Why SSG vs SSB is NOT Close | Better Form?
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Why SSG vs SSB is NOT Close. Which form is better overall, just imagine an equalized strength Goku, which form is more effective?
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@Tubbladdle
2 ай бұрын
im happy your doing other anime like dbz as I grew up on it amazing video
@AventSir
Ай бұрын
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@Karim-ifInwUstfu702
15 күн бұрын
ssg its more like having fun with alot of abilities ssb all about fighting and winning
NGL Super Saiyan God looks more interesting than Super saiyan Blue at least design wise
@talonsandspears8129
2 ай бұрын
A very popular opinion my friend.
@nivnavion
2 ай бұрын
I think at least 3/4 of the fandom believes this.
@Shorts-wb4hq
2 ай бұрын
Thats basically saying I like the color red more than the color blue. It's basically a preference of which color you like more ATP💀
@nivnavion
2 ай бұрын
@@Shorts-wb4hqNo it isn't, SSJG has a multitude of differences to base, SSJ and SSJB. I can, of the top of my head, name 7, one for each dragon ball. 1. SSJG is the first canonical transformation to ever have a different aura colour to hair colour 2. SSJG is the first transformation in canon and non-canon to have a texture in the aura in the burning inferno it is 3. SSJG makes Goku look leaner 4. SSJG makes Goku look younger 5. SSJG is the first transformation to increase clothes and skin saturation rather than merely brightening it and yet remains the only one to do so. 6. SSJG is the first and still only transformation where the hair colour has a colour gradient: red-pink and arguably only if light is not a factor. 7. It's also the first transformation to keep the base form hair. SSJB has none of this and is just a lazy recolour of SSJ.
@Jayfym912
2 ай бұрын
Eh. I would’ve preferred if only Vegeta got blue and it was equal to God and they both mastered it but that’s just my opinion.
I really don't like that Red Super Saiyan is called Super Saiyan God instead of Saiyan God, as it's basically god ki+base form. I would wish Super Saiyan Blue to be called Super Saiyan God instead of the red one.
@link1565V2
2 ай бұрын
I've been thinking the same thing for a while. Problem is that SSB was not thought of when SSG came about. One of the downsides of Akira's more off the cuff writing style. Would have been great if Dragon Ball Super retconned the names. But it may have just made things confusing.
@nivnavion
2 ай бұрын
I don’t like this either, but it’s worth noting that SSJB isn’t actually SSJB, it’s just a shortened name made by Goku, Vegeta and Whis because it originally was a tongue twister. The actual name is of course SSJGSSJ or SSGSS, which makes sense as there’s two SSJs in it.
@link1565V2
2 ай бұрын
@@nivnavion Yes, we know. And while it makes sense. Having it be Saiyan God then Super Saiyan God still makes a lot more sense.
@dokkaner5934
2 ай бұрын
@@link1565V2 More like someone high up at toei shoehorned for blue/a new transformation to sell more toys. Ssb was a mistake & hopefully Toyo can fully drop the form out of the manga once it returns.
@link1565V2
2 ай бұрын
@@dokkaner5934 it wasn't a mistake, but it was introduced far too soon.
ssg is forgotten but it is a cool form that lasted very little until ssb came along
@JamesJackson-id9oi
2 ай бұрын
Wow good to know
@GiovanniSchedgick-dv1wf
2 ай бұрын
It’s not forgotten. It was used in the Moro arc as well as the survivor arc and the broly arc too
@BucketWasTakenTwice
Ай бұрын
And in the Manga it's gotten a decent deal of usage
@tobyscustoms4813
Ай бұрын
It’s used in the tournament of power also
@itsarin2166
Ай бұрын
@@BucketWasTakenTwiceyeah the manga utilize SSJ God more, especially on the earlier arc where Super Saiyan Blue was still "Unstable". I remember in the U7 vs U6 arc Goku only use SSJ Blue in short bursts switching back and forth with SSJ God while attacking when fighting Hit instead of straight up transforming into Blue the whole fight. It's also nice to see that Super Broly movie thankfully utilized the red form a decent amount (granted, Broly did beat the crap out of Goku) before Goku goes to Blue.
The healing abilities of SSG never appeared in the movie nor the manga, which means that it's just an anime exclusive thing
@fallenrealm49
2 ай бұрын
I'm pretty sure it shows up in Xenoverse 2 as well with ssg Goku having a slight passive heal
@nuclearwaste2062
2 ай бұрын
Its implied in the manga. Goku can use ki to heal himself. And he can survive deadly wounds long enough to eat a senzu bean.
@TheReZisTLust
2 ай бұрын
@@nuclearwaste2062Dende has been laughing at that bs "ability" since Frieza saga 😂
@TXPDO
2 ай бұрын
Nature Goku can heal things
@SlayingSin
Ай бұрын
It didn't even stay in the ankme either. Goku never used SSG to heal in the anime ever again.
Super saiyan god should’ve been called “Saiyan god” and super saiyan blue would be “SUPER Saiyan god”
@Samantha23478
21 күн бұрын
Nope think about it 6 saiyans combined power to become a god version what you going to call it Saiyan pretend god by 5 other powers of other saiyans 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@Urmomgay759
3 күн бұрын
@@Samantha23478no he’s saying that because ssjg is just base with base then just call it sjg
slight correction at 6:18, its not that gokus super saiyan god was stronger than vegetas blue, as stated by whis vegeta used it to much in one day and due to the energy drain of Blue vegeta wasnt able to use any more than 10 percent of its power, not because his blue is inheirently weaker than gokus god form, but just that his energy had been exhausted, but since goku hadnt used blue yet, his energy wasnt exhausted so god was more than enough to deal with hit, had vegeta not wanted to show off his strength and superiority of the blue form he could have also dealt with hit in god with relative ease, hope that clears things up
@breu5747
Ай бұрын
He was not able to use 1/100 of his true power
@animefanatic787
Ай бұрын
@breu5747 no, it was literally said by whis he can't even use 10% of his power, given the fact that we aren't told a number less than that the weakest we can put him at is 1/10th of his power, about 10 percent or slightly less
@Rethnapeditzprototype604
Ай бұрын
@@animefanatic787finally,i thought i was the only nerd about this...😅
@nahemahk
Ай бұрын
@@animefanatic787 So SSG is stronger than 10% SSB? which means SSB is 10x times multiplier for SSG at best, not 50x.
@animefanatic787
Ай бұрын
Yes gokus God was stronger than vegetas weakened blue, no the multiplier isn't less than 50x god, would the information conflict with itself, yes, bit those are the facts of the series, yes it seems contradictory but it is what it is
Video idea Why Krillin's hairline was way better than Goku's....
@saadsami8860
2 ай бұрын
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@PhillipRubio578
2 ай бұрын
@@saadsami8860 Krillin's hairline is definitely better than Vegeta's hairline
@ronaldomontero3624
Ай бұрын
@@PhillipRubio578 what hairline
@FakerSilverYT
Ай бұрын
@@PhillipRubio578I think you mean Vegeta's McDonald's sponsor
@kanewilson8624
Ай бұрын
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@TheDawgSlayer
Ай бұрын
CHUCK!!!!!!!
@averaging-sm7yf
17 күн бұрын
Who wins goku or saitama
@CutWat
4 күн бұрын
@@averaging-sm7yf goku lol
The word stamina was kicking your ass
@Kunal-jy7ik
Күн бұрын
STANIMA
that was a very interesting video, can you maka a video about vegeta's ssb evo? maybe in comparison with normal ssb or goku's ssb kaioken or even talking about vegeta's eyes an what they have to do with ssb... because your videos are amazing (especially dragon balls video or at least for me)
Oh my fricking SSG😭
@paulgilbert3139
2 ай бұрын
Meh ssj4 gogeta >
@Bardorock.
2 ай бұрын
@@paulgilbert3139overrated monkey, but i respect your opinion.
@gregkareem9824
2 ай бұрын
@@paulgilbert3139no
@cheefcuts
2 ай бұрын
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2 ай бұрын
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New video in the late night.
did you make this video by yourself or do you have a team cuz you post super frequently just for one guy
Ssg being practically useless is a joke
please do a video about frieza, how strong all his forms are etc :D
Can you make a video about certain types of outsmarting “builds?” Builds that focus on FSIQ, Thinking, Reasoning (Lawliet). Builds that focus on EQ, SQ, Manipulation, Deception (Light), or builds that are hybrid (Koji). The main reason people have takes from Koji low diffing Light to Light mid diffing Koji is because they don’t know how certain types of outsmarting builds interact; fix that.
@Worldoflight300
2 ай бұрын
This would be a goated vid ngl
@theguywithamissilelauncher
2 ай бұрын
avent u gotta make this vid
The fact that Goku went blue aura before getting that red form was very telling 😮
I Love SSB , SSB was my SSJ 1 , it was my first Great Dragon Ball Transformation , SSB gived to me the Impact that SSJ 1 gave to Old Dragon Ball Fans , and it is make Sad that they did not made a Good Use of this Form ...
@toptier6132
Ай бұрын
Goku 1st time going SS1 was so legendary...I still get goosebumps every time I watch it
@uglovasgaming
Ай бұрын
I don't know what you mean, shit was used in every arc
@ronaldomontero3624
Ай бұрын
@@uglovasgamingthey monologue instead keep fighting 90% of the story right?
OOH some DB Power Scaling We Ready
If I'm being Fr with you... SSGSSB is 50x stronger than SSG but it literally doesn't feel that way, in the anime and manga it just feels like a 10x multiplier at most
I'd say if he's in for a long fight its better to go with ssg or do what vegeta did and keep switching. In a short fight however turning blue and pulling out the ki belt is far better.
I hate that Super Saiyan Blue was achieved offscreen. Imagine if in “Resurrection of F”, Vegeta and Goku arrive to deal with Freeza. Vegeta demonstrates Super Saiyan God, and has Freeza on the ropes, until Freeza reveals his Golden form. Then in order to defeat Freeza, they have to push themselves by managing to harness the power of super Saiyan into the god form, thus creating the new form. This is my head canon.
Bruh ssb has never caught a body without teaming or time traveling
Which is stronger? Base form or Mastered Ultra Instinct?
@AventSir
2 ай бұрын
Funny, but = stats, what is MORE effective. That's the question
@apersonwhoexists3383
2 ай бұрын
@AventSir Depends, Ssjg was far less draining, but when Goku and Vegeta perfected Ssjb, it became a lot better by far. But even with regular ssjb, I'd still say it's so much stronger where it might balance out the disadvantages with the ki drain. But the most effective way would just be to go blue on impact, but the rest of the battle maintain ssjg, just like they did in the Goku Black arc.
I think SSBE should’ve been the original design for SSB. A lot of people think it’s ugly but I think the aura is too much.
@Kyuubey0406
Ай бұрын
Ssbe would not look very good on Goku, and also its way too muscular to be the regular variant.
Debating super saiyan god and super saiyan blue is like debating super saiyan 1 and 2. Blue is literally the ascending form I would expect it to win. It’s 50x stronger so it’s winning regardless
0:24 - 0:34 is cool ngl.
Since super saiyan blue is a super saiyan god going super saiyan, when are we gonna get super saiyan blue 2, where a super saiyan god goes super saiyan 2, and then 3 and a weird 4 transformation
Haha you went from stamina to stanima quickly
Super Saiyan God: Support Type Super Saiyan Blue: Strength Type
mihaw vid next?
Wasnt he fighting that blue guy in the tournament of power and says "im not gonna hold back on you" and goes from ssg to ssjb?
5:22 Against Goku Black and Zamasu in the Future Trunks saga, when Goku finds out that Black and Zamasu killed Chi Chi and Goten.
I didn’t even think that this topic was debatable anymore. It’s like pitting base Goku against Super Saiyan Goku.
Please can you make a video about rimuru(LN) vs anos(LN).
@maalikserebryakov
2 ай бұрын
thats actually interesting I forgot most of anos powers. Rimuru likely spanks
Red vs Blue just gained a new meaning
Bro said stanima 😂 good video 10:04
gotta admit ssjb in the thumbnail looks so clean
@StevenJones851
Ай бұрын
Well it was From the Broly Movie with that Awesome Animation and Artstyle
Make a video on ranpo vs L
_Remember when Goku was fighting Jiren, when he transformed into super Saiyan God red form Jiren was able to block the hits with a finger, but when he became super Saiyan blue that’s when the fight truly engaged. I just wish they would do super Saiyan three with super Saiyan God._
Man it sucked that SSG was only out for a little before blue took over. 😢
Yeah, 6:18 was a pretty big miss tbh. You even showed the panel where Whis explained why Goku was stronger than Vegeta in the Hit fight and still glossed over it, painting a narrative that Goku had better mastery over the form when that wasn't the reason for his better performance at all.
@StevenJones851
Ай бұрын
he really didn't pay attention to the Manga Version of that event
I see you agree with my SSG theory 😊
9:31 No matter how many explainations I get, it would have made way more sense for the red form to be called "Sayian God" and the blue form to be "Super Sayian God". The one exception is that it took Super Sayians to come together to make it. So it would be odd that super sayians would produce a regular sayian power. But we can ignore that if we considered that it was their power combining that made the transformation and not their type of power. Just the amount. As he stated in the video, the red for is diffferent from the blue form, hes skinnier, sort of uniquely adjusted. Where as the blue form is literally just the blonde form but with blue color visually.
I think the god ki has great potential as a concept if done correctly One thing I don't like is how Vegeta apparently got the form " all on his own" by training, the ritual should be the only way to obtain such power ( as well as needing to be a powerful mortal before accession ) or hell at least had to be part of that ritual in so they had a power rub from it Another thing that would help the whole power scaling issuses in super aka how the Z fighters all of a sudden become exponentially more powerful for the tournament of power and the like would this power run all the Z fighters have personal relationship with Goku effectively now a god, having a personal relationship with a god could give if inspiration, kinda sort of explaining how Killian could spar with blue Goku and somehow not get straight bodied
What if that prophetic fight Beerus was dreaming of is him fighting SSJG Broly.
What does the j stand for in ssj?
@thinkintelligently5925
Ай бұрын
Google says - Is it Super Saiyan or super Saiya-jin? Actually, S.S.J. is the correct acronym for it, as in kanji and katakana, it's Supaa (Super) Saiya (Saiyan) Jin (Person of that race).Nov 18, 2009
The multiplication is kinda nuts, if blue is a 50x multiplier over the minimum multiplier of x20.000 of god that would mean blue is a 1 million x multiplier? meaning farmer with a shotgun suddenly goes to dominating frieza's first 3 forms lel
Cool video but I'm getting dizzy from the 3d glasses ahh effect on every image
Favourite anime good vid as well❤
Like base vs SSJ?
If SSG has a multiplier of low ball 20,000, then that means he shouldve been one shot whenever he tries to fight in his base form, and he struggles later with even SSG/SSJ.
10:05 STANIMA????? 11:29 WHAT IS “STANIMA” ????? 11:48 STANIMA????????? ITS STAMINA.
It would've been cool if they made ssB weaker than ssG as the combination god and mortal ki with the mortal ki diluting the god ki makeing ssB weaker with them having to find a knew way to make ssG strong
@tylerbarlow6759
Ай бұрын
Back when ssb was first announced/hinted at before we saw it in action a major part of the community thought it was going to be exactly like what you said a ssj just tapping into a bit of that god power, would of been way cooler tbh ssb blew the already crazy power scaling out of the water
why is it called ssgss. isnt that just super saiyan 2 god? or super saiyan god 2? a super saiyan of a super saiyan aka a transcended super saiyan is super saiyan 2, so why tf the complicated name?
SSJ1's multiplier was initially x50, but the mastered form of the cell saga had a far greater output.
man they don't pour their Ki, they pour their hearts.
Vigor courage and mind, sounds a lot like the triforce: strength, courage, wisdom
they say u need a diff of 30% to ezily beat ur opponent this 50x so ssb wins but ssg is powerful in its own right
1.000X multiplier over base form seems pretty insane. By now his base form is stronger than SSJ in Namek. This would make SSG hundreds of times star-buster level.
Shocker
@AventSir
2 ай бұрын
if its equalized stats, people will still wonder what the conclusion is based on effectiveness.
I think SSB is better ngl, both forms look good but I think SSB has the better concept along with its details. SSB being SSJ combined with god ki and requiring a lot of control to use is pretty cool. Also it having a less intense aura and just being tranquil blue symbolizes the form's immense ki control.
The SSJG to SSJB multiplier doesn't add up in the manga. Vegeta at 10% power is less than Hit, whose full power is around SSJG level, and Hit wasn't near full power when fighting Vegeta. This implies SSJB can't be more than a 10x multiplier to SSJG.
IMO they should have switched the colors. Make ss god blue, with a calm sky blue aura, and the next firm fiery red.
I honestly don’t like the blue but it’s growing on me I just feel like it’s to much forms with crazy colors but I mean I guess we needed something fresh from original super saiyan
If we talkin straight power output, it's Blue, since it's "technically" a Super Saiyan with the power of Super Saiyan God. If we talking overall more effective and better portrayal overall? God, hands down.
Vegeta stating Goku's power level of over 9,000 was not a translation error. It was a script choice for the English dub because it fit better with the mouth flaps in the animation easier in English than saying over 8,000 due to the style of animation Japanese anime implements.
Correction healing ability of ssg was used when goku black stabbed goku
Video idea Ssj 3 vs ultra ego Which eyebrow loss looks worse
@chriss.249
2 ай бұрын
It's pretty evenly awful I say Ego. The lack of hair makes him look like a naked mole rat😂
@maalikserebryakov
2 ай бұрын
@@chriss.249must be like looking in the mirror for u then
@chriss.249
2 ай бұрын
@maalikserebryakov Imagine talking shit on someone u don't even know over roasting a fictional character😂 Idk what's more sad. That, or future gohans death U tryna roast when I bet u look like Dodoria behind that screen😂
In my opinion, SSG should just be called Saiyan God since its a normal saiyan with god ki. I also like SSG more than SSB for a few reasons. One being that it looks cooler imo. The red base form hair is only seen in base and ultra instinct. The aura is unique and resembles actual fire as compared to just blue of SSB, and his eye look sick. Two being that SSB kinda stole the spotlight from SSG. It was hyped as a game-changing transformation that would be able to clash with the likes of Beerus, and a divine higher power. As soon as they learned to stack Super Saiyan on SSG, it became useless and is only ever used as a energy-efficient version of SSB like in TOP and the Broly movie. Really deserves more love imo
Super Warm vs Super Chillin
...i liked the video and all. very DETAILED 🤏 explaination but isnt this just...A form is stronger than the previous form like ss1
I think that say you have five saiyans, then ssg becomes a form that's really strong but without the extra boost its not as potent
I always wondered ssg has a massive heal ability like buu except it’s fire 🔥 that would make that form pretty over powered in my opinion
SSGSS or Ssb this is not a debate yes red looks better and should have been the main form it’s crazy it’s 2024 and people have dumbass debates like this when is goku and Vegeta going to use weaker forms overtime just like the next villain is most likely stronger then the last
the reason god Goku was stronger than blue vegeta in the u6vu7 arc in the manga is because vegeta was tired due to using blue to much, it was stated by either beerus or whis that vegeta was at 1/10th power when he fought hit
Can you do BB vs Mello Vs Near Or BB vs near/mello
_The Potaro fusion is close to divine ki but not exactly divine ki, super Saiyan god is divine ki, which allows Goku to inflict damage on gods Or entities of divine nature. No matter how strong a natural being becomes, they cannot truly inflict damage on a divine being_
Super saiyan god looks so fucking beautiful and super saiyan blue is basically just a recolor 💀💀😭😭
I mean super saying God was stated to just be super Saiyan with God ki if I remember correctly either that or base form with God ki it's one of the two and super Saiyan blue is literally like the supers Saiyan two equivalent to God ki it's the next transformation up so it being stronger is a given
Bro with equal stats they are just equal☠☠☠
If the battle goes on for long, I'd say that God gives the advantage in a fight against an opponent of roughly the same strength due to it's passive recovery in terms of stamina, though if the forms are against each other, Blue wins easy
A side note from the tournament of power in the anime, Goku uses SSG at some points due to it being faster and points out that SSB has more power bus SSG is faster.
@duckboy5725
20 күн бұрын
SSG is not faster stop spreading false info this was never said
Best way to view it is when Goku used these in the ToP against Jiren. SSG: Jiren was able to block everything with 1 finger SSB: Jiren now needs to use both his forearms to block yet he's still getting pushed around through rocks while doing so
@Kyuubey0406
Ай бұрын
Also the fact that… it’s literally just straight up called super saiyan god with super saiyan stacked ontop of it.
The number goes even higher when goku in his "false" ssg form was confident he could fight beerus. The same goku who immediately denounced the idea of fusing even working altogether Ssg>"false" ssg>fp vegito
@sc-1918
2 ай бұрын
He wasnt confident at all, he was just excited because it open a new path to become stronger. He also didn't know how strong he was and what do you mean "false"
@Zeno1781
2 ай бұрын
@@sc-1918 He was confident he could fight beerus I mean "false" ssg because it was the empowered state goku got before he completed the form Vegeta even notes the ki as the greatest ki he ever felt, vegeta is 50% vegito
@Zeno1781
2 ай бұрын
@sc-1918 Goku immediately shuts down the idea of fusing even working He then gets this "false" ssg state and was ready to fight beerus had whis not mention him failing/ not attaining the ssg form
@sc-1918
2 ай бұрын
@@Zeno1781 "Vegeta even notes the ki as the greatest ki he ever felt, vegeta is 50% vegito" at the moment he couldnt sence god ki and like i said goku was excited to test his new power he further more confirm when he said "the a level i never expected to reach on my own" on his own.
@Zeno1781
2 ай бұрын
@sc-1918 the form that goku underwent from only 4 saiyans 💀
If goku and Vegeta stayed in their regular super sayain god forms would they be immortal?
Ok if ki has a limit then tell me how the fu- did gohan without beast appernelty rivaled blue and beats rivaling like mui HOW
I honestly could've lived without SSB, SSG felt like it was going to be a departure from the norm of Super Saiyan'ism. SSG should've been treated like UI where it was a gradual progression of mastering the form then leading it into UI vs what we got, where SSG was essentially deemed useless immediately after its inception. IMO SSB feels as if it doesn't belong in the franchise lmao blue doesn't fit the color palette of the series at all, hell they could've made SSG just Saiyan God, and SSG red with super saiyan yellow aura mixed with the red god ki.
Not gonna lie, Super Saiyan God got treated better in a mobile game than the actual show. Yes, I'm referring to Dragon Ball Legends with Shallot
This is a silly question, ssb is 50x ssg same as ssj being 50x base
The healing ability is anime only therefore not a toriyama original added in by toei so since it’s never brought up again most likely filler
I love how fans point out that technically Super Saiyan Blue has possibly the worst W:L ratio in dragon ball history
“Stanima”?? Bro, what are we doing?