Why the Gerudo Valley Theme in Ocarina of Time is such an Amazing Song

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On the edge of a harsh desert and the border to Hyrule, lives an encampment of women known as the Gerudo. Who are the Gerudo, what cultural references inspired the Gerudo Lore, and how did Koji Kondo compose the music for the Gerudo Valley Theme? Fascinatingly, the Gerudo Valley theme takes a lot of influence from Spanish Guitar! Please enjoy the next entry in our Zelda music analysis series on Gerudo Valley! This time we focus on Ocarina of Time's Gerudo Valley and Gerudo Valley Music Theory. Sorry it's been so long since the last Legend of Zelda Music Analysis video, time sort of got away from me, but I hope you enjoy the newest Ocarina of Time Music Theory, and that it makes clear why the Gerudo Valley Theme in Ocarina of Time is such an Amazing Song.
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00:00 - Introduction and Cultural Theory
7:11 - Music Analysis
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  • @SaveDataTeam
    @SaveDataTeam2 жыл бұрын

    What do you think about Gerudo Valley and it's music? Tell us about it below! Also, it would be a huge help to getting these videos out at a faster rate if you supported us financially at: Patreon.com/savedatateam And I stream Zelda Randomizers sometimes at: Twitch.tv/savedatateam

  • @knitguyy9212

    @knitguyy9212

    2 жыл бұрын

    Gerudo valley is my second favorite. Right behind clock town day 2

  • @generaljimmies3429

    @generaljimmies3429

    2 жыл бұрын

    5:55 The spirit temple's Boss is Twinrova, not Twinmold

  • @apocryphalentertainment2456

    @apocryphalentertainment2456

    2 жыл бұрын

    I remember reaching the gerudo fortress for the first time and hearing this play, and omg has it played in my head time and time again every time I saw anything resembling a desert! Love this series man! Keep it up!

  • @alysdexia

    @alysdexia

    2 жыл бұрын

    its, hick. Kristendom: more like Hæresydom; gentiles/nonvirgins/women cannot be Kristians; Orthodocsics, Catholics, Anglicans, Protestants are Petrists, papists, mishmash, Paulists as they do what Gospels expressly oppose like popes, family and marriage, conversion of foreigners, diet, wealth, eisèghèsis and mistranslation, public worship, and don’t do what they bid like drink poison, castration, play with snakes, heal sick (not with drugs as those incur death penalty for witchcraft in Revelation-bad news for sectarian hospitals), speak in tongues (not fake ones like Pentecostals), sell everything, buy a sword, cut off their sinful limbs, kill unbelievers, get killed for their faketh.

  • @dianabuttercup2818

    @dianabuttercup2818

    2 жыл бұрын

    So when will you get around to talking about the music and design for Lon Lon Ranch?

  • @mikereyes2488
    @mikereyes24882 жыл бұрын

    I always wondered if Koji Kondo was like "you know what, I just feel like putting a Spanish flair to this level/song" and not really thinking of history/origin of the Gerudo people 😂

  • @Kagomai15

    @Kagomai15

    2 жыл бұрын

    That could be true, and it could also be unconscious knowledge or bias, but either way, the history and influences are there, and it's very interesting to learn :)

  • @hardcorecarlo

    @hardcorecarlo

    2 жыл бұрын

    You could also say he listened Bamboleo and got inspired by it, you're welcome

  • @retrogamermax8287

    @retrogamermax8287

    2 жыл бұрын

    Well, Spain has some Arabian/Moorish origins to a good chunk of it's history so it makes a bit of sense to draw music off from Spanish culture for a middle eastern setting world in a video game.

  • @deansbian5607

    @deansbian5607

    2 жыл бұрын

    I’ve just started playing this game with my sister and when we got here I was like. did Enrique Iglesias write this

  • @StarBomber_4

    @StarBomber_4

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@deansbian5607 LOL

  • @LAM1895
    @LAM18952 жыл бұрын

    My dad plays guitar for fun and I talked him into learning this tune. It was difficult for him because he didn’t know the style and it was a huge workout for him to keep the rhythm, but he managed to learn it and I accompanied him on my electronic keyboard by changing the sound to guitar or trumpet. We had fun playing this together 🙂

  • @SaveDataTeam

    @SaveDataTeam

    2 жыл бұрын

    I love that! Thank you for sharing!

  • @cameronjadewallace

    @cameronjadewallace

    Жыл бұрын

    That's amazing! What a bonding moment

  • @yushen7492

    @yushen7492

    Жыл бұрын

    share the outcome

  • @ayanamiayachanJ

    @ayanamiayachanJ

    Жыл бұрын

    You have a cool dad

  • @Nico2much4em

    @Nico2much4em

    7 ай бұрын

    can he teach me this on guitar?

  • @brianmerritt5410
    @brianmerritt5410 Жыл бұрын

    It takes talent to create a track that slaps, but never gets annoying when the player is stuck in that level for hours.

  • @ATSaale

    @ATSaale

    Жыл бұрын

    Make this song a hit and totally ignorable.

  • @selenopheria

    @selenopheria

    Жыл бұрын

    Kondo would listen to his own music for hours just to make sure it wouldn't bore the player.

  • @Guurzak

    @Guurzak

    Жыл бұрын

    My wife made up lyrics to this tune because she was here for so long. Ihatethisplace, Ihatethisplace Ihatethisplace, ihatethisplace Ihatethisplace, Ihatethisplace Thisfuckinplace

  • @kevinerosa

    @kevinerosa

    Жыл бұрын

    *Water temple music has entered chat.

  • @trequor

    @trequor

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@kevinerosa That is the inverted opposite lol

  • @jackwhat5969
    @jackwhat5969 Жыл бұрын

    As a Portuguese man, as a history tour guide, as a fan of Zelda games, and as a fan of both fado and flamenco music... You've really done your research. Great video, I really appreciated this.

  • @rafazamigo

    @rafazamigo

    Жыл бұрын

    Haven't seen the video yet, but Gerudo Valley was also inspired by Fado?

  • @braziliantsar

    @braziliantsar

    5 ай бұрын

    Fado is underrated as hell. It needs to get the popularity flamenco has

  • @simonn2045
    @simonn20452 жыл бұрын

    This is THE song I could listen to over and over and can find any excuse to just be in Gerudo Valley

  • @sushilampa8287

    @sushilampa8287

    2 жыл бұрын

    The music is just a plus but gerudo ladies are the reason IM there

  • @GlyphicEnigma

    @GlyphicEnigma

    2 жыл бұрын

    Here's the best excuse; play randomizer! :D

  • @bluezaton

    @bluezaton

    2 жыл бұрын

    Better excuse, make it your ringtone or alarm tone

  • @ao1778

    @ao1778

    2 жыл бұрын

    For me, it's Song of Storms and then this one for #1 and #2, respectively.

  • @johanneszollner9709

    @johanneszollner9709

    2 жыл бұрын

    Ur right love this song. Couldn't get enough. Tbh its a masterpiece and any gamer should know it cause its a big part of video game history and will ever be😍.

  • 2 жыл бұрын

    As an andalusian myself and flamenco enthusiastic (and zelda player too) i wanna say that your video is pretty well researched, i liked a lot that you used video examples, you saying the elements names in Spanish and the respect, thanks for this video

  • @erikhendrickson59
    @erikhendrickson592 жыл бұрын

    Koji Kondo has written DOZENS of songs that I could listen to literally an infinite number of times. The man is a fucking genius.

  • @MyUnquenchableThirst

    @MyUnquenchableThirst

    8 ай бұрын

    the whole soundtrack to OoT is my jam. I had it on my ipod when I was in highschool and would listen to it on the bus for days

  • @Silver-qv2ow

    @Silver-qv2ow

    2 ай бұрын

    He was the master composer of almost every memorable Zelda and Mario song in the 90s and continued to lend his talents for the next decade or so. Now that he's only a mostly symbolic "advisor," I sadly feel like there aren't any catchy tunes in Zelda anymore. Nintendo will never find another Kondo.

  • @finalbreath15
    @finalbreath15 Жыл бұрын

    The culture mashing in LoZ is just so well done and nothing ever feels out of place.

  • @fuarkstyle

    @fuarkstyle

    10 ай бұрын

    Similar to what Oda does with OP

  • @Jiub_SN

    @Jiub_SN

    3 ай бұрын

    @@fuarkstylewho? Oh wait you mean the guy writing the never ending story manga right?

  • @sweetmisslaura
    @sweetmisslaura2 жыл бұрын

    I read a article when I was younger that Koji Kondo said this was influenced by flamenco music. My dad does not play video games but playing this as a kid my dad loved the music always said reminded him of home

  • @GigglebunsUV
    @GigglebunsUV2 жыл бұрын

    worth mentioning that i-bVII-bVI-V progression is also used heavily throughout Zelda's music, biggest one being the main theme. so the fact that it was used in this song as well as being the most common flamenco progression is definitely no coincidence

  • @Tazerboy_10

    @Tazerboy_10

    2 жыл бұрын

    What's the i-bVII-bVI-V? (⬆️ - I'm not a musician nor an expert in sheet music...)

  • @GigglebunsUV

    @GigglebunsUV

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Tazerboy_10 its a minor chord progression, for instance in A minor the chords would be (A minor, G major, F major, E major)

  • @radioactivejackal

    @radioactivejackal

    2 жыл бұрын

    @Gigglebuns the progression you mention is not used in the OoT Gerudo Valley theme. Gerudo Valley: i - bVI - bVII - V Beginning fanfare to the main Legend of Zelda Overworld theme on the NES: I - bVII - bVI - V The first chord is implied to be the major tonic, I, rather than the minor tonic, i

  • @GigglebunsUV

    @GigglebunsUV

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@radioactivejackal oh yeah! you're right, thank you

  • @tovi3280

    @tovi3280

    2 жыл бұрын

    Isn’t that a different chord progression?

  • @Ceridwyn82
    @Ceridwyn826 ай бұрын

    This song always makes me cry… it’s mesmerizingly, hauntingly, but upliftingly beautiful. It’s always struck me deeply, emotionally in ways I can’t put into words. 1000% my favorite. But there are so many amazing scores in the Zelda music universe.

  • @ikersanchezcarmona9363
    @ikersanchezcarmona9363 Жыл бұрын

    As a Andalusian myself, more specifically as a "Granadino" I loved the way you explained our background history and how respectful you have been with Flamenco and our culture, you got a new subscriber for sure!

  • @SaveDataTeam

    @SaveDataTeam

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you so much! 😁

  • @Jiub_SN

    @Jiub_SN

    3 ай бұрын

    Are you Christian? Don't make me report you to the inquisition

  • @settheory2219

    @settheory2219

    2 ай бұрын

    Le chien d'andalou was a great film

  • @aesuradracaheorte3585
    @aesuradracaheorte35852 жыл бұрын

    "spirit temple and it's boss, twinmold" how did twinmold move from termina to hyrule, and turn from giant flying worms into witches? and where did twinrova go?

  • @TigerTabCat1

    @TigerTabCat1

    2 жыл бұрын

    Lol I paused the video at this point to search for a comment like this

  • @22pepperjack

    @22pepperjack

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@TigerTabCat1 just did the exact same thing lol

  • @grasshopper29

    @grasshopper29

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@TigerTabCat1 same here

  • @Yxiomel

    @Yxiomel

    2 жыл бұрын

    The only other one of this guys videos that I've seen is his Majoras Mask one in which he calls Twinmold 'Twinrova'...

  • @kurisutirando-san

    @kurisutirando-san

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@TigerTabCat1 I thought I was the only one that did this!

  • @dsramsey
    @dsramsey2 жыл бұрын

    Aside from everything that comes with the song itself, I think that part of what makes it so amazing is its in the context in the game: after the gameplay slog of the Water Temple and the darkness of the Shadow Temple, here comes this unique, upbeat song that's unlike anything else in the game. Add to that the fact that you're entering the final area of the game, so there is also a sense of building momentum towards the end, which the uptempo song captures perfectly.

  • @cullenlatham2366

    @cullenlatham2366

    2 жыл бұрын

    well, that is assuming you save spirit for last, and that you didnt get it spoiled by completionist urges as a kid (with a bean spot, 2 heart pieces, and 2 g. skultulas) or adult (you dont even need the bow to clear the fortress, though it is helpful. heck, with enough skill, you dont even need the hookshot. On top of all that, the biggoron sword quest will take you to the gorge, and it is one that is more beneficial to do early). With all the chances to have the music spoiled, it can seem impossible to save spirit temple for last, as the music will unconsciously attract players to the area the moment it is available. Then comes a case to be made that spirit is intended before shadow, as there is evidence for both.

  • @sanoichiro

    @sanoichiro

    2 жыл бұрын

    Agreed for sure. It is very good to have such fresh energy at that point in the game. It reminds me of the Dark World theme in Link to the Past as that song serves a similar role in reinvigorating you while at the same time giving the game a more mature feel. It's hard to put into words.

  • @Ryleeman54number2

    @Ryleeman54number2

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@cullenlatham2366 I always goto Gerudo Valley last because its so far out of the damn way, and honestly I think the area is a bit annoying

  • @rinbin9772

    @rinbin9772

    2 жыл бұрын

    It's wild to me some people consider the spirit temple the last one instead of shadow. Looking at the crest for medallions in the UI even hints at shadow being the final destination as it's the last medallion clockwise from the light medallion with forest being the first (where you're encouraged and expected to go first once you begin exploring temples).

  • @cullenlatham2366

    @cullenlatham2366

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@rinbin9772 there is evidence for both. The medallion wheel is the go-to for the shadow argument, but Navi says spirit last, prelude warping away straight to light arrows, the dungeon being the most mechanically complex in the game, the eye of truth is needed to reach spirit and is more a shadow item, hover boots help with deep sand mobility, and finalizing young link's story before the final boss are all suggest spirit is intended as last.

  • @ddddavyy8383
    @ddddavyy8383 Жыл бұрын

    For me, this song always signified that you where heading toward the end of your quest, and was an accompanying track to spur you on, as if to say "this is it, keep going you're almost done". It really helps get you into the last long treck of your journey

  • @valsevenav

    @valsevenav

    Жыл бұрын

    This is a really great take, I had the exact same experience with it!

  • @LosLibrosNosHacenLibres
    @LosLibrosNosHacenLibres2 жыл бұрын

    Hi! As an Andalusian I have to say that everything you say is just perfect. About the trumpets, the way they are played reminds me of 'Semana Santa', or Easter, a Christian holiday in where trumpets are the one or maybe the main instrument. It may make sense with the idea of mixed culture, islamic and christian, that you say in the video. Great work!

  • @SingingSealRiana

    @SingingSealRiana

    11 ай бұрын

    muslim ruled andalusian is one of the best examples in human history for religions peacefuly coexisting. like it was not perfect, nothing ever is, but it was way better then when chritianity took over, outlawed other religions and invented the inquisition to hunt jews . . .

  • @piousthepious
    @piousthepious2 жыл бұрын

    As someone interested in European catholic churches and Gregorian chanting, I would definitely LOVE a video analyzing the temple of time no matter how long. Literally it was what I first looked for in the playlist and I’m glad you at least mentioned the reason why you haven’t done so yet!

  • @sacredyveltal4688

    @sacredyveltal4688

    Жыл бұрын

    OMG Same! I'm leaving this comment here just in case the uploader replies! Oh and if I see anything I'll post a _link_ in a separate reply or something

  • @piousthepious

    @piousthepious

    Жыл бұрын

    @@sacredyveltal4688 Thanks so much haha!

  • @sacredyveltal4688

    @sacredyveltal4688

    Жыл бұрын

    @@piousthepious You are welcome, fellow history nerd! 📚📜

  • @sacredyveltal4688

    @sacredyveltal4688

    Жыл бұрын

    @engineer gaming I noticed it! How cool is that! ^^ Maybe that means we will get a video related to that topic soon :0

  • @VultureSausage

    @VultureSausage

    Жыл бұрын

    One year later and Zak delivers. kzread.info/dash/bejne/h3phsLmkodDVec4.html

  • @LynxWolf9309
    @LynxWolf93092 жыл бұрын

    So I Just binged the whole series you've made for an hour. And I love listening to the history and architecture of the different Temples and the way the music was created and put together. Really puts a cool perspective and makes me have even more respect for the series. Now I'm waiting for this one amazing!!! :DD

  • @ScalesOfSerenity

    @ScalesOfSerenity

    2 жыл бұрын

    Me too!!!

  • @echothebm

    @echothebm

    2 жыл бұрын

  • @Tazerboy_10

    @Tazerboy_10

    2 жыл бұрын

    Same, but I did that awhile back...

  • @tremblence

    @tremblence

    2 жыл бұрын

    You gloss over the muslim invasion of Spain.... don't mention the massacres The Christians reclaimed that was STOLEN from them which you basically slandered and tried to demonize This video tries to demonize Christians, in reality it was muslims who invaded and massacred them.... the Spanish had EVERY RIGHT to reclaim their land with force We should respect all cultures, not constantly try to demonize Europeans and Christianity... if Zelda OOT was made today, I guarantee they would try to demonize Europeans with it

  • @ChubCoder

    @ChubCoder

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@tremblence what are you on about? It's a video showing certain references, that's it. STFU and enjoy or leave.

  • @xenorayy
    @xenorayy Жыл бұрын

    The way you explain how the instruments play different melodies makes me imagine this whole song as a dance, this track is immortal at this point, we'll be hearing for years to come

  • @Matthew-zs8nm
    @Matthew-zs8nm2 жыл бұрын

    And more than 20 years later, I'm still learning more and more about how much of a true masterpiece this game really was. This video is incredible. Thanks so much!

  • @Telverston

    @Telverston

    11 ай бұрын

    agreed. Try also, Ocarina of Time - A Masterclass in Subtext, if you haven't already.

  • @fuarkstyle

    @fuarkstyle

    10 ай бұрын

    IS*

  • @MaxiGoethling
    @MaxiGoethling2 жыл бұрын

    Just a little info: Midi is not an audio format, it's a control protocol that only contains instructions. The way those instructions are interpreted determines how it sounds. Many modern orchestral soundtracks are written completely in midi with virtual instruments and often you don't even notice it.

  • @einarmb

    @einarmb

    2 жыл бұрын

    I came for this, and was not disappointed.

  • @yiurock4084

    @yiurock4084

    Жыл бұрын

    @@einarmb that's what she said

  • @BlackEpyon

    @BlackEpyon

    Жыл бұрын

    It leaves a lot of room for the sound device interpreting that control protocol, in determining how it sounds. That''s why sound cards like the Sound Blaster Awe-32 and Awe-64, and especially external MIDI devices like the Roland MT-32, are popular (and expensive) among retro-computer collectors. They can turn a (relatively) boring retro-game's MIDI soundtrack into an orchestral performance.

  • @catfishvonbaron

    @catfishvonbaron

    Жыл бұрын

    @@BlackEpyon With that said, can the games original soundtrack be turned into an orchestral masterpiece using the same method?

  • @BlackEpyon

    @BlackEpyon

    Жыл бұрын

    @@catfishvonbaron 90's game MIDIs sound REALLY good on a Roland, but if you're looking for an orchestra, you'd probably need more than 9 channels.

  • @JeffreydeKogel
    @JeffreydeKogel2 жыл бұрын

    I really like how you link real world history to ingame aspects; it's like taking a theoretical peek into the minds of the creators and their possible inspiration.

  • @paranoid_moose

    @paranoid_moose

    2 жыл бұрын

    It’s almost like hidden world building, much like the journals you’d find in Breath of the Wild

  • @ero_bernal1767
    @ero_bernal17672 жыл бұрын

    As an andalucian, I am very impressed by your explanation of the flamenco elements in the song. Well done :)

  • @phosphophyllite4591
    @phosphophyllite45912 жыл бұрын

    As an Andalussian myself its really interesting hearing foreigners talk about all this: Its, pun intended, music to my ears.

  • @isaac3127
    @isaac31272 жыл бұрын

    Literally watched all the temple music videos again a couple days ago and I’m so glad this is finally coming out

  • @kmratliff6592
    @kmratliff65922 жыл бұрын

    I love that you slipped in the theme from the Aztec level from DK64. Both of these tracks slap and bring back so many memories for me.

  • @oachkatzl7737

    @oachkatzl7737

    Жыл бұрын

    same, i was like: 'wait ist that..? it is! i love it!'

  • @MyHam-os4bq
    @MyHam-os4bq2 жыл бұрын

    Upbeat, but mournful and tense is such a great way to describe this song. The sound completely drowns you in nostalgia. I recently started replaying ocarina of time. I hadn’t heard this song in over 20 years but soon as I heard this in Gerudo Valley I was instantly transported back to my childhood. Suddenly, it was the only part of the map I ACTUALLY remembered. Awesome video.

  • @LazyNVersions
    @LazyNVersions Жыл бұрын

    I’ve always loved the Gerudo, when I was younger I didn’t notice Ganon was a Gerudo himself but it never diminished even after learning he was. Tall red haired all woman tribe? Well as an average height red haired woman I love the Gerudo, and the song always catches me off guard but it’s probably the main reason I keep staying in that area. I’m glad you made this video, it’s a cool one :D

  • @NibNibNib

    @NibNibNib

    Жыл бұрын

    Not only are they incredibly cool, but the Gerudo swordswomen being the only thing in the game that comes off as more skilled in combat than link is awesome. They flip, block and actually feel pretty smart compared to regular enemies

  • @jaehaalexander1172
    @jaehaalexander11722 жыл бұрын

    God I love this song. I love all of the content of your channel but I do have to say as someone who grew up with Zelda and LOVES music this series is my absolute favorite! I love how you break down all the cultural references and history and then just the music itself is just *chef's kiss* don't worry about the time it took! For the quality these videos are I'm sure many of us are willing to wait! What are you thinking of covering next? What is your next favorite Zelda song that you would like to break down?

  • @SaveDataTeam

    @SaveDataTeam

    2 жыл бұрын

    I might look into deku palace next before hopping into another game. I wanted to do a general vid covering ocarina songs, but 8 bit music theory kind of covered that, and I love his stuff. So maybe that or the clocktown music from Majora’s.

  • @jaehaalexander1172

    @jaehaalexander1172

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@SaveDataTeam ohhhhh!! That music SLAPS! I look forward to your next musical analysis!

  • @KathrynBurke713
    @KathrynBurke7132 жыл бұрын

    I missed seeing these videos on analyzing the LoZ music! I'm so happy that your doing another video on it again! Can't wait to watch this!

  • @MrJdcirbo
    @MrJdcirbo Жыл бұрын

    One of the strumming techniques common in flamenco (and showcased in the live recreation shown in the video) is called a "rasgueado" and it's performed by sequentially strumming the strings with all of the fingers of the right hand.

  • @willardlarkinsnow5622
    @willardlarkinsnow5622 Жыл бұрын

    This song alone made me love the Gerudo Valley portion of the game. It sounds like pure adventure

  • @Gboysonic
    @Gboysonic2 жыл бұрын

    Gerudo valley has always been my favorite song from the zelda series. I even listen to the smash bros remix of it for the extra flare they put into it. I hope you do zora's domain theme next. Ocarina of time as well as the updated version they did in twilight princess

  • @eve_the_human

    @eve_the_human

    2 жыл бұрын

    I did that too with Smash Bros!!😅

  • @cuterpooter

    @cuterpooter

    2 жыл бұрын

    The Smash remix is one of the few times I'd say a remix is better than an original. There's a 15 minute loop version of it on KZread that is my go-to "time to tackle some mentally taxing project" theme music 🎶

  • @silentspirit8923
    @silentspirit89232 жыл бұрын

    Gerudo Valley was my childhood! The music was so upbeat and gave a sense of mystery. The desert is a mysterious place, who know what secrets lay deep beneath the sands. And I agree, IT ABSOLUTELY SLAPS!

  • @SaveDataTeam

    @SaveDataTeam

    2 жыл бұрын

    🙌

  • @damiansaucedo9951
    @damiansaucedo9951 Жыл бұрын

    I learned this song on guitar and now I'm learning the song on piano 10 years later, Why? Because it indeed freakin slaps.

  • @TruePartyKing
    @TruePartyKing Жыл бұрын

    Wow, learning about the complexities of the song legit made me cry tears of beautiful admiration. You have earned a sub good sir!

  • @graham9125
    @graham91252 жыл бұрын

    It's a very common practice to play the Dominant (V) chord as a major when playing in a minor key because the 3rd and b7th notes of the Major V7 chord both (use chromatic motion to) "lead" into the 1st and the 5th notes of the Tonic (I/i) Chord. This is why even though the Major V isn't technically a diatonic chord in minor, it still sees plenty of practical use, especially when used in the 4th barre of a measure, followed by a I.

  • @vinh_em

    @vinh_em

    2 жыл бұрын

    Exactly. Save Data said that that leading tone is subverting expectations because it is an altered note of the scale, but I actually believe that most people expect a dominant V chord in any flamenco/flamenco-adjacent songs. Think about the Andalusian cadence for example. i-VII-VI-V sounds more natural than i-VII-VI-v

  • @Whatismusic123

    @Whatismusic123

    2 жыл бұрын

    Because the guy who made this video has no clue what he is talking about

  • @jordicorfont
    @jordicorfont2 жыл бұрын

    Hi, I just want to add that the G# in the melody is a passing note. It's the most common note out chord in melodies. So it's no strange the strong use of it. Good video!

  • @monoverantus

    @monoverantus

    2 жыл бұрын

    I was gonna say the same. A passing note that stays within the implied scale is probably the least unexpected part of the song.

  • @h3o635

    @h3o635

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yeah this was the only thing in the vid that kind of had me scratching my head… like every melody out there has passing notes, music would be boring without them. That and saying the trumpet part was harmony, when it is unison at first. Loved the vid regardless.

  • @jacobcowan3599

    @jacobcowan3599

    2 жыл бұрын

    Also, when playing the chord and emphasizing the note to show its dissonance, you played a G natural instead of a G sharp. The G sharp is waaaay less dissonant in that chord, especially when it's up the octave.

  • @oneilmw

    @oneilmw

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yes, the history lesson was much more enlightening than the music theory lesson, and I'm not generally a fan of history, and I am generally a fan of music, so that's saying something.

  • @lon8005

    @lon8005

    Жыл бұрын

    @@jacobcowan3599 thank you i was looking for this comment for so long

  • @Brittow
    @Brittow Жыл бұрын

    Koji Kondo is an absolute master. Definitely my favorite Zelda song

  • @SmartDrug
    @SmartDrug2 жыл бұрын

    I'm blown away at the detail and complexity you delved into here. I've always loved this song, thank you for allowing me to further explore it.

  • @JuanYusteDelValle
    @JuanYusteDelValle2 жыл бұрын

    Spaniard here and I can only say: Wow. Thoroughly researched. Amazing video

  • @jbeckwith4097
    @jbeckwith40972 жыл бұрын

    Having a V chord in a minor key with a sharp 3rd isn't that crazy, particularly given that the next chord is a i. It makes a very basic and common cadential figure. It would probably stand out more to a Western listener if the 3rd weren't made sharp, (A minor v chord) giving it a more modal sound.

  • @fernandogiongo

    @fernandogiongo

    2 жыл бұрын

    I also found that statement misleading. The major V chord in the minor mode is absolutely conventional. Also when he calls out a passing tone as something unusual.

  • @Whatismusic123

    @Whatismusic123

    2 жыл бұрын

    Videos like this only exist to make the people that like the music to feel like they are superior for liking it

  • @McLovin201

    @McLovin201

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@fernandogiongo especially since it shares most notes with an F diminished. Leads perfectly into the F#m

  • @nloc1929

    @nloc1929

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yeah, he didn't really analyse what was going on musically very well. All of the things he mentioned were very surface level observations and didn't explain why the piece is so well constructed. Aside from the points already mentioned about passing tones and using a raised seventh being so common it's basically irrelevant, he ignored the entire B section and just called it "continuing the melody", he didn't mention the structure of the melody and the use of repetition through systems, the subtle changes in the ends of each phrase to create interest, etc. It was a good video, but the musical analysis was effectively pointless.

  • @Whatismusic123

    @Whatismusic123

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@nloc1929 no it was absolutely a bad videp, he has absolutely no clue what he is talking about and most of his argument is likely second-hand

  • @arcticmoon5230
    @arcticmoon52302 жыл бұрын

    This was the first song I ever learned to play on my guitar, I was so in love with this song and all the others from OoT and MM that I learned the guitar just to play these melodies. I never realized just how rich the history of this song was, it makes me ecstatic to be playing a song with such interesting lore.

  • @Jay_Ira
    @Jay_Ira2 жыл бұрын

    I didn't need another reason to love this amazing song. But thank you so much for enlightening me with the history lesson and cultural significance! What a true masterpiece and artist we were blessed with. Take care my friend, looking forward to the next one!

  • @LoveCrumb
    @LoveCrumb2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you so much for continuing this series! This is truly the most interesting Zelda series that exists on youtube that I've found so far. I LOVE how you go into depth on the historical references and influences before you go into more detail on the music composition. It enhances my appreciation for the music and makes the lore behind Zelda even richer! I've turned my dad into a Zelda music fan thanks to your videos!

  • @SaveDataTeam

    @SaveDataTeam

    2 жыл бұрын

    Aw thank you! 😅 I’m glad you and your dad enjoy it!

  • @jackmyowl
    @jackmyowl2 жыл бұрын

    The acapella version of this song is really awesome as well. Smooth McGoove did a cover, it's even better with the captions on 🤣

  • @Al-cp2kg

    @Al-cp2kg

    2 жыл бұрын

    Butter it up, up

  • @jackmyowl

    @jackmyowl

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Al-cp2kg you got the reference!

  • @tossingturnips
    @tossingturnips Жыл бұрын

    The Gerudo Valley theme has always been my favorite OoT song and I love how deep you went into the cultural influences as well as history of those influences that helped Kondo create this banger. As you mentioned in your video going over all the ocarina tracks in the game, the limitations definitely helped foster creativity.

  • @tellmeaboutyourgame314
    @tellmeaboutyourgame3142 жыл бұрын

    Brought an actual tear to my eye . Your analysis is doing my nostalgia justice

  • @dwarch186
    @dwarch1862 жыл бұрын

    I'd say that the Gerudo Fortress was inspired more by the Cliff Palace at Mesa Verde. It even has the cliff overhang above. Thanks for another great video!

  • @masterbasura1
    @masterbasura12 жыл бұрын

    I met you with your "Ace Attorney with an Actual Lawyer" videos, because I'm spanish and I wanted learn more english (and I like Ace Attorney), but I love these videos too! I love how you explained the cultural references from the Gerudo Valley Theme, I was with a smile in my face when you started talking about the spanish guitar and the moor influence, this last because I remember studied it a years ago. Our culture is a beautiful thing, and I love it reaches so many people, thank you

  • @SaveDataTeam

    @SaveDataTeam

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you so much!! (And your English is great! I wouldn’t have known you are still learning! 😁)

  • @masterbasura1

    @masterbasura1

    2 жыл бұрын

  • @OGBuddah
    @OGBuddah2 жыл бұрын

    It feels good to know I am not alone in feeling this song is special in some way, but to think someone actually did the work to answer that question is absolutely awesome! Thank you for the hard work good Sir. This is very much appreciated. Side note: Years ago I found an OC remix of this song and somehow they turned what was already amazing into something beyond greatness. Again, simply my opinion and I hold no vested interest nor know the artist, but it deserves to be known. If someone is curious, a quick search for "Mamacitas in My Valley" by Diggi Dis will answer any questions.

  • @TheQuashingoftheTub
    @TheQuashingoftheTub Жыл бұрын

    Man this song was so influential to me and my sisters. My sis arranged this for her senior orchestra song, and I used to have this memorized on piano lol

  • @Aquiles_Maciel
    @Aquiles_Maciel2 жыл бұрын

    OMG! I can't wait for this new video! Your work is amazing!

  • @n3loangelo
    @n3loangelo2 жыл бұрын

    I love the breakdown of history that goes into this. Thank you for another awesome video!

  • @SaveDataTeam

    @SaveDataTeam

    2 жыл бұрын

    Happy that folks are enjoying it!

  • @joeo3377
    @joeo33772 жыл бұрын

    As a note, the Shakespeare play "Othello" is pronounced with the "th" sound (as in "the" or "with"; θ). The Verdi opera "Otello," which is based on the Shakespeare play, is pronounced with the hard "t".

  • @SaveDataTeam

    @SaveDataTeam

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yeah, it’s the weird thing, where my degree is actually in acting, but I was surrounded by so many opera people who all said “Otello” growing up, that it has stuck with me for so long 😰

  • @joeo3377

    @joeo3377

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@SaveDataTeam It took me a while to realize that the two different pronunciations refer to two different works! No worries, just trying to be helpful.

  • @WilliamAhlert

    @WilliamAhlert

    2 жыл бұрын

    I LOVE OTELLO. LOVE IT. SO GOOD. AH.

  • @emebent

    @emebent

    Жыл бұрын

    As a note, you provided an incorrect example 😂 the voiced th in “the” is not the same as the unvoiced th in “Othello.”

  • @joeo3377

    @joeo3377

    Жыл бұрын

    @@emebent They sound the same to my ears, so does that make us both wrong?

  • @alw06git
    @alw06git Жыл бұрын

    I absolutely LOVE the time and research you put into detailing the history, architecture, & culture portions of these videos. I hope you decide to dedicate a video series to that in video games. I could watch you present that stuff for hours man, it is so fascinating to me

  • @KBBeats
    @KBBeats2 жыл бұрын

    Such a nostalgic and unforgettable piece.

  • @aegisring
    @aegisring2 жыл бұрын

    I love all of your videos, they are always so fun to watch, you always learn something cool and I really enjoy that. Thanks for the videos

  • @ketanhein
    @ketanhein2 жыл бұрын

    Yes!!! I've been waiting for new content like this!! Please keep doing these videos

  • @soulfullyginger.9804
    @soulfullyginger.98042 жыл бұрын

    This song brings back memories of riding the bluffs in a four banger with a burned CD of video game music. This one was on repeat. Great job, quality content.

  • @scratchedaviators1254
    @scratchedaviators12542 жыл бұрын

    Dope I loved your coverage on the 64 bit era Zelda osts. Awesome to see the series still alive.

  • @alignthestars
    @alignthestars Жыл бұрын

    This is one of those songs that, no matter how many times I've heard it (and no matter the iteration) - it just makes me emotional because of how GOOD it is. Thank you so much for the history behind the song - it makes me love it even more!

  • @scoleosis3569
    @scoleosis35692 жыл бұрын

    Please do more of these. they are SOOOO good! I would love to hear about the music in all the other Zelda games as well. I didn't know I needed this until I heard it.

  • @zeldaenby224
    @zeldaenby2242 жыл бұрын

    I've missed this series

  • @ModelsAtWar
    @ModelsAtWar2 жыл бұрын

    I absolutely love that you used DK64 Angry Aztec ost as background music for a part of the video. Now it makes me want some more music analysis from other games like DK (and Banjo) possibly with commentary included by Grant Kirkhope and/or David Wise.

  • @RSquaredOnline
    @RSquaredOnline Жыл бұрын

    This may just be the best made video I've ever watched on KZread in the last 10 years. The breakdown and reintroduction of the instruments gave me chills.

  • @robertadamsx2
    @robertadamsx2 Жыл бұрын

    God, Koji Kondo is such a genius music writer. One of the greatest in, not just video game music composition, but music as a whole.

  • @sdw-hv5ko
    @sdw-hv5ko2 жыл бұрын

    damn the historical and cultural analysis provided in this video is amazing, adds so much depth to the world-building of the game

  • @GlyphicEnigma
    @GlyphicEnigma2 жыл бұрын

    When you think about the great musical geniuses of history, you may think Mozart, Bach, etc. I think Koji Kondo. Guy really has a way with sounds.

  • @Plepsfoko

    @Plepsfoko

    2 жыл бұрын

    It may sound like over praising but I really think it’s true. He’s influenced and inspired thousands, if not millions of people and has written multiple songs that cut straight to my core and make me cry like nothing else. He’s my favorite composer by far

  • @JustMarty

    @JustMarty

    2 жыл бұрын

    Can't forget Nobuo Uematsu.

  • @Ryleeman54number2

    @Ryleeman54number2

    2 жыл бұрын

    I kind of agree. I more place him with the likes of John Williams and Danny Elfman

  • @Whatismusic123

    @Whatismusic123

    2 жыл бұрын

    LMAO absolutely not

  • @Whatismusic123

    @Whatismusic123

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Plepsfoko your emotions don't matter and do not impact the quality of his music

  • @dennisgallaher3640
    @dennisgallaher36402 жыл бұрын

    I still fondly remember the first time I entered Gerudo valley and heard this amazing theme for the first time. Great video.

  • @DenghisDONG
    @DenghisDONG2 жыл бұрын

    This is the first time in a long time where seeing a new video has gotten me so excited.

  • @wasosky1000
    @wasosky10002 жыл бұрын

    Hey man, this is a great video! I just wanted to point out that you played a G at 11:35 instead of a G#

  • @BlueMeeple

    @BlueMeeple

    2 жыл бұрын

    Needed to browse this far down in the comments to see that I wasn't imagining things.

  • @cactusowo1835

    @cactusowo1835

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@BlueMeeple same

  • @elgato9o
    @elgato9o2 жыл бұрын

    OMG HOW I'VE WAITED FOR SOMETHING LIKE THIS AGAIN. BEST MUSIC SERIES ON ALL OF KZread

  • @Oldrockking93
    @Oldrockking93 Жыл бұрын

    Whaaaat an excellent analysis. THANK YOU for this, this was both beautiful and well constructed as well as marvelously educational and now i feel like i appreciate my favorite video game track 10 times more now that i understand its proper history. Youve added depth to something for me I've been captivated with for almost 25 years. Thank you

  • @GhibliNova
    @GhibliNova Жыл бұрын

    coolest video game analysis I've ever seen. I love history, so seeing all this tied together... *chefs kiss*

  • @fredrickgamer9128
    @fredrickgamer91282 жыл бұрын

    Wow. I didn't know that there was this much history behind game music. This was a very entertaining and educational video.

  • @mathewmcgee8029
    @mathewmcgee80292 жыл бұрын

    Right around 5:59 you call Twin Rova Twin Mold on accident. Great video, I look forward to the Temple of Time deep dive on cathedrals, gregorian chant & the sages.

  • @andresgarciadecortazarbaez1512

    @andresgarciadecortazarbaez1512

    2 жыл бұрын

    The best part is the fact that in the stone tower temple video, he called Twinmold Twinrova lmao

  • @RickyBBlessed

    @RickyBBlessed

    2 жыл бұрын

    I think its a running joke

  • @mathewmcgee8029

    @mathewmcgee8029

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@RickyBBlessed I'd love that.

  • @SaveDataTeam

    @SaveDataTeam

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yeah, after I got inundated with comments on the stone tower video correcting me, I wanted to see how many people would notice if I said it wrong here too 😅

  • @LuizFRdeO
    @LuizFRdeO Жыл бұрын

    I parachuted into this video upon searching for content discussing the music in Zelda. this is great. fantastic work man. thank you for your channel.

  • @Werewolf914
    @Werewolf9142 жыл бұрын

    I love this series so much, the history, the breakdown of the song it's self, everything, I hope to see more in the future.

  • @XXIII_89
    @XXIII_892 жыл бұрын

    Took you long enough to make another one! Keep em coming! These are so well done!

  • @superluigi2965
    @superluigi29652 жыл бұрын

    Love the Gerudo Valley theme! It always gets me pumped when I hear it!

  • @SaveDataTeam

    @SaveDataTeam

    2 жыл бұрын

    It is a certified banger!

  • @LuzByT
    @LuzByT Жыл бұрын

    hi an andaluz here. Just wanna say that I freaking love this video and that thanks to u I realise that Gan is a ruman, a hot ruman, Hyrule is like Spain, France and some other parts of the world mixed and that Zelda could be an Austria's family member. Nice.

  • @selenopheria
    @selenopheria Жыл бұрын

    That was immensely fascinating, thank you for sharing!

  • @TheDJman248
    @TheDJman2482 жыл бұрын

    excellent video. Found the cultural aspect of it all very interesting! Just one simple little goof I noticed: 5:59 Pretty sure the boss' name is Twinrova, with Twinmold being a boss in Majora's Mask. That's all!

  • @DDRMAX300

    @DDRMAX300

    2 жыл бұрын

    Noticed that too, Koume and Kotake, their fusion or whatever it was (the younger looking boss with both ice and fire powers) is the one called Twinrova

  • @Professor_Wisteria_
    @Professor_Wisteria_ Жыл бұрын

    having lived in Spain, i can safely say this song embodies the spirit of flamenco perfectly. it's incredible

  • @TheDarkopsis
    @TheDarkopsis2 жыл бұрын

    I just discovered your channel with this video and that's a BIG YES. Thanks for the hard work, it really pays off as the video is fluid and enjoyable. It won't be the last time I watch it for sure ! God I'm thankful for the internet people, making quality content so that I can educate myself a little on such interesting topics !

  • @fizzybubbles715
    @fizzybubbles715 Жыл бұрын

    Thank you so much for these! I’ve only played A Link to the Past, Ocarina of Time, & Majora’s Mask & their music is one of my favorite parts. Learning about the history through these videos is so enlightening. I can’t wait to see more of these!

  • @point-five-oh6249
    @point-five-oh62492 жыл бұрын

    I don't know how to play guitar, but strangely enough I was able to catch on to everything going on since I do play the tuba/sousaphone (and damn good at tuba I might add). I absolutely loved all the music from the N64 LoZ games. Truly wonderful pieces of music with complexity, yet easy to follow along with, which makes it more easily liked by people that may not be big music nerds. Nintendo really needs to make a solid remaster of Ocarina of Time and Majora's Mask. Even if they don't have the time to mess with it, they will find thousands of independent developers (I also graduated school for game dev) who would be more than willing to bring their favorite classics back to life, for the sake of nostalgia itself.

  • @cjc324
    @cjc324 Жыл бұрын

    Spoiler alert: in 2023 he spends a whole video telling you how the temple of time is based on a European Catholic Church with the music based on Gregorian Chant lmaooo

  • @AkaFox5
    @AkaFox52 жыл бұрын

    Thank you so much for this video! It was incredibly interesting!

  • @clank4442
    @clank44422 жыл бұрын

    Dude, this video literally just made me grow as a person to try and understand things for a deeper meaning. Thank you.

  • @ModelsAtWar
    @ModelsAtWar2 жыл бұрын

    Man, if KZread existed when I was a kid, and I had these videos. I actually probably would’ve went down an entirely different life path and went into Music. Great work!

  • @les5503
    @les55032 жыл бұрын

    Yoooo I did a lot of research into the Middle Eastern influence on Spanish culture and music in my college music classes, so I was delighted to hear you talk about that. Super nostalgic now haha. It's fascinating, and this is a great video! Also bold choice to open yourself up to more Twinmold/Twinrova comments, I laughed out loud when I heard that lol

  • @SaveDataTeam

    @SaveDataTeam

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you!! I was proud of that subtle joke 😅 we’ll see how many people tell me I said the wrong name 😂

  • @charliehray
    @charliehray2 жыл бұрын

    The history lesson is awesome here but music theory people steer clear of the back half of this video haha. G naturals play while “G#” appears onscreen at around 11:45 when speaking about passing tones and the video also asserts that, in the key of F#m, the C# chord is rarely minor… choices!

  • @OmegaLisk0
    @OmegaLisk0 Жыл бұрын

    Gotta love discovering a new channel, always makes my day. Great video, cheers!

  • @SaveDataTeam

    @SaveDataTeam

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks!

  • @SpydeyDan
    @SpydeyDan2 жыл бұрын

    OoT came out the same year as The Mask of Zorro, and the music of Gerudo Valley permanently connected the two in my mind.

  • @masonschwalm2010
    @masonschwalm20102 жыл бұрын

    2:45 I believe it’s pronounced “Moops”

  • @TheGreen8Ball

    @TheGreen8Ball

    2 жыл бұрын

    I'm sorry the card says Moops

  • @zachindes
    @zachindes Жыл бұрын

    These were excellent to watch! Finally made it to the end

  • @connorhart2793
    @connorhart27932 жыл бұрын

    Great video, really nice insights!

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