,Peace for Ever

An excellent video. Dan Snow's great grandfather Capt. Carey Evans of the Indian Medical Service was a Doctor at Gallipoli. His unit provided medical support for the Indian Artillery, who used mules to transport their guns and ammunition. The ANZAC hero John Simpson Kirkpatrick camped with the Indian's because they had large quantites of animal fodder. The Indian troops refered to him as a 'bahadur' - meaning 'the bravest of the brave', because of his many escapes when carrying wounded men to safety on the back of his donkey.

@whitetroutchannel

2 жыл бұрын

everyone knows the kirkpatricks/kilpatricks are known heroes, 👍👍👍👍

I don't watch to video but i want to say something about this war. We just fighted for our independence. We just defend our lands. We kill a lot of Anzac and they kill our soldiers. But Anzacs have our respect because they fighted with their honor. They wasn't our enemy, our enemy was UK but they send to Anzacs.. Two oppressed nation killed themselfs.UK just watched this war. This is really sad. They said to Anzacs "Turks are cannibal, if you don't kill them, they will eat you"... This words from Anzac soldier's memory books.. This is terrible.. Anyways, Anzacs always have our respect, our great leader Mustafa Kemal Atatürk(Commander of our independence War) said something for Anzacs : Those heroes that shed their blood and lost their lives. You are now living in the soil of a friendly country therefore rest in peace. There is no difference between the Johnnies and the Mehmets to us where they lie side by side here in this country of ours. You, the mothers, who sent their sons from faraway countries wipe away your tears; your sons are now lying in our bosom and are in peace. After having lost their lives on this land they have become our sons as well.

@dragonba2883

9 жыл бұрын

Awsome!

@Stratahoovius

9 жыл бұрын

Savunma Sanayii Gönüllüleri Thank you very much. :)

@turkishturk4907

8 жыл бұрын

ve yine yine yine Türkler her yerde!

@jetcops21_98

8 жыл бұрын

The UK just killed our troops and men but for some reason no one is angry at them

@fabianpatrizio2865

8 жыл бұрын

+xxxZOMBOYxxx Not true....all Australians were volunteers. One of the only countries that didn't employ the use of conscripts for the entire war.

Did you guys also know that the first dawn service was not held until three years after the Gallipoli landings and the first dawn service in Australia was held in Brisbane

@sqnhunter

3 жыл бұрын

That could be because the world was in the middle of the great war! recon it has something to do with it. :P

Those heroes that shed their blood and lost their lives... You are now lying in the soil of a friendly country. Therefore rest in peace. There is no difference between the Johnnies and the Mehmets to us where they lie side by side now here in this country of ours... you, the mothers, who sent their sons from faraway countries wipe away your tears; your sons are now lying in our bosom and are in peace. After having lost their lives on this land. They have become our sons as well." M.KEMAL ATATÜRK

Thank you for taking the time to make these videos and remind us of the sacrifice of these brave men.

The landing wasn't a matter of being lost, they were off course, and when Hamilton, who was leading the ANZACS at the time, said "We're landing anyway", it was game over. He was alerted to it being the wrong beach, but went ahead with the landing anyway.

@anthonyeaton5153

2 жыл бұрын

The ANZACS were not landed on the wrong beach. Fact.

@AwakenedAvocado

Жыл бұрын

British command sacrificed Anzacs let's not pretend they didn't. It is what it is, hope we can learn from history.

@MCshadr217

Жыл бұрын

@@AwakenedAvocado Please don't try and correct someone who actually learned what went down.

@AwakenedAvocado

Жыл бұрын

@@MCshadr217 what went down then youre telling me British command who had oversight and command of Anzac troops didn't throw them into the front line. Yeah right

My great grandfather died here in 1915 as part of the Irish brigade.

@EchoBravo370

3 жыл бұрын

Respect to your family and great grandfather.

At V beach On top of the cliff facing the fortress of Sedd al Bahr there is a nice diorama of the action with a big model of River Clyde in it. Our friend Dan Snow just needed to look at it to see something was wrong.

Thank you for taking your time making this video. R.I.P Our Bravery brothers Lest we forget ANZAC

@torinjones3221

2 жыл бұрын

And lest we forget the British and French who died there too

@samuelphillips4258

12 күн бұрын

Yes lest we forget never forget never

Gallipoli is a victory for Turkish people..we fight with anzacs soldiers ...but now,still we love them like a brother.

@raya4358

3 жыл бұрын

I have visited Turkey several times beginning in 2000. Why did the Turkish people abandon the modern republic that Ataturk founded in order to establish an Islamic dictatorship under Erdogan? Shame!

@raya4358

3 жыл бұрын

@Kayra Kara The truth is propaganda to those that hate the truth. I have visited Turkey several times from 2000 to 2014. I was in downtown Istanbul when the Erdogan government was attacking protesters who wanted to keep the freedoms that the Erdogan government wanted to take away. It is sad to see what has happened to the great Turkish Republic that Ataturk founded. We can only hope that the Turkish people rise up and restore the dream of Ataturk.

@sarko1312

3 жыл бұрын

@@raya4358 We are against Erdogan. We'll fire him soon. Wait to 2023

@raya4358

3 жыл бұрын

@@sarko1312 May God bless you and grant you and the many wonderful Turkish people success in removing Erdogan and bringing back the Turkish Republic!

@sarko1312

3 жыл бұрын

@@raya4358 Thank you so much, brother. We, as young people of the modern Turkish Republic, will do what is necessary

I was stationed in Turkey in the 1950's. This is interesting :) Another fellow, Gallipoli from above, claims the allies knew everything :)

What a cock up. They were slaughtered by the crossfire and the shrapnel from bombs. Lack of planning meant they had no idea of the terrain and enemy that they were taking on.

@gdubsterz1238

3 жыл бұрын

Very rare for the Brits. They always do their homework.

@COLEEN322

3 жыл бұрын

@@gdubsterz1238 Bullshit, they were using maps from the Crimean War.

@harrycurrie9664

3 жыл бұрын

@@gdubsterz1238 Which makes me think Churchill had a deep distain for the Colonial soldier ... just cannon fodder to him.

@anthonyeaton5153

2 жыл бұрын

Also the Aussies weren’t very good soldiers.

@---675

2 жыл бұрын

@@harrycurrie9664 Britain had 3x times as many killed than all the Anzacs combined you idiot.

those young anzac and turkish soldiers lost their lives but they have presented us an ever lasting friendship. An anzac soldier means a lot for us. Bravery, courage, honor, pride an much more.....

I was there in 2007...spent many weekends there walking the beach...diving...meeting Ausies...Kiwis...Brits...Turks...seeing the concrete bunkers...honoring the dead in the cemetery...turned around and saw Joseph Ashley...Burried there at the hill top cemetery...my Grand father served in France in WW1

Please go back and check some of your source material. The ANZACs were actually put ashore on the beaches that General Birdwood had decided that they should be. He was not happy with the landing areas that had been nominated in the original plan and so he changed the plan. He carried out extensive reconnaissance, via personal observation from a destroyer (even going to the extent of dressing in Naval Uniform whilst on the bridge) as well as ariel photography. He noted that the original landing beaches were protected by extensive wire entanglements below the waterline; as you point out was also the case elsewhere on the peninsular. As at W and V beaches the area was also covered by well-placed machine guns and entrenched infantry in large numbers. Gen Birdwood noticed a small cove where there were no wire entanglements and very little breastworks or entrenched infantry. He picked that beach, now ANZAC Cove, and what is now known as North Beach, to be the point of the attack. Unfortunately for the ANZACs: the reason that the Turks had not established any significant defences in that area was due to the terrain being a natural defence. When the attack failed and the objectives of the day were not realised: General Birdwood wrote a letter to his wife and blamed the currents for 'taking the boats off course'. The Royal Commission in 1919 bore that out. Two of my Great Uncles fought at Gallipoli and went on to deploy to France: they were fortunate to have made it through the war and returned to the families. I visited Gallipoli in 2002 and can only say that my admiration for all who fought and died in that campaign grew exponentially! Interestingly: The Gallipoli Campaign was the focal point of planning for the D-Day invasion of 1944. Both sides studied the cmapaign to try to determine the actions required to win the day. The Nazi command, under Field Marshal Rommel, planned to annihilate the invaders on the beach. The Allies knew that it was imperative to get off the beach on the one day or lose! Rommel almost succeeded, but allied supremacy at sea and in the air overcame the planning and guaranteed allied success on the ground. That and the willingness of the infantry and supporting arms to maintain the momentum. Lest We Forget.

@BatMan-oe2gh

2 жыл бұрын

Allies had a secret weapon, it was Called the Sleeping Hitler. If Rommel had full control, D Day may not have been a success. I like your comment s well, well written and concise. Cheers

@anaussie213

2 жыл бұрын

The German defences were undermanned due to the thought that opposed beach landings with modern defences (machine guns) could not succeed, thanks to what happened at Gallipoli.

@davidlynch9049

2 жыл бұрын

The currents, eh ? Uh huh.

@XXXTENTAClON227

2 жыл бұрын

@@anaussie213 allied deception was the biggest factor. Operation Fortitude. This involved things like inflatable tanks, fake troops and fake invasions, it was genius

@anthonyeaton5153

3 ай бұрын

Gallipoli or properly The Dardenelles was not the blue print for DDay if anything it was the antithesis of D Day. Where was the airpower etc. The Canadian led Landings at Dieppe in 1942 was a more likely the blueprint.

If I ever got to visit Gallipoli I think I would be bawling my eyes out. Just looking at those cliffs. It's little wonder it was like lambs to the slaughter. Winston Churchill may have been a great PM but he was a terrible strategist

@alanbingham5883

2 жыл бұрын

And no great friend of Australia. Gallipoli in WW1 and in WW2 he wanted to let the Japanese take Australia while our troops were in North Africa. We'll win it back later he famously is reported to have said. Thankfully the Australian PM said no and brought the Australian troops back from the middle east into PNG where they stopped the Japanese at Kokoda.

@XXXTENTAClON227

2 жыл бұрын

@@alanbingham5883 in one sense though… is he not wrong? Australia would’ve probably beaten Japan with a handicapped army. Japan were overwhelmingly incompetent due to their arrogance, this is part of the reason why they kept committing horrible crimes, out of anger for how much longer it had taken. Bare in mind they’d been indoctrinated from a young age to believe that they could genuinely take all of Asia, so when they tried to take the British Raj they didn’t even bring enough food, and retreated due to starvation. Now imagine that same army in the outback… lmaooo the wildlife would kill them before Australian troops could

Looks so peaceful - clear, blue water.

Some recent research has shown that the landing on anzac wasn't that bad even though they landed in the wrong area and would have been much worse if they had landed in the correct area. The fact they were able to climb and not get stuck on the beach is testiment to this. The problem came because the ottomans realised that the Anzac attack was the more critical one and they put most of their effort in to stopping them while they had the poms pinned down on the beaches in the south. Most Anzac casualties came from the ottoman counter attack later in the day then the actual landing.

Half of a million deaths made hundrend million people friend. Greetings from Turkey.

@ozguratlas697

3 жыл бұрын

arkadas olmak icin binlerce insanin olmesine gerek yoktu.Hic gelmemis olsalardi ve hic kimse olmeseydi.Umarim gecmis savaslar ornek olurda gelecekte artik savaslar olmaz.

@rdg665

3 жыл бұрын

Greetings from Egypt , Respect

@freespirit906

3 жыл бұрын

To my brothers 🤲🏼 🇹🇷🤝 🇵🇰 🤝 🇦🇿 🐺🤘🏽

@COLEEN322

3 жыл бұрын

Fuck you

@sqnhunter

3 жыл бұрын

Considering only 51 thousand allied soldiers died...that would mean Turkey suffered horribly, even if it held the high ground. The battles were one thing.. the sickness and hunger were the real enemy of the Turks, making it a very bitter win for Turkey. Ataturk realized that Turkey could no longer afford to be enemies with such people. Hence the reason we became friends, especially how Australians at Beersheba and throughout the middle east caused the routing of the ottoman empire at its final moments. I would certainly offer the hand of friendship to such people also. But, A friendship it has indeed been. Marked with honor off the Fighters and fallen of both sides. But tragically...it may be marred by the actions of a radical faction of Turkish politics today....those men that do not remember nor have honor themselves. Those pushing for the old ways of conquest to return again.... which will see Turkey and its people suffer again....ten fold in these modern days of warfare. Greetings and Kudos, Brother! Live well and go with god in your hearts.

I spoke to a Scottish soldier who said they had no instructions. Just milled round on the beach. I still have his second war Roles Royce security badge. He survived Gallipoli and spent the whole second war as a metal polisher. He said Gallipoli was a disaster. Came to Australia where i met him.

My great uncle died here on the 31st August 1915 after being badly wounded from Artillery. R.I.P Pvt Roderic Rowland - Royal Welch Fusiliers

@samuelphillips4258

12 күн бұрын

Sorry 😔 I lost my great great great grandfather I never know him because I wasn't born back then but I'm respectful to all countries including mine

Mustafa Kemal Atatürk ♥️

Such a beautiful place

@samuelphillips4258

12 күн бұрын

Beautiful now but in 1915 it was disastres

That stretch of land has seen its fair share of wars as it connects Asia and Europe. Also watch Battlefield Detectives The Gallipoli Catastrophe which takes an in-depth look at the whole campaign and shows other issues the soldiers had to deal with, such as undrinkable water.

Turkey had every right to defeat any country that dare to land on their shores. Sadly, the British had to learn that very expensive lesson. Young British, allies soldiers died for a "miscalculation"...

Very interesting. However, the question "*Why* were the Gallipoli landings so disastrous?" is not answered. We only hear *that* the Gallipoli landings were so disastrous. The reasons were incompetence on the part of allied leadership, and extraordinary efforts from the Ottoman soldiery.

@rizon72

2 жыл бұрын

Terrain was a huge factor. British intel didn't have accurate topographical maps. The British invasion was basically doomed before it even began.

@rizon72

2 жыл бұрын

@@nadirhikmetkuleli7335 Terrain is a huge factor in any battle. If the terrain had been flatter the British would have held a lot more land before being bogged down in trench warfare. The question then becomes would it have been enough to allow British warships through the Straits? Were the British and their allies going to head to Constantinople? No way. But if the British held enough of the strait, Constantinople could have been bombarded by British warships. With all the bravery of the Trukish troops, they were helped by the terrain. Honestly I think if the planners knew of the actual terrain, it wouldn't have been given a go, or would have been very different.

Respect australia from turkey. Gallipoli is Last gentlemen war.

@vinorob

3 жыл бұрын

Lovely country and people in Turkey

@pavel3659

3 жыл бұрын

You look like white Australian :D

@Kemalist0008

7 ай бұрын

​@@pavel3659some turks are brown some turks are white U cah find a lot of white Turks if u walk around a little Not as white as Germans or Nordics tho haha

4.46 My great grandfather is buried in one of those graves. He was a marine on the SS clyde. He went with some other soldiers and an officer to try and get some of wounded back on board. All died. The officer got the Victoria cross which tells you all you need to know about the British class system. The bodies were buried in a very shallow mass grave just up from the beach and had to be moved after animals started dragging body parts out and fresh arrivals kept putting their feet through the corpses just below the surface. War is hell.

One of my favorite books is Birds Without Wings by Louis de Berniers. It’s a beautiful, tragic and poetic narrative set during WWI, the Battle of Gallipoli takes place about halfway through the book. “Man is a bird without wings and a bird is a man without sorrows” Iskander the Potter

Churchill. “I have a cunning plan baldrick”. Sadly not funny but true..

@vinorob

3 жыл бұрын

It was a good plan executed badly

Oop the war must have been dark and bloody. My teachers normally just say this part only "many of the soldiers died in the war and poppies were growing on battlefield" they never told me Australia and New Zealand were the anzacs

All Australians and Kiwis are schooled on the Gallipoli campaign and the horrific losses. No one ever mentions that the French committed a similar amount of troops and had similar casualties. The Anzacs were fighting in far flung lands for the folly of “empire” so were all at sea anyway, but why French generals left their homes and villages to attack Turkey, I’ll never know. I suppose they had their own ideas of empire in the Middle East, but there were German trenches not far from Paris, and none in Sydney or London.

Do not pass this place as a stop, pass the ground as a passenger!!! 🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷

there are bird songs so beutiful at the backgroung 2:40

Dan Snow needs to visit the Australian War Memorial Museum and speak to the military historians there who will put him right as to what went wrong at Anzac Cove. That beach is almost exactly in the middle of the stretch of coast line identified for the landing. There was not an opposition force in depth, certainly no machine guns which were held in reserve. The landing troops were stopped by a brigade commander before they reached their objective on the heights. He had no confidence in the plan and he also convinced the following brigade commander to not proceed. This allowed the Turks to get reinforcements and bring down a withering fire on the ANZAC forces who were lower down the slopes. If the troops had not been stopped the outcome may have been very different. What passes for the truth in Australia was the media spin put up to account for why the landings had not succeeded. It is about time the real story was told.

@anthonyeaton5153

2 жыл бұрын

Well said Peter.

@anthonyeaton5153

3 ай бұрын

The landing at Anzac Cove was unopposed.

My great grandfather Thomas Joseph canny was a lighthorseman and served with the Australian 10th light horse regiment in Gallipoli and then with the 9th light horse regiments at famous charge of Beersheba 31st Oct 1917

Does anybody know the name of the song/soundtrack at the beginning and at the end of the video?

Military incompetence at it's highest standard. Unfortunetly, this was very common throughout the entire war.

@brianpendergast2894

3 жыл бұрын

Great job Winnie Churchill

@anthonyeaton5153

3 жыл бұрын

Also incompetence by soldiers as well.

@danny50582

3 жыл бұрын

@@anthonyeaton5153 They did send inexperienced troops to Gallipoli in order to keep the experienced troops on the Western front. Again, that's on the high command.

The original plan was put aside by Admiral Fischer, he did not want the Army involved, the navy and army were to attack at the same time. It was known that the straights were mined, and obsolete ships were used, but their loss caused panic. By the time it was decided to use the army, the Turks were ready for them.

The horrors of this landing are remembered in the song "And the band played Waltzing Matilda" (Eric Bogle) - but I recommend listing the Dubliners cover.

Thank you for this. War is atrocious.

It was such a mess, with such losses, that Winston Churchill had to resign as First Sea Lord of the Admiralty.

@globaltravelerindia1294

4 жыл бұрын

if gallipoli never happened winston churcill never learned to defeat german in 1944

@anthonyeaton5153

3 жыл бұрын

@@globaltravelerindia1294 the Germans were defeated in 1945

@dnhy7951

3 жыл бұрын

Keith, you are confusing 2 different offices.Churchill was First Lord of the Admiralty, effectively Minister for the Navy.First Sea Lord was a naval officer rank.

@sqnhunter

3 жыл бұрын

He didn't resign. He was demoted...completely different thing. After being demoted to the ceremonial position of Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster, he was hurt and demoralized. Publically humiliated in fact. Winston Churchill resigned from the government altogether after that and left for the Western Front with the rank of Lieutenant Colonel! And yes... the position he held in government war cabinet was actually First Lord of the admiralty. His demotion was a real vote of no confidence. Surprised he didn't neck himself after that disgrace, lol :P

@sqnhunter

3 жыл бұрын

@@globaltravelerindia1294 If his planning of the Dardanelles was any pretense of his leadership abilities...I would place him as the words greatest pretender, riding on the back of his militaries finest. I could say a lot of things to make sense in times of war...but ultimately...the strategies and completion of orders comes from the ranks...the men he stole glory from. He was just another dime a dozen government official who just happened to hold office at a time when the world was watching. It needed hero's...and he was made one. Deserving it is an entirely different scenario.

I want to know why the British involvement is always over looked. Thank you for bringing this to light. I appreciate the bravery of the ANZACS but over 34,000 British troops died! Other nations lost thousands too.

@anthonyeaton5153

3 жыл бұрын

Well said!

@leth9320

2 жыл бұрын

@@nadirhikmetkuleli7335 Wow! What a xenophobic answer. You clearly have an axe to grind about the British. "Brits who died were JUST enemies killed" whereas ANZACS were honourable martyrs. Take your bitterness somewhere else.

My maternal grandfather fought there with the Australian 2nd Light Horse and survived.

All I could think of when he showed the beaches was that I didn`t know the waters there looked so good, and I wanted to go swimming there. And I`m a Turk.

V beach SS River Clyde were The 1st battalion Royal Munster Fussiliers

@Dom-fx4kt

3 жыл бұрын

Great grandfather was transferred from the Royal Irish regiment after he landed at Suvla to the Royal Munster Fusiliers because most of their previous officer core had been made casualties already.

Every nation with a coastline should learn from the Turks how to deal with the Pirate Empire. Greetings from Argentina.

@scottwallace5239

7 жыл бұрын

Oh do shut up, Argentinians couldn't fight their way out of a wet paper bag, get the chip off your shoulder and do something productive,find love,write a song, just chill out

@luca9541

6 жыл бұрын

Rambo penguin u stupid or what? The guy just send greetings to the turks for kicking the british empire ass

@luca9541

6 жыл бұрын

Rambo penguin hating ass

@TonyBraun

6 жыл бұрын

Hahahaha...butt hurt Rambo

@luca9541

6 жыл бұрын

they lost the war but they won the gallipoli invasion

In the Galipoli campaign, France committed and lost as many troops as the ANZAC and nearly as many ships as the British did, yet anglo-centered Dan Snow does not say a word about it...

I've read two dairies from this period and location, and ... well ... it was bleak. The poor buggers had no idea what they were getting into.

Respected friend on that day 14 British and 371 Indian casualties happens respect dear honourable friend nothing matter but to Martyr keep it on love u dear .Salute all the bravest people .

@turkishmagellan6790

4 жыл бұрын

The British became a feed for fish 😁😂😂😂😁

@invisibleman4827

3 жыл бұрын

@@turkishmagellan6790 The Armenians followed them soon after though in the desert.

Nearly 3,000 kiwis died at Gallipoli, meanwhile on the Western Front a further 15,000 kiwis were killed. The ANZAC's fought many battles in many different places.

@coreyjobson1077

6 жыл бұрын

Mate you can’t forget about the aussies!!!

@stelley08

6 жыл бұрын

corey jobson very true...aussies lost a lot more lads... mainly due to the incompetent british officers...they treated the colonials as cannon fodder

@dansmith1045

4 жыл бұрын

stelley08 I know this is an old comment but can you fuck off saying cannon fodder . Everyone was used as cannonfodder the british and commonwealth armies actually lost the least amount of men for one of the big contenders in the war.

@tycuygfyfyfh5498

4 жыл бұрын

Losing 15k kiwis losing in a war and 3k in a single battle is both different thing their was 100ds or 1000nds of battles in ww2 and losing 3k in a population of less than 1million is huge.

@tdawg6348

4 жыл бұрын

10k men was 10% of NZs current population

Dear ANZAC, Your grandpa is our brother since 1915. He is sharing our land with our soldiers. R.I.P

This always reminds me of that one scene from Planes, Trains, and Automobiles. The infamous car scene. Am I wrong?

To think that in WW1 over 21million souls lost their lives is heartbreaking. Lest We Forget.

@BroadHobbyProjects

2 жыл бұрын

All forced to fight & die to happen all over again a few decades later.

@davidlynch9049

2 жыл бұрын

@@BroadHobbyProjects with over 50 million dead in WWII.

Ben Türk'üm ve Çanakkale'de yaşıyorum her yerde Müzeler şehitlikler var ve sahilde yürürken hala kemikler ve Demir parçaları kurşunlar mermi kovanları bulabiliyoruz toprağa biraz kaldırdığında zaten hemen çıkıyor her tarafta hala kurşun duruyor Çanakkale'de yaşıyorum ve çok güzel bir yer

I had the privilege to serve at 5 different Anzac Ceremonies including the 100th anniversary that was in 2015. Had met the former chief of Australian Army Angus Campbell. A beautiful land watered by blood.

My great uncle was killed in the Gallipoli landings so it's good to be able to get an understanding of what happened.

Churchill was never held accountable for this....

@dnhy7951

3 жыл бұрын

Not sure what you have in mind in terms of Churchill being held accountable but Gallipoli was pretty damaging for his career. Took him a long time to live it down. Also, one might say Churchill was hardly unique in being a WW1 political or military leader who was willing to sacrifice the lives of many ordinary Joe Soaps to advance their geopolitical plans. 'Lions led by donkeys' was a very apt phrase. Personally, I have no time for WW1-one set of empires fighting another set.I am Irish.

Hala sular biraz çekildiğinde sığ yerlerdeki sularda batırdığımız Savaş gemilerinin parçalarını bulabiliyoruz

Having seen Gallipoli for myself I cannot but agree. Talk about being poorly prepared or informed the British Generals new less about this part of Turkey than they knew about the Moon. My grandmother's first cousin was part of the Australian First Battalion who landed late in the afternoon of April 25. He was there for over three months, never once removing his boots, as a consequence he had to be evacuated (to a hospital in Malta) it effectively saved his life as he avoided the battle of Lone Pine. But it just delayed the inevitable - he found death on the Somme.

My father was at Gallipoli with the Warwickshire Regiment. He got shot in the upper left arm, casivated to Malta, then to Blithy. Medical discharge in 1918 at the Gloucester Regiment as he couldn't hold a rifle.. In some ways he was lucky to survive. He did mention that , the Warwickshire Regiment wanted anyone to become Officers as the Regiment had lost so many being killed at Gallipoli. He died at the age of 88. He never mentioned what he had experienced at Gallipoli. There again people don't, because we live life, today and tomorrow. Yes I am ex- army. Yep 3 tours of Bosnia and 2 of Northern Ireland.

@pappy374

2 жыл бұрын

It's a terrible thing that we humans do to each other, Nick.

OK ... the reason for the failure of the campaign is in the book _Castles of Steel_ by Robert K. Massie en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Castles_of_Steel The whole thing started with the German Battle Cruiser Goeben. It sought shelter from the British Chasing it in Istanbul. The Turks allowed it into the straights - and then - to keep it there since Turkey wasn't in the war yet - the Germans _gave_ the ship to Turkey - and - it's crew went with it. This ship, which was not under Turkish control, then went into the Black Sea and attacked Russian shipping - and that brought Turkey into the war. The British noted the possible effect on Turkey of the Goeben's guns sitting a few hundred yards off their Capital. And it occurred to them - that they could do the same thing. The original Plan - was to have the Army land at the *_TOP_* of the peninsula, cut across it - and therefore cut off all the Turkish units farther down. The Royal Navy had a number of obsolete Battleships which it was about to scrap any way. So it didn't care if they were lost. These ships guns were sufficient though to deal with the Turkish Forts. It was assumed that the Turks would use mines - so a flotilla of mine sweepers would clear the water ahead of the Battleships. This plan could have worked. The first thing that went wrong was - the Army didn't want to do it and refused to participate. So - the Navy thought they'd try and do it on their own. What happened then - was that the small mine sweepers were civilian boats brought into RN service - WITH their former crews - who were still civilians. This is what stalled the Naval Effort. Each time the RN tried to force the straits - as soon as they took any kind of fire, even though they took NO casualties - the civilian crews to the mine sweepers turned about and fled. So - the RN took the civilians off and began arranging for sailors to man these mine sweepers. Now - the Army - decided it would participate after all ... This put an end to the Naval Campaign - which at this point might have worked. On looking at the original plan - to land at the undefended beaches at the top of the peninsula, it was now found that the Turks - after seeing that they were being attacked - had put troops in place to defend those beaches. So - the Army was to land at the bottom of the peninsula - and fight it's way up. Given that this was WWI and Amphibious Warfare not anywhere near what it was in WWII - the landings were a mess and though they got a beach head they could bring supplies and reinforcements in at - they couldn't get out of it. Eventually - they gave up. But - if the Army had been willing to support the plan in the first place - it may have worked and Turkey knocked out of the war. If the Naval Strategy had been continued with military crews on the mine sweepers - the plan might have worked - but - once the Army was willing to participate - that plan was abandoned. So ... if the original plan had been tried - and worked - Gallipoli might today be remembered as a Brilliant Plan - instead of the disaster it became. As it was, Churchill got the blame for the failure - and lost his position with the Navy. He then joined his Regiment in France as a Battalion Commander and spent several months in the trenches. .

@davidlynch9049

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks. Very interesting, but whomever thought it was a good idea to land that many troops on a beach and fight uphill, while the enemy was entrenched on the high ground with machine guns, should have been court marshalled.

@BobSmith-dk8nw

2 жыл бұрын

@@davidlynch9049 The landing's weren't the problem. They got ashore OK. They didn't have landing craft but were just using Ships Boats but that was sufficient and they didn't try to land in the teeth of well fortified beaches - like Omaha Beach on D-Day. This is one of the reasons they did not try and land at the original landing sites at the top of the peninsula - because once the Turks realized something was up - they fortified _those_ beaches right away. The problem for the Army was that this was World War One ... with Trenches and Machine guns - and rapid fire artillery - so the British Empire Troops trying to advance up the peninsula - had the same problems as those in France and couldn't get any where. After some months of trying - with no room to maneuver on a thin peninsula - they gave up and the operation was abandoned. Again - if they had landed unopposed on the beaches at the top of the peninsula as in the original Navy Plan - there would have been no one there to stop them and they could have just crossed the top of the peninsula and cut the Turks off from Supplies that were farther down it - while - the Navy tried to force the channel. When the Army refused to cooperate at the start when they had a chance of success - that is what ruined the operation. The Army - with the Turks now being the ones attacking their trenches as they cut off the Turks down the peninsula - could have done the same thing to the Turks that the Turks did to them when they landed at the bottom of the peninsula (where they found lightly defended beaches) and tried to fight their way up. The plan wasn't that bad when they thought it up - but - it required a level of Army/Navy cooperation that has always been problematic no matter who was doing it. During WWII - they did so much of this - that after the Marines taught the Army how to do it - Army, Navy and Marines did this stuff a lot. Some of these operations though - even with all they knew in WWII could be very, very bloody. At Anzio - a similar thing happened. They didn't have enough troops to commit to the landings because most of them had been drawn away for the Normandy Landings on D-Day. So ... they were hesitant about advancing to far ... and they didn't take the hills right away that dominated the beach - and they got stuck there for months. They never broke out of Anzio until they broke through the German lines south of there - which the Anzio operation was supposed to cause - but didn't. 2.bp.blogspot.com/cMmM_iQcfzpZH6CvqxyHBJFyTNRFCsFoBJXZIHDQu33FKAxqrGsuPYMcDG5inaUjnZ9mY8ED23QQoGSN3kk40w87c2RJiqqsanKk87jVXV6XqX__j50inIGNGEaVVFSyaiwcBtCbZw=s1600 .

Winston Churchill should be ashamed,his incompetence got many men slaughtered.

@reactivearmour5126

3 жыл бұрын

Churchill came up with the strategic concept of the campaign which, it is at least arguable, was sound. Generals like Hamilton and Stopford we’re responsible for the actual direction of the operation which was so flawed. A sad repeat of Gallipoli happened in WWII at Anzio - again, good strategic concept by Churchill, poor execution, this time by US generals.

@pjd6977

3 жыл бұрын

@@reactivearmour5126 couldn't have put it better

@vinorob

3 жыл бұрын

@@pjd6977 Indeed. Good plans executed badly.

@sqnhunter

3 жыл бұрын

Churchill was dismissed from his war cabinet position....so he resigned from the parliament and went to France to fight as a lieutenant colonel. He was shamed...but brits always forgave easily and brought him back soon enough.

@dnhy7951

3 жыл бұрын

@@sqnhunter Eh well, he was removed from the Admiralty and later in Nov 1915, he resigned from his new and far less important cabinet position as Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster.He then joined the Army but he didn't resign as an MP. It wasn't that unusal for some WW1 and WW2 era MPs to stay in Parliament while also joining up and even going on active service. Might have a bit tricky looking after the old constituency paperwork while having shells raining down on you.

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If it had been a "combined" operation, i.e. Troops landing as the Allied fleet made it's attempt to force the Narrows, there was a chance of it succeeding. In March, the Turks did not have the trenches and prepared positions in place that they had in April; and they had considerably fewer troops in the peninsula to defend them. The few Royal Marines who landed in March, faced almost no opposition and wandered about, enjoying the peace and quiet, wondering where the Turks were.