You two guys discussing the reasons why you are so much attached to the images created by the 28mm focal length brought up some heartfelt memories to my mind. Some 20 years ago I asked one of Brazil's foremost film director, Anselmo Duarte, why he had chosen the 28mm focal length as his favorite lens for filmmaking. Before I go further, let me give you a quick insight on Anselmo's cinematography carreer. Before becoming a film director, Anselmo went through a very successful carreer as an actor with main role appearances in 35 feature films. In 1957 he directed his 1st film. In 1962 he produced and directed "O Pagador de Promessas" (The Given Word) which was awarded 10 Best Film awards in major international film festivals around the world, including Cannes' Golden Palm and an Oscar nomination for Best Foreign Language Film. Well, as I was saying, to answer my question, Anselmo started puntuating that filmmaking, just like photography, is an all about matter of telling a story. In this precise pursuit, before telling the story, one must project beforehand the images of the story in his own mind. In this regard each individual projects those images with different visual perspectives which, under the optical world is translated into focal length glasses. Anselmo's own visual perspectives, he said, were by and large very much close to what a 28mm lens "sees". "I dream in 28mm focal length", he added. You pointed out correctly the human "normal" visual perspective as being that of a 50mm focal length. However, also as you underline, our spacial, lateral perception of the world "sees" much beyond the 50mm framing. Therefore, taking a picture or making a film in wider than the average human "in focus" view tells a story much richer in details, let's call them "subconscious" perspective beyond the restrictive confinement of the average, dull, 50mm focal length. Chosing a wide angular lens is not an easy choice for a filmmaker. The wider the perspective, the more elements needed to be visually "treated" by lighting and art directors. However, this more intensive hard work to put all together in shooting a scene pays off at the end, bringing about a richer immersion of the viewer into the story being told. If you have a chance, Samuel, watch some of the scenes of "O Pagador de Promessas" (KZread) and see by yourself what Anselmo meant by "richer immersion", particularly the scenes on the church's stairways. He used primarily Cooke 28mm glasses and Angenieux 40mm anamorphic. I am not surprised to realize that some of the most notable filmmakers developed their signature styles through the imagery of 28mm and wider focal lengths such as, Spielberg (21mm), Joel and Ethan Coen (27mm and 32mm - stays between 25-40mm), David Cronemberg (27mm), David Fincher (27mm and 35mm), Coppola (40mm anamorphic (most of Godfather)), Kubrik (18mm), Scorsese (25mm - 32mm), Terry Gilian (28mm and wider), Polansky (40mm anamorphic), etc. By the way, Anselmo's first ever experience in cinematography was dancing in a scene directed by Orson Wells, 1947 in Rio de Janeiro ("All is True"). "Citizen Kane", mind you, was filmed primarily in 27mm focal length. I can assure you that all of the above account on Anselmo Duarte's personal insights are all true. I am his son.

@pranavnarayanmanandhar7446

Жыл бұрын

but are the focal lengths you mentioned in 35mm equivalence? Because I guess when most of the filmmakers talks about focal lengths, they usually talk about it in s35 equivalence.

Relaxing and fun video! Thanx. I use 28 equivalent for street, maybe because I just restarted shooting a few years ago and I am a bit shy for some things, but then I realized how versatile it is. Started with two smallish Fujis (XT-20 and XE2) with the XF18mm F2.

Great episode and nice photo book collection there for sure! Having the GR3 myself I totally get the special appeal of this focal length for street-/documentary- and also architecture type photographing. It can be a challenge but also very rewarding when you find your groove on the streets with it.

Thanks for this, Samuel. I've been a 28mm guy since my early film days (I'm an old dude!). I now shoot with a Q and Q2M and couldn't be happier.

Congrats on the new camera and the purge 😁 always great to hear your thought process on how you choose the gear right for you! Great video as well where it's semi interview, chill, gear and insight.

This was a wonderful video discussion of the 28mm focal length. Thank you so much 😊

Great conversation. My favorite focal length. It just has an energy.

This was very interesting! I liked the relaxed vibe. I'm sooo looking forward to the return of On The Street With

Great Video and discussion! Big Fan of the channel! Thank you as always for the interesting content!

Very good 28mm street talk. Street Photography with the Leica Q2 & Ricoh GR III is so much fun!

@SamuelStreetlife

2 жыл бұрын

aw yees

I am stuck with 50mm and found it very hard to to switch. David man love you pajama and your flip flops, I spend thirty years combing my hair and now I realize how cool it looks when not doing it! I agree the 28mm helps in some situations, but I still love the 50mm.

Great video Samuel!!! Ah the Q2 I always wanted this, but couldn't justify the price. If you are ever in Bristol, I'll show you around a great city for street photography and the city of Bath an old Georgian city. I use the 18mm F2 on my Fuji cameras a lot, 35mm 0r 23mm on APSC is my preferred focal length. I loved the little clips dropped into the video. Nice touch.

Great Samuel. Please do. More like this.

Really enjoyed this. Just sold my Fuji X100f and thinking about a GRiii. Like your ‘real world’ comparison of 28 vs 35 mm! Thank you.

My well worn, completely satisfying combos are my Nikkor 20f3.5 ais and 24f2.8 ais on my two Nikon D300 dx cameras ( 30mm/36mm equivalent). I love the build quality of both lenses and cameras as well as superb performance especially close up!). Old school lenses and DSLRs for an old man who still feels like an excited young man from 1971.

Wow Leica Q2, it must be nice. Amazing conversation.

I've been shooting a GR3 and the original Leica Q for while now and enjoy the different experiences. They are redundant in focal length but I tend to shoot very different with each. Also, my Q has a problem with the EVF/LCD sensor so I turned it off and use it exclusively with the EVF. Now I have a viewfinder only camera and a LCD only camera, which is enough to make a difference.

Brilliant video, thanks.

17:02 that "buyer's remorse" look 😄😁😅 In all seriousness, the 28mm is the most versatile focal length followed by the 35mm. It takes time to get used to in terms of compositioning

It was a very interesting program. Keep it up! See you on your next video. Stay safe.

9:00 I had never thought about that before... Nice one!

Great Conversation..thanks !

The Q2 is absolutely amazing!!!

Good honest discussion. Well illustrated with superb images from various photographers. I'm not a yes man, but YES, this is an excellent video.🌟🌟🌟

Congratulation to the Q2 🙂 Enjoying mine since March and still using X100V and GFX50R with 50mm/F3.5

Nice video. I appreciate a lot the comparison between 28 and 35. I'd like so much the same video idea comparing the gr III and the new gr IIIx, in different "scenario" like wide street photography and maybe some "closer" photo. Anyway... awesome as usual. :)

What @stockezy said, I felt like I was chilling with you guys. Which in my case would be 100% accurate bc I barely talk., but I’m a good listener lol. It would be interesting to see a video where you talk about selling off gear. I have gear that has done it’s job but I can’t seem to let it go.

I still use my 8.1 megapixel Ricoh gr digital camera from 2006. 5.9mm 28mm equivalent lens. The perfect carry camera that's always with me. I also use a Ricoh 28mm 2.8 lens on a Petri gx1.

Great video !!!

Awesome content guys😎🤘🏼

I’m really happy I came across this video because I’ve been shooting street for many years on iPhone and I always love the wide perspective and the story I get from the context. But I have been criticised for not getting closer to my subjects and not being clear about where to focus. While it’s true and I may be a bit uncomfortable shoving my camera into people’s faces I also like to see certain situations as they are having the urge to capture the actual moment with everything that’s going on there. I’ve felt like I had to justify my choice of not being close enough. Your perspective actually is really helpful. I think I’m going to test the camera with 28, it’s been on my mind for some time now. Thank you for being authentic too.

@joeltunnah

2 жыл бұрын

If you’re happy with the results, you never have to justify it. People criticize everyone, even Cartier-Bresson gets skewered occasionally in KZread comments by some ignoramus.

@Equal_inDeath

2 жыл бұрын

@@joeltunnah I know this is from ages ago but thank you for your insight!

Aaaaah, when the drums drop at the beginning! Another great episode... looking forward to some OTSW though :)

Quality content!

Great conversation! When are you sharing your thoughts on the Leica Q2?

aCanon F1n wooow! Used to work with one of those, a tank literally. Just suscribe your channel and enjoy it very much, also learning a lot

You were the reason why I went to the Ricoh GRiii. But when I found about the Q2, I sold the GRiii and brought a Q2. Only regret I have is not waiting for the Q2m instead.

Love me some 28… I'd also love that Canon F1… 😍

What a great conversation. Felt like I was chilling with you guys. That 35mm anecdote blew my mind as well. Recently bought a 50mm but watching this has made me realize that my 28mm/35mm combo is all I need.

I was all set to make the new GR IIIx my first GR...but now I'm rethinking 28mm. Thanks alot guys! 😭

@zenquad

Жыл бұрын

I literally just got gr3x in the mail and i dont want to open it because the past few days i have been thinking that i really like the 28mm images more! I already ordered the grIII and im sending this one back... The urge to open the package is unreal but i just have to grind my teeth lol :D

Super cozy cool video📽💡🤩strongly considering buying the Ricoh GR ||| or |||x 📸📸 had you chosen the gr with new 40mm or 28mm?

I used 35mm for years. But since I could test the Leica Q2 for 2 weeks, I love 28mm. So I just bought the 18mm 1.4 for my Fujifilm and its and awesome lens.

I don’t like the Leica Q for zone focusing…the GR3 is better for that! Nice video!

The benefit of 28mm on a high res sensor is you can crop to mimic 35mm and still have respectable resolution. But on a 35mm you lose those details absolutely, with no turning back to the moment. That's why I chose the Ricoh GR III not IIIx. It's such a sharp camera it gives room to crop, whilst being versatile for street photography, especially if you're chasing Sun shadows to help frame, a wider lens gives you space to move, as you can't move the Sun!

I like how the mic is mounted on a film camera haha nice video, learned a lot

Great video... but, why are you never considering the Fujifilm XF10 which is for many of us a better choice than Ricoh due to a much better battery life and the inclusion of flash that supports high speed sync. And, the build is great as well as the the picture quality and it has a plethora of other features as well. Leica Q2 is for sure great but in a totally different league... XF10 review, please, danke viel mal!

I think 24mm is more like architectural/landscape focal length. Also 24mm is usually where distortion starts. 35mm is probably one of the best focal lengths but if you want a photo which is more versatile and more challenging to compose, 28mm is the best. 28mm gives you more challenge to compose your photos because you can mix wide/architectural shots with street/urban style.

@SamuelStreetlife

2 жыл бұрын

This topic is of course very subjective but I do agree : ) I have a big heart for 35mm as well but it's more fun to me to compose with 28mm or longer than 35mm.

@Yulad_A

2 жыл бұрын

To me 35mm is the awkward focal length. Not wide enough while also not close enough.

@joeltunnah

2 жыл бұрын

@@Yulad_A yes. 35mm is the plain middle sister.

@thatchinaboi1

2 жыл бұрын

35mm full frame equivalent is good for videography. More versatile than the 50mm. 😊

Still have the q and gr3. The SL2 is on my wishlist🤣 i need only 28mm and one tele like 200 mm

Please thank David for getting dressed up for the video.

When I saw the thumbnail I was like whaat, Donkey Doug shoots street? :D

I am surprised people still complain about dust in the gr2, it's quite easy to open it up and blow it out

4:20 what is this 😂 btw great video as always

Love 28 but wanna try zoom. Used Zoom lenses in my early photo-days for a year, want to try it again. Ricoh GR II isn't nice enough to crop...

Yeah I fell in love with the 28mm after watching your channel and seeing you use the ricoh gr. Also I took a course from Greg Williams and he uses the Leica Q2. So it pretty much influenced me to use it. But also, aside from that, I always held that it is the better focal length for story telling and context instead of isolating the subjects too much.

@LC-nd9hv

2 жыл бұрын

P.s. I shoot with the X-4 and the XF18mm f2. Love that set up. I don't care what people say about that lens. It rocks!

I didn't know the difference between 28 and 35 was barely half an arms length! Wow! Ricoh looks tempting now...

@JJ_Photo

2 жыл бұрын

It is not ;) Try to take a landscape photograph. You can not see much difference between the arm length. Also take a macro. Then you are in trouble... So it depends to the distance to your subject. So @ Samuel Streetlife is a bit off here.... But great video though!

In case David’s Leica is collecting dust, I can send him my wishlist for this xmas. He can be the Santa Claus or a charity worker 😊

A very impressive collection of photo books! I think I have him beat by my number of lens filters. Great chill video. Would like more in this style.

@SamuelStreetlife

2 жыл бұрын

Maybe I should do a couch talk tour and randomly crash at other photographers apartments/homes and interview them right after they woke up. Sounds like a plan! haha.

@sc0ttmagoon

2 жыл бұрын

@@SamuelStreetlife Do it! I approve.

@AManWhoWasntThere

2 жыл бұрын

@@SamuelStreetlife yes please!

@fellowcitizen

2 жыл бұрын

​+@@SamuelStreetlife and Alex, please make a 'IIIx-Files' episode with Ulysses standing in for David Duchovny. (You may need a redhead scientist, too.) ++ Also hashtag suggestion: #IIIx_Flex or #GRiiiX_Flex to show off new 40mm shots +++ Please sell us hotshoe covers of your MOUSTACHE insignia so we can tell our GRs apart. ++++ There's a great GR vs GR IIIx video of a Chinese girl called "木木夕Moi" shooting a model and some street in a Chinese metropolis. She uses the Pentax 201 flash as well (is it limited to 1/30, I hope not). I was surprised to find she only has 90 subscribers - you guys should reach out to her, perhaps connect her with Ricoh for a video. It's called '理光 RICOH GR IIIx 第一手體驗！街拍人像一個都不能少' (no subtitles, only Mandarin, watch?v=LRNNfN8LPec )

any idea how to get featured in that world street photobook? Man I am genuinely excited to take my cameras back on the street after covid lockdowns

Fujifilm X70 has a fixed 28mm f2,8 lens. I wish it would have a viewfinder and I'd buy it straight away

I never got 28mm, I had this weird perception that wide was for landscapes, and everything just ended up dull. Then I started using it "close" for street stuff, and I think I do finally get it. I've got into this odd place where I like 28mm and 100mm. (That said, I started shooting half frame, and 38mm portrait, about 56mm equiv, and am loving it, partly I think 'cos the lens I have has 25cm min focusing distance).

@SamuelStreetlife

Жыл бұрын

Yes sometimes it takes a while until you can appreciate 28mm :)

Samuel, what do you think about the Ricoh Gr digital 2?

Great vid man! Where can I also get a q2 for a great price of $3500 like you?

Thanks for showing us your pyjamas.

I have 28mm but I still prefer 35mm even over the standard 50mm. Don’t ever need any wider and it lets me get in for the occasional street portrait with no fuss.

Cool, Pyjama from Ricoh with a Sticker R 😉😀 Nice Story 👍

8.53min. Exactly...I heared a choir softly singing...

You guys look cute together. 😂 It's like I'm watching an awkward first date. 😂 Seriously, great video! Love the casual interview. 😃

Besides your accents, of course, your English is pretty good, guys ✅

as a long time viewer i also missed the times when there was less talk about gear

Hi Samuel, welchen Lenshood verwendest du an deiner Q2? Link wäre awesome :)

@tohammer100

2 жыл бұрын

Danke für die Antwort ... Nicht ... 👌

So hat halt jeder seine Präferenzen. Freue mich aber , das Ricoh jetzt seine GR 3 mit einer längeren Brennweite ausstattet . 40 mm ist für mich so ein Sweetspot nicht zu nah , aber auch nicht zu weit . Für Street und People perfekt .

@SamuelStreetlife

2 жыл бұрын

Genau! Bin auf jeden fall glücklich das Ricoh jetzt zwei meiner favoriten dabei hat : )

28 is the king since Winograd did it. And once you adapt to it, next call is 21 :) . Winograd liked it too. Except peripheral distortions.

@SamuelStreetlife

2 жыл бұрын

21mm has its charm! I use 21mm sometimes when I am at a party and use flash :D

And the GRx?

You should have kept the Leica M!! Hope you don’t regret it.

@SamuelStreetlife

2 жыл бұрын

I haven't regretted it since :) But it has been only 5 month without the M.

@splootan

2 жыл бұрын

@@SamuelStreetlife Q2 still a great camera!

In fact 35mm is a good primary focal length and 28mm as second. As smartphones mostly have 28mm I think that you could become the new "standard". 50mm is from old days and too narrow in my opinion. Better use a 35mm and crop.

I wonder though,why not the X100V? Personally I hate the colours of fuji but I have heard a lot of different reasonings behind why people will avoid the X100V and I am curious to hear your opinion on that.

@SamuelStreetlife

2 жыл бұрын

The video title should have answered your question already : ) I prefer the 28mm focal length (full frame equiv.) therefore the X100V is not for me.

@kubowich

2 жыл бұрын

@@SamuelStreetlife why everybody is acting like WCL does not even exist? This is beyond me

@SamuelStreetlife

2 жыл бұрын

@@kubowich I had it and it made the X100 feel out of balance and it was annoying me after a while. Other than that, great option with little to no image quality losses.

@gaarakabuto1

2 жыл бұрын

@@SamuelStreetlife I figured that the focal length was a reason but from what I've seen from your reactions I thought there was a more important deal breaker on the X100 series overall.

@SamuelStreetlife

2 жыл бұрын

@@gaarakabuto1 oh that was just because It was the first time for me trying out the X100V and I couldn’t figure out how to deactivate the touchscreen. But that is not a dealbreaker :)

When is Ricoh GR IV coming?

@JaKrish

2 жыл бұрын

Griiix coming out October 2021

Now do 28 vs 40 😊

I know Choco Pie, now I know Choco Bean.

Q2 at $3500 - where I can get such a deal ? :)

exactly - bring us the GRii back with the built-in flash and an iconic 28mm, and without IS but with more buttons on the back. and the dust... do something instead of trying pushing more customers-newcomers with 40mm and tomorrow with 60 (?) My 4 years old (possible 5 - I bought it used on eBay) GR (GRii without WIFI) died two weeks ago and now I'm looking to buy another GR-GRii (16.2mp), not iii or iiix.

I'm really nervous, just hang on a moment while I get my pyjamas... Like Clarke Kent to Superman

Great video but what about my grocery bag? #ripgrocerybag

so, this clip is to justify your purchase of the q2, isn’t it ;)

I don't like 28mm, and i shoot 90-95% with just 35mm. If i need something wider, i choose 24mm.

If Davids Blad is unwanted, just send it to me ... 😉

But why the pyjamas?

I think that I will end my struggle with focal lengts and cameras just by buying some cheap compact camera with stepzoom functionality and be happy ever after :-)

@joeltunnah

2 жыл бұрын

A zoom for street is definitely underrated. See the Eyexplore channel.

@morgtv1023

2 жыл бұрын

Got a 24mm-720mm Lumix TZ70 lolz but I guess it'll never match the sharpness of a Q2 or GR III. The trade off usually is the senzor size

@joeltunnah

2 жыл бұрын

@@morgtv1023 sharpness and resolution are meaningless in street photography. Nobody is printing poster size street photos for wall mounting. Moriyama uses a cheap Nikon pocket camera.

@morgtv1023

2 жыл бұрын

@@joeltunnah True and I agree, but what about shooting at night? It would be hard to freeze a shot or get it sharp due to slow SS. Bumping it to ISO 6400 or 3200 on a 1/2.3 and slow lens isn't really ideal either

@joeltunnah

2 жыл бұрын

@@morgtv1023 that’s a different game. If freezing movement at night is your thing, you should buy a so-called “full frame” camera.

I'm a 28mm shooter as well...the closer you are the better plus in asian streets that are too tight your 35 and 50 is almost no use....

Cell phone focal length.

WHAAAAAAAT Q2 !!!!!!!

why is he in his pyjamas?

If anyone wants a link to the full KROLOP & GERST interview: kzread.info/dash/bejne/g22dtseNh7jQpMY.html

@SamuelStreetlife

2 жыл бұрын

Oh thanks for the reminder! I forgot to link that video in the show notes :)

It's interesting how uncomfortable you seem to be carrying expensive gear. It seems like it really bothers you to have something that seems extravagant or is interpreted by others as extravagant. People who do craft work love to have really nice tools to do that craftwork and sometime they just want a beautiful tool (which of course is expected to have high quality also). It's 100% okay you dumped the leica but I think a lot of it has to do with how you feel others will interpret you and even your own comfort with something that is expensive. Which is very interesting. End of the day you should do what you are most comfortable with, of course but I do think if you could let go of that piece, you would not have even cared at all and could have enjoyed your leica experience with less discomfort. Some people have acted that way when I had the Canon 5D, they would be like OH THATS A CAMERA and react to it in a big way in particular if I had a big lens on it. I ignored it and did not care at all, I loved those camera's and they work for me exquisitely. Recently tho to get a canon R5 would cost the same amount as the leica.. and I have an R6.. I just wanted more MP's so for fun I decided to go the Leica route to try something new. I feel like the canon line has been grossly overpriced.. I could get a 5D always for 3k.. and now its 5K for what seems to be the equivalent. I just got mad canon increased the price so much from a line I have purchased for over 15 years. (I bought a 5D classic used, later got a mark III and then a Mark IV I sold for the R6 so I could access RF glass and have a smaller body). But I used to get a big response to those canon's if I walked around with them from people acting like I had a leica basically. No one I know in real life has a clue what a leica is, which has been surprisingly nice I will admit to not have that "zomg thats expensive reaction" but I have learned being a little older that these are things I earned, these are things I want and I do not care what others think. If it made you uncomfortable of course you should not keep it, but I would say do not worry about that in ANY of your gear, you owe no one an explanation and if they interpret one expensive item as meaning you're loaded thats on them not you. I do think sometimes we identify ourselves as a certain type of person and when we move out of that it can feel uncomfortable if there are stereotypes around other items we may have or want. it could be the house you live in, the car you drive.. or even the clothing you wear. We have all created architectypes of who we are and where we "fit in" but in reality those are silly.

feet

He's a grown man. Wear some fucking socks.

If you like 28mm just wait until you try an iPhone 6 you can even text, and make phone calls.

Do you guys know... A cute girl is modeling her bra in the ad before your clip? Boy, her ad is a hard act to follow.