Why Used Tesla Cars Are SO CHEAP (But Don't Buy One)
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Why are used Tesla's are so cheap, and why you shouldn't buy one is what we're talking about today. You won't believe the reasons that I share with you for why you should not buy a used Tesla. We're going to break down Tesla prices, the Tesla models that these issues hit the hardest, and some of the overall problems with used electric cars and SUVs.
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Thank you for your voice calling out all the auto industry fraud aka conning of American consumers. Majority of youtube influencers lie because they are on the automaker payroll.
@ECPP
3 күн бұрын
Thanks very much and, yes, I tell like it is and am not on a payroll. I lived the garbage corporate life for a long time and I vowed that I want to tell things how they are and not BS
@EnriqueAThieleSolivan
3 күн бұрын
True. American automakers do not know how to make an afordable and reliable EV. Thay pay for influencers to talk bad about them.
Shocking. Cars are not an investment -- they are a consumable.
@eraldhoxha6372
2 күн бұрын
They are investment but not for you to earn more money but for you to be more safe on the roads
@N20Joe
2 күн бұрын
@@eraldhoxha6372 Unless you use it to get to work or do your work.
@eraldhoxha6372
2 күн бұрын
@@N20Joe also is some tipe of investment
Tesla doesn’t give you a new battery under warranty. It’s a refurbished battery. They replace bad cells in a pack with new ones but don’t touch the old cells. This is like mixing old and new light bulbs. The old ones are just as likely to fail as the bad ones. Thus, these refurbished packs often need to be replaced again.
@sirbum1918
2 күн бұрын
And that means secondhand Teslas become worthless.
Only fair. The tax issue. As far as reliability and subsequent costs, they can talk to me after my 20 year old Impala and Explorer are hauled off dead. Until then….
What i can't seem to communicate with those buying ev cars is that electric cars are not green as electricity still needs to be produced cleanly without hydrocarbons.
@N20Joe
2 күн бұрын
That's the easy part with nuclear. The dirty part is strip mining all the battery metals and the spewing of those extremely toxic and dangerous elements back into the environment when one gets wrecked, junked, and/or catches fire.
@caldera6869
Күн бұрын
Not everyone buying EVs has bought into the climate activism agenda. Both types have their pro's/cons, not convinced either is significantly better in that area. If your aim is to limit human impact on earth vs using earth to maximize human flourishing, then your end agenda is depopulation with a fair bit of human suffering along the way.
The same took place with conventional Detroit made cars. New models appearing every year in the matket, driving used cars down. E-Vs are evolving by leaps-and-bonds. Getting better every year. Furthermore, conventional vehicles became Computers on 4 wheels. Chips and electronics go bust, if a car is left for one year parked in a garage. Gone are the days when a car left for years in a barn, could be started after a fair maintenance session.
@ECPP
Күн бұрын
Nice
I was thinking of used tesla but you're right they are not going to save you money on the long run if you have to replace the battery that costs a fortune.
@caldera6869
Күн бұрын
It's far less grim than this video depicts. First, if you are in US, 30% point of sale credit on used EV up to $4K, up to $7.5K off new. Takes a bite out of the fear on the front end. Given how low many used prices are right now, great value to be had in a used Tesla. I have 135K mikes on my original 10yo Tesla battery. It's doing great and am not worried in the least about this FUD. When purchased I priced out the breakeven miles to pay for battery replacement and made an informed decision with good understanding of risk.
@darinladick6666
Күн бұрын
Just get an extended warranty!
I remember Elon said after 200,000 miles the vehicle would have 80% of its battery life. There is an engineering channel where he tests and rates the batteries in different EV’s. If I’m not mistaken, Tesla was at the top. Kona did reasonably well also
@ECPP
Күн бұрын
Yes if the battery is treated properly, as in never overcharge beyond 80per ent or grossly run it out all the time, it can go a long time. With that said, 80 percent is not good. Look at a regular lead acid battery, with no load if it reads 12 volts even it’s toast
I like the video and WOW amazing TY so much ,,Keep up the great work
@ECPP
Күн бұрын
Thank you
Love this channel! Keep up the good work. I just purchased a Mach E and totally regret it.
Food for thought there, great video once again. Here in the UK, the charging infrastructure is lacking and is expensive to access. Our domestic energy costs are insane compared to most other countries. So for the foreseeable future, I’m happy with my diesel Audi and petrol Toyota
@ECPP
Күн бұрын
Well said. I love modern turbo diesels a ton of power and a great economical Solution
Love the channel
@ECPP
3 күн бұрын
Thanks very much and welcome to the channel.
Keep producing this kind of content.
Just drove from San Francisco to San Diego. Stopped once for 5 minutes for gas. Saw lots of Tesla owners sitting in their cars at chargers in BFE
you're speaking about a new Model 3 in Europe !? this is an old video, right?
@moose1485
2 күн бұрын
He's also saying battery replacements cost 25K LOL... this guy is confused.
I got a used model 3 2022 long range for 24500$. Add to that the no sales tax and 4k$ used ev rebate in nj. I got an absolutely perfect model 3 with 36k miles on it for 20500$. Whenever I tell someone they think I got an absolutely amazing deal. And I agree!
@ECPP
8 сағат бұрын
Cheers
An EV is just a throw away.
@ECPP
3 күн бұрын
Indeed
@pinchofgold5
3 күн бұрын
@@ECPP we need a video for the 2022+ BMW G42 2 series coupe reliability especially the 230i 🙏🥹
@manoman0
2 күн бұрын
The mass EV market has just started to build up and good solutions are not yet here. This market needs to develop just like the market for the ICE had to. Or for the Diesel engine for normal cars. Have some patience. EV's have their market.
@Areku06
2 күн бұрын
Tesla model 3 battery and motor made to last 500k miles, 15-20 years. There are plenty of model 3 LR that have 300-400k+ miles on original everything. IMO EV will last 2x more than average ice car. I had 2 EVs now and plenty of BMW’s, Audi, Mercedes which are money pits after warranty expires. I love my 2018 model 3, with 100k miles, saved thousands on fuel, still have original brakes, battery has 92% life left. Also batteries for model 3 is $10k, engine replacement on bmw/audi is also $10k+. In reality EVs have 50 moving parts vs 500+ moving parts on ice car. There is way more things to break on ice car. This is FUD.
@caldera6869
Күн бұрын
@Areku06 key here is you have a Tesla. An outsized portion of those disappointed in their EVs bough a half-hearted adapted design from a large ICE manufacturer, vs a purebred solution. Others bought from a small startup, which will naturally have more issues. Look at how far Tesla has come since the S launch 12 years ago.
The talent on display is incredible!
I expect a Tesla to be like an iPhone. Disposable after the battery goes unless it’s worth spending 20 k for a replacement battery!
Sir, the Chevrolet Volt is one of the best EREVs out there. 160k miles and getting my 70-85 km out of a single charge.
Based on what data itˆs a given that batteries will need to be replaced after 10 years?
Tesla only BEV that didn’t have battery recall. Porsche, Audi, Chevy, Hyundai all had battery recalls. Also software is much better on Tesla compared to Hyundai for example which is a mess.
@ECPP
Күн бұрын
Nice
Anyone who has tried to buy tesla spare parts know you need a presidential decree to be sold any part by the dealerships 😂
It actually is a good idea to buy used I got mine for 20 grand cheaper than new and it's almost brand new
@ECPP
Күн бұрын
I agree, the market has shifted a bit and now depreciation hits them hard so it’s better to buy used a couple years anyway. I would not buy an 8 year old car
Short term...long term...it costs you money for every revolution those tires make on the road. It is "how much" each revolution costs you. You either pay with your left hand or your right hand...either way you're going to pay...no matter what!
1:21 fuel economy? I blame the return of the patch 😷🤣😂 Thank you for the free knowledge Sir.
@ECPP
3 күн бұрын
Haha thanks
Because the dealers know there are some stupid people will come to the lot and buy one.😂😂😂
It’s mostly the battery that’s a big turn off. A minor crash or even the slightest dent could damage the battery pack. Also degradation of battery is what scares ppl off
@gangatalishis
2 күн бұрын
The degradation isn’t even that bad. It’s overblown imo.
The depreciation has a lot to do with Telsa flooding the market...all the drones have one..most common car on the road in OC Calif..supply and demand out the window😂😂😂😂😂
@ECPP
Күн бұрын
Yes indeed
Battery prices has come down and will continue to do so. In ten to 12 years (in an ICE car the motor and transmission will be gone since they are designed for 150,000 miles only) Quote "The price of EV batteries is projected to drop 40% between 2023 and 2025, per a new Goldman Sachs research note." March 15, 2024. That is only a two year span. !2 years the battery will be very cheap, and there will be a business for replacing old batteries for newer ones that use less rare metals. The old battery will make several new batteries.
@CitrusBoyz
3 күн бұрын
Exactly. I look forward to the day my battery is no longer sufficient to run my tesla because then I can use it as a solar battery storage bank. used batteries at auto wreckers cost between 6-8K and can be installed considerably faster and cheaper then internal combustion engines.
@asajayunknown6290
2 күн бұрын
I have five vehicles with 200k+ miles. One has 370k, and going strong. Will not be spending $50k+ on anything new soon, maybe ever. Just don't see the point of car payments, and expensive insurance, and expensive registration. You do you, I'll do me😊
@michaelmallon6346
2 күн бұрын
Hertz is selling low milage Tesla model 3 for a little over 20 - 23 k and there is also rebates that may apply
@solidtmj
2 күн бұрын
Come on man. When has the price of anything gone down ?
Beard > soul patch
@ECPP
3 күн бұрын
for sure.....Video created before beard. Still rocking the facial bit
Bought used 8yo Tesla MS with free supercharging and premium connectivity. Zero fear of battery issues. Now at 10yo 135k+ miles. There are folks running 400K miles on original battery. At my cost to charge, if I get 100k out of the battery, it will pay for its replacement based on gas savings alone, given a 0-100% charge would cost me a max of about $10 charging at home.
Byd has Tesla sweating
@ECPP
Күн бұрын
yes they do
which electric car is the most durable and give you the longest lifespan?? It seems one has to be lucky for one of these electric cars to last 10 years.
The home charger will probably have a counter with an higher rate per Kwh.
O" YES, the infrastructure is not there, never will be for at least 100 years from now, maybe.
@ECPP
3 күн бұрын
True it’s a slow wheel
@N20Joe
2 күн бұрын
$6 Billion and several years spent by our government and they only built 6 chargers. Not looking good...
🤔…I’m here in the Nation’s Capital & lately I’m seeing paper tags on Tesla’s every where I look, more so than any other used vehicle. I guess people are following the Y.O.L.O motto 🤷🏾♂️👍🏾 !
@1millionstartups
3 күн бұрын
I'm in DC too and I think folks in the know already got the memo on EV credits after election.
@ECPP
3 күн бұрын
Haha yes indeed. people have it figured out I guess, lol
Where are they cheap exactly? Cus in canada they are still ridiculous if your talking about the Canadian market vrs the American market , then yes they are a lot cheaper in America but it appears your in canada so cheap they are not
@ECPP
Күн бұрын
Yes you are right and I have found Canadians get hosed on everything retail.
The only time I'd recommend an EV is to those who only drive to church on Sundays. At least they don't carbon up when driven very little
So, what do you think about the future of electric cars? Should you buy them or avoid them at all cost?
@ECPP
Күн бұрын
I am a believer in personal choice and they offer fun, sort of exonomical driving solutions, the certainly show their limitations and I personally am not in a rush as I prefer to stay “off the grid “ and I like to be able to travel anywhere. But with that said, the tech and batteries are likely Improving and ideally making things cheaper as more brands get on board so waiting is best not to mention alternative fuels like synthetics engineered by the Germans, or Hydrogen or the natural push back by buyers means to me, that it will never be totally mandated. Gotta do it for your own reasons
From Europe: I have recently purchased an used diesel car, 12 years old, for about 1/3 of its original price. An EV of that age is simply worthless.
You’ve so hit the nail on the head with the current probs of the electric cars! I’m all for protecting the planet from the harm we humans are causing on a daily basis , but reality is , the average Joe can’t afford to buy electric cars and of course the resulting running costs, batteries, not enough infrastructure, unable to plan longer journeys without range anxiety , etc etc… as it currently stands it’s just a gimmick for the rich and the need for more production of electricity ⚡️ ….. well what is producing electricity at the power stAtions presently? 😑. Although I’m not a fan, I agree that the hybrid is still the best balance we have at the moment 😐. I wish they’d carry on investing on the hydro cell technology tbh…. As it stands at the moment , electric cars aren’t the real solution unfortunately, I know we have to start somewhere but unless you’re just doing short journeys and the batteries aren’t improved, we’re not there yet with electric cars, invest on hydrogen technology!
Tesla is too hard and too smart for normal people like me to service the car. Also, the part is expensive 😅
E-Cars loose value as IPhones ;-)
@ECPP
3 күн бұрын
Yes some of the hardest depreciating vehicle types around
With batteries, is it miles or years? I hear a lot of ev fan boys claiming they got 250,000 or even 300,000 miles. I call bull because EV's haven't been out in quantities for very long. And if they did drive that many miles in 5/6/7 years that's a hell of a long time at charging stations, that i hear are nightmares. But forget that for a moment, is it the miles that affected battery life or just time. Please share your thoughts.
@lot2196
2 күн бұрын
Even if they did charge at home, they would have to have charged on the road to put that many miles in such a short time.
Its the QC issues for me...shouldn't be that way on such a pricey car
@EnriqueAThieleSolivan
3 күн бұрын
Tesla brand new ev (model 3) is thousands less than the average US new car price. People never check facts before giving opinions on a subject.
@thebrownthomascrown917
3 күн бұрын
@@EnriqueAThieleSolivan The Creator actually stated that Tesla has been undercutting the used car market for their cars. He also stated that the QC issues have been improving...what does that have to do with the USED cars from the brand?
Ev should be lifetime ownership.
If you want an EV, I have a digital Rolex to sell...
They are Endless Money Pits - Scotty Kilmer :)
@sydjaguar
12 сағат бұрын
No money pit. Scotty is wrong cos he doesn't have a clue about EV..he is a bloody mechanic not an electrical engineer
@ECPP
8 сағат бұрын
And a mechanic who spends how much time actually wrenching in the last 29 years?
@eman0828
2 сағат бұрын
Not mention a used battery pack cost $19,000 which will end up as an endless money pit once another battery cell gets weak playing wack-o-mole. They are essentially throw away cars.
Hello 2024 Cadillac XT4
@ECPP
8 сағат бұрын
Cheers
Isn’t it because the price of full self driving keeps going up? Im fine with my manual ice cars but I know they are going to 3x fuel prices due to the climate clown 🤡
Who else is here because of the comments?
I love Tesla
Tesla is like a cult. Taking ownership of a Tesla is like the story of Dr. Frankenstein and his monster, or the Rabbi and the Golem. Good luck.
@ECPP
3 күн бұрын
Haha I love it
@stockey
3 күн бұрын
Like Apple.
tesla's need brake flushes like any other car, every 2 years
The same reason used BMWs, Range Rovers and Audi are so cheap. They’re unreliable junk that cost a fortune to repair and most people are smart enough to not touch them with a 50 foot pole.
@asajayunknown6290
2 күн бұрын
You forgot "gorgeous". Yes, definitely still junk, but seriously pretty all the way to the junkyard😊
Used Tesla..."Free or Best Offer...your choice!"
EVs are NOT ready for primetime. Dont be a hero, let somebody else storm the beach.
@ECPP
3 күн бұрын
Cheers
@kaijen2688
3 күн бұрын
And you are the reason the US auto industry is so far behind the Chinese. If it weren't for Tesla we wouldn't have a dog in the race.
The build quality of a 90’s Chrysler my friend. Take a closer look at a 4-5 year old Tesla the next time you are out and about. Paint blistering, loose door handles, deteriorated weather stripping, delaminated clear coatings… absolute trash.
No matter the price of the EV they are a life time of spend, spend, spend. A headache for your pocket book and more your bank account..
@ECPP
3 күн бұрын
Everything like this is by design
You think you save gas money. But when you have to replace with new batteries they cost much more than the gas money you’d saved. Conclusion, EV isn’t cheaper
Battery prices are going down constantly man. Total BS. Stick to ICE
@ECPP
8 сағат бұрын
Thanks fornwatching
The message in this video is, dont buy a electric vehicle, in my opinion. Personally im my own person so i drive what suites my needs. If i want to switch from gas to electric, my choice. Have this guy owned an ev and has driven it over 250000km, to justify what hes saying. If he has really good. If not then........
@ECPP
Күн бұрын
Thanks and I had one for awhile but not 250000
Cheap, not a thought, those cars are junk. What the battery cost more than the car, after depreciation. The sellers saying o" no they don't have any problems. Ya" right, right. Those cars don't sell. And it's because of the force push of electric cars. That truthfully are actually worse for the environment..! The cost of operation, time to charge, no station's, mechanic to fix them. Poor quality a known fact. Yes Sr. Nothing but problems..! One thing for sure, heat us an enemy of all electronic equipment. Any equipment or motors. Worse, intervention of the government in your personal life. Where are you. He ows money. Lock down his car so he can't use it, through satellite control. Electronic waves to your car..no, no, no, not even a thought.
EV waight much more and faster destroy roads
@ECPP
Күн бұрын
Yes that will be a factor
I’m a life long car fan. I bought a Tesla Model 3 three years ago. Not because I’m a tree hugger…but because they are fast,fun,low maintenance, reliable and cost efficient. It’s been the best car I’ve ever owned and I still get excited every day getting into it and driving it. People hate on EVs because it’s something for them to do. They have a very uneducated opinion on them.
@ECPP
3 күн бұрын
That’s a great point and every drive in a Tesla has been memorable as the performance is peppy and the get in a go with nonwarmup is great too. The. If challenge I find is it’s likely not going to suffice as the only car in the household, at least not easily. Thanks for the feedback
@Vincent-ke5zn
3 күн бұрын
It's fast, but won't last
@carlturner4344
3 күн бұрын
Most of the anti Ev sentiment is down to people being forced to move from ICE and as tax payers pay for it. Tesla are great cars, and like buying a new GSM you will get more for less each year. New battery tech will hit used car prices over the next few years.
@Dontknowshit
3 күн бұрын
Uneducated?
Just got rid of my Model 3 performance for a new Silverado. Never doing EV again. Model 3 was cool at first but all your gas savings are gone and then some with insane depreciation, way more than an ICE. So that’s not even a wash. Plus body repair costs much higher. And insurance usually higher. Tesla service also suckssss. Stay away.
When I buy a Tesla, the sun will set in the north
For a while ( when first released ) Tesla was considered "Gucci"....So, the Gucci's flocked to these to Rent/Lease these over time, I, and Many many others simply shake our heads at these owners.....Considering them stupid...Do not want STRESS on ...Do Not be fooled simply look at body gaps and cheap interior many models have cheap Phelopean wood on dash etc. & why STRESS with Range Anxiety...Beware! Jus' consider a Plug-in Hybrid where you have choice between Regular gas or elec. for your Daily Driver.
You can pick up a 2 year old Tesla for about 20k. That gives you 6 years on the battery and about 90k before the warranty expires. I have racked up over 200k and still have 87% of the battery. How many ICE vehicles go 200k miles and still run like the day it rolled out.
@jcherestal
Күн бұрын
How often do you charge to 100? Or let it go below 20
@kaijen2688
Күн бұрын
@jcherestal it depends as an lfp I charge at home. When on trips I'll let ot get down to 20 and charge it to 80.
1) mass production by a long shot 2) gay af 3) lame af 4) elon 🤡
@ECPP
Күн бұрын
Cheers
Reminds me when they preferred horses to cars😂 I agree EVs are expensive and just like the early big screen TVs.
It's simpler for me. I think of Elon Musk as a world class hustler. I don't do business with unsavory, unprincipled characters. No Tesla for me, thank you.
@ECPP
3 күн бұрын
Indeed agree Don, always a fast talking hustler trying to take over the globe
@JOHNWLOUCKS
3 күн бұрын
One of the reasons I would never buy a tesla....Musk !
Why Tesla are so cheap, because nobody wants them, in Canada, they're still expensive, when you buy a used Tesla, you're playing Russian roulette., and nobody except Tesla can fix them, so they can overcharge you a lot.
There’s a lot of wrong information in this video regarding EVs. The main point about battery replacement is very wrong. EV batteries last 10-20 years. Many Teslas are on the same battery and have gone 200,000+ miles. They don’t cost $20,000 to replace. Currently a Tesla battery replacement is $10,000-$12,000 and it’s only getting cheaper with time.
@zsb707
2 күн бұрын
Batteries lasting 10 years or 20 years? Not the same! Battery replacement costing $10,000 ... that's a lot of money tbh.
More weight and torque will damage roads.
@kaijen2688
3 күн бұрын
Put it in chill mode. It weighs less than most SUV's better mileage than my Journey on tires.
Here is the ntruth about Tesla motors "The motor replacement is about $6,000 USD. The battery anywhere from $13,000 to $20,000. However this is covered by an 8 year warranty for both drive unit(s) and battery. And these are official tesla prices. Prices as of now. In 12 years it will become very cheap.
The hate on EV real but it shouldn’t be. How much do you save on gas for 10-12 years and no maintenance on EV. Factor that in and you’ll still be cheaper then gas
@ECPP
3 күн бұрын
Thanks a lot, and yes its a very polarizing manufacturer. Many love them and many dont. Its largely a digital control thing and why people dont want anything to do with "being connected"
@John-ny6yy
3 күн бұрын
Electric rates are sky rocketing, how can you even make a prediction like that with unknown variables..
@markday5797
3 күн бұрын
Check on insurance rate, I understand that some insurance companies don't even wright contracts. Look before you leap.
@hermanpeters549
3 күн бұрын
@@John-ny6yy how can you’ll not factor in that part. Most manufacturers are giving two years of free charge with EV go
@dwnwind
3 күн бұрын
Overall picture. It may work for some car owners. But for me, I look at tire and battery replacement, insurance, lack of infrastructure, taxes. Not ready to drink the Kool-Aid.
Cheap EVs are great, it will only increase EV adoption. Just let China in and its game over for ICE cars.
The electric vehicles should pay more because the electric vehicles weigh more, which means more stress on the road
Don't know why, Vancouver Canada seem to have plenty of Tesla, wonder if we just have too many filthy rich or stupid rich people here.
@JOHNWLOUCKS
3 күн бұрын
It's Edmonton
@zsb707
2 күн бұрын
Those rich people buying Teslas may call those who buy expensive ICE vehicles 'stupid rich people' 😊. It's only a matter of perspective. I'm 50 and own two ICE cars, will probably never buy an EV though ...
Tesla never competes with another ev makers. Tesla only competes against the ICE cars. This demostrates how ignorant you are about ev and their goals.
dude, all you’re doing is talking a bunch nonsense, nothing you’re saying has any basis in fact.
Never bye a ev ist big scam
@ECPP
8 сағат бұрын
Thanks for sharing