Corrections: It seems that VHS was forced to change their name due to them trying to trademark the term VHS. The Friday 13th lawsuit was even more complicated than what I said. Miller tried to use a copyright law to get his creations back and it was actually Cunningham who sued him to keep those rights. ➤ Twitch: www.twitch.tv/Liuss (Monday & Friday @ 7PM CT) ➤ Twitter: twitter.com/Liuss_Ink ➤ Insta: instagram.com/liuss_ink/ ➤ Discord Server: discord.com/invite/R8JHEq3 ➤ Main Channel: www.youtube.com/@Liuss

@WeirdWalrus-pk6wy

11 ай бұрын

VHS was a British company so they were forced to change the name

@marvik7437

11 ай бұрын

The funny thing is dbd had moments where it almost died sometimes the balance or the updates where so bad that it went from 400000 players to 27000 wich is a mad drop now its fixed itself mostly (except the DDoS problem thats still a problem after 3 years somehow

@Nocturne989

6 ай бұрын

@@WeirdWalrus-pk6wy It was likely less due to that and more due to the horror film anthology series VHS. Nobody is gonna get a video game and a totally unrelated company out of the country confused with regard to any trademarks. However, VHS, an older aesthetic horror film franchise and VHS, an older aesthetic horror game franchise is much more of a potential issue with the likelihood of consumer confusion.

@Gamerboi55511

3 ай бұрын

I think the reason why they failed was because dead by daylight didn't revolve around one horror icon killer or other killers from one horror franchise and original license survivors from that franchise dbd gets original or licensed characters and different and unique in own way

@mosshivenetwork117

2 ай бұрын

Don't trademark a VHS smh

I feel for the Friday team, they really couldn’t do anything about their situation and had to watch their game die. RIP Friday the 13th and the Jason X update💔[also Sean got the characters from the og movie and Miller got things from the sequels including hockey mask Jason]

@LiussDBD

11 ай бұрын

It really is unfortunate. They seemed really passionate about their work.

@theweeb9101

11 ай бұрын

I agree. Friday the 13th was doing pretty well up until that whole law suit that put everything on hold, by the time the lawsuit was over there would’ve been no point to push a update, half the player base left.

@FemboyKaiSaku

11 ай бұрын

@@theweeb9101he playerbase left because after all the copyright bs happened they had to change the servers and getting into a match sometimes literally took an hour on console at least. Most of the time you wouldn't get into a match thats why the playerbase left. Even when there wasnt updates i was still really enjoying the game. Sad what happened

@MomJeans1738

11 ай бұрын

​@@FemboyKaiSakuI've never had to wait more than a few minutes to find a match in Friday the 13th on console. Try matchmaking during weekday evenings. The playercount tends to peak around that time

@FemboyKaiSaku

11 ай бұрын

@@MomJeans1738 when i say i literally had times when i waited a whole hour i am completely serious, this was a few years ago so maybe its better now. But i just remember i would just walk away from the screen most of the time instead of sitting and waiting for the matchmaking, it was crazy long. So i just gave up on waiting luv the name bro 👀

I personally think f13 was one of the closest to having competition with dbd because of its popularity and how fun it was. It probably would still be popular if the lawsuit had not killed the game. I hope tcm accomplishes what f13 couldn't.

@nicknamed1267

11 ай бұрын

Even now, its still got a fairly decent player base. I feel like it would have been up there with DBD had the lawsuit not shot its legs out so early.

@ThePolishman87

11 ай бұрын

It would of won over dbd. Good thing there makeing a new one

@DeputyFish

11 ай бұрын

game wasnt popular though? it never hit more than 5k. thats the highest it hit. dont get me wrong game was fun. but it was never really popular

@ThePolishman87

11 ай бұрын

@@DeputyFish dbd wasn't super popular when it first came out either. I played f13 for a long time before dbd. The lawsuit with word of mouth was why it wasn't popular. The game didn't even make it a year before that happened

@DeputyFish

11 ай бұрын

@@ThePolishman87 dbd day one on steam had over 10k active 20k peak. thats already double the highest friday got.

What I enjoyed the most about F13 was how it never felt as sweaty as DbD. While you could always work together to escape from Jason, there was always that creeping reminder that there were only 4 seats in the car, and you knew 5 people were helping to repair it. It also made it more fun to play as Jason because you knew the moment you showed up, all chaos would break loose for the campers.

@HotDogSkins

11 ай бұрын

Oh, during the games peak (before the grab was changed) I was a god as Jason, literally untouchable. You try to stun me? I block the attack on contact so fast that the animation doesn’t even play, but they kinda needed superblocking, but I’m still decent as Jason now, but nowhere near and godtier when I was 12💀

@rustyspoonzzz

11 ай бұрын

Totally agree. F13 was just a fun time, DBD is a toxic sweat-fest. Fingers crossed for TCM

@SgtTankDempsey

11 ай бұрын

Also Proximity chat made it even more fun

@georgerockwell6124

11 ай бұрын

Nah I feel like competition in the horror game space would just result in exclusive contracts and IP's being locked away; like how it is in the Streaming industry or gaming industry.

@soulbounddoll1826

11 ай бұрын

F13 was the peak of the genre.

Everything about the Friday the 13th game makes me so sad because it was such a passionate team of developers that had a true love for Friday, and they got shut down by a situation completely out of their hands. I’m grateful I got to play in it’s hay day. So many awesome memories. hopefully someday they can make a sequel or some kind of follow up to this game, but I’m doubtful. RIP

@bazcrowther8205

4 ай бұрын

It will be be like titanfall 1 and 2 did, that was respawns flagship game and EA fucked them.over by releasing it in between cod n battlefield not once but twice, so titanfall was a AAA never to be, titanfall fans want titanfall 3 but its highly unlikely when apex makes quadruple the money titanfall 1 and 2 ever did combined, plus in essence titanfall 3 is out in the form of apex just without the titans

@johnramos8703

3 ай бұрын

@@bazcrowther8205dont you dare say apex has the essence of titanfall, skirmish sint present in any way shape or form in apex, theres no -v-very and most importantly for something to have the essence of TITANfall perhaps the lack of titans matter

@irisstarsterio8960

2 ай бұрын

@@johnramos8703 apex is literally made by the same people and has very similar gamefeel. It's obviously not the same at all, but saying that Apex doesn't have the essence of Titanfall at all is just delusional. It being both a Battle Royale and Class Shooter just obviously make the game way different.

@bazcrowther8205

2 ай бұрын

@irisstarsterio8960 thank you, you knew where I was going with it mate

F13 The Game is so tragic, it was an extremely popular game that was keeping up with DBD and was an amazing source of competition/friendly rivalry. They were able to do so well even when DBD was getting more licensed killers like Myers, Bubba, and Krueger, and they were able to fight them with the entirety of the Jason Voorhees IP. It's so sad how the lawsuit not only ruined any chance of the playerbase at that time to get Jason X or any new major updates, but it also killed any possibility of getting a new movie, which is so unfair as Chucky, Myers, Ghostface, and Bubba all got new installments, with the only two big guns being left out were Jason and Freddy. Not only was the movie IP essentially dead, they also killed off the game's community, and it's sad because I was actively in the F13 and DBD communities at the time, and just imagining the devs having to watch their game die is so sad and unfair, as it wasn't their fault that it died, but two men who couldn't agree on what was theirs or not.

@nana-cr1vc

11 ай бұрын

It's so sad to see two big icons of the horror genre (Jason and Freddy) lose at this pop culture battle. Myers got two new hit movies, Ghostface got two new hit movies, Bubba is getting a super hyped game, Chucky has a stable tv show, and Jason is at least rumored to be getting a Camp Lake tv show, but where does that leaves Freddy? He was one of the big 3 back in the day with Myers and Jason, and now it's true to say he's the most left out in the teenagers demographic, who are the ones who are consuming this content more.

@Rascal1214

11 ай бұрын

@@nana-cr1vc I 100% agree, while Jason is at least rumored to be getting a show (and he had a successful game), Freddy hasn't had shit since the reboot and, well, that was complete ass imo. I also just remembered that Bubba has had 5 movies since 2000, Candyman got a sequel, Pinhead got so many shitty sequels and then a decent reboot, so the only "Major" slasher icon that hasn't gotten a new movie/game is Freddy, which is incredibly unfair to Wes Craven, as the last movie that his character was in was so horrible and nothing like his original character.

@Zapatozi

11 ай бұрын

Still to this day, I'm on F13 game (PS5).

Came for DBD, stayed for the commentary on monopolization of the internet service industry

@JordanPlayz158

11 ай бұрын

The price is bad in US but I am more annoyed by the lack of fiber, if fiber was commonplace everywhere at the pricepoint ISPs in the US charge, I could somewhat argue it is justified, but we are STILL using coaxial in most areas or worse

@FormulePoeme807

10 ай бұрын

​@@JordanPlayz158i don't know the exact details, but in France there's a tale of us, having basically the same shit happen with Orange owning all the copper wire Then Free came with their fat balls and provided decent service for a low price, which forced the assholes to lower price, it's so funny because Free CEO himself taunt other ISP for that

@JordanPlayz158

10 ай бұрын

@@FormulePoeme807 That sounds like the best thing to do, you just need someone with enough money that wants to make things better for other people

@crowchant9917

8 ай бұрын

Amen. It's fkn criminal

@JuanAntonioGarciaHeredia

3 ай бұрын

​@@FormulePoeme807Same here in Spain but with Telefónica (Movistar). AHHHHH I LOVE WHEN COMPANIES AND GOVERNMENTS AGREE WITH EACH OTHER TO CREATE THE MOST ABERRANT MONOPOLISTIC HELL

I agree, BHVR should make a chapter named “The Metamorphosis” or “The Evolution” and have it be a maintenance/rework focused.

@yamiyo_

11 ай бұрын

i lost all faith in an y game doing that, always ends up as one of the worst points for that game

@rat9567

10 ай бұрын

That would been really cool too see and definitely make it more bearable. They could even work it into the story with the Entity evolving it’s trials.

@zaer-ezart

9 ай бұрын

Metamorphosis.... Oh god... Not again.... The memories.... Noooo

@Wolf-oc6tx

7 ай бұрын

@@zaer-ezart There are to messed up stories you could be referring to(one a Kalfka story another a NSFW manga) and both of them are super messed up.

@futotesan

6 ай бұрын

Maybe something more like "Campfire Tending" chapters. These chapters could deal mostly with balancing and cleaning/tightening up the shops and bloated item pools. This could also tie in with lore. The Entity as it is now seems much greater than it may have one point been. The Entity at it's core seems to be negative emotion, darkness, chaos incarnate. At some point, I'd wager The Entity gained the ability to feed on positive emotions such as hope from a being that it was once very similar to. This broken Anti-Entity (for lack of a better term) is likely stuck in service of The Entity because it can no longer feed on it's own and is probably responsible for bringing back those killed in the trials. The campfires literally the last physical manifestation of this broken, subdued Entity and is metaphorically fed by the survivors while literally being drip fed by The Entity. This could also explain the void, a once lush bright realm now left as hollow as it's one time warden. The Entity would have no use for it's upkeep but would find the devastated realm a nice dumping ground for it's used up playthings.

DBD is literally the only game where I think a lot of the community doesn’t really want new content, but quality of life improvements and overall balancing updates

@pug-n

5 ай бұрын

*cough cough* TF2! *cough cough*

@vin8754

4 ай бұрын

@@pug-n na, tf2 has been literally begging for the heavy update for years now

@pug-n

4 ай бұрын

@@vin8754 yes, true. but i feel like fixing alot of the games problems (balancing, bots etc.) would be better for the games health and woulnt drive new players away.

@nataliaborys1554

4 ай бұрын

​@@vin8754 I'd come back to tf2 if they actually fixed the bot issue. Oh, and unmuted f2p players, because, trust me, you only notice how much you use voice commands when they're taken away, and it feels extremely alienating. I don't care about getting a Heavy Update, although it would be amazing if it happened, I just want it to be playable, man.

@connorboyle2585

4 ай бұрын

TF2 has been begging for anything worthwhile for literal years Warframe players fought with the old Creative Director for the game's entire lifespan for balance, fixes, QoL, you name it. Only changed recently when he moved to another project and they promoted the old Community Director to the role. (We went from someone we generally liked but disagreed with the player base on a fundamental level about much of the game, especially QoL, to probably the most beloved figure in the community who wanted a lot of the same things we did. It's been a really good ~2 years.) Total War: Warhammer 3 has needed a bugfix and balance sweep for it's entire 2 year lifespan. (game 3 is a merger of the entire trilogy, there are a lot of issues that arose from porting the older content) Stellaris had massive QoL and balance issues before they literally brought in a second devteam to focus entirely on maintaining older content. Those are just the ones I'm personally familiar with. Unfortunately this is a very common issue for games that have this kind of content/update structure.

I think one thing DBD had going for it that other games in its genre don't is simplicity. Almost all the other games in this genre have either multiple win conditions or one win condition that is far more complex than DBD's. Meanwhile, Anyone can hop into Dead By Daylight, pick one of the base Killers or Survivors and instantly have their goal AND power communicated to them naturally. It's part of what makes the licensed chapters work so well, that any fan of the license will be able to get a cursory handle on the game and play their license without an hour of tutorials.

@taragnor

11 ай бұрын

Yep. It's the fact that the game is so simple to initially pick up. There's complexity layered on with each different killer having different powers, but the basic "do the gens, open the door" gameplay is something anyone can jump into. I watch the new Texas Chainsaw Massacre game and there's just so much to it. The gameplay itself seems overwhelming to pick up at first. If you don't have map knowledge you'd be utterly useless in that game. Even F13 as I recall had some weird mechanic where you had to either fix the phone box with a randomly hidden part, or you had to repair a car to drive away. It just ends up being excessive complexity. Where as most of DBD does all it can to show you what you should be doing. Gens make a lot of noise while being repaired drawing survivors and killers to them, hooked survivors show up on the survivor hud, so they know they can go help them. Killers always know where the gens are, etc. Even if it's your first time playing a map, you can pretty easily find something useful to do.

@Seoul_Soldier

11 ай бұрын

@@haiz768 "I love the lack of competition in this genre, it has totally made DBD a better game." Every time you comment its some stupid fucking shit like this.

@sillylilstella

11 ай бұрын

​@@haiz768competition is a good thing actually

@silentfanatic

11 ай бұрын

Absolutely agree. Long time players of DBD often ask for different objectives than just gens, but that same simplicity is what makes the game work so well. Friday the 13th and Texas Chainsaw overload you with too many options to ever be truly mainstream.

@JKC4o9

11 ай бұрын

@@haiz768end Dan didn’t listen to the video

VHS wasn't a rebrand it was a forced change because of the name VHS being unable to be trademarked. Not that important for the core message of the video but at the very least its a bit more context and I feel it highlights another stick on the pile of problems that VHS faced.

@dogd4ze

11 ай бұрын

Yes, and the fact VHS was hard to look up because you had the movies listed under that name, and the actual vhs players.

@quentin___smith

11 ай бұрын

i remember the VHS drama where the devs stole a skin designed and used it in the game and after missive backlash they had to refund the money used to buy the skin, give an apology and take the skin down lol. They need to do better.

@wig.snatcher

11 ай бұрын

@@quentin___smith they didn't steal it she sent it to them specifically to be made

@quentin___smith

11 ай бұрын

@@wig.snatcher then why did they apologize to the creator FOR STEALING the design? Bruh it's a fucking public apology and found the tweet incriminating VHS devs fir stealing the design.

@wig.snatcher

11 ай бұрын

@@quentin___smith because everyone jumped on them not even knowing what's happening lol???????? devs wanted to make a skin for her cause she was their partner, she sent them the design and left when it was already made so they just released it. im not saying what they did was right but thats definitely not what stealing is

VHS shutting down is an absolute tragedy Between the targeted DDoS attacks and the copyright issues surrounding the original name This game didn't get the chance it deserved

@mitchsz

3 ай бұрын

It was also their fault with the key distribution, making so many closed betas instead of open was a big oof

Evolve paved the way for DBD and deserves to be mentioned in conversation more, it was simply ahead of its time. Had Evolve been released at a lower price point, or gone with the current free-to-play model, I believe it would still be incredibly popular today.

@andmillions

11 ай бұрын

HELL no. Evolve got WAY to repetitive way too fast and was extremely unbalanced. Every single game played out nearly identical to the last. Monster gets obliterated or hunters get obliterated. And idk if u can even count Evolve as an asymmetrical game, as hunters had weapons and several abilities to fight back with.

@coltonwilkie241

11 ай бұрын

Evolve should be forgotten about. The "game" was nothing but a store page.

@andmillions

11 ай бұрын

@@coltonwilkie241 Should've called it Devolve

@unsuspiciousdweller8967

10 ай бұрын

@@andmillions ... Asymmetrical means uneven teams/sides, not that one side can't fight back. So yeah, it counts. And i'm with x17, Evolve walked so Dbd could run.

@andmillions

10 ай бұрын

@@unsuspiciousdweller8967 Still no. L4D walked so DBD could run. Nobody cared about Evolve after a month. Just because that game came out before DBD doesn't mean it had any impact or influence on asymmetrical games.

Seeing VHS die in real time was surreal, it was the first time I ever experienced a games downfall firsthand. That said moving to DBD showed me that ASYM's seem to have a cruel trend. The devs are slow to react to player complaints and seem to have an inflated ego.

@peregrinus524

11 ай бұрын

The problem is that player complaints for an asymmetric game are generally biased in some way, especially for DbD where at low skill levels one role thrives while at high levels the other does. People used to say old DH was balanced (“just wait it out”), or old pain res (every hook being gen regression was insane). They can really only listen to a couple people in the community or use their own data, which is also usually skewed.

@godfrey4461

11 ай бұрын

​@@peregrinus524pain res did not make every hook gen regression. The issue with pain res is actually an issue with the game itself. Map design. The issue was pain res hooks could spawn in a 3 gen and basically make breaking the 3 gen near impossible. By nerfing pain res they still haven't solved the issue, that being 3 gens are a tad too strong. As many killers can force it from the start of the match and use their power mixed with perks to hold the game hostage my literally refusing to chase off the gens.

@spookieboogi6161

11 ай бұрын

@@godfrey4461it’s trash now and I won’t use It id rather let a psycho Midge from borderlands use my baw bag as a training aid than use that garbage perk funny how survivors are literally easy mode I iri 1 every season as a survivor because it’s that easy but they constantly whine wanting more crap to hold their hands

@daylen9445

11 ай бұрын

​@@spookieboogi6161rank doesnt equal skill, never has. Only shows how much you play

@spookieboogi6161

11 ай бұрын

@@daylen9445 yeah it does you see an iri you take it seriously you don’t you’ll get looped got half your gens ranks means something you have to do and meet specific requirements in order to pip up just mucking about gets you no where

It always confuses me when some hardcore DBD fans complain about the coming Texas chainsaw massacre game. "They are copying usss!" or "Hah! DBD will kill it in no time" etc. LIKE DUDE! The competition is GOOD for you. Makes both sides work better and hard to keep u. Like dont u know what 'monopoly' can do?

@Seoul_Soldier

11 ай бұрын

Expecting DBD fans to be logical was your first mistake.

@horncrownedproductions9675

11 ай бұрын

You must be new to the toxic DBD fanbase

@snigdhodas5752

11 ай бұрын

DBD didn't kill any of it's rivals. They self-destructed themselves. DBD will also die if it kills itself otherwise they will go on like csgo or warcraft. But I think the copying part you just said is made up.

@GoldSpangledBananaBoy

11 ай бұрын

@@snigdhodas5752 I mean, Friday didn't really commit suicide. More... held down and forced to starve to death.

@Tahycoon

11 ай бұрын

What does "monopoly" do?

It makes me happy to see all the love Friday 13th still has. It really is a shame the lawsuit kinda clusterfucked everything. RIP

tcm is really enjoyable for me. im a huge fan of stealth, i remember how much i liked playing through thief and dishonored, those games have good stealth

I'm so sad that evil dead the game didn't get very far. It released on my birthday, I'm a huge evil dead fan and I was so excited. Unfortunately, there were many bugs and balancing issues, along with long periods of time with no content. It literally took months to get 1 new character and outfits. Aside from it's issues, evil dead was a very fun game, working together for the objectives and looking out for teammates who got possessed. It's a shame to see evil dead die out so quickly, but I had fun whenever I did play the game.

@sagexalcen4708

11 ай бұрын

One of the better things about it is Evil Dead, you actually HAVE to work as a team. You have little to no option. A lot of times in DBD you can get away with not.

@h7v779

11 ай бұрын

@@sagexalcen4708 exactly! If you decided to do the objectives alone, you were as good as dead

@jonestownkoolaid371

11 ай бұрын

They literally added new content every 3 months. Isn't that how dbd does it? Evil dead is only 14 months old and there have been 14 separate updates applied to it. Balance, bug fixes, and so on. Yeah it still has issue but so does every game like this and they always will. Dbd 7 years old and it's still has issues.

@h7v779

11 ай бұрын

@@jonestownkoolaid371 yeah, that is true, mate. But the developers gradually gave up on the game, and some DLCs were very underwhelming. Especially for demon players who had to go 6-7 months with no new demon. There's a youtuber called pixelz who does a better job explaining what happend to the game if you're interested, mate. I heard that the original sabre developers who worked on the game were moved off and were taken over by sabre US I believe. To put it briefly, the game might not get supported anymore.

@flavio1243

11 ай бұрын

@@sagexalcen4708 ​I disagree, since a hatchet escape while carrying key is the only truly hasslefree option to get away without needing your team, otherwise good luck escaping without cooperating with the other survivors.

He proposed a “wellness chapter” and reading through it I noticed he nerfed pig. 😂 only a true DBD player would understand

@devinandersen5572

17 күн бұрын

We noticed that Ghostface and wesker have had some pretty high win rates lately, so we decided to nerf pig

I loved Evil Dead the game. I put a ton of hours into it, and I wanna make three other points about what effected it for the long term. One was that there was a lack of content. There was a good chunk of time between when new things coming out, especially for Demon. The prices for everything were also really high- the Season Pass was 30 USD but barely had any content in it. There was also the issue of the progression system causing a huge disparity between players. The progression system meant that any new Demon or Survivor was bound to get rolled because they just couldn't keep up. There was also some issues with the meta being stale. Characters like Pablo or Amanda never quite found their footing, and characters like ED1 Ash were left in the dust while characters like Cheryl never saw competition.

R.I.P. to the og asymmetrical multiplayer game, Evolve. Gone but not forgotten.

@LiussDBD

11 ай бұрын

I haven't thought about Evolve in forever 😔

@lordzacarius642

19 күн бұрын

Evolve is such a nostalgic game for me, may it always rest in peace

The Friday game was very fun especially since i got to play during launch, the Proximity voice feature led to so many crazy ass moments. Really miss that game at its peak

I think Last Year: The Nightmare would have been a fairly good competition to dbd if the dev put a lot of work in it and they didn't get bankrupt.

Not even one mention about what happened to Deathgarden. It's history really paints a picture on why Dead By Daylight remains so successful. BHVR really did learn from their mistake.

I feel like Ash vs Evil Dead and Friday the 13th were never going to take over. VHS had a chance because it wasn't a specific brand and they could add a ton of different characters, but those DDoS attacks pretty much secured their fate. I think the same goes for the new TCM game aswell.

@Diphenhydra

11 ай бұрын

F13 was the only one that stood a chance because it’s the only one that released early enough. From what I remember playing it years ago, it was a genuinely fun game with a lot of different objectives. VHS never stood a chance because it was too late to take any players away. There’s too many characters, cosmetics, people have already sunken thousands of hours into DBD, and just hyping a game up to be a “blank killer” just means that it’s going to fail immediately. Not to mention, the people who are interested in this type of game already play it. It’s the Smash Bros effect, essentially. If you make a game for a demographic that already plays something similar, they likely won’t switch over.

@nathakevin012

11 ай бұрын

Bro f13 was the best competitor the game ever had. Dbd devs immediately started fixing things people were asking for, also they started giving some extra bloodpoints for login. After f13 died, dbd stopped doing those things for a long time… TCM looked awesome, and recently they showed the character progression. I really think it will be a hit

@mitchsz

3 ай бұрын

​@@nathakevin012it was not a hit, unfortunately 😢

@nathakevin012

3 ай бұрын

@@mitchsz i think it was. It REALLY was. Devs did the worst decisions to kill the game, And it still has 3K players. The game is refusing to die and i like that

@mitchsz

2 ай бұрын

@@nathakevin012 yeah their decisions are questionable, but I like the game still

I've been vouching for a "health" or "wellness" chapter for a long long time now. This video was a really good take on the current state of dbd and I hope we can make something happen soon.

wow, I had no idea VHS is shutting down completely. That really sucks. I feel bad for everyone who spent money on the game. :(

The end of the video talking about the high hopes for TCM is so sad, i wonder if you'll make a video on it.

You forgot about Last Year: the nightmare ( the highschool themed like DBD game). i always wanted to play it but don't have pc. It looked fun as the map was big as the school, up and downstairs. The cool killer animations where they can hid in certain spots to instant down the survivors was a cool concept, it wasn't broken as survivors can just go open a certain closet to free their teammates (like in LD42). sad to see alot asymmetrical games go

@NeocrimsonX

11 ай бұрын

If it was on all platforms it would have more traction same for vhs.

@ahatkid5799

11 ай бұрын

It recently was rereleased and is pretty fun. There has not been a lot of updates recently as the devs are reworking all the maps gameplay and graphics wise. Free to play now as well.

@squidork4355

11 ай бұрын

that shit looked so fun dude

@squidork4355

11 ай бұрын

@@ahatkid5799WHAT!!?

@pillowmint4622

11 ай бұрын

Last Year is goated ong ...the Spider's kind of busted, though....

Ive still got hope for the genre. Im excited for tcm, killer klowns, and carnival hunt

@user-vm1vh1rr6s

2 ай бұрын

Sooo.....about tcm..

@christopherp6727

2 ай бұрын

@@user-vm1vh1rr6s TCM was amazing but made some really rough mistakes that cost them their longevity

DBD only just got on my radar because of Naughty Bear getting in (as a skin for trapper, I know) but researching into it I saw so many characters I recognize and love so I got rather excited.

DBD does a really decent job at improving the game during the mid chapter updates, so that it feels more balanced. Not everyone agrees with the changes but DBD always pays close attention to their community. Which makes it a better a game overall.

@nicknamed1267

11 ай бұрын

I do have to agree tbh. I think the Devs have been doing a pretty good job at listening to feedback and improving the game in recent times, which is great since without competition, the only thing that could really kill DBD was the devs themselves lol.

I'm saddened about the news of the fate of Friday The 13th: The Game, i had alot of fun playing it with friends so saying goodbye to it is hard😭

@samuraituff9653

11 ай бұрын

Maybe it's coming back one day it was a fun game especially with the voice chat

@flavio1243

11 ай бұрын

@@samuraituff9653 meh it's abandoned and the devs will not bother to get two licenses at the same time. I hope Texas Chainsaw Massacre will be successful.

@samuraituff9653

11 ай бұрын

@@flavio1243 bro wtf are you talking about also it's not abandoned it was getting updates it only looks like that because of the license also yes they would get both if they could but that's probably going to be impossible

@flavio1243

11 ай бұрын

@@samuraituff9653 sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but It is literally an abandoned project, you have to know that the game is getting delisted from Steam on December 31, 2023.

@aetheriumaddict789

11 ай бұрын

​@@samuraituff9653they're done adding content bro they said that when the lawsuit first started

Meanwhile: Identity V Celebrates 6th anniversary...

@mitchsz

3 ай бұрын

IDV was approved by Bhvr to be created so it doesn't count for this subject of dbd killers

@Scyclo

27 күн бұрын

IdV, while technically a competitor, is more like a sister game to DBD. Bhvr helped develop IdV. It's why IdV has the pallet mechanics

IMO the real issue is that in DBD the killers basically define the game and choosing a certain killer in and of itself completely changes how a game goes and a round progresses. In a game like VHS, the monsters had some variance but ultimately the different powers weren't different enough to really make it interesting. In making a layout with 3 powers that have to fall into specific categories, you loose so much space to work with. And the monsters didn't really feel as powerful as the killers in dbd do.

@strangeone7198

14 күн бұрын

DBD killers being so defined and different from each other is amazing for gameplay though as it keeps it fresh every match. The problem isn't killer, it's the difference of balancing for sfw vs solo q

I love all the 3 mentioned assymetrical supposed DbD killers, but its true that there is a ton of trouble (Except with Friday the 13th the game, the devs didnt really mess up anything there, but unfortunately they ran into licensing issues) proven by the fact i didnt even know VHS is shutting down, and as a person that pre-ordered the Texas Chainsaw Massacre game, i hope it wont end as the other 3 mentioned ones

@Seoul_Soldier

11 ай бұрын

I really hope that TCM does well, mostly because it would spur BVHR to actually improve their game.

@flavio1243

11 ай бұрын

I didn't pre-order TCM just because I find it a good DBD alternative, but hope the game will make DBD serious competition.

People always forget about identity V, that game is huge.

@xpredatoryoutube7596

11 ай бұрын

They're probably from America and other western countries. Because IDV is only popular in Asia countries.

@mitchsz

3 ай бұрын

Also IDV was approved to be made by Bhvr themselves so idk if it really counts for the "DBD killer" subject

@P1NKPVNK_

2 ай бұрын

@@mitchsz it's an asymmetrical horror game so it counts "oh but it's on a different platform!! it's a different marke-" DBD mobile.

The only real competition dbd has is this gane called identity V but the main demographics for both are too diffrent to be considered competition

I'm actually pretty sad about VHS. Their game looked promising overall and they differentiated from DbD in many ways, especially with their use of actual classic horror monsters like the werewolf which BHVR seems to refuse to do.

The death of VHS was really tragic for me. I've clocked over 3.7k hours in Dead by Daylight at this point; no other asymmetrical game pulled my interest away from DBD like VHS did. The fights were strategic and nuanced at the higher levels, and every action taken by both sides felt like it had a huge impact on the outcome of the game. Dollmaster was a truly unique monster, possibly one of the best designed monsters in any asym game to date. It truly is a shame that the game was doomed to fail, as gameplay wise, it really showed the most promise as the game to rival the king. It was just all of the logistical issues surrounding the game and creating content for the game that ultimately killed it. What pains me the most is that after the game gets shut down, it won't even be available for players to host their own games via peer to peer, so the game will truly never blossom into the experience I was hoping for it to be.

@kanyonwilson3223

11 ай бұрын

What killed VHS IMO is the lack of accepting feedback from monster players. We had dozens of monster players offer ideas to fix the games issue, like removing stun and slow mechanics on both sides, changing the end game [I Win] circle. And such. VHS is would have been much more fun for Monster players if they had completely removed stuns and slowdown from the game, while increasing the monster health but removing the monsters ability to regenerate from attacks. One Example is the Werewolf, it was fun and had a good chase mechanic, but it was too reliant on the unfun roar mechanic that removed the survivors abilities to fight, but you couldn't not use it because you would lose instantly if you didn't. The stun and slowdown mechanics were so bad on Monster and Survivor it became even more unfun depending on which perks and monster you chose, with the hand immediately on the survivors side. As a monster you could get slowed by a single sword swing, and they would have a dozen more to slow you down again, and they would slow you until your armor decayed in some cases, or slowed you so another person could finish you off. IMO the stuns and movement slowdown is what seriously killed off the game.

@kanyonwilson3223

11 ай бұрын

Doll Master suffered the same issue as well, as most of the match you would spend just hiding and playing getaway from the survivors instead of chasing and such. On the Doll Master side you would slowly lose tokens, removing your power. On the survivor side they would have to craft dozens of weapons just to destroy a doll or finally find the Doll Master and him instantly be on the other side of the map.

@luderezeus

11 ай бұрын

@@kanyonwilson3223 feel like for Doll Master it was fine, he was designed to hide away in the depths of the map and puppeteer. But for monsters like Werewolf, the core gameplay caused “aggressive” plays to be severely punished. I wish stigmas were a health bar and not an “all or nothing” mechanic. This would allow survivors to have more movement while using weapons, and make the monster not as scared from taking a bit of damage. This would make it so 1 teen with a weapon can do a bit of damage, but they are by no means a match for the monster on their own as the monster will just dodge and weave to have to tank as little damage as possible before getting the hit. And when the teens are fully stacked it wouldn’t create this boring stalemate, it would just mean the teens have more potential to deal more damage to the monster whenever he attacks, even across multiple stigmas depending on the weapons they are rocking. With this gameplay loop they could even give the monster an ability to heal a limited amount of stigma health per match, and maybe even a the ability to get a little bit of one lost stigma back. ( like the teens book of the dead mechanic ) I think they should just leaned into making it a faster paced deathmatch game. This gameplay loop could have also opened the door to new possible teen weapons, and killers being more unique by not being forever to each have abilities that do generally the same thing. (Movement/Attack/Locating) Sorry that this is pretty much me dumping my VHS redesign idea here, but I am very passionate for this game and honest to God, if the possibility arises one day where the rights to this game are available for purchase, I would definitely be interested in bringing this game back with a new coat of paint. Thanks for listening to my Ted Talk

I feel like TCM has a high chance of at least rivalling dbd, and that's all I want, as long as a game can even threaten dbd it will force BHVR to be better, especially because TCM is going on game pass the day it launches, meaning it's gonna be ultra accessible

@schizhophrenic

11 ай бұрын

TCM and killer klowns 🔥

@VernulaUtUmbra

11 ай бұрын

The problem is that the game CAN'T threaten DBD if everyone is going to play it initially, wait for DBD to get a single patch, and then jump ship back. All the people who want DBD to get competition solely so they can keep playing DBD are exactly why DBD gets no competition.

@legion3800

11 ай бұрын

@VernulaUtUmbra not necessarily because if BHVR only does a few mediocre updates sure people may go back for a bit but they'll just return to TCM, we saw is when Friday the 13th was around, even when it dipped in popularity BHVR were still worried about it soooo

@LoganHunter82

9 ай бұрын

Yeah no. Though I think that DbD and TCM can co-exist in the future (perhaps), I highly doubt that TCM will ever dethrone DbD. TCM's biggest problem is the fact that the devs got the license for the first movie only. Lack of possible new content will be their biggest qualm in the future. And the fact that the gameplay is really bad and unbalanced. There is no bright future ahead for TCM unless the devs pull some sort joker from their sleeves.

@mitchsz

3 ай бұрын

​@@LoganHunter82also too much time to release anything, it took them 4 months to release a new map and a new survivor 😢

Thanks for showing us 🌟💗

It’s so unfortunate that Friday The 13th didn’t last. I played the hell out of it with my elementary and middle school friends nearly every single day. It was so fun and scary.

A lot of Dbd players don't play anything else. Why else would the community be so consistently toxic and combative? For some people, this game is all they do. I dont think this will change until the servers finally shut off for good, regardless of similar games.

@chronicxdzed2693

11 ай бұрын

DBD players aren't real gamers they just want to be chase around like little girls.

@_cloudface_

10 ай бұрын

There was a small window of time where all my PS4 friends that played DBD also played F13 and a lot of times we'd prefer to play F13 because there was less messing about to get a game together and get going, plus we could just have fun playing F13 more. It was maybe only six months or so but it was an interesting time.

@QBJunYT

6 ай бұрын

I wish BHVR would put out statistics for this because, in my experience, all DBD players I know do play games in other genres as well. Not to say I think you're incorrect because personal andecotes only go so far, but I just think seeing those statistics would be interesting to look at. It would explain a lot of toxic behavior in the DBD community if it's literally the only community they know.

@maxigromek4444

6 ай бұрын

Quite wild and stupid statement

@mitchsz

3 ай бұрын

​@@QBJunYThe's not right but not completely wrong too. People in this game have thousand of hours and they're so easy to find, I know because I sometimes look other player profiles on steam, they might play other games but their main is dbd

Wow dude you are really underrated, hope you gain some more popularity, God Bless You!

@LiussDBD

11 ай бұрын

I appreciate that, thank you so much! 🙏

this is a rly good watch and perfectly describes how i've been feeling after playing the game for 5 years and quitting this last december. so disappointing seeing potential competitors fizzle out, glad i'm not the only one feelin this way :/

I think the biggest problem with Dbd nowadays it's that the game isn't a horror game, I mean it is for new players and you get jumpscared sometimes but you don't feel like you're in a horror movie like F13 did While the surviving skills on Dbd are basically running between loops and doing gens, F13 gives you the opportunity to choose, you could fix a car, a boat, a phone or kill the killer, it was a nice way to guarantee that not every match would feel the same I have high expectations on Tcm, hope Gun Media brings back the immersion and horro atmosphere we had on F13

Final part of this video was fantastic. The Onus is on BHVR, but also on us as a community and the very Patrons to the game it-self. Speaking with our wallets is how you make change, especially when BHVR is seemingly refusing to make changes that miiiight cost it in the short term. Amazing how they've got the time to get a movie, a board game, coffee, a comic, Supermassive to develop a game for them but wellness updates/chapters are so unbelievably out of reach because of the upper echelon at that company. We, as the players, HAVE to hold BHVR accountable when we're demanding better performance, longevity, and the health of the game.

@Keygentlemen

2 ай бұрын

"We, as the players, HAVE to hold BHVR accountable when we're demanding better performance, longevity, and the health of the game." Then stop playing it. Literally the only leverage you have is to make their numbers go down. You can't hold them accountable while simultaneously showing them that they're doing a "pretty good job so far" by keeping their numbers afloat. They don't care about passion, they care about numbers. Changing the system is about changing the numbers.

This is a great video, thanks for making it. VHS was exactly the type of horror asym I wanted to see, and it sucks it didn't stick for multiple reasons. It even made changes which bhvr adopted into DBD such as icons for current actions lol. We do have a few other games to look forward to, like TCM, and there are a few possible underdogs as well: Carnival Hunt which was just kickstarted and should launch late this year and consoles soon after, and killer klowns, among others. I personally think the horror asym ip is too saturated by dbd to support these games long term, so I'm hoping we see some unique deathmatch styled asyms which pace more like evolved int he future, while retaining some simplicity.

I started playing dbd two days ago and it’s already one of my all time favorites

@leandropinto138

6 ай бұрын

wait until you get tunneled and frustrated because you havent learned to loop yet

@MachClip

5 ай бұрын

@@leandropinto138 who says he only plays survivor and 0% killer like some weirdos do

Wow you don’t know how much that effect at 13:29 messed with my head I just fixed my grip on my phone with the exact same angle with the screen itself moving on my hand I thought my phone broke. What’s the chance of that happening 😂😂

I remember VHS. The early days. I was one of the first people to get a key for the closed beta, and honestly the game was pretty fun and good for like a solid 2 weeks. Then everything just went down and down. I had high hopes and it was so sad to see the game crumble.

This is honestly a great and informative video

@LiussDBD

11 ай бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it!

I think one overlooked aspect as to why DbD keeps going and these other ones eventually fade away, is the on the surface simplicity of DbD. There is added complexity by the perks, but on the surface, as a survivor you know exactly what to do. You fix the generators, and open the exit gate. As the Killer, you try and find the survivors, and hook them. Those other games all try and add a dozen different objectives. And nothing against them for that, they're trying to innovate the genre and add interesting elements. But i think it all becomes a bit overwhelming for new players. The DbD tutorial can be explained in like, 2 minutes. And for every potential hurdle for new players, there's a perk to help you out. If you're bad at skill checks, use Feng. If you're nervous about needing healing, use Claudette. If you think gens take too long, use Dwight. If you're not great at chases, use Kate. They all have perks that are great for beginners, but then can easily be replaced later once you're more experienced. The other games don't really do that as well for new players.

Identity V is the only competition that DBD has that’s stayed here for long, Idv is having its 5th year anniversary (Na/Eu 5th anniversary, sense the game came out in China first they already had their 5th anniversary but because of that we get two anniversary events which is nice) I woudnt look over Idv just because it’s advertised as a mobile game you can still play it on pc Because of censorship laws in China dbd can’t be played in China so netease (company who made Idv) asked if they could make a game similar to dbd. Dbd agreed and helped out with coding IDV is F2P and it’s not P2W it’s actually P2L cuz the way Idv makes money is from cosmetics and cosmetics are kinda bright so you will probably get spotted. You can get all characters for free just by playing for a bit and every day we get a free character on a trial for that day. Idv is slightly different from dbd but plays the same way, big difference is that survivors have there own unique ability’s Killers don’t have add ons but have something called traits all killers can use the same traits Traits are just a secondary small ability with a lengthy cool down Instead of perks we have a skill tree, the skill tree is like a snowflake starting at the middle and the most powerful skill is at the end of each side (idk how to explain but each one is at the most north south east west) You can only have 2 of the powerful skill For survivors (gonna be using dbd terms) the powerful skills are OG dead hard, adrenaline, Lithe, borrowed time. For Idv it’s like really meta to have adrenaline, like if you don’t have it people think your throwing. The reason why is because killers have a longer animation when hitting a survivor so every single survivor will do this, first instead of finishing the last generator they will prime it getting it too 99% and when they see the character icon get injured or downed they pop it and adrenaline will kick in. It’s a time waster for the killer. Borrowed time does work a bit differently then dbd BT so instead of mending you’ll just go down after 20 seconds or injured. But if everyone has BT that’s at least 60 seconds wasted (80 seconds if you get lucky and killer switches targets) Something nice about lithe and OG dead hard is that we don’t have exhaustion but we do have a lengthy cool down For killers the powerful skills are NOED, Bamboozle, Insolence (not a dbd perk) and trump card (also not a dbd perk) Reason why NOED is meta is because the way the game works is that you need 3+ kills to win and if you only kill 1 then it’s a lost, so during end game because of your slow attack animation you have something to compensate. Also cuz adrenaline is meta so it’s the only counter for it. We don’t have totems but NOED will end after 120 seconds. Insolence will give the killer there ability faster (forgot to mention earlier but killers don’t have there entire ability unlocked yet. The way they get all of there ability unlocked is by injuring survivors so think of it like nemesis tiers) Trump card will let you switch one of your traits When playing Idv I should mention that Camping and tunneling is required to win as killer, it is built into the game like the game will say which killers are better at camping. But some survivors ability’s counter camping The reason why camping and tunneling is meta is because generators get repaired faster and some survivors have ability’s that make them decode faster but are weaker in chase, for example minds eye is blind so your vision will be weird, she will vault and throw pallets slower. But she has a 20% buff when decoding and has a cane she can use every 30 ish seconds where it will show everyone the killers aura and will slow down the killer walking speed for a few seconds. Her Cane does have a directional sound so some killers will just drop who ever they’re chasing to get the minds eye sense she’s the fastest at repairing When vaulting if you get hit during the animation it’s a terror shock which is like a grab but instead the killer just insta downs you, you’ll get used to this and play around it Something I should mention before you start playing is that pallets and attacking is weird but it’s on purpose So some killers have freakishly long attack range like the weapon isn’t going to touch you but it will still count as a hit, but because of this those killers ability’s are less oppressive. On the other hand killers with really short attack range have a very oppressive ability’s The way pallets work are weird, so in dbd you keep looping till you have to drop it, but in Idv if you do that there’s a chance that the killer can hit you during the dropping animation. So when your dropping a pallet you can get hit in the middle of the animation, some characters have a faster animation so it’s harder to get a hit and others have a slower animation so it’s easier to hit them. Some killers will bait out the pallet drop so they can hit the survivor dropping it The game is considered survivor sided but only in NA/EU for Asia and Chinese servers it’s considered hunter sided so it’s just a skill issue for some Idv does have a very competitive side, ranking is horrible I hate it lmao. Ranking is way more competitive then in dbd imo. So there’s no prestige but instead we have badges, when you rank you get character points for that character you are playing, if 3+ survivors escape then it’s a win, if 3+ survivors die it’s a lost. So if your ranking as a survivor you’ll slowly start getting points for that one character. The more points you have the higher rank you get with that character on a leaderboard. If you are in the top 500 for that character you’ll get a C badge, top 300 B badge, top 100 A badge, and for the top 10 players they will have an S badge. Getting an s badge is very competitive sense we also have rank reset everyone is trying to get an S badge. I’ve gotten a B badge with a character before but I wasn’t struggling for that. My friend how ever they got an A badge with another character and is so close too S badge. They are number 12 and are fighting for that S badge. On top of ranking and badges they also have a yearly competition called COA anyone can compete as long as they make it to the top spots in COA ranking. Idv also have collaborate with different companies and games to make cosmetics. Some of the cross overs we have are Junji Ito Persona Angels of death Danganrompa Death note BSD Project Zero Promise never land Nike And much more This is how Idv makes money through cosmetics the skins are based off of B tier A tier S tier and SS tier (SS only has 2 skins lmao) skins are in a gacha and in those gacha there’s a limited S skins, unless it’s a cross over A tiers are not limited and you can unlock them later. To get a Limited S tier it’s about 250 dollars (if your wondering SS tier is not limited you can get them at anytime but it’s about 500 dollars) Other then the cosmetics the game is still F2P

@VroomBee

11 ай бұрын

Part 2 If you are wanting to switch I’m going to list characters and comparing them Nurse,try playing as Geisha. Geisha plays a bit differently then nurse. Instead of blinking she throws butterfly’s and she can dash Towards that butterfly placed, if a survivor goes near it they pick it up then she can dash towards that survivor but if they look a her she can’t dash but it makes it so they can’t see what’s behind them and it will mess them up Death slinger/trapper, should ply as Bane. Bane can set up bear traps and unlike trapper he starts off with 2 and he doesn’t have to go out of his way to pick them up. It goes on a cool down for a little bit but you can have a lot of traps placed down, he also has a hook that he can grab survivors with and will launch the survivor towards you Dredge/spirit, should play as the new killer opera singer. Opera singer ability is that there’s shadows around each objects on the map, she can go into those shadows and move faster (survivors can see her in the shadows) every time she jumps to a new shadow she leaves a remnant like the dredge and she can teleport to that (15 second cool down) she is very fast so I think spirit mains would enjoy Knight/the twins, this first killer is only for the twins and the knight the twins do not relate to the other two killers Dream witch, dream witch has a main body and moves faster survivors can’t see her but she can’t attack survivors, she has a follower that will follower the main body and will not have a Tr she can also create leaches which will follower those survivors and she can switch to the leaches too attack the survivors, she’s a basic m1 killer but with a lot of pressure Clerk, clerk can record survivors and use those recording to her advantage, she can reverse the recording so if she records a survivor repairing she can reverse it and make the generator degrees like that, she can also have a Birds Eye view of the generators, she can record a survivor throwing a pallet then reverse it so she can hit a survivor survivor, she can also record her self but the cons of that is that it will under a 2 second delay and then she only gets one recording (when She records a survivor she gets two recording) she’s a hard killer to learn and play Hell ember, elk ember can create a copy/knight of him self and that copy will break pallets for you and go after survivors, he’s good at sandwiching survivors, he also has 2 dolls that he can teleport too and can make them move (he is a lot like the knight) Pyramid head, should play as undead, undead works weird instead of hooking survivors he can only bleed them out (don’t worry he bleeds survivors out it’s faster) he has a thing like PH ability. Instead of it injuring survivors they. Leap in the air and is stunned, he can control the with of the area he can attack in (I’m sorry I forgot what it was called lmao) if he does it twice in a Row then you do get injured. He also has a dash ability that will injure survivors This is all of the killers I can think of might add more later

@noel7215

11 ай бұрын

@@VroomBeehat’s what I’m saying, identity v is probably best dbd copy that’s out there at the moment.

@monomimoon

2 ай бұрын

Idk why I read this like I'm not an idv addict😭

@VroomBee

2 ай бұрын

@@monomimoon lmao I’m so sorry I just love yapping

@TheUnknown_117

Ай бұрын

bane is trapper + easier slinger joker is easier billy without insta down leo is easier hag + knight wax is trickster with a cooldown nightmare is artist + singularity black guard has doctor’s m2 but white guard has doctor m2’s buff?? weaver is similar to pyramid head, both manipulates environment, have a ranged power and an alternative way to kill photographer is kinda similar to freddy on release, both being able to manipulate another realm and cause repair penalty i also find it funny that a survivor power is similar to dredge remnant, but i forgot the surv name

In Evil Dead I think you have to play againts AI since no one plays demon but it's still pretty fun as a co-op game (It's basically a coop game when played like that) And you find matches pretty quick most of the time. The devs might have saved the game by adding that AI option.

@rabid.vampirism8827

11 ай бұрын

@@TheKingmetroid you're right. i'm a massive ED fan so i'll ramble for a bit here... Evil Dead the Game was something i was crazy hyped for. there's so much they could have done since they had so many of the original voices returning. they could have expanded on the canon (as loosely that term is used within the franchise), they could have caused a spike in popularity for it, they could have made a dent in the side of the behemoth that is DBD. i think that it being Epic Store exclusive for so long really shot itself in the foot -- or cut off its own hand? i've sunk only about 70 hours at most into EDtG, versus my about 600 in DBD. Evil Dead released at a time that i could sink hours into it -- it was summer and i was fresh out of high school. but it's kind of crazy difficult to do anything if you're new to the game or if you don't sink a full-time job's worth of hours into it per week. with the addition of verbal comms, it can lead to sweats being incredibly toxic to someone despite being able to see if they're new (not that being new or having tons of hours sunk in should be a deciding factor in toxicity). my biggest gripes: the rewards for the story mode kind of suck (especially considering how difficult they are, which is fine! i feel like the reward should be something else though, even if it's just an XP boost or some random cosmetic). i think there's a lack of customizability -- new game, so i can let that slide, but it's been over a year with little to no communication from the team, the only real customizations being added being screamers, and an overall disappointing amount of content. but EDtG is MASSIVE, the maps are detailed and at launch there were two, with one other one being added that is incredibly impressive to look at. i have another issue, one that doesn't matter at all to so many people but it does to me as someone who adores the franchise: there is no interpersonal lines between the characters. None. the siblings don't interact, the close friends have no quips (since Kelly and Pablo are taken season 1, same with Amanda, so it makes some sense not to mention things that happen later in the series), the father-son duo can't look out for each other in the slightest. i think it's a minor thing that would have added so much character into the game, something that DBD for a long time did not really have, and it's a minor thing that i think would have made the game more appealing. it's eerily quiet throughout most of the matches and i think that giving the VAs extra time to record lines to be said during match (like minor comments when in the same light source, quips when one gets a headshot, post-game screen where they all just kind of awkwardly walk towards the camera) would have made the game much more enjoyable. EDtG feels like an Evil Dead entry to the franchise. it feels bloody, it feels gross, but it's missing the character that gives the franchise so much heart. also, i don't think you can turn off motion blur. i can't stand not being able to turn it off. it gives me a headache and nausea hahahaha.

@Chris-zc7xj

11 ай бұрын

Saber Interactive is the biggest problem with the game, they leave their fans in the dark 100% of the time, no community events or communication, also very slow content drops with no roadmap for the future. If any of this happened it would be in a fantastic state, but it really seems like Saber hates their fans, Evil Dead, and doesn't understand live service/assym games business models for money.

@Pappalardium

9 ай бұрын

@@Chris-zc7xj Tbh I would rather have them making various interesting games than going live service with one

I would legit love if they took a break from content and put in some perk reworks and patches and stuff.

@kaisarfaust5625

11 ай бұрын

I feel like that would have the game roll into a 9 month "season" and then a balance patch. But they already did this Wellness Patch when they did the Big rebalance addressing Call of Brine, Dead Hard and Healing. This is healthy for the game but it only delays the burnout that comes with having 1 main game that you play. I think the game is too bloated for new people to get into (grinding for perks, £12 or £20 to get the base game and then £6.00 to get DLCs along with £8 Season pass and £8 cosmetics) And then for the more experienced players they have gotten "too good" at the game and optimise the fun out of it. Competition is healthy for the consumer in theory however a splitting of player bases may cause both games to suffer as online matchmaking games live or die by the number of people queueing up to get into any given lobby. I personally want to see a game with longer ranked periods and a challenge / score ladder to try and compete on.

@BonkExclamationPoint

11 ай бұрын

There are plenty of underused perks that need a change, some killers are still lacking behind a little bit, map layouts. These are all main aspects of the game that could be tweaked more in like a patch, max 2. Though, to be fair, it could go both ways, but i would definitely be interested in this more than new stuff atm.

Literally on point everything you said with Evil Dead. Its so unfortunate too. Had so much potential.

When he showed the “wellness chapter” I LOVE how it said “pig nerfed 🐖 “

Friday the 13th was a phenomenal game cus it was never trying to be serious, it was just so fun to play for hours talking to randoms trying to survive from jason. RIP.

I cackled seeing “Pig Nerfed” in the Wellness Chapter. Great video! I dropped DbD a year ago cause it was clear they cared more about making new DLCs then actually balancing their game. SBMM made almost every game feel like a sweat fest, balancing was a mess, and it just wasn’t fun. Hoping the Texas Chainsaw Massacre works out!

Question: After VHS is getting closed can't Behaviour just buy the IP and add the killers like Puppet Master in DBD?

VHS was so fun as killer for me and then I kinda just forgot about that game it's sad to see it gone

@thekingsclips137

11 ай бұрын

@Mr_BearMax agreed

youre def gonna blow keep it up

@LiussDBD

11 ай бұрын

Thank you! 🙏

Sadako is what brought be back to DBD after about a year off from playing it. I as a whole think that Evil Dead is the better game from a gameplay and variety perspective, but it just doesn't have the scope. Behavior placed themselves in this unique position where they can create their own lore that can have these other licenses rolled in as needed.

i love vhs! it broke my heart when they sent out the message that it was going down. it brought back my love for gaming again but gosh, it hurts to know that no one plays it anymore. its basically unplayable now but i really wish it could’ve just had a shot again. i wish it was different 😩

Sad they fumbled VHS like that. I was in love with the style and truly think that game could have been amazing after a year or two.

I didn’t think of vhs as a rival for dbd, it was a completly different game. That being said I miss it so much, I really had the time of my life playing vhs, hope it will be back one day.

I will say that from what I’ve seen of the devs they seem to genuinely care. Me and my friends started playing in 2017 but we kind of dropped off after one stopped. Recently I rediscovered it with some friends and have no idea why I stopped

A "Wellness Chapter" sounds a lot like Operation:Health in Siege... sounds scary.

Friday 13th was so fun and a good game, hopefully they get the licence to the game again And they start updating again Also voice chat was so funny in that game best thing ever

@NandNproductions1

11 ай бұрын

Won’t happen unfortunately. The head of Gun Media said while he enjoyed working with Horror Inc. (the rights holder, and the ones who made them halt content) he’d never work with them again. Can’t really blame him honestly.

@samuraituff9653

11 ай бұрын

@@NandNproductions1 dang if only they didn't agure over a licence

@NandNproductions1

11 ай бұрын

@@samuraituff9653 I know, it’s one of my biggest heartbreaks as a horror and game fan.

@DragonGirl2000

10 ай бұрын

​@@NandNproductions1 Is that what happened? Man, that sucks 😔

@NandNproductions1

10 ай бұрын

@@DragonGirl2000 Short sweet version, Victor Miller, the writer of the original film, was legally able to get the rights back to his original works. He sent Sean Cunningham, the director of the original film and at the time current rights holder a notice that he wanted to have the rights back, or wanted to be compensated fairly from all the money the franchise made because of his script. Cunningham being greedy decided to sue Miller instead. The game released and was a massive success that was bringing massive amounts of money back into the franchise, merch and film sales skyrocketed. Cunningham then made Gun Media halt all content as the money the game was bringing in was money he might have to divide to Miller and not get to keep for himself. Miller has now won the court case and even won the appeal, now a new deal needs to be reached or a new reboot series needs to be started. Miller only has the right to the original film, but the problem is the franchise sequels use the material from the original film to continue the series. When it comes to the game, they never owned the rights, Cunningham just allowed them to use the license, so he technically had full control over what could be done with the game. He told Gun Media that the lawsuit would not effect them and they had no worries to make the game, but when the game blew up, he pulled the rug out from under them so he wouldn’t lose any of that money or any more money it’d make to Miller.

Underated creator, do more vids like this

Idk if anyone had seen it but, there’s a game coming called Carnival Hunt that is gonna be an asymmetric so I’m interested to see how it goes

I just noticed the faint Mario Sunshine beach theme in the background. Like, really faint, you can barely hear it.

I’m going to miss Friday the 13th. from the footage we got from killer Klowns from Outer space it seems like they’re trying to keep the essence of Friday the 13th alive while keeping its own identity

wait... VHS was down for 3 MONTHS?!?! goddamn 😨

@LiussDBD

11 ай бұрын

I remember people excitingly talking about it when it first appeared on the scene, and then that 3 month break happened. The very next thing I heard about it was that it was shutting down. 🧍‍♂️

Friday the 13th the game will always hold a special place in my heart as it was the first horror multiplayer game i ever got into. I played that game for hundreds of hours the year it came out. It’s really unfortunate that they got screwed over by a lawsuit as i believe that game had the most potential for longevity although it is limited by 1 license whereas DBD has several. God damn was that game funny as hell though

Just you wait until someone makes a Nightmare on Elm street game! I can see that hypothetical game having a build-your-own survivor based off of a handful of archetypes going up against various incarnations of Freddy Krueger! Each variation of freddy would have different strengths, weaknesses, and abilities. I can see a high school, boiler room, auto junk yard, power plant, westin hills, elm street itself, and of course, the elm street house. Oh, and did I mention Robert Englund would providing his voice and motion capture for the ol' Fredder. Take what works for each of these games and mash 'em together. All of their strengths, none of their weaknesses! That would dethrone DBD for sure.

@realizedpotential6640

9 ай бұрын

Or a well made creepy pasta character game

identity v was the closest thing to a dbd killer ive seen, but identity v has a far different target audience and its a mobile game... which leads to a lot of people not trying it

@vi3w3d

11 ай бұрын

Yeah and dbd helped idv in the start which is interesting. From what I remember the pc version of idv just isn't as good as it could be which is why it isn't as popular on anything except mobile. Also this year I baiscly left idv for dbd and have been enjoying it. For me idv just isn't as fun as it used to be because the devs really just keep releasing skins to get as much money and the community is not the best and I'm not as interested in the story anymore. Sad it was my favorite game and I got into dbd because of idv.

@daniildickovsky

11 ай бұрын

@jeo2233 i played idv since day one and i quit about a year or two after because the community was unbearable and yeah, what i see it looks like mostly skin focused. The gameplay seems to have fallen off a bit

@vi3w3d

11 ай бұрын

@solisavem yeah same I was a veteran of idv, I did try multiple times to come back but the gameplay just feels so messy now the laggy skins it really did fall and it's a shame cause I did spend a bunch and I mean a bunch of money on skins throughout the years I played it. The only reason I haven't deleted it.

My friends loved and feared me as Jason since I did a good Mickey Mouse impression. Eventually, I made up a persona called "Buttsex Joe" which was essentially me parodying hillbillies while blaring Cotton Eye Joe as Jason

@salmon_wine

11 ай бұрын

based

It's kind of interesting that we also have two more of these games either out or coming. The Texas Chainsaw Massacre game JUST dropped not long ago and we also have the Killer Klowns from Outer Space game coming this year...although the killer klowns devs are already suffering from silence. We'll see. I'm hyped for both. The Friday the 13th situation is sad, because the game was AWESOME....until it became unfun to be Jason, but still a good game. and Evil Dead...yeah, the communication and lack of new content is sad. I LOVE the Evil Dead franchise and feel sad that there seems to be a drought and nothing much going on with it. Great video though and can't wait to see more from you! :)

@lewispooper3138

10 ай бұрын

Disappointing to see horror ips being made into these trash multiplayer games that die in a month

Actually in regards of a wellness chapter that's what's happening this year! This year we are only having 3 chapters, with the 4th being a health update

I think one of the main problems with similar games to DbD is that their main target audience is going to be people who already play DbD. I heard about VHS before the first beta released but I had never seen it advertised or played by anyone other than DbD content creators.

The texas chainsaw game unfortunatly has a giant flaw and that is longevity. There is only so much that you can do with a franchise like Texas chainsaw massacre.

@LoganHunter82

9 ай бұрын

Not to mention that the devs only got the license for the first movie. So yeah, not so much new content unless they can snatch licenses for the other movies in the franchise

As for the demon thing you do realize ash is a specialist in killing demons it only makes sense that he’s be the most efficient at it and even in the show he was old and often one v 2d and won

Its so sad last year was so forgotten it isnt even mentioned on the tittle

I'm really hyped for TCM, I think it has huge potential

@ZombieGangster

10 ай бұрын

Huge potential to fail

Well, TCM is currently spiraling hard. Which does suck, it was alot of fun for a little while. However, DBD just did their best Halloween event in a long time, got Stranger Things back and just released Chucky. So, at least thats good.

Crazy how these licenses brought us up the game. I came in early 2018 with the Saw/Pig drop and that brought me to the game. 6 yrs and 7,000 plus hrs later and I still enjoy the game & love that new players are being brought to the game daily.

VHS was soooo much fun. i’m so sad it didn’t make it.

I'm hoping for chainsaw massacre because I love dead by daylight and it's my main game but I'm looking forward to chainsaw as well and I really hope it does good so dead by daylight has that strive to improve and Stay at the top

"you get better phones" *shows iphone* "improved services" *shows netflix* "and updated norms" *shows a Hyundai* that HAS to be intentional right?

you were doing so well and then you brought up a wellness chapter, two games I was obsessed with went down hill so fast after a game health update, dbd does that and the game will go into decline

We kind of did get a wellness chapter with that huge perk overhaul that was a couple years ago I think

I just bought TCM, dbd has been absolute nightmare for survivor especially since xeno,new players campers,toxicity and the worst on solo,i tried TCM for 1 day and by that night i couldn't get back to dbd fast enough 😫 someone pllzzz give us something

TCM walking out in a suit:

TCM was actually pretty great! Having multiple killers in the same match actually made the game feel less stressful in that role, but didn’t make it feel unfair for survivors with the abilities to fight back and focus on stealth. Overall, I enjoyed my time with game more than DbD, but unfortunately the lack of variety killed the game, which was quite sad.

Yessss, thank you so much for this video. I feel like you put into words what I've been thinking and saying a lot. I've pretty much given up on DBD. Haven't played the game in years now, but I still watch a lot of videos of other people playing the game. As someone who played a lot of DBD-likes, it's really disheartening to see many of them not stand the test of time like DBD has. So much potential, but sadly they just couldn't keep a hold of enough players. Also, sad that you didn't mention Last Year: The Nightmare. Being a Discord store exclusive definitely killed its chances. Even when they had a second chance with Last Year: Afterdark, they still weren't able to make a comback, though the game is kinda back again in "maintenance" mode, with a new dev team potentially taking over, so maybe their third time will be their best. I also wanna mention two games in the genre that I've played a lot - Identity V, a so-called "DBD-clone" by a lot of people, yet has a pretty big following with the eastern crowd. Similar gameplay, yet has so much more mechanics, an actual dedicated Ranked mode, and alternative game modes like a 2v8 mode. They've had big crossover events with games like Persona 5, Danganronpas 1-3, and popular anime like Death Note, Promised Neverland, Bungo Stray Dogs, etc. - Home Sweet Home: Online. After being in beta for two years, it's finally officially released just about a month ago. I feel like it's actually got lots of potentially, specifically with how they're trying really hard with marketing and promotions. While their targeting the Thai crowd, they have a bunch of "licensed" characters in the game which they created in collaboration with other people.

I still absolutely love Evil Dead The Game, and you can still find matches relatively fast. Id be lying though if I said it didnt have glaring issues. Developers taking absolute ages to address very large issues and to release new content along with some of the content not being liked or welcome by the community. Looking at you Splatter Royale 😒. I wish the developers cared as much as the community did, because as it is, its a good game in my opinion but it could of been so much more.

First mistake of VHS was that survivors could fight back. Another thing was that some players were in game for MONTHS ahead of other players, so I played 3 games as killer, and got absolutely destroyed, without even really knowing what to do, so I disconnected from the last match, and never turned the game on again.

@shark-kaboom8813

11 ай бұрын

How is the team role being able to fight back an issue?