StockX CEO Scott Cutler on Fakes, Nike's Lawsuit, and Rejecting Shoes | The Complex Sneakers Podcast
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The Complex Sneakers Podcast is co-hosted by Joe La Puma, Brendan Dunne, and Matt Welty. This week they’re joined by StockX CEO Scott Cutler who discusses how he first got into sneakers, goes into detail on StockX’s authentication process and gives his thoughts on the current lawsuit between Nike and StockX. Also, the cohosts discuss if the Tiffany & Co x Nike Air Force 1 will make the top 10 sneakers of 2023, and Welty preaches well-rounded athleticism for any dire life situation.
EPISODE CHAPTERS / TIMESTAMPS:
00:00 - 20:42: Intros, Tiffany & Co x Nike Air Force 1 Release, The Value of Pull-Ups, When To Retire Your Shoes
20:43 - 37:26: Scott Cutler Joins CSP, What’s on Feet?, Scott’s Journey from StubHub to StockX
37:27 - 53:59: Scott on Leading StockX’s Growth, StockX's Authentication Process, StockX's Standards
54:00 - 1:10:08: Nike’s StockX Lawsuit, Managing a Marketplace, StockX Partnering With Brands
1:10:09 - 1:31:55: StockX Retail Competitors, Rejecting Fakes, Backdooring Product, Outro
SOLE COLLECTOR APP SKU'S:
Tiffany & Co. x Nike Air Force 1 Low "1837": dz1382 001
DJ Khaled x Air Jordan 5 "Crimson Bliss": dv4982 641
Nike LeBron 10 EXT "Cork": 580890 200
Tom Sachs x NikeCraft Mars Yard 2.0: aa2261 100
Adidas Top Ten Hi: d65161
Air Jordan 11 "Cherry": ct8012 116
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What’s the last sneaker you resold?
@El3ctroclash
Жыл бұрын
Tiffany AF-1. Hit it on snkrs lol. Sold it and ordered another SB grail
@djswany85
Жыл бұрын
Salehe 990v2
@kiko0426
Жыл бұрын
Travis reverse mocha
@topnotch710
Жыл бұрын
Salehe crocs
@Checkz_over_Stripez
Жыл бұрын
Big Red Boot 900 smackaroos
I want to see a new updated episode of Joe's shoe collection
I’ve seen just about every episode and I gotta tell ya ain’t nobody NOBODY better versed in big word corporate bs talk than this guy. I been lied to by wealthy old men before and it sounded a whole lot like this 😂
@GuavaConQueso
Жыл бұрын
Welty has asked 4 or 5 questions that he had to further specify because this guy gives the same answer no matter what.
@nevereasy9501
Жыл бұрын
He also resigned today 🫠🤡
@mauricioreal7384
Жыл бұрын
@@nevereasy9501 LOL
@jlmunny
Жыл бұрын
Way too much corporate talk
@BookerT69
Жыл бұрын
They didn’t pay you after your 👄 services ?
If you want big wig/corporate jargon that answers questions w/o actually answering anything, then this is the ep for you. Kinda weak ngl on the part of the crew to not ask questions like why StockX removed the authenticity guarantee on the site/app and why a refund for a shoe that is found to be fake that they sold is like pullin teeth?
@irunAMOK-
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, listening to this guy talk is like watching a Nascar race.
@Tealtown408
Жыл бұрын
Yeah bro should have been a politician
@flyingirish31
Жыл бұрын
Absolutely disgusting interview and what a scumbag CEO
@SneakCleaners519
Жыл бұрын
Couldn’t agree more
@SneakCleaners519
Жыл бұрын
They let him off the hook. They don’t refund anything they tell you to resell on the platform. Plain and simple
Scott Cutler = A1 politician
12:30 Love Joe's take... WEAR YOUR SHOES.....if they fall apart... they fall apart
He is the one guest in which I learned absolutely nothing.
@operator2549
Жыл бұрын
So you leaned a whole bunch from Action Bronson? 😅 but I guess that was Full Size Run, not exactly this show.
@taureangraves122
Жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@matthewschuster5414
Жыл бұрын
Facts😂. I was excited af for this episode but it was a complete letdown
@Kai1995__
Жыл бұрын
Loll bro really answered very few questions
@ripcity503
Жыл бұрын
He said so much without saying anything at all…sadly a skill of all great CEO’s.
Welty comin' correct on # of shoes owned vs one's sense of identification as a sneakerhead! His point really hit home for me, as someone who just recently hit Dunbar's number on my current collection - split between Nike/Adidas/NB/Crocs - and I'm happy w/ a lot of it. I've definitely seen my mentality change about it how much to focus on the game vs before. The shift is real and it feels like a relief for me in a sense, too.
@kevincollins8620
Жыл бұрын
Welty was trying to go somewhere with his point, but some go crazy and wear the shoes beyond simply collecting and looking at em, and have a wide appreciation for dozens of different types of sneakers and again HAVE to put em on with something interesting. The collector he's discussing is almost mythical. We always go too crazy.
As much as I was hoping for some juicy bits, I guess this was always about as much as we were ever going to get from 1) An active employee of a company, 2) the CEO of said company (and not a younger and less media trained person), and most importantly 3) someone who's company is currently in litigation with one of the most important counter-parties to their business. I am frankly surprised the StockX legal team allowed this. I think a follow up interview once they are done with their litigation is a must And whilst I agree that the tough questions were put to Scott, I would've loved to have seen a few tough follow ups to really press for an answer and not just the corporate speak we got. Great show as always
@beachparking3967
3 ай бұрын
9ey
He really sat and that chair and tried to dance around the tough questions was weak on his part. From all he said didn’t make me have any trust for stock x but instead showed that what the people and Nike had been saying was accurate
@flyingirish31
Жыл бұрын
Yup. Dude reaks of lies.
I liked that GMM reference @ 1:03 😂😂
Can we get a Joe Puma Collection video already?!?!?!?
What up guys . Always good whenever y'all are online. Also great news and topics keeping ears to the streets.
From Astor Chambers to this, is CRAZY. 😭
Weltys face when the guest was speaking 😂 “here we go with more corporate lingo…”
Those Action Bronson NB's give me Stray Rats vibes.
@3d1k3
Жыл бұрын
Facts. I think it’s coincidental but I had both pairs of the stray rats and I sold the lime green pair because I knew I was going for the Bronson and didn’t need both
The Tiffany AF1 will definitely be a top 3 choice for sneaker of the year of the panel
@airtec87
8 ай бұрын
ZzZZZz
I do agree with grabbing things just to say you have them in your collection. I grabbed a couple limited roshes I missed out on back in the day, trying to find in 11.5 to 13. I’ll even take good used pairs, knowing I can clean them up. Collecting is different for everyone
@ethan-se6yq
Жыл бұрын
I thought I was crazy for thinking bout grabbing a pair of old roshes. I was looking at the sunset pair
I appreciate the guys from FSR for providing the 🔥 Puma was 🐈 Great Convo.
My days boys... Killing it atm. Love the hustle
Matt makes a valid point in sneaker collecting and how your views change over time. I'm currently at that point where I don't want all these new retros from Jordan, and believe the quality isn't there like they were in the 00's and SOME from 10's so it makes me feel forced to seek out sneakers that dropped nearly 2-3 decades ago.
@BookerT69
Жыл бұрын
Yeah they aren’t made to hoop in like the 2000’s now they are just shells of themselves
@guccimane3731
Жыл бұрын
I feel you. I’ve been just hunting for older retros and OG’s. They’re made better. Just a little sole swap from a good surgeon and you’re back in the 00’s. I just got a 04 pair of French blue 12’s Vnds still wearable and no separation. They stomp the 2016 retro of that model.
Mr Dunne wearing the 2011’s for the win! I am going to pull mine out. Paint chipping and all!
@BookerT69
Жыл бұрын
Walked right in the store and bought them no line a week after they came out in 2011 😂
A JLP sneaker collection video would probably break the internet
@Jaleelsou_
Жыл бұрын
Or maybe it wouldn’t and that’s why he hasn’t done it
It would be cool to see each of u guys sneaker collections.
I don’t usually agree with Welty, but he’s right. Being in condition to run long distance isn’t a good barometer of how fit you are. And I love running too
JLP with the Patta Wave beard i like it
And talking about the pre release, he’s right about that. Usually the sneakers release overseas first. Now I have seen on stockx where the sell and buy button are greyed out because they haven’t been released in any country. I think they’re trying their best with what they have to deal with. And I think they’re idea of making the buyer the priority is the right thing to be honest. Probably the majority of sneaker customers (buyers or sellers) are non sneaker heads and just normal people looking for kicks. And they would expect a perfect pair. Btw I don’t buy on stockx unless I know it’s a pair they don’t have fakes of, otherwise I buy on eBay because they have amazing customer service. But I do sell on stockx because it’s the easiest to sell on for the most part.
Why do you need an nft to put a sneaker in storage? GOAT seems to be doing it with just a username and password.
Y’all went easy af on him. You needed to ask him the hard questions 🙄😩😭
He's so full of it. They give you a very small window to make it right and will only provide that service if you embarrass them publicly. All of these apps let fakes through.
@ktjacks1991
Жыл бұрын
🎯 2 separate occasions I emailed stockx for WEEKS w/o a response. I heard back immediately both times when I blasted them on Twitter. Ridiculous.
Already a minute in and my favorite podcast just referenced my favorite YT show (GMM)
No doubt Scott is an incredibly successful corporate business head, clearly you can hear this when he speaks, however he is clearly more about customer experience, evolution of digitisation, faster payments…this ain’t a business studies podcast fam! We wanna know if you dudes are selling fake Jordans! Just say yea so we can all move on!
@topnotch710
Жыл бұрын
Well said🤝
@mangosteen.
Жыл бұрын
Y'all want Scott to be just upfront and admit that there are fakes that pass through their platform, but reality is, he will NEVER admit to that. The moment he admits that is when StockX will come crashing down. Such news is detrimental to the company and the fact that he's a wallstreet guy for over 10 years, he knows how much any sort of recognition or acknowledgement of the issue can affect their company.
Great insight
I didn’t watch it yet. But I can’t wait to see Mathew James Jewel Anthony Welty fire this dude up. Giv’ em’ da hard-ones Welty!
@topnotch710
Жыл бұрын
That’s what I was looking forward to as well but it didn’t happen that way imo
Loved the episode but He beat around the bush on so many questions.
Ryan actin like he gon get mobbed by fans on his vacation. 🤣🤣
@topnotch710
Жыл бұрын
Like dawg, get a grip. No one’s checking for you out the country😂
@Kilterlvr
Жыл бұрын
Bro him and Welty are really big on themselves lol
@671oneblood
Жыл бұрын
Whos Ryan?
@ohiorichkidbeats
Жыл бұрын
@@671oneblood right, who the f*** Is ryan?🤷🤣
@HashPhantom
Жыл бұрын
Ryan Dunne, isn’t that a baseball player? 😂
He’s obviously never gone through a dispute with StockX customer service before. You almost need a social media post to go viral to get anywhere with them
Man you guys are getting soft. This guy would make a great politician because he’s full of BS. Anybody who’s ever had to deal with StockX knows it’s a complete nightmare if you ever wanna return something or feel something is off. 9 times out of 10 you can’t even get anybody to write you back for it takes weeks to even get a response or they just delete your account. I feel like you guys could’ve done better with some tougher questions. Y’all went harder on the guy from mischief and this is a major platform that a lot of people rely on not only for pricing but to buy and sell sneakers. This guy has a lot of questions that need to be answered and you brushed up against them but only stuck to the lawsuit with Nike. That’s not even the real issue with StockX it’s everything else and I may be the only one but I feel not guaranteeing authenticity anymore just puts them completely off the map for me.
@Freeskiingisdabest
Жыл бұрын
Thank you. Obviously the guys from Complex are great but they should have been way tougher on Cutler..
@tonyankers2099
Жыл бұрын
@@Freeskiingisdabest definitely, I watch all the complex stuff and I think they just want to stay neutral from here. Was expecting a little more harder questions but can understand why they didn’t. They won’t get good top level sneaker executives if they know they will get grilled when on the show. The guy from Stock X could have done a better job at admitting their past faults and explained how the company grew from them but he didn’t admit there is anything wrong with Stock X and acted like none of that stuff happens. I was blown away when he was talking about the guarantee of authenticity not being there anymore. Like what??? Your just gonna breeze right over that one like it’s no big deal. Of course your process hasn’t changed and that’s why you can’t guarantee it anymore.
Sick vid
very cool!
I will say, i've brought on 2 separate occasions dunks from stockX that had totally trashed boxes. I think the shoes were legit, but the boxes were rough
@topcat365
Жыл бұрын
A legitimate concern, however, it's up to stockx to pack em right and use the H taping/boxing method before shipping. Third-world countries use this method, yet stockx and many others still don't have a clue.
By far my favorite podcast. Love this
@BookerT69
Жыл бұрын
You must not listen to this pod then.
They should've asked him who won the last $1 raffle lol
What are some modest priced good running shoes though?
Welty turning into a stereotypical CrossFit guy 😂
Scott Cutler. Gotta lot of questions for this guy.
Not Matt Welty doing the CrossFit pull ups🤣🤣
You think Welty is Mr. Olympia from the way he talks about fitness.
thats why you wear your shows!!! they wont fall apart. wear it once or twice a mounth and it wont fall apart.
19:33 i agree w welty here
Welty said it best the person with the 8 pairs don’t get u hype beats everything come on what u know or u jus going with the flow
Welty just proved why nfts for shoes will be a thing! Listen to 15:49 -15:59.
This is what happens when you let a numbers guy run a company that knows nothing of the product his company sells
@flamingunicorn8003
Жыл бұрын
@Vindaloo those rumors have been out for a while, but I agree with you. If they are able to successfully fight off nikes law suit I wouldn't be surprised within a year of that they release intent for an ipo
@flamingunicorn8003
Жыл бұрын
@Vindaloo no arguement there my friend
This may be the first time the guest held back the episode. Still a great show, but Mr. Cutler offered the bare minimum, which is the polar opposite of the greatness Astor Chambers delivered, who has the best installment of the program to date. Of course, my opinion.
Action Bronsons NB look pretty dope with La Pumas fit
This weeks guest, “The Process”
the use of the word O.G. 😂
The cherry 11’s was the big release last year😭 thought he was gonna say lost and founds
Im not a huge Jordan 1 fan cause I'm a solid color guy. 2 tone cool but 4s, 5s, 6s and 11s is my go to. Its a toss up between the Metallic 5s and the Bred 4s for my grail. Favorite 1 is the OG Royal fa sho and Bred 1 #2
One of the better interviews forsure
Dayum. Brendan grilling him like he got a pair of fake shoe..😂😂😂
I stopped buying Air Max's. Breaks my heart to see my Atmos, Safari's and OG red fall apart. I just collect old sbs and dunks these days and wear them and don't care anymore.
what are the shoes pictured in the thumbnail?
Dudes straight lying. I’ve received a fake through them and was told to resell it back through them by customer service instead of just refunding me and shipping it back
Wealty dropping gems !
Love how JLP snuck in “10 new ones a year”(then whispers 25-50 grails) 😂😂😂😂
I used to get 30+ a year im down to about 5-10 a year last year all I got was lost n founds orange lobsters n like 3 pairs of dunks i have def slowed down on buying shoes
Dunne: stop interrupting your guests Welty: stop giving monologues to introduce your questions. Ask the question and incorporate your monologue into follow-up questions
I tried to buy a pair of jordan 1 low from them and was rejected, because the seller was rejected and there was no other seller.
Has anyone ever ordered from StockX and had their order process twice? I got billed two times for WC3… not sure what happened.
Stockx is purposely failing authentications to "show" their tough on it. However, they're failing legitimate pairs of Yeezy Foam Runners that come from Adidas, while making 15% profit just in purposely failing authentication.
There is no sneaker culture. It's a community. Questions to Scott could have been better. Nothing about this made me trust StockX more. I purchased a "Deadstock" pair of 09 Bron Cavs colourway, and they were worn! A scuff on the heal and a wear marks on the back sole.
A súper Welty is need it to take care of the apartment building ❤
Ive bought like 10 shoes from stock x and never had an issue…. All solid
@Junyar
Жыл бұрын
I’ve bought 14 shoes from stockx…all solid except for 2 of my recent purchases. 📉
Also if you want to know if a stockx tag is real use a black light. You will see the X on the back QR code light up. Fake ones don’t have the X glow it’s just a fake hologram of an X.
Welty with the ableist take - why not just be for people being active and moving their body?
Can ya get Killa Cam on here? Dipset
Welty was not entertained 😂
@davidsilva5321
Жыл бұрын
Is he ever?
Welty really made this one of the best episodes out.
Ty for asking him hard questions - did a solid job not answering fully but yall left nothing on the table.
La Puma about the snap his own leg😂 Compose ur self lol
@flyingirish31
Жыл бұрын
Rightfully so
Ryan Reynolds' dad runs StockX?
Bro said butter fly pull man f ing the air
In other words switch to goat guys
@flyingirish31
Жыл бұрын
Yup
@BookerT69
Жыл бұрын
Goat is the best by far I’ve never had a problem with them
At a glance, I thought that was Will Ferrell on the thumbnail
Enjoy the show as usual. Send me some merch hats, hoodie, something. Plzz I need to rep
Thinking you could outclimb or outrun a tiger is hilarious. You were dead the moment that tiger saw you lol
Is this an interview or an interrogation?
@mauricioreal7384
Жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
A longer episode ! Couldn’t wait for this one Kick game properrrr !! I just wore those BCIII’s and literally thought the same about the aging conversation This was such a detailed episode Such a beautiful conversation ! Really loved this one !
@JuanRodriguez-se9hn
Жыл бұрын
you cant be serious
Definitely not buying from StockX .
Knowing the Tom Sachs situation now
50:25 🧢🧢🧢
Yo Welty,.. How many marathon runners you know that can't move a f'n couch?! lol
17:45 F*** dude I feel this I have like 60 plus pairs of shoes and I feel that I need to stop but at the same time I want to resale and I want more or a hyped shoe comes and F**** it’s so hard
I have over 100 pairs and none of them are ds. I'll never get it.
Put the tables in-between each of the chairs. This is a sneaker show we want to see shoes and outfits on wide shots not shadows blocked by tables. Creates a more open set not like a classroom 😂
@MFSHECKS
Жыл бұрын
This is a podcast not a show, you want to see that go watch full size run
@sneakybloke
Жыл бұрын
You want to see Welty’s clothes and shoes? The most swaggerless person to ever put on sneakers
@KINGOFBROOKLYN3
Жыл бұрын
I hear you but they do the shoe cam lol. We don’t gotta see the shoes the whole show to know what they are. It’s a podcast not a runway
@671oneblood
Жыл бұрын
Be ready for that phone call to work for them now. It's coming any day 🤣😂😭
@christianocampo5461
Жыл бұрын
I agree with you, now all sneaker programs are about talking, talking and talking and only show pics, we like to see sneakers physically (Joe take some OG to the program) that would be interesting. No necessary has to be new releases. We want to see sneakers, the story, your opinion about the time they release, etc. Many things to do on sneaker content... Fashion and kicks are the key for better content... In my opinion the 3 hosts seems to be tired all episodes, more energy guys... Just saying... I think your the best podcastof sneakers around the world, its time to innovate, please think about it...
Cement 3's let's go
Why do these OG authenticaters let stock x list shoes that don’t even exist lol I don’t get it’s some shoes that weren’t made a certain size are listed on this site 😂 Y’all needa do your own research at the end of the day fam ‘
Welty ❤️
Did y’all ask them about internal audits and how many fakes they pass that they catch on an audit? And what % of fakes pass? This is the MOST important question and y’all didn’t ask it. Unreal.