They just wouldn't let it end. Both Days of Future Past and Logan had perfect ending points for the franchise.

@serenityfirefly-1873

5 жыл бұрын

Days of Future Past would have been an amazing finale for the team up movies if they'd had (a slightly better) Apocalypse BEFORE it. They rushed into it after only one movie of the younger cast. So it should have gone: X-Men, X2, The Last Stand, Origins, First Class, Apocalypse, The Wolverine, Days of Future Past, Logan.

@robert48044

5 жыл бұрын

in Logan did they show the Hulk's and his family being Mobsters? I didnt see it but Ive been wondering about that. Like it would conflict with the Avengers version of Hulk.

@robert48044

5 жыл бұрын

@Malo Tha Prophet I wonder if that was a mistake

@yourenotthatguypal3483

5 жыл бұрын

@@robert48044 Fox didn't own the rights to Hulk I'm pretty sure, plus I don't think it would've fit too well in Logan seeing at how realistic it was besides the Mutants. For Fox, the landowners of the Black family that kept on bullying them I guess were similar to the Hulk Family from the comics.

@robert48044

5 жыл бұрын

@@yourenotthatguypal3483 i cant help but feel the way the charecters were sold has hurt the movie side of the comic books.

Another problem with the franchise was putting all of their eggs in the Wolverine basket. They never wanted to take the time to fully develop other characters.

@brandonp.6051

4 жыл бұрын

That was the most frustrating thing for me. Bryan Singer wouldn't stop blowing Wolverine at the expense of nearly everyone else, and most of the other filmmakers after him followed his lead.

@pittland44

4 жыл бұрын

To put it bluntly, they over relied on a lot of things. Brian Singer, Wolverine, the Xavier/Magneto relationship, bad adaptations, the actors rather than the characters (which was the problem with Cyclops is they kept casting him with dud actors, same with Angel, Banshee and a lot of the others). You have all this crazy shit in the X-Men's corner of the Marvel universe, and we never got to see any of it. How about the Brood? What About Genosha? Can we really see the Morlocks? A true Age of Apocalypse scenario? What if we were to go the Savage Land? And the one that really pisses me off because they teased at it but never delivered: Mr. Sinister and his obsession with Scott Summers and Jean Gray. If you want to do a more contained Scott and Jean story, do Sinister. Hell they did that on the fucking cartoon, and it worked like a charm.

@narenbaradwaj5058

4 жыл бұрын

@@pittland44 we also never got the starjammers, the shiaar empire,skrull space, proper version of genosha, madripoor, they completely ignored bishop, Cyclops,storm, rogue, angel and all those colorful iconic costumes and actual origins for mutants

@pittland44

4 жыл бұрын

@@narenbaradwaj5058 Damn Straight!

@SacredDaturana

3 жыл бұрын

Agreed. I think Hugh Jackman being so fuckin great as Wolverine actually derailed the franchise a bit.

I cannot BELIEVE they made the perfect costumes at the end of Apocalypse and then DIDNT EVER USE THEM AGAIN

@lukesenter1559

5 жыл бұрын

ChandSlam Apocalypse wasn’t great, but it’s last scene was! With the comic-accurate costumes and danger room!

@EasyCure0

5 жыл бұрын

@@lukesenter1559 I know man. Cyclops and nightcrawler looked so badass. It made me so hyped for whatever the sequel would be, until they revealed lame costumes. I would have given the movie a free pass just to see the X-Men versions I grew up with on the big screen

@magnamic5614

5 жыл бұрын

Luke Senter, Honestly, IMO, they’re weren’t that good or perfect at the end of Apocalypse. They were just ok and a slight nod. As all Fox X-Men things are. Just ok and just a movie.

@tornadochaser2457

5 жыл бұрын

@@lukesenter1559 I'm guessing the costumes were deemed too goofy and out-there for the more grounded tone of Dark Phoenix. The leap to yellow costumes was willing to be made, but all the different standout colours was seen as too much.

@lukesenter1559

5 жыл бұрын

Tornado Chaser Well that’s just part of the reason why this last X-Men movie fails

If I were to adapt X-men, I wouldn’t have it be a movie. I think it needs to be a tv series. There are so many stories and characters in the X-men (the X-men are the wu tang clan of the comic book world) so give it an 8-10 episode run on a streaming service, 1 hr an episode for maybe 5-6 seasons/series I think you could do it justice

@MeganSin

5 жыл бұрын

ChandSlam that’s kinda what I was thinking. X-men is probably the only comic book that would benefit more from a tv show format than movies. That’s kinda why the animated show was so great. Or they do what they did with Spider-Man and not really do n origin movie because we know his origins story. Except they need more justice for the origin story

@camm8642

5 жыл бұрын

I kind of agree even though I think you can do movies to get the most out of something like xmen a long serial type of series or format I think is best there are just so many characters heroes,supporting characters,villians its like its own mini universe in scope and its very heavy on character development and relationships and obviously the social commentary its different from the avengers and should be treated as such.

@PennyAfNorberg

4 жыл бұрын

The gifted?

@famousbowl9926

4 жыл бұрын

Yaaa... No.

@piyushnagawat24

4 жыл бұрын

Then starting standalone series of popular characters form original xmen tv series... Like they did with the CW shows of DC(flash, arrow, supergirl) or like defenders like individual then a series binding thrn together....

Days of Future Past would have been an amazing send-off.

@dankerbell

5 жыл бұрын

*Logan would like to know your location*

@grobanworldnews4216

5 жыл бұрын

I agree. DOFP was a perfect send off for both casts. Logan is a terrible send off because it dooms all the X Men and leaves us with a bunch of mutants kids we barely know.

@jph4889

5 жыл бұрын

Just imagine. They COULD"VE made Apocalypse FIRST, lost to the big purple guy, and then done Days of the Future Past, where they go back in time to....stop him...wait, why does that sound familiar?

@miloa.2684

5 жыл бұрын

@@jph4889 they did plan that at first but the studio did not want that

@Furkward

5 жыл бұрын

@@jph4889 He wasn't purple lmao

Days of Future Past was a perfect climax and Logan was a perfect epilogue. I choose to ignore everything that came after.

@JeffreyJFerguson

5 жыл бұрын

This is the correct take.

@dreamwarrior1276

5 жыл бұрын

Exactly.

@xweedduckx6885

5 жыл бұрын

@@deadschooled that's your opinion dickhead

@plasmasnake4774

5 жыл бұрын

Jason-Matthew Schmucker but what about Deadpool 2?

@BooksfromaBiGuy

5 жыл бұрын

Deadpool lives in his own space!!!

Just imagine how insane it would be if Evan Peters became Quicksilver in the MCU outta nowhere hahahahaha

@AsaBrooks

3 жыл бұрын

@Aaron A420 I can't tell if you know or if you don't know.

@darthvenom305671

3 жыл бұрын

hehehee Bohner

@LadyAstarionAncunin

2 жыл бұрын

Not really a fan. I can't stand how awful he looks. He looks like a cosplayer. I'd rather see the tall, muscular guy that we got in the comics. That goes for Magneto too. Where's the muscle-bound intellectual silverfox?

@conserztasfia0078

Жыл бұрын

@@LadyAstarionAncunin I guess u like the avengers' quicksilver instead

@drlca6601

Ай бұрын

@@LadyAstarionAncunin you must be eating good w '97 then lmao

I’ve never understood how Logan could have been a perfect ending given it completely ruins the upbeat and hopeful vision of the future given in Days if Future Past

@bryanthomas4907

2 ай бұрын

Yeah its by far the most vaunted. Not bad but not my fav.

@ethanstarbuck3124

Ай бұрын

I know this is late, but I disagree; I see where you’re coming from, but it actually continues an idea from Days of Future Past: that time is a river that can’t be changed. The mutants still get wiped out around the same time as Days of Future Past, but in a different way

Jeniffer Lawrence’s obvious disdain for her role as Mystique which showed in every movie she was in didn’t help either.

@blackphoenix77

5 жыл бұрын

She was only there because of contractual obligations: otherwise she would've bailed after First Class.

@jeffextreme5498

5 жыл бұрын

I really don't blame her. I blame the changes they made with the character. Complete disgrace. And Rebecca was the perfect Mystique.

@Aaron-hh5tf

5 жыл бұрын

Jeff Extreme I was thinking she didn’t like the role simply because the other actress looked so seductive as Mystique (Supermodel) whereas Jeniffer Lawrence’s looked pretty roundfaced

@jacobstewart6146

5 жыл бұрын

I felt she tried in first class

@impulse5674

4 жыл бұрын

TheRealist 811 yeah that was retarded, in fact I don’t ever recall mystique saving everyone from an exploding mansion, I don’t recall mystique ever lifting a submarine, and to top it all off she says that right after she makes night crawler and quicksilver save everyone from the shuttle

Logan was literally the perfect ending, bittersweet but perfect. They have completely tarnished their legacy with Dark Phoenix, going out on a whimper.

@fernie-fernandez

5 жыл бұрын

Then where’s Laura...!?

@ciaranmcloughlin7165

5 жыл бұрын

They shouldn't have bothered. Honestly.

@fernie-fernandez

5 жыл бұрын

@@ciaranmcloughlin7165 Then how would MCU bother Dark Phoenix...!?

@weavehole

5 жыл бұрын

It’s not ruined if nobody watches it! Maybe that was their cunning plan.

@fernie-fernandez

5 жыл бұрын

@ChandSlam But, will it be CGI-infested with several characters that are recasted and change of race...!?

I really like Wolverine, but if I would start fresh I would make sure that other characters like Cyclops, Storm, Nightcrawler or Gambit would get their fair amount of screentime instead of focusing most of the movies on Wolverine. Especially as Hugh Jackman isn't available for the role anymore. Also, I know you said don'T put it in the MCU, but doing a Phoenix Saga movie that actually happens in Space would be a great crossover with the guardians of the galaxy.

@markchapman6800

4 жыл бұрын

Yes! The X-Men are a team, but that aspect has never worked in the movies. The story focuses on one or two characters, and the rest become warm scenery.

@pittland44

4 жыл бұрын

I would love to see a Disney Plus series that did a first class story that actually involves the original five X-Men (Cyclops, Beast, Jean Grey, Angel and Iceman) and then add X-Men in the order in which they joined in the comics (Banshee, Havok, Polaris, etc). Take your time and do a slow build. Have them learn to work together, and have them be a bunch of kids when we meet them and watch them grow.

@elderrusty541

3 жыл бұрын

Have Wolverine in them but have him come later, maybe give him his own movie and cross him over later

@Filthy_Larry

3 жыл бұрын

The first film in my universe wouldn’t even have wolverine in the movie until the sequel where he would be a secondary character who plays a big role and is a Canadian agent with memory loss hunting sabretooths scent. First film would have sentinels be the true main villains with magneto as a political villain and not an evil person but villainy Sinister would be the villain in the second. Sabretooth would be a scout who hunts down mutants for sinisters experiments. Cyclops gets the Luke skywalket spotlight while not over shadowing other x men. Apocalypse would be the emperor here as he is sinisters boss and the final villain the X-men face but sinister would be the headline character like Bain was in the dark knight.

@Filthy_Larry

3 жыл бұрын

@@elderrusty541 wolverine should be introduced in the immediate sequel but as a secondary character. Think of a gunner from expendables.

X-Men Origins: Wolverine's Jacket - thats all we get from that movie, where he got that jacket...

I mostly like these movies because of the cast. James McAvoy and Michael Fassbender are phenomenal.

@dreamwarrior1276

5 жыл бұрын

You can't polish a turd.

@davidencoification

5 жыл бұрын

@@dreamwarrior1276 Something being less than good doesn't mean it's an absolute turd, grow the fuck up. I think these movies are enjoyable if you know what to expect of them.

@thecowshow5641

5 жыл бұрын

Sean Upton P E R F E C T I O N

@wolfsid00196

5 жыл бұрын

Fuck yeah

@thisisnotme33

5 жыл бұрын

@@davidencoification You mean like expect a turd, then you aren't disappointed when you get a turd and won't try and polish it?

They kind of forgot to make consistent movies...

@euanjackson811

5 жыл бұрын

The young X men films were consistent they were all ten years apart but the characters didnt age

@blyzer7373

5 жыл бұрын

@@euanjackson811 What? How is that consistent?

@blyzer7373

5 жыл бұрын

@@euanjackson811 Oh i get it. Nevermind.

@MrRiddle0

5 жыл бұрын

They were consistent in the fact that not one movie was consistent

@moscreefus

4 жыл бұрын

I think they're pretty consistently flaccid

"hey, let's have the guy that ruin xmen 3 ruin a new xmen movie again, oh and please make sure it is the same one, just add some sprinkles and no one will notice"

@ChaseBlackmoon

4 жыл бұрын

Wait, they used the SAME guy? No wonder it stank.

@mikebond9612

4 жыл бұрын

Ummm. Singer didn't make Xmen 3. That was Brett Ratner. Singer left to make Superman Returns

@ChaseBlackmoon

4 жыл бұрын

@@mikebond9612 oh really? My mistake, still a shame they both are crappy.

@mikebond9612

4 жыл бұрын

@@ChaseBlackmoon Agreed!

@mikebond9612

4 жыл бұрын

@@ChaseBlackmoon Had to double check in case i had that mixed up. They both suck ass

Gambit has been my favorite character since the 90s and I have yet to see a good adaptation of him for film. Crossing my fingers for the MCU

@onemorerep6597

5 жыл бұрын

I know right, thats a great character and they don’t even use him.

@l.blanton3019

4 жыл бұрын

He was on point in wolverine origins,they need to do his origins with rogues and show how she got Ms marvel powers

@ScarlettFevers

4 жыл бұрын

Nic Vegas Channing Tatum was supposed to be playing him, but I haven’t heard that in awhile now

@LukeLovesRose

3 жыл бұрын

They'll have to replace Hugh Jackman as the most beloved character somehow. Gambit seems like a perfect candidate

@25-keys44

3 жыл бұрын

@Craig Arnott that sounds fucking grim

First Class, Apocalypse, Dark Phoenix, Days of Future Past. That sounds like a strong way to set up mutants, bring a massive threat, tell a more personal story as a consequence of the big threat, then a hail mary attempt to save the ruined world of the previous film.

*Am I the only one who loved that Gambit in Origins even if it's not "comic book accurate"?* *That was actually so cool.*

Fox: I’m sorry for the films we’ve made Fans: You’re always sorry Fox & there’s always an excuse...but nobody cares anymore

@obsidian8180

4 жыл бұрын

Lol they arent even sorry. They just enjoy shitting on us. Teasing us with comic accurate moments in trailers and end of the films. Only to deliver a film that caters to general film audiences and not X-Men fans. And then they lure us back in again with another moment at the end. Fuckers

'House of M' possibly the overarching theme of Wandavision??

@Beastinvader

5 жыл бұрын

But perhaps she is the one makes mutants instead of destroying them.

@sidecharacter3193

5 жыл бұрын

Beastinvader I hope not because then they’ll eventually get rid of the mutants when reversing it

@marvelousTUD

5 жыл бұрын

It will certainly set up House of M at the very least. It will reportedly deal with Wanda’s reality warping powers and an idealized 1950s-Essie version of the world that she creates in her own mind.

@bryans_cult

5 жыл бұрын

@@marvelousTUD link me the source.

@marvelousTUD

5 жыл бұрын

Dude, Google it

It could have been worse, I'm personally glad for the things they did right, most of all Hugh-Jacked-Man.

@keith1984rich

5 жыл бұрын

It was worse. Dark Phoenix was a waste of film.

@jadeo6325

4 жыл бұрын

Hugh jackman actually killed it he wasn’t their original choice but he did a great job as Wolvie

@piyushnagawat24

4 жыл бұрын

Well said

@how_tragic

4 жыл бұрын

Huge Jacked man

I blame Nick Mason.

@zepp_broski2404

5 жыл бұрын

Daniel Taylor drummer for Floyd?

@EasyCure0

5 жыл бұрын

@@gorbinbundle don't forget he's the King of icecream

@magnamic5614

5 жыл бұрын

Daniel Taylor, I was going to write, “How dare you blame my man crush!!!” Then I read the replies to your comment. Now I love your comment.

@EasyCure0

5 жыл бұрын

@@magnamic5614 he's such a man crush, yum yum yum!

@DerHammerSpricht

4 жыл бұрын

I blame Taddy Mason

I hope when the MCU does these characters they do some different stories that Fox never got too. I would like to see Sinister, Brood, Alpha Flight, The Phalanax, and Asteroid M.

@Bingo_the_Pug

Жыл бұрын

I’m a time traveler from the future and I’m here to tell you, the franchise was better in Fox’s hands than Disney’s. Extremely hard to believe but you’ll see in due time

Dark Phoenix looks like a quick cash grabs by execs who knew the company was being sold.

Continuity shmontinuity is what X-Men is all about.

@jdsmall13

5 жыл бұрын

John Campea fan too?

Costume design wise, Frank quietly's new man uniforms were inspired by the first movie costumes. So these uniforms are crappy versions of comic uniforms that were designed to work in a live action setting

@Zenocius

5 жыл бұрын

More like the blue man group

@markchapman6800

4 жыл бұрын

I liked even the first X-Men movie at the time, but stopped reading the comics, their adoption of the boring movie costumes being one reason (the unexplained reboot which introduced the new costumes was the main reason).

@projekttaku1

Жыл бұрын

I wish for last stand too inspiration from frank quietly x-men suits, with splashes of yellow over the leather. Then apocalypse would follow on the costume design path first class was on, and give them their comic accurate suits for the final battle, and dark phoenix would have them all throughout.

How to fix the x man franchise. 1. Erase apocalypse, dark Phoenix and origins from existence 2. Done

@agentofchaos7456

3 жыл бұрын

What is your buff with Phoenix?

@charlespuruncajas9663

3 жыл бұрын

I’d do a remake of Apocalypse but with a better design for the villain

@goatfarmer4785

2 жыл бұрын

@@agentofchaos7456 Phoenix has too much powered And she got killed by wolverine Seriously???????????????? The greatest weapon in x men is imotion 😂😂

@sheepnari4373

2 жыл бұрын

@@agentofchaos7456 really? It was a usless adition to the movies

@agentofchaos7456

2 жыл бұрын

@@sheepnari4373 Its purpose was to help set-up a new saga.

I am very okay with Daredevil becoming the new '& Knuckles' meme replacement. E.G. 'Chunky Vegetable soup with Swede, Carrot & Daredevil' Even works with songs - 'Are you going to Scarborough Fair... Parsley, Sage, Rosemary & Thyme... & Daredevil'.

This might just be me, but I really liked the Dazzler cameo. To me, things like that just make a fictional world feel more living. Like, there are characters with lives, Hope's, and dreams outside of the main plot.

@ThatOneDoesntCount

5 жыл бұрын

honestly like the only good thing about Dark Phoenix

Reboot complete and adapt the first season of the 90’s cartoon with modern implications

@pittland44

4 жыл бұрын

I would love to see a night of the sentinels movie. And have it end on kind of a down note. Beast is in jail. Morph is dead (or is he?). Scott and Logan are at each others throats, and then proceed from there.

@choosiheng5493

4 жыл бұрын

That's cartoon series perfectly sums up my childhood. And who can forget the best cartoon theme somg

@shadowman5567

3 жыл бұрын

YES! This is what I've been saying. It was executed so well. The X-Men were already established, no need for origin stories. And through Jubilee as a new character we were able to catch up with all the X-Men characters and the plot while still having action packed episodes.

fix without going to the mcu? bring in the bishop and cable stories. more alternate timelines.

@rossbatten2912

5 жыл бұрын

Either of those characters in a Terminator type movie coming back to save a doomed future would be really 90s and I'd love it. Bishop is my favourite X-men character of all time.

Phoenix wasn’t bad, but Mystique went from mysterious to traitor to preachy. Her character evolved to where I couldn’t figure her out and she died in the end. X-Men timeline was weird.

A multi million dollar movie franchise that each time made its budget and more, made Hugh Jackman a household name, and includes the highest grossing rated R move to date (Deadpool) is a failure? Wish I failed that good in life

@sensei-lr4cj

3 жыл бұрын

To be honest it's not the X-Men, it's Wolverine and friends.

@athenajaxon2397

2 жыл бұрын

Honestly the only one of these movies that flopped was Dark Phoenix

Well we have old steve rogers now…

It wasn't a failure. It made money. X Men, X2, First Class and Days of Future Past are in my top 10 Superhero movies

A big part of what makes or breaks a movie is the antagonist. X-men: Magneto and his extremist methods and the regular people prejudiced against mutants X-Men 2: Stryker manipulating the facts, creating a story that gives him more power, as well as his connection to Logans past X-Men 3: Same as X-men 1, as well as Jean coming back to life, but very unhinged (not entirely fleshed out, which was a part of the movie not being well received) X-men Origins Wolverine: Stryker, the manipulation of Logan, Victor, Logans animal nature, etc (Just a bit too much, which lead to nothing feeling fleshed out) The Wolverine: Logans mortality, how he's tired, but has never been able to settle down and be happy. Always in a war, and always being the last one standing among enemies as well as friends. Logan: Endings as well as new beginnings. Logan is old, his healing factor is failing, and everyone he's ever known is now gone. He and Laura are hunted down by a government branch as well as the physical representation of Logans rage, his animal nature and how his life is nothing but a blood soaked war-zone. X-Men First Class: Schmidt, his connection to Magneto, the threat of Nuclear war, and the fear of the unknown that is now revealed to the world X-Men Days of Future Past: Time itself, both in the threat of the future, and the mistakes of the past X-men Dark Phoenix: Random aliens that lost an energy that latched onto Jean (who also has memories locked away to keep her in check), no real personal connection and it's just the X-men trying to find and reason with Jean while the Brotherhood is trying to kill her. All this while public opinion on mutants went from _really well_ to _We hate you_ overnight Edit: I completely forgot about Apocalypse X-men apocalypse: Random ancient mutant (which doesn't make sense cause mutants were supposed to show up after the nuclear age, accelerating evolution). A team of random mutants that have little to no personality or purpose o(other than magneto) Gradually, these films just became a set-up for a big final battle with meaningless characters that look cool, but lacks any actual heart

What ironic about Old Man Logan is that, he’s already and Old Man even before he joined the X-Men!!! You know what’s an awesome idea? *Old Man Cyclops* Where he’s diagnosed with cataracts...

@606danco

4 жыл бұрын

Great scott thats a good idea

@MCThaQueen

3 жыл бұрын

@@606danco i read that in doc browns voice from back to the future 😂

They weren't great films because they didn't explore the character's motivations enough. For example; why is Cyclops the leader? He wasn't the most powerful (Iceman/Jean) or the most intelligent (Beast). If you read the early comics you know its because of all the original X-men he was the only one that could only use his power to kill, or at least maim, enemies. There was no turning it down or off; if he beamed you you were done. This resulted in an individual with a huge sense of responsibility who understood that their actions had weight. That's why Charles picked him to be leader and groomed him to become the tactical master they needed. But in the movies he's bit part/irrelevant. Is it any surprise that the moves tended to be a bit shallow? The obvious exception is Logan; the film in which they explored motivation more than any other and it resulted in the best X-men film.

I've always wanted to see Age of Apocalypse adapted. That was a fantastic story.

@LoveProWrestling

3 жыл бұрын

but it only works because you are surprised to see familiar characters in new personas. Joe popcorn will not give a shit that Havok is different in this universe because whotf is Havok?

@dennisjohansen8490

3 жыл бұрын

@@LoveProWrestling It works because it was a good story. I didn't know who half the characters were when I read the comic as a kid. That didn't keep me from seeing that it was a good storyline. With a couple exceptions, most of the characters were not really that far from their counterparts in the original story anyway. Just a different world setting. The studios need to stop pandering to "Joe Popcorn" anyway. That is why we have the garbage heap of X-Men movies that we do. Joe Popcorn doesn't know anything about any X-Men storyline so why would he give a shit about which one it is just so long as he can eat his popcorn?

I want to see Old Man Gary Oldman.

@shinbeet.5708

4 жыл бұрын

Who are you and why do you have my profile picture?

@pittland44

4 жыл бұрын

Isn't that just Gary Oldman?

It's simple do Dark Phonix 2 more times because as we all know the 5th one is where it gets good again

Ahhh so this is your magnum opus... well played Mr sunday

It's no coincidence that the simpler stories like Logan or Deadpool outperformed the movies packed with too many characters. Sometimes less is more

X-Men Danger Room Protocols. Look it up. That is what the X-men NEED to be

I would love to see old man Spider-Man with Tobey Maguire

@ruifigueiredo5486

5 жыл бұрын

we might get that lol i heard somewhere that the next spiderman movie after far from home is a spiderverse movie

@diegom-a7970

5 жыл бұрын

I really want Tobey in a Wes Anderson movie

@glazinghost5951

5 жыл бұрын

That would be Spider-Man: Reign

@abovethelaw4417

4 жыл бұрын

Tobey is the best Spider-Man

@ryanpeters4415

4 жыл бұрын

You mean dead mj cuz of radioactive spider semen? That's a real fucking comic...

Because Charles *didn't know what to do!*

@jph4889

5 жыл бұрын

CHAAAALLLSSS

@squirrel9544

5 жыл бұрын

*Idontknowwhattodo*

@mk6rfc1

5 жыл бұрын

Can’t believe that didn’t make the final cut

@zom8680

5 жыл бұрын

@@jph4889 SHOW YOURSELF!!!!!

“I fix the carburetor for YOU” “You fix it? You can’t fix it.” - Longmont Potion Castle

This is some of the best editing I've seen on this channel, especially 1:04

X men 1, x2, first class, days of future past, Deadpool, Logan, And Deadpool 2 were all great.

@ciaranmcloughlin7165

5 жыл бұрын

The only bad ones were Last Stand, Origins, Apocalypse and Dark Phoenix.

@oldmanlogan9616

5 жыл бұрын

@@ciaranmcloughlin7165 dont you forget about The Wolverine.

@oldmanlogan9616

5 жыл бұрын

Days of Future Past wasnt that great at all, except for the Quicksliver scene.

@Lionize728

5 жыл бұрын

I really don't consider the Deadpools X-Men movies, but you're right, they were great.

@robertjohn8711

5 жыл бұрын

Vinicius RDLP Nonsense. It had an engaging plot, great dialogue, fun action, and heartfelt scenes. Easy best besides Logan

Old Man Hawkeye is an absolute fantastic read.

“We need an old captain America.” 1 month or so before endgame released

Re-watching this video and I feel that they focused too much on certain characters and put Wolverine front and centre way too much. The x-men are meant to be ensemble films with each character explored and fleshed out. I've seen other comments on different videos like this one saying about how characters like Storm, Cyclops, Psylocke, Iceman etc getting little to no character development. I do think the MCU has done a brilliant job of making viewers care for each character in the ensemble films and the origin films.

Would have been nice to see more individual stories in movies from the characters and not have them relied on wolverine to carry the franchise and have everything leading up to the X-men forming like avengers maybe it just got hard for them to balance every character on screen

Well, it's the fourth highest grossing franchise and 8 out of 13 are certified fresh, so I don't think it truly failed

It lasted 20 years, kickstarted a superhero renaissance and made billions. Hardly a failure

Loving the love for Days of Future Past, that movie is pretty pretty good, very entertaining and feels very X-Men.

IT'S SIMPLE. TOO MANY ACTORS, WRITERS, AND DIRECTORS!

@Silenthitman44

5 жыл бұрын

Last stand (writer) ( beginning of the end the rise of Kinberg destroyer of x men and ff4) Part of days of Future past (writer, producer) Apocalypse ( writer, producer) Dark Pheonix ( writer, producer, director) Were written by the same person, Simon kinberg who steadily got more and more power and basically took a shit on it's source material, continuity

"How to fix the X-men franchise?" -Obvious answer= Give it to Kevin Fiege.

man the editing on this video is amazing. props

The first 10 seconds “Im gonna squeak this one out thats xmen dark pheniox” 😂😂😂

X-Men the actors of the original VS Planet broadcasting... Standard American football pitch... Go

@torcoolguy

5 жыл бұрын

I mean, James did do Karate, so...

@curlysmith101

5 жыл бұрын

Also James' special move - baby James with a big sandwich - unstoppable!

Them: U wanna sea old man Captain America... Me: No, I don't think you will...

I would love to see the introduction of the Xmen and Brother hood in the MCU be them running at eachother just like the intro to the 90s series

You mentioned the first Ironman, but the universe hadn't been established. The reason the Ironman changes worked was because these characters weren't popular in the comics initially. The most popular comic characters from Marvel were Spider-man, Fantastic 4, and X-men.

"Age of Apocalypse" is my 2nd favourite comic story of ALL TIME. Id love to see a TV series adaptation of it. I think my love for it is why the terrible Apocalypse film hurt so much.

@analothor

Жыл бұрын

age apocalypse's story ending was terrible

@Codemarla

Жыл бұрын

@@analothor It did just kind of limp out at the end yeah. it suffered from the problem that it was a comic so everything had to return to normal at the end. If it was adapted id like to see a change to the end.

@analothor

Жыл бұрын

@@Codemarla at least with x men Apocalypse the idea of phoenix killing Apocalypse isn't completely far fetched

@cjlister8508

Жыл бұрын

@@analothor Disagree, I hated that. Apocalypse was built up as being so powerful then was killed very quickly in a very un-satisfying way. Given how he was killing people with mind controlled grains of sand earlier in the film, it made no sense why he just stood around doing basically nothing.

@analothor

Жыл бұрын

@@cjlister8508 no I mean in terms of power scaling, the phoenix is a multiversal entity in normal context it makes sense as to why apocalypse shouldn't be able to beat that but not in this film where the phoenix wasn't given any build at all

"They could have called it Fantastic Four and another guy" 😂😂😂😂😂

Nearly half of these movies stand the test of time... The others are completely forgettable but still...

@kendallhurley8596

4 жыл бұрын

But they're shouldn't really be considered x men movies

@nossasenhoradoo871

4 жыл бұрын

"Nearly half of these movies stand the test of time." But there is no time. That is why Star Wars got "improved".

The edits in this video is insane!

X-Men: The Last Stand “great send off” X-Men: Days of Future Past “great send off” X-Men: Apocalypse “great send off” Logan “great send off” X-Men: Dark Phoenix “great send off”

@rosshauler7688

3 жыл бұрын

Tbh I wouldn’t really call Last stand or Apocalypse films that were meant to be send offs

I've just realised, having the entire Dark Phoenix plot occur in X3 is VERY comparable to the treatment of Danaerys in the last GoT season...

@obsidian8180

4 жыл бұрын

This is true. Very true

@Colin-um5tz

Ай бұрын

Fun fact, the same douche Lords, who gave that treatment to Danaerys in the final season of GOT, also was responsible for the even worse abomination is X-Men origins: Wolverine

I don't count Logan as canon cause they did the characters so dirty by killing them all

I havent even watched the video yet but theres so many reasons. And it makes me sad. This is my favourite comic book franchise :/

@isaachanakuka3315

3 жыл бұрын

I read the comics as a kid too.......so much material and they still messed it up .... why was mystique an x man? Because reasons

Failed? There's about 10 films. How can that be a failure?

@toddreyes2487

4 жыл бұрын

Most of them sucked

@landrysaathoff2418

4 жыл бұрын

I mean, they were super hit and miss. It’s not fair to say that most of them are one way or the other.

First off Disney drone, THE X-MEN DID NOT FAIL!!! X-Men, X2, origins Wolverine, First Class, Days Of, & Logan we’re all very well received movies from fans BEFORE Fox sold to Disney!!! Since then, people like you have been saying they failed!!! These are some of the best marvel movies out there!!! They basically stayed to the origins of the franchise & didn’t focus on rushing the stories or doing crossovers like Disney does!!! The others I am also talking about is, the first two Rami Spider-Man’s, Iron Man one, & even the first Fantastic Four!!! Tim Story took time to build what happened & put some heart into the Fantastic Four & people didn’t like that there was hardly and action!!! As I get back on the X-Men, people have Jackman praise for what he did with Wolverine!!! People also liked the job that was done on both versions of professor X!!! Just to name a couple things that were said before the dumb Disney take over!!! You people have to stop trashing everyone that is not Disney when it comes to the MCU!!! Disney does nothing but ruin things they touch anymore!!! Look at Star Wars & how they have completely ruined that great franchise!!! They want and changed up things that George created to get their stupid version to make sense!!! Look at how they are taking classics they made & turning them into live action, sjw nonsense!!! My wife loves the original lion king but wants nothing to do with this new version!! She loves the original Aladdin & talks crap about this live action version that is completely unbelievable!!! Let’s get back to the “stand alone” MCU movies Disney did & the reason why X3 is better than most of those!!! After Iron Man one, Disney started turning those movies into Avengers movies!!! Look at 99% Of the “stand alone’s) and you see members of the Avengers in those!!! I am a caption America fan & they turned his into Avengers part 1a,2b & 3c!!! If you are truly a fan of marvel, then you actually do want to see that studio out of the hands of sjw Disney!!! If you love those movies, then you are a part of the problem in this country & why we have Hitler Jr. in the White House instead of a president who stood up for everyone’s rights!!! Don’t hate the facts!!! Stupid comments will not be responded to, so marvel drones, don’t even try!!! That will just prove my point about you!!!

The "Logan" movie was much more like the "death of wolverine" comic than it was "old man logan".

8:11 Actually, I always thought that there should be a Nightcrawler/Daredevil crossover. Daredevil's blind and works at night, so nobody would be able to see Nightcrawler (who happens to have night vision) and Daredevil wouldn't judge him by the way he looks. Also, Matt jumps off buildings while Nightcrawler is an acrobat who could teleport and stick to walls. They're even both Catholic.

"The first one that loses money will be the last one we make." -Hollywood's Golden Rule

It's sad it had to go out the way it did cuz I loved the first two and still do. They paved the way for the modern superhero movies

Thanks for giving the X-Men a proper sendoff, with a series of videos. If I have to watch one more KZread video, talking about and game, I’m going to cut my throat.

the x-men series is a peak example of a studio not knowing the right place to stop. They could have stopped at X3 and left it there, and MAYBE continued with like x-men apocalypse or something.

@ThatoneGuy-uk6cd

5 жыл бұрын

i mean its like star wars. nobody asked for another movie, nobody NEEDED another movie, because it was fine the way it was left off.

Dark Phoenix didn’t work, but the whole franchise wasn’t a failure. There were more good movies than bad movies

@KnicksWillBeBack25

4 жыл бұрын

That is highly debatable. X2, First Class, Day of Future Past, Logan were the only Xmen films I would say are above average films. X3, Dark Phoenix, the first Wolverine movie and Apocalypse were monumental failures. The bad Xmen films outweighs the good Xmen films.

@sameenshahid7457

Ай бұрын

​@@KnicksWillBeBack25 that's your opinion. Most of the films did well at the box office.

8:56 I wish someone put as much care into the X-men movies as they have into the Fast and Furious movies. I AM SERIOUS. Just travel the world and thing of set pieces. Hell, do it like the mission impossible movies and just replace a bazooka moment or a missile moment with a mutant moment.

@talentleesdorito9771

4 жыл бұрын

Fast and furious transformed from movies about street racing to mission impossible with cars

@prasunkumar117

4 жыл бұрын

Hell no, even fast and furious needs to die.

Thank you for actually showing images of all the movies while narrating, instead of just showing two guys talking, and you both point out facts very relevant to the reason of why this series was very irregular.

Cool vid 👍 Is multiple man officially cancelled tho? I thought that’s the only one that could still be made as long as they start shooting in the next few months.

Days of Future Past was gorgeous

@Ignasimp

4 жыл бұрын

Yes.

How to bring the franchise back? That's easy. First, stick to the comics. Second, no more origin stories. Majority of the world knows who the X-Men are at this point, so no need to go over it again. If you don't know, who cares. If the movie is done well you wont need origin stories, the 90's animated series did a great job with this. Third, if you intend on making a trilogy (bunch of movies) make one badass story-line that will expand through multiple sequels and stick with it. They did this in the first trilogy making it revolve around Wolverine, which was a mistake. Wolverine is my favorite comic character, but these were "X-MEN" movies. They need to give the rest of the team more screen/story time. Just my opinion..

I will never understand why people like X-Men 1. I just always felt bored with it and there were so many parts and characters that were dumb and/or useless (Sabretooth, Toad, and Storm for instance). There are scenes I like, but most of them are when Patrick Stewart and/or Ian McKellen are present.

Congratulations on 700 videos

Failed ? This is the franchise that gave us X-Men, X2, Days of Future Past, First Class, Logan, etc.

@jbo4547

4 жыл бұрын

And had hugeee failures/shit movies with Origins, X3, the Wolverine, apocalypse, phoenix..... come on brah

@mazengwe28

4 жыл бұрын

Days of Fututre past was horrible.

@zackwoodd4606

3 жыл бұрын

@@jbo4547 The XCU isn't perfect but the movies Cedric mentioned are all top tier comic book movies and beat the silly MCU movies that rather have dumb humor instead of actual storytelling

@67namrajoshi51

3 жыл бұрын

@@zackwoodd4606 no where near MCU

How they mistreated Selene's character alone is worth it bombing. Seriously how do you f*** up so many great characters in one movie lol. Dark Phoenix was an abomination of not only its source material. But a huge disservice to great cast of characters. Reducing some to merely footnotes is unforgivable. Good riddance to Fox and hopefully Bryan Singer is cast off to some Island somewhere. R.I.P X-Men!!💀

My question is why of all the awesome female characters in x-man, why did they pick Mystique as their "go to gal" and kinda screw all they other x-woman over? I mean really?! Poor Storm, Rogue, Kitty, Psylocke, Jubliee and even Jean Gray to some extent. :(

@jeffextreme5498

5 жыл бұрын

Yep. This. And that's on the crew, not on Lawrence.

My favorite X-Men movie characters are the 20-or-so 'flying' guys, who all fly the same way, as though they are swinging from an invisible cable. The Invisible Cable Squad, I call them. 5:15

Hi random person! Have a great day!!

@angbald

5 жыл бұрын

Back at ya rando🤘

@danieljackowitz2343

5 жыл бұрын

You three! See what I did there?

Because it was never taking seriously from the beginning.

@wolfgang6442

3 жыл бұрын

Pretty much, but let's hope the the next iteration is a lot better

One thing i always disliked about the x-men movies, at least the original ones, were how they always found some way to have cyclops excluded from almost the entirety of the plot

I have to say, thinking about it, the first thing that comes to mind regarding the series ending, is that I won't miss the broken continuity. It really does have the effect of making me far less invested. This has become more apparent recently, with things like the Phoenix's origin being unclear between Apocalypse and Dark Phoenix, and the cast being a mere eight years away from looking like Patrick Stewart and co. The series has had its ups and downs, but ultimately, I think it's all part of its charm, and it's an interesting case study. I'm very entertained by all the films really, and I think the highs have definitely been worthwhile. I think what I'll miss most about the series is some of its truly excellent casting.

@cameronbaker97

8 ай бұрын

Yes.

They definitely should of finished the X Men Franchise with Logan that was the best movie in the franchise

Legion episodes are an hour long and Xavier is gonna be in season 3 so if you watch 2 episodes back to back then they're better X-Men movies than the actual movies

@jeffextreme5498

5 жыл бұрын

hahahaha I'm a fan of the show but your comment is hilarious. Yeah right.

@Boutiki

5 жыл бұрын

Hydraxion Voltage how do you know he's gonna be in legion? Season 3 i still need to watch that!!

@Nealrex101

5 жыл бұрын

shit, is Legion out on any aussie streaming service? i’ve been dying to see it

@exzyyd392

5 жыл бұрын

@@Boutiki In the trailer you can see him for a second wearing Cerebro. In the trailer's comments a few people have said that a certain actor has been cast as him (I've never heard of him so I'm not sure)

In Dark Phoenix I kinda liked the costumes, but I still wanted to see the suits at the end of Apocalypse used in Dark Phoenix

Great video!