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Why SSG vs SSB is NOT Close. Which form is better overall, just imagine an equalized strength Goku, which form is more effective?
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@Txic_AAn
26 күн бұрын
im happy your doing other anime like dbz as I grew up on it amazing video
@AventSir
16 күн бұрын
@@Txic_AAn thanks king, I love DBZ too been literally waiting for the time to start making some content on it.
NGL Super Saiyan God looks more interesting than Super saiyan Blue at least design wise
@talonsandspears8129
25 күн бұрын
A very popular opinion my friend.
@nivnavion
25 күн бұрын
I think at least 3/4 of the fandom believes this.
@Shorts-wb4hq
25 күн бұрын
Thats basically saying I like the color red more than the color blue. It's basically a preference of which color you like more ATP💀
@nivnavion
25 күн бұрын
@@Shorts-wb4hqNo it isn't, SSJG has a multitude of differences to base, SSJ and SSJB. I can, of the top of my head, name 7, one for each dragon ball. 1. SSJG is the first canonical transformation to ever have a different aura colour to hair colour 2. SSJG is the first transformation in canon and non-canon to have a texture in the aura in the burning inferno it is 3. SSJG makes Goku look leaner 4. SSJG makes Goku look younger 5. SSJG is the first transformation to increase clothes and skin saturation rather than merely brightening it and yet remains the only one to do so. 6. SSJG is the first and still only transformation where the hair colour has a colour gradient: red-pink and arguably only if light is not a factor. 7. It's also the first transformation to keep the base form hair. SSJB has none of this and is just a lazy recolour of SSJ.
@Jayfym912
25 күн бұрын
Eh. I would’ve preferred if only Vegeta got blue and it was equal to God and they both mastered it but that’s just my opinion.
I really don't like that Red Super Saiyan is called Super Saiyan God instead of Saiyan God, as it's basically god ki+base form. I would wish Super Saiyan Blue to be called Super Saiyan God instead of the red one.
@link1565V2
25 күн бұрын
I've been thinking the same thing for a while. Problem is that SSB was not thought of when SSG came about. One of the downsides of Akira's more off the cuff writing style. Would have been great if Dragon Ball Super retconned the names. But it may have just made things confusing.
@nivnavion
25 күн бұрын
I don’t like this either, but it’s worth noting that SSJB isn’t actually SSJB, it’s just a shortened name made by Goku, Vegeta and Whis because it originally was a tongue twister. The actual name is of course SSJGSSJ or SSGSS, which makes sense as there’s two SSJs in it.
@link1565V2
25 күн бұрын
@@nivnavion Yes, we know. And while it makes sense. Having it be Saiyan God then Super Saiyan God still makes a lot more sense.
@dokkaner5934
25 күн бұрын
@@link1565V2 More like someone high up at toei shoehorned for blue/a new transformation to sell more toys. Ssb was a mistake & hopefully Toyo can fully drop the form out of the manga once it returns.
@link1565V2
25 күн бұрын
@@dokkaner5934 it wasn't a mistake, but it was introduced far too soon.
The healing abilities of SSG never appeared in the movie nor the manga, which means that it's just an anime exclusive thing
@fallenrealm49
25 күн бұрын
I'm pretty sure it shows up in Xenoverse 2 as well with ssg Goku having a slight passive heal
@nuclearwaste2062
25 күн бұрын
Its implied in the manga. Goku can use ki to heal himself. And he can survive deadly wounds long enough to eat a senzu bean.
@TheReZisTLust
23 күн бұрын
@@nuclearwaste2062Dende has been laughing at that bs "ability" since Frieza saga 😂
@TXPDO
23 күн бұрын
Nature Goku can heal things
@SlayingSin
5 күн бұрын
It didn't even stay in the ankme either. Goku never used SSG to heal in the anime ever again.
ssg is forgotten but it is a cool form that lasted very little until ssb came along
@JamesJackson-id9oi
25 күн бұрын
Wow good to know
@GiovanniSchedgick-dv1wf
25 күн бұрын
It’s not forgotten. It was used in the Moro arc as well as the survivor arc and the broly arc too
@BucketWasTakenTwice
8 күн бұрын
And in the Manga it's gotten a decent deal of usage
@tobyscustoms4813
Күн бұрын
It’s used in the tournament of power also
slight correction at 6:18, its not that gokus super saiyan god was stronger than vegetas blue, as stated by whis vegeta used it to much in one day and due to the energy drain of Blue vegeta wasnt able to use any more than 10 percent of its power, not because his blue is inheirently weaker than gokus god form, but just that his energy had been exhausted, but since goku hadnt used blue yet, his energy wasnt exhausted so god was more than enough to deal with hit, had vegeta not wanted to show off his strength and superiority of the blue form he could have also dealt with hit in god with relative ease, hope that clears things up
@breu5747
19 күн бұрын
He was not able to use 1/100 of his true power
@animefanatic787
19 күн бұрын
@breu5747 no, it was literally said by whis he can't even use 10% of his power, given the fact that we aren't told a number less than that the weakest we can put him at is 1/10th of his power, about 10 percent or slightly less
@The_chosen_one604
Күн бұрын
@@animefanatic787finally,i thought i was the only nerd about this...😅
@nahemahk
9 сағат бұрын
@@animefanatic787 So SSG is stronger than 10% SSB? which means SSB is 10x times multiplier for SSG at best, not 50x.
@animefanatic787
9 сағат бұрын
Yes gokus God was stronger than vegetas weakened blue, no the multiplier is less than 50x god, would the information conflict with itself, yes, bit those are the facts of the series, yes it seems contradictory but it is what it is
Video idea Why Krillin's hairline was way better than Goku's....
@saadsami8860
25 күн бұрын
Cap
@PhillipRubio578
24 күн бұрын
@@saadsami8860 Krillin's hairline is definitely better than Vegeta's hairline
@ronaldomontero3624
5 сағат бұрын
@@PhillipRubio578 what hairline
@FakerSilverYT
42 минут бұрын
@@PhillipRubio578I think you mean Vegeta's McDonald's sponsor
_Remember when Goku was fighting Jiren, when he transformed into super Saiyan God red form Jiren was able to block the hits with a finger, but when he became super Saiyan blue that’s when the fight truly engaged_
We early
@TheDawgSlayer
15 күн бұрын
CHUCK!!!!!!!
Yeah, 6:18 was a pretty big miss tbh. You even showed the panel where Whis explained why Goku was stronger than Vegeta in the Hit fight and still glossed over it, painting a narrative that Goku had better mastery over the form when that wasn't the reason for his better performance at all.
Can you make a video about certain types of outsmarting “builds?” Builds that focus on FSIQ, Thinking, Reasoning (Lawliet). Builds that focus on EQ, SQ, Manipulation, Deception (Light), or builds that are hybrid (Koji). The main reason people have takes from Koji low diffing Light to Light mid diffing Koji is because they don’t know how certain types of outsmarting builds interact; fix that.
@Worldoflight300
26 күн бұрын
This would be a goated vid ngl
@theguywithamissilelauncher
25 күн бұрын
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Great video!
I Love SSB , SSB was my SSJ 1 , it was my first Great Dragon Ball Transformation , SSB gived to me the Impact that SSJ 1 gave to Old Dragon Ball Fans , and it is make Sad that they did not made a Good Use of this Form ...
@toptier6132
2 күн бұрын
Goku 1st time going SS1 was so legendary...I still get goosebumps every time I watch it
@uglovasgaming
Күн бұрын
I don't know what you mean, shit was used in every arc
@ronaldomontero3624
5 сағат бұрын
@@uglovasgamingthey monologue instead keep fighting 90% of the story right?
New video in the late night.
Oh my fricking SSG😭
@paulgilbert3139
25 күн бұрын
Meh ssj4 gogeta >
@Bardorock.
25 күн бұрын
@@paulgilbert3139overrated monkey, but i respect your opinion.
@gregkareem9824
24 күн бұрын
@@paulgilbert3139no
@cheefcuts
24 күн бұрын
Lmfao 😂
@gregkareem9824
24 күн бұрын
@@cheefcuts stop cursing its a sin.
Awesome video ‼‼ what editing software do you use ?
Favourite anime good vid as well❤
did you make this video by yourself or do you have a team cuz you post super frequently just for one guy
I believe Broly's SsjFullPower is more that way because it is literally Ssj+ Ikari, and plus the fact that he was growing very quickly and didnt know how to control his powers made his body so big, almost a "in between" mode from base to Oozaru. Plus he is a mutant of his kind similar to freeza so his body works very differently
one mistake in ur analysis --> according to the manga, a tired ssb vegeta against hit < 10% ssb vegeta < 100% ssg goku < 100 % ssb goku and vegeta. Therefore, ss blue is AT MOST 10 times stronger than ss god, not 50. however, it's possible that perfect ssb is 50x greater than ssj god
It would've been cool if they made ssB weaker than ssG as the combination god and mortal ki with the mortal ki diluting the god ki makeing ssB weaker with them having to find a knew way to make ssG strong
THE EDITING 👏
Bro said stanima 😂 good video 10:04
SSB is 50X SSG
I think SSBE should’ve been the original design for SSB. A lot of people think it’s ugly but I think the aura is too much.
@Kyuubey0406
Күн бұрын
Ssbe would not look very good on Goku, and also its way too muscular to be the regular variant.
OOH some DB Power Scaling We Ready
SSGSS or Ssb this is not a debate yes red looks better and should have been the main form it’s crazy it’s 2024 and people have dumbass debates like this when is goku and Vegeta going to use weaker forms overtime just like the next villain is most likely stronger then the last
I see you agree with my SSG theory 😊
_The Potaro fusion is close to divine ki but not exactly divine ki, super Saiyan god is divine ki, which allows Goku to inflict damage on gods Or entities of divine nature. No matter how strong a natural being becomes, they cannot truly inflict damage on a divine being_
Please can you make a video about rimuru(LN) vs anos(LN).
@maalikserebryakov
25 күн бұрын
thats actually interesting I forgot most of anos powers. Rimuru likely spanks
Which is stronger? Base form or Mastered Ultra Instinct?
@AventSir
26 күн бұрын
Funny, but = stats, what is MORE effective. That's the question
@apersonwhoexists3383
26 күн бұрын
@AventSir Depends, Ssjg was far less draining, but when Goku and Vegeta perfected Ssjb, it became a lot better by far. But even with regular ssjb, I'd still say it's so much stronger where it might balance out the disadvantages with the ki drain. But the most effective way would just be to go blue on impact, but the rest of the battle maintain ssjg, just like they did in the Goku Black arc.
Wasnt he fighting that blue guy in the tournament of power and says "im not gonna hold back on you" and goes from ssg to ssjb?
Make a video on ranpo vs L
I think that say you have five saiyans, then ssg becomes a form that's really strong but without the extra boost its not as potent
The only thing that is debeatable about this is the speed of the forms, because vegeta and goku are still able to keep up with opponents that are blue level by obly using god, like against goku black. So its possible that differently from ssj that increases speed and strenght by 50x conoaree to base, ssjb only encreases strenght and not speed by 50x or if it does its not that relevant.
IMO they should have switched the colors. Make ss god blue, with a calm sky blue aura, and the next firm fiery red.
If the battle goes on for long, I'd say that God gives the advantage in a fight against an opponent of roughly the same strength due to it's passive recovery in terms of stamina, though if the forms are against each other, Blue wins easy
mihaw vid next?
How is this even a question? It's like asking if Base Goku or SSJ Goku is stronger since SSG is base form using god ki and SSGSS is stacking Super Saiyan on top of that.
The number goes even higher when goku in his "false" ssg form was confident he could fight beerus. The same goku who immediately denounced the idea of fusing even working altogether Ssg>"false" ssg>fp vegito
@sc-1918
25 күн бұрын
He wasnt confident at all, he was just excited because it open a new path to become stronger. He also didn't know how strong he was and what do you mean "false"
@Zeno1781
25 күн бұрын
@@sc-1918 He was confident he could fight beerus I mean "false" ssg because it was the empowered state goku got before he completed the form Vegeta even notes the ki as the greatest ki he ever felt, vegeta is 50% vegito
@Zeno1781
25 күн бұрын
@sc-1918 Goku immediately shuts down the idea of fusing even working He then gets this "false" ssg state and was ready to fight beerus had whis not mention him failing/ not attaining the ssg form
@sc-1918
25 күн бұрын
@@Zeno1781 "Vegeta even notes the ki as the greatest ki he ever felt, vegeta is 50% vegito" at the moment he couldnt sence god ki and like i said goku was excited to test his new power he further more confirm when he said "the a level i never expected to reach on my own" on his own.
@Zeno1781
25 күн бұрын
@sc-1918 the form that goku underwent from only 4 saiyans 💀
Wait Min who thinks this fight is close? pls tell who thinks this fight is fair bruh
I mean super saying God was stated to just be super Saiyan with God ki if I remember correctly either that or base form with God ki it's one of the two and super Saiyan blue is literally like the supers Saiyan two equivalent to God ki it's the next transformation up so it being stronger is a given
Like base vs SSJ?
It's two forms above ssg that it mutated into, ssb and ssbe
Can you do BB vs Mello Vs Near Or BB vs near/mello
I wish it was called saiyan god and not ssg and instead of the true name ssgss of ssb we could get ssg(super saiyan god) to the ssj form of the god form and the hair color is the same as ssg but the hair stands up
Guys..... What if.... Super saiyan God instinct?!
Super Warm vs Super Chillin
Video idea Ssj 3 vs ultra ego Which eyebrow loss looks worse
@chriss.249
25 күн бұрын
It's pretty evenly awful I say Ego. The lack of hair makes him look like a naked mole rat😂
@maalikserebryakov
25 күн бұрын
@@chriss.249must be like looking in the mirror for u then
@chriss.249
25 күн бұрын
@maalikserebryakov Imagine talking shit on someone u don't even know over roasting a fictional character😂 Idk what's more sad. That, or future gohans death U tryna roast when I bet u look like Dodoria behind that screen😂
Bro with equal stats they are just equal☠☠☠
Wasn’t this debate answered when Goku fought jiren in the tournament 🤷🏻
Vegeta stating Goku's power level of over 9,000 was not a translation error. It was a script choice for the English dub because it fit better with the mouth flaps in the animation easier in English than saying over 8,000 due to the style of animation Japanese anime implements.
If we talkin straight power output, it's Blue, since it's "technically" a Super Saiyan with the power of Super Saiyan God. If we talking overall more effective and better portrayal overall? God, hands down.
I mean ssg is kinda cool u can actually make it to your base form just like what u can do with ssj4
...i liked the video and all. very DETAILED 🤏 explaination but isnt this just...A form is stronger than the previous form like ss1
If goku and Vegeta stayed in their regular super sayain god forms would they be immortal?
I think SSB is better ngl, both forms look good but I think SSB has the better concept along with its details. SSB being SSJ combined with god ki and requiring a lot of control to use is pretty cool. Also it having a less intense aura and just being tranquil blue symbolizes the form's immense ki control.
I thought that SS3 made your power level 150 times stronger than your base not 400!?
My head canon is that Ssjg grade 1 and Ssjg grade 2+ aren't the same form.
There is two evolution to ssjg vegetas blue evolution my guy what a fire form to have from top
6:15 is straight up a lie. Vegeta wasn't able to control super saiyan blue at the time, and the second time, he used the form in the u6 tournament it was Said that he only had a tenth of his previous power in super saiyan blue. Hit was also WAY weaker in the manga
_Japanese anime lack of consistency, makes it so much less interesting._ _What they need to do is create a list of all of the features or special features of each form so that they know to put these features into those fights or remember to do so_
SSG looks pretty so it wins!!!! thats how powerscaling works right?
@Jayfym912
25 күн бұрын
Bet equal stats who wins?
@Kyuubey0406
Күн бұрын
Well ssb looks cooler so it wins.
*Base Vs SSJ who wins?* "☝🤡"
So in theory we can get Super Saiyan Blue 2 and 3
Running out of ideas
SS Red now is comparable to Super Saiyan 1 at this point
9:00 vegerot lol
Shocker
@AventSir
26 күн бұрын
if its equalized stats, people will still wonder what the conclusion is based on effectiveness.
Theory: The SSG in battle of god may be stronger than SSB if Beerus had the same power as he does now because maybe the ritual might make Goku’s SSG in battle of god more powerful than SSG after battle of god to the point that Beerus have to use 70% of his power while today he can still beat them. This really can’t help scaling because ultra instinct is funny and ultra ego is goofy
What does the j stand for in ssj?
@thinkintelligently5925
2 күн бұрын
Google says - Is it Super Saiyan or super Saiya-jin? Actually, S.S.J. is the correct acronym for it, as in kanji and katakana, it's Supaa (Super) Saiya (Saiyan) Jin (Person of that race).Nov 18, 2009
10:04 n 11:31 did u stutter? u said stanima 2 times 😂
how is it even a question
Toriyama didn't "forget" that SSJG heals. That's an anime exclusive ability. If it was forgotten later on, that's entirely Toei's fault. Not Toriyama's.
Ssjb slams
Super Connection
Best way to view it is when Goku used these in the ToP against Jiren. SSG: Jiren was able to block everything with 1 finger SSB: Jiren now needs to use both his forearms to block yet he's still getting pushed around through rocks while doing so
@Kyuubey0406
Күн бұрын
Also the fact that… it’s literally just straight up called super saiyan god with super saiyan stacked ontop of it.
It’s 2024 and people are still arguing this?
Super saiyan god looks much cooler and im so sad it got phased out within one movie
Super saiyan blue is stated to be a 5 million times multiplier so ssjg should be 100000X base
Ssg is also stated to use divine combat techniques
@Kyuubey0406
Күн бұрын
All of gokus god forms and even base form do that post bog, you know.
@mauricejohnson2351
Күн бұрын
@Kyuubey0406 nah toriyama specifically said when goku turns ssj god he utilizes god combat and divine techniques more, I forgot what he said about the blue form but nah
I feel like the fact that SSB is the evolution of SSG is pretty self explanatory.
@PhillipRubio578
24 күн бұрын
I remember back when people thought that the original god form was stronger than blue, there may be people that still think that
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ssg is cooler, i wish they used this transformation more often
SSG have an innumerable multiplier
ok
super saiyan god should of been the level above blue.
Super saiyan red vs super saiyan orange is even close
ssg is underrated
Light or L in white room
The Potara Fusion has a confirmed larger multiplier. In the Tournament of Power, Vados confirms that Potara is the full power of both parts multiplied by 10s of times. Base Buu Saga at his lowest is 10,000 times stronger than base Goku. A hypothetical SS3 Vegito is 4 million times base Goku at his lowest and that's ignoring the rival boost. Even in the Broly movie, Base Gogeta is pretty much implied to be as strong or stronger than SSB Goku because SSJ Gogeta went toe to toe with a non full power SSJ Broly. Anyway Going by Supers scaling, Super Vegito was 500,000 times stronger than base Goku at his absolute lowest.
Stanima issues lol
Dbs is a big mess with lots of potential.
How is this even a question?
...Why even say it's equal stats if it's not? No multiplier should matter if its equal stats.
Super Saiyan God was replaced by a worse form.
You have to stop making videos on the exact thing I was searching or looking for a few minutes before the video.
ok i thought saiyan god was the red form and it was just an influence of god* ki. i thought saiyan blue was that but going super Saiyan on top of that. why is it a debate? shouldnt the super form be blatantly better? im so confused now let me just watch the video SMH
@xSeulgi
2 күн бұрын
wait super saiyan god goku could beat ssblue vegeta because of his acclimation to the form and talent??? ERMMMM ok power system done fucking so right RIP the goat toriyama holy shit
@xSeulgi
2 күн бұрын
ok logic wins the later form is better gg ez