Not to shill myself but the uncensored version is uploaded to the paid members on Patreon ( www.patreon.com/TheSpudHunter ). Will try to do more stuff like that when KZread get's all moody and age restricts content. Cheers for the support guys!

@BornToKill780

5 ай бұрын

No joke I would have broke everything I can c if I lost my kit like that

@TheSpudHunter

5 ай бұрын

Especially when you're trying to do the Demigod bs on Wizard hahaha, it's mind numbingly painful to lose the juice kits to that @@BornToKill780

@400racr

5 ай бұрын

you need to edit the link to remove the end paren @TheSpudHunter

@TheSpudHunter

5 ай бұрын

​@@400racrcheere

@senorcat7853

5 ай бұрын

If you’re looking for some new games, have you considered Hunt Showdown?

I paused the video every 5 mins to sit on the floor for 2 to have the real wizard experience

@ix905

5 ай бұрын

immersive AND lore friendly

@nathanscarlett4772

5 ай бұрын

This is exactly how it feels to play cleric as well 😮‍💨

@nathanscarlett4772

5 ай бұрын

@pureblood9477 great question. And I'm sure I'm other longer cmt got deleted on the same video. I'll have to check back later

@SMega

5 ай бұрын

@@nathanscarlett4772 i dont really play much but why does this also apply to cleric - i thought they didnt have meditate - or you mean using campfires?

@nathanscarlett4772

5 ай бұрын

@SMega you can use campfires, but again, it's still waiting and sitting on the ground to replenish your spells. Anyone can come up to you and bonk you on the head, lol

They could just have spells recharge constantly (but very slowly) as you’re running around, then have it boosted when by a campfire or resting

@adrianoss.bougas3720

5 ай бұрын

or...they could have spells only recharge from campfires like the past, but still keep them powerful like before and stop arcade-ing the game with classes like the warlock

@Murasame13

5 ай бұрын

@@adrianoss.bougas3720 Warlock is ridiculous right now lmao

@hewas9738

5 ай бұрын

Maybe have it so meditate dosnt make you sit down? You can still walk, but not attack or cast spells

@cesars7281

5 ай бұрын

Or just add cooldowns to the abilities and no recharge crap. That would require a complete rebalance though.

@Murasame13

5 ай бұрын

@@cesars7281 A lot of shit fundamentally needs to change from the ground up. Invis mechanics, spell casters in general, barbarian-ranger multiclass with throwing axes, fighter ranger multiclass with crossbow and throwing axes, the list goes on and on.

Trying to get through exemplar to demigod has been the video game equivalent of stapeling my ballsack to my thigh and trying to hop around while being chased around by big hairy men yelling at you

@MrPhillish

5 ай бұрын

you're a poet thank you

@JohnSmith-j7n

5 ай бұрын

When the hairy men catch you do they kill you or fuck you? Both?

@stankobarabata2406

Күн бұрын

What's wrong with big hairy men chasing and yelling at me? You tryna kink shame me or something?

Give barb a stamina bar that drains with each swing or thrown weapon and when it runs out you have to sit down for 10mins before you can attack again haha

@ix905

5 ай бұрын

peak barbarian gameplay that would be funny, suck it and meditate to get your throwing axes back

@seraphcreed840

5 ай бұрын

Haha that would be great. The true barbarian experience , you have to drink a whole beer before you can fight again

Teaming in solos has been an issue for a while, but lately it's been a nightmare. EVERY solo lobby it's 8 timmies all trying to get "Highly ranked" by playing trinket simulator and portal opener. Bridge on ruins is now a chat room.

@user-iv5yk4nr4q

5 ай бұрын

And if you make the mistake of bringing any good gear in you get hunted down by a pack of wolves the entire match

@hobosnake1

5 ай бұрын

​@@user-iv5yk4nr4qall teaming should be bannable. At most it should be allowed to have a pact not to kill eachother, but not help eachother either. 4v2s are lame. 5v1 is lame. That shit all sucks.

@StoutKen

5 ай бұрын

Ugh yeah the VoIP initiated 4v2's are cringe. "Hey there's this other squad over there, want to come kill them with us and split loot". Yeah the VoIP didn't happen in the pregame lobby, but how is that any better

@SomeBody-kn9wt

5 ай бұрын

@@StoutKen yea... pregame lobby is a desolate wasteland populated by tumble weeds and the ingame voip is somehow even worse

@tylerrossman6116

5 ай бұрын

i mean it’s a dungeon looter. by all means necessary get out alive with the best loot. make pact. loot kill backstab its all on the table

The N.A. severs also rubberband like this. It's awful that the servers seemed better in the tests than with these diminished player counts.

@jessehunt154

5 ай бұрын

Playtests were on steam servers.

@felipetomaz1087

4 ай бұрын

Only a coyolet​@@jessehunt154

Well actually spuddy what you need to do is log off the game, apply to work at Ironmace, get hired, fix all of Dark and Darker’s problems, be hailed as the games savior, rise through the ranks and become future CEO, make connections with other development studios to promote the game and make millions in revenue, find a lovely lass to make your wife, start a family, invest in real estate, grow old, and pass away peacefully surrounded by your loved ones. Only THEN will wizard class receive passive spell regen or a mana based system.

@TheSpudHunter

5 ай бұрын

XD

preach spud. the sad truth is most players in COMPETITIVE PVP games will take the path of least resisitance for most reward. in overwatch recently there was a tank (same thing as bard) with the best healing, dmg, and tanking presence, and instead of self moderating people just abused it since the devs took forever, month and a half, to fix. most barbs just want to win and will bandwagon to the next META

@Rizzerio1

5 ай бұрын

The issue is the meta is too suffocating for the relativeness of the other classes. All of it stems from poor design/tuning. Then because of this issue, the devs have to split their focus between balance and content in order to keep their playerbase from crumbling. It's almost like these tuning patches are doing more harm than good by frustrating the player base with constantly upgrading/downgrading viability of classes within systems that hard lock questing/stash space/economy progress to each individual class and not the account. I don't want to hear, "it's beta" anymore because I didn't pay to perma test the game for all eternity. This product is substantially different than what we had in the play tests, so this is upsetting to have such drastic directional changes after having paid for the product. Anyone who doesn't think Dark and Darker is self sabotaging it's own success, albeit they put in a lot of effort, it's not working and the growth/popularity/hype have all halted to a crawl.

@Murasame13

5 ай бұрын

@@Rizzerio1 This.

@ryanscott2745

5 ай бұрын

You can't depend on the community for balance. I quit playing Overwatch when Mauga came out. It's a pretty bad game now anyways lol.

@jollygrapefruit786

5 ай бұрын

Overwatch is a hentai game who tf cares about balance lol

Started the wipe on Wiz and mained it. Did the quests and got the character stacked. Once they nerfed it and I played it for a couple days after I quit. Havent touched the game since.

@Rizzerio1

5 ай бұрын

same thing happens to the players of all the other classes that go through these cycles. They main 1 class, it becomes unviable, then they don't come back. The only people left playing are the fotm rerollers who will meta pile till every lobby is 100% one singular class.

Rework meditate to be a skill that gives you spells as you move. Then rework resting for spells by making the spell in hand while resting have 3x the normal rate recovery rate.

@NobleNemesis

5 ай бұрын

This sounds ideal- you could still jingle with the Meditation sound to make it detectable

@beh256

5 ай бұрын

Like that's amazing and all but you only have now 5 spells and that's a massive cut nomather the pay off

@ToobRust

5 ай бұрын

And while your recovering spells you're locked from casting

@TheShizzlemop

5 ай бұрын

they already did that, sitting gives like 2x the regen it used to. the way spells are balanced is you need a campfire to regen them if they're above T1-T2 spells. high tier spells take FOREVER to regenerate, when i play wizard i just play for fun and do fire dagger with shield skill. the issue is that high tier spells take TOO LONG to recover, not that the regen is too slow t1 and t2 spells are basically instant recovery, its like 3-4 seconds of sitting. for a zap. im pretty sure ur abvel to recover all 5 zap before getting ur second fireball back. it makes no sense, its ridiculous, the high tier spells need to recover faster. thats all there's no point trying to spend 10k gold on a kit only to be 2shot by a ranger. or ran at and 2-3 shot by a barbarian who never even attempted to melee me and just threw 8 axes at my spine or have to wait 3 minutes placing a campfire and sitting before i can play the game again. i just run fire daggers with ball and use zap/icebolt as my only other damage spells + the shield skill, no meditate. i live or die by the blade.

@SusDND

5 ай бұрын

@@TheShizzlemop I was saying that with the rest spell recovery buff hotfix in mind. Which if it was doubled after the hotfix then what I said would make the recovery 6 times greater than before the spell recovery update. My idea was that if you have a spell, like fireball or lightning strike, equipped in your hand while resting that spell would be focused by 3 times the current recovery rate. Therefore, you can focus the higher tier spells that take longer to recover and reduce downtime.

Dark and Darker has the same issues a lot of "indie game with pvp" titles have where they are seemingly balanced in a non-competitive way but eventually the game dies because people optimise the fun out of the game. This has happened to SO MANY of these types of games it's insane. Deceive Inc. was one of the most recent ones in memory for me where at first the game is really fun but then there were like two agents that started dominating because they had abilities that were so valuable on top of people teaming. If your game is going to have PvP elements you CANNOT expect people to simply "have fun" with it. You need to imagine the worst possible way someone will use and abuse your systems when you make them and create measures against that.

@servit0r

5 ай бұрын

Yet this amounts to work and if I just want to sell something I'd propably won't do it.

@brianestepa2376

5 ай бұрын

This game is literally a hardcore extraction game. It's like Tarkov. It isn't "non-competitive." It is meant to be hardcore and sweaty. Thats the fuckin point

@joshuawadsworth6417

5 ай бұрын

​@@brianestepa2376 "sweaty" and "fun" aren't mutually exclusive.

@brianestepa2376

5 ай бұрын

@@joshuawadsworth6417 what exactly is your point? The game is fun because it is a hardcore extraction game. Point blank period. Tarkov has a cult following for the same exact reason.

@alb1reo

5 ай бұрын

Imo Dark and Darker is unbalanceable. Every class is too different. It's more fun this way, but if every class was melee, just like how every class is ranged in Tarkov, maybe then you could balance it.

As a wizard main i've said soooo many times to my friends the same thing. They should just delete the class bc how weak it feels. It felt pretty good seeing you feel the same way and said the same thing. Kindred spirt

@danielvulic6612

5 ай бұрын

It’s just badly balanced, top tier wiz is a death machine while no gear wiz feels like a water gun. They need to drop off gear hard and buff the class overall

@IndicatedGoodLife

5 ай бұрын

Just remove every class and only keep Barbarian.

@nathanscarlett4772

5 ай бұрын

​@IndicatedGoodLife who hurt you?

@IndicatedGoodLife

5 ай бұрын

@@nathanscarlett4772 Fine, Wiz can stay aswell. There always need to be the hunted aswell.

@nathanscarlett4772

5 ай бұрын

@@IndicatedGoodLife you wanna play the game where it's just a barb fuck fest eh? 🤔

When you think of a longbow in the context of a wizard spell. It's got - virtually unlimited use - easier to hit (than ice bolt or fireball for example) - high damage - fast cast time - can cast in the dark without alerting the enemy player - huge range. If I were to try to snipe with a fireball the enemy would easily dodge it. It's honestly dumb. And I don't even want them to focus on class balance because I know it'll be 20 more updates turning all these knobs way up and way down without addressing actual issues. And we won't get any new content.

If they cap the throwing axes 1 guy can bring in, I can already see trios bringing in extra axes to give to their barb in raid lol.

@BornToKill780

5 ай бұрын

No one uses barb in trios.

@Jungus1999

5 ай бұрын

Bro Barb, especially Throwing Axe Spam Barb, is a Solo-Exclusive problem.

@thejutopian6347

5 ай бұрын

​@@BornToKill780 That's untrue. Almost every RMT team has a barb. Almost every second Lobby has RMTers.

@BornToKill780

5 ай бұрын

@@thejutopian6347 I've yet to c any of them. Mayb cause I'm east or playbrazil

@Toothydeere

5 ай бұрын

@@thejutopian6347that’s crazy bc I’m exemplar see legit no barbarian players in trios bc Fighter is just better in every regard as a tank and melee DPS, plus better ranged options and instant 40% HP.

I. FEEL. SEEN. Thank you for the validation in the pain 😂 This was the perfect laugh to end a long week! One of the fixes i think they need to address is the fact that Barbarian doesnt lose anything for raging down a magic class. He loses PDR to make up for the speed and damage... but against cleric, warlock, rogue, and wizard, woth soon druid... he loses nothing. No punishment. If they added a -20% mr on shout like pdr it could make it an approachable start to a healthy balance! What do ya think? Always value your opinion :)

@TheSpudHunter

5 ай бұрын

Love your stuff dude, honestly, anything will help at this point. The biggest issue is you get run down like a dog as wizard. Maybe up the speed of him. All the tanks have speed burst. Haste cast isn't the same in reality.

It had to be said, if the strongest, tankiest classes in your game are ALSO the fastest, your game sucks, and it's not up for debate. The jury is not out on this. Remember when we took invis and haste away because of what barb could do with them? I'm starting to think wiz wasn't the problem, lol. The class balance issue is deeply embedded in the games identity at this point, Fighter was 50%+ of the playerbase and wiz was under 5% and we let cries about how wizard was op dominate the discussion. Just because he was actually killing plate fighters as quickly as plate fighters kill everyone else.. when he's supposed to be a *gLaSs CaNnOn* to begin with, its just sad.

@firesupotree

5 ай бұрын

Then again, what can you expect when people like this are platformed leaders in the community, and allowed to run private trading servers while simultaneously being a Senior Warden in the official Ironmace Discord: www.twitch.tv/martydad/clip/ApatheticArbitraryRutabagaDuDudu-Sm1K3yeZtM9dqbmz This cancer runs deep, and its just gonna keep getting worse if we refuse to excise it. I remember when hotfix #15 got reverted in under 12hrs because these people passed around a petition to literally quit the game because they called it boring.. I still don't see spuddy doing that, for all the shit he gets about his opinions.

Hilarious man and spot on. Also as a NA West player can confirm we get the lag spikes like that as well, and I have also lost kits the same way. Good points overall though and I agree with them. Hope to see IM fix these issues at some point moving forward.

We really need a mana system for spell casters… I feel like it would improve the gameplay in a lot of aspects

@IndicatedGoodLife

5 ай бұрын

Yea, so you can sit down to refill your mana instead 🤡

@rzepakd1715

5 ай бұрын

for sure no

@nydak522

5 ай бұрын

@@IndicatedGoodLife no… have you ever played league? Just be mindful of the spells your casting and how much mama you have and boom

@nicholaswhelihan1968

5 ай бұрын

​@@IndicatedGoodLifeyeah, cause not like effectively every game with mana mechanic have a Regen in and out of combat.

@L0wSkiller

5 ай бұрын

@@IndicatedGoodLife it would be better than sitting down every 3 magic missiles 😅 even if they each had stacks/cool downs, like you can hold 3, but you Regen 1 every x seconds. It just sucks that MM was nerfed to the point where if you aren't kitted you can't kill at most 2 of the weaker mobs before needing to sit down. I'd much rather be able to walk around and at least smack pots/boxes 😂

You know I really wish this game had 2 separate modes, a PVE mode and a PvPvE or PvP mode. It seems like both sides of the player base are pretty frustrated or bored with the game. PvE feels stale and repetitive and PvP is never ever balanced. I would fucking kill for a PvE coop adventure mode version of this game but I know PvP would never be able to be balanced with mechanics like that in the game and I still want to PvP from time to time. This game is trying to accomplish too much all in the same mode/game. PvP killing off the PvE player base and PvE annoying and frustrating the PvP playerbase with "teaming" and non lethal lobbies. Ironmace needs to figure something out and I honest to god hope it isnt turning this game into a PvP battle royal because im tired of the battle royal genre.

@Phazon_Storm

5 ай бұрын

Honestly making an SPdarkov style mode for PvE only would solve it for me. they don't have to change a thing, I'd just like a segregated mode to play by myself or with friends. would it be jank and feel a bit shallow? absolutely. but it would be a nice pallet cleanser and a way to explore more of the game like class and skill combos no one would ever use otherwise. development wise it might provide some interesting data. It's a stretch but I hope something like this is on the table at some point, because the worse the PvP balance gets the more people seem to want a mode like this.

the armor use to look different based on the tier. did they change that?

Preach brother. You speak for us all. Something you said a while back really resonated with me. It's that wizard is the most rewarding to play because of the way you can interact with your environment. I used to be exclusively ranger, but just got flat out bored of it. So, I picked up wizard. Right around the time MM was nerfed into the ground. Even through these hard times, with solo wiz being a meme and the barb issue, I'm still having more fun. The day will come when solo wiz will be on equal footing with these other classes, and by grinding through these tough times, while wiz is down bad, we will be made better players for it. Much love, keep up the awesome content!

@-Medley-

5 ай бұрын

doesn't speak for me

@RealSweatyGamer

5 ай бұрын

@@-Medley- Then you must have terrible views on this game brother

They should lower the damage of thrown weapons and make them unaffected by stats

@hobosnake1

5 ай бұрын

Also they should nerf the slow on throwing axes. Some people will just throw 10 at you. Yeah only 3 might hit, but thats a lot.

@L0wSkiller

5 ай бұрын

​@@hobosnake1the real kicker is they picked up the 7 they missed so they aren't punished in the slightest 😅

@Everliving69

5 ай бұрын

WHAT ELSE IS A BARB SUPPOSED TO DO?? EVERY CLASS HAS RANGED BUT BARB THEY NEED TO BE ABLE TO BRING IN 10 STACKS OF AXES TO EVEN HAVE A CHANCE OF KILLING RANGER, ROUGE AND WIZARD

@RuckFussia

5 ай бұрын

​@@Everliving69 You are not supposed to be able to kill every class. The game is balanced for trios, not solo. Do you think it's just a coincidence that lobbies are full of barbarians?

@jirilaska9788

5 ай бұрын

Nobody is serously playing barb in trios@@RuckFussia

I think a good way to make wizard feel a bit more better in general if that everytime you sit down the meditation effect just happens. So you get your abilities quickly back. When i start a new wizard and use meditation get a bit of true/added magical dmg + staff i am just killing rooms super fast with my abilities then meditate and you can go to the next room in a short time.

the damage numbers idea goes insanely hard and i cant believe i havent thought of that yet, also spent a considerable amount of time getting flamed on the discord today for the “sitting is bad” take but it genuinely does need to change

Idk I’ve always found move speed being so easily build on barbs more of the issue as opposed to the axes I die more times to a barb who was able to keep up with me bc he built an agi barb

Comment to support re-upload and Spuddy ❤

@TheSpudHunter

5 ай бұрын

Cheers brudda

What if Wizard had a perk where they restore spells based on your spell recovery per melee hit?

would it be a good change to: give wizard autorecovery outside of combat make sitting even faster meditation fully recharges everything not matter how many spells were used ?

I am so happy this guy makes Dark and Darker content. Thanks for providing for the community and being passionate with your work. Continue to do it 🔫

Amazing content, I really enjoyed that! Keep going! Hopefully the gameplay will improve soon

A cool thing could be a spell that is a magical mini game like unlocking that could be "mana crystal invocation" and it would be the lockpick variant game with a magic runic skin and it would go fast with several colored areas and depending on the final grade that you have you would get a small/good/high tier spell recovery

i think they need to remove the whole rock paper scissors matchup gameplay

I want damage numbers too but my biggest reason is I want to know when my hits don't register, like when ur in the lobby and u swing at the dummy and sometimes the hits on the dummy don't register and u don't get numbers, who knows how often that happens mid fight And information is always good, more information leads to more skill expression, I also want sound queues for when u hit head vs body vs limbs The headshot sound could be really satisfying, and getting a bunch of limb sounds tells the player they need to aim better and could help players immediately understand why they lost and how to improve "man I hit arm 4 times and he hit head twice and body once, I gotta stop panicking and aim better" more info more skill expression

@ix905

5 ай бұрын

It would be nice to get to see the log when you die so you can spot hacks and the like better, a la tarkov damage reports

@Rizzerio1

5 ай бұрын

One of the complaints I heard that was anti dmg number was that ranged dmg will just scan rooms to proc hit numbers and that not having them leads to less information that players can capitalize on. So if your sitting in the dark and a ranger is just spamming arrows into it, he'd never know if you were there or if he was hitting you, but if he had numbers to work off of, it certainly would change the dynamics of how people play.

@RuckFussia

5 ай бұрын

@@Rizzerio1 You can hear the arrows hit and see a blood splash, that reason makes no sense. It's very easy to tell when an arrow is hitting the environment and when it's not.

@ret7502

5 ай бұрын

@@Rizzerio1 I think that's an incredibly dumb argument, the fact that someone actually thinks that's going to be a viable strat depresses me, someone's really going to shoot dozens of arrows slightly moving each arrow to fully scan every dark corner in every single room instead of, idk, throw one torch

@Rizzerio1

5 ай бұрын

@@ret7502 or aoe spells around corners, etc. It would change the way people play for sure if they know they are getting hits off.

hope you keep spitting king, i do not have the patience to suffer through the game anymore hopefully changes are on the way

the issue i have is that everytime i have a driver install or windows update i guarantee will crash 2 times before a 3 minute grace period

Honestly I wish they just used a mana and cooldown system like EVERY OTHER GAME WITH MAGIC/WIZARDS. Its already a tried and true system and tweaking mana regen, mana capacity, spell mana cost, spell cooldown and the actual spells themselves is a lot easier than the way they're currently doing it.

@TheSpudHunter

5 ай бұрын

Make it happen Ironmace

@hobosnake1

5 ай бұрын

Id love it.

@Crimefridge

5 ай бұрын

@@TheSpudHunter Greed is Good's mana system felt way better to deal with, yep.

@sekotsandbocaj

5 ай бұрын

I like the resting mechanic more unique and time restricted. I wish they just made arrows and stamina instead for range and melee classes. Wizards spells are so strong though. Up resourcefulness for wizards so they can campfire more quickly and not always resort to fireballing doors everytime

@DunkSkunk

5 ай бұрын

​@@TheSpudHunterfar more appealing than sitting for fucking charges, no lie. Or just meleeing every mob because you have charges you want to save.

Haven't played in months. Don't really see myself coming back, which is sad. Thanks for sharing your opinion on the issues of the game.

@SomeBody-kn9wt

5 ай бұрын

same... held the line for two years and recently i cant even bring myself to play the game without a wave of sadness and disgust

@firesupotree

5 ай бұрын

You, and most of the original content creators that put this game on in the first place! The community has been astroturfed hard.

really awesome video man! was wondering what was happening to the game lately havent been hearing about it at all

Love your videos, would watch you play/make videos for other games as well!!

@TheSpudHunter

5 ай бұрын

Cheers, I gotta work out what to focus on

An absolute banger video! There has yet to be a single DnD video by you that has left me dissapointed. Good balance of comedy mixed with great opinions that are based on first hand experience.

@TheSpudHunter

5 ай бұрын

I was pretty heated this one, was a struggle to try and make it funny at times. Glad you enjoyed it :)

@SomeBody-kn9wt

5 ай бұрын

@@TheSpudHunter i feel like this is one of your best videos on this game because you care and want this game to improve... two years of holding the line is tough! but i believe in ironmace and i hope this game doesnt end up like the cycle :( 900hours in the cycle frontier man i miss that game

I feel like wizard is to reliant on mid range forcing you into fights that you dont wanna be in. If there where more long range options franny barbs wouldnt be that much of a problem. In genreal wizard has to fight within range where he isnt safe and ever since the invis and haste nerfs that just isnt viable.

@Smuggumery

5 ай бұрын

It’s a mid to long range utility character based on playing in a team. If you keep asking them to “fix” it it’s gonna fuck the balance of the rest of the game and actually ruin it.

the dmg on the dummys at 12:26 is bugged you can be a full kit barb and still only hit like 15 or 20 on it i think it just has really high PDR and MR

Love these videos, absolutely hilarious. Sorry you have to deal with that. I play off and on... waiting for changes myself. When is this coming back to Steam? :< Cheers

We need clarity potions again.

My biggest gripe with the game is why the faq can fighter and barb have ranged? You've got a melee wrecking ball and a melee tank, both of which should be completely countered by range themselves. Yet someone thought it was a smart idea to give fighter bows and crossbows and let both classes stack more throwables than most classes have spells.

@9and12wholepizzas

5 ай бұрын

Have you ever even played barb? 80% of the time you are taking gear off running them down naked with a torch just to catch them

@koreyardoin3695

5 ай бұрын

@@9and12wholepizzas Yes I have. And you don't need to take anything off. What have you been playing?

@nathanscarlett4772

5 ай бұрын

​@koreyardoin3695, exactly this. Other guy, what are you smoking can I have some?

@9and12wholepizzas

5 ай бұрын

@@koreyardoin3695 I wear vigor gear not agi since I'm not a gay lord

@9and12wholepizzas

5 ай бұрын

@@nathanscarlett4772 w33d

what do you think about every class having a third active ability that you cant change. examples would be fighter has second wind base line, wizards get somthing to deal with the aids that is the meta or get meditate or even have all casters get spell memory base line and they cant ten spell, clerics get holy purification, warlocks get demon form, barbs get blood exchange. it would require a massive rebalence of alot of classes but i think its a smaller undertaking then trying to do multi classing and would be more fun/eaier to balence. i think having a base line third ability for each class would open up alot more build diversity and give combat a little more depth. alos more tools for solos

i usually lift weights or do push ups while i wait for meditate

i have a what you call a goon strat in solos of trapping where i think the last room of portals are going to be in ruins then i team with people let them get trapped and kill them best way of combatting teaming

Yeah keep basing all your beliefs playing solo only I didnt see you complain about ranger in his peak or 9g spellbook naked wizards rolling lobbies, why is that?

@TheSpudHunter

5 ай бұрын

Because I did on live stream. I don't document every thought and word on KZread.

@mikless6936

5 ай бұрын

@@TheSpudHunter then why do it now if this issue is as easy as a balance patch

@TheCosmicAstro-

5 ай бұрын

​@@mikless6936every issue is as easy as a patch that fixes said issue.... Thats how that works... The issue needs to be known by the devs. To be fixed. For the devs to know they either need to experience it or see people talking about it. What is spud doing? Talking about it. What a titan of intelligence you are man.

@zachseeman5235

5 ай бұрын

if it were as easy as a patch, why hasn't any meaningful change happened in the past 3? also, I noticed the lack of bard.

At first I really liked getting a bunch of ap with friendly lobbies, than a few days went by and I realized im not having fun with the game anymore. I tried doing pvp the next day and lost gear set after gear set to teams - and I just stopped playing entirely.

was anyone else really sad when the beat drop was cut off at 15:38 lol

why the game sucks... and its a 30 min video lmao.

@colezeller4861

5 ай бұрын

Yeah and? Like all games you start out loving it only for dev and community to ruin it

@jonchikponchik1717

5 ай бұрын

It's kind of like it's a well constructed video with a lot of different points

@k0lpA

5 ай бұрын

10 mins of sitting down though

In the ranged game I feel like bows crossbows and throwing weapons have such an advantage over spells: Generally a single click with no loud and bright charge up time, does more damage, unlimited use with no rest, unlimited range, travels faster, is harder to see and thus dodge or identify where the player is. I am pretty new to this game and I want to play casters but they feel so unwieldy. I felt like every fight I got in that if I tried to cast a spell I would simply be decaptitated in a single hit. The most luck I had was igniting my staff and going into melee and praying I killed them before they killed me which really doesn't feel very wizard-like. They really need some fast/instant cast spell system that includes more meaningful control. The duration on all control spells is incredibly short. And, landing spells is so tough with everyone just dodging constantly. Projectile Spells with a hitbox just clip the environment and hitscan spells feel like they never land when they should or have shit range.

For Wizards: i feel like you could make a cooldown mechanic where if you use lets say 1/5 of whatever spell, its the longest cooldown for one spell to comeback. and if you spam all 5 uses within a span of a brawl or fight, the cooldown is shortest and gradually lengthens with each spell coming back. originally had the idea backwards but tldr the cooldown is like that of any other characters skills but its on a gradual scale to prevent spam and let wizard move around.

There was a game I played where they had different pain grunts depending on how much health they had left, in increments of 25%. So if you heard the pain sound that they were 25% or lower, you knew you had a chance to finish them off with one more good hit. I think thats an idea they could implement without killing any immersion

@TheSpudHunter

5 ай бұрын

Quake

Some simple solutions: Add a magic recovery stat that gives you a very slow means of recovering spell slots as you move, and speeds up recovery during resting. Give the wizard two spells: Mage armor and Burning hands. Some THP at the cost of replacing one of your spells, and a shorter range but wider concentration spell to give MM some competition. Then you have burning hands be the higher damage of the two but shorter range while MM is slightly lower damage, perhaps just keep it at what it's at now, but increase the tracking on the missiles so it's more about accuracy and range. Alternatively, you can give burning hands a "shove" so the wizard has *literally anything* they can do against barbs.

The update is today "31" january

I know you think the rage is a bad look, but that is genuinely some of the most hilarious and relatable content I’ve seen on this game. I would legit just watch a compilation of you raging at the unfair bullshit in this game because anyone with eyes can see that it clearly. Is. Bullshit.

@TheSpudHunter

5 ай бұрын

Much love

Fantastic video dude, you had me in stitches once again 🤣

Your content is amazing , and matter in fact yeah me and my friends changed to game we mainly play from dark and darker to pal world damn

27:45 wait im in the video lol. i remember i just died to some lag bs and was watching your stream to see if it was the servers or my wifi and what d'you know

Finally. Someone, someone had to say it. Every point in this video, is pure gold. Ironmace needs to sit on the floor for a week in high roller getting 1 shot by default kits before touching code again

what if the meditate perk gave you 2 more spell slots on the wheel??

@ilovewizard

5 ай бұрын

not enough. cant kill a kitted barb with only 7 damage spells

Yea a lot of stuff needs to be fixed, but one way to get spells back if you got 10spells is camp fires but you still need to sit so not much better

Watching the lag portion never fails to give me the most rage filled anxiety... But I totally feel you Spuddy, I haven't really touched the game in 2-3 weeks. It feels really awkward I think is the word i'd describe it as? I keep trying to do my best to copium my way out of it but man. Theres something really off and the community isn't helping in the slightest bit. Somehow they enjoy this weird cuisine we're being offered and I just don't get it... Just the other day I tried to have discussions w/ people around the community about them adding slightly more complexity to the melee fighting to start. You know, make shield bash viable... make tumble worth a damn, maybe add kicking/shoving, more parry options than just one damn weapon that is mid to B tier as far as i'm concerned.. But no one wants that because it would be too similar to other medieval fighting games? I dont get it man, the devs really need to cook and not listen to the masses because what the masses want is spaghetti and hotdogs instead of evolving to spaghetti and meatballs. Fuck, I think my line broke. =(

I have been hard stuck at wanderer on my warlock for about a month, but got to wanderer in like 5 games on my barb and dont see that slowing down for me any time soon. Guess I will just go demi with my barb to get the cosmetics while things are the way they are right now i suppose.

0:56 You thought you could sneak a Command and Conquer '95 infantry scream in there and we wouldn't notice

@TheSpudHunter

Ай бұрын

:)

I tried to talk to the devs in the discord about teaming when the solo dungeon was released and people called me bad and said I had a skill issue, like I guess if I can't team with half the solo lobby yeah

Maybe an idea for Wizard could be that their one spell block (Q or E) has 10 spells, which would then allow you take meditate. Still have to sit on the floor a little, but it might help

The only thing that will balance wizard or the game in general is limiting the number of times you can deal ranged damage as any class. Ranged has to be deadly enough that you don't just get w keyed, but it can't be so oppressive and accessible that its the only viable option. Its not that hard, give ranged weapons limited ammo that recharges over time (3 axe charges that recharge one every 10 seconds). Give wizards strong spells with cooldowns instead of charges and change perks to specialize into certain spells. This allows them to be effective in PvE and PvP while still allowing counterplay. That would probably make cheesing PvE too easy but the cheesability of PvE is a whole different topic.

my suggestion for spell downtime: add a timer/cooldown between each cast, but give infinite amount of casts, rewarding the use of multiple different spells (maybe even a damage bonus for combining different types of magic damage) so no resting but like (just for example) you have to wait 3 seconds between every fireball cast

Wish there was a perk to speed up spell recovery

spell slot system is cool and unique, but while i wish i worked, its such a hard thing to tweak. at this point they need to make it a mana system

As a European server player I feel like we dont get that much lag but rubberband happens sometimes, often at the beginning of the match when you spawn and also sometimes when other players are getting closer to you (I feel like there is not much done to prevent players with different ping to desync everything)

you make a lot of good points :D but I don't use the book anymore for a lot of what you are talking about >.

17:07 I feel like the type of loot you find is different from person to person. When i am playing Bard, i can never find bard gear and all i find is wizard gear lol

I feel you spud as of recent I’ve uninstalled dark and darker because every time i play it I get bs’ed in some way that just ruins my night and I need a break hoping the big update is worth the reinstall

The lag has been exactly the same recently in the US servers. Lost a crazy bard kit because a Skelton archer shot at where I used to be until I died as I sat behind him and just watched him shoot a ghost.

We running it back again boys

I played wizard when game was on steam, i was nuts on it and teamplay it was pretty crazy engages but looking now it seems to be nerfed to the ground. btw tip i have more shield potions that heal potions, then i can play aggro as wizard

The spell thing seems like an easy fix to me, make meditation a channeling skill that takes like 10 or 15 seconds and gives you half or all of your skill charges back and add a percentile increase to the speed at which you gain them back while sitting and double speed at a campfire.

Yeah I would appreciate dmg numbers as wizzard. How many times I though someone is one hit and he ended up at 60% hp killing me.

haven't gotten a chance to watch the full vid but i remember on stream you saying you don't want barb nerfed, you want other classes brought up to that level. which i totally agree with! would love cleric to feel as scarry as a barb choo choo'ing through a door at someone lol. hope that sentiment remained in this video! i also find it funny how cleric remains largely undiscussed in the solo meta when it's in an even worse state than wizard in the current meta IF you don't camp dark swarm. if you just cheese in the swarm then cleric is great. but outside of the swarm, where potential PVP happens, absolute bottom of the barrel. worst ranged options in the game while also being one of, if not the, slowest class in the game. and nothing is more important in dark and darker than speed and ranged damage. currently on the leaderboard there are 37 demigod wizards, and 46 demigod clerics. the two lowest ranked classes on the solo HR leaderboards.

@firesupotree

5 ай бұрын

Idk, if everyone was brought up to barbs level the game would have very little gameplay or meaning. Whats wrong with a class having an actual weakness? The onetapping tanks with their flat ~50+ speed skills on a ~20s cooldown need to be nerfed for this game to survive.

I was preparing to watch this video much earlier... Well I guess the middle of the night will do 🙃

Totally feel you on this. I quit playing the game because they don't know how to balance anything and it's almost entirely based on your gear or class, not on skill. Which just isn't fun to me. When I was playing, every time they would come out with a good update or nerf certain stats in gear, certain streamers or people that are already rich in game would cry and they would revert the changes. The second time I saw that happen I was done with the game.

bro the lag at 28:20 is BRUTAL

what if they gave wizards a spell, like ice armour or something that temporarily buffs their PDR and maybe has some small sub effects like applying a minor (10%) slow or a half-second stun to enemies or it reflects a % of the damage back as magic damage if they get hit in melee. it might take a few tries to balance it by tweaking the memory cost, PDR amount, duration etc. you dont want it to be an automatic "I win" button vs melee but it should be tweaked so that its enough to stop them being 1 tapped by steam tank barbs all day long. or at least gives the mage a chance

I wanna see you play 10 spell warlock

There should be an automatic spell regen but if you want much faster regen you sit or if you want all your spells back your meditate for like 10-15 seconds.

I was complaining about resting since the first test and I'm just amazed what they did with the Wizard

There was a single patch during I think PT 5 where meditate was MUCH faster but gave less total spell regen. That felt way better.

"i dont not condone despawning yourself with your own forskin" not all content creators are willing to give such a powerful message to their audience. thank you, spud.

great vid man. touched on some very important game design flaws and issues. i hope ironhammer sees this, if for no other reason than saving your mental health

Good take on the game so far. I was interested in streaming this one, however things have CHANGED since bout like 6 months ago :o

They could make damage numbers an option you can turn on or off I would enjoy that feature.

i’ve always thought mages should have a mana pool to cast from and have potions that regenerate it, and maybe have it slowly regenerate over time or something

This is the first video I ever see from your channel it got randomly recommended and I was surprised to see such well editing done by a relatively low subscriber count channel, but I kinda expected to see a video explaining why the game sucks and not just a massive rant about wizards. When it comes to videos like these I usually even check ahead for the timestamps to see what will be covered and I thought hmm yeah a bunch of stuff will be covered but the majority of the time stamps are also just invalid because they are stamped as "Class balance" or "Rangers" when they are just wizard rants as well. Valid points were also sprinkled in between the massive wizard rants but why not just title it why wizard sucks or something? Just my opinion as somebody who has seen your videos for the first time ever

The after image change with invis was the nail in the coffin for me - that's wizard's only gap closing tool against rangers and now we get lit up in pretty lights saying "here we are, come shoot us !!! :)" probably the most unfun gameplay change they've ever done.

The only thing you see in solo que is Warriors with crossbow/ FRANCISCA AXE and second Barbs with FRANCISCA AXE . That's it,almost no other classes,rare ranger/rogue.