Why The Second Bugatti Veyron was Even Better - ISSIMI Spotlight feat. Jason Cammisa - Ep. 01
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This is a tale of two Veyrons: the original, 1001-hp Veyron 16.4 and Grand Sport were created by Ferdinand Piëch to reclaim his Le Means Mulsanne-Straight top-speed record from Peugeot. But in addition to breaking the 407 km/h record, the chairman of Volkswagen would do it in a luxurious street car.
Then, there was a SECOND Veyron. The 1200-hp models used a completely new carbon tub, new body panels, and had completely different suspension and steering tuning. The Super Sport and the Grand Sport Vitesse look like the original 1001-hp Veyron EB 16.4, until you start comparing them closely. They're actually different cars.
The 1200-hp cars drive more like Lotuses than Veyrons - with great steering, willing handling, and of course, obscene power.
This video is a gorgeous, moving Wikipedia entry on the Veyron, quickly discussing Ettore Bugatti's OCD, his Molsheim castle, Ferdinand Porsche's grandson Ferdinand Piëch, who wanted the Porsche 917's top-speed record back, and insider information Cammisa gleaned from his time with Bugatti engineers - including a story of how the first 1200-hp test car accelerated so quickly that it exploded its A/C compressor. And of course, Loris Bicocchi, who tuned both Veyrons, but who was allowed to have a little more fun on the 1200-hp cars.
The car photographed in this video is the 2012 Super Sport 300 - the 300th, and final, fixed-top Veyron ever produced. (There were 150 open-top cars.) Total production for the Super Sport was just 30 units - just 8 for the U.S. market.
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This very special Veyron is currently offered for sale by ISSIMI - please visit issimi.com for more information on this car.
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Bonus footage at the end: Various iPhone videos from Jason Cammisa's personal archive of what the Veyron's quad-turbocharged W-16 sounds like. The four clips were recorded in the convertible Veyrons - the first two in the 1001-hp Veyron Grand Sport, and then two additional ones in a 1200-hp Veyron Grand Sport Vitesse. The acceleration videos were recorded on closed roads and runways.
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ISSIMI’s “Spotlight” series gives automotive enthusiasts and collectors an in-depth look at rare, interesting, and important cars. “Spotlight” is an editorial wiki video that, first and foremost, provides context, answering the question “why is this car important?”
With his trademark balance of insight and comedy, automotive journalist Jason Cammisa combines the facts with editorial insight, allowing the audience to walk away with a cursory understanding of each featured car. Wherever possible, Spotlight will include driving footage and acceleration footage with high-quality audio to provide a first-person experience of sight, sound, and motion that words alone never could.
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Oh great - now the Internet is calling to tell me what cars I should cover next. So: put your suggestions here! [And thanks for all the love, guys. It means a ton.] 🙏
@marcnobel3938
4 жыл бұрын
VW Corrado would be great. Subaru SVX maybe?
@ss-jr5mk
4 жыл бұрын
Any Koenigsegg and mclaren f1
@blueridgegarage
4 жыл бұрын
Cover whatever vehicle you want, just don't stop making these episodes. That was a great presentation.
@dinirakumara5028
4 жыл бұрын
430 scud
@jithesh51423
4 жыл бұрын
Evo 6
The Veyron and the Chiron are dismissed as "overrated" so often that they are, quite ironically, some of the most underrated cars .
@aidanb1129
4 жыл бұрын
Quacktics are Go they get all this hate because of other hypercars. Take Koenigsegg fans (I’m one myself), they hate in Bugatti to the max, but the truth is these are completely different purposed cars. One of a raw, hard to handle bullet and the other is essentially a 1000hp+ Bentley.
@AYO_KO
4 жыл бұрын
Bugatti was the best early on with the Veyron. Once they broke world records, that Koenigsegg destroyed, people just made it fun to hate Bugatti. They're mad really bc everyone knows that Bugatti has the "It" factor, whether or not they're the fastest anymore.
@friedbaconsizzles
4 жыл бұрын
That's because they haven't ever seen one driven before. I once tried to keep up with a Chiron on I-95 in Philly, I had to do triple digits just to catch up, and it took me in my dinky ass Impreza 15 seconds to do it when it took him 3.
@rmiah
4 жыл бұрын
Best analogy ive heard is that a Koeniggsegg might take you to the same speed as a Bugatti, but the Bugatti is the most comfortable you’d ever be at that speed. Two very different engineering marvels.
@aidanb1129
4 жыл бұрын
virginia creeper watching videos of a Bugatti and koenigsegg at high speeds, you see one is planted and comfortable even at 200mph+ and one throws u around in your seat. Both amazing, but you really can’t compare them. Not to mention Bugatti could go extreme with the backing of Volkswagen group if they wanted to
These have aged well after the Chiron came out
@gqh007
4 жыл бұрын
Josh Amann The first ones kinda look a little dated
@joshamann5921
4 жыл бұрын
@@gqh007 Yeah and color choice really affects the looks of these too
@MyMostBeautifuCinema
4 жыл бұрын
Josh Amann great observation, it can be night and day.
@joshamann5921
4 жыл бұрын
@@MyMostBeautifuCinema this white one looks so good
@paveantelic7876
4 жыл бұрын
True. Veyron L'Or Blanc is one of the most beautiful supercars ever in my opinion
This explains how the top gear test track time improved so much between versions. You can't just shave 2s a lap from just boosting the power!
@muhammedzayan4399
3 жыл бұрын
Even if its a powerlap, 2 secs is a big improvement. Wonder what newer bugs will do..!!
@Obi-WanKannabis
2 жыл бұрын
its 200 hp up, and like 200 kg down. That alone made most of the difference, the nicer handling probably made it more fun to drive than it gave laptime.
@johnhunter7244
2 жыл бұрын
@@Obi-WanKannabis wasn't it 110 lbs / 50kg less?
@R9naldo
9 ай бұрын
@@muhammedzayan4399 The Veyrons handle much better than the Chirons. The Chirons have an estimated max lateral acceleration of 1.0 - 1.2gs of force. The Veyron SuperSport has a confirmed 1.4 g of max lateral acceleration on a skidpad
@Harrappa
Ай бұрын
@@R9naldonot acceleration but cornering. The Chiron is much better.
The sound of the veyron at the end is like the car is legit BREATHING AND ALIVE
@ziqrsx
4 жыл бұрын
Are you saying cars aren't alive, Daniel?
Anyone who hates the Veyron isn’t welcome in my house. That’s a car is a masterpiece.
@joshuatennefrancia1942
4 жыл бұрын
I never Not Liked the Veyyron. "Bugatti for Life."
@samerhussein610
4 жыл бұрын
Chill Gatsby 😂
@Vanilla.coke1234
4 жыл бұрын
I like the veyron, I hate veyron fans
@user-Xx0xxxxx
4 жыл бұрын
I just hate alot of the colors the original veyron came in, but the actual design is masterful
@proelitjump1355
4 жыл бұрын
Its far away from a masterpiece, its overpriced, overrated, looks like and egg and althought its very good on a straight line, its sucks balls in corners.
Love the engineering side feels like a savagegeese episode
@_zigzak
4 жыл бұрын
mikuelable i’d love to savagegeese review a veyron lmao
@Josh-ce9sv
4 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@DearMajesty
4 жыл бұрын
word
@samuelorellana2603
4 жыл бұрын
Just in time since he's recently shortened those segments
@shakke52
2 жыл бұрын
this has so much more emotion
I didn't know that Veyron has haters, that car was ahead of its time!
@FunkTheLaw
2 жыл бұрын
Anything/Anybody that‘s succesful has haters…no matter how good they are
@AmaAndZing
Жыл бұрын
🤡🤡🤡🤡💩💩😂🤣🤣
@AmaAndZing
Жыл бұрын
@@FunkTheLaw no matter how dogshit they are* 🤡🤡🤡💩💩😂😂
Loris is one of the most competent, talentened yet humble and caring people in the industry. Pretty much anything he put his hands on turned out great. It's frankly incredible that someone who started working as a warehouse worker (mind you, at Lamborghini) would end up developing something like the Veyron. Great video Cammisa!
You could literally review a rock and I'll still be interested and who dislike this
This is, by far, one of the best videos from Issimi. Keep pumping out more of this, Jason and the rest of you at Issimi. I think this could've been a part of the Icons series though.
@JasonCammisa
4 жыл бұрын
Thank you! We can't safely film ICONs right now... but we can do these SPOTLIGHT episodes, where I don't have to burn through 5 sets of tires. It's my hope that this gives you enough information where you don't feel like you're missing something. So: thank you! :-D
@subarnosinha8042
4 жыл бұрын
@@JasonCammisa it's cool Jason. Thanks! By the way, what's the name of this alter ego of yours?
@Yaro2
3 жыл бұрын
@@subarnosinha8042 1 year late but the alter ego is named Adam Sandler
Fascinating! And isn’t it funny that Piech was responsible for car commonly referred to as Ze SS...
@tamasszabo8824
4 жыл бұрын
No, it is not funny at all. I believe that this abbreviation was forbidden in Germany for quite a long time.
@LaFritePerreGoat
4 жыл бұрын
@@tamasszabo8824 it can't be used for number plates for exemple. But i d'ont think they never used the abrivation officially anywhere on this bugatti. It's just an internet thing
@tamasszabo8824
4 жыл бұрын
@@LaFritePerreGoat An interesting read: www.dw.com/en/germanys-confusing-rules-on-swastikas-and-nazi-symbols/a-45063547
@Vilius07Kam
4 жыл бұрын
@@tamasszabo8824 Germans always were good guys...communist and USA globalist killed more people...
@Runoratsu
4 жыл бұрын
@Bernd DasBrot As was a certain other failed landscape painter.
I like this series. Definitely looking forward to more.
@ISSIMIOfficial
4 жыл бұрын
More to come! 😉
10-160mph in less than 10 second is nuts!
America: Muscle cars. Volkswagen: Hold my bratwurst.
@OttomanDrifter91
4 жыл бұрын
America: Muscle cars. VW: 'ım gonna destroy this man's whole oxygen deposit
@123excuses
4 жыл бұрын
@@OttomanDrifter91 :D aynen diesel gate ama evde insignia cdti yatıyor ya da 19 yaşında amsterdamda bisiklet sürüyorsun
@OttomanDrifter91
4 жыл бұрын
@@123excuses dieselgate ayrı tabi ama benim asıl kastım bu makine bir ailenin aylık hava tüketimini 20 dakikada hiç ediyor :D
@kutlachakela
4 жыл бұрын
English children
@c-028
4 жыл бұрын
Ford GT: Hold my beer.
This is a Doug Demuro video with stereoids, and I love it!
@victoralley708
4 жыл бұрын
Way better than a Doug "quirks and features" Demuro video
@BlueRidgePhantom
4 жыл бұрын
Doug got nothing on this. Presentation is outstanding (entertaining).
@zabimaru1593
4 жыл бұрын
May I recommend Savagegeese to you, dear sir.
@S8ER
4 жыл бұрын
Doug is awful to watch...no comparison.
@BlueRidgePhantom
4 жыл бұрын
@@S8ER I agree
You gotta give some credit to VW when it comes to these things. I couldn't imagine GM, Ford or Toyota pulling off something like this just for shits and giggles.
@zockheem
4 жыл бұрын
What do you think the Ford GT40, MOPAR wing cars, and HEMI Dart were. They were all record breaking cars.
@Josh-ce9sv
4 жыл бұрын
@@zockheem You are joking right? Record breaking 60 years ago compared to relative lawnmowers.
@Josh-ce9sv
4 жыл бұрын
VR5, VR6, W8, W12, W16, V10 TDI...and the list goes on and on and on...
@joeleonard9965
4 жыл бұрын
@@zockheem I completely get the sentiment, there have been many american greats. But there has never been something on a Veyron level, or Koenigsegg level. Both of those manufacturers never even raced those models in competition. It's purely an engineering dick measuring contest, and the results can be amazing.
@BlueRidgePhantom
4 жыл бұрын
For some reason VW Group didn't mind losing money for this. GM and Ford would never lose this much money to make any car. So... yeah, credit given where is due.
Cammisa makes the best car videos, period.
Americans really say Peugeot like Poojoe??
@johndc2998
19 күн бұрын
Canadians too I've seen
@jedediahdane5458
2 күн бұрын
Pew Goat
This was SO OVERDUE! Thank you for finally giving this car it’s due.. I definitely learned a few things, and as usual, you conveyed all that info in an entertaining manner that made it really fun to watch. Good work!
Jason, you are my car idol. If I was a kid, there would be a Jason Cammisa poster in my room (probably next to a Scirocco lol). I love and appreciate that you’re putting out such great content. Always refreshing and insightful, jovial and genuine; you’re the best automotive “face” enthusiasts could hope for.
I had no idea how different the two veyrons are. Great stuff! This is the kind of informative content we need, keep it up Jason. Love you, man.
Bugatti builds planes from the road. That’s the best way I can explain the engineering, performance, and price to people.
@einar8019
4 жыл бұрын
i mean koenigsegg tests and builds their cars on an old air force base
I remember you, Jason, in head 2 head. The episode of the LFA and the MP4-12C. That is my favorite.
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa More Jason!! Thank you, thank you, thank you for posting more content Jason. You are an inspiration for aspiring car lovers worldwide. Salutations from remote Romania!
@JasonCammisa
4 жыл бұрын
Thank you! And stay safe!
you can expect pretty much anything from JC, but I wasn't ready for that phone call
Bicocchi crying from relief that someone outside the company finally appreciated his work is the sweetest reaction I have ever heard.
Jason's alter-ego calling from West Hollywood....
@troyarmstrong434
4 жыл бұрын
The most hilarious thing I've never heard.
@shouldigetit
4 жыл бұрын
Best comment from the best username
Oh that development story is amazing and emotional...
This channel is quickly becoming my favorite car channel.
This is Jason at his best. Only he can be so intimately informative and exquisitely entertaining at the same time! So good to find you again on KZread! Your french "english accent" is spot on Signore Cammisa!
The storytelling in this video is beautiful, i’ve never been a fan of the Veyron but always appreciated what it could do and what it did for the cars that came after it. Watching this gave me a new appreciation I never had before, brilliant
The SS veyron has really grown on me in recent years. The rear end with the dual rear wing is to die for
Man I’m looking forward to the next installment of this series!
For those who have the chance to enjoy the Veyron SS as a mid-engine supercar, nice
One of if not the best video of the Veyron out there right now. Long live ISSIMI!
Loved this video! I have never heard about all those differences between the two!
Amazing, I'd love to hear how you think the Chiron stacks up. Also It'd be great to do a piece of Ferdinand Piech. Flawed as he was, the man was a mechanical and business genius (plus I'd love to hear more about the development of the Phaeton).
Simply brilliant video! We want more Jason!
Thanks for producing these great videos for us while we are confined to our homes! You are by far the best car journalist out there!
Amazing video! Please please do more of these. But maybe adjust the audio levels a bit? This video is really really quiet.
Brilliant content - keep it coming.
This was a great video, I hope you guys continue to make stuff like this!
awesome work! hope to see more of these types of videos.
I click on like before I play watching these.
An amazing presentation.
Jason this was like the best episode you have ever ever done! I’m so sorry I didn’t see it sooner. Presumably, this work helped you seal the deal w/ Hagerty. Your first hand experience and authenticity - as always - differentiate. However this is such an iconic machine that consensus seems to have really miss understood, me included. Thx! 🌈
I feel so slighted that Jason has been here a year ago yet I'm just now finding out. Top notch quality and entertainment each and every time. We want more!
Another amazing video content from you Jason.. i'm shocked every time i watch your videos, didn't think it could get better, but it can.. i' ve said it before and i going to say it again THE BEST AUTOMOTIVE PRESENTER there is! 👍
@JasonCammisa
4 жыл бұрын
Thank you! :)
*We would love to see Jason Camissa and Johnny Lieberman together on a show*
@ALMX5DP
4 жыл бұрын
Sameer where have you been? Jason left MT where he cohosted with Jonny for a number of years.
@jaba67
4 жыл бұрын
@@ALMX5DP preeeetty sure it's sarcasm
@sameer4526
4 жыл бұрын
@@ALMX5DP Yes we want that back !!
@sameer4526
4 жыл бұрын
@@ALMX5DP Really mean it! On screen chemistry is amazing when these 2 guys get together on an episode
Great Video! Well explained history a lot of people never heard of I guess. The Turbo Noises are really sweet!
top video , one of the best I see in car reviews ! Great man!!
Great video! The Veyron is great, I hope you eventually get to drive the Chiron!
The SS WRE is the ultimate Veyron in my opinion.
Why have I just stumbled on this now! I’ve missed getting my honest and intriguing car reviews from Jason for so long. ❤️❤️❤️
I love this, i hope you're making more of these.
..."faster than a Boeing....at take-off" is such deceptive wordplay. I'm more graceful than a ballerina squatting on a toilet
@CAL1MBO
4 жыл бұрын
"faster than a fighter jet sitting still at the end of the runway"
@improcrastinating8063
4 жыл бұрын
What he's saying is if engineers hadn't ensured it had neutral or negative lift, it could take off near top speed and crash catastrophically
@mydickisincrediblytinyandi7380
4 жыл бұрын
@@CAL1MBO This comment and your profile picture reminded me of when topgear raced the veyron against the Jet fighter lol
@PaddyMcMe
3 жыл бұрын
I think you've misunderstood his point, it's about how impressive it is that the Veyron reaches far greater speeds than are enough for an enormous 161 Tonne 787 Dream Liner to actually take flight. Where as I think you took it as him comparing the Veyron's top speed to the Boeing's top speed. Which I agree, would be a silly comparison.
@hexagon6922
2 жыл бұрын
I guess what he’s alluding to is that the presenter added the “...at takeoff!” like it would be something even more special but really it’s the slowest phase of a flight
Why the second Veyron is even better Me: ....because its the second Veyron?
@justat1149
4 жыл бұрын
Noel Jacob Veyron 2: Electric Boogaloo
Thanks for another great video, Jason!
This was amazing! I hope there are more because this was fantastic. Great insight
what color is your bugatti
I dont really like the veyron, but i admire its achievements, and i really admire the hard engineering that went into making it. Glad it exists.
It's the only car I've ever seen to accelerate from a rolling start as quickly as a superbike. Brutal!
Jason, love you! Issimi, love you! All(!) of you content, love it! Please never stop and if possible DO MORE
@2:45 is incorrect. The list of requirements that the engineers quit was for the Phaeton, not Veyron, as he wanted, and did build the best car in the world. Test bed for, and superior to, (other than turbos) the Bentley. ;)
@BlueRidgePhantom
4 жыл бұрын
Regardless, two masterpieces.
I know Vitesse is a French word and all, but it just sounds like the model name for a womens bicycle
@jsquared1013
4 жыл бұрын
It means "speed".
Well done! I like how this has great production, is extremely informative, and a little technical, yet allows the host to show his personality. But, most importantly, the host isn't there because of his personality - he's there because he's had the schooling, done the work and earned the spot through the car world and keeps earning it by going heavy on the history and details. (But, seriously, Jason, in one of the shots we can see you need some sleep - don't work too hard and get rest!)
This was an excellent video for a car geek and Bugatti fan like me. I never knew how much better the 1200hp cars were. Not to mention great acceleration footage at the end!
But one thing remains same for me Can't afford then Can't afford now: lol
Weirdly enough, he looks like Adam Sandler.
Jason! u are doing such amazeing job! i love details like this! keep it coming!
The bonus footage....awesome!
0:21 was this his subtle way of coming out??
@maxderay
4 жыл бұрын
That piqued my gaydar too. Turns out he's gay and out but not vocal about it. Sounds about right from most gay car guys I know.
@WorldwideHypercars
3 жыл бұрын
Max that’s better for me then
It's still the aesthetic antithesis of an E-type.
This was great. No suggestions for what to cover next as I'd rather just be surprised by something I'd never think of. Just wanted to say its so refreshing to see a video that looks at a car in depth but in a way no one else does. Facts and figures are boring, the stories you tell mixed with the tech explanations you offer make for a truly great experience
Best video on the channel so far! More like this please!
Why does the veryon seats say “SUPER SPORT 300”?? Anybody??? 9:50
@Tom-jt5nf
4 жыл бұрын
This specific car is the Veyron Super Sport "300 Edition" as it was the 300th and final Veyron Coupe (16.4 and Super Sport) built.
@Josmersuero
4 жыл бұрын
The last Veyron coupe ever made.
Great insight. Had no idea. Keep it coming!
Jason you are killing it, one of the better car related videos ive seen in the last time
Enjoyed your R&T piece on the Veyron SS. Enjoy this video even more, great job Jason.
Very good series with one of the best automotive journalists. Masterpiece!
This video has taught me more about the 1200bhp car than I ever knew. I never knew they changed THAT MUCH on it! I really appreciate this video!
Great info. Super knowledge. Great show. Thank you.
People say that the first impression it's really important, and this is the first video I watch and I just subscribed and I'm sure many others have done the same and many more will do it as well, great job guys.
Best production in this field. I just love your videos man. I like the attention to details in the research as well. Second to none. Well done. This is a treat. Now I want to buy a Veyron… I need to figure this out 😏
Liked and Fav'd for the extra footages!
What a Great episode , cant wait for the next one 💪
This video was better than expected 10/10
I really don't care about which car you do next. Just put this development stories about how it came to be!! Loved the video Jason! Thanks a lot!
Awesome stuff bro . This channel is awesome.
Why can't I like this video more than once.. the knowledge of the presenter and the production value is simply superb !!!
This episode is epic. Great presentation. Comedy within a documentary! Well done!
Thanks for all your work Jason...you da man.
This was excellent. Thank you, Jason & crew! I was not aware that there were any meaningful differences in character between the "generations" of Veyron, so this was quite interesting. Also, Loris Bicocchi seems like someone who would be fascinating to have a good long conversation with! He must have some fascinating stories and I would love to pick his brain about suspension tuning.
@energymc22
Жыл бұрын
You will find his stories on an Italian language channel "Davide Cironi Drive Experience", thankfully with English subs
thanks for this video. it was beautiful
JASON u. r. Among the best automotive journalist in the history of cars. truly charming,characterful,creative & insightful! never stop! great show
This is the best ...'Well-description of this car I've ever seen. Jason Cammisa certainly knows his stuff. I think I'd better subscribe. Cheers.
Simply the best and most entertaining automotive journalist!
Nice to see a Jason Cammisa video again!
Thanks for the content