How do you turn some simple, but amazing riffs into a complicated mess?!?

@johnsalaman503

2 жыл бұрын

Yes that was atrocious I couldn't believe Mike could sound that bad even if he tried to.. Prob made in china

@aggzish

11 ай бұрын

You get hal Leonard on it.

Next week: „How the Easy Guitar-book for Dream Theater broke my wrists“

@zacdostal3989

2 жыл бұрын

I want to see this made into a video right now

I once played on a hit record and was very excited to see that the song had been transcribed in a guitar magazine, but when I looked at the tabliture.(which I read very slowly, by the way). It was NOTHING like what I'd actually played. It wasn't even in the same position on the neck.! I've kept it as a souvenir, because it's simply amazing. I suppose the transcriber was a real guitarist and trying to think out theoretically what I SHOULD have been playing instead of what I really was playing. Fun FACT: I was playing a slide guitar for the first time and my slide was a BIC Pen.

@zed3821

2 жыл бұрын

What’s the record ?

@gerardwaysway5999

2 жыл бұрын

@@zed3821 i guess we'll never know it seems

@Punttipate62

Жыл бұрын

What's the record?

I swear Mike is the cool Dad that everyone wishes were their dad.

@TheJimmyp427

2 жыл бұрын

I never had a dad either

@sinisterminister6478

2 жыл бұрын

No that would be me 😂😂

@mirata7748

2 жыл бұрын

I want him to be my teacher so bad but I don't live in the usa

@Rangotz

2 жыл бұрын

he is our biological step-dad

@shockedbatman2377

2 жыл бұрын

İm sorry dad for liking this

If Kurt wrote the songs like the tab book suggests and it sounded like that, I'm pretty sure he would have been back to living under the bridge within a few weeks

Now it finally makes sense why there seems to be contention whether this song is in F#m or Dm... I looked into the song the first time my bass student came in since I had heard he'd been learning it, and most of the tabs and chord sheets online were convinced it's in Dm and I was like "no way is this right." And then when the kid came over, he played it in Dm as well.

@MrChopsticktech

2 жыл бұрын

I leave my bass in standard tuning and just play everything two frets lower. The song only has a few riffs, so it is easier for me to do that.

I'm so glad I learned the Come as you are riff the right way.

@varuug

2 жыл бұрын

Whenever I play the opening riff, I just can't resist the urge to palm mute the 6th string.

This is the main reason I started my KZread channel. When I first started learning Ghost songs I'd have a look at online bass tabs for reference. As bad as you think guitar tabs are, bass is definitely worse! Totally wrong, or notes in the wrong octave or position. I thought, if I were a young kid today learning bass I'd pick up so many bad habits. So I decided to transcribe Ghost songs as accurately as possible, using live footage and decades of training my ear to pick out bass parts. With today's technology there's no reason for bad tabs, it just takes a little work. Sadly most won't put in the work. When I get comments saying my tabs are the best out there, I feel very proud.

@ReizokoRyu

2 жыл бұрын

Good on ya, buddy! Keep it up. There are many out there who will come to appreciate your effort - a hero for those less studied in music theory.

@anthonydorsey8402

2 жыл бұрын

You’re absolutely right a lot of bass tab is wrong I had and learned from every Metallica book there was only to find out all these years later they were mostly transcribed wrong

Someone needs to find and do an interview with the persons responsible for this atrocity. I'm sure someone can do some detective work and track them down.They can do the interview with the blurred out face and octave low voice.I would pay to see it.

It makes me really angry that people made money with these terrible books.

teenaged me used tab books to get in the neighborhood of where they were, then I’d hunt for the right sound. when Nevermind hit, I discovered that I could play & sound like Kurt, not like Jimi or Jimmy. that kept me going. I’m over 40 & play out 1-2 times a month. thanks, Kurt! I had to have success playing Nirvana covers in ‘90s junior high before I could get the feel & chops to play & sound like Jimi, Jimmy & pals. plus, the chics could care less about me nailing ‘Comm. Breakdown,’ but playing & singing ‘Breed, Lithium, Teen Spirit’ & the rest of Nevermind piqued the right interest at parties. I think I piqued 3 times in one night…maybe even 4.

The down-tuning on the album is also why it sounds different live, where it was played in standard (down half a step for the In Utero tour).

@lucascorrea8501

2 жыл бұрын

They played in january/february 92 tour, one step down, sounded so good especially the osaka concert

Early "easy-tab" books written in the early 80s sucked because (money-wise, especially) they were an off-shoot of "easy piano" books, and were written by staff-writers who only played piano. Then came a few people like Andy Aledort and Wolf Marshall, and they were MUCH better. Tab books suck today because they don't sell.

By the way, love your channel man!! Every video is mega enjoyable especially since I have so many similar experiences to what you address in your content. Keep up the fantastic work brother

The fact that Mike knows Mel Bay makes my heart warm

Cool video Mike. IMO the thing missing from these easy guitar books was the audio examples. Really interesting to hear you play through these

"Don't swear. Your dad is right out there"

@standinsilence

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah that was funny.

This is why I am going to write the tabs for my albums

Nirvana songs should be the first songs alot of guitar players learn, They are all easy and alot of them are just fun to play. Nirvana about a girl was the first song I learned in 1991 😂.

@JustASadBoi

2 жыл бұрын

My first song was every breath you take. Really good exercise and Message in a bottle is quite similar too its like learning 2 songs at once

@98voteforpedro

2 жыл бұрын

Mine was smells like teen spirit

@mirata7748

2 жыл бұрын

Message in my bottle is so good ngl

@ezraterry4219

2 жыл бұрын

About a girl was my first song too

@alexjake9223

2 жыл бұрын

Yup. Two chords and the truth

The nevermind tab book is kinda wild.. look at the chorus tabs for caya in that book.

@ReizokoRyu

2 жыл бұрын

C-Caya?!

@juanguillen51

2 жыл бұрын

@@ReizokoRyu Come As You Are

One of the first books I got as a beginner guitarist was a ginormous brown fake-book and I quickly found it to be relatively useless, wonder if there's something worthwhile in it now. I mean there must be SOME reason it was planted in my life.

I think this book could be useful for your ear. You're playing the vocal melody on guitar, and I used to have a hard time doing stuff like that. also perfect if you want to do Nirvana instrumentals lol. - just fatten it up with the actual chords

Can barely recognise anything you are playing from this TAB, its insane!

The funny part is that if you take this tab and put together with the original song, you can easily make a 2nd guitar line to the song that maybe will sound very cool in a band with 2 guitar players

Great video, would you be able to do an artist episode on Dave Navarro I’d love to hear you explain some of his best techniques

Man that kid sounded quite upset! I can understand his frustration though

I had the Cherry Lane Easy Guitar Use Your Illusion 1 tab book. I hated it because it had about a tenth of each song. But now I think about it decades later, even if it wasn't accurate it taught me some riffs and later down the line I could work them out better. Whoever transcribed 'Come As You Are' clearly wasn't trying to do what was on the record but something to accompany it. Like a ghost track.

Great work...Greetings from Sweden 🇸🇪

@the-art-of-guitar Check out the Megadeth tab book, Prime Cuts. I’m sure that’s a mess too. I swear it said the one little run in Mary Jane was in 13/8 but memory might be failing me. It also came with an example CD if I’m not mistaken.

Looked like the guy was trying to do a Chet Atkins interpretation of Nirvana... LMFAO!!

This explains so much thank you for this video

This explains so much 😆 I have that book somewhere in my room lmao

I love the fact you went with the Jaguar for this video.

Having 41 years old currently I can say I grow up on listening grunge music and Nirvana (that was my era of music) and it was the first band that song I used to learn on the guitar almost fully. As I remember in 1993 when I started to learn how to play the guitar I borrowed a copy of Come As You Are by Nirvana tab from my friend who copied from other guy's copy who probably also copied from other guitarist who bought original famous Guitar magazine. So I did a photocopy on Xerox and learned partly this song : intro, verse and the bridge. However I learn it on the classical guitar, so there was no guitar effects like Electro Harmonix chorus or Boss effects to even heard off somewhere or to buy at all. Actually I got known that they used this on record in 2005 - 2010 around. Anyway first 2 years of my guitar learning I used to learn both techniques on the classical guitar and electric guitar by playing it on classical guitar! Yeah, Hammer on and tapping on classical guitar 😄 You can imagine playing Acdc, Judas Priest or Jimi Hendrix on the classical guitar... In my country Poland in 90's or 80's there were almost none of acoustic guitars in music stores. Electric guitars as well were poor made and rare. Even if they were acoustic guitar (that is more popular in USA than classical guitar as for the beginners) here in Poland there where more like to buy similar classical shape guitar with metal strings at that time than real acoustic guitar. I used to learn on such guitar (made in 70s) borrowed by my mother from her friend family. I played it on the classical nylon strings. I think most of those tabs were transcribed into tabulatures by classical guitar players or classical teachers. It's looks like they adopted the grunge song to by played with no more extending than 5th fret. Anyway Mike thank you for showing us the difficulties in playing of ill-made tabs of Nirvana. It's looks that musical 🎼 🎶 notes were caught by ear by orchestrator and put on violin key with notes according to musical theory key, tonality and then transcribed into tabs. Or on the other hand it is visible that it can be played more or less well by reading musical notes only and not tabs at all, since there are hardly any special description in tabs for Electric guitar techniques like vibrato or slide. But I can't think it was a midi program who cracked the code and put the notes automatically on 5 lines and transcribed into tabs. Because it's looks like the whole description for electric guitar techniques were skipped. Greetings from Poland! 🇵🇱 🙋‍♂️ Tom

They are rhtym/melody hybrid books so you can play arrangements alone and they have a little more color....there used to be certain complaines that did tabs like the record and of course, guitar magazine...and they had awesome guys that knew theory and how to figure out what to play...sometimes they had the artists contribute as well. Tab is good if you get it from the right source

@johnsalaman503

2 жыл бұрын

Where does one seek for the (right source) in book form.

When i was learning, my tutors were teaching me ' money for nothing' and told me the bass part was the same as the guitar, how wrong they were.

doing some random time signature changes and metric modulation to some of those parts and turning them into math rock

Great video.

Man why couldn't you live stream.... I guess this will have to do..... miss ya Mike... your "THE ART OF GUITAR ONLINE SCHOOL" HAS BROUGHT MY MEMORY AND PLAYING A 180 BUT I STILL NEED TWEAKED..... 🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘👍

@TheArtofGuitar

2 жыл бұрын

Might LiveStream tonight (Fri). Not sure yet but probably.

@shepp7988

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheArtofGuitar thanks Mike.... I'm board as hell and got some apple 🍎 🧃 that's wild 101 and would love to play my brother's and I favorite Game "" NAME THAT RIFF"" YOU ARE THE MAN BROTHER AND I EMAILED YOU SOME PICTURES OF 31 OF MY GUITARS IN MY COLLECTION... Damn sorry about the caps this phone's acting up or it could be the apple juice either way you're the man

Is there any good tab books like kill em all or countdown to extinction or something

I want a full version of come as you are easy nirvana tab book.

I play nirvana from all the easy guitar tab books. I also play it the actual way and mix it up. Play it every way written as published, some might say you can always play a certain song better.

I bought the Easy Guitar Ozzy book when I was first starting out, same thing there, the tab went along with the vocals instead of the guitar. It annoyed me that I paid for this book and could only play intros to songs. My brother has the book now, I told him not to bother with it and just ask me if he wants to learn any Ozzy. He is just starting out himself and I don't want him to go through the same frustrations I did.

I have a Beatles complete book that did the same…it was not easy , you played the vocal melody etc:)

Can you prefer me which tabooks are good?

Hey! Don't knock Mary Had A Little Lamb. SRV crushed that song.

Mike can you do godsmack

I believe some of those could be transposed from partiture on somekind of software

Lol, anything with the word "easy" in it, run away fast

I’m on holiday and I bought this book and since I have no access to my guitar I couldn’t play it. I’m heading home tomorrow and I feel scammed before I even got to use it

I've thought about these books years ago. They could have included two parts for each song: one for "melody notation" and one for "guitar tab". The books would have been twice as many pages, and might cost a little more, but they would be far more useful to many more people and may have sold better.

Really love this bad tab series!

I can't read music or tabs. I learned by watching my teacher and just doing what he did. I know the chords. Wish I could read tabs now.

Wasn't this video supposed to be released before the previous one about the tabs?

Come As You Are: the glam rock edition

The "easy" in this is to never go beyond the 3 fret and to not introduced retuning. But I also have had students saying that the tab doesn't sound right.

@RtroyD

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah it's not meant to sound like the recording....they used to call them fake books....would just have chords and melodies....they are good for the acoustic players that like to play solo or to strum and sing along

My advice is to listen to your favourite songs and try and replicate what they are playing. It can be tedious at first, but it brings your playing on infinitely. And your ears.

@marvintimke3978

2 жыл бұрын

Did that one time, got close. But was still completely wrong xD I really need to train my ears.

@stratotele12

2 жыл бұрын

In theory I like this idea but the problem comes when someone thinks they have it right but it is way off and their ears aren't good enough to tell yet.

How did they get these things so wrong, so often? It's mind-blowing. Where was the quality control inside these record companies? Was there no one there who thought they should review these books before slapping their band and label names on them? It's amazing.

When my students bring these books in I literally want to throw them out the window. They’re pretty much made for people who only recognize songs by the vocals so they try to shoehorn the melody into the guitar parts. I get why it exists but come on mannnn

That sucks not only were people learning how to play songs wrong thinking they were right trying to play them for their friends and probably getting picked on because it didn’t sound right those books were expensive to

0:46 Sounds more like 22 faces - Garden of delight than Nirvana

New Iron Maiden today!

You should do this with alice in chains if they have a book

I want Freebird. Play Freebird!!!

These "early" guitar books were created by pianists who simply played the vocal melody and then that was converted to tabs in first position. Wala! "simple version!"

hello there mike

After experience and your videos, I'm convinced the people who wrote these books were famous guitarists just trolling people

"It sounded Asian, it was an Asian gang...it was some kind of Asian." - Sam Sweet

Oh I still have this abomination of a tab book🦝

"IT SOUNDS ASIAN" 💀

You look like a co worker of mine

How do you get any easier than original nirvana anyways ....

Well now I am glad I just stuck with OLGA and didn't spend my weed money on stupid tab books.

EASY is a relative term. It may be easy for advanced players, but not so much for beginners. The publisher isn’t going to title the book ‘Harder Than Actual’ Nirvana Tab book because they want to market it to all the rubes/noobs who just bought their first guitar.

I think they thought it was "easier" cause there's a bunch of open strings

bruh

Easy book were like Nirvana too easy we gots to make in more harder, 🤣

I had this book and I had the “official tab book” both rubbish I Should have really learned by ear

The tab sounded nothing like come as you are 😂

I remember looking at this book. Hart shap box in standard tuning. Sounds shit

I will tell you what might be more frustrating than the "Nirvana" TAB book; the E-Z Guitar "And Justice for All" TAB book, which puts the "normal" one to shame.

I learned this over the years, been collection guitar tab books since, 1989. If I see any book that says Easy Tab, I don't buy it.

Biggest Takeaway: Use your ear

Moral of the story. If a tab book has the word “easy,” it really isn’t! 🤦‍♂️

Power chords are a fuckload easier.

And remember: nothing you read in a book is ever wrong.

That book is for progressive grunge

Are there any "hard" nirvana songs? 😂

The guy who did the easy guitar tab transcription: 🤡🎸

I mean, i get what they were doing, but its wrong and not easy lol.

The tabs are intentionally bad to get young musicians appropriately ANGRY for grunge!

Does nirvana need an easy version? Lol.

Lol shitty tabs. Our plague

First!

FiRsT

That's why I stop following tabs.

@mindcontrol67

2 жыл бұрын

I'm pretty sure tabs that come from the Guitar World Mag are spot on.Earlier one's from the 80's maybe not so much.

first lol

@perpetualbystander4516

2 жыл бұрын

@@Minnevan Exactly! And what's funny is that her/his comment wasn't even the 1st one, but 2nd. 😅

@marvintimke3978

2 жыл бұрын

@@Minnevan Actually not. People give more shit about other people writing stupid stuff.

@ArienDH11

2 жыл бұрын

@@Minnevan get a grip my guy it isn't that serious

Lol not only is it not easy, it doesn't even sound good... What's the point?

Who makes these shitty books???? I mean it sounds nothing like Nirvana

It’s not an « easy guitar » book, but I guess I’ve found a kind of treasure (a lazy guitar book) 😄 As a bassist who want to improve my guitar skills, I’ve ordered the « Definitive AC/DC songbook…Updated Edition » (!!). I’ve received it today. I’ve first noticed that the « Have a drink on me » riff is missing the first « C » note from what I know but I was thinking: “ok, maybe that’s a bad interpretation from my side when I first learned it as I’m a 6 strings newbie, so ok”… I flip the pages, and I go to a classic: Highway to hell… Tried the solo (which is often stated as « not so much complicated »)…started it… and…well…wait…🧐 Where is the end of the solo??!!! 😱😄😄 I look at the page numbers, there is no page missing!! Only the 8 first bars of this classic!!!! Hal Leonard, what have you done??!! 😺 I could notice these 2 issues with my poor guitar level on the 5 first minutes of book use!! 😄 I bet there are some additional kind of issues on the 840 remaining pages (I expect not, but If we trust statistics…) 😄 Guess it could be a good candidate for a new video… 😉 Are some owners who agree?