Why The Original Tony Hawk's Pro Skater Trilogy Is Worst On Nintendo 64

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This week on Under10Hours, we take a look at the original Tony Hawk's Pro Skater trilogy on Nintendo 64 and why they're considered the worst way to experience the classics. For a series as beloved as this, these ports are never considered as good as the rest, and we dig into why there are serious issues with all of them in unique ways.
This is why the original Tony Hawk's Pro Skater trilogy is worst on Nintendo 64.
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  • @Post_Leako
    @Post_Leako3 жыл бұрын

    is that little rant you did about Dead Kennedys why you never sing at all the karaoke things we've been to

  • @Under10Hours

    @Under10Hours

    3 жыл бұрын

    You bet it is

  • @aidanklobuchar1798

    @aidanklobuchar1798

    3 жыл бұрын

    I your coworkers can't appreciate some Dead Kennedys in their karaoke parties, get better coworkers.

  • @Crayolapup

    @Crayolapup

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yikes

  • @thesteammachine1282

    @thesteammachine1282

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Under10Hours From pure curiosity , does the n64 include the level editor? I remember having the ps1 version and it had a 3d map builder.

  • @shyguy85

    @shyguy85

    9 ай бұрын

    ​@@thesteammachine1282it does i think

  • @bondedwithpotatoes0076
    @bondedwithpotatoes00763 жыл бұрын

    Funny how the last N64 game was one of the launch titles for Gamecube.

  • @Under10Hours

    @Under10Hours

    3 жыл бұрын

    Haha the circle of life

  • @dugger0

    @dugger0

    3 жыл бұрын

    Same thing with the WiiU and Switch

  • @bondedwithpotatoes0076

    @bondedwithpotatoes0076

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@G.Freeman92 The VERY LAST game? Sure, one of the final ones, but not THE EXACT LAST game.

  • @thejoanz

    @thejoanz

    3 жыл бұрын

    I played the crap out of some thps3 on the cube. LOVED IT. I know this is your channel under10 but holy moly you know how to complain lol

  • @BoneCK15

    @BoneCK15

    3 жыл бұрын

    Is it funny or did you just want people to know that you know that?

  • @michaelburke7978
    @michaelburke79783 жыл бұрын

    I was so pissed when we didn't get THPS3 on the Dreamcast :(

  • @retropulse03

    @retropulse03

    3 жыл бұрын

    Had I not been hellbent on getting a Gamecube for Christmas that year, I would have been as well. THPS 1 and 2 were some of my most played Dreamcast games.

  • @darksynbios.i.1623

    @darksynbios.i.1623

    3 жыл бұрын

    @Paul Bell Not really, back then every company can still release news games till 2009 before GD Production ends like happen in japan when came out new games from DC till 2007.

  • @dilated2020

    @dilated2020

    3 жыл бұрын

    you probably didn't know the dreamcast was a dead project then

  • @adrenaliner91

    @adrenaliner91

    Жыл бұрын

    @@dilated2020 the Dreamcast is still getting games from SEGA in brazil I think. So, 'dead' is not entirely true.

  • @drunkensailor112

    @drunkensailor112

    10 ай бұрын

    ​@@dilated2020there were still a ton of games released on dreamcast in 2001

  • @DCourtwreck
    @DCourtwreck3 жыл бұрын

    There are plenty of complaints to be had about the N64 joystick, but the D-pad? Gotta disagree there. The neutered sound track is the biggest offender, then the lack of movies.

  • @CowboyJoseph64

    @CowboyJoseph64

    2 жыл бұрын

    I played the entirety of tony hawk's pro skater 2, every goal, with two characters, using the d-pad. The n64's d-pad causes great discomfort if you use it extensively. My left thumb genuinely hurt quite a bit from it. It's so angular, and tall. It dug into my thumb quite a lot.

  • @matrix91234

    @matrix91234

    2 жыл бұрын

    Also lack of videos on TV screens in game. Always thought it looked cool. I heard Dreamcast is best version, though PS1 is awesome aswell. Maybe N64 just couldnt hold soundfiles with lyrics or something?

  • @DCourtwreck

    @DCourtwreck

    2 жыл бұрын

    ​@@matrix91234 N64 cartridges hold significantly less data than CD's, so the songs were shortened, compressed and looped to fit the cart. Videos were out of the question.

  • @lmcgregoruk

    @lmcgregoruk

    Жыл бұрын

    @@DCourtwreck N64 cartridges could hold from between 4 and 64MB, PS1 CD's held ~650MB

  • @aaron_aj_knight_95

    @aaron_aj_knight_95

    Жыл бұрын

    It's definitely better with disc versions. I used to own the N64 version first unfortunately.

  • @OliPrimOxx97
    @OliPrimOxx973 жыл бұрын

    Thps1-2-3 on N64 is my whole childhood. For me in my head. It looked exactly like the newer remake looks today

  • @catethps

    @catethps

    3 жыл бұрын

    why does everyone say this lol

  • @clique1579

    @clique1579

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@catethps because back then we didn't know better and kids get entertained with the simplest stuff. Besides this wasn't "simple" back then either

  • @switchunboxing

    @switchunboxing

    3 жыл бұрын

    Right lol what is this

  • @switchunboxing

    @switchunboxing

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@catethps Cuz they nailed it with the remakes

  • @tgreg9542

    @tgreg9542

    2 жыл бұрын

    Facts it was 4K 60fps😂😂😂

  • @SDjilliaRE
    @SDjilliaRE3 жыл бұрын

    I got to work security at the Warped Tour one year and didn't recognize any of the bands, but luckily Goldfinger played my stage near the end of the night and I got to hear Superman live and up-close. It instantly took me back to being a kid playing THPS1 lol

  • @itsjstjohnny2287
    @itsjstjohnny22873 жыл бұрын

    I remember playing the first 2 on N64, never knew they were inferior to the others cuz I had no concept of a "bad game"

  • @foufoufun
    @foufoufun3 жыл бұрын

    There is one thing that made me a little proud to have the N64 versions back then and it was the almost instant loading. If those cartridges had more storage space, the N64 would have definitely been the better console in term of performances.

  • @selfaware7617

    @selfaware7617

    6 ай бұрын

    Nintendo always has some shortcoming weighing down their innovations

  • @MadDogSolo

    @MadDogSolo

    2 ай бұрын

    @@selfaware7617 True, same issue with the GameCube discs too, which are the size of a mini DVD.

  • @AnklepantsSkateZine
    @AnklepantsSkateZine3 жыл бұрын

    The N64 versions also lacked those real videos of the skaters. Those made the game worth playing multiple times with different skaters. Also, a few years ago Chad Muska ollied over me at a skatepark and I stood atop the real life Leap of Faith the same year my girlfriend and I took a skate trip to Burnside Skatepark (we skated there all night).

  • @Matanumi

    @Matanumi

    3 жыл бұрын

    Rip Burnside

  • @athiestjesus8133

    @athiestjesus8133

    6 ай бұрын

    @@Matanumi Burnside is still around. The Leap of Faith is gone though

  • @lakitu5847
    @lakitu58473 жыл бұрын

    the only good thing the n64 ports have is speedrunning

  • @nervousgreg
    @nervousgreg3 жыл бұрын

    When I was a kid I only had an N64, so I ended up with the N64 versions of THPS1 and 2. I had remembered hearing Papa Roach's Blood Brothers in the second game playing it at my cousin's house, so imagine my confusion when I was scrolling through the track list trying to find that song, only for it to be completely absent. I thought my game was broken or something. I was too young to understand that a cartridge meant less space. I also thought RATM's Guerilla Radio actually went "ALL....BWECCHHH....CAN'T STOP US NOW"...only to later realize it's a censored version of "ALL....HELL....CAN'T STOP US NOW". Really Nintendo? Can't even say the word "hell", the most non swear swear word there is? Needless to say I felt pretty jipped on the music side of things. The games were still playable, for me at least, but the PlayStation/PC/Dreamcast versions will always be superior, if for nothing else than having the full track list.

  • @Under10Hours

    @Under10Hours

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yeah all of the censoring is pretty jarring after you play the other versions. When I was a kid I never understood why N64 ports were E and the others were T. Now I get it haha

  • @MadDogSolo

    @MadDogSolo

    2 жыл бұрын

    The music loops on N64 too so it’s not enjoyable

  • @mrwess1927

    @mrwess1927

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Under10Hours I didn’t realize there was a third verse in some of the songs. Until years later I listened to the soundtrack I was confused where all this extra song came from...lol

  • @Larry
    @Larry3 жыл бұрын

    I'd imagine there's way too much travel on a N64 analogue stick to play Tony Hawk comfortably, than on a PS or even a Dreamcast controller.

  • @Under10Hours

    @Under10Hours

    3 жыл бұрын

    That's definitely part of the issue. The travel on it makes it tough to do manuals and special tricks and link the two together. It's not unusable, but there are just better ways to play if you're looking to play today. Also, I'm a huge fan! Thank you for watching!

  • @Larry

    @Larry

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Under10Hours No worries dude, great video BTW.

  • @Under10Hours

    @Under10Hours

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Larry thank you!

  • @yore5

    @yore5

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Under10Hours That's why you use the dpad. it's more accurate anyway. I always played with the stick as a kid and wondered why it was so bad. But i've played the whole game with the dpad and had alot of fun.

  • @BryanX64

    @BryanX64

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@yore5 Agreed once I started using the D-pad I started doing way better, much like in the original Resident Evil games.

  • @bhavdeeprehal8827
    @bhavdeeprehal88273 жыл бұрын

    I thought they looked and ran better than the ps1 titles, but that’s just me. Was never a fan of the weird warping textures on ps1

  • @Under10Hours

    @Under10Hours

    3 жыл бұрын

    That's a good point. I played the PSone versions after I made the video. I preferred how they played and how there were videos playing on the levels, but the warping was definitely a bit jarring.

  • @YoungBasedChefBeezy

    @YoungBasedChefBeezy

    3 жыл бұрын

    HRGF but if you can’t actually play it, then what’s the point? The PlayStation version is just better to actually physically PLAY

  • @YoungBasedChefBeezy

    @YoungBasedChefBeezy

    3 жыл бұрын

    HRGF you played the remaster yet?

  • @catethps

    @catethps

    3 жыл бұрын

    @Paul Bell 1+2 isnt comparable to actually playing the originals, it plays like an entirely different game just with the same levels and goals 2x is probably the best version of the original 2 games

  • @catethps

    @catethps

    3 жыл бұрын

    @Paul Bell i know, its the one i dont own but wish i did ;(

  • @martinlooman1962
    @martinlooman19623 жыл бұрын

    No music, no video, bad controls which is why the psx versions won. My favorite game that you never mentioned was the psx version of thps4, it is like thps2 but with spine transfers, pivots, balance on lip tricks, triple flips and swapping grinds. I never knew it existed so i played it years later on emulator and i was shocked how good it was.

  • @themadhattress5008
    @themadhattress50083 жыл бұрын

    Going from The N64 and the GC version of THPS3 is literally like night and day. It's insane just how different they are and how much better the game looks and controls on the latter console.

  • @FuriousMan226
    @FuriousMan2263 жыл бұрын

    I kinda want to try the first game on N64. Edit: I GOT IT!

  • @Under10Hours

    @Under10Hours

    3 жыл бұрын

    You should! It's not super hard to find either. It's still a great game, it's just got some downsides on N64. Still worth playing for sure.

  • @deang5386

    @deang5386

    3 жыл бұрын

    I'm glad ive never played tony hawk 2 and 3 on N64. I have the first game on N64 and I loved playing it when it came out.

  • @Alexander_l322

    @Alexander_l322

    3 жыл бұрын

    Get an emulator they are great and a rom to play it :)

  • @carsisbest

    @carsisbest

    3 жыл бұрын

    It’ll be worth finding since it was simple with gameplay!

  • @FuriousMan226

    @FuriousMan226

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Under10Hours I got it around Christmas 2020.

  • @nicksterwixter
    @nicksterwixter3 жыл бұрын

    As a kid I only had N64 and all of my friends had N64. So I never got to play the superior PS1 versions. But I'm so glad they did their damndest to port these iconic games to the less powerful console. So many of us would not have experienced them at all otherwise.

  • @drunkensailor112

    @drunkensailor112

    10 ай бұрын

    The ps1 versions were nowhere near as superior as the dreamcast versions

  • @antcan7000
    @antcan70003 жыл бұрын

    I enjoyed this video a lot! What would be the best versions? I played 2 and thugpro on my pc but the framerate is quite abysmal. Are the original xbox versions any good?

  • @Under10Hours

    @Under10Hours

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for watching! I'm glad you liked it! I think the rest come down to either what you have access to or what you prefer. Each have upsides and downsides, but some aren't too different from others. Personally I think the Dreamcast has a great port of 1 because of the better audio quality in the music, 2 is probably best as part of 2x on the Xbox because of the graphics, and 3 is best on PS2 and Xbox because it was developed mainly for those systems.

  • @TimmyRamone
    @TimmyRamone3 жыл бұрын

    Three of the four "removed" levels are just ports from THPS1, which are there because you couldn't play them on the 6th gen consoles. It wouldn't make sense to put those levels on a game that looks like the original one and has the same engine. The only thing really missing is the Cruise Ship, and while it's a shame, there's no way the N64 and PSX would ever run a level like that without being a complete abomination.... and the Downhill Rio is just terrible too. However, I think Shaba Games actually did a good job on the THPS3 PSX port. Yes, it should have never come out on the N64 because of its inumerous limitations, but it _works_ on the Playstation. Sure, there are differences, but most of the compensations are well thought, like Canada's extra areas, Rio's balconies -- hell, the Foundry is actually better to skate on the PSX version with those tubes that go around the entire level!! Please don’t take me the wrong way as I'm not dissing the content, I just think that the PSX port is really underappreciated and it doesn't deserve to be put on the same spot as the N64 port-of-a-port.

  • @Under10Hours

    @Under10Hours

    3 жыл бұрын

    Oh I agree and I'm sorry if it came across as dissing the PSone version. I only mentioned it in the video after researching the differences between the two gens. I played that port on my Vita after I made the video and it's way more serviceable than the N64. I ended up playing the whole PSone port after, and it was a way better experience

  • @Under10Hours

    @Under10Hours

    3 жыл бұрын

    And hey, if you disagree with me that's cool. I don't make the videos to be told I'm right 😂 I like talking about the games whether you all think I'm right or wrong haha

  • @TimmyRamone

    @TimmyRamone

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Under10Hours it's only ok to diss the newer THPS games! 😂

  • @TimmyRamone

    @TimmyRamone

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Under10Hours I think I came across as just saying negative things, but I really love the subject and the quality of the video. I'm digging through obscure (and mostly terrible) Tony Hawk ports as well lately, currently playing PSP's Project 8 classic mode... maaaaan does that feel weird hahaha

  • @Under10Hours

    @Under10Hours

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@TimmyRamone Agreed hahaha

  • @kghhgkgk6322
    @kghhgkgk63223 жыл бұрын

    I only ever had the first game on N64. Loved it and never had any idea it was the lesser version.

  • @killervacuum
    @killervacuum3 жыл бұрын

    any chance you can link to the background music you used?

  • @Under10Hours

    @Under10Hours

    3 жыл бұрын

    Here you go! It's also been added to the description open.spotify.com/album/6qMkqHHLmGfgqTKDyxVVCf?si=o4f5XSy6T9qc-Mra6Zm5tg

  • @Light-Rock97
    @Light-Rock973 жыл бұрын

    Just managed to, for the first time, emulate the Dreamcast. Huge thanks to the makers of reDream, the simplest emulator that allowed me to play a much better looking version of the game I played a whole lot growing up, THPS 2 on the PlayStation.

  • @NuclearWintr
    @NuclearWintr3 жыл бұрын

    So the only one I really played on the Nintendo 64 was THPS2. Even though we were kids and mainly owned a Playstation, we knew there was a clear difference between the PS1 and the N64. The PS1 version is superior to the N64 version in every way.

  • @RossWyatt

    @RossWyatt

    2 жыл бұрын

    N64 looks miles better than the PS1. I grew up with the N61 version of Pro Skater 1 and I never had any trouble using the controller. I had THPS2 on PS1 sure, but I ended up getting the N64 version of that too just because I liked the yellow cartridge (yep). THPS3 I got on the PS2, didn't bother with the watered down versions until I grew up and got the N64 version to complete the trilogy and see what it'd be like on 5th gen consoles. Basically besides the music, I don't see what this guy's talking about on 1 and 2, and I think THPS3 looks and plays just as plain as the PS1 version

  • @fazares

    @fazares

    Жыл бұрын

    @@RossWyatt seconded...THPS 2 N64 features an additional track too

  • @madden8021
    @madden80213 жыл бұрын

    This is why the Dreamcast for 1 and 2 was superior to the PS1 and N64. Btw, the N64 Version for music had more censorship which was one way to achieve Rated E and then removed blood which was another for Rated E.

  • @pukalo
    @pukalo Жыл бұрын

    Is it true the expansion pak increases the framerate in these games, or does it just give the option of having a higher resolution (at the potential cost of framerate)?

  • @retrogamingpub3186
    @retrogamingpub3186 Жыл бұрын

    I grew up playing the PS1 versions of 1&2 usually at my friend house. I played THPS 3 at another friends house on the PS2 and it blew my mind. I only had an N64 at the time so when I picked up THPS games on N64 I was puzzled why half the songs were missing and were butchered. Kinda ruined it for me

  • @tammywyatt4167
    @tammywyatt41673 жыл бұрын

    Amazing video. Do you still have that Vita? lol, I've been wanting to buy one ever since I lost my old one.

  • @Under10Hours

    @Under10Hours

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for watching! And yes I do! It's been awesome now that I've hacked it.

  • @WigWoo1
    @WigWoo13 жыл бұрын

    I mean... The PS1 is half as powerful than the N64 and looks even worse. the only good thing about the PS1 version is the music quality

  • @ddd7038

    @ddd7038

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yeah, but more memory because Disc

  • @kylew7180

    @kylew7180

    3 жыл бұрын

    And the fmv skate videos, bails videos. That was a huge part of the presentation

  • @setsers1

    @setsers1

    3 жыл бұрын

    WigWoo! What's Up?😊

  • @WigWoo1

    @WigWoo1

    3 жыл бұрын

    KJ Setser hiya! Not much. Just chillin

  • @Snivy102

    @Snivy102

    3 жыл бұрын

    So basically you prefer the blurry N64 version to the pixelated but sharp PS1 version?

  • @HyphenatedReality
    @HyphenatedReality3 жыл бұрын

    I grew up with these ports of 1 and 2, as well, and have only seen gameplay of their ports on other consoles. The one thing you could've pointed out going back to these, both in n64 emulators and on original hardware, is how slow the loading times are. I don't know how bad they are on other ports, but it just feels like you're waiting forever for every level to load or to even get to the main menu. The lack of FMV's is a huge thing, too, since seeing the skaters clips were part of the rewards for beating the games, so there's a generation of people who only had the n64 ports of these games that never got to see any of the skater's parts. Also, this is something weird that I couldn't ever confirm, but in Pro Skater 3, is the song "Let's Get Dirty" censored differently on any of the GameCube, Xbox and PC ports? There's lines that say: "My dress code is all black When I'm makin the moves Similar to the new PlayStation 2" I swear I've heard the console name PS2 be censored in a gameplay video of the game, but I can't find the video and don't have any copies/consoles other than the PS2 version to check on.

  • @roybatty4578
    @roybatty45782 жыл бұрын

    If you played with the d pad like an OG the first THPS was great on N64

  • @funkmonk0562
    @funkmonk05623 жыл бұрын

    If Police Truck really didn't have any lyrics, what did you even plan to do once you got up there?? Great vid though, I've been watching a bunch of THPS videos to get hype for THPS 1+2

  • @Under10Hours

    @Under10Hours

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for watching! The plan was to be like when that video of the guy singing "Tequila" stared dead-eyed into the audience until he actually got to say the word, but with me just staring into the audience for two and a half minutes. Then I'd walk away.

  • @Brazda25
    @Brazda253 жыл бұрын

    Load times on n64 were amazing

  • @NewGabeOrder
    @NewGabeOrder5 ай бұрын

    3:24 There is a goal where you have to perform a quarterpipe transfer across the pillar containing a wire. Once this is done, the wire will snap, and the pillar will fall to crush and destroy the ice cream truck, slowing down its music as a result. This is needed to collect the secret tape without any jetpack cheats.

  • @lmcgregoruk
    @lmcgregoruk Жыл бұрын

    THPS 3 didn't come out on N64 here in the UK, apparently it only came out on N64 in America.

  • @BryanX64
    @BryanX643 жыл бұрын

    THPS3 actually came out in 2002 if you can believe that. I grew up playing the first game on N64 and I loved it. Butchered music and all, it's those versions that are most nostalgic for me. That and, as you said, it controlled reasonably well on N64. Geoff Rowley has always been my guy in these games. Played 2 on PS1 and 3-THUG on GameCube.

  • @HoudiniFontmeister
    @HoudiniFontmeister3 жыл бұрын

    Over time the Dpad on the N64 gets worse. I can definitely see it affecting gameplay. All you gotta do is clean the rubber membranes on it though to restore it. I soak them in warm soapy water then dry and put it back in the controller. The issue you were describing definitely sounded similar to an issue I had with Mischief makers recently but was fixed once i thoroughly cleaned the Dpad. :)

  • @T512X
    @T512X2 жыл бұрын

    Revisted THPS2 on my N64 when I finished the 1+2 Remake. And I was absolutely done with it when a simple wall ride 5 bells seemed like the most impossible thing to do.

  • @stephenpatterson8056
    @stephenpatterson805611 күн бұрын

    It is halfway through the year 2024 and I don't know if I was EVER aware that there was an N64 port of THPS3...

  • @mariosteineschwanz2442
    @mariosteineschwanz24423 жыл бұрын

    I think a big downside N64 version : the controller was akward for Thps, especially the small yellow buttons . Also the D pad is inferior to psx

  • @TheDarkwingj
    @TheDarkwingj3 жыл бұрын

    THPS and 2 are playable on the N64 wasn't as great on Dreamcast and on PS1 but its playable when 3 came to the N64 everyone was playing it on GameCube and next gen consoles so nobody gave a darn except for the loyal N64 gamers who stuck until the end

  • @switchunboxing
    @switchunboxing3 жыл бұрын

    Bro, when you had an N64 you didn’t notice or care. Music sounded awesome. We were stoked to have real songs on the system and just excited to have Tony Hawk!! Gotta love those remixes!!!!

  • @tomapple64
    @tomapple642 жыл бұрын

    I think the release of the n64 version of 3 is interesting being the last released game on the system and it was the only game released for the system in 2002. Yes it’s horrible compared to the other versions... but the fact it was released at all was a miracle info itself. That makes it interesting to me, the question on why it released to begin with

  • @carsisbest
    @carsisbest3 жыл бұрын

    What impressed me the most with the N64 versions of THPS2-3 is the sound quality of the music, sure it’s a butchered up versions of the songs but it sounded very “CD” sounding unlike THPS1 which sounds compressed.

  • @youngpastrami2683
    @youngpastrami26833 жыл бұрын

    Does anyone know what brand that red hoodie is at 1:34?? I can for the life of me remember the name of it and it’s killing me lol

  • @ps3customgamer
    @ps3customgamer3 жыл бұрын

    Digital foundry seems to think n64 is rendered better! It’s like SCREW YOU the n64 doesn’t render at high enough res to do that much antialiasing and has super low res textures so the whole thing looks blurred and colours bland

  • @laggames4203
    @laggames42033 жыл бұрын

    I feel like they would have done better if they made the game from the ground up instead of trying to port it, just like what happens with portable ports of games.

  • @Davewolfy
    @Davewolfy3 жыл бұрын

    Did the number 3 version come out in Australia?

  • @NewGabeOrder
    @NewGabeOrder5 ай бұрын

    7:01 Despite the 3D stick being a thing for the N64, the N64 port of THPS3 doesn't have camera control functionality, and no option to remap the 3D stick to move the camera. It's best to play the PlayStation version of THPS3 or the other platforms for camera control.

  • @Lucky_9705
    @Lucky_970517 күн бұрын

    The devs should have found a way to calibrate and translate the D-Pad controls to better fit the N64’s analog stick. It would’ve been hard and different, but the additional work would’ve paid off

  • @retropulse03
    @retropulse033 жыл бұрын

    I rented it on N64 the day it came out, we were so confused how to even jump and do tricks - and it was blockbuster, so no game manual... and it's the year 2000 so 11 year olds aren't thinking to google this sort of thing yet. We almost took it back, thinking it was broken.

  • @Under10Hours

    @Under10Hours

    3 жыл бұрын

    I had a similar experience with the wrestling game WCW Nitro. No manual, no move list, no nothing. I exchanged it for a different copy thinking it was broken, took it home and it taught me the lesson that games can be bad 😂

  • @themedallostoryteller1105
    @themedallostoryteller1105 Жыл бұрын

    Imagine if the N64 had 1GB cartridges It might have been the best console of that generation, 'cause many legendary good games we knew for PlayStation would've been exclusively for N64 meaning they'd even have more content and better graphics

  • @rustyshackleford2792
    @rustyshackleford2792 Жыл бұрын

    I'm currently playing thps3 on my everdrive and I notice the music issue. Del the funky homosapian song cuts the chorus completely and they only have the first 45 seconds of Aaf song.

  • @aronburrell3792
    @aronburrell37924 ай бұрын

    I was lucky to have all these games on ps1 growing up, thps1 is actually the very first game I have memory of playing. however as a teenager I had lost my PlayStation and all my games, but I did have a 64, and a copy of the first 2 games and I had no problem playing the games and completing them 100% on that console. The soundtrack sucked, but I just muted it and played music on my stereo instead. The instant loading screens actually encouraged me to try speed running the first game and I had a blast trying to beat my own time over and over and over again. When 1+2 came out I had so much fun with it that I started collecting for ps2 now I’ve got the superior version of every game and I’m not going back to n64, but as a broke teenager with no money for retro collecting it got the job done and then some. Over the years there’s no other series I’ve put as many hours into and I keep coming back to it. I appreciate your content and passion for the games. Interesting you say 3 is your favorite it’s actually my least favorite of the ps2 era titles. I still love it it’s just at the bottom of my list. I’d probably have to put THUG at the top.

  • @thelooch7002
    @thelooch70023 жыл бұрын

    THPS3 was my first of the series on Gamecube. Sunk SO many hours into that one, far more than I would ever sink into subsequent entries. So yeah, never played 1 & 2 (unless you count the GBC port of the first game) but 3 will always have a special place in my heart.

  • @Under10Hours

    @Under10Hours

    3 жыл бұрын

    It's great and probably my favorite of the original three. I would recommend trying 2 if you ever get a chance because it's still really good and holds up well.

  • @TheDapperCat
    @TheDapperCat10 ай бұрын

    I have to mention THPS3's truncated levels and lack of peds or moving objects isn't specific to the N64 version. The N64 is built off of Shaba Games PS1 version of THPS3 and the levels are near identical and obviously the PS1 version wasn't dealing with anywhere as limited as storage as N64 had to deal with. The levels are truncated or simplified for performance reasons, not only are most of the levels smaller in the PS1 version the geometry is a lot similar to cut down on polygons. (staircases being turned into ramps, curved objects becoming straight, etc) Funny enough when it comes to the competitive score attack scenes, the PS1/N64 levels are sometimes preferred as they either cut out the fluff or areas where there's not much combo lines, the best example being Canada that replaces the big OoB section that runs along the left of the starting area with new skate-able buildings, and the rail tracks instead of the suspended wooden bridge and quarter pipes. Though in these cases they're playing these levels in the Thug Pro engine modded in. The draw distance also seems to be on par with the ps1 version, arguably the fog/draw distance effects look better on N64 as it's a lot smoother drawing in distance geometry, whereas the PS1 version you can see each poly shape fade in separately. Regarding controls and game feel, so I have to preface I've only played the N64 version of THPS3 via emulation, but something is off with the game feel regardless of the controller. I set it up so I could play using a PS1 pad with the exact same mapping as the PS1 version and it still plays worse. Collision detection with objects just feels very slightly broken, but it's so subtle it's hard to describe exactly what's going wrong but you don't always attach to rails the same way, or the best example some quarter pipes/half pipes you will use and jump off like you just used a kicker not rotate 45 degrees with the quarter angle if you ollie too late, that and jumping up and out of pipes seems to not work sometimes. But I can play the PS1 version with the same controller and it even runs at a lower FPS than on N64 and the PS1 version still feels better. Feels like something with the physics and the collision detection got broke during the porting process. Only other thing is I would have mentioned in the video 3 of the 4 levels not in the PS1/N64 version of THPS3 were ported levels from THPS1 and not full campaign levels with goals or medals. Cruise ship being replaced with Downhill, which has no goals when cruiseship did, and is just a weird gimmick level to me felt far more eggregious. Oh, and DON'T FORGET THE JOKER!!!

  • @4.7m_views
    @4.7m_views3 жыл бұрын

    Fun fact: the ps1 version of thps1 is much better than the n64 version. Better graphics, full music instead of snippet version, more content, etc. The only thing I like about the n64 version over all other systems is bc the menu music loop is that 5 second constantly looped which I prefer more. Anyway ps1 version is worth the 10-15$ on eBay. I don’t even bother with my n64 version anymore.

  • @zukodude487987
    @zukodude4879872 жыл бұрын

    Not only that but also no fmv of the skaters after beating career. Also why the 4th game was never ported to n64.

  • @turtle_soda
    @turtle_soda3 жыл бұрын

    Uuuummmmmm, how’d you get thps on a ps vita??? I do t see them on the store.

  • @Under10Hours

    @Under10Hours

    3 жыл бұрын

    Haha trade secret 😉 No my Vita is hacked and modded to run the ROMs and ISOs of a bunch of different consoles. The Vita can run most PSone games perfectly, and it's been a ton of fun having these classics in my pocket.

  • @turtle_soda

    @turtle_soda

    3 жыл бұрын

    under10hours thanks I’ll look into it.

  • @calebnotshomo
    @calebnotshomo9 ай бұрын

    I never played the N64 ports until I was way older but THPS on PS1 was my favorite game as a kid. The entire franchise will forever be my favorite franchise of all time. Even tho THPS5 was a complete fail it may have opened the door to more remakes and that’s definitely something I look forward to seeing.

  • @raphaelhatake8706
    @raphaelhatake87063 жыл бұрын

    i loved THPS 2 on the N64 so much !! Of course there were fewer songs, and the videos were missing ... But the graphics were much better than on the PS1 ... And the missing songs didn't bother me, I had a CD player

  • @shadiibrahim9240
    @shadiibrahim9240 Жыл бұрын

    THPS on the N64 was my first experience with the game. I was a young kid so it was all I knew. As soon as I got my hands on the PS1 version of the game, I noticed a big difference. When I got my PS2 there was no going back. There are a lot of games third party games that were held back on the N64.

  • @RonnyLive19881
    @RonnyLive198813 жыл бұрын

    I played the first game on the N64 and loved it! I rented the second one for N64 because I knew I’d eventually have a Dreamcast to buy the second one for. That said they were solid ports. I was shocked THPS3 was ported to N64, I bought it for GameCube. Seeing the cart available at stores always had me wondering who would buy that? I wonder how many it sold? I never see THPS3 on n64 at the retro game stores.

  • @thelightseeker94
    @thelightseeker94 Жыл бұрын

    Yeah I had thps2 on N64 I had no idea PS1 was better ad I didn't have ps1. But I got thps3 on ps2 and saw a huge jump up in quality.

  • @ChipsA17
    @ChipsA173 жыл бұрын

    Thps is most of what I played on n64. I had a blast. I didn't get a Playstation until the ps2 so I didn't know there were better versions. N64 was my main console for a very long time

  • @RawLmax
    @RawLmax3 жыл бұрын

    This was fantastic! Your commentary/editing were on point

  • @Under10Hours

    @Under10Hours

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks so much! I'm glad you liked it!

  • @NewGabeOrder
    @NewGabeOrder5 ай бұрын

    Maybe you might be using a 3rd party N64 controller, which explains why the directional buttons aren't as accurate as you expect. Perhaps an OEM Nintendo 64 controller has the most accurate directional buttons, so I highly suggest you get one if you haven't. Not to mention the skaters are a tad lighter on N64 than on the disc-based versions of the first THPS. Some players prefer the N64 version due to this reason, allowing for a slightly-floaty game feel. Without a PC version, the first THPS game's best version for speedrunning is surprisingly the N64 version considering the lack of load times. THPS2 and 3 had official PC ports, and their load times can be minimized if a no-CD patch is installed.

  • @baguete02
    @baguete023 жыл бұрын

    Nintendo should've bought Factor's 5 MusyX codec in order to be the main audio development tool for all the N64 Dev kits, I guarantee that all the music could've fit with good quality, also convert assets and textures from disc based games to the N64 peculiar texture cache was a pain. No studio would want to redesign everything from scratch just for the N64.

  • @blarpo7385
    @blarpo73853 жыл бұрын

    i actually got a n64 for my christmas of 2013 with a copy of thps and i played the shit outta that with my uncle. i recently got a ps1 last year in july and got the first thps and i fell in love. i can now understand why everyone hates the n64 version, and I concur that the PS1 version is much better, due to it being made for that platform specifically, but I still have a softspot for the n64 version of the original game.

  • @Masta_E
    @Masta_E3 жыл бұрын

    I gotta agree with you. I grew up on the n64 and remember playing thps 1 and 2 all the time and loved it. I don't remember songs being neutered and controls sucking as I was just a kiddo having fun. Lol. I remember playing thps 2 on PC and n64, maybe I got it twice lol.

  • @bbqchickenhotsauce9307
    @bbqchickenhotsauce93073 жыл бұрын

    It’s not the controller that suck, it’s just the player that cant handle

  • @wiseguymotionpictures1416
    @wiseguymotionpictures14163 жыл бұрын

    The first Tony Hawk game I ever played was THPS 2 on N64. Once I did play the PS1 version, I realized that I hated the lack of a real video intro and how the music sounded, but I thought gameplay wise it was a great time. No noticeable differences in gameplay between that and the PS1 version I played later at friend's houses and stuff besides just the controller not being the same, but I did use the D pad and I started on N64 so maybe I'm just biased. PS1 games in the series also had pretty short draw distances, that wasn't just typical N64 fog in this case. I actually kind of miss it in THPS 1+2 now because it's a little overwhelming having everything loaded at once. Objectives just bleed into the background sometimes.

  • @Bearcade
    @Bearcade3 жыл бұрын

    Great video! I grew up on these too. Use to rent 2 all the time. The yellow cartridge was cool.

  • @Under10Hours

    @Under10Hours

    3 жыл бұрын

    I’m glad you enjoyed! I also loved the multicolored cartridges! I wish there were more haha

  • @SunlightGwyn
    @SunlightGwyn2 жыл бұрын

    Tony Hawk Pro Skater 3 will always be my favorite sports game of all time. Never played 1 + 2 as a kid so the 2020 remakes were brand new to me in every way.

  • @segaboyo2365
    @segaboyo23653 жыл бұрын

    how did you play thps on ps vita? were they delisted?

  • @DeafOnAllFronts

    @DeafOnAllFronts

    20 сағат бұрын

    Caca

  • @ssj2rhandy
    @ssj2rhandy Жыл бұрын

    I wonder what’re your thoughts on the PS1 port of Pro Skater 3?

  • @mcwooley
    @mcwooley11 ай бұрын

    Are those your MIDI arrangements? I like them I'm sure the N64 could have played some decent samples of all those instruments, and shorten the vocal audio tracks (if available seperately) Wouldn't be awesome sound quality but my point is that the songs didn't need to be edited (even if the lyrics really did need to be taken out) Thursday, August 3, 2023 CE, 20:57 EDT

  • @Scroolip
    @Scroolip3 жыл бұрын

    Woah how did you get it on your vita?

  • @Under10Hours

    @Under10Hours

    3 жыл бұрын

    I hacked it! It's a pretty simple process if you watch some guides, but it has full PSP and PSone compatibility!!

  • @Scroolip

    @Scroolip

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Under10Hours I'm scared to hack mine, I bought a hacked psp a while ago, the seller didn't know it was hacked so I'm sticking with that but I was just curious if it was hacked if you just knew of a way to side load games lol

  • @Under10Hours

    @Under10Hours

    3 жыл бұрын

    @Michel O'Hara oh definitely don't do anything you're not comfortable with! But unfortunately I don't know of a way to sideload. But if you're ever interested in hacking definitely look up Tech James

  • @anthonyandLiamPlayChannel
    @anthonyandLiamPlayChannel3 жыл бұрын

    I loved the N64 ports when I was a kid. If I tried to do it today however I wouldn't be able to. You're right it's a game meant for PlayStation

  • @alejandroramirez4470
    @alejandroramirez44703 жыл бұрын

    I have the third on 64. weird how I had the first on psx and the second on DC. never played the following gen versions of 3 or 4.

  • @Under10Hours

    @Under10Hours

    3 жыл бұрын

    If you ever get the opportunity to, definitely play 3 and 4 on PS2 or Xbox!

  • @alejandroramirez4470

    @alejandroramirez4470

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Under10Hours might have the ps2 still but definitely not xbox.

  • @Under10Hours

    @Under10Hours

    3 жыл бұрын

    That's still a great place to play it!

  • @TayR0C

    @TayR0C

    3 жыл бұрын

    THPS 3 is the best one on PS2/xbox. Better on PS2 because of the controller.

  • @designate_om
    @designate_om3 жыл бұрын

    i could have sworn that thps2 on n64 gave you the option of mapping ollie to the a-button. i distinctly remember being relieved that i didn't have to use c-down anymore

  • @SleepyRobbo
    @SleepyRobbo9 ай бұрын

    the n64 versions of the pro skater 3 songs are so funny, they had to splice together the same bars over and over again to make it vaguely sound like the original

  • @J_Wales
    @J_Wales3 жыл бұрын

    Looking back I have no clue how I didn’t realize the vast difference between playing thps on N64 vs PlayStation. I enjoyed the entire series until underground 2, that’s the last main entry I played. underground remix for the psp was amazing as a handheld game back in the day.

  • @Under10Hours

    @Under10Hours

    3 жыл бұрын

    I played a lot of Underground Remix on PSP. It's still good!

  • @Under10Hours

    @Under10Hours

    3 жыл бұрын

    Also I grew up on all the N64 ports too and I was shocked at how different they were after playing the PSone version after I finished the video

  • @J_Wales

    @J_Wales

    3 жыл бұрын

    I think what happened was that I had the first game on N64 and then got THPS 2 for PlayStation. so maybe way back then I just figured it was a nice upgrade between games, not realizing that It was just the N64 ports being awful. I then got THPS 3 for GameCube so... I was all over the place lol 😂

  • @Under10Hours

    @Under10Hours

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@J_Wales I feel the same way! I ended up with 1-3 on N64 but then YEARS later I got 3 on GameCube but only after I played THUG 1-2 on Xbox and AW on 360

  • @ThunderDragonRandy
    @ThunderDragonRandy8 ай бұрын

    I played the first game on N64 at a friend's house when I was a kid as I remember the Mall level. Was my first time playing a Tony Hawk game.

  • @apedap
    @apedap3 жыл бұрын

    I feel like you're being very unjust in your arguments. The music being scaled down is pretty obvious but graphic wise, it is pretty much on par with the PS1 if not better. All three gamed also recieves a performance boost with the expansion pak. Draw distance isn't good on the two first games on any system, save for maybe the Dreamcast or XBOX so with the third being bad is just because it uses old tech.

  • @RaRa-eu9mw
    @RaRa-eu9mw3 жыл бұрын

    "The ice cream truck doesn't move in n64 but does in other versions" - it doesn't move in PS1 either. Surely a better comparison than comparing with next gen consoles.

  • @DoctorMorgenstein
    @DoctorMorgenstein6 ай бұрын

    No one had the dreamcast version, it was a PS1 hit and the dreamcast released a few months before the ps2 did. So the ps1 ports looked better than the n64 versions but not that much and, like with many N64/PS1 titles on both platforms, it's only looking better in some ways and the N64 has it's areas. And 3 was also made for the PS1, and the n64 version is looking better from the clips in this video. The dreamcast ended up having tons of better looking versions of PS1 games, but it was years after the PS1's popularity had been and gone and like I said the PS2 came right around the corner. Sadly, the main function the Dreamcast has ever had is giving PS1 kids like me a better version of their favourite childhood classics when they go back on an emulator, al cleaned up without the warbling.

  • @tdiens420420
    @tdiens4204203 жыл бұрын

    What's the best way to play Tony Hawk in 99 when your 8 years old? Whatever console you're parents bought for you! I played the first two games on N64 and loved them. But I get your point

  • @4.7m_views
    @4.7m_views2 жыл бұрын

    Videos like this is why I love KZread. This video gives me AVGN vibes. Anyway, you took the words out of my mouth about this trilogy. I went ahead and deleted 2 and 3 off my everdrive bc of the reasons you explained here, which I’ve felt while playing these games. Part 1 is my favorite. Controls feel more natural and better levels (imo). Great upload buddy!

  • @MetalJuggalo
    @MetalJuggaloАй бұрын

    2:58 imagine building up such a long grind score just to bail

  • @regorllerref
    @regorllerref4 ай бұрын

    I grew up with THPS 1 on N64 as one of my top 5, but I do remember playing the PS1 version a few years ago and being surprised how much more it had.

  • @rodneywilliams6954
    @rodneywilliams69543 жыл бұрын

    List of fav TH games. 1. THUG 2 REMIX (PSP) 2. THPS 3 3. American Wasteland 4. Project 8

  • @TayR0C

    @TayR0C

    3 жыл бұрын

    You have the best in the series (3), but have the 3 worst as well. (not counting Post PS2.)

  • @rodneywilliams6954

    @rodneywilliams6954

    3 жыл бұрын

    TayR0C yeah but now I have THPS 1+2 which balances out everything. Lol

  • @TayR0C

    @TayR0C

    3 жыл бұрын

    @bubble boi 4 was the beginning of the downfall. 3 was the peak.

  • @joshshrum2764

    @joshshrum2764

    3 жыл бұрын

    Rodney Williams No 1 through 4 reeeeeeeee.

  • @BDON
    @BDON3 жыл бұрын

    I remember as a kid being pissed because the “grind” sparks on THPS1 on N64 looked like gold paint lol

  • @iamkool12342
    @iamkool123422 ай бұрын

    I still remember playing pro skater 3 for the first time at my friends house on the PS2. I couldnt believe how much better than pro skater 2 on the n64 it was. the game was just so crisp and clean in comparison. i wanted to play it again so i rented pro skater 3 from blockbuster, but i only had an n64 at the time. so i rented it on n64 expecting the same experience, and i just remember going into the first level and just thinking "what the fuck is this piece of shit"

  • @xtlm
    @xtlm3 жыл бұрын

    I always preferred the N64 version to the PS1 version of THPS1. Because the controls were more responsive. Sure not having all the music stunk, but it still was great. Can't say anything about 2 or 3...heck I beat 2 using a keyboard on a computer....and played 3 on the PS2.

  • @thesmootsays69
    @thesmootsays693 жыл бұрын

    My first THPS game was the PS1 port of THPS3. For 15 years, to me, that port WAS Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 3 (until I played the PS2 version on an emulator in 2017)

  • @synthguy7774
    @synthguy7774 Жыл бұрын

    The songs kept on looping at certain sections and you unlock special trick tutorials instead of unlocking skate videos. This was useless because you could look how to do special tricks on the internet even during the late 90s. That sums it up.

  • @icecreampimpdeux
    @icecreampimpdeux3 жыл бұрын

    N64 gameplay was sick. The sound was ass though, PS1 always had that crisp ass sound compared to N64

  • @faresgameover30
    @faresgameover30Ай бұрын

    the first ever Tony Hawk I played was Tony Hawk Pro Skater 4 on the PS1 I played it on an emulator on my phone it's called ePSXe the game was amazing that game is the whole reason I love skateboarding and all the other Tony Hawk games

  • @asadavis9532
    @asadavis9532 Жыл бұрын

    An old friend and I were 100% in the first three games at separate locations over the phone. Might sound odd but it was a lot of fun, anyways, he was playing the PlayStation and I was playing the n64. We 100% of the first two games and went on to number 3 and I just had to tap out because I found it so unbearable. He was confused so I told him to come over and check out the N64 versions of the games and he looked ill. Looking back at it it was really funny because he had no idea how butchered the background effects, controls, and most importantly the soundtracks were on the N64

  • @edvenuto9614
    @edvenuto96143 жыл бұрын

    I played the old Tony hawk skater for the first time a year ago. It was in my garage. My friend from 2000 forgot it I had it in my garage. I bought the remastered ps4. I love the remastered. I love my ps4

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