Not shown here, but the recent update added a bloon speed modifier for tracks that can go as slow as 50% speed... so expect future tests to go even further than we're already seeing lol. Check out more max buffed (and perfect map) tower showcases in this playlist here: kzread.info/head/PLcT6C3pFUi81VRUDOiFrJt8S5rLuVm_1z

@MyNameIsReaper

2 ай бұрын

Thanks, I didn’t want to sleep tonight anyway.

@zizikim3174

2 ай бұрын

thank you isab for preparing the perfect map for the perma-spike

@That0nekid12

2 ай бұрын

why tf does it say the video was posted 14 minutes ago but this comment was 46 minute ago

@Y_o_r_u

2 ай бұрын

​@@That0nekid12he wrote it before the video become public

@Mico-fx4dc

2 ай бұрын

Striker Jones?

if only perm spike was actually permanent

@Manic_Eraser

2 ай бұрын

They should change the name to barely almost permanent spike

@baldibackinsosislisi3169

2 ай бұрын

​@@Manic_EraserSpikes with 300 seconds life time

@Manic_Eraser

2 ай бұрын

@@baldibackinsosislisi3169 what

@whatiskz1557

2 ай бұрын

One problem is, when projectiles count goes high, the frame per second won't be so pretty.

@dwarian5252

2 ай бұрын

@@whatiskz1557 I don't think permaspike would get close to the amount needed to slow the game down. just a single carpet of spikes I think would have more projectiles than the current max of a permaspike.

What about Striker’s Level 9+ permanent +25% pierce? Is it better than Fusty’s damage buff on a 10 damage tower? 50 pierce to 62.5 pierce pile would be nuts

@catchthispilebunker21447

2 ай бұрын

Exactly what I was thinking when he said "Pat is the best hero" the calc just kinda says better

@BTDIsab

2 ай бұрын

forgor

@buhbuhsuh4696

2 ай бұрын

@@BTDIsabvalid

@Mikustan39

2 ай бұрын

⁠@@BTDIsabThat is the most ISAB response ever.

@lightninghelmet2798

2 ай бұрын

​@@BTDIsab😢😭

The only tower that can last longer than sauda

@ClubstepMonsterOfficial

2 ай бұрын

Is your mom.

@Trash_owo

2 ай бұрын

You're talking about Sauda's level 3 ability right 😀😀😀😀😀

@Techmoblad

2 ай бұрын

Even a 0-0-0 dart can last longer than me if i'm with sauda, and that's on god

@nguyentandung42

2 ай бұрын

@@Techmobladon which god

@JoeyMx

2 ай бұрын

@@TechmobladDefinitely a virgin. Don’t lie. 😂😊

Geraldo spikes are more permanent than Perma-spike 🗣️🗣️ spread the word and bring justice for perma-spike

@Sentiie

Ай бұрын

Power spikes!!!!!

kinda annoyed that the map doesn't look like the thumbnail but to be completely fair the actual best map for Perma-Spike looks ugly as hell so i understand the clickbait

@goddosyourself7970

2 ай бұрын

It looks fine you must be projecting

@blonkonups

2 ай бұрын

@@goddosyourself7970projecting bro are u brain dead

@Nyxie6666

2 ай бұрын

​@@goddosyourself7970dawg what, the perfect map looks really ugly

@goddosyourself7970

2 ай бұрын

@@Nyxie6666 you have no taste

@SomberSky

2 ай бұрын

​@@goddosyourself7970 Love it so much better put a ring on it

Thank you ISAB for perfectly edging the bloons with the perma-spike

@NotTryingToBe_tinymacdude

2 ай бұрын

man i love edging (joke)

ISAB never fails to ruin my sleep schedule

@FYZZUMP

2 ай бұрын

Fr I was literally about to go to sleep😂

@Y_o_r_u

2 ай бұрын

For me, isab never fail to give me something to watch when im about to eat my lunch

@the_dripgoku

2 ай бұрын

Nah bc why am I actually watching this at 2:14 am

@kevinlandry1908

2 ай бұрын

If you were already up past midnight, I think that's on you my guy 😭

@milchi5122

Ай бұрын

@@Y_o_r_u facts. im always pissed at days when he doesnt upload

This is the most P-Spike micro I've ever seen

Congrats on 700k!

@PoopyMcStinkertons

2 ай бұрын

Dang a donation yet basically no recognition. I'm here though! Hope this comment blows up!

@Slikeen

2 ай бұрын

Fr ​@@PoopyMcStinkertons

@yuanwang9324

Ай бұрын

This person is a channel member and donoing, ISAB you better reply

I feel like you could take this a little further by utilizing slows like absolute zero, super glue, and even bloon sabo's. This just lending more time for the piles to accumulate before DDT's and smaller MOABs hit, since this seems be what ends the run currently, rather than the much slower BADs, which the piles still have time to tank.

@turtley8581

2 ай бұрын

I believe the other max buff videos don't use slowdowns, so he didn't use them here

@jacksonpercy8044

2 ай бұрын

@@turtley8581 And I would argue that he should have been using at least MOAB glue from the very beginning.

@Barely_Edited

2 ай бұрын

@@jacksonpercy8044I would argue he should stay consistent with the other tests, only seems fair

@jacksonpercy8044

2 ай бұрын

@@Barely_Edited The first few of these ISAB did had a maximum of 32 nodes, so it's unfair that he's using 48 for the ones after it. And in his pinned comment he says he'll be making use of the new 50% speed modifier in the future, making them even more unfair. All that aside you missed my point; I think he should have been using moab glue from the very first test, meaning it would always be fair game.

@oilflanker

2 ай бұрын

iirc absolute zero doesn't work since permaspike can't pop frozen bloons

Permaspike optimisations on maps sounds more comprehensive than I thought

CONGRATS for 700k sub ISAB. I've been watching you since KOTH from battles flash and it has been amazing for every video i watch. Thank you ISAB

I can’t believe isab is able to last four rounds or 300 seconds

@Max-zo6rv

2 ай бұрын

Broooooo 💀

Congrats on 700K!

Im curious what effect (if any) adding a moab glue would have, yes it would not do anyhting to the BADs but it may make the DDTs slow enough to add a few rounds.

i really like the tailored map chimp runs! please keep doing them! love the content!

I can't wait for the Supermines best map test. I'd imagine it to be at its best if there is just room for a singular spike factory in a circle in the middle of the map.

i think mortar would be a little interesting. since range is global, you could get minimal pops on other towers. i would also assume striker jones to be the best hero because of his military buff and his target focus and artillery command abilities.

Congratulations on 700,000, ISAB!! This’ll leave a permanent mark on the channel.

HAPPY 700k SUBS!!

ISAB there is a mod in btd6 that made a god village that gives every buff like ultra boost, MIB, god temple, and all the others you should use this so you can get a accurate pop count for the T5 tower of choice

Mr. SAB you gotta be kididng me bro

Cool video showcasing Pat Fusty's Level 10 ability

Thank you ISAB for displaying for us the strength of your S. Perma

Yesssssss. Loving this series.

You should do tests like this where only BAD damage matters, and you have towers than can clean up insides without doing too much damage. (bloon crush, glue, ect) because in late game that is ususally what counts more than ddts or zomg

My cat loves watching your videos with me, we watch them all every day. Thank you

Striker jones could have been a better hero since he now gives +25% permanent pierce to all towers in range. For spfac that’s basically +25% damage

Congrats on 700k subs dude

I love falling asleep just to be woken up by the isab notification at eleven p m. Then of course I have to watch the video. Love the stuff, Keep up the amazing work.

Congrats on 700k ISAB 🥰

The king has posted!

I’d love to see some paragons. Specifically engi paragon interests me, because you need to think about the sentries.

If i remember correctly, striker jones has a level that grants 25%pierce to all towers in range.

Congrats on 700k subscribers

I love it when Isab

Would you say making the closer loops added 13 cycles in shoots your damage in the foot a bit? We saw at the beginning that the spikes expired before a bad got to the closer loop and given the perma spikes shooting a ton more spikes at the beginning of the round you get a more dense clump of spikes at the opening of the round that’ll expire before they’re used up.

Another fun test! Next time you do one of these, I vote you do top path engineer!

one of these challenges should feature the fan club with unstable concoction itd be fun to see the chains

Thank isab, how testing how far all the towers can go on your really long maps.

I’m curious what a map for the antibloon would look like. Does having 2 different targeting options change the potential strategies or is it the same big oval?

congrats on 700k!

650 hours and had no idea pat could be placed on water, thanks!, learn something new every day.

@stinker6784

Ай бұрын

how

@3000shifty

Ай бұрын

@@stinker6784 I've used Pat maybe once, ever.

@stinker6784

Ай бұрын

@@3000shifty lol fair

happy 700.000 subscribers

Was surprised you didn't go for a 220 druid for the regrows

Wouldnt it be the same as having a normal longest map with the permaspike hitting the bads on every loop? The spikes do the same damage, doesnt matter if they do it all at once every 7 loops or 7 times, once every loop. As long as there are no spikes left when a bloon leaks, then no damage was wasted. Here you have both a slightly shorter map, and some chances for the permaspikes to despawn.

I’m not sure if this would’ve helped, but a sabotage or absolute zero seemed like it would do a lot btw 700k subs congrats

If the spread was random, the DDTs wouldn't get through because they would hit spikes no matter what. That said, they would hit fewer spikes at once, so they could slip by if the spike pile wasn't strong enough overall.

super mines would be a good one to try next i think

I feel like a moab glue would be nice to help buy time with DDTs.

As we go on, and as you often showcase, we need to get some free ability bots or at least something that can do that legitimately in game

I would've expected Striker Jones to be the best with spac after the buff

I think striker Jones might be better as a hero, because of the recent change of giving Pierce to everyone in range.

@LeeTheSecond

2 ай бұрын

Jones BBQ and foot massage

Wouldnt it be more effective making it the longest map still with no diverging path? beacuse it would always use up the spike pile but still allow maximum time for production. And it would also be alot faster than bloons needing to go through alot of lopps before a single damage is made.

congrats on 7 subs

11:26 the most satisfying moab oval

You'd technically lose the pop count on perma, but you could use that smart spikes glitch to permanently boost its attack speed. The glitch is when you place a smart spikes spactory and in the middle of its attack speed buff at the start of the round you sell it and buy a different tower. Then that new tower inherites the attack speed til another tower is placed I don't think they fixed it

@spok_real

2 ай бұрын

I thought they fixed that a while ago, plus it's chimpe

@sir.cornyneck3960

2 ай бұрын

Ah right. Forgot it was chimps lol. I thought they kept the bug in, but maybe I missed some patch notes

Would striker be better? I know he gives +20% pierce

only ISAB could make a challenge that requires spike factory micro

You need to redo the crossbow master with 48 nodes, will definately last longer.

did maybe the moab glue / relentless help to slow ddt because due to its high speed it will slow it, and this could help to make more dps

Would be cool if there is a mod, which makes that super monkeys cant attack. So you could boost them, without they stealing pops

3 sabos for perma uptime? 0-2-5 glue? basically all the slowdowns in the game to easily fix the DDT speed issue, plus the pierce+range+projectile spd of the p.mentoring plus the atk spd+pierce of the homeland would ensure that the glue would hit pretty much everything...

Stricker Johns? Spike factorys love peirce dont they?

I'm surprised no ones made a mod for you that let's you select what buffs you want to give to a tower without placing other towers

You could also use 030 druid to stop regrow farm.

basically the invert of blons

Not only did he forgor Striker, he didn't even try relentless to slow and stun the DDT chains 😭😭

Would Druid Lightning (220) also not be a good deregrow instead of multiple engi? Might not contribute much to the temple sack, but it's not hugely costly either.

@jibranbasil

2 ай бұрын

130 better imo

@VapourWav3

2 ай бұрын

The issue was solved by getting sun avatar anyways, so, it would be more efficient to just not spam engi or use a druid and just get sun avatar quickly.

@jibranbasil

Ай бұрын

@@VapourWav3 sun avatar's expensive

i think blooncin would go super hard in this series

I’m just thinking and maybe I’m wrong wouldn’t the spike factory be fine on the outer ring? I mean it gets all of its spikes used and has no potential lost

Queue the apology video for not using Striker with P. Spike

i remember when perma could eat to moabs

Did you use the new speed option to make bloons only go at 25% speed

Wouldn't it be better to just make a huge map and have a permaspike just do damage instead of waiting for them to pile up

I'm not sure but wouldn't have striker been an even better buff than pat? Just wondering because a percentual pierce increase seems a lot stronger than +3 damage.

Best map for super mine cus they end up exploding and damaging everything anyways

I didn't know one could make something like this... What about perfect spike storm map lol

I'd love to see how far the spyke factory 5x5x5 can go :)

for max buffing things now would u not have to get the sub paragon?

ISAB reached 700k!🥳

Would a 023 or 024 glue have potentially slowed down the DDTs? Maybe giving the P-spike more time to add spikes, but more importantly potentially slowing them down enough to not skip the spike piles? (I-Impale also, but a) he couldn't have afforded that and b) that would have done a lot of damage)

@Idc08-xv7qv

2 ай бұрын

It would, though this challenge series have a rule of only using buffs ( temple, brew, oc/ub, cta/homeland, gizer and so on ) after all of those it's mostly just damage givers like sbrit and glorm. There's cripple which could help with the ddts while also counting as a damage giver so I'm not sure why he went with sbrit first considering BAD insides were his problems.

How well would a perma spike but with carpet of spikes ability do against chimps?

I wonder if a 220 druid would be better for stripping regrow

Won’t it work just as well if the tower can’t build up spikes and does damage along the way? The damage is still being done and every spike will get its damage in anyways, having perks in the back just prolongs it, right?

@corrymuth2997

2 ай бұрын

Regrows I guess

@adamseddon2533

2 ай бұрын

This way it doesn’t waste spikes on stuff that is gonna die anyway like to pat, while still building up a decent pile for things that make it to the exit, and also can still focus down the BADs.

@TheMrSword

2 ай бұрын

@@adamseddon2533 yeah, but isn’t the challenge to maximize the perma spike damage and lower the damage of other towers as much as possible? Also regrows don’t even come out and you could just use a bunch of grow blocker if necessary (it’s pretty cheap)

i miss when Pat Fusty oneshoted BADs

What about pirate lord on a crescent shaped map to hit Bloons on both sides?

sentry champ would be cool for this

I'm giving Bloons TD 6 a 0/10 for misleading all of us into thinking the Perma Spikes were actually permanent.

wouldn't it be better to have the long map but with 5 lanes and the stagger the bad's dip in so you wouldn't have all the FDDT hitting all at once?

Best map for Carpet of Spikes would probably be something about as short as the Blons map...

You should to sentry champion next

Wouldn’t have it been easier to just get the temple village

Nice, now make a perfect map for Kylie Boomerang

@cena3133

Ай бұрын

The ray of doom map

I want to see Carpet of Spikes' perfect map.

What is wrong with the spike being on the normal pathof the track? That way you would ensure no wasted spikes?

imagine before all the nerfs

Wouldn't striker been the best with the 25% pierce increase?

You should make a perfect glaive lord map