Why Those Old Jordans You Loved Wouldn't Sell Today | The Complex Sneakers Show

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The sneakers that you loved decades ago may not be all that exciting today-no matter how much you try to convince yourself otherwise. Here, Complex Sneakers Podcast co-hosts Joe La Puma, Brendan Dunne, and Matt Welty talk about wanting old Air Jordans to come back only to realize that a lot of them really don’t hold up. The retro market is different, and more saturated now, which affects how we consume retro staples like Jordans and Air Maxes. The co-hosts also discuss the black and royal Air Jordan 1 “Reimagined,” which arrived to not that much fanfare last weekend and may be an indicator of how people feel about too many tweaks on original Jordan styles. Also: the TMNT x Adidas Superstar, Nigo x Nike Air Force 3s, and a look ahead at ComplexCon.
Chapters:
0:00 - 2:13: Intros
2:14 - 6:45: Complexcon 2024
8:20 - 12:51: Performance Sneakers
12:52 - 14:55: Nike Air Max 90 Gore-Tex “Infrared”
14:56 - 18:30: Nike SF Air Force 1
18:31 - 22:27: Top Air Max 90s
22:28 - 23:38: TMNT x Adidas Superstar
23:39 - 24:21: Nigo x Nike Air Force 3s
24:22 - 28:56: Adidas x Prada by Jerry Lorenzo
28:57 - 35:37: Sneaker Cam
35:28 - 57:56: Retro Sneakers
57:57 - 1:09:02: JLP’s 2002 Sneaker Rotation
1:09:03 - 1:09:30: Outro
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  • @Complex
    @Complex7 ай бұрын

    If you could bring back one old Air Jordan release, what would it be?

  • @diggitydongjoon

    @diggitydongjoon

    7 ай бұрын

    Thank goodness the military’s are finally coming out… PEAPOD 8S

  • @solesoldier2577

    @solesoldier2577

    7 ай бұрын

    Laser 4

  • @HeftyLefty1873

    @HeftyLefty1873

    7 ай бұрын

    I've always loved the look of cherry wood 16s

  • @Ghost_xx_10

    @Ghost_xx_10

    7 ай бұрын

    The Jordan 5 Laser from 07🙌🏾

  • @Bigmute501

    @Bigmute501

    7 ай бұрын

    The Jordan’s 17th with the suitcase

  • @mjo23dan
    @mjo23dan7 ай бұрын

    A lot of the early retros you guys rattled off definitely pull at the heartstrings of those that used to collect in the early to mid 2000s. I can remember days and even late nights on the Sole Collector forums discussing and moderating every single thread of these beloved colorways. The game was so pure then and people actually wanting to discuss these shoes from top to bottom. It really brings back some good memories which is why I have also kept a lot of those shoes from back then today.

  • @d.felixphoto2260

    @d.felixphoto2260

    7 ай бұрын

    Man it was a time to be alive! No kids, no wife, no responsibilities but classes and a job. Lol. All those 2000's releases bring back memories. Especially those Infrared 6's, white cement 4's, Olive 9's man the list goes on and on

  • @gg_2315

    @gg_2315

    7 ай бұрын

    Definitely brought back a lot Of memories of those younger days. Spending hours looking at Eastbay, the back pages of Slam magazine & the forums.

  • @vincenttyler4667

    @vincenttyler4667

    7 ай бұрын

    You are a legend. Can't wait for your gratitude 11 video and hopefully comparison to the DMP 11

  • @richardmbradley4816
    @richardmbradley48167 ай бұрын

    The first reimagined sneaker is the patent leather bred Jordan 1

  • @allstylehype879

    @allstylehype879

    5 ай бұрын

    So glad this comment was here.

  • @michaelwatterson7339
    @michaelwatterson73397 ай бұрын

    Thanks JLP for sharing your 2002 story. That is what collecting is all about.

  • @inalaboyy
    @inalaboyy7 ай бұрын

    Anyone hating on Welty isn’t an OG listener of the podcast, EVERY single member of the team brings their on opinions/strengths to the table to make it a diversified & interesting show to watch.

  • @dr.richblackman

    @dr.richblackman

    7 ай бұрын

    1000% percent

  • @cmn225

    @cmn225

    7 ай бұрын

    talk that talk

  • @dr.richblackman
    @dr.richblackman7 ай бұрын

    The end of FSR makes me love and appreciate this show so much more.

  • @marcusaranda8251
    @marcusaranda82517 ай бұрын

    Thank you Dunne! We need the og grape and the real fire red (black tongue) 5’s.

  • @Paperboy392
    @Paperboy3927 ай бұрын

    I would love to see the Mist 4s or Do the Right Thing 3s re release. Jordan Brand just has a hard time getting the color and materials right a lot of times.

  • @s.marques3534
    @s.marques35347 ай бұрын

    I love this show !!!! This is my relax time and I always love the points all three of you bring up!!!!!!keep up the great works guys ! You are greatly appreciated 😊

  • @tomizzo5314
    @tomizzo53147 ай бұрын

    Every time Welty speaks Dunn interrupts its actually unreal

  • @vincenttyler4667
    @vincenttyler46677 ай бұрын

    This is the beauty of sneakers you can look at them and they can be a time machine or you can wear them and just enjoy them. I love the fact that I have relationships and conversations based off sneakers and there's just nothing like it.

  • @Thumbs87
    @Thumbs877 ай бұрын

    I been wanting them flint 9s from the thumbnail for 20+ years, they need to re retro those

  • @TechVdot8

    @TechVdot8

    7 ай бұрын

    I agree, they were my first real sneaker and if the retro them then I’m copping instantly ✅

  • @itsELL24

    @itsELL24

    3 ай бұрын

    I had a pair but sadly the sole crumbled on me. Easy cop if they re release

  • @stonecoldsteez
    @stonecoldsteez7 ай бұрын

    This could have been an 8 hour episode and it would have been glorious

  • @anth2290
    @anth22907 ай бұрын

    Jlp: I’m on demon time Welty: what does that even mean Jlp: it’s provocative it gets the people going 😂

  • @harri8162
    @harri81627 ай бұрын

    01-02 are stand out years because Jordan was back in the league. So unlike 99-00 where retros seemed like the end of a era(15’s on sale for like 20 bucks) you got the 16 which got love and then all these retro’s on top of that. It went from retros being pretty cool, to becoming must haves.

  • @superben790
    @superben7907 ай бұрын

    I love both ROYAL AIR JORDAN 1 and the FLYKNIT ROYAL AIR JORDAN 1, my 2 favorite versions!!!!

  • @Sneakahead555
    @Sneakahead5557 ай бұрын

    Kick game properrrrr ! Straight into it ! Really enjoy when it’s just the three of y’all ! Some how ended up with two pairs of the SF AF1. Enjoyed it for the time being. Would love a Suitcase 17 again! 2000 Black infrared greatest sneaker of all time ! Really loved the nostalgia of this one ! Great conversations, amazing job, guys !

  • @jonmagiq2462
    @jonmagiq24627 ай бұрын

    That Royal Jordan 1 should have been an SB collab, with the tech featured on the LA to Chicago

  • @fernriosphoto
    @fernriosphoto7 ай бұрын

    Great episode! Love the nostalgia, like Dunne said simpler times.

  • @bern717

    @bern717

    7 ай бұрын

    The best times

  • @aikeaaguinea
    @aikeaaguinea7 ай бұрын

    Dunne with the MQ hoodie !!

  • @MauricioSandoval-xc9ih
    @MauricioSandoval-xc9ih7 ай бұрын

    I think the first look pictures hurt the Reimagined Royals.. the shade of blue was so light, but in hand the shade of Royal Blue is true to the OG. I copped a pair and I’m happy I did.

  • @readytodie116

    @readytodie116

    7 ай бұрын

    100% agree. I didn't like them until I saw them in person.

  • @jimmyschlenk9502
    @jimmyschlenk95027 ай бұрын

    2000 hands down the best year for Jordan retros! The 5s 6s and of course the 11s ! The price and quality those were the days!

  • @TurtlEfrmdaManor

    @TurtlEfrmdaManor

    7 ай бұрын

    My freshman year! I definitely had infrared 6’s, space jam & cool grey 11’s that school year

  • @matthewjchung
    @matthewjchung7 ай бұрын

    44:50 JLP and Dunne back to back with the two most reasonable takes on the Royal Reimagined I’ve seen so far.

  • @slash8862
    @slash88627 ай бұрын

    Great episode for the old heads!! Loved it.

  • @Gilblunto
    @Gilblunto7 ай бұрын

    Dunne in the MQ sweater. One of the best writers

  • @andrewanderson564

    @andrewanderson564

    7 ай бұрын

    For real! WHAT YOU WRITE DUNNE?!

  • @Tenchi-fi5gb
    @Tenchi-fi5gb7 ай бұрын

    Shaq is not from Jersey City lol, he’s from Newark

  • @micahthurman9523
    @micahthurman95237 ай бұрын

    I need Nike to re-retro Jordan’s 15 through 23 again add that to their reimagined line.

  • @krob41
    @krob417 ай бұрын

    I was with you on that nas lyric big dog.. classic!

  • @MoeFokah
    @MoeFokah7 ай бұрын

    Swear I like when they just together talking. Just them. 🔥

  • @CreasedHeat
    @CreasedHeat7 ай бұрын

    Loving the respect you guys are putting on the TN lately.

  • @sc239
    @sc2397 ай бұрын

    Probably an unpopular opinion, but i would love to see more Low retros.. not just 1s, 2s and 11s.. I loved my 5, 9 12 lows back in the day...

  • @shady2493
    @shady24937 ай бұрын

    Air max 90 needs better colorways, The Bacon is the Best Colorway of that shoe ever made. And it’s way more comfortable than the Air max 1

  • @ShubiDoobyDoo1
    @ShubiDoobyDoo17 ай бұрын

    Love your content fam! Keep it up! Can't wait to see what else you make in 2023! 👟🔥🎥

  • @iuhoosiers14
    @iuhoosiers147 ай бұрын

    Forrest green 14s..bring them back

  • @KingPowas
    @KingPowas6 ай бұрын

    Great banter gentleman, nice analogies

  • @Dolojit223
    @Dolojit2237 ай бұрын

    Black lazer 4s ,mars 4s ,harber blue 3s , pea pod 8s , tour 4s and maize 7s are some shoes I want but feel like wouldnt drop anytime soon

  • @moeboom43
    @moeboom437 ай бұрын

    Loved hearing JLP recount 2002!

  • @ZombieStrantz
    @ZombieStrantz7 ай бұрын

    I love Welty, but his take on the TMNT shelltoes is so narrow sighted. These "pop culture" shoes are way more tastefully done compared to any simpsons collab. They reference the original comic books and even come in packaging resembling the original toys. For people who grew up on that franchise and toys, it is super nostalgic and looks well executed. It's akin to the Ronnie Fieg X-Men asics.

  • @shady3legend
    @shady3legend7 ай бұрын

    Someone should make a video of the single best year for Jordan retro releases

  • @notitleproductions
    @notitleproductions7 ай бұрын

    “I’m like the Shyne to your Diddy” is one of Welty’s greatest lines 😂 👏

  • @scorchedearth7491
    @scorchedearth74917 ай бұрын

    10000% yes on the Grape 5 OG with Nike Air. Please baby Jesus.

  • @FunkieFelix
    @FunkieFelix7 ай бұрын

    Welty was speaking for all the old heads lol 💎🤞

  • @pfvision
    @pfvision7 ай бұрын

    The reimagined line are the bred patents, the lost & founds, the white cements and the suede royals

  • @pfvision

    @pfvision

    7 ай бұрын

    and the bred 1 patents are from 2021.

  • @pfvision

    @pfvision

    7 ай бұрын

    For it to be a "reimagined" its not just to be pre - yellowed. But its a reinterpretation of and OG colorway, like the leather black cement 4s that are coming next year.

  • @solesoldier2577
    @solesoldier25777 ай бұрын

    Biggest Welty JLP Dunne shoe ep would be 🔥 & Thanks for giving us Full Size Run

  • @faceseverywearfew.2506
    @faceseverywearfew.25067 ай бұрын

    The reimagined Jordan 1 royal - just reminds me of the “Jpack” Nike sb dunk high

  • @inrockyvision
    @inrockyvision7 ай бұрын

    Welty thus far is the only person I have heard say they weren't into the new TMNT flick - how very Welty of him.

  • @vincenttyler4667
    @vincenttyler46677 ай бұрын

    The patent bred Aj1 is the first reimagined and yes lost and found are reimagined.

  • @rockN
    @rockN7 ай бұрын

    love the am90 talk. the Sertigs!

  • @darnell3225
    @darnell32257 ай бұрын

    This was a great episode

  • @iJohnnyJB
    @iJohnnyJB7 ай бұрын

    My first pair of Jordan’s (OG black toe 14s) were purchased using layaway 😂

  • @BookerT69

    @BookerT69

    7 ай бұрын

    I did the same thing at a Hibbets for the chrome 8 in 2003

  • @YoungAmzn
    @YoungAmzn7 ай бұрын

    bring action bronson! and welty great that you mention...those new balance baklava 1906 chito had on i been chasing those down since I first seen them months ago 🔥

  • @mart3876

    @mart3876

    7 ай бұрын

    You think Action is gonna go back on after JLP left him off the Jimmy Fallon list. He begged it with Drake instead, disappointed New Yorker.

  • @992porter
    @992porter4 ай бұрын

    This why I love sneakers. It’s about the person. I love the retro I grew up on but I understand the masses might now. It’s subjective

  • @Zo-Killa
    @Zo-Killa7 ай бұрын

    I need them Air Max 120s to drop again. They were a sleeper... wit the 3m spiderweb caging on the side

  • @HereAndTher3
    @HereAndTher37 ай бұрын

    The thumbnail excited. (s and 16s are some of my favorite models

  • @jeffdye7176
    @jeffdye71767 ай бұрын

    The Patton leather AJ1 breads black and red where part of the reimagined series so it was relevant before the lost and found AJ1 Chicago's at least that's what I've heard from alot of sneaker youtubers

  • @dre_withwithout
    @dre_withwithout7 ай бұрын

    “Reimagined” and “Retro” are basically synonyms in regard to sneakers. When you think about all the changes and such that have happened to 3s prior to the “reimagined” ones. Or when you look at like for instance Jordan Playoff 8s.. not this newest release but prior or the Aquas.. It’s just lingo to market to whoever is willing to buy it.

  • @Mister46five
    @Mister46five6 ай бұрын

    MQ hoodie is FIRE!!

  • @unboxedTNT
    @unboxedTNT7 ай бұрын

    candle to the flame Matt

  • @ryancolangelo9585
    @ryancolangelo95857 ай бұрын

    “We’ll put this photo in” thanks Joe 😃

  • @SSGVB
    @SSGVB7 ай бұрын

    COMPLEXCON 2023 lesss guuuuu

  • @borisalessandriperez5227
    @borisalessandriperez52277 ай бұрын

    That’s so odd!! Flint 9s & Bred 16s are two of the top 3 shoes I want retroed. Black Tongue 5s with Nike Air branding tops my list at the No. 1 spot

  • @sherronthejedi
    @sherronthejedi7 ай бұрын

    First Re-Imagined shoe was the patent bred 1

  • @noahmccarter4154
    @noahmccarter41547 ай бұрын

    Jordan 1 L&F were the first of the reimagined. It's a Chicago remake which was literally in the description on SNKRS...

  • @piratemonkey182

    @piratemonkey182

    7 ай бұрын

    First was Patent Bred (2021), then it was L&F (2022)

  • @lovdlyon
    @lovdlyon7 ай бұрын

    What Welty said at the end... Me: searching ebay for eS Koston K2 from 1999 when I was in high school

  • @romeyKICKS
    @romeyKICKS7 ай бұрын

    Patent Bred, Satin Breds & Lost & Found Chicagos Are All Reimagined Jordans To Me As Well Just Like The Alternate Breds Coming Out

  • @Dolojit223
    @Dolojit2237 ай бұрын

    Sport blue 6s need a retro wit nike air and white infared 6s and the black tounge fire red 5s

  • @codyddd3634
    @codyddd36347 ай бұрын

    that sneaker nostalgia got me buying shoes ive always wanted then never wearing them

  • @LowheatFancyPants
    @LowheatFancyPants7 ай бұрын

    Need those Military Blue AJ4's and the Black Toe AJ1's to retro again

  • @fabioacosta8067
    @fabioacosta80677 ай бұрын

    I'm pretty sure that early marketing for the L&F called it a Chicago Reimagined, then closer to the release all the marketing switched to lost and found

  • @vincenttyler4667
    @vincenttyler46677 ай бұрын

    White infared 6's with nike air on the back and sport blue 6's. Air jordan 5's black tongue 23 on the side.

  • @tstorm4489
    @tstorm44897 ай бұрын

    I can’t explain it but changing the materials on the Royal 1s does feel more offensive than the Bred 4s. No ones gonna keep that same energy.

  • @user-os3fz1yt6f
    @user-os3fz1yt6f7 ай бұрын

    I don’t think people ever mention the whole “remastered” like years back and whatever happened with it… I feel like it was just a grab at hiking up the price for a little bit better materials and then it went away but the price just kept going up

  • @itsthed5951
    @itsthed59517 ай бұрын

    I STILL DONT GET WHY FSR IS ON ITS LAST SEASON!!!

  • @otterdonnelly9959
    @otterdonnelly99597 ай бұрын

    Patent Bred 1s and Lost & Founds were always said to be a part of the reimagined line by everyone except NIKE. But notice how they gave EA to people who missed on Patents and Reimagined 3s, for the Reimagined Royals. They all are obviously related n

  • @Benjis.Day.0ut
    @Benjis.Day.0ut7 ай бұрын

    That Jordan 1 Royal would be really good for skating. The materials are perfect. Just throw the SB logo on them and they will be hyped

  • @dagaud221
    @dagaud2217 ай бұрын

    JLP that 2002 era you just rattled was great time for those of us that have collected since then

  • @chasemcginnis8236
    @chasemcginnis82367 ай бұрын

    Hufquake 90’s were 🔥🔥🔥

  • @SCHUHBACCA
    @SCHUHBACCA7 ай бұрын

    JLP should consider the Max 90 Black Citron Rave Pink. Wouldn't look too bad on him.

  • @ThingzNStuffJAH
    @ThingzNStuffJAH7 ай бұрын

    to answer your question about the name Reimagined, the Reimagined patent Bred release earlier in 2022 before the lost and found

  • @glorious1.070
    @glorious1.0707 ай бұрын

    Would love to see the Bling 4s re dropped.

  • @brpk6631
    @brpk66317 ай бұрын

    Air max 90 BRS without a doubt the flyiest

  • @teeznuhtz
    @teeznuhtz7 ай бұрын

    Is it worth going both days to complex con or should I just go for one

  • @WingZero1
    @WingZero17 ай бұрын

    I hope the Sneaker of the Year panel is actually good this year because last year it was a travesty and a waste of time

  • @shauncarlin4333
    @shauncarlin43337 ай бұрын

    Probably biased but the white Kith 990v6 is my shoe of the year personally, Ronnie never misses

  • @leocantu13
    @leocantu137 ай бұрын

    We need more stories and shoes from significant years from the boys

  • @floydkaretai4980
    @floydkaretai49807 ай бұрын

    How did they miss the AM90 Dave’s quality meats that also retro’d

  • @doctormodern2279
    @doctormodern22797 ай бұрын

    Them French blue Jordan 9s 😩😩

  • @Vegaworldpeace
    @Vegaworldpeace7 ай бұрын

    How did you guys forget the air max 90 hyperfuse 2013 QS -all red, all blue n all white joints

  • @StevenYoung-iw8nf
    @StevenYoung-iw8nf7 ай бұрын

    We need black metallic 5s back out

  • @jfarvideo
    @jfarvideo7 ай бұрын

    The black nubuck on the royal reimagined feels like OG materials for jordan… the blue suede is what throws it off for me. They should have made the royal blue hits the OG leather on the black nubuck. That would have been a smoother transition.

  • @biiwaash
    @biiwaash7 ай бұрын

    TmNT let's go

  • @CS-rb6uf
    @CS-rb6uf7 ай бұрын

    Please dont shut this show down like FSR

  • @Phamousillday
    @Phamousillday7 ай бұрын

    33:26 protect the cows for steve-o

  • @thebros8157
    @thebros81577 ай бұрын

    Everyone wants retros, but I think what happens is they see the quality of them and they weren't on par with the original 00's pair for example.

  • @unboxedTNT
    @unboxedTNT7 ай бұрын

    no love for the Retro 2 black chrome ? dang JLP

  • @greymandean
    @greymandean7 ай бұрын

    Like Dune going to shed a tear. Thank you streetwear Wealthly

  • @LLoewer1991
    @LLoewer19917 ай бұрын

    Brendan is right, we need Grape 5‘s with Nike heel

  • @underachiever47
    @underachiever477 ай бұрын

    daves quality meat air max 90 is probably the best of all time imo

  • @griand21
    @griand217 ай бұрын

    I would buy those olive SF AF1s if they rereleased em tbh

  • @xtynto8165
    @xtynto81657 ай бұрын

    yo welty you're tripping that new tmnt movie is fiyaaah

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