Love your reviews. You remind me of the early days of Top Gear, before they got silly and only drove supercars. You contextualize what it's really like to drive fun cars in a normal situation. Maybe you should get on Top Gear and bring some normalcy back!?

@FOXHOUND4143

2 жыл бұрын

HEAR HEAR!

@murrieteacher

2 жыл бұрын

A very different type of people watch Top Gear. More interested in entertainment than what cars do.

@jamessutton8463

2 жыл бұрын

I prefer these videos to top gear nowadays, top gear ain’t about cars anymore.

I own a 991.2 Targa 4 GTS and think it's a dream. Your review of the 992 is a bit harsh, but I actually think the 991.2 is a little better. I agree with the criticism of the design of the shifter, and the 991.2 gauges are actually better - more analog in style with better visibility. Another commenter remarked that the exhaust on the 991.2 is better, which i agree with - it seems to crackle a bit more. Furthermore, I think I can appreciate the Targa more since I drive it in Florida weather after moving it from the Northeast where the weather is more like England. But if the weather is a little chilly, I would recommend driving top down with the heated seats on! I wouldn't even consider a Jaguar or Mercedes SL since they are both cabriolets, and not Targas. The Targa is the best of both worlds which is what makes it unique - with the top down, it offers more wind protection than a convertible, and the glass rear window looks nicer with better visibility. They style of the Targa is stunning. The Ferrari you compared it to is a different animal - more expensive, and not exactly a daily driver, which the Targa definitely is (at least in Florida). Keep up the good work with the reviews.

@nkonzosmagalela3003

2 жыл бұрын

Totally agree and especially that part of Ferrari vs Targa is just incomparable, Ferrari is a monster and into another league.

@scundoorsup5342

Жыл бұрын

I have been offered double for what I paid for my 2022 Targa 4

@user-my4xu4gf1z

7 ай бұрын

Can u buy a 2023 991.2 or is it an older model

Very cool car, and big props to Porsche for keeping on sending you cars with your very honest reviews!!

@julianevans9548

2 жыл бұрын

Yup, massively impressed with Jayemm's honesty regarding that shambles of an interior - when do you ever hear journalists having a go at Porsche like that? And fair play for Porsche for still sending him the car (as he'd already shredded the 992 in his original review).

@arnehurnik

2 жыл бұрын

Sounds to me like the final verdict here is "get a RWD GTS convertible".

@shakeelmowla1608

Жыл бұрын

It’s not honesty, it’s prejudice and he’s wrong.

I've had a 991.2 Targa 4S since 2020 which I'm very pleased with. I chose this model rather than the 992 because in my eyes it's a much more cohesive design and has buttons for the important functions rather than a touch screen, also no PPF which wrecks the exhaust sound. Having watched many videos where the reviewer complains about the wind buffeting it seems they all have one thing in common- driver height! If you are very tall or have a long torso this will put your ears in a position where the deflector won't work properly. You can mitigate this by choosing the 4-way seats which at their lowest setting are a full 5cm lower than the 18-way versions. As for the redundant rear badging, that was the first thing to go.

@Baerchenization

2 жыл бұрын

Badge delete is one of the two free Porsche options :)

I’m fortunate to have both a 992 Targa GTS and a 992 GT3. My personal take on the Targa is almost the reverse of this review. The power train is not a patch on the GT3, it’s laggy in both engine and gearbox response compared to the GT3. However, the Targa buffeting is no real issue because it only appears at certain speeds, which you aren’t at for very long. I have not found it a problem and much prefer the Targa to the convertible. Pace is good and the 992 interior I prefer to the 991 (I had 3 of those). It’s nicer to look at, feels more modern and although I agree with the old cup holder being great, I don’t have drinks in the car! The 992 cup holder works as a convenient store for coins and nik-naks. The Targa GTS is a great daily but not enough of a sports car compared to say a 997 GTS which I had a few years ago. The Carrera line lost a lot when it went turbo IMO.

@Diirk

Жыл бұрын

The cup holder can be replaced with a much better looking key holder. In my 992, this replacement part was in the glove box.

@Chigchigg

Жыл бұрын

What is the speed range you’re talking about? Been reading about 911.2 having it bad anytime above 50

@Smllc22318

5 ай бұрын

Wow dude sounds like you have a lot of 911’s

@F3PIZZA

4 ай бұрын

@@Smllc22318 He must be super old or really fat ig. Maybe a complicated health condition.

My 992 Targa GTS arrived a couple of weeks ago and I couldn't be happier! Keep the great videos coming!

@ftboomer1

2 жыл бұрын

Nice! I got the keys for my Boxster GTS last month.

I have never met anyone who despises a Targa.

I have owned a Porsche for the last 10 years and took delivery of a fully loaded 2022 Targa 4S , 7 speed standard with 135 miles on it when delivered 3 weeks ago......the car is a dream to own and drive.

Having lived with the new 992 daily for 2 years .... - I can say that the gear stick is a work of haptic genius - can flick it into reverse without even looking & back into drive again.

Great content, keep up the good work! I owned a 996 targa back in the days and I must admit besides it flaws I loved it. Later on i upgraded to a 997.2 S and it’s with me ever since. I believe the Targa is more of a Engineering showpiece and don’t have any significance in overall sales. I tried the 991 and 992 but I wasn’t sold on it. However marvelous car !!!

We’re a similar age and I’ve always had a soft spot for the targa don’t know why just more drama i guess! Great review as always 👍

Great review, it’s all about preference that’s why I’ve got a 992 targa 4s and I absolutely love it

Correction: The Targa variants of the GTS trims do not have HELPER SPRINGS. The suspension system in the Targas are exacty the same as the S variants (with SPASM).

Judging by your review, the 992 isn’t the car for you. It’s a sports car first. The Jag and Merc are comfy ass warmers which, I believe, suits you best. I certainly intend no offense. I’m a 992 Targa owner and I wouldn’t trade for any other. There are some minor inconveniences but if you love driving cars, you’ll easily look past them

@jeffingber4407

Жыл бұрын

I'll second that. My 992 Targa GTS is the best 911 I've had and I've had them since my 1st Targa in 1973.

@chazonyoo

Жыл бұрын

what are the minor inconveniences?

@aviator-kn8zq

Жыл бұрын

he's just negative for his style. He stands out to the other more fun and positive youtubers.

@artgreen6915

Жыл бұрын

What about those rattles he describes, especially the one with the roof up?

Came across your videos recently after your video with shmee. Really loving the content. Informative and interesting

Love the commentary on form over function. I had/ have (still for sale…) a 991.1 C2S exceptional to drive and beautifully functional

I always said (since I knew what a targa was) that if I was to have a Porsche, it would have to have a Targa top, love the way they look, roof up or down, don’t like full convertibles, also why I love the MX-5 RF too, and I like something that’s different to an always-roofed vehicle

I love the modern targa (the one I’d buy if funds would allow)however I despise the current trend of putting black wheels on cars, looks utterly shite.

@davidclarke5238

2 жыл бұрын

Black wheels look decent on a Mustang or a Supra and that's about it...

@mikemartin6790

2 жыл бұрын

At least you don’t have to clean them!

@otacon5648

2 жыл бұрын

Black wheels are a 2012 thing to do to a car, looks crap now.

Very honest review. Good to see, unlike most who give a car manufacturer getting nothing but praise even if there are flaws. Constructive criticism, how else do things get changed/made better if they think it's perfect when maybe it's not.

I really liked that you found all sorts of real flaws in the 992: the buffeting, too heavy steering (which is not adjustable), all the different rattles, the terrible ergonomics of the window switches, how uncomfortably large the car is now, etc). The vast majority of other channels only point out the positive aspects.

What Review can we expect from someone who never wanted to give a car any chance to prove itself? A man who cares so much about his work that he didn't find the wind deflector himself, gives us false information about the lowering, and whines because of the stiff steering in a sports car. Another example is when you talk about opening the roof. The park distance control is standard on every 992 Targa, it checks the space behind the car before you try to open or close the roof. If there are less than 50 centimeter as space, it will not open. And let me tell you something, you may find it a little bit disturbing, but there is a button with a "P" on it in the center control, and "P" stands for parking, so, if you press it, your will turn on your handbrake. The handbrake button is only there to release the brake, but it releases automatically as soon as you shift into reverse or drive. I own a 911 Targa 4 GTS and I use it as a daily driver beside my Audi RS Q8 and I really don't understand what you are talking about for 33 minutes. I think you don't understand what the Targa is all about. You can drive it perfectly open on a day with less sun and only 10 degrees plus, just turn the heated seats on. Driving a Targa is like driving an 80's/90's convertible, it is more noisy, it is more windy...it is more pure, so what?

@jeffingber4407

Жыл бұрын

Not a word about the handling. Will beat the balls off a Jag or Benz.

@shakeelmowla1608

Жыл бұрын

Agree with your post and an accurate rebuttal. I find the sycophancy from his fans, especially ones who will never get a chance to try one of these cars out, quite a sad thing.

Very nice car. For me it would be that SL or just the regular convertible. Fantastic review. Keep up the good work.

I absolutely love that! I’ve become increasingly drawn to Porsche and love them from all eras. I think a targa is lovely whichever age of model it is.

@barry5138

2 жыл бұрын

I'm drawn as well mate. Bank account is very long drawn I'm afraid

Targa came into its own in 991. My favourite in the sub GT category. They are the looker.

I agree that the 992 Targa 4 GTS is on paper one of the nicest and best Porsches to get today. I have always thought the Targa is one of the best looking and most desirable Porsches. However having a 991.1 4S Convertible myself and having just spent a week with a 992 4S Targa, I have changed my mind. The Targa is nice to look at, but the Convertible experience is better, both from a useability and diversity perspective, but most importantly from an open driving experience. I thought the Targa added a lot of wind noise compared to the Convertible. In addition, the 992 4S (and I am sure the GTS) is a very fast car with great acceleration, but I prefer the naturally aspirated sound and driving experience of my 991.1 (4S).

Lint moat - genius. Love your work. Keep mixing up new cars and old school.

Appreciate the honesty in your review. Only about 1 of 4 car reviewers on KZread mention the buffeting issue. I can't trust most reviewers because they only praise cars rather than giving the viewers both the positives and negatives.

“The public approval is through the roof” An unintended pun, or just glided over with utmost slickness?

Thanks Jay you’ve just helped make my mind up

“Lint moat” great term. A refreshingly frank review on a 911 excellent stuff love the video 👍

I’ve always been confused about what the Targa offers, thanks for finally explaining it in simple terms!

@artgreen6915

Жыл бұрын

What's confusing about it? There are lots of videos showing exactly how the mechanism works, and thus the 2 configurations of the car. It's I think the heaviest 911 body style. Roof down, the rear glass is an air bucket vulnerable to buffet, so you do need to use the wind deflector and potentially tweak side windows as Jay did. It's only available in 4WD. The Target GTS is slightly softer than other GTS. Rear visibility is better than a cabriolet with roof up due to the amount of rear glass. That's really what you need to know.

992 Targa 4 GTS manual would be the dream

@frankb7449

2 жыл бұрын

nah, the PDK dual clutch is so much better... I only drove manuals my whole life until i got a 991.2 Targa with PDK... it shifts faster and smoother than any manual, and will hit 60 about 1/2 second faster...

@Suprahampton

2 жыл бұрын

@@frankb7449 not about faster, it's about the feeling of engagement

Very comprehensive, very helpful. 👍🏽

The 911 Targa 4S is my dream car! Love the looks and the sound. Homerun for Porsche yet again!

I didn't get all of what you were saying, but you're a true talent in speaking. Nice one, mate 💎👏🏼

9:50 they actually did make a targa turbo for the 930 3.3L generation from 88-89

Another great review. I would pick the Jag too. Although we do have dealer support issues with that brand too in Australia.

I wonder if the engineers at Porsche give a sigh of disappointment when they see the final car after all the other departments have added their bits...the touchscreen dept, the button dept, the cupholder dept etc etc....

excellent video - closing in on 250K subs!

Tiff Needell summed it up well in his review of the 992 Targa when he advised you’re betting off buying the cabriolet

Really helpful review; thank you. I have watched several KZread reviews of this car and this is the most objective. I now need to take a decision on whether or not to get one.

Jayemm, Porsche made a targa turbo in the aircooled days of the late 80's. In fact, the last 5 turbos to roll off the line in 1989 were targas. Production then switched to the 964.

@JovanKorica1

2 жыл бұрын

Interesting

My father had a 2008 997 Targa 4S for 10 years. That car had no problems and was good for many smiles :)

I test drove a 992 as I felt deserved a big birthday present, to replace my 997. I hated it for the same reasons as James. So I bought a late 991.2 convertible, which can be driven really fast with the roof down & no buffeting. The sport response button is addictive, but can seldom be enjoyed in UK, good fun on an autobahn though

The new Targa GTS looks fantastic if I could afford one this is probably the model I would get most reviews for this car are good

I wonder what you would say to a 991 Targa? It offers pretty much the same roof design and wow factor as you said, but a lot of negatives you mentioned about the 992 design, size, interior layout would not effect it. Would be an interesting comparison.

Hi Jay Great honest review , did you had the chance to drive the 992gts manual 911? Any change to share this review in the near future

Will you do the 992 Turbo S soon? You said you drove it in the 992 GT3 review, would love a video on it!

@christophebrou1178

2 жыл бұрын

Same.I‘m surprised that we didn’t get a review!

I love and have loved every 911 since 1970, the 992 just falls short and just seems like we’ll never get a good 911 again. Even the 996 is more appealing. You also nailed everything I don’t like about the 992. Not seeing that beautiful bonnet silhouette was the final straw as well. Can’t see the wings anymore. Sad, sad, sad. And let’s not even get into that horrendous rear end and epic interior failure. Going to keep my 991.2 until I die or until Gavin Newsome takes it away.

The Targa GTS doesn't get the Turbo suspension like the Carrera GTS. It's got its own softer Targa suspension.

Absolutely brilliant video

You turn on the heated seats, turn on the heated steering wheel, and also set the heater to both top and bottom vents. And you are as cosy and warm. The top vents heat my hands and the down vents heat my feet - and my back is heated also. And my palms. Also the car rear window won’t open if there is a car or wall behind you. I have owned a 2021 Targa 4 and no rattles or squeaks anywhere - solid as a rock.

Realistically if you want a thrilling daily driver that works properly over a long period. Porsche is where its at and i think this is my favourite Porsche ever, it may have its flaws and may not be the most involved drive or set the quickest lap time but as an overall package i think this is just stunning.

I saw one these today in morning traffic and thought wow..... that looks good !

I love the Targa, it's such an Oddity - but a Functional oddity.

Very good review to listen to as a Porsche enthusiast who can't afford one... Yet. I have always found the targa to be the odd one of the 911's and this review proves to me that it would not be the right 911 nor Porsche to buy if I could.

You're one of my favorite car reviewers, but I wish you would put the model year of the car you're reviewing in either the title or description.

Android auto was not in the car because Google was snooping too much. Google finally changed. Also...love your objective reviews. I think the 992 interior is so much better than older models . My 992Targa4S arrives at the end of July!

The targa does not have the helper springs and runs the standard PASM instead of the -10 mm sport PASM

That last 500rpm makes it sound like an NA 997.

I feel like the best spec for a targa would be the base maybe with sport exhaust. The GTS is a bit like GT3 lite and the Targa undoes a lot of the GTS’ sportiness.

@Baerchenization

2 жыл бұрын

A targa in a custom colour :) I would love one in Brit racing green, I think it would nicely contrast with the brushed aluminium roll bar.

Thanks J, looks different enough to be interesting compared to the other 911s. Roof design seems over complicated.

I have essentially this same car except 991.2 and a manual. It’s amazing.

I have a 1973 Targa (first RHD Targa). The roof folds up and goes into the front of the trunk (frunk), an area that is not too much use for any luggage.

I don't understand how car interior designers keep forgetting that a lot of controls need to be intuitive and easy to distinguish without looking at them. I mean, I know they're trying to make it all look as sleek and modern as possible and knobs and buttons don't really fit that design brief but knobs and buttons are the best peripherals for a lot of jobs.

@eze8970

2 жыл бұрын

I agree, I can only think the interior designers are 'tech' and 'office' based, without being 'drivers/function based' if that makes sense. Another point may be the Accountants tell them these systems have to be used as they're cheaper?

I do love the look of the new Targas, I had an original 1972 Targa that I loved, but similar issues with rattling and buffeting but you forgave all this because it was an old car, no excuses for Porsche here in 2022.

Terrific review. Like your points made. 911's. Of the many sporrtscar makers out there Porsche oddly is the only one with a model that has I believe about 23 versions of . All with just minor changes...mostly....just to get more 911's sold. Really only need 2 models of 911. The Carrera S or the Turbo S. THe Carrera S with a convertible model.. I belive there is one. Forget. The idea of the Targa seems like a good one. Having that "Targa pillar" I think adds to the look. But in use....as you mention ...the roof when closed or open sounds like a pain. Not soemthing you'd want in car you spent so much money on. YOu dont want any rattling noises or wind turbulence inside the car. Which you dont get with the convertible. Not sure if you "hear the roof" on a convertible. But at least there's no turbulence. Plus, with a convertible when the top is down you'd only do so under the right driving conditions e.g. around town...not on the highways. So if you want the open top expereince its still the convertible. Which onestly how often do you really drive top down.? Maybe if you can afford it get a coupe and a covertible? Turbo S for the GT like drive and the amazing 0-60 in under 3s fun Though I'm guessing that fun will get boring fast. So I guess at the end of the day if you're looking for your first 911....the Carrera S coupe is IT. Gives you engouh of a taste of what a 911 can do and is the more "affordable" of the 23 models. YOu DO want to feel the tail pitching....that's a Porsche 911. :) If you get the Carrera 4s I think you're changing the "Porsche experience".. taking away from... All these options to make a 911 drive less like a "911". GT3? Cash-grab. Unneeded for street driving. If you're a competitive amateur road racer (on track) you'll buy a used 911 and out fit it for racing. Not a new 911.

I believe porsche should make the roof operation manual, that way it would shave a ton of weight and become more driver focused. Besides there is always the 911 cabriolet for the people more concerned with style or comfort of an auto roof

Usually modern Porsches have a tire "comfort pressure" setting that you can set inside the menu. I forget which automotive magazine put out the article(Road & Track or Car & Driver or something), but they reached out to Porsche and they responded with the comfort pressures actually being what Porsche tests and designs their cars to use. The standard pressures are for very high-speed/high load safety. 3bar/40psi is WAY too high for a sports car anyhow for either grip or comfort

I've got a 991.2 RWD GTS and I can't agree more at how scary fast these cars are - I have no business having that much car on public roads..

@thomasferrarojr.9772

2 жыл бұрын

Especially with an APR tune. Ridiculously fast.

Thank you for this review. I was looking strongly at this Targa until watching your review. It's not the everyday driver I want it to be.

Roof has safety mechanism. Will stop before hitting anything.

Lint moat. Braun shaver. Pure brilliance. Thank you for the laugh.

That sound ❤️

A Very clear and no punch pulled review of what for me is some way out of my financial league. However, the increased size of the 911 gives me another excuse for not owning one and a little smile when I can relish open top driving in my little 997.2 cabriolet without steering setting quandaries.

The mx5 roof works the same way but it’s better. But you still get wind noise in any targa. The best open roof was the electric sunroof on seventies 911 cars, small but in front of your head. It made the ventilation work too. The interior, well its a vw so it’s bound to be a total mess.

Love my 991.1 targa gts (manual)

I always thought it was the pick of the line-up.. you've altered my perception. I can take it of the list.

Yep found exactly that wind issue and bought an AMG instead.

Thanks!

Great looking car, don’t like those black panels in front the back wheels. They would look much better in the body colour! Ruins the line of the car

A Porsche 911 for the road should be a manual. The End.

Walk into a dealer and buy,yes ,but 2 year wait list

Everyone knows the targa is the coolest

To me the 992 Targa looks great, but… And this video captures that better than I can.

I like the targa mechanism but the dash and rest of interior has got to go!

It came with a vinyl cover for the folded top ad it fit in either the forward boot or behind the seats

Targa is style achievement YET cab is way to go really. Kids in back seat of Targa suffer vs cab, and gals I know don’t find it open enough. 991 began first time cab up/closed had good attractive lines vs coupe. 997 n 996 cabs are good but top up they are not in same league for beauty as coupe. No one I’ve known has expressed negatives on Targa, black targa hoop is a major downgrade for its style though.

Nice looking car but touch screen menus for major physical controls you need to select quickly are a no-no in a fast car like this and much of the ergonomics are a total train crash. Gear selector is a joke: What clown in Stuttgart thought this was a good design? Good vid though Jay. 👍🏻

i think id have to get it lowered and put a better exhaust on it then in my opinion, spot on perfecvt!

Such a shame the 911 is so big now, it's all about the Cayman/Boxster now I guess 🥰

I'll never own one however the targas are often my favourite 911 style.

Okay tire pressure. Read the manual. The reason for the air pressure is that in the settings you can set the sensors to “comfort tire pressure” much less in fact than the pressure numbers on the door frame. If you want to run the max pressure on the door frame you set the sensor to monitor those pressure settings. If you prefer more comfort on the road change the setting for the pressure to monitor to the comfort setting. Then the dashboard monitoring system will use these lower pressure numbers. Your car is likely set to the comfort tire settings rather than the maximum door frame numbers.

LOL. I have a 992, and those shiny bits of black plastic down the side of the gear lever are greasy fingerprint magnets. Also, I thought it was because I'm a short a**e, that I struggled to see the fuel gauge, I always assume I am at fault, not the car, so that's good to know. The gear ratio seems to be a little more 'motorway boring' friendly than the 991, the 992 does 70Mph at lower revs, so maybe it's an MPG thing? I'm no expert, so just speculating.

26:52 you'd want it in its down position when you are parked top down, that's why..

The cup holder looks like it was borrowed from an Iveco van!😂😂😂😂

The targa does wonders for your hair-do mate - you should keep it! 😁👍 -and thank you for *actually critiquing* the car despite the Porsche badge that seems to blind most other automotive journalists.

Despised? I thought people loved the Targa.

I totally agree about your comments on the 992. The interior is a mess and totally form over function. I had a 992 cabrio when they first came out - kept it for just under 12 months and traded it in for a 991.2 Targa GTS. It’s the Goldilocks 911 !

@CountLaszlo

Жыл бұрын

The 991 and 991.2 is the last 911 if not the best one they made. I absolutely loath the 992. First 911 in my entire life of 51 I didn’t like from day one. It’s now 3 years later and I still don’t like anything about it. Even when I try to convince myself. Just isn’t going to ever happen.

This is the first time I've seen the Targa roof in operation and ... and .... it's ... it's the same as in my Mazda MX5 RF!!!