Why TDS devs hate this tower

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  • @theneonwarriors3794
    @theneonwarriors3794 Жыл бұрын

    A good example for what to do is the necromancer, when it spawns skeletons that could make the towers attack them, allowing the necromancer to spawn more skeletons, while if you had the mortar it would easily take care of the skeletons, making it easier for your other towers to deal with it, this has made me lose lots of times and necromancers make me think to bring something like a mortar, which the traditional wave structure doesn’t do

  • @Demoman_FromTeamFortress2

    @Demoman_FromTeamFortress2

    Жыл бұрын

    Interesting example, but the worst moment with necromancers is wave 25, when they are spawning in amount 4, and maybe wave 19. But that's it, that's all the problems with negromancers

  • @jeraldbooner1503

    @jeraldbooner1503

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Demoman_FromTeamFortress2 i dont think the last word was necromancer

  • @a_kill3r

    @a_kill3r

    Жыл бұрын

    u could just counter it by setting ur tower's targetting to strongest

  • @Cyndasoul

    @Cyndasoul

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Demoman_FromTeamFortress2 then there’s glad, who out performs mortar Lmao. The only weakness for glad is it’s range

  • @Demoman_FromTeamFortress2

    @Demoman_FromTeamFortress2

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Cyndasoul Yeah

  • @Plavo2
    @Plavo2 Жыл бұрын

    Mortar must be a pain for the devs

  • @IAARPOTI

    @IAARPOTI

    Жыл бұрын

    They should hire at least one game level designer.

  • @Plavo2

    @Plavo2

    Жыл бұрын

    @@IAARPOTI They should but you also gotta consider that they only get paid in robux and dev ex isnt that profitable

  • @adriezhariff994

    @adriezhariff994

    Жыл бұрын

    yea right

  • @carmelabulacan9810

    @carmelabulacan9810

    Жыл бұрын

    Nah xrong stupid

  • @05-c

    @05-c

    Жыл бұрын

    They should make it so it has like a little gun that he has that he will use or like he spawns in like people who walk around and throw bombs at the zombies

  • @boredbrocc
    @boredbrocc Жыл бұрын

    i remember the time when shields were introduced along with the templar and the only way to combat them was either high fire rates or explosions which bypassed the shield which made towers such as pursuit and rocketeer to pretty much be an essential part of a loadout if you wanted to kill the templar quickly for things such as hidden wave

  • @oneunholyhearrt
    @oneunholyhearrt Жыл бұрын

    This video clears a lot of things up for me and has a lot of agreeable points. My friend and I have been looking for new games to play and finally came back to roblox after a year or so and were immediately attracted to the Polluted Wastelands and Pizza Party levels because of the challenge it gave us VS the standard maps. This is really something because we are VERY PICKY with games and will game hop often, the fact that we were given something to think about and strategize gave us motivation to continue playing, we couldn’t walk away knowing “I couldn’t beat this” our pride wouldn’t let us! I’m saying all this to say, YES, TDS definitely needs to provide these changes to mortar and rework the mobs because without the alternative levels we would have probably stayed away from this game too. 😅 Nonetheless, this video was well spoken and informative, you’ve just earned yourself another subscriber. 🎉

  • @Tastyelephant352
    @Tastyelephant352 Жыл бұрын

    What if the towers randomly shot themselves in the head because who would want to spend eternity fighting zombies.

  • @zombiecat264

    @zombiecat264

    Жыл бұрын

    🗿

  • @Vross_MKII

    @Vross_MKII

    Жыл бұрын

    do not cook again my brotha

  • @ColonThreehehe

    @ColonThreehehe

    Жыл бұрын

    Suicide promotion real

  • @skyrimenjoyer

    @skyrimenjoyer

    Жыл бұрын

    Who let this man cook?

  • @Latticino-nu1yp

    @Latticino-nu1yp

    Жыл бұрын

    i mean they must get a paycheck or smth

  • @lpmatthews7387
    @lpmatthews7387 Жыл бұрын

    The mortar worked in all 3 updates, with imo the strongest in the first rework. If you make a loadout around having high crowd control (ie: ranger or rocketeer), it can work really well.

  • @0skillgamer

    @0skillgamer

    9 ай бұрын

    How does ranger have high crowd control? Isn’t ranger’s gimmick supposed to be single target damage?

  • @lpmatthews7387

    @lpmatthews7387

    9 ай бұрын

    @@0skillgamer I meant like towers that work better when you already have high crowd control because I don't see rocketeer as a good splash tower. It's more of a middle between ranger and sniper, with a bit of aoe as a treat.

  • @slug8953
    @slug8953 Жыл бұрын

    I think mortar falls into the kind of tower you use "for fun" Like why would you use g crook boss if other golden towers are better? Because golden crook boss is fun to use. Mortar is fun because you see it shred armies of breakers. Mortar is not the kind of towers you bring solo,the best way to use them is just go into a random match,people will already have things such as accels and engis to really defend,while you can just have fun with your mortar.

  • @biz117

    @biz117

    Жыл бұрын

    i think gcrook kinda needs a buff ngl

  • @makramelcrack2657

    @makramelcrack2657

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@biz117 i agree

  • @glorpie

    @glorpie

    Жыл бұрын

    exactly lol

  • @codem5285

    @codem5285

    Жыл бұрын

    The players having u caught with having regular towers or bad they ill instantly leave and i can agree with them

  • @DankTDS

    @DankTDS

    Жыл бұрын

    but mortar is actually good

  • @user-gu7jq4oe5k
    @user-gu7jq4oe5k Жыл бұрын

    Maybe the devs could add like a nuclear effect at level 4+ and slows enemies down and make them take extra damage like super brittle from btd6, that way it could be used as crowd control and a way to support your heavy dps towers?

  • @lukeeichel3820

    @lukeeichel3820

    Жыл бұрын

    Oooh good point like radiation poisoning.

  • @needgoogleaccount461

    @needgoogleaccount461

    Жыл бұрын

    I think that buff would suit something like freezer better ngl

  • @agentbanana0766

    @agentbanana0766

    Жыл бұрын

    Free toxic gunner

  • @Theking0fgg
    @Theking0fgg Жыл бұрын

    If they rebalance it every update, people must check out the new rebalance every update. Mortar is now the most used tower, crisis averted

  • @ForestedKingdom

    @ForestedKingdom

    Жыл бұрын

    Absolute genius

  • @Fibero-Fibero69_420

    @Fibero-Fibero69_420

    Жыл бұрын

    *But chyu didn't have to cut me off*

  • @Rasyidi7

    @Rasyidi7

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Fibero-Fibero69_420 *chyu*

  • @theultimatepenguin4860
    @theultimatepenguin4860 Жыл бұрын

    Gold crook boss has been nerfed 16 times in the span of frost invasion to this update so mortar is nothing compared to it. Edit: didnt think this would get more than 10 likes so i am gonna list all 16 nerfs and the few buffs. Crook boss recently got changed so a few nerfs coming right up! 1. Gold crook boss limit decreased from 6-4 2. Gold crook boss can only spawn 1 unit 3. Gold crook boss spawn delay for 2 seconds due to military bug 4. Gold crook boss units changed from gold crooks and mafias to gold body guards (trash) 5. Gold crook boss price increased on level 1 (300 to 400) 6. Gold crook boss price increased on level 2 (800 to 1000) 7. Gold crook boss price increased on level 3 (1500 to 2000) 8. Gold crook boss minions can no longer be buffed by dj (bruh) 9. Gold body guards are still effected by ROF bug 10. Gold crook boss guards lost their spawn delay but another bug came in which made the spawn timer run even when gold crook boss spawned its max units 11. Gold crook boss spawn timer resets every time you upgrade it 12. Gold crook boss units animations broken causing to to stop and then shoot instead of just shooting 13. Gold crook boss units speed reduced 1 day after the gold body guards were added 14. Gold crook boss limited changed back to 4 15. Gold crook boss minions limit reduced from infinite to 6 16. Due to new ui changed the timer runs after the max unit limit is spawned instead of staying at 0 (same as violent night spawn ui) 17. Crook boss can spawn 1 unit (levels 1-2) 18. Crook boss can spawn 2 units on level 3 19. Max crook boss dps decreased on max 72-62 20. Crook boss can only spawn 3 units on max level 1. BUFF gold crook boss spawns can now spawn infinitely (changed 1 week later) 2. BUFF gold crook boss can now spawn 6 units instead of 3 3. BUFF gold crook boss units can be buffed by dj (changed 9 months later) 4. BUFF Crook boss costs 450 to place (not gold) 5. Dps increased on all levels. (Not gold) 6. Body guards spawn much faster and cost decreased on max. 9000-8100

  • @ForestedKingdom

    @ForestedKingdom

    Жыл бұрын

    Damn 😹💀

  • @Dreamer_TSC_Eradicator

    @Dreamer_TSC_Eradicator

    Жыл бұрын

    ye and the mortar is stronger than his minigunners even if theyre golden bc at max level they can anihilate the enemies whit ease.

  • @cool_deadguy

    @cool_deadguy

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@Dreamer_TSC_Eradicator agree

  • @Wyattboy364

    @Wyattboy364

    Жыл бұрын

    Really?

  • @Liezaac

    @Liezaac

    Жыл бұрын

    and its still good noob haha

  • @Arraavhavaana
    @Arraavhavaana Жыл бұрын

    I’m in love with ur vids keep up tha good work I just subbed today

  • @awsomesaharsh9906
    @awsomesaharsh9906 Жыл бұрын

    another point is that ace pilot (an easier to get tower) could replace mortar as it has crowd control and can do single target damage so if you want a mortar to use in a slot you could use an ace

  • @syn5570
    @syn5570 Жыл бұрын

    A good way to make explosion/aoe based towers have an actual purpose is that there's enemies that has multiple phases yet has low hp, if your single targets are too preoqupied with the enemies with multi-phases, its gonna make the aoes have a much better purpose.

  • @MaxLai_0104

    @MaxLai_0104

    9 ай бұрын

    breakers and mysteries?

  • @Toni.badiIm

    @Toni.badiIm

    8 ай бұрын

    ​@@MaxLai_0104abominations

  • @SkalikeschAos
    @SkalikeschAos Жыл бұрын

    A really good example would be the badlands 2 breaker spam where the breaker4's are enough to overrun your accel spam

  • @stickman-1
    @stickman-1 Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the video. We've been missing you. ;-) Totally agree about the GCB vs Farm. Which in my opinion is an insult the players. Anyone can get farm. It's cheap and easy to get. But GCB requires at least $50K coin and you have to win Badlands. So it's really hard to get in comparison. My gripe is also extends to the Executioner. Another very hard to get tower with limited usefulness. I love it, but it seems weak considering how hard it is to get.

  • @fulmine1412
    @fulmine1412 Жыл бұрын

    Tds definitely needs to change the amount of enemies coming every wave, that way other towers will be able to do better than others, but I wouldn't just change that, I'd also add some new enemies to normal game modes like lead and flying enemies so that other towers who can damage them like mortar will find more time to be used

  • @paranomalfg7414
    @paranomalfg7414 Жыл бұрын

    why are you comparing a splash crowd control to a jack of all trades

  • @okgoose3305

    @okgoose3305

    Жыл бұрын

    elite is dumb

  • @weirdooftheyear

    @weirdooftheyear

    Жыл бұрын

    views

  • @minisasa134
    @minisasa134 Жыл бұрын

    hopefully we see this new concept in a big update such as solar eclipse 2. Also we can see that badlands 2 is a perfect example of what you said. Sure, there are a lot of breakers but usually the plan is get enough max accels and minis and you'll be fine

  • @J-J14
    @J-J14 Жыл бұрын

    thx for posting love the videos trying to get accelerator and cowboy

  • @wentworth8776
    @wentworth8776 Жыл бұрын

    In btd6 the paths intersect sometimes so if some easy maps had intersecting paths it could make the mortar more effective.

  • @TinyzYt
    @TinyzYt Жыл бұрын

    Yea I agree I think the should take more insperation from Bloons like adding lead or flying zombies do default gamemode s so your loadout can be more diverse in damage. They can even creat their own special properties.

  • @mrlight0818
    @mrlight0818 Жыл бұрын

    This is one of the worst takes of towers I have ever seen

  • @MinionKosovar
    @MinionKosovar Жыл бұрын

    Hey elite, can you do the first loadout ever beat fallen again becase the recent buffs?

  • @Will-fw9be
    @Will-fw9be11 ай бұрын

    IDEA mortar has a passive ability called “Shell shock” when enemies get hit they are stunned for 1 second and slowed for 10, good idea or not?

  • @levibutinroblox477
    @levibutinroblox477 Жыл бұрын

    nah all we need is new enemies that require air defense

  • @idk7677

    @idk7677

    Жыл бұрын

    Or bring the old sheild system back, where normal towers do 2 damage only and explosion towers ignore it

  • @goranmacura662

    @goranmacura662

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@idk7677 NO

  • @Latticino-nu1yp

    @Latticino-nu1yp

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@goranmacura662 actually he's right , it can be a pain in the axx but it allows you to bring more towers and experiment with those

  • @whatyoudobruh

    @whatyoudobruh

    Жыл бұрын

    Better have now and then(but then for start 15 second)

  • @robloxgameleaker

    @robloxgameleaker

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@idk7677 NO TEMPLAR PLS

  • @Official_ViperYT
    @Official_ViperYT6 ай бұрын

    I think they should add a horde targetting option for splash damage towers such as mortar, rocketeer, maxed commando, and paintballer that causes it to target clusters of enemys, that would probably help it do what it does quite better, and paintballer would be somewhat good for once with a buff like that

  • @DriftScooterLife
    @DriftScooterLife Жыл бұрын

    Mortar is really good in pizza party because of the amount of breakers, and hordes to the point that even accel can barley handle it without a few max commanders

  • @awesomeness3145
    @awesomeness3145 Жыл бұрын

    You make a really good point here in this video. I think maybe accelerator and engineer were rebalanced for a good reason and towers like rocketeer and mortar got buffed so the devs can encourage people to use other towers in their loadout.

  • @sandymatteson9811

    @sandymatteson9811

    Жыл бұрын

    There is really good point in this video then why did I find proof that this isn't good evidence like it all you want me to tell you okay it's way less expensive to use mortar then minigunners and he's example earlier mini gunners and the last upgrade he needed to get rid of the breakers was $9,000 more than what you would need for the mortar and the upgrades you need to defend against a bunch of breakers so where's the point and that's the last upgrade of the minigunner only which is more expensive than the mortars and price with how it would cost to get enough upgrades to defend against a bunch of breakers and she was using mini gunners and mortars against breakers and he had to get a $9,000 upgrade it to defend against AND ALSO JUST READ THE ENTIRE OKAY THEN YOU GET MY POINT DO IT!

  • @ruli6871

    @ruli6871

    8 ай бұрын

    Mortar still sucks for the time required

  • @MovingonForgettingthepast
    @MovingonForgettingthepast Жыл бұрын

    When I'm at a bad take competition and my opponent is elite:

  • @tigerstorm243
    @tigerstorm243 Жыл бұрын

    elite can you make a video where you do a spin the whell with all towers the 5 first towers you should try beat falllen with

  • @morsi.themuslimreposter
    @morsi.themuslimreposter8 ай бұрын

    Very nice explanation, accent and etc. Im really impressed because i dont have the level to do this explanation. Know I know if mortar is better

  • @brokenemp9968
    @brokenemp9968 Жыл бұрын

    -makes vid about mortar -barely uses mortar in the vid -only uses mortar at the times its not worth using instead of looking at when it is worth (pzp and bl2 both have strong hordes that mortar clears effectively) -does this showcase in molten mode (anything would be enough to defend hordes in molten even sniper is strong enough) -also didn't even mention how godly 3/21 mortar was because 40 splash size anyways I agree with the point you're making tds is way too focused on single target

  • @hyurinnagata1616

    @hyurinnagata1616

    Жыл бұрын

    Also, using a different game as an example

  • @slug8953

    @slug8953

    Жыл бұрын

    Mortar is actually decent as single target... 4 MORTARS WITH SUPPORT CAN KILL A FREAKING MOLTEN BOSS

  • @jgsgamergfdgfdgfd1137

    @jgsgamergfdgfdgfd1137

    8 ай бұрын

    @@slug8953 yeah that’s true I tested it because I was bored as hell

  • @Fartskee
    @Fartskee Жыл бұрын

    The only way the devs can save explosive towers is to revamp the wave structure or add more enemies.

  • @reconsider3735
    @reconsider3735 Жыл бұрын

    Adding on to this, what is the hardest challenge in every major mode? The final boss, a high health, singular enemy that has a lot if attacks that punish killing them slowly. The game needs more difficulty spikes land in general needs to be more difficult. The only mode that the final boss isn't a massive difficulty spike on is probably pizza party, and second fallen. When you know the hardest bit of the mode is a high health singular enemy, this greatly discourages the use of the mortar as it won't help out at THE HARDEST PART OF THE MODE. I think the difficulty of most of the bosses is fine, jt is just the mode leading up to the boss that needs buffing.

  • @ausroks9138
    @ausroks9138 Жыл бұрын

    This chunk of text is about my spitball on how different enemies could be implemented to encourage the use of towers like the mortar and rockater. What about a concept on horde enemies, that negates a set amount of damage, not a percentage, like changing the purple breakers shield from 35% to 6-10 damage, meaning that individual damage like the mini gunner, whose damage only really caps at 4, negates damage done to the enemies. Then the breakers from the original purple breakers could have an effect where they negate 4-6, then 2-4 and 1-2, This would encourage higher damage, slower fireate playthrough, which is ideal for the mortar and rocketer tower, and even the Demoman at a high level, and the idea of breakers would encourage higher damage, slower fireate, and splash damage, as individual damage in large bursts best highlighted by rangers, would fail to counter the multiplication of breakers after they die. It's like the crystal enemy's from tower blitz, to integrate this idea into Normal, Molten and Fallen would drastically change the meta, because this would completely negate mini gunner as an all-round tower, which is prized for its versatility, and is arguably the sole reason why it's so popular with mid-level players before they can obtain accelerator. To introduce a less radical concept that would be better suited towards a general balance of individual DPS towers, breakers could have the ability to only be damaged by certain attacks, such as the lead zombies from hardcore mode, whereas they can only be damaged by fire, explosions and attacks, but negate bullets. This idea would not be effective in balancing towers like engineer, or accelerator, but would give more utility to players around the lvl 75 range. A change that could be made to fix this issue would be to raise the amount of damage the breakers can take without taking damage, but this would ultimately lead to an overpowered enemy, therefore the same concept could be applied to zombies with very low base HP health. e.g a medium-moving, small tower with low levels of HP, but can only be damaged by a certain amount of damage that is over a set amount, imagine a tankeir zombie, a normal green one from Molten mode, with a HP of 10, that has a 15 damage block, meaning that only towers that do 15 damage per individual hit can damage the tower. (complete hypothetical). or maybe after that amount of damage is enforced on the zombie, (15 damage) the level drops down 1, of course appling until the damage block is lower than the damage being delt per individual hit, meaning the hypothetical health would span out for individual target towers making then deal with more health, while towers such as the mortar or rocketer would have less hypothetical health to damage.

  • @josardoleon6894

    @josardoleon6894

    Жыл бұрын

    The game doesn't need such big changes, only increased and decreased dmg against enemies with defense, in a way that mini can only do 1 dmg to breakers defense, and increased dmg against defense on some towers like ranger, splash dmg towers don't really need extra dmg against defense since they alr ignore it.

  • @ausroks9138

    @ausroks9138

    Жыл бұрын

    @@josardoleon6894 Nice

  • @melvin46962
    @melvin46962 Жыл бұрын

    can you upload more because you are my fav youtuber but good video because i do over defend

  • @bobertbwild1350
    @bobertbwild1350 Жыл бұрын

    This video is a hot take man. Mortar is just fine as it is, no tower needs buffed anymore (maybe except for crook boss), the zombies just need to be harder. The thing is, the player base if made of kids, kids arnt that smart, and would say the game is too hard and quit. Adding strategy would be nice none the less but calling mortar useless is… hurtful… it’s not useless it’s just there’s other ways you could do it. Maybe if they add a new game mode idk, it is what it is. And this video sounds like it’s VERY WELL trying to dis mortar but mortar is really good and I know it’s just the harsh reality. But, it does exceptionally well on things that single target things struggle with but can pass. That’s enough for me

  • @omegastamps313

    @omegastamps313

    Жыл бұрын

    I agree, crook boss is basically the "worst" Golden tower in the game and needs a large rebalance. I do also agree that we need more game modes and such to make the game harder, now that almost all towers are usable

  • @FatLoser445

    @FatLoser445

    Жыл бұрын

    This bro just likes to complain cuz he wants to be Gordon Ramsay so badly

  • @omegastamps313

    @omegastamps313

    Жыл бұрын

    @@FatLoser445 there's some truth in your statement as well

  • @Guyglowbe
    @Guyglowbe Жыл бұрын

    Yeah good video elite, best tear on my list, S keep it up man.

  • @johanndesouza
    @johanndesouza Жыл бұрын

    wait elite are u gonna make tds meme tower got buffed?

  • @tdsgamer1235
    @tdsgamer1235 Жыл бұрын

    upload more love your vids maybe make vids on btd6 or other tds games when tds is dying

  • @DumbStuffDoer
    @DumbStuffDoer8 ай бұрын

    The thing is, you bring some towers for some reasons. You don't bring Mini to take out groups, and you don't bring Mortar or Demoman to take out single targets.

  • @Fibero-Fibero69_420
    @Fibero-Fibero69_420 Жыл бұрын

    Being an "unnecesary overdefender" could also somewhat be of use in Hardcore, where you'll need the strongest towers you could muster which Mortar will apparently fare well with. also.. why is every single comment (even mine after heavy simplification from editing) such a paragraph.

  • @frenczxzen8030

    @frenczxzen8030

    Жыл бұрын

    Not really you don’t need too many strong towers especially for certain strats like trio miners used pretty simple towers

  • @Fibero-Fibero69_420

    @Fibero-Fibero69_420

    Жыл бұрын

    @@frenczxzen8030 Well any form of variation and mixups is good for every game in existance

  • @NotNuggety
    @NotNuggety Жыл бұрын

    An idea for mortar might be like an ability where they just summon a bunch of bombs at the enemies, making it a decent late game tower, but that’s just an idea

  • @theofficial8858
    @theofficial8858 Жыл бұрын

    Anyone remember when ranger was considered a boss killer before it’s buff when it did 250 dmg, now mortar does that but with explosions…and ranger was still heavily used.

  • @DemolitionIdiot

    @DemolitionIdiot

    Жыл бұрын

    ranger never did 250 dmg it dealt 300 dmg

  • @randomletters8095

    @randomletters8095

    Жыл бұрын

    @@DemolitionIdiot u know there’s something called the outlaw before a certain update?

  • @po3794

    @po3794

    Жыл бұрын

    Because of hp inflation, outlaw doing the 250 damage is high because enemies do not have nearly as much as as they do now

  • @goldenzed6455

    @goldenzed6455

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@po3794 "hp inflation" Thats actually a really good concept to use when discussing DPS.

  • @ffcdgf

    @ffcdgf

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@goldenzed6455 when tds kid cried because they cant have dps and enemy health go zimbabwe economy number is good way to explain it

  • @Lyxfinity
    @Lyxfinity7 ай бұрын

    one thing they should do with the mortar is give it the ability to fire a gun so whenever he is reloading he has a pistol in the other hand with 1.5 firerate and 10 damage it would be so much more valued and maybe raise the spawn limit up to 5

  • @SyberTheDragon738
    @SyberTheDragon738 Жыл бұрын

    Mortar seems to be hated now, welp i gotta stick with mah sledger then, btw still love ur videos

  • @Pot...
    @Pot... Жыл бұрын

    Cool fact abt tds: when ypu level up the dj in level 3 or where you get the discount, or when you place it... it will have a uniqe range color, its purple and in the end of the circle, it has a like beats that will appear

  • @dawg442
    @dawg442 Жыл бұрын

    i think tds should try to be kind of like tower blitz with defence, metal and other stuff like that and with a lot of wave variety with towers that will specialize in those things

  • @sussus1146
    @sussus114611 ай бұрын

    This is just so True. Tds has like no moments at all where splash damage really shines

  • @im___fann5063
    @im___fann5063 Жыл бұрын

    the way how to fix mortar is to add lead enemies to every mode except normal and probably lead flying enemies to make sure accels and turrets wont be able to do that

  • @IAARPOTI
    @IAARPOTI Жыл бұрын

    I think the reason why is that the devs are not game level designers. i can see the pattern like crowd zombies have low hp in each zombie and still mini gunner can beat it. If they want to make every turret useful, they have to make enemies more tricky to kill with single attacker like mini gunner which I doubt they would do. Consider they use cookie cutter for event. The devs trying to be not lazy ( impossible )

  • @whatyoudobruh

    @whatyoudobruh

    Жыл бұрын

    My opinion better can be add moddifer(etc.blitz,pgtd) or special map(only lead,only camo,only cliff) give more money (molten normal 500 coin in special 750 coin)

  • @KenshinPlayz57
    @KenshinPlayz57 Жыл бұрын

    I love to use mortar in matchmaking, its fun to use and actually somewhat strong now

  • @goranmacura662
    @goranmacura662 Жыл бұрын

    Elite you need to check out turret its stats really good and yea it alone is enough to solo molten and you just need a early der tower(shutgunner) and yea you will just experience it so yea

  • @mattcalebkonghadjirul6235
    @mattcalebkonghadjirul6235 Жыл бұрын

    And then people would complain that they should nerf breakers because its to hard. But this would make the towers like rocketeer useful and would make the engineer wayyy above accels terms of usefulness so it would be a pretty good balance and basically rework a lot of towers simply by adding more of those purple breakers in every mode

  • @hatguy123_
    @hatguy123_6 ай бұрын

    just make the mortal shoot several projectiles instead of one on the late levels so this makes it kinda good at early game (no, but i mean... hordes..?), but it also makes it n alright defense in a late game where u have much longer lines of enemies and more hordes overall

  • @smugundan2827
    @smugundan2827 Жыл бұрын

    well mortar is still cheaper and does more damage then most towers other then ranger at max lv but it also has clusters which altho arn,t very accurate still do a decent amount of damage

  • @tonyruotsalainen2496
    @tonyruotsalainen2496 Жыл бұрын

    Mortar is cliff tower which is perfect against the hardcore mode that you're gonna face and you cant have mortar before getting 75lvls meaning mortar is NOT a useless tower

  • @TordBot69
    @TordBot699 ай бұрын

    yea but its really fun seeing like 12 cluster bombs flying everywhere when they all attack at once

  • @I_animated_it
    @I_animated_it Жыл бұрын

    Elite: Mortars are kinda bad. That one guy: So today I beat Fallen with only mortars.

  • @Random_YouTuber434
    @Random_YouTuber4345 ай бұрын

    for the new event is kind of what he is talking about how the mortar need more of a reason to be used not just to be used for fun where it is needed due to the amount of enemy's there are during the later waves of the event that makes for the need for the mortar which is why most strats use the mortar it is essential to the plan if you want to win it helps against the crying angel and sleigh enemy's but most importantly the hordes that keep coming especially when Krampus the boss for the tds 2023 winter event summons and most of your dps towers like accel who lock on one enemy and stay on it till they die can shoot their missiles towards them and if they are at level 4 or maxed they drop extra bombs that do area damage not just single target which is why they are so helpful during the event but then again this event is only temporary not permanent so it's not the solution but a temporary fix.

  • @chongheezhumoe
    @chongheezhumoe Жыл бұрын

    I think u need to play spirit defenders it’s a rly good game that introduces a lot of aspects😊

  • @BicirikBey
    @BicirikBey Жыл бұрын

    10:34 They can add a pistol. When there are no enemies close to each other it could start using the pistol.

  • @nvs0k100
    @nvs0k100 Жыл бұрын

    about the enemies part: true, but there are still a few problems with it: -pursuit would literally be meta -harder for people belo lvl 75. its molten, after all

  • @Thumpstrer

    @Thumpstrer

    Жыл бұрын

    i see you in every tds video

  • @spectrite4533
    @spectrite45337 ай бұрын

    The problem is that top towers attack so fast that there isnt no point for crowd control unless spawn 200enemies with 1hp and that doesnt happend

  • @Really-sillyperson
    @Really-sillyperson Жыл бұрын

    i love it when elite posts because its probably the only video thats entertaining to watch

  • @zappyhype
    @zappyhype Жыл бұрын

    I think they should just make an update base on rebalancing the waves. Cuz rn is just mainly spamming slow bosses or fallens / moltens. I hope that they make more varieties to make the game actually challenging.

  • @ilaptop3351

    @ilaptop3351

    Жыл бұрын

    Infinite waves

  • @2fps_man
    @2fps_man Жыл бұрын

    Actually, there already is (sort of) a round 63 competitor for tds When void reaver slams like 40 towers at once with his sword he can spawn like 40 souls all in one clump which like 20 max minigunners would definitely struggle but can easily be dealt with 2 max rocketeers I think another suggestion I could think of is increase the amount of towers u can equip in game so like let's say u can have 6 tower slots by like lvl 50 and 7 by idk lvl 150? This also makes more players wanna grind the game more which brings more players to the game.

  • @heyoudodobird

    @heyoudodobird

    Жыл бұрын

    Having more tower slots would be nice but I doubt it would necessarily bring more players

  • @whatyoudobruh

    @whatyoudobruh

    Жыл бұрын

    I think only 6place for tower for 100 level

  • @2fps_man

    @2fps_man

    Жыл бұрын

    @@heyoudodobird well yeah it does make the game easier which does make players leave the game a bit earlier it still makes new players wanna grind more though, just makes the more mid-pro players quit the game earlier, and since 90% of tds players are below lvl 15 I still think tds player base will increase just very small like 5%

  • @saksefon681

    @saksefon681

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@2fps_man still

  • @Dumm_ye

    @Dumm_ye

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@2fps_manthey should handle it like ctd, the 6th slot costs like 10k coins, although if tds does it 6th slot for 10k is gonna be too cheap and op, maybe 50k would be better?

  • @awbotawbot
    @awbotawbot Жыл бұрын

    But for the mortar u could use the Engeer cause at max level has the same thing explosion

  • @cosmic7140
    @cosmic7140 Жыл бұрын

    Good point. But I like to use the mortar because of the high damage at max level.

  • @DanielGFX2
    @DanielGFX2 Жыл бұрын

    while i do agree with you for the most part elite making the mortar useful would make the game significantly harder in solo as like you state it takes up a tower slot so for instance if the mortar's only use was to beat a few rounds but was 100% needed to win then you would practically only have 4 tower slots (3 if you brought farm). Btd6 doesnt have this issue as im sure your aware of you have infinite tower slots and placement limits excluding t5s and paragons. So while your btd6 analogy isnt totally accurate you do bring up good points overall.

  • @peanuts9258
    @peanuts9258 Жыл бұрын

    In bt6 the middle mad path for dart gunner is good for damage but bad for clusters but it’s still a bomb shooting tower maybe mortar in tds can do something similar with mortar

  • @gamingrealm794
    @gamingrealm794 Жыл бұрын

    i swear the new gui is insane especialy that you can make it insanly big so i can flick my mouse to the upgrade but thats the only good thing

  • @pls_unique
    @pls_unique Жыл бұрын

    maybe they could add a secondary fire for single target? or maybe an ability of 1 very powerful shot?

  • @ahmeteminyaldz5854
    @ahmeteminyaldz585411 ай бұрын

    if you combine mortar and minigunner it helps you to grind fast in 16 minutes you can get 500 its too good

  • @Aseir366
    @Aseir366 Жыл бұрын

    If devs decide to add Flight enemies to beta map, it would be more somewhat interesting?

  • @KodiakBearThatComments
    @KodiakBearThatComments6 ай бұрын

    I just think they could've just increased the base cost to, say, 600, increase some upgrade prices (except max level) give some more radius and maybe 2 cluster bombs 1 cluster bomb at level 3 and 2 at 5

  • @Mr_Cool256
    @Mr_Cool256 Жыл бұрын

    I swear no youtubers are covering the fact that the settings has updated.

  • @RenderTag.
    @RenderTag. Жыл бұрын

    for future events this tower will do very well.

  • @im_not_jacob

    @im_not_jacob

    2 ай бұрын

    Yes, im from the future, and mortar is *required* for phase 2 and 3 in krampus revenge because there is enemy spam and flying enemies

  • @cloxzzy
    @cloxzzy Жыл бұрын

    nice video as always but does anyone know when the aster event is coming

  • @snicker_kicker6420
    @snicker_kicker6420 Жыл бұрын

    tbh world tower defense is fully a strategy game. but this one just depends on farming and spamming ur best tower

  • @playofsiomaiofficial
    @playofsiomaiofficial Жыл бұрын

    Ngl though the mortar rebalance with the cluster on max level was wild, we defeated the fallen king with mortars and a few ground towers

  • @bijoudan
    @bijoudan Жыл бұрын

    back with the good content!

  • @scientificmatthew1351
    @scientificmatthew1351 Жыл бұрын

    The devs should seriously rework all 3 gamemodes because it’s getting boring playing the exact same wave structure again. Or maybe they should add modifiers that you can equip or unequip for increased rewards and challenges.

  • @GamerDoggies
    @GamerDoggies5 ай бұрын

    My speedrunning instincts were hurting me while watching the video, and it makes it more sense bringing mortar to defend early waves to make the game go faster. Makes getting golden crate faster

  • @Residentdummy
    @Residentdummy Жыл бұрын

    I think not the enemies that need too be changed they should make challenging maps similar to winter 2020 where theres a 4 lane path Or intertwining paths like badlands where 3 lanes go through one choke point where splash dmg accels at and also make better rewards for beating hard maps and you have a reason too actually use splash dmg.

  • @whatyoudobruh

    @whatyoudobruh

    Жыл бұрын

    Rember map with dead golden golem?have 2 Path but who Play?

  • @beegredbirb
    @beegredbirb Жыл бұрын

    In my opinion minigunner is WAY to overpowered, level 1 is 2,500 for 10 dps, then level 3 is 8,600 for 40 dps, mortar would be ok if they nerfed single target like Minigunner

  • @kirillabraev3358
    @kirillabraev3358 Жыл бұрын

    Make vids for retro tds and pixel gun plz

  • @FReplica
    @FReplica Жыл бұрын

    Satire I see Elite-San

  • @tssstudios2574
    @tssstudios2574 Жыл бұрын

    Elite tds devs are working on chaos mode mortar will be really useful for that

  • @cyance
    @cyance Жыл бұрын

    completely off topic but im just wondering how you're 5th on ranked lb

  • @janoshii
    @janoshii Жыл бұрын

    Cant wait for the 4th revamp for the mortar.

  • @Pyromaniac-bt6jd
    @Pyromaniac-bt6jd Жыл бұрын

    bro really complaining about overdefending💀💀💀

  • @Pyromaniac-bt6jd

    @Pyromaniac-bt6jd

    Жыл бұрын

    also you’re comparing a low level mortar to a max mini, no shit it does worse

  • @shmup80
    @shmup806 ай бұрын

    I think to make the Mortar better is when is a single enemy in his range he use a pistol that does 1 damage after 2 seconds. In level max he does 5 damage in 0.5 seconds. For me i think will make better Mortar!

  • @TheUmbraN0tG4ming
    @TheUmbraN0tG4ming Жыл бұрын

    Mortar is really good. Especially for special gamemodes

  • @personapersona-ws5xh
    @personapersona-ws5xh Жыл бұрын

    When soloing molten, I find mortar really helps with slow boss spam

  • @OMGREALDUMMYFROMDVN
    @OMGREALDUMMYFROMDVN Жыл бұрын

    Fun fact: They glitched most of the skins, not just the tycoon farm and yes it's more of a correction than a "fun" fact. For an example, Frost Minigunner has almost invisible horns on lvl 0-3 Edit: Oh yeah also try winning the game with Scouts + supports (farm, dj, stun towers, commander)

  • @cavenbernardo973
    @cavenbernardo973 Жыл бұрын

    Mortar is only useful when there is a special gamemode like pizza party, badlands and polluted wastelands because these modes have crowds with enemies that have lots of hp or enemies that can fly mortar is not useless it’s actually very helpful but for normal mode like fallen its kinda useless because the enemies are not as strong so you don’t need mortar but mortar is fun to use but the placement limit needs to get buff to like 10 and get hidden detection.

  • @Buzzinga00

    @Buzzinga00

    6 ай бұрын

    D

  • @Kedilaa
    @Kedilaa10 ай бұрын

    i think mortar should be changed, a tower that first off start with a lowcost minigun, then gets a better minigun + the mortar, something like demoman + mingunner

  • @JustRandomUser_
    @JustRandomUser_ Жыл бұрын

    I love that my favorite tower, turret got rebalance

  • @HoaTic
    @HoaTic Жыл бұрын

    This is an example of people who don’t want to have fun trying every variety possible

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