I like how they use Riley for everything that has to do with making strange looking poses

@donovanleemurphy9349

3 жыл бұрын

Riley has become the Yajirobe of LMG.

@jenibond

3 жыл бұрын

Yep !! Ned Flander (Riley look like) is good at that LOL

@bioglassmusic

3 жыл бұрын

@@jenibond In Riley's early moustache days he looked like a creepy italian race car driver. I called him Stephano.

@super_decade5632

3 жыл бұрын

you only liao once

@NanashiCAST

3 жыл бұрын

Riley is a productive boy

A touchscreen computer makes Riley a productive boy. :)

@kietquang6651

3 жыл бұрын

He always is :)

@godfather7339

3 жыл бұрын

Linux users who don't even touch the mouse : |

@binarymatrixlol8197

3 жыл бұрын

@@godfather7339 lol exactly command-line only

@godfather7339

3 жыл бұрын

@@binarymatrixlol8197 actually I meant that most people like me get irritated with moving our hands to the mouse every 5 secs, so a lot of linux people set everything to keyboard shortcuts(I'm still getting thier), this means that you can work really fast, but you'll have to remember all the shortcuts...

@ssnjr1299

3 жыл бұрын

@@binarymatrixlol8197 tiling window managers

As a digital artist, I’d kill for a 2-in-1 MacBook Pro. To be able to both sketch and do office work on a single Apple device with desktop software would be super convenient for me.

@aninditabasak7694

Жыл бұрын

Apple has excellent features like Sidecar and Universal Control.

@SunnyExMusic

Жыл бұрын

Yes dude. Only reason I want a touchscreen macbook. Just to use procreate and get rid of my iPad

@omargoalzz

Жыл бұрын

Apple wants you to spend more money to get more devices so it doesn't do that.

@hamzaworldgym

Жыл бұрын

@@SunnyExMusic ءبؤ ظظ،.ءسشعع ظددض2

@user-vt6td9hp3g

7 ай бұрын

A dilettante shouldn't call himself an artist.

"What kind of monster puts the dock on the side?" - That would be me for the last 10 years, Hi.

@gmart225

3 жыл бұрын

Same

@MsToshi1990

3 жыл бұрын

Me too!

@othermoose

3 жыл бұрын

Need to make the argument that it's better on the side. Gives you more window space.

@calebsoaring

3 жыл бұрын

#sideandhide gang

@ethylg7572

3 жыл бұрын

Same! I have so much more real estate on the sides and am not giving up height on documents for the dock.

Now I understand what Linus means by, "We hired a guy with apple fans way of thinking." This kind of thinking wouldn't ever occurred for pc guy.

@BonJoviBeatlesLedZep

3 жыл бұрын

Agreed. I don't think this is something even Anthony or Riley would come up with and they use Mac all the time. Jonathan is on Snazzy Labs level of understanding Apple.

@victor-oh

3 жыл бұрын

And this couldn't have been a better decision. A channel for apple users, directed by an apple user

@MvsG18

3 жыл бұрын

Ya'll people still think Apple Users are just dumbshit, well some of them we're not, and he's making a fine work. Stfu

@MvsG18

3 жыл бұрын

He's just fine, I'm tired of the dead ass pc gamer that if a laptop doesn't run Rise of the TR with a 3090 at 650 fps, its a bad laptop.

@marioStortuga

3 жыл бұрын

@@MvsG18 nobody is saying that here except you so you're validating your own argument for it. 🤣

That taped screen represents the kind of DIY spirit we all know and love from LMG

@halvardlund4782

3 жыл бұрын

At LMG we always YOLO :D

@manaspradhan8041

3 жыл бұрын

@@stevewang bruh, they have made water-cooling setups that involve using a fucking bucket. You think this is off limits? Their old school Friday videos were even more insane, 24x7 jank

@MustafaThePieceOfDust2001

2 ай бұрын

@@manaspradhan8041nah L you

I'd just like iPadOS to not be a castrated OS and be able to do some actual development work on those beasts of machines.

@matekovacs2696

3 жыл бұрын

EXACTLY. iPadOS could as well be called NetflixOS or PencilOS, as it isn't good for anything other than content consumption and graphics/handwriting/drawing. The new iPad Pro, with full Thunderbolt support, M1 chip, XDR screen, LIDAR sensor, Magic Keyboard... But then it is all for nothing because iPadOS is still just a little more than "iOS but bigger". Just imagine... Scanning something with the LIDAR, and importing straight into your favorite CAD software. Programming on the go, on a super efficient, small, lightweight device. Writing code, and navigating the database map / UML diagram by touch. Drawing by pencil, and then using full Adobe suite to edit it.

@DrAnimePhD

2 жыл бұрын

THANK YOU! It’s why I thought putting M1 in the iPad Pro was foolish since the iPad can’t take full advantage of the Mac’s chip. No multiuser support, no sideloading, and no pro apps means you’ll never get the full experience with iPadOS, and with the Mac chip in it and it being more expensive than a Mac, why would you buy the iPad Pro over a cheaper Mac? (Man never thought we’d get to this point that the Mac is actually the cheaper option)

@gamingrex2930

2 жыл бұрын

@@matekovacs2696 stop giving me hope

@copy.floppy

2 жыл бұрын

iPadOS is just ios

@missingno2401

2 жыл бұрын

honestly i wish i got a samsung tab instead of whatever ipad it is i have

The glamshots of the jankass setup had me rolling

I like Jonathan. he's a fanboy but he has a good understanding of the brand ethos and he's capable of critical thinking. Great addition to the enterprise, Linus!

@joshconfer209

3 жыл бұрын

Agree on all fronts. I'm not a Mac person but I appreciate that he takes the time to explain the Mac user approach to tech space.

@MvsG18

3 жыл бұрын

Fanboy really?, just because he is using Apple, like I don't know, it's his fucking work?. Man how dumb are these fights

@menjivarTv

3 жыл бұрын

He is fan* not a fanboy

@CameronKalegi

3 жыл бұрын

@@MvsG18 Well, fanboy doesn't have to carry negativity.. I read Donovan's sentence to mean "mac enthusiast" and I agree on that front. Jonathan's doing great work.

@markomclane475

3 жыл бұрын

@@MvsG18 nobody is fighting here except you

"What kind of monster puts the dock on the side of the screen." Me, a programmer, wanting as much vertical real estate as possible.

@aird2679

3 жыл бұрын

Don't forget the elementary schooler getting a Chromebook for the first time who thinks it makes them cool.

@danimal_666

3 жыл бұрын

What kind of monster doesn’t auto hide the dock!

@chidorirasenganz

3 жыл бұрын

Or use a virtual desktop 😎

@Neoxon619

3 жыл бұрын

I actually haven’t done this, and I’m also a programmer. Maybe I should give it a shot.

@Zodiase

3 жыл бұрын

My dock height to screen height ratio is so low that I don’t bother hiding the dock or moving it to the sides. IMO accessing it at the bottom is faster and more natural when you consider the various features built into the dock. I also have dedicated vertical monitors so that probably also helps.

I think Apple’s whole point is “if we give you an actually usable trackpad with gestures you don’t really need touch”. The trackpad already has tap, swipe, zoom, pinch, etc., and it does so perfectly. If I have the all the gestures I want in a more ergonomic position, there’s absolutely no need for a touchscreen. Personally, I use my MacBook Pro every day with a big screen plugged in and I can reach both monitors perfectly with my trackpad. I don’t even feel the need for a mouse... I only use it every many months when I have to use Blender or something else that is 3D related.

@superchessmachine

2 жыл бұрын

For students its great, I use my 2 in1 laptop for notes and stuff all the time

@Adthin

2 жыл бұрын

And I'd totally agree with apple here, their track pad is magic, that's probably why they called it that but just it having force touch makes it so much better than any other track pad I've used before

@astratheboop

2 жыл бұрын

I mean, Apple did make the trackpad really simple to use, it's really big and responsive

@Broskibrother

2 жыл бұрын

honestly mac's trackpad is like one of the only reasons I still keep my mac. It works amazingly. That said, I really would like a touchscreen. I rarely used it on my windows pc, but it was extremely nice for scrolling down comments on youtube pages or when reading long articles on the web. Basically my only use for it was scrolling, but it was so nice to have.

@Ace-pc2cm

2 жыл бұрын

I'm a touchpad > mouse guy myself, and that's part of the reason why I can acknowledge that touch is often a far more ergonomic and natural and intuitive way of interacting with your device. See 2 year olds easily navigating iPhones and iPads, but not computers until a little bit later.

“Yes you can move the dock to the side of the screen, but what kind of monster does that.” Ouch.

The production quality of Mac Address is actually insane.

@dedoyxp

3 жыл бұрын

much smoother than the main channel, almost like apple-like style production

@mahir7h

3 жыл бұрын

When you get a whole week to plan and produce a video, quality improves.

@Aaron-hg8jo

3 жыл бұрын

I mean... it's normal

@handlebyme

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah it way less jokey than the main channel but also they have a week to plan I like the jokey style so I'm fine with the main

@haylanhead5820

3 жыл бұрын

the editing definitely fits the style for this channel i like the main channel editing for when they get hands on and not just sitting at a desk this is more like 2017 linus where they didnt get as hands on as much for the video where they did most the work off camera

It's really nice to have someone explaining technology from an Mac perspective. On my Windows laptop, I frequently scroll through documents with the screen while using my computer on the couch. Also, I frequently turn my laptop into tablet more to draw some notes/ideas out. It's great to be able to work on one document where I can draw and type.

@Mercilessonion

3 жыл бұрын

Also if your laptop is on a desk and you are standing and want to quickly open a app or file or something you directly reach for it and open it instead of having to reach down to the trackpad, and then moving it around..

@DaemonViews

3 жыл бұрын

Agree, a Mac user here and Windows laptop user for work. When I have my work laptop on my lap. Then the touchscreen is actually more ergonomic as he trackpad makes me sit more cramped. But I have to agree that outside of that I rarely use it. But I rather have something that is convenient when I can use it than not have it because it's not being used all the time. Scrolling is still the main thing I do that way. Or muting unmuting in a call. But exactly because this is annoying in this position on my MBP, I take my iPad. Giving it a reason to exist again.

@Jehty_

3 жыл бұрын

Exactly for your reasoning I think that this video was not good. Because his solution was buy an IPad. That's just such a lazy and stupid solution.

@aminelswefy1808

3 жыл бұрын

plus there's also the slight benefit that some 2 in 1s are cheaper than a laptop and an iPad, and the fact that it's only one device...

@rehmanarshad1848

3 жыл бұрын

@@Jehty_ I think Apple will end up adding touch support to Mac OS once the new M1X chips come out next year. I think a lot of legacy Mac OS software would need to be re-written to properly have multi touch gesture support, and the icons would also need some resizing. But I think there will be a convergence point where Iphone, Ipad and Mac OS would be one interface with just a different screen size, slightly different internal chip TDP's, and varying battery sizes.

"We all know how Windows works" -- Apple dedicated KZread channel

@myrealusername2193

2 жыл бұрын

I regularly use windows on my MacBook lol

@sarukun1228

2 жыл бұрын

@@myrealusername2193 I know. There's no avoiding Windows. I still found it amusing

The thing about touch is it's an option. It's nice to have when you need it, for example when doing CAD on the go in F360, you can properly move around it in 3d, in ways you can't with the touchpad. And just there the couple times you use it, I have an xps and rarely use it, but I get annoyed when using another laptop that doesn't, sometimes.

@rayexception4590

Жыл бұрын

The CAD part is spot on! I pretty much haven't used my trackpad or mouse for CAD for a long time because my laptop is touch screen. I can only hope Macs become touchscreen in the near future, as I do prefer macOS and apple silicon.

Me when Mac Address started: You have my curiosity. Me when I see the title of this video: Now you have my attention.

@TheHammerGuy94

3 жыл бұрын

Welcome to LMG content, apple flavor. Now that i think about it, jonathan kindof looks like linus if linus was an apple user-heavy person.

@jstudios3756

3 жыл бұрын

Same

@goffe2282

3 жыл бұрын

My reaction was "Oh no, he's going to defend that garbage". Turns out I did not have to worry.

@riponrip4574

2 жыл бұрын

@@goffe2282 rude, it’s great, your computer gerbage

I find a touch screen useful for laptops, especially if I'm doing something that requires a lot of scrolling. Depending on how you're seated, having your arm resting on the surface in front of you and using your thumb to scroll (like you would on a phone) is far more comfortable than using the track pad. I don't use the touch screen super often on my laptop, but when I do, I'm glad it's there. It's one of those "better to have it and not need it than need it and not have it" type of things imo.

@GarryFisherProRider

2 жыл бұрын

I'm a pervert. My laptop sits on the top shelf of a STIM R-26 "laptop+projector" tripod and on the lower shelf I have a regular keyboard+mouse set to control it. When I sit down, my laptop stands right before my eyes or even slightly above. This forces me to keep an upright posture but also makes the extra mouse and keyboard necessary. But when I stand up, I can still use my laptop comfortably without any extra adjustments (besides tilting the screen) but this time using the touchpad and the laptop keyboard. The point is that the sitting position with this setup is very comfortable for using a touchscreen+ stylus or finger. That's why I'm gonna buy a laptop with touchscreen this time. Microsoft Surface seems perfect but I'm sure that my friend will change my mind and I will and up with something chinese.

@Xpuc

2 жыл бұрын

I see what you mean, I must admit that in a Windows machine this would be a lot more ‘intuitive’ as it’s super rare to find a good trackpad on a Windows lappy. 99% of the laptops out there lack the Apple fluid operation, ranging from terrible trackpads, to underpowered hardware and poorly implemented software leading to stuttering and lagging. Having a finger move a page on the screen exactly the distance you want is very desirable as all of the shortcomings I listed above make it impossible to predict the distance otherwise. Mac trackpads are just razor sharp, and never miss a beat. With little movement you can be very very precise every-single-time. Even my ‘apple hater’ friends appreciate the Apple trackpads.

@youngjacuzzi3676

2 жыл бұрын

Scrolling on a track pad is way easier than reaching ur hand across the keyboard just get a iPad for that lol.

As someone who has a touchscreen laptop (XPS 15), whenever I borrow a friend's Mac I always get silently irritated by the lack of touch for things like browsing and opening files, especially with how unnecessarily enormous everything is on MacOS

I only use the touch now and then to scroll and tap one or two things too, but that’s often enough that it’s frustrating when it’s gone

@bland9876

3 жыл бұрын

i had to buy a trackpad for my desktop cuz i missed it so much but it is just not the same.

We need more 'Get a Mac" type skits featuring Jonathan and Riley! The synergy there is impeccable :D

@rehmanarshad1848

3 жыл бұрын

it really is lmao!!!

That little round cursor on Ipad is the bane of my life

@Jezee213

3 жыл бұрын

I know, it's the fact that the click point is in the centre of the circle but a arrow cursor it's the tip of the arrow, just messes me up sometimes.

As a field service engineer, i love having a touch screen on my laptop. I use it mainly for touch to zoom for schematics and manuals. Admittedly, a very niche use case.

The presentation of this channel is on a whole other level. I don't even hesitate to click on the video when I receive its notification.

Having a touch screen is something I never used until we went online. The laptop I have is a 2 in 1, and I got the pen. Once school went online, I started using the pen and touch screen for notes and homework I can never go back to not having it. Of course you could get an iPad and I’ve thought of it, but that’s an expensive purchase for what I’d use for KZread and homework/ notes

@MulRooster

3 жыл бұрын

that's my sentiment - I went in on the Surface 3 for Uni, primarily for the pen support, but also to have a solid laptop outside of notetaking. Like I get the idea of have the iPad as a side car, buts suuuuuuuuuuuuper expensive addition on top of an already expensive purchase

@BonJoviBeatlesLedZep

3 жыл бұрын

That's something Jonathan didn't address here. Pricing. If I'm going in on a laptop, I want a feature set that I can comfortably sit back on the couch and use rather than having to pay for another device

@supersnail5000

3 жыл бұрын

I guess the logic is actually now with cheaper iPads supporting Apple Pencil, the proposition of buying an m1 MacBook as well as an iPad is attainable for anyone buying a premium windows 2 in 1. Then the advantages of sidecar, better pen support and touch interface make that option far more appealing than something like an XPS 2 in 1. They can’t compete with cheaper windows 2 in 1s, but they were never trying to.

@bobbyhinner3225

3 жыл бұрын

@@supersnail5000 and that’s a solid point that Apple isn’t a competitor to cheaper laptops. However, my college provides us the laptops (engineering college so they want us to all have the same system for running the software we use).

@OnlyCitrus

3 жыл бұрын

@@supersnail5000 The point of going for a 2-in-1 laptop for most users is to avoid carrying two devices and it is not econimically fessible in some parts of the world where the iPad + pencil combo is priced above an average 2-in-1 laptop

I'm an it tech and use a surface as my work laptop. While that device has many (many many many) shortcomings, the touchscreen is definitely a feature. Not having to switch between keyboards and mice whilst troubleshooting a users pc, or being able to scroll down an Ifixit guide and check my email without having to drop my tools is such a useful feature. Now I don't pretend to be a common use case, but the point I'm trying to make is that there are scenarios where having to switch to an iPad is so much less convenient than just having a touchscreen on a laptop. Windows laptops show that the addition of touchscreen isn't that expensive and the benefits to use cases like mine are enough that I put up with the many failings of my surface pro. Tldr if Mac makes a Mac book pro with a touchscreen I would use it.

@stephanecaron8894

3 жыл бұрын

I serve in the tech-support role for my mom who uses a surface tablet... It is nice to be able to use the touch screen so I'm not crowding over the keyboard blocking my mom's view of the screen as I explain / demonstrate something to her.

@ilik3pie

3 жыл бұрын

As an network administrator, I frequently find myself flipping my screen when I have to get up and walk to an IDF or the like, say to check out a physical/ logical map or to quickly check a guide. If I need to program some equipment on the fly, It makes it easier than carrying around my iPad all the time (which incidentally I do use for *some* of the same cases, though with slightly deprecated ability). Just because I do not use the touch screen 24/7, does not mean it isn't useful when it is actually needed. That said, I neither use, nor would use a macbook in any capacity for my work anyways, but the precedent remains the same. Although, I am certain I am not a wide majority use case.

@Beau_Guerrier

3 жыл бұрын

if your surface ever break, have a look at lenovo or asus 2 in 1

I appreciate how well done the captions are. It helps out hearing impaired folks like me understand these videos to the fullest.

It's also that Windows has really good UI for touch. Fullscreening a window with a swipe works great (or half screening it). In the mousy desktop mode.

@RC-1290

3 жыл бұрын

Pro tip: don't hold you arm in mid air, especially not sideways for comedic effect, just reach up from time to time. It doesn't have to replace a mouse. It's just an addition for some occasional convenience.

I laughed so hard at that B-Roll and everything pertaining to the initial "shock" of the product. Well played Jonathan!!

I'd like to think that muscle memory and years of habit are probably the major reasons he didn't actively use the touch screen more. Great vid nonetheless

@Boxtermaiti

3 жыл бұрын

agreed. After using a two in one laptop for years I find it incredibly useful to have a touchscreen.

@lapin-rouge

3 жыл бұрын

Beat me to it. It took me a while to relearn productivity with a 2-in-1, but now that I have, I absolutely will not look at a laptop that isn’t a convertible. It’s become more efficient for me to use my personal laptop at home instead of my more powerful work laptop simply because I prefer my new habits over my old habits. If I could have a touchscreen MacBook with dual-boot into Windows on an upgraded version of the M1, I would sell my current setup in a heartbeat! But, to each their own.

@kbhasi

3 жыл бұрын

I agree. I use the touch input on my laptop quite frequently, especially in cramped spaces or when I'm in bed.

@gajbooks

3 жыл бұрын

@@lapin-rouge I would buy an iPad immediately if Apple announced it could run macOS, given that the M1 specs are essentially the same now. The only reason Windows users like touch screens is because they want to use Windows with touch, not some watered down and locked OS like Android or iPadOS. The touch experience on either platform is infinitely better than Windows.

@freakofnature9580

3 жыл бұрын

I wish he had a 2-in-1 user try it out

I find that a touchscreen has become second nature to me when I don't have a proper mouse, to the point that I've actually attempted to touch the screen on my brother's Macbook Pro when we were browsing what to watch on Netflix and when we were looking at Google Maps.

Love the different storytelling format on this channel, and a great host too, enthusiastic and passionate about the brand but practical and understanding.

As someone who fanatically wipes his iPad multiple times a day, I died inside a little to see all that tape on the screen.

@MrAprrc31

3 жыл бұрын

the screen will be cleaner when the tape is taken off than it was before it was on. I often would clean my macbook or ipad screen with a mild tape in a similar way

@impendio

3 жыл бұрын

it killed me too

@Neoxon619

3 жыл бұрын

I feel your pain

@Yoyle-gp2xq

3 жыл бұрын

Its LMG, jank is the name of the game

@edwardallenthree

3 жыл бұрын

It's the green tape. It will be fine. Far better for the screen than fingers.

Those were very good points. The reason i want touchscreen I my laptop is because i don't want a second device like a tablet. But i agree. The majority of the reason i use the touchscreen are for those scrolling or my hands are up there moment. But not having them when you need it, it really takes away a lot from it.

@neilbalch

3 жыл бұрын

^^ This! Imagine a student use case where money is super tight and you can only get one device. (like me rn, lol)

@Thezftw

3 жыл бұрын

My laptop has touch, but it's also a thicc boy and weighs like 5 kilos, so not particularly useful lmao.

@crazzp

3 жыл бұрын

@@Thezftw My ultralight laptop has a touchscreen. It's not the touchscreen that is adding to the weight

@cringefairy2687

3 жыл бұрын

Touch screens definitely have their uses on regular laptops IMO. For example, clicking through dialog windows is a lot quicker with your fingers than through a cursor. It definitely is niche though - a convertible is a much better device for combining laptops and tablets, and despite W10 being hot garbage, they're still pretty damn nice.

These videos are so beautifully shot and directed. I like the cinematography a lot more than the usual LTT style

I just got my first 2 in 1, and the touch screen is an essential part of navigating the screen. I love it. It feels so surreal how well it works. I think Mac users do not really hate the touch screen, they actually hate themselves for using a Mac.

0:43 One of the reasons why most Mac users don't really care much about touchscreens is because the trackpads on MacBooks are fantastic (the best in the market). Something you can't really say about most of windows laptops hence why they can't understand our perspective. Don't get me wrong, the addition of touchscreen would be cool but definitely not necessary.

@blocksource4192

2 жыл бұрын

I agree, on other laptops I have, the trackpad sometimes lags or freezes or gets stuck in something like a fullscreen app, can't relate for Mac though, amazing experience.

@Breeze926

2 жыл бұрын

I upgraded from my 2011 MacBook Air to a 2020 Lenovo Laptop and I miss the MacBook's trackpad every day.

I have a touchscreen on my windows laptop. The only time I ever user it is when I touch it by accident trying to show someone something on my screen.

@MvsG18

3 жыл бұрын

Touchscreen is so bad in windows, the only time that I've seen it work, it was when my math teacher used it to write in math class.

@crazzp

3 жыл бұрын

@@MvsG18 Well that, that is one use case for it isnt it. There when you need it.

@itskiblu

3 жыл бұрын

I have a touchscreen on my laptop and i use it all of the time

@MvsG18

3 жыл бұрын

@@crazzp I mean I like more usability and more stuff, I'm just saying touchscreens could be way superior than they're now in windows desktop, I mean, it's a multi billion dollar company, it's that hard to add something and implement it well, it's not that hard.

@atrombonist

3 жыл бұрын

I have a convertible so I sometimes just go full tablet mode when not doing type heavy stuff. And when I'm taking notes in my lectures in Onenote.

I feel like the main argument is so that you can have one Apple device that can do the work of a tablet and laptop, for someone who doesn't even want to spend the Apple tax of just one product.

@Jezee213

3 жыл бұрын

very true.

@wynandt2

3 жыл бұрын

@@ianklopper6992 In which case you could (hopefully) choose the non-touch option for the MacBook and not pay that premium for a touch display. The point isn't to force everyone to use touch as their primary input. We just want the option of touch so each user can decide for themselves which they prefer.

@lobotomise863

3 жыл бұрын

​@@ianklopper6992 but you are happy to buy 2 devices that cost way more than one device... and you also need to carry those 2 device around in case you need it...

@TheGangster-uc4rk

2 жыл бұрын

@@ianklopper6992 Apple has enough R&D to stop cancer if they wanted to

@xintophotography9848

2 жыл бұрын

A touchscreen that you hold should be no more than 12 inches diagonal, and preferably less. That's kind of puny for a laptop. I do have one of the larger iPad Pros, but frankly my next iPad Pro will be the smaller one. There is some small overlap range, with smaller laptops (those less geared towards productivity) being plausible in the 11" to 12" range. But, I really don't care whether a laptop that small ran a full OS. I suppose it might be useful if I could hook it up to a monitor and have it convert to a full OS, but expecting Apple to cater to that by supplying a completely different mode of operation when connected vs disconnected from the monitor is a lot to ask. I do expect that they will continue down the continuity/universal-control route to make multiple Apple devices more-and-more seamless.

I am actually impressed by the production quality of this channel again and its prime techquickie approach of quick but jam packed with simple knowledge approach. Not a mac guy but this channel has my attention.

Great point(er) about the iPad OS cursor being blunt; always wondered why they just didn't make it a normal pointer

@cesarbattistini

3 жыл бұрын

You can change it to a regular cursor on iPad, I think it’s nice and would be great on the Mac as an option.

@RongDirection

3 жыл бұрын

@@cesarbattistini using a blunt cursor on current macOS would be painful. Every button is too small.

You haven't heard all of the arguments: touch closing the browser while my wife watches Netflix is a great pastime.

"What kind of monster does that?" I put my dock/taskbar on the left on macOS/Windows... I'm the monster now.

I genuinely appreciate Mac videos from a Mac perspective. I'm not a fanboy of either platform. I currently use, and will like continue to use, a windows machine for gaming, and a Mac for productivity and general use. However, it was nice to hear somebody really give some compelling reasons why touch is not coming to a Mac or MacBook. It really helps balance out the perspectives on this topic.

Having a touchscreen on a laptop is most useful when you have it on your lap. If you are in bed or on the couch using a laptop, you can type in a comfortable position then slide your fingers behind the screen to use your thumb to scroll just like a phone. It makes editing documents way more comfortable because scrolling up and down with your thumb is a far easier position for your hands than reaching down below the keyboard and scrolling with the tips of two fingers.

@beastyzombieslayer

3 жыл бұрын

@@barnett25 I understand that apple wants to keep it's ecosystem extremely fragmented so if you want multiple experiences you have to buy multiple $1000 dollar devices. However as an average consumer who can't afford to buy a new phone, laptop, tablet, and possibly a desktop, buying a product which offers the most flexibility is overall the smartest move. So, for the time being I'll be sticking to my 2 in 1s

@Mercilessonion

3 жыл бұрын

@@barnett25 when you switch to an iPad from a macbook you can pickup from where you left it... It's a apple thing... One of the very few things I wish windows will have in the future that Apple has

@Mkrabs

3 жыл бұрын

What if they merge iPadOS and MacOS and mix the iPad with the Mac to create one single, simple slick device with both "modes" like a folding or removing keyboard style device ?

@bumcrack82

3 жыл бұрын

I have a PC for work/play and for bed I have an iPad (like 5 years old iPad) and it all works perfectly. I am of the same mind that for my work/play I would never use a touch screen but for a hand held device like my phone/iPad its perfect.

@Jehty_

3 жыл бұрын

@@Mercilessonion Windows 10 has that feature as well. It's called "Timeline"

last time i was this early, linus hadn't dropped a gpu

@raawesome3851

3 жыл бұрын

Same, Rem.

@person9513

3 жыл бұрын

@@raawesome3851 rem best girl

Here’s a crazy thought: combine iPadOS and MacOS together to form a new OS that would support iPads and Macs…with those two products becoming more and more alike, sometimes I think it’s not too far fetched.

@pyromethious

Жыл бұрын

[Yes, I know these are old comments] Oh god no, that's what part of the Mac community is already fearing as of the release of Ventura. Some of the new changes (especially the Settings app) have actually slowed down the experience on the Mac because of how iOSified it became. If anything, it needs to be more MacOS if on a Mac, but keep the touch precision of the iPad (when using the Pencil).

@liamsz

6 ай бұрын

@@pyromethious The settings app being bad and slow has nothing to do with it being iOS like, the app just has terrible UX, and just so happens to look simillar to an iOS app

His presentation style is on point, it's so entertaining to watch. Awesome channel!

I honestly love the dock on the side, I find it easier to scan and allows for more vertical screen real estate

The intro is so great lol. Also I thought that the touch screen would be better suited for an iMac with the form factor of that weird surface studio so that you can touch directly on it

This production quality is AMAZING

This guy got me interested in Apple, again!

I have a touchscreen window laptop and I never touch the screen. Also, having a touchscreen on my desktop would just be barbaric.

@impendio

3 жыл бұрын

i would only like a touch screen on a desktop for like, extreme cad, 3d rendering, illustrations, graphics, digital art and/or design, like the surface studio with it’s huge screen and ridiculously good hinge, but even then you have the professional grade of wacom stuff and i as an amateur digital artist, i’m pretty satisfied with my ipad pro and pencil…

@TalesOfWar

3 жыл бұрын

@@impendio I know a few illustrators who sold their Cintiq's when they got their iPad Pro's and Pencil's. They're somehow better latency and accuracy while wireless than the physically connected with DisplayPort and USB Cintiq's were lol.

My sentiment is yes, the MacBook is a touchpad/mouse first device, but what could it hurt to have a touch screen as a second option, even if just for those specific times it would be convenient?

@dwighthouse

3 жыл бұрын

You mean aside from the extra cost, additional power requirements, finger smudges, and added complexity?

@victor-oh

3 жыл бұрын

It doesn't seem that the occasional benefits outweigh the costs

@whette_fahrtz

3 жыл бұрын

It hurts cost, weight, power, and user frustration. Apple has first class customer satisfaction, adding an optional touchscreen that few would use would risk that.

@GoodGamer3000

3 жыл бұрын

@@dwighthouse, MacBooks are already premium devices, extra power usage is very minimal, they would have a coating to combat smudges, and it's not the biggest hassle to wipe the screen every once in a while, and added complexity is Apple's problem. You can't repair the screen yourself anyway.

@dwighthouse

3 жыл бұрын

@@GoodGamer3000 Not saying each one couldn't be addressed in some way. You asked what it could hurt. I told you.

I love how this video is so well made and how this new guy speaks.

Love the production on these, feels like an episode of top gear or something. Keep em coming

gotta love the phenomenal product shots

Touchscreens are so useful for both my drawing and CAD work, I really prefer swiping around my model instead of fighting with my mouse. In fact, on the occasions I've used a MacBook, I've tried to touch the screen so many times. Heck, I've even tried to use use a desktop monitor as a touchscreen without even thinking about it xD

I'm loving this channel. Please keep having Riley on for the goofs!

Excellent Point of View and Channel !!!

A touchscreen computer makes Riley a productive boy.

5:30 I feel personally attacked

@nikzuLP

3 жыл бұрын

You Should. 😉

This is exactly the content I'd expect from an LMG Mac channel!

I also never thought I'd need a touch screen, but then about two and a half years ago I got a laptop with a touchscreen. I only realised how much I used it when I switched to a non touch laptop earlier this year, and was reaching to the screen to hit the menu or scroll a web page a lot, but it didn't work.

I just want to say that I really appreciate this channel. It’s a great addition to the LMG family.

The engineering in this, elegant!

The production quality on this channel is superb. GJ everyone

I like this guy!! Keep the videos coming bro

Would you rather: have a feature that you don't use often but when you do is useful, or, don't have that feature and be stuck with just one input? I mean I get the point, but a feature is a feature and if you decide not to use it that's up to you.

Actually the tablet mode in Windows 10 could be very useful once Microsoft decides what wants to be when it grows adult. I use it in my 2in1, when it's in notebook mode I just use it like a regular windows pc with the addition of the touchscreen, but when I need it to be more tablet I just rotate the screen and a popup asks me if I want to switch to tablet mode, which makes everything a lot more touch friendly like a tablet (this applies automatically to the whole windows interface, office, edge and some other programs)

I have a third party add on on my 27” iMac which makes it touch screen and it works well. - the application is with Hauptwerk- a virtual pipe organ program and the large 27” screen becomes the stop tab and draw knobs for the organ sample being used.

I love touch options on my Laptop and will only purchase 2 in 1s for myself. Using the touch screen is not about using it all the time just when it makes sense. Reading a book or comic, using an app for a game EG: DND beyond. Being able to fold the laptop back and have the base and keyboard out of the way so I can use the space in front. 60-80% of the time is it not useful but I love having it for the situations it is and it is usually only $100 option.

That ending though 😂

I think the logical next step for apple would be to merge the ipad pro and mac book air product lines into a detachable screen hybrid à la Surface Book that switches between MacOS and iPadOS when you attach or detach the display from the keyboard. It would be the best of all worlds and with the iPads improved productivity applications over the years and the recent implementation of the M1 in both products it seems only a bit of hardware design would be needed

@csa813

3 жыл бұрын

The iPad pro M1 should already be capable of doing this with just a software update to get full MacOS installed in the background and the switching functionality added for when it's docked.

One nice thing about touchscreens on laptops that is hard to test by yourself is that touchscreens are useful for multiple users. If a relative wants to show me something on their laptop whether it is a news story or a product on Amazon, I can easily view it and interact through the touchscreen. I don't have to make them move so I can fully sit down and use the trackpad or mouse, all I have to do is stand next to them and scroll or click the few things I need to. That is one great use of a touchscreen, letting other people use the device at the same time.

This intro is gold!

I really like being able to use my surface for class, so instead of carrying around a laptop and 2 notebooks, I just have it and I can pull the keyboard and use the pen to draw or take notes.

0:06 True. I can’t stand my roommate touching my laptop screen constantly and I have to clean his fingerprint every time.

@alanmay7929

3 жыл бұрын

Dont you have to clean your ipad or iphone screen!? Wtf!

@stevenlee5164

3 жыл бұрын

@@alanmay7929 they have oleophilic coating for touch screens so they are more resistant, and yes I DO clean them everyday.

@alanmay7929

3 жыл бұрын

@@stevenlee5164 nope it doesn't have oleophilic coating

@stevenlee5164

3 жыл бұрын

@@alanmay7929 i thought smartphones always have that stuff

Depends on the use case. In the work I do, lighting for events, touchscreens are king Check out lighting software like onyx or grandMA2 People use them (along side physical controls like buttons, rotary encoders and faders) to trigger colour cues, movement fx, switch views, trigger macros and other fanciful things in the heat of the moment at a gig. There’s barely any Mac based options for this kind of software and the lack of touch screens would be a contributing factor.

This channel has such great production quality

I use the touchscreen on my windows laptop constantly, but never when I’m using it as a laptop, only when the screen is folded back in the “tablet mode”(I keep the software tablet mode off btw, idk who it’s for, but I hate it)

@ClarksonNo1

3 жыл бұрын

And this is the answer. Mac doesn't have a touch screen because they want you to buy an iPad as well as a mac.

@riponrip4574

2 жыл бұрын

Nah, touchscreen is junk for me PS, apple is better

Touch screen is awesome, just look at the surface.

@AsadoMao

3 жыл бұрын

The surface isn’t that good tbh

@Madblaster6

3 жыл бұрын

4:22

@Emerson-wj9kr

3 жыл бұрын

@@AsadoMao lol

@kenoben007

3 жыл бұрын

XD

@PythonPlusPlus

3 жыл бұрын

The surface is a 2 in 1 though, which puts it in the same class as an iPad. No one is complaining that touchscreens are bad. They are just pointless in a laptop form factor. It’s way easier to use the trackpad than to touch the screen.

The cool music with the DIY job hahahaha hilarious. Good vid cheers

Love this channel, great host!

i felt too personally attacked about the dock on the side, it's awesome

@calebsoaring

3 жыл бұрын

#sideandhide 4 life

@lger2010

3 жыл бұрын

@@calebsoaring had to start using a Mac at work. Left side and hide is the only way it's useable.

I just wanted to use this opportunity to wish Yvonne and Linus a Happy 10 year anniversary! I hope you guys have a great day!

I was thinking about this the other day. I only use Apple for two things currently: Sound/music work in Logic Pro on a 2013 Macbook Pro and a lightweight vision mixing app for event streaming on an old iPad. Both of which are ageing and proving difficult to use at times but I really don't want to have to buy two devices to replace them. What I would ideally like is an iPad that, when connected to an external display, could run MacOS.

Great Video! On the point!

Hard disagree. Now that they are making the hardware common with m1, a touchscreen macbook air with a 360 hinge and selectable ipados mode would be an instant buy from me. I don’t use the touchscreen on my Lenovo yoga at a desk, but I use it in almost every other situation which is the majority of my time.

@Stargate2077

3 жыл бұрын

That would be an awkward and confusing experience. Apple would never implement that.

I need a touch screen to work in CAD.

I was thinking about them taking a Mac apart 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 but that was fast and well done, congrats

I really enjoy my 2 in 1 laptop. I mostly use touch when I fold it to present things to people, or to take notes with the Wacom enabled screen.

When they said modern problems required modern solutions, this isn't exactly what I had in mind.

Now that I can play IOS games on my M1, I NEED a touch screen. Damn, just give me a two in one.

5:47 the trackpad does those really well already

Wow ! Amazing video man . ❤️❤️

that transition at 1:27 is really cool, great job! :)

My gosh that's janky. I love it.

That intro had me. Subscribed

what I like about a touch screen is it is essentially a bigger trackpad, meaning you can be more precise and/or do more at a time, as in zooming in or out. it is rarely used, but a nice addition.