Rhetty, I'm from KCMO and know a little bit about this area of KCK. The Wyandot Nation actually owns most of the southern half of that block in Downtown KCK. The building you shot at (8:30) is not an apartment building. It's actually the back side of the 7th Street Casino, which is owned by the local Wyandot tribe. I remember the controversy when it opened: The state of Kansas tried to stop the casino since casinos are illegal in the Sunflower State. (They didn't want a casino in the middle of Downtown KCK.) The Wyandot Nation fought Kansas through the federal courts for years over that casino. They won. In the end the courts said that that patch of land where the casino and cemetery are located is protected federal land, owned by the Wyandot Nation through several treaties with Uncle Sam. Kansas has absolutely no jurisdiction over it. The courts then also allowed the Wyandot to set up the 7th Street Casino next to the cemetery. Kansas was pissed off at the time. LOL!

@RhettyforHistory

4 жыл бұрын

Those laws that you are explaining in Kansas are the same here in Oklahoma for casinos. I had no idea that was a casino there and now it makes sense that it was backed up to the cemetery like that. Usually the casinos are newer and nicer than that. I think the disturbing thing here is how sad the state of the cemetery was in considering how close the Wyandot are to it. Basically right on the grounds of it. Just my opinion but really no excuse for all the trash and disrepair. Seems disrespectful especially considering how some of the ancestors fought so hard to keep it sacred. Thank you for watching and sharing the information you know.

@halfsky

3 жыл бұрын

I'm a member of the Wyandot Nation of Kansas. We fought the Oklahoma Wyandots in court who were the ones that wanted to construct the casino. We did not want the casino instructed, especially since it was originally intended to be built directly over the cemetery itself. My grandfather's family, including his brother, are buried there.

I did a bit of research only because the first woman to be on the Supreme Court was in 1982. Mrs. Zane Conley was the first Native American woman to argue a case (for that exact cemetery) before the Supreme Court. I found this: Eliza Burton "Lyda" Conley (ca. 1869 - 1946) was an Wyandot-American lawyer of Native American and European descent, the first woman admitted to the Kansas bar. She was notable for her campaign to prevent the sale and development of the Huron Cemetery in Kansas City, now known as the Wyandot National Burying Ground. She challenged the government in court, and in 1909 she was the first Native American woman admitted to argue a case before the Supreme Court of the United States.

@RhettyforHistory

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you for watching and sharing what you found. The cemetery does have some interesting history and most notably with her. I think I am going to have another video that will detail that a little more.

@CupcakeCartel1

4 жыл бұрын

RhettyforFun That would be very interesting!

@enricosantana9062

4 жыл бұрын

@@RhettyforHistory I remember reading some of Zane Grey's earlier book and I'm pretty sure his brother Johnathan married a daughter of the Wyandot cheif. Interesting that its in Missouri because when he wrote it he just used the historical term of 'Boarder' land. Thanks Rhetty for your great videos!

@RhettyforHistory

4 жыл бұрын

The term Borderland would make sense because this is Kansas City, Kansas which as we know is on the border with Kansas City, Missouri. Thank you for watching.

@richardzanesmith9411

3 жыл бұрын

@@enricosantana9062 actually it was Isaac Zane ,Jonathans brother, who was adopted by the Wyandot and married Chief Tarhes daughter Myeerah who is my direct ancestor

People need to call and complain about the condition of it. It should be cleaned up and walkway fixed

@RhettyforHistory

4 жыл бұрын

I wasn't sure if they had started some of the repairs in the fall and never finished or what. I'm hoping they can continue the repairs some time this year. I'm sure it's the Wyandot Nation that is the caregiver of the cemetery. Thank you for watching Gypsy!

@halfsky

3 жыл бұрын

@@cathecavanaugh615 the casino is owned by the Oklahoma Wyandots. I'm a member of the Wyandot Nation of Kansas and as a child I would participate in the regular cleanup of the cemetery. I am now located in Seattle. Your assumptions and condescension are not accurate.

I knew of this cemetery, however, because it's part of the Kansas side of Kansas City, this area of town is known to be scruffy/scrappy/unkempt and not as frequently visited/patronized. Eliza Burton Conley is considered to be the most notable name interred at this cemetery. Thanks for sharing. The casino just around the corner from the cemetery (I believe) is maintained by the Wyandot Nation and/or other Nations?

@RhettyforHistory

4 жыл бұрын

It is sad to see it a little neglected. I figured it was probably the Wyandot Nation that was responsible for the care but I wasn't sure. It could possibly be the city? I'm hoping they are able to make the necessary repairs on it some time this year. I completely missed the casino that you're speaking of. Eliza is an interesting one. I will probably do another video that drives more into the history of the cemetery and people. Thank you so much for watching Jackie!

I visited KC many times and can’t believe I missed this. My friend and I walked all over KC when I could walk well so I’m disappointed we missed this. Thank you for do such a fine job. Stay safe. ❤️🥰

@RhettyforHistory

4 жыл бұрын

Most people when they visit Kansas City go to the Missouri side and not the Kansas side. But there are no fancy signs on for this cemetery or anything so I figured not too many know about it. Thank you so much for watching Pam!

@psleep4255

4 жыл бұрын

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@psleep4255

4 жыл бұрын

RhettyforFun FYI I was on the Kansas side but neither she nor I knew about it. Maybe some day I can get visit. Thx again for such an informative and obscure site (at least to me).

This was an interesting, but very sad cemetery. So many unknown and vandalized graves. Thank you for sharing the history of this burial ground. I hope the city gets in there and does some repairs.

@RhettyforHistory

4 жыл бұрын

I'm not sure if the city will have a hand in it but hopefully the Wyandot will. I'm sure the current events have played into it though. Thank you for watching!

The farther east you go the older the cemeteries. I’ve seen old cemeteries in Maryland and Massachusetts and other states from the 1700’s. I’ve seen them in the middle of cities where the streets just curved around them. I was in one in Maryland one time from the 1700’s across the street from where I was getting my truck loaded. It was very run down but covered about 3 acres. There were businesses all around it. The rock wall around it was as impressive as the grave markers.

@RhettyforHistory

4 жыл бұрын

You're right about that. I've seen some in Virginia from the 1600's. And go way further east overseas and it gets older and older. Pretty interesting. The oldest I have seen is 2500 B.C. Thank you for watching my friend!

We have Pocahontas North American Indian princess buried in St George's church, Gravesend in the county of Kent, England, Her memory is honoured with a life size bronze statue ...🇬🇧

@RhettyforHistory

4 жыл бұрын

That is pretty cool! I'm hoping to get over there and see that one day. Thank you for watching!

Very Interesting, Im from Ohio and the name Wyandot is Very Well known, also, we have a small town called Huron Ohio. This cemetery Should be shown alittle More Respect etc..Good Job Rhetty..Stay Safe..

@RhettyforHistory

4 жыл бұрын

That makes perfectly good sense as to why those names are known there. I'm sure there are some members of this nation there. I would like to see this cemetery cleaned up a little. Hopefully they can get to it this year. Thank you for watching!

@Chief2Moon

4 жыл бұрын

RhettyforFun I believe there's a cemetery in the church/mission yard maintained yet (although I haven't been there for many years). Upper Sandusky along the Sandusky River was their last Ohio reservation, which they left in 1843.

@Rest65432

2 ай бұрын

Huron County Ohio is where i am from. Norwalk, Willard, etc. Not far from Huron Ohio which is near Vermilion, Mittawanga Park, Ruggles and Beulah beach. The Wyandot teritory in Ohio was quite expansive until 1843 when the last Wyandots left for Indian Territory (Kansas City and Oklahoma). Andrew Jackson forced Indians East of Mississippi to live West.

I believe this is the cemetery for the group that Mathias Splitlog migrated with. The first native American millionaire who owned the property where the trainyard is. He sold that when the railroad came to town and migrated to Oklahoma. His house is on Splitlog Hill at 201 orchard street. He donated the land for church close by. He is buried at Cayuga Ok. next to the church he built. Look him up his story would make a good movie.

@RhettyforHistory

4 жыл бұрын

That is an interesting character. I have never heard of him before. Thank you for watching and telling me about him.

Thank you for sharing this this helps me to bear my isolation

@RhettyforHistory

4 жыл бұрын

You're welcome Denita! I'm glad I could help a little. I appreciate you watching!

@frankramirez7693

3 жыл бұрын

Hopefully only temporary isolation. May you have a blessed spring

The Wyandotte nation was the last native group to leave Ohio, with the last reservation there. Many took the American side against the British in 1812. The Prophet, Tecumseh’s brother, had a chief executed after accusing him of witchcraft. That leader was Leather lips. Since the tribe sided with the USA it would not be a surprise to see many with “white” names. If I remember correctly the tribe split when their reservation was shortened, many choosing to head west earlier then 1842. I was always interested in the tribe because my grandpa said we had a Wyandotte in our family tree. They are a very important part of Ohio history.

Excellent...I really like hearing about the Native Americans....

@RhettyforHistory

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much for watching John. More will be coming on some Native Americans.

I was born in Wyandot County Ohio, I remember a cemetery there with an Indian church in it.

@RhettyforHistory

4 жыл бұрын

That is interesting. I have never been there in Ohio. Thank you for watching!

Brilliant that you are publicly documenting all this history, & getting people talking.

@RhettyforHistory

3 жыл бұрын

I enjoy doing this. It's history and you never know if it will disappear. Thank you for watching!

Thank you,for sharing love your videos,❤️😃😀stay safe Rhetty,

@RhettyforHistory

4 жыл бұрын

You're welcome and I'm glad to hear you love them. Thank you for watching.

I love cemetery history. But I love anything to do with my Native American History of any kind. Thank you for the work you put in to bring it to us on KZread. M.👍

I have such a soft heart for Native Americans and all they endured. Even in death the land around their resting place is not peaceful.. The flowers starting to come up are irises.

@RhettyforHistory

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for watching as helping out on the flower identification.

@laurab1089

2 жыл бұрын

My pleasure

Very Interesting,thank you Rhetty,love these sort of cemetery's/Burial Grounds.

@RhettyforHistory

4 жыл бұрын

You're welcome Wendy. I'm glad you find them interesting and I appreciate you watching!

Thank you for shedding light on this cemetery Rhetty. With some TLC this cemetery could be absolutely beautiful, and everyone buried there deserves it to. Would also be nice if every grave could be identified, everyone deserves to be remembered. ❤️Jodie 🇦🇺

@RhettyforHistory

2 жыл бұрын

I'm not sure they will ever get every grave identified or it probably would have been done many years ago. I would like to see this fixed up. I guess it's sort of a conflict between the two tribes. I'm not sure. Hopefully I can go back and see how this is. Thank you for watching Jodie!

Another COOL video. Thanks!! Yes--it is sad to see trash in/near a cemetery. Theres no excuse besides the wind blowing small things...so sad.

@RhettyforHistory

4 жыл бұрын

There really was a large amount of trash in there and much of it looked as though it had been in therefore quite some time. The neglect on the entrances was pretty bad as well. Thank you so much for watching!

thank you for sharing..another interesting video

@RhettyforHistory

4 жыл бұрын

You're welcome and thank you for watching!

My grandmother lived in Upper Sandusky, Ohio. I found out later that the Wyandot Indians lived next to the Sandusky River and the site of their former village was turned into a park in Upper Sandusky. I remember there was a teepee made out of plaster or concrete next to the big pond in the park. From what I have read, the Wyandots were peaceful but were relocated. That saddened me.

@RhettyforHistory

2 жыл бұрын

It is sad. They went thru a lot. Thank you for watching!

@Rest65432

2 ай бұрын

I visited the Methodist Church and cemetery in Upper Sandusky when I was in school. I actually heard the Wyandot language spoken there. There was some people who were Wyandot visiting and they spoke about the Church and its history.

Amazing video, love these kinds of Cemeteries

@RhettyforHistory

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you Sherron! I'm glad to here you enjoyed it and I appreciate you watching!

I did not know that about the Huron name. We where taught in school, and in movies and all about the trail of tears and the Cherokee( Tsa La Gi ), but the truth is there where several nations affected by it. My understanding is that Andy Jackson wanted all Native peoples moved west of the Mississippi.

@RhettyforHistory

4 жыл бұрын

Each tribe has their own trail of tears if they are here in Oklahoma. Very sad stories.

The flowers are Iris's.

@RhettyforHistory

4 жыл бұрын

You're probably right on that. I really had no idea. Thank you for watching!

Thank you for sharing

@RhettyforHistory

4 жыл бұрын

You're welcome and thank you for watching!

Thanks for this interesting and respectful video on the cemetery. Nice work. I think I visited this cemetery over 40 years ago. I drove by there often back in the late 1980s and early 90s. I remember local TV news stories about it in the late 1970s. It is strange to see a cemetery in the middle of downtown Kansas City, KS. You were in a rough part of the KC area. Be careful.

@RhettyforHistory

4 жыл бұрын

It was little rough looking but I have been in worse areas. I do wonder how nice everything was 40 years ago. Thank you for watching.

@richardzanesmith9411

3 жыл бұрын

it was chosen by my ancestors because it is actually the highest spot in the area. Its hard to tell that now until you are there and see how all the ground slopes down from there

Fascinating thank you!🌹

@RhettyforHistory

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much for watching Ellen!

Thank you for sharing this with us. Very interesting. It really need some work done to make it a bit cleaner and show respect.

@RhettyforHistory

4 жыл бұрын

Yes it does. I'm hoping some improvements can be made soon. I'm sure it's the Wyandot that are responsible for the care and upkeep. Thank you for watching!

The condition of this place is absolutely deplorable. You would think that Kansas City, KA would take good care of this sacred space.

Ty for sharing the Garrett's could be related to me some how..but ty again for sharing

@RhettyforHistory

4 жыл бұрын

You're welcome. That would be interesting for you to research and find out. Thank you for watching!

A very nice tour thank you. History I didn’t know. City monuments often are unreadable because of acid rain from pollution it erodes the marble.

@RhettyforHistory

4 жыл бұрын

You're welcome and thank you for watching!

Thank you that was very interesting. Shame about the disrepair.

@RhettyforHistory

4 жыл бұрын

I was hoping they would get to it pretty soon but I suppose all of this will put more of a delay on it. Thanks for watching.

So glad that you were able to find Chief graves. Rest In Peace.

@RhettyforHistory

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you for watching.

Very sad what they did to the indigenous people living here at the time. I knew Ohio had that tribe living there but I didn’t know they were forced to relocate from Ohio.

@RhettyforHistory

4 жыл бұрын

I knew we had them here in Oklahoma but I didn't realize that they sort of made a stop in Kansas like that. Thank you so much for watching Paul!

Very good video. Thank you for doing this. They need to leave the cemetery alone and they need to fix it up.

Another reference source for this one is from a book called "Our People And Where They Rest," Vol 12, p. 96 by James Tyner, et al., American Indian Institute, Univ of Oklahoma, 1982. Many Oklahoma libraries have it, or available at your local LDS Family History Center. Find A Grave has a listing of around 370 burials.

in the 1960's there was a movement to remove and relocate the burials; fortunately there was a "reversionary clause" in the deeding of the lands in Wyandotte County out west to the old Indian Boundary at aboute N. 72nd St. KC Ks. The whole area had a revisioary clause if the Huron Cemetary was ever violated.

@RhettyforHistory

4 жыл бұрын

Strange. I didn't see anything on that for those years. Sounds like that cemetery has really been thru a lot. Thank God so much for watching!

The Native Americans consider their cemetaries sacred. Im surprised the Indians let this cemetary get out of control. The grounds looks well maintained.

@RhettyforHistory

4 жыл бұрын

You're right about them believing the grounds are sacred. I think they initiated something on it. I'm not sure if it was in the fall and they put it on pause for the spring or what. I hope they can give it a little attention it deserves. Thank you so much for watching!

What a shame to see our brothers and sisters treated so poorly! Are we really that vacant?

The Wyndotte Tribe now has a very modern casino located in Wyndotte Oklahoma, near Miami Oklahoma. The town of Wyndotte is very small and their casino is pretty large here in our area. We have 9 tribes located here in the Miami Oklahoma area with the Wyndotte Tribe being one of them.

What a sad cemetery that is. Many broken and missing headstones.

@RhettyforHistory

2 жыл бұрын

It is sad to see. It's just old and removed from most people's thoughts. Thank you for watching Gwen!

Great as always Rhett but quite sad to see people damage the graves. I assume that land must be prime property and someone has their eyes on it Good work. Keep safe it's a bit scary here.

@RhettyforHistory

4 жыл бұрын

You're welcome. I'm not sure if the damage is from care over time or some vandalism. Thank you so much for watching!

Hello Rhett, I was able to catch last half of your live feed last night, it was good live feed. You are aware of Wynadotte, OK, south east of Miami and north east of Afton along US 60; there are a lot of Wyandots living in that area. It's been several years since I've been up in that area, but I remember being told and seeing an old Indian church with a cemetery around the church and I was told it was partly Wyandot burials and Delware burials. Might be worth checking into. As always, great video and with great history!

@RhettyforHistory

4 жыл бұрын

I definitely need to make my way up to that area when I can so I can explore some of that. It's interesting that they are all the same people and yet they split. Wyandotte Nation of Oklahoma and Wyandot Nation of Kansas. Thank you for watching my friend.

@richardzanesmith9411

3 жыл бұрын

@@RhettyforHistory I'm an enrolled Wyandot and live here in Wyandotte Oklahoma. If you want to visit to the area here let me know! lot of history here.

@RhettyforHistory

3 жыл бұрын

I'm sure there are some interesting cemeteries in the area that have some wonderful history. Any that I should know about?

@richardzanesmith9411

3 жыл бұрын

@@RhettyforHistory there is the Wyandotte Nation cemetery, the Council House cemetery and Splitlog Cemetery and several small ones scattered around.

@RhettyforHistory

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you Richard. I'll have to check those out. I know I have never been to those

They won’t fix it until someone has accident, great video once again

@RhettyforHistory

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you and I appreciate you watching!

Mathias Splitlog married into the Barnett family. His future wife's grandfather loaned him 35 cents to buy and axe when they arrived in Kansas. He made enough money cutting wood to buy a steam engine that had fallen from a barge. Started his first business after he recovered it from the river.

@RhettyforHistory

4 жыл бұрын

That's an interesting story. I may have to do a story on this one. How did you learn about him?

@slowtwist

4 жыл бұрын

@@RhettyforHistory I am a local history nut. Have to blame my high school history teacher for that one. I think I found his story looking at the history of the church he built for his wife.

Reading all the comments were just as informative as your narrative. I hope the do try & restore it & give back some dignity to those buried there. With today's technology you think they could detect where more graves are. When the trees are in bloom & the grass green. I would think could look quiet pretty especially where the iris are planted. Thank you for another excellent video & a big thank you to those who commented with additional information. 🇦🇺🐨👍🏼❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️ Australia. If you shine a torch on it you sometimes pick up the writing

I believe the flowers around the once grave are irises. We have some scrubby ones in our yard. lol

@RhettyforHistory

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you for the additional information on the flowers. I appreciate you watching as well.

Good video, it's a shame how many cemeteries are in need of care. You would think cities or townships would have caretakers maintaining them. More jobs.

It's shameful to see how terribly this cemetery is treated. I feel ashamed myself and I have no reason to.

@RhettyforHistory

3 жыл бұрын

Hopefully with the last year + they have started making a little progress on it. It's a shame to see it deteriorating like that. Thank you for watching!

Also, In 1906 the U. S. Secretary of the Interior was authorized to sell land that had been reserved for public burial grounds by treaty with the Indians. Lydia and Helena Conley, descendants of the Wyandotte tribe took possession of the cemetery, padlocked the gate, built a cabin or "fort" in the cemetery and vowed death to anyone attempting to take the land. The case reached the United States Supreme Court while the fight continued. One "fort" was torn down, but another appeared. It is said that the sisters defended the cemetery with shotguns and pronounced curses on those that tried to evict them. In 1913 the United States Congress repealed the statute and the war of seven years ended.

@richardzanesmith9411

3 жыл бұрын

yes, this is all true

Sad that it has been ignored.

@RhettyforHistory

4 жыл бұрын

It is sad to see it in disrepair. I was hoping they would change that this year but I'm sure there may be a little delay on that this year. Thank you for watching Jeni!

Can't believe that you didn't caught the fact that Joseph White [1830-1956] lived up to 126 years old if he had a birthday in 1956.

Thank you, like it also.

@RhettyforHistory

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you for watching Doug!

I used to work for the Chamber of Commerce there in the 80s and passed by there all the time

I love hearing about the Native Americans and their burial crowns and their lives in the past I'm glad they won and didn't move that Cemetery that is not right for any Cemetery to get moved and do that to him that's Holy Ground just cuz I want to put something there I am so happy they won and I hope they keep winning very nice Cemetery lot of history there you have a nice day stay safe a devoted fan

@RhettyforHistory

2 жыл бұрын

Fortunately we now have laws on the books on the Federal leval that protect all Native American graves and burial grounds. I would love to see all of the other races have some legislature in the same way. Thank you for watching and I appreciate you commenting on all the videos as well!

My grandfathers great grandma Lyda Conley was the one who fought for Huron infront of the Supreme Court and Lyda and her sister would stay there night and day sometimes.

@RhettyforHistory

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for watching and sharing more about your family and what they did to protect the cemetery!

I dont believe that they should EVER be moved......... It's a shame at how the American Indian was treated in life, and now in death. We all should be ashamed

Two-three years ago I went here and took 20 photos of this place, then my phone was too full so I opted to delete all the photos of this place. Sad, cause it wasn't that dilapidated like that..... Such a shame I deleted those photos.

@RhettyforHistory

3 жыл бұрын

Sounds like it really went bad quickly and that is sad. Thank you for watching.

It's sad how people do things. Really should be fixed. I bet if someone got hurt out there they would probably try to sue the city. That's sad too that people are the way they are now a days. Life is precious. I 👍🙏🙏

@RhettyforHistory

4 жыл бұрын

Well maybe not so much the city as the Wyandot Nation. I'm sure they are the owners and caretakers. Not sure what the back story on the neglect is. Thank you for watching Rebecca.

Traditionally the Attiskein ceremony or feast of the dead is when bodies are buried in an ossuary wrapped in furs and possesions are placed within. Used to be every 10 yeaes the villages moved (included the deceased) to another area

I discovered that cemetery in 1983 when I first moved here. There was no wooden walkway then. There were explanatory plaques on Main Street side of the grounds that tells the story. Also in Kansas City KS Tecumseh’s brother is buried. In Shawnee, KS which is maybe 5-6 miles South is Chief zBlue Jackets grave.

@RhettyforHistory

3 жыл бұрын

Yes there are plaques there. When I first arrived there were homeless that scattered out of the cemetery. There were also a few that were camped out by those plaques so I did not film it because they were there. The poor cemetery is in a sad state with feces and trash in it.

@Michelle-fh2dp

3 жыл бұрын

@@RhettyforHistory Well I don’t doubt it it’s been 30 years since I’ve seen it so I’m sure it probably isn’t worse shape now and that’s very sad

@RhettyforHistory

3 жыл бұрын

Yes it is. I hope it gets some much needed care soon.

@Michelle-fh2dp

3 жыл бұрын

@@RhettyforHistory Me too!!!

The French called them Hures (the brushy hair of the Wild Boars) because of the hairstyle worn by some of the Wendat.

The grave of Dr gray eyes really sparked my curiosity. So, I have been trying to research who she was and yes she was a woman doctor. I have not found out much about her yet but curious if you have more information? Thanks for a fun video that left me curious to all the people who rest there.

@RhettyforHistory

2 жыл бұрын

I haven't researched her any further. I'm sure there are many stories in the cemetery.

You should contact the Indian casino's in the area and tribes. Tell them to watch this video. And tell them how shameful this disrespect to their ancestors is. That there should be better care for these grounds

We had Wyandot(te) in Michigan too. Very interesting

@RhettyforHistory

2 жыл бұрын

That is interesting. I knew they were in the Ohio are but didn't realize they were there too. Thanks for sharing that.

@lindaball6714

2 жыл бұрын

@@RhettyforHistory there’s a Wyandotte, Mich outside of Detroit about 20 minutes. It’s considered “down river” area. I believe our Natives did some fur trading as occupations I guess more so trading with whites for supplies, not like a job so to speak but a way to obtain goods. I know the French from Canada did the same course I’m talking way back. Detroit was actually a Fort way back 1790 so before it was Michigan

@RhettyforHistory

2 жыл бұрын

That is fascinating. Basically just barely outside of Detroit. Is that considered a suburb of Detroit?

@lindaball6714

2 жыл бұрын

@@RhettyforHistory ya, it’s still Wayne County. If you lived there though, or like me Garden City, MI you’d probably just say Detroit cause no one knows where you’re talking about

@lindaball6714

2 жыл бұрын

I was reading the comments here, not pressing no one, but with cemeteries that have societies anyone can donate their time or little money to help. Just a thought. Lots of them have 2x a year clean up days

Wow, one was 126 yrs old?

@RhettyforHistory

4 жыл бұрын

May have to pause and zoom in but I think I made a mistake on that year. I don't think anyone was that age in there.

Another great history lesson and I would love to see it at night.

@RhettyforHistory

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for watching Sally!

Joseph White 1830 to 1956. He was 126 yrs old ? Wow, needs to be looked into !!!

@RhettyforHistory

4 жыл бұрын

I probably made a mistake reading it. Unless it flashed up with that date?

1700....wow

I'm happy they got the land in the casino in the cemetery

@RhettyforHistory

4 жыл бұрын

Yes but I guess it's a point of contention. It's still sort of a dispute somewhat of the Wyandot and the Wyandotte. Originally same nation but one is in Kansas and one is in Oklahoma. The Oklahoma one has the Casino. The Kansas one is the one that has fought for the cemetery. They have had sort of a disagreement on it.

Everyone has made a great comment. But has anyone tried to contact the Wyandot indian tribe to see if they may know who is buried where? Seems to me that would be the logical thing to do.

@RhettyforHistory

4 жыл бұрын

There may be a survey that Connely did more than 100 years ago. He was member of the nation. Hopefully the Wyandot Nation of Kansas or the Wyandotte Nation of Oklahoma has something. Maybe even the city or county has something. It's going to need some pushing, help and funding to get anything done.

@jamesmaroon6161

4 жыл бұрын

@@RhettyforHistory Actually going to call them today. I really appreciate the come back. You have a great day sir. I have subscribed to your channel.

@jamesmaroon6161

4 жыл бұрын

@@RhettyforHistory I spoke to the chief of the Wyandot today. He said they will be putting a fence around the property and will be doing more research to find out who is buried there. He told me to tell you thanks for doing the video.

@richardzanesmith9411

3 жыл бұрын

@@RhettyforHistory actually William Connelley was not a tribal member. He did come to Kansas and Oklahoma as an anthropologist to collect stories, lore and language.

@richardzanesmith9411

3 жыл бұрын

a lot of our ancestors graves we do know,. but there are many unmarked graves as well.

The flowers are Iris. Very hardy perennials

@RhettyforHistory

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for watching and telling what those flowers are.

Wendat is the ancestry of my grandmother that goes back to the 1800s from Canada. The origin of the Wyandot came from the Petun near Penetanguishene Canada. The dialect of the Wyandot is a bit different from Wendat (mainly the Bear Clan). Some Erie, Neutrals moved in from their territory because of the Iroquois seeking their lands by warring against them. Since 1650 a majority of the Erie, Neutrals, Wenro were dispersed and others fled westward and others eastward. Many Seneca have Erie ancestors because of kidnapping the remnants to make up for lost members of their nation. Especially warriors.

Sad.

@RhettyforHistory

3 жыл бұрын

Yes it is. I hope they can make some progress in the cemetery. Thank you for watching!

My great great grandmother was wyandotte/Wyandot. Sad this cemetery has not been kept up. There are no more of these Indian tribe from what I was told. The building you are speaking of was most likely apts in the 30-50's. Those are fire escapes.

@RhettyforHistory

3 жыл бұрын

That building is a casino from the Wyandotte Nation in Oklahoma. The cemetery seems to be in dispute with the Wyandot Nation of Kansas. Both are very much around.

@richardzanesmith9411

3 жыл бұрын

we Wyandot are a live and well thank you!

Im pretty sure the flowers were Irisis , hopefully the Wyandot Nation will fix up this cemetery , if they are anything Cherokee Nation I know they have the funds...if you go back to Texas and find a Red Clay Cemetery plz do a episode about it....My family has not been able to find it...Thanks for the video!

@RhettyforHistory

2 жыл бұрын

I'm not sure how I would find a Red Clay cemetery. Sounds like it is hidden or lost. Do you know the general area where it should be?

@kathycole4474

2 жыл бұрын

@@RhettyforHistory suppose to be by the Red River close to Oklahoma and Texas border...I haven't been able to find it...

@RhettyforHistory

2 жыл бұрын

Is it close to a particular town?

@kathycole4474

2 жыл бұрын

@@RhettyforHistory Its my great grandmother she was Indian Choctaw I believe by her maiden name Raper ..alot of them lived around Lake Eufaula...but we really don't have alot of info...thought maybe one day you'd run across it..since you find all the old cemeteries

It just occurred to me that "Rhettyforfun" is a play on words for Ready for fun. LOL Also, guess what Rhetty? NPS just announced no entrance fees! So, now you can go to Wilson's Creek free of charge. LOL I am gonna go tomorrow if all goes to plan.

@RhettyforHistory

4 жыл бұрын

That is interesting that they aren't charging fees! Hope you had a great time!

@JoshuaMuse

4 жыл бұрын

@@RhettyforHistory Yeah, it was nice. A bit rainy, but no one else was there.

In downtown Kansas City. They should be ashamed of their selves.

The government need to care for them.

@iluvmusicals21

3 жыл бұрын

It's Native American property, the US government has no jurisdiction. The casino brings in plenty of money to pay for maintenance.

You would think that the city would clean this cemetery & make it alot more presentable! But to them like many, may not care because of it being a Indian Cemetery! A possibility is all....

@RhettyforHistory

4 жыл бұрын

I don't think it's their's to do what they want. It is either the Wyandot of Kansas' or the Wyandotte of Oklahoma.

In answer to the question of the flowers they're Iris.

@RhettyforHistory

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you Julie

@juliehawkins3907

4 жыл бұрын

You're welcome 😊

Guess thats where the wyandot chickens got their name?

The Dot ..... Kansas City, Kansas

@RhettyforHistory

4 жыл бұрын

What about them?

Fort Sill has a cemetery with the last great Comanche warrior interred, his sister and one wife (?). Comanche tribes were not defeated for 50 years because they had horseback warrior unequaled except by the Mongols.

@RhettyforHistory

4 жыл бұрын

I think you're are referring to Quannah Parker and his mother and sister that is beside him.

Joseph White... 1830 to 1956 ?? 126 years old ??

THE CONDITION IS DISGRACEFUL!

@RhettyforHistory

3 жыл бұрын

Yes it is. I'm hoping they did something this last year but with the Pandemic it seems doubtful.

The American Indian made this country.Tony

Head Stone: Joseph White 1830-1956 This would make this Huron Indian 126 years old! ???

@RhettyforHistory

2 жыл бұрын

Supposed to be 1856 so I think I misspoke.

Is that Zane gray writer ..wonder

@richardzanesmith9411

3 жыл бұрын

Zane Greys real name was Pearl Grey . He took the name Zane as a pen name. He was a relative of one of Isaac Zanes Sisters Betty Zane

This is shameful, looks sad and uncaring. Someone needs to get off the pot.

The Brother is a Master Mason, 3rd Degree. Probably his Blue Lodge is there in KC. He has found the Light. So mode it be.

Those dates and you just get a red out 1830 to 1953 that’s 126 years old is that right

@RhettyforHistory

4 жыл бұрын

I think I made a mistake in the ending year. I'm sorry about that.

Let's hope the Indians see this video and try and put the stones back together that would be great 💦💦💦

Hiram/Hyram is pronounce as "HIgh-ram". A friendly bit of advice to your fine videos: please use the camera to point, not your hand. Using the hand to point and not the camera is unprofessional. Keep up the cemetery visits and telling of its associated history. Bravo.

A small correction for you. Wyandotte is the correct spelling. You left some letters out.

@RhettyforHistory

4 жыл бұрын

It is interest because you are correct. But there is a difference in this one here. There is a Wyandotte Nation of Oklahoma and a Wyandot Nation of Kansas. So the interesting thing is most of the members of this tribe moved to Oklahoma. That is sort of where the controversy happened. Some of the tribe stayed in the area of the cemetery where they were first dropped off the steamboat. Anyways the tribe in Oklahoma wanted to sell this land even though it had their people on it. That's where the tribal members that where in the area of this cemetery said no. That will not happen. It went to the supreme court and things had to be changed to secure this burial grounds future. I will have another video detailing more of the history. It is fascinating. Thank you for watching.

@walterfink9782

4 жыл бұрын

@@RhettyforHistory History has a way of changing things. Good or bad.

@walterfink9782

4 жыл бұрын

@@RhettyforHistory I worked across the street from the library, years ago. It was a building then. It's now a parking lot. The building was Sam's Loan Office. A huge pawn shop.

@RhettyforHistory

4 жыл бұрын

It does. The final name change happened when the tribal members or at least a good portion of them came to Oklahoma. The spelling in Kansas and Ohio is the original way.

@richardzanesmith9411

3 жыл бұрын

In our language its pronounced Waⁿdat ,(two syllables) which came to be known as "villager." We aren't sure but waⁿdat might also have originated from "peninsula dwellers"

I could be wrong but the repairs look old , an not exactly professional. If not for the orange netting I would say it was probably done by the homeless people. Sort of a make do with what you got kind of thing.

@RhettyforHistory

4 жыл бұрын

I'm not sure when those were initiated but definitely no repairs done. I'm confident the Wyandot are responsible for the cemetery but I'm not sure what happened. Thank you for watching.

Sorry 123 years

You said 1830 - 1956? Are you sure it wasn't 1856?

@RhettyforHistory

4 жыл бұрын

I think you're correct on that date. I'm sorry about that.