What countering Incineroar does to a mf:

@Dr_Donald_Duck

15 күн бұрын

Was looking for this. The video could've been a 4 seconds: "Because it counters Incineroar" and everybody would've been: "Makes sense, have a nice day."

@SarcasticBeingYes

15 күн бұрын

Not only that, basc most legendaries except Koraidon and some others like Groudon.

@usernametaken017

14 күн бұрын

wide guard bulky incineroar counter pseudoimmune to intimidate

@diegovelosa8519

14 күн бұрын

fr lolll

@chriskoloski32

3 күн бұрын

The day they add a pokemon ability that does intimidate but for special attack is gonna make comp go crazy

Imagine going back in time and telling a gen 8 vgc player that zamazenta becomes one of the best legendaries in the format and zacian becomes one of the worst Edit: I know zacian is far from the worst, I just over exaggerated it to make the joke work better

@towndarling1618

15 күн бұрын

Zacian isn’t bad at all, but in a format where you only have one restricted mon it’s not worth the slot

@GravityIsFalling

15 күн бұрын

I mean if you explained to them everything that happened (the nerfs + meta shifts + body press) They probably wouldn’t be surprised

@bungyss

15 күн бұрын

Zacian is far from the worst, it's actually still better than average if you think about how it's better than every single restricted legendary from Gens 1, 2, 4, 5 and 7. That's everything spanning 23 years from 1996-2019 except for the two eternally viable weather setters from Gen 3.

@videogamahagain

15 күн бұрын

​@@GravityIsFalling well yeah after you explain exactly why everything is the way it is it makes more sence but before that they would probably be a bit flabberghasted

@chinchillin242

15 күн бұрын

​@@bungyssI think Lunala is better, but other than that you are giving facts

"So you're getting nerfed for gen 9?" "Yeah" "Do you think you'll lose?" "Nah, I'd win" **body presses everything**

@aname4390

15 күн бұрын

That's the thing, it wasn't nerfed, it was buffed with body press access.

@lucasleong8529

15 күн бұрын

@@aname4390it did get nerfed due to the once per switch in ability, just that the buffs outweighed that

@RFDN0

15 күн бұрын

​@aname4390 It was nerfed. It lost BST, and its ability was changed to only work once. The thing is that body press literally is worth significantly more for Zamezenta than everything it lost.

@umwhoalol

15 күн бұрын

Lol body press is just what gives it a real way to deal damage, its ok but not great, other mons have better offense because of tera nuking, it's just the meta around it. Wide guard is on absolutely no legal mons that are good, besides it- people are literally running mienshao and pelliper for just access to that. And bulk with the ability to 1 shot fairy, dark, and normals running around. The meta demands the mon right now with flutter mane and calys causing that.

@capricous7196

15 күн бұрын

Zac/ian

Game Freak really tried to trick us into thinking this thing was on par with Zacian

@waitingfortheequinnox

15 күн бұрын

Even now the two aren’t equals

@jamesfeng24

15 күн бұрын

Yeah, zacian is genuinely trash now. Funny that even if zamazenta only got nerfed and zacian never did, it still would see more success in reg g tbh. Body press is just THAT huge of an upgrade for Zam

@Elite4koga

15 күн бұрын

Honestly thought zamazenta looked coller lol i like its shield

@jacksonbranby

15 күн бұрын

Zacian has never held a candle to zama

@SochimaOkwara

15 күн бұрын

In terms of design or viability?​@@jacksonbranby

funny how the Shield Dog actually ended up getting paired with the Sword CAT instead.

@what.are.you.doing.stepbro

14 күн бұрын

Underrated comment

@luckluca8982

14 күн бұрын

I think Chien-Po is a ferret

@noivern8595

14 күн бұрын

​@@luckluca8982 I'll have you know 🤓☝️

@Andrew-ch3xj

14 күн бұрын

​@@luckluca8982 both

@ShearGeniussharpening

14 күн бұрын

​@luckluca8982 it's an ermine kinda like a ferret

All it took was put Body Press on this mon 😭

@CalebDeez

15 күн бұрын

Yep 👍

@RFDN0

15 күн бұрын

A lot of defensive mons gained some form of viability solely because of body press.

@Darchias

15 күн бұрын

Frankly it was criminal he didn't have it to begin with.

@hussainalaiwi9270

15 күн бұрын

All it took was giving the defense fighting type a fighting type move that uses defense and was introduced in the same generation

@ferringsylveon219

14 күн бұрын

Yes. XD

It's such a shame that we didn't get to see gen 8 with Body Press Zamazenta. Imagine both doggos at full power and evenly matched.

@justcallmeharrison377

15 күн бұрын

Especially considering gen 8 INTRODUCED Body Press. Honestly a laughable oversight not giving it to the defensive fighting box legendary

@TheRatBehindTheSlaughter

15 күн бұрын

And worst of all, why would behemoth bash not use defense too? It fits both lorewise and gameplay wise since body press exist

@squiddler7731

15 күн бұрын

​@@TheRatBehindTheSlaughter Maybe cause gamefreak thought it'd be overpowered? ... ...Ah who am I kidding they probably just forgot lol

@TheRatBehindTheSlaughter

15 күн бұрын

@@squiddler7731 gamefreak forgoting something? Never tought that could happen.. Like lets adress the elephant in the room, not making behemoth bash use defense is like giving psychoc to great tusk ! Wait a second..-

@teammcpe13

15 күн бұрын

I hate the move Body Press so much, I think this move is too good for semi-defensive Pokemon in a game where the Gen 1/2 Stat EXP system isn't a thing.

Behemoth Bash should've been like Body Press 😥

@Killer1984able

15 күн бұрын

THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYINGGG

@GravityIsFalling

15 күн бұрын

It’s already the most consistent legendary no need to

@daphenomenalz4100

15 күн бұрын

​@@GravityIsFalling it still should be tho, it makes sense even lore wise lol

@GravityIsFalling

15 күн бұрын

@@daphenomenalz4100 Would you agree to give calyrex ice victory dance?

@hypphen

15 күн бұрын

@@GravityIsFallingi want people to suffer so yes

The fact Zamazenta is still affected by Intimidate just it doesn't effect its primary method of attack makes me imagine it as this terrified Scooby/Courage type dog accidentally crushing the scary cat man in its panic.

The "yes, yes it is" after questioning it's viability had me cracking up because it was so non-chalant

@yeahright3901

14 күн бұрын

It was a corny question anyways especially after talking about how it’s literally the best legendary rn and why

at least zamazenta finally got something going for it

@3180P5

15 күн бұрын

You said it

It was always weird that Zams didn't get Body Press from the get-go. Did they test it and think it was overpowered? Compared to Zacian, of all things? Or did it genuinely slip their minds all this time? Either way, really happy to see my doggo from Shield having a good time!

@user-ni2bo3mu5p

15 күн бұрын

Balance, please this company made Mega Rayquazza and in the At generation made Zacian. They likely just forgot or didn’t feel like it

@tetzy5172

15 күн бұрын

Considering it is the shield pokemon, it is weird its signature move doesn't use defense stat to damage Behemoth Bash feels like it should have been the upgrade, legendary form of Body Press

@BobardeZanzibar

14 күн бұрын

​@user-ni2bo3mu5p they didn't forget it. They just have a different design philosophy than what most of us would like.

@dragonslair951167

14 күн бұрын

@@user-ni2bo3mu5p It's worth noting that Game Freak almost exclusively balances with doubles/VGC in mind, and Mega Rayquaza was powerful but not overwhelming in doubles.

@conorb.1901

14 күн бұрын

​@@dragonslair951167this, even back in 2016, despite Mega Ray winning the world championship, the tag team of Primal Groudon and Kyogre were generally considered the better legendary picks that year.

Every dog has its day

@DebayanRay-rb3qy

14 күн бұрын

best comment

@mr.truffles9294

12 күн бұрын

Nice

Stand proud zacian, you *were* strong

@adrianstyranitar717

15 күн бұрын

How do you bold you words

@shanedsouza189

15 күн бұрын

I *believe* you put an asterisk around the part you want to bold

@ohhellwhereami2574

15 күн бұрын

​​​​​@@adrianstyranitar717 Something like this * (whatever you write without spaces but) * **see**

@pallpksp9142

15 күн бұрын

NAH SIT DOWN ZACIAN, YOU'RE WEAK

@adrianstyranitar717

15 күн бұрын

@shanedsouza189 Thank you, I *believe* its true. honestly, you are *magnificent*

Zacian, the Pokémon designed to be the pinnacle of offense, is being out damaged by their overlooked defensive brother and their evil sword cat friend

Zamazenta's truly had an underdog story.

@MaybeSableye

15 күн бұрын

Literally

Love how the addition of body practically saved 3 of the worst legendaries (regirock registeel and zama) and has given them actual viability and a chance for success

@goGothitaLOL

7 күн бұрын

*Body Press

It’s amazing how Intimidate’s ubiquitousness in competitive was part of why Zacian was _so_ good in Gen 8 and overshadow Zamazenta because its ability basically made it immune to Intimidate, but now Intimidate makes Zacian a liability and lets Zamazenta shine.

They’re finally giving my Shield Boi the love it deserves. Big Body Pressin’ Zama

"They made fun of him because he was weak but he unlocked a cheat SSS rank skill and became OP!"

TLDR: Fast stackattacka with a +1 boost on switch and *can’t*be intimidated is good

@Andy-xn9zn

15 күн бұрын

Can you rewrite what you have typed? It does not specify what stat is boosred and what is lowwered.

@eriol_shards2815

15 күн бұрын

​@@Andy-xn9zn+1 on defense and intimidated is -1 on attack

@inmanis2924

15 күн бұрын

zamazenta gets a +1 def boost on switch in once a battle from it’s ability. giving it the clear amulet hold item prevents its’ stats from being lowered

@rhesapratama4194

15 күн бұрын

@@inmanis2924 no its not about clear amulet specificly, body press does damage with defense, meaning zamazenta dont give a single flying f about intimidate. and you need your item slot to transform it into crowned forme too.

@Engelion

15 күн бұрын

Thanks 👍 I understood nothing

OK that glorified bastiodon meme was hilarious as hell

@RFDN0

15 күн бұрын

Bastiodon also got bodypress this generation.

@joshuakim5240

2 күн бұрын

@@RFDN0 And Foul Play. Tera-ing Bastiodon can genuinely result in some wacky plays that it would never otherwise dream of pulling off.

Finally, the cooler of the two doggos is good.

The sad thing is Zamazenta could've gotten Body Press in gen 8 easily since it makes so much sense. Now I'm not surprised that it's better now.

If Behemoth Bash worked like Body Press, it's only Achilles Heel would have been solved lol :D

@jylleperez509

7 күн бұрын

Not really, BB would give it more coverage, but it still wouldn’t be enough to fair against walls. Still also makes it susceptible to being walled by Skeledirge just like Zacian

It genuinely feel wrong that Zamazenta and Body Press both were introduced in the same generation but Zamazenta didnt get access to it (Also Wooloo and Dubwool don't learn Rollout dispite rolling like a ball being theirmost Iconic Trait) *edit: I am embarrassed I wrote the wrong Pokémon

@vez3834

15 күн бұрын

Zamazenta* but yea

"Zacian is too weak" is the one sentence I never thought I would hear. Glad to see Shield doggo thriving. I'm 100% confident Zamazenta (as well as some other supportive restricteds like Lunala) will skyrocket in usage once 2x restricteds will happen. Having that insane support movepool while also having a nuke at same time is huge.

"Miraidon is Miraidon." Not wrong Miraidon is the DON, the head of destruction and gamefreak bs.

I swear everything combines with chien pao this gen😭😭

@RFDN0

15 күн бұрын

Physical attackers have been dominant and a mon reducing pokemon's defenses passively really aids them.

@uribevaldezargenis8862

15 күн бұрын

Sword of ruin is basically the intimidate for defense, that plus clear amulet being a counter to intimidate makes psychical attacters easier to use

Well, Michael won because it was a 7v5… Joji’s Chi Yu betrayed him

@barry101ish

15 күн бұрын

That his fault for using low accuracy moves

@unnderneath

15 күн бұрын

@@barry101ishyeah unfortunately Pokémon is very unforgiving. Even with all the correct plays, he still lost because he chose to gamble on inaccurate moves.

@joshuakim5240

2 күн бұрын

@@barry101ish Yep. When one sacrifices consistency for power, then they shouldn't be surprised when they lose their gambles when it matters the most.

It’s definitely worse than SwSh Zacian, but it does at least come close

@aninass

15 күн бұрын

Naah, it doesn't even come close. Zacian went from 10 to 4. Zamazenta went from 1 to 7. If they wanted Zama to be a 10 they should have let Behemoth Bash scale off of Defense.

@waitingfortheequinnox

14 күн бұрын

@@aninassTo be honest, that decision (+Recover for both the doggos) is something I want to advocate for but know they’d never do so esp. with how meteoric Zamazenta’s rise was with just Body Press

@aninass

14 күн бұрын

@@waitingfortheequinnox again, Zamazenta's rise was not meteoric at all. Most people would still rather use a special restricted like Kyogre or Calyrex-S to mitigate the intimidate problem and some other picks that do Zamazenta's job. Zamazenta is also not creating consistent results as opposed to its competitors. The opportunity cost of not being a better restricted is also there. And Zamazenta is also not strong enough to win you a tournament if you are not running Iron Defense / Body Press set, which is predictable. The only reason Zama got this high because this is a single restricted format, which was totally unexpected and most people would rather take the safe way rather than the risky ones. Tldr; Zamazenta's rise (if you can even call it that) is nowhere close to meteoric, and most people still think that Zamazenta is not a tournament winning restricted.

Zamazanta: history will be kinder to me

From broke to broken

freezai covering all the fun discoveries of vgc is making for great content

Incineroar: I fear no man, but that thing *points to zamazenta crowned* , it scares me

They really did a Topsy-Turvy on the competitive viability of legendary doggos. Now Zamazenta is stacking paper while Zacian is trying to get by.

@regilad_9043

9 күн бұрын

Is zacian still the way better of the 2 in singles?

@giornogiovanna3477

4 күн бұрын

​@@regilad_9043 Yes

@reneantoniorodriguezippoli7561

22 сағат бұрын

​@@regilad_9043Yes and unfortunately Zamazenta is still quite irrelevant at Uber

Wow, it's like Zamazenta should've had Body Press all along 🙄

Finally, my beloved Zamazenta is usable, I liked the design way more than Zacian's, and liked the body press defense strat but it never got body press, but now...

I will always love how depending on the current meta everything can be a surprise

The crazy thing about that meme in the beginning is that the pokedex implies Zacian is actually a female. The elder sister in fact.

Looks like Zamazenta found a best friend in Chien Pao. 😊

Wait... Does Sword of Ruin really help Zamazenta? For Heavy Slam, yeah, sure, but does it help with Body Press since "The power of the Pokémon's ruinous sword lowers the Defense stats of **all** Pokémon except itself" Or is it a lie and SoR is only calculated when recieving damage?

@mrboost4186

15 күн бұрын

Choice Band boosts Body Press but Eviolite doesn't, so it's the same thing going on here

@AztecCroc

10 күн бұрын

Body Press only considers the user's raw Defense stat and stat stages, everything else comes from attack boosts. Sword of Ruin has no effect on Body Press, Tablets of Ruin does.

*Defensive legendary becoming viable when you give it ways to augment its offenses with defensive boosts (a concept introduced in the same generation as said legendary):* Game Freak: :O

Behemoth bash should have used the defence stat as well, that would’ve definitely helped

MY BOI ZAMAZENTA FINALLY MADE IT 😭

@3180P5

15 күн бұрын

Weird how I'm a Zacian fan, but I'm crying tears of joy for the Zamazenta fans. *Not to mention, my first Gen 8 game was Shield*

Remember. This is nerfed Zama. If he got Body Press in gen 8, when Dauntless Shield always activated, he would be disgusting. And if Behemoth Bash was a Steel type Body Press using defense? He would make his sister Zacian cry.

Love the description you gave Miridon, gave me great info

zama is finally good, and all it took was.. 2 massive nerfs to zacien, a move pool buff. and a brand new hold item LMAO

@TreeForceGaming

15 күн бұрын

I feel like you are spinning the narrative here a bit. Both Zacien and Zamazenta got the same nerfs Zaciens stat nerfs were a bit harder, but they both got them. He got one move, a singular move. A held item was added that changed the landscape of the meta. Because it allowed every pokemon the chance to get around intimidate. Which Zacien cannot use and Zama does not need.

@duckyjellomana4316

15 күн бұрын

Zam benefit literally nothing from new item, it just that Zacian can’t use clear amulet while Zam doesn’t care about attack drop to begin with. Both Zacian and Zam got the same nerf as well.

@pallpksp9142

15 күн бұрын

To be honest, GF gave Zacian too much tools in Gen 8 and gave too little in comparison for Zamazenta. I feel like this is really deserving.

@Gravity_Ws_only

14 күн бұрын

@@pallpksp9142*gen 8 but yeah

@peterholmes7440

14 күн бұрын

And a meta focused on spread move with poor Wide Guard distribution

Behemoth👏bash👏should👏use👏defense👏like👏body👏press👏

Body press is one of the most based moves GF has ever come up with. We need more like it

Zamazenta has always been my preferred Gen 8 cover Legendary (I have yet to play Shield but still), it's great to see it do well

Zamazenta went from lvl 1 Crook to lvl 99 Mafia Boss

Zamazenta being a fighting type is a blessing this generation because the Dark Type has been incredibly dominant this Gen. So many strong Dark Types are meta viable, Dark Type attacks are very widespread (especially Knock Off). And Zacian was hit much more with the Statnerf from Gen 8 to 9 then Zamazenta was. I wouldnt say Zacian is too weak. Its still absurdly powerful. The meta simply doesnt favour it (mainly thanks to incineroar being such a broken Pokemon.. if it was Arcanine Zacian would shine much more because it didnt have to fear a Parting shot on its swords dance turn).

as a zamazenta enjoyer, you love to see this

What sort of bearstein universe did I end up in where zamentza 25% use rate and zacian is at 3%

man i can't wait for your gen 9 retrospective

Always happy to see some Freezai VGC content

Pokémon shield players finally getting their money worth

Why its signature move didn't scale off of defense is a mystery.

@kosakukawajiri5007

14 сағат бұрын

Behemoth Bash being a Steel type stronger Body Press? I'll take 5.

@altogrey9712

14 сағат бұрын

@@kosakukawajiri5007 i mean if Zacian can have a 150 bp move that scales off its monstrous attack stat, I can't see why Zamazenta has to scale off of his ok ish to mid attack when its defense buffed by Dauntless Shield is right there, same as Zacian with Intrepid Sword. Like they just did my boy Zama dirty.

bruh I remember zamazenta being legal in gen 9 ou for a while, this is hilarious

Ice Rider also outclassed Shadow Rider & became no. 2... The dominance of the underrated powerhouses... In someday, Koraidon would defeat Miraidon...

What Body Press does to a mf:

Zamazenta has been my day one so im happy to see him prosper

I’m so glad Zamazenta has been getting some attention. It’s been my favorite Pokémon ever since it got introduced and I feel like it’s design was super underrated... I just really like it’s color scheme lol

@stefanielonn4164

6 күн бұрын

That’s why I picked shield over sword when those games first came out. Zamazenta’s design was so cool. I didn’t know this at the time either, but miraidon is better than koraidon due to not having any 4x weaknesses. I picked violet as my main at the time because it had the present-day version exclusives I wanted to have on my team

That was the biggest U-Turn I've ever seen

Zamazenta got that DAWG in it

So not only Zamazenta sounds and looks cooler but it's also better. Good day to be a Zamazenta fan

I was hoping you'd make this video!!

Damn I knew I was cooking when I put body press on zamazenta in hackomons

As someone who got shield right before entering competitive, I love to see my boy eating

I’ve always loved Zamazenta more. Now it’s its time to shine.

The heroic shield dog and the nefarious sword cat making the best duo is amazing.

0:01 good to know terapagos isn't entirely bad.

I actually like the set where you drop protect and just run Iron D, Heavy slam, body press, wide guard. I can't bring myself to drop one of these, they are all too good.

*From Zero to Crowned Hero: A Zamazenta Story* Coming soon to theaters near you.

Ah, I love seeing my shield doggo finally getting the time to shine!

Literally an underdog story

I really enjoy Chien-Pao in Reg G. Ice Spinner is phenomenal for terrain teams, and sword of ruin enhances many Pokémon. I specially like a core of Speed Boosting Flutter Mane, Sash Pao, AV Entei and Scarf Koraidon. Flutter mane supports with spread damage and Icy Wind speed control, Pao has priority, eliminates terrain, and makes Koraidon and Entei stronger, Entei with AV can be rather specially bulky, being very helpful vs Miraidon, Caly-S and Terapagos, while having the best priority in ESpeed, and also having the busted Sacred Fire boosted by Koraidon’s Sun. Finally, Koraidon can use Scarf to outrun most of the meta, is extremely powerful, has U-Turn to pivot around, and provides the sun to make Entei stronger, and Flutter Mane faster.

Zam was my favourite looking out of the shield/sword duo. I'm glad it's finally getting the attention it always deserved.

It brings a smile to my face to see that my two favorite legendary Pokémon got time in the spotlight

I love both zacian and zamazenta, zacian by far my favorite and one of the coolest legendaries. I'm glad zamazenta getting love, would be cool to see both have a worlds title

I'm glad tarapagos is getting play, he has such a cool design

I always loved Zama from the first day

how can anyone hate on such a good boy

My good boy finally getting the respect he deserves

“Miraidon is miraidon”

Zamazenta was only bad because of the overarching problem with pure defensive pokemon. Offense only needs one stat, atk or spatk and maybe spd if you feel jazzy. Defensive or tank mons need to care about hp, def and apdef, 3 stats opposed to just 1. If considering specialisation, 300 in atk is better than 100 in each of the three. Even 150 in atk is better. However stacking defense means nothing against a special attacker. Body press allows zamazenta to use a limited power budget to specialise into a key stat.

1:30 - I can't tell if Zam and Mane doing an animation at the same time there was a coincidence or one of those intentional things where a Pokemon will do their idle "flourish" animation for certain circumstances like Legends Arceus had [such as a 'mon getting "hit" with a move it has an immunity to]

I never realised Zama didn't get body press last gen. That move feels like it was made for Zamazenta.

Good to see my shield dog finally getting recognition

Now imagine if Behemoth Bash used your defense like body press

I was waiting for you to make a video on this. Didnt think you would be this fast tho. Well done as always

Cool, now make Behemoth Bash also use defense instead of attack because it makes as much sense as Zama getting Body Press, idc if that makes it too broken, the second they allowed Mega Ray, Zacian and Calyrex Shadow to exist, they lost the rights to make excuses about a mon being too broken

Dear lord I cant imagine Shuckle having Body Press

I find it crazy that smogon decided to allow Zamazenta crowned in OU the same generation it got access to body press

As someone that doesn't play pokemon it surprised me that the shield pokemon didn't have the move of his typing that did damage with it's defense stat.

Imagine if pokemon ever releases a move that uses spdef for damage calculation and gives Zamazenta both it and the boosting move Cosmic Power. Zamazenta would become a crazy mixed defensive sweeper

Zacian had to step aside for the new sword legendary while Zama finally gets to let his shield shine

The redemption arc is insane

MY BOY. THAT IS MY BOY. WOOOO i mean not get effected by intimidate is great thing to have when that abilities was too good for 2v2