Seeing Mr Loades on a thumbnail is an automatic click… love this man and his knowledge and passion.

@tHiNk413

19 сағат бұрын

Also I his voice to me borders on ASMR, don't ask me why

Mike Loades is a legend ... but I think we’re all still waiting for a Kevin Hicks History Hit Collaboration!!!

@mikeryan7468

5 күн бұрын

The French English man is back lol

@ragnarthered2179

5 күн бұрын

History hit + history squad=history hitsquad

@Brian-lv7xw

3 күн бұрын

Not a huge fan of his!!

@cleverusername9369

3 күн бұрын

I'll cosign on this

@DallingerM

2 күн бұрын

@@Brian-lv7xw of Kevin?! I seriously think he’s the best guy out there right now ... What is it you don’t like?

To be fair, I think the move to pistols was because they were actually less likely to be lethal than a fight with swords. One shot each, you both miss, you can call honour, (a dirty word), satisfied, and end it. With swords, it has to go on until someone gets hurt. Not that pistol duels weren't dangerous, just a bit more controlled. Give Ridley Scots "the Duelists" a look.

@jonathanengdahl9045

6 күн бұрын

Sword duels are probably more likely to injure both parties. It is incredibly difficult to go in for the kill with a sword without being struck yourself

@FelixstoweFoamForge

6 күн бұрын

@@jonathanengdahl9045 Thats my point, so yup.

@robinburt5735

6 күн бұрын

Sword duels though were generally ended when someone was cut, which normally wasn't anything serious. Getting hit by a large ball of lead that took a bit of clothing with it was often fatal.

@martingreen2018

6 күн бұрын

Sword duels were usually to first blood, not to the death.

@jonathanengdahl9045

6 күн бұрын

@@FelixstoweFoamForge You see this in fencing where points are given to the one who hit the other faster by a factor of milliseconds. Even the best swordsmen wouldnt have a long duelling life. An expert marksman with a high quality pistol however could just keep dropping them

Mike Loades is fantastic at telling these stories.

Anything with Mike Loades is absolute fire 🔥

It sounds like dueling with bankers who wont lend you money should most definitely make a return.

Ive seen on another channel a pair of black powder dueling pistols that were designed to shoot wax bullets, it was thought of as a sport, you would wear a face guard and shoot at each other for fun......😮 it would hurt but not kill, kind of like modern day paintball.

@robertstallard7836

6 күн бұрын

It was even a sport in the 1908 Olympics.

@johncartwright8154

5 күн бұрын

'Paintball duelling' using replica period pistols. That would be an interesting business venture for settling arguments!

@brandonobaza8610

4 күн бұрын

Sounds like the Lepage wax bullet dueling pistols. Forgotten Weapons has an episode on those.

@grahambamford9073

3 күн бұрын

@@brandonobaza8610 that's the one 👍

As always Mike, Terrific narrative. If only you could have been my History teacher. I'm 78 now and my History teachers were all good, But you would have been GREAT.

Mike Loades is a great presenter

@travisinthetrunk

6 күн бұрын

I love his energy. You can tell he loves what he does.

@user-gn6bd3hh5u

2 күн бұрын

@@travisinthetrunk A wonderful man

Never miss a Mike Loades episode!

Thank You for yet another great video Mr. Loades !

Thoroughly enjoyed this video! Mike Loades always does an awesome job!

My maternal grandfather's great great grandfather was 2-0-1 in pistol duals. It became an issue when he ran for president in 1824.

Brilliant piece of work! Many thanks Mike and the team!💥🏆

Mike is the best . He’s the guy you want to have next to you when trouble happens

The title of this vid is misleading. It's not about accuracy, stopping power or wounds. It's about the history of dueling.

Riffling does not reduce ‘oscillations’ necessarily but rather imparts gyroscopic rigidity to the projectile thereby improving the firearms accuracy compared to a non-riffled firearm.

@ardshielcomplex8917

5 күн бұрын

"Riffling" is that doing the wild thaing in her lounge room ?

@chriswalker2753

5 күн бұрын

No. The projectile will have surface imperfections that deflect it as a result of air resistance. When it spins, these imperfections are effectively presented in all directions, so the projectile doesn't veer (or, if you like, a deflection to the left is rapidly cancelled by a deflection to the right).

@paavobergmann4920

5 күн бұрын

@@chriswalker2753 That´s the case in arrows. A curved path is effectivey turned into a narrow cone. Firearm projectiles usually spin much faster, to the point were gyroscopic effects do play a role.

As usual, excellent job. Mr. Loades is a treasure.

Mike Loades knowledge of weapons ancient or otherwise is phenomenal. He also an exceptional historian. Or he has great writers. 😊

Excellent video...thank you!

The last fatal dual in Canada was John Wilson - my ancestor. Was over a girl. He was a lawyer and defended himself in court, did a few other important things in early Canada.

@masqerader

3 күн бұрын

Think you mean duel, also there was one apparently in Quebec in 1838

@andrewwilson8210

3 күн бұрын

@@masqerader no. Check your facts before mansplaining. The last fatal duel in Upper Canada [Ontario] took place in Perth 13 June 1833. Defending his honour, John Wilson shot and killed Robert Lyon, who had called him a liar and assaulted him. Wilson and his second were charged with murder, but were acquitted.

@masqerader

3 күн бұрын

​@@andrewwilson8210 yes upper Canada but not the last fatal duel in Canada which happened in lower Canada in 1838

The chap on the right at 33:34 is holding his piece in a most _gangsta_ fashion.

Mike is immortal, i remember Time Commanders - he's not aged!

Really interesting and informative. Thank you.

Mike is my favourite historian by far! 😊

Wellington had said, "Real men didn't duel pistols, real men dueled with cannon." This may be anecdotal but it certainly sounds like the Iron Duke's dry humor.

I am not into military history however Mike Loades is fantastic and has drawn me into the world of war and weaponry for decades.

@AlvarezGuillermo-me

3 күн бұрын

Hello 👋

wonderful and fascinating story thank you

Thank you for a very interesting video. All the best from Sydney Australia 🇦🇺

Good to see again Mike .Very interresti g vidéo!

Seeing him walk back and forth in front of the head-high barrel when testing the trigger pull feels just wrong.

Great video as always, Duel is also a very interesting book, a must read for anyone keen on that era.

A first class film. Bravo! 👏

Simly great!

This was a well presented and filmed documentary and has redeemed this Channel as compared to other offerings recently uploaded I may reconsider subbing if this trend continues but time will tell.

very very interesting! I was engrossed.

Very interesting. I always think of Colonel Mustard shouting "I challenge you to a duel!"

Thank you.

👍👍from a history nut loved it

A 5.5 lb trigger pull is Really lite. No wonder there were so many accidental discharges(!)

Those pistols are beautiful

Interestingly, Church also fought a duel against Burr, shooting off Burr's vest button. Church had his pistols made specially in England, and they've 'found' to be rigged, or at least one was. It's Interesting though, that the Hamilton faction went after Burr because he had won the governorship of New York over their shared father-in-law. Hamilton being 'anti-duel' is perhaps revisionist history, due to having been in duels before, even one against James Madison, which Burr apparently dissuaded.

Interesting pistol duel in Forester's Midshipman Hornblower!

Brilliant video. I once owned a late duelling percusion pistol (back action lock )made by Taylor of Beverley. Wish i had not sold it

I've read that dueling challenges made newspaper editor "the most dangerous occupation" in 19th century America.

There is an anecdote recited by an English authority (he even wrote a pamphlet!) on dueling. He was a witness to a duel between an ordinary man and a man who was known as a regular duelist. In the actual duel, the ordinary man discharged his weapon and missed. The semi professional man pulled his trigger and his pistol misfired. He insisted that he was due another shot. But the "specialist" interposed, saying that if the pro got a second try and killed his opponent, he would see the duelist hanged for murder. The specialist pointed out the participants were required to stand and "receive fire;" but that it was not the ordinary man's fault the other man's pistol misfired. He had stood to the effort and done his part...and that was sufficient to satisfy his honor. While duelists might wish for the death of their opponent, the practice was a test of courage and honor, not bloodthirstiness.

It should be noted that a 'pace' is actually the distance covered between the time you lift a foot and the time you put it back down, half a pace is a step.

There is or was a pub in High Wycombe, Buckinghamshire called The Rifle Butts and it is or was on the London Road.

Dueling wasn’t outlawed in North Carolina until sometime in the 1960s. Sometimes I wish it was still legal.

@tbjtbj4786

12 сағат бұрын

I do to. It would stop a lot of lawsuit and a lot of modern day nonsense.

@davidweihe6052

4 сағат бұрын

@@tbjtbj4786It would transform ordinary lawsuits into Premeditated Murder, as duels were since the time of King Athelstan of Wessex. And transform “lawyers” into gunslingers, as happened in an episode of “Sliders” where Benjamin Siegel, Esq. was the grandson of “Bugsy” Siegel the famed gangster.

Good thing this tradition didn't persist into modern times. Dueling Uzis would be a lot more deadly.

@nem447

5 күн бұрын

might be a good thing, we'd have less idiots on the planet

The 2 Landells old and new, bear a remarkable resemblance.

I know the scope of the video is duelling pistols but the title is broad, so I wonder if in a future video you could feature some Lorenzoni System or Kalthoff firearms? Pre-cartridge repeating firearms are very cool.

It is likely that these duels were very famous in the Anglo-Saxon world, but to say that they were the most important duels in the world is saying too much. There have been gun and sword duels throughout Europe, even between one man against several opponents at the same time and There were also famous duelists who fought throughout Europe. "Diego de Paredes" is an example, but not the only one. Great report. Congratulations

To understand the lethality of black powder handguns, study the "shootout at the OK corral". Most of the participants suffered gunshot wounds and the losers often had dozens of pistol wounds. The only "one-shot-kill" was the poor schmuck that got both barrels of Doc Holiday's Greener. I did a bit of terminal ballistics with my Ruger NMA and was quite surprised how much less effective black powder was than smokeless powder.

Interesting

Well done but for one thing. A well tuned flintlock is quite fast in firing. You can barely, if at all, distinguish between the ignition time of a percussion gun and a flintlock.

@MaceGill

11 сағат бұрын

Grain makes a difference too. A fine FFFF in the primer will fire faster than a coarser grain.

The last duel fought in South Carolina was fought in 1880. It ended the life of a father of 14.

The last known pistol duel happened in Uruguay, fought in 1971 between Danilo Sena and Enrique Erro, in which neither of the combatants was injured.

They were deadly as long as the projectile actually hits you. When rifling the barrel became a thing then the firearms from the old days were definitely deadly

Brings to mind the dueling scene in the movie Highlander. ....😆

How backward we would be today without the invention of the shed.

The bit where he was testing the set trigger made me wince.. cocking a set trigger is the LAST thing you do before shooting. You cock and prime a set triggered gun with the set trigger cocked..

"Inflammatory correspondence" ? Crikey!

I read many years ago that some dueling pistols were deliberately set to shoot very high, meaning that a center hold would send the ball over your opponent’s head. One presumes that the owner would know how the pistols were sighted, which seems unfair to say the least.

Pardon me, are you Aaron Burr, sir?

Amazing 5 1/2lb Trigger pull is about the average for a Glock today too. A 1lb trigger pull is crazy even for race guns of today.

Perhaps a duel rather than another debate?

@JaNeija

5 күн бұрын

We did essentially pick our PM after a boxing match...

The video should have simply been titled, Dueling in the 18th Century, rather than How Deadly Were Guns in The 18th Century. It is more about the practice of dueling, than the deadliness of the weapons. Of course the weapons were deadly if one is hit in a part of the body that contains the vital organs.

What may have saved Landale was the slow firing of the flintlock pistol. Morgan missed because he was shot first while his gun hadn't yet fired.

Banker with a capital W

I think I just found the perfect thing to decide this whole Biden/Trump thing in the US.

@Sasquatch_Driver

5 күн бұрын

Add in they have to load their own and they have to be flintlock

@tonybarrett8543

4 күн бұрын

Trump would be able to manage it, even if awkwardly, Biden wouldn't. So, under duelling rules, it would not be allowed. I'm just making a statement regarding the rules of duelling, not a political one.

@GavTatu

3 күн бұрын

or just stop electing old men !

@chivo850

Күн бұрын

Biden would be screwed. He would have the barrel pointed at himself. Or he would look down the barrel, "Is this camera on?" Or he would be confused on what direction he should fire in. Or, for sure...he would be struck by a round leaving Trump unharmed...and he would turn around, bleeding from the chest, "We did it. We won this day. What? Im bleeding? NOOO! It's my adversary's blood. They use to call me CornPop, cause I could shoot a mite off of a flie's head! Then I'd take off to go to the kiddy pool to let the darker kids touch the blonde hairs on my leg...and......" *collapses unconcious*

@oxcart4172

Күн бұрын

Trump would lose, but leave a note claiming that he actually won, really!

I like this man from him being a expert in videos games

Interesting question: 18th C you're dealing with highly inaccurate weapons, but much larger caliber shot. They are much slower projectiles so they tend to smash and splinter bones. Modern projectiles are generally much higher velocity and with self defense ammo they're hollow point, rather than FMJ. However ammunition today are of a much smaller caliber. generally. I'd probably say it's down to the relative quality of medical care in the 18th v. 21st C. I'd rather be hit today than back then.

@dp-sr1fd

6 күн бұрын

They were not highly inaccurate, original smoothbore flintlock duelling pistols can produce a group of ten shots less than four inches diameter at twenty five metres. they were usually about .50" calibre with a muzzle velocity, if loaded with full powder charge, comparable to a modern pistol.

@ManiusCuriusDenatus

6 күн бұрын

@@dp-sr1fd I would love to see someone have a four inch grouping with 10 shots at 80 feet with a smoothbore pistol. I mean with consistancy and not a one off feat of expert marksmanship or luck. I really can't see that.

@dp-sr1fd

6 күн бұрын

@@ManiusCuriusDenatusThe World record score for the "Cominazzo" event with an original smoothbore flintlock pistol is held by a German his score was 94 out of 100. The event is shot on a PL7 target. The ten ring is two inches diameter and the nine ring is four inches diameter, that means he got four out of ten shots in a two inch bull's eye and the other six in the four inch nine ring. Many competitions are held with muzzle loading firearms both nationally and internationally at ranges up to one thousand yards with original and reproduction firearms. I have been a member of the Muzzleloading Association of Great Britain for thirty five years and have witnessed some incredible shooting.

@ManiusCuriusDenatus

6 күн бұрын

@@dp-sr1fd That is fascinating. I appreciate the information. I am certainly going to look up that organization. Thanks you!

@dp-sr1fd

6 күн бұрын

@@ManiusCuriusDenatus It is a very rewarding sport, to both collect and shoot these fascinating firearms is really good. We do have a website and shoot mid and long range at Bisley and there are local branches up and down the country. Sadly we are struggling to keep membership because it is difficult to recruit new members due in part to the difficulty in getting the appropriate firearm licenses. Also shooting as a sport is always shown in a negative light in the media it seems, but it is great fun and I have met many really nice people from all over the world.

This needs to be brought back....

@andrewsheldon6646

2 күн бұрын

Disagree mainly becuse I've seent he Duelist... at what point is is no longer "dishonerable" to refuse to humour a madman?

@CombatWombat7.62mm

Күн бұрын

@@andrewsheldon6646 i see you have an opinion and I don't care

Chivalry gone mad. Honour ? What honour ??

Dueling needs to be legalized world wide. If two people or for that matter wish to engage in mutual combat then it is their business and no one else's.

I proposed to my employer that he install an “octagon of pain” out in the parking lot, conflicted employees could Work Out personal disagreements. He didn’t go for it.

1ish lb trigger is common among target rifles and pistols today, and apparently was common in history as well

you are greatly overcharging the pan. You may be doing this for dramatic effect in the video, but the lock time is much shorter with proper priming. Also, the powder should be AWAY from the touchhole.

@user-gn6bd3hh5u

2 күн бұрын

I would submit that you're in danger of becoming distracted by the abulte trival non point of this film Sir.

@richardeikenburg7347

2 күн бұрын

@@user-gn6bd3hh5u And I would reply that you likely don’t know how to properly load a flintlock.

Standing directly in front of the gun? A big no-no, whether it's loaded or not.

They didn’t have a lot of sense in those days did they , you wouldn’t catch a modern man willingly standing in front of a loaded pistol waiting to be shot .

An informative video a bout Fatal Dueling costume ...during 17th-18th years practiced amongst aristocrats, highly ranking elites for solve theirs disputes by killing partnership. Thank you 🙏( History Hit) channel for sharing

Duelers would cross the Ohio River from Louisville, KY to duel in New Albany, IN.

This was such an amazing video! Sorry for the side comment, but it astonishes me (as an American) how close Britons are to one another when conversing. We'd back up another foot, at least!

@user-gn6bd3hh5u

2 күн бұрын

Is that why you're always shouting ;)

a lot of our modern day social ills would disappear if dueling made a comeback

Also this video forgot to mention the duel between The Duke of Wellington and Edmund Blackadder 😅😅😅

Over the years, there have been claims that Alexander Pushkin participated in as many as 26 duels. However, historians have been able only to ascertain five ...

The video doesn't actually answer the question in the title, but it is likely that pistol duels were less likely to be lethal than swords.

Mention Abraham Lincoln being challenged by later Union General James Shields. As the man challenged, Lincoln selected Long Swords. The dual was to be fought on a River sandbar. Their Seconds negotiated a resolution, so it never happened.

So i havent watched it all the way through yet, but a quick question. Were the barrels of the dueling pistols rifled? Or was this not yet invented?

@Bumpyi64

5 күн бұрын

Watch the video.

@user-gn6bd3hh5u

2 күн бұрын

I belive Mike explains that some were, but this was typically seen to be "illegal" in the realms of the dueling "laws".

When Mike Loades loads.

"Duels if honor" became a sin free method of committing suicide when syphilis and tuberculosis were pandemic and incurable.

That duel didn't take place in a field or anything like it. It took place on the water's edge/

24:44. chance of the draw?

Check ot Bon a Venteure. Savannah ,Ga

Dr Peter Hennis came to Exeter in 1830. In 1833, aged 31, he was shot and fatally wounded in a duel at Haldon. He was the last man to be killed in a duel in Devon. Therefore this video is inaccurate to say the last fatal dual was fought in 1826.

Amusing. How about using scale designed to measure it ? And what about metric ? My guns, pistol, revolver, rifle are set for 30 N, shotguns 50 N, my BP Hawken and my drilling are fitted with a set trigger and only require 5 N.

any wound could be fatal before antibiotics.

"Correct Aaron Burr, you are a blackguard!" I bet nobody here can tell me what TV show that quote is from lol.

@amos61905

5 күн бұрын

SpongeBob SquarePants

@jsullivan2112

5 күн бұрын

@@amos61905 Nope!

My understanding is; as the wealth of society shifted from landed aristocracy with a lot of idle time and a military upbringing to the professional merchant/investor classes pistols gave the new rich a fighting chance.