Did Rory praise David Gauke so much that he woke up as his hero this morning?

@Matt-ty3hr

17 күн бұрын

He was doing a bloody mary incantation in the mirror. His wife said "stop gawking and help fit this fuse box" (presumably). The rest, as they say, is hist - no wait, it's politics.

@rodcurrieclassics8102

16 күн бұрын

Read Rory's books. They're a great read and illuminate that he felt Gauke, who he served directly under ( as well as Truss and Johnson) is a man of unimpeachable values and honesty....which T & J most certainly aren't. What's not to like.

@philipmulville8218

16 күн бұрын

If he drinks enormous amounts of coffee ☕️, munches his way through several pens, and performs the most exquisite facial gymnastics, then we’ll know.

@thalesh680

14 күн бұрын

What did Gauke say at 30:48 - 30:49? I'm not a native speaker.

@MangoBingo78

14 күн бұрын

@@thalesh680 David Gauke is talking about the defection of MP Natalie Elphicke to Labour, and says: "or Baroness Elphicke" i.e. implying that Keir Starmer might have her appointed to the House of Lords as a Labour Peer (a bit later, Alastair jokes that David Gauke might also be considered for the House of Lords).

Rory Stewart’s Gaukification surgery went well

I have never voted for the Conservative party in my life, but I would have been happy to have had David as my MP. He comes across as a very sensible, reasonable and decent man.

@Joe-og6br

16 күн бұрын

As I always say look at his voting record. I've done it with Rory and it's not good.

@anatolydyatlov5196

16 күн бұрын

All voting records tell you is what party they're in, you get told you have to vote for something or you get the whip removed

@My_Name_Is_Brian

16 күн бұрын

@@Joe-og6br yeah true, but he has spoken about that

@QuickyA2011

15 күн бұрын

Voting records are not necessarily representative of how good/bad a politician is. You have no idea what the amendment is, or whether it was 'whipped'. Voting record isn't a good barometer of anything.

@beachcomber1able

15 күн бұрын

But Gouk voted against giving destitute and homeless orphans Christmas presents. 😮

This guy was our local mp when I was a kid... it was a shame to grow up and realise he was the outlier of what the torys stand for, he was a class act and made our 2019 vote a lot easier by having him as an option over the alternatives

@billythedog-309

16 күн бұрын

So you voted for him as an independent candidate?

@willh5901

16 күн бұрын

@@billythedog-309 my parents did, I was too young to vote but a lot of people didnt like the idea of having to pick between boris or corbyn so he was an easy out. I would have voted for him as an independent candidate then and would vote for him at the next election as one

@adamthj

4 күн бұрын

@@willh5901Rickmansworth gang🤘🏻🤘🏻

A first-class stand-in for Rory!

David was superb. Thank you.

David voice is what I expected it to be The strict headteacher but is kind hearted 😊

I have come to adore David and his sense of humor 😂😂😂. He should always step in if you are a man short👍👍👍.

Whatever your politics, this is a fantastic podcast.

@My_Name_Is_Brian

16 күн бұрын

Yeah... I think as long as you're between center-left to center-right

@johnhood1779

15 күн бұрын

Yeah I enjoy it but their understanding of the Left is incredibly poor. That does then also narrow discussions on policy

@riaz8783

15 күн бұрын

​@@My_Name_Is_Brian But I think that's the point in that politics has become so extreme that reasonable debate and compromise has all but disappeared.

@My_Name_Is_Brian

15 күн бұрын

@@riaz8783 yes to us, but we fall within between those brackets. For example take the comment from @johnhood1779 written above yours

@My_Name_Is_Brian

15 күн бұрын

@@johnhood1779 Maybe, but some probably people probably think the same with your understanding of the right

I was very impressed with David Gauke,much more like the Tories I remember before Thatcher. I'm like Alistair,on the left,but thought he talked a lot of commonsense, not something you think of in Tories today.

The problem for me is that I fundamentally disagree with what the Conservative Party stands for - low tax, low state involvement, its anti-trades union stance, and its attitude to the welfare state. However decent a chap David is (and I’m sure he is, rather like our own MP, Greg Clark), I can’t overlook his support for a party that has done so much damage in its present and past years in government in my nearly 70 year lifetime. I cannot forgive them for that.

@georgesdelatour

14 күн бұрын

The UK's tax burden is now the highest it's been since World War Two, and the state's share of GDP is the highest it's been in peace time.

Gauke is fantastic - what a government we would have had with him and Rory

@geraldbutler5484

12 күн бұрын

No we wouldn’t the rest of them would be sitting behind with sharpened blades. Your nostalgia for pre Thatcher Tories is is doff your cap and tug your forelock dreaming.

Hi Alistair and David, I've commented this a few times on different videos and posts but I think it's a really important topic to cover, especially following the conviction of David McBride, about the treatment of whistleblowers and the important role they play in showing corruption in institutions.

Forget the general election, I’m campaigning for David Gauke to be a permanent member on this pod

David Gauke was our MP. One of the only acceptable Tories. Also does some very good impressions and has a sense of humour, pretty rare for a politician.

@gladmoss

16 күн бұрын

Yepp. He is funny😅. Hope he comes back more often

@willrelf1377

15 күн бұрын

There’s no such thing as a Good Tory

@adamthj

4 күн бұрын

@@willrelf1377wetty 😂😂

Between jobs last year I spent a month in Tblisi in March when essentially version 1 of this protest was happening. The one thing that I think that viewers and listeners would be interested to hear about is that, post the invasion of Ukraine, there have been hundreds of thousands of Russians crossing the open border into Georgia to avoid conscription and further political hardship. This has created a melting pot effect in Tbilisi between Russian migrants buying up property, sending house prices sky high, and the young Georgians who are prepared to put their safety on the line to disaffect from any Russian interference in their Country. This even affects social lives, with many bars and nightclubs barring patrons who are Russian or even those who have a Russian stamp in their passports. This sentiment can be found elsewhere too. Notably in Gori, the birthplace of Stalin, where locals put on walking tours of the city "free of the propaganda of Russia's Stalin story"

There were about 30 Tory MPs in the pay of Russia at one time. I don't think David gauke can say much about Labour in this area. Remember when Ben Bradley said Corbyn was a Czech spy? The same Ben Bradley who said that unemployed people should be sterilised was recently on a channel Four documentary about toxic masculinity.

I'm glad you mentioned Corbyn and Abbott. This and Palestine and the issues around lying and the lack of ambition in the economic plans are very serious matters.

Essential viewing. A thoroughly enjoyable podcast.

This podcast is the best advert for the tories

Delighted he won the award. Great book and I enjoy all of your intelligent, informative and interesting podcasts.

The amount of times the Gov Website had to redact portions of his speech his proof that it was a Party political speech, so he definitely shouldn't have delivered it standing behind the Government Coat of Arms, at the Taxpayer's expense.

@ianworley8169

16 күн бұрын

Perhaps it's also a matter of Parliamentary Immunity and the danger of Conservative Party HQ falling foul of libel laws, if they reprint slanderous comments made by Sunak, particularly against Keir Starmer, outside of the House of Commons.

@DylanSargesson

16 күн бұрын

@@ianworley8169 The speech wasn't made in Parliament.

Re Lithuania: One of my colleagues is Lithuanian - he said that he, his brother and his father have agreed to return to Lithuania and fight if it is invaded. The belief that Lithuania is vulnerable has reached these shores and is clearly taken seriously.

The only interesting part of this (I felt sick listening to Mr Gauke giving basically zero shits about thousands of people dying in Gaza) was Campbell saying it was a bit odd that we have a Labour Party where Diane Abbot and Jeremy Corbyn are "not labour" but some right wing ghoul from the Tory party is. He is clearly a bit uncomfortable with that, and I wished he had pushed back a bit harder.

@DJWESG1

15 күн бұрын

This is about setting the agenda. Solidifying the false realities they are creating. Campbell is a vile little propagandist who happily rubs shoulders with social mass murderers like its completly normal. They're all lucky I'm not a copper.

Came away from this wishing David Gauke were the UK Prime Minister

I love Gauke!!

As a Conservative I am totally inline with Mr Gauke, homeless but not keen, possibly couldn’t, to vote for Labour. My view is this could be Kinnock 2.0 if Labour don’t come up with more than sound bites. Currently see No Vision, No initiative, No Milestones, hopefully No hope. Unless we can see measurements and realistic targets alongside policies then they won’t get the buy in, leading to K2.0 and certainly You won’t get that second term.

When a brand's as toxic as this, there is no recovery. You need to start over, with none of the deadwood around - and that goes to grassroots level.

when that dude said "handcuffed to a radiator" my mind went instantly to Boy George.. sorry Rory

@liberalmatt

Күн бұрын

Or Terry Waite back in the 80's. Was going to say I'm showing my age but I'm only 51!

A question that sohuld be asked of anyone who brings up the term, 'free market'. How did Adam Smith describe the free market?

Now you're Gaukeing!

If you've got a pulse you're pretty worried about the US elections ...

The mental gymnastics needed for this task are off the scale. 'We don't want to be what we are, so we will be what we think we are not'

@rickatatastan2695

11 күн бұрын

Indeed. The Tories are such a mess of contradictions. They're at a crisis point where their beliefs are at odds with popular opinion, so they have to tone them down, make them sound rational and sensible. He mumbles out "free-market" like it's a dirty word, but although it seems fine at first, it's the tip of the neoliberal iceberg, and we've witnessed how wrong it ends up with inequality up the wazoo, rivers of sewage, rickets and rats in hospitals. Tell me more about your "free-market" capitalism.

I just wonder now how you can trust anyone who claims to be a Tory. In my area they are not even putting their names on canvassing material that is being posted out. That tells me all I need to know.

@My_Name_Is_Brian

16 күн бұрын

Would you vote for them anyway tho?

Not seen kwasi interview part 1, is there a link?

So David Gauke would follow Buckland and not tell the standards commission and conspire in a cover up? He can't have it both ways. Never trust a tory or a former tory.

@lilscottieme

16 күн бұрын

Either you have no Tory family, friends or work colleagues or you have a weird ass relationship with them.

The Rwuanda issue is a political solution and not a national one

Better

David Gauke talking about defence spending now being an investment that could mean we need to spend less now. What a cheek when his party has failed to do the same in health and *social*care (hospitals currently can't discharge anyone becasue there are no nursing/ residential home beds or packages of care to get them out to) and has championed the neoliberal nightmare that's pumped sugary addictive foods into the increasingly unhealthy world population.

Several points to raise: First: Considering that you released this episode on the 76th anniversary of the Nakba of 1948 in Palestine I find it both jarring and appalling how you continue to parrot Israeli talking points without evidence and with such conviction. Considering the atrocities being committed by Israel and UK's role in starting this conflict historically, I would challenge Mr. Gauke on his comments on the situation and ask him to provide any evidence rather than just continue justifying what is quite frankly unjustifiable, particularly on human shields ( a point that have been proven to be wrong and actually committed by Israel, not Hamas. Plus a correction Hamas offered to release the hostages and agreed to the ceasefire so for you to claim that they basically are to blame for the continuation of this bloodshed is ignorant and even racist. Don't use the Holocaust to justify another one). While October 7th was a crime, this conflict did not begin then and what happened since does not justify the actions of Israel and you do not have any right to determine who has or does not have a right to self determination in the Middle East. I would also challenge the program to bring in a Palestinian Historian or expert on the topic since it seems that their perspective is completely taken out of the equation while we still try to understand Natanyaho mentality and focus on the protestors as though it is not Palestinians who are being senselessly bombed and displaced. Having only the Ambassador is not enough considering that it is Israeli talking points and Israeli friends whose point of views are being highlighted. Otherwise just declare yourself on one side and stop acting as though you are impartial. Second, I found myself slightly surprised when I agreed with Alistair when he said that it is weird having someone as a right winger as Elik accepted to the Labour party while MPs remain without the whip. But then he went back to the importance of winning and I found myself again back to my natural position with him. Newsflash on that btw, we know that Starmer is ruthless, there is a reason why he is nicknamed Kid Starver and Labour is Conservative Light. So while Labour is going to win the elections, I can tell you that it will be a Brexit flavour win whereby you would not get many votes from the youth category because frankly we do not feel we are being represented by any of the politicians currently on offer. Therefore when you discuss disinterest in politics you can maybe start asking whether current politicians know how to engage with youth who seem to have lost hope in the system and which might lead to Trump winning again . Final point is on the format of the show, because I do not believe that having two people on the center of each party meets the purpose since there does not seem to be much of a debate anymore even when one of the co-hosts is changed

@dmt472

16 күн бұрын

Preach King

About the same reason that Labour are not happy about seeing the front of them.

Thank you.

Will there be video from the episode with Nancy Pelosi?

With lists system this wouldn't happen the reality would have been that each trive/family/sector would have their vote account. With a proportional representations on the style of Spain with regional divisions but with some sits reserved for smaller partys from less populated parts of the country

How does foreign agents bill pro Russia when it helps to sort out illegal NGOs.

I Like the new guy

Do the Leading interviews not get posted on youtube? are they podcasts only?

@michaelmccomb2594

16 күн бұрын

Some do, but seem to be more delayed

@JoshDGibson

16 күн бұрын

@@michaelmccomb2594 thanks

Is it just me or is it absolutely disgusting the labour take these despicable people into the party... Calling it simply politics...i wanna vomit

@catherinedemorvan5032

16 күн бұрын

I fear it is a tory plot and she"s a trojan horse wot Stammer has fallen for hook line and sinker as he did for the Zionists gaza propaganda...

@Turtles-are-kinda-gay

16 күн бұрын

Exactly I'm kind of surprised (I know I shouldn't) that Alister was ok with this after how often he talks about standards in public life

Do you think a Labour government will be as centrist as Kier is portraying it or do you think the Corbynite/ further left wing of the party will take over after the election and do you think it’s right for a party to govern in a different way to how it campaigned?

@marumaru6084

16 күн бұрын

The country is already on the left with the Tories massive tax massive immigration.

@carlmartinez7532

16 күн бұрын

As someone who is very much more Corbyn than Keir i dont think you have to worry about Keir suddenly turnning massively left wing. It is funny as my more centerist friends do keep telling me he is going to be more radical than he seems i dont buy it, you have to look at the pull factors and there is more to pull him right than there is to pull him left. As for the man himself no idea i couldnt put a mask on like that for that long and i think people who do can forget which is the face and which is the mask.

@josephknott6174

16 күн бұрын

@@carlmartinez7532 not concerned with kier himself, but about what the party as a whole wants, or worse, what the membership wants if the party decides to ditch kier at some point, basically is there a risk of the left wing equivalent of truss happening or just kier being forced into a more radical position by his party

@Alex-ni6xs

16 күн бұрын

​​@@josephknott6174you need only look at how the Labour party has treated left leaning MPs and members to answer your questions. Some quick examples are Jeremy Corbyn and Diana Abbott still don't have the whip but Natalie Elphicke welcomed with open arms. Also Jamie Driscoll, a former mayoral candidate, removed from the ballot paper under false pretences. He was even the incumbent mayor and prevented from running. Labour now receives more donations from big businesses than it's members. In the Corbyn years this wasn't the case. Labour should not be a party of big business, they're a party for the workers. You could even look how Kier conducts himself. Abandoned all 10 left wing pledges he campaigned for leadership on and introduces an idea to nationalise the railway which is stolen from Corbyn despite what they'll claim. It's safe to say that current Labour is firmly on the right.

@matthewv4170

16 күн бұрын

I think it will be exactly the same

As does Rory

All remember about Czechoslovakia It give Britain and Italy issues politically Thomas. Noar Minghiner said Habsburg Austrian Empire before becoming Czech break up again.

Labour are centre right. See how far right cons are. No choice for real change. No environmental plan. Were heading for 3 %c , its time for action. 🌎💚🌍

David Gauke is a great counterfoil to Alaair Campbell and its great to hear yet another set of xreasonable views. I think Labour are keen to present as representing "working people", those who don't earn their living from property or share portfolios. Perhaps that is still "class-based".

@Alex-ni6xs

16 күн бұрын

Think they're trying to represent this but current Labour are not for the working class. I would argue that Angela Rayner's new working deal has been watered down so much after consultation with big business. To me, this is evidence that current Labour are not pro working class and instead are pro businesses. Cannot be both

@VinceLammas

15 күн бұрын

@@Alex-ni6xs I heard Rachel Reeves explaining the move on zero-hour contract rights and the position seemed reasonable to me. I note that they are talking about "working people", not "working class" which is an important distinction. Working people are those that don't earn their living from property or assets.

@Alex-ni6xs

15 күн бұрын

@@VinceLammas Making the unreasonable sound reasonable is part of the modern politician's role. It sounds there is some similarity in our definitions of "working" but I'd define anyone who works as working class not working people. To me, the U-turn is not reasonable because the much needed protection and rights of those within the gig economy have been taken away and proposed rights of temporary workers have also been taken away. This affects millions of people who need a level playing field within the working space. When one learns that it's big business lobbies that are the source of this change it begs the question "Are Labour really on the side of workers?"

@VinceLammas

14 күн бұрын

@@Alex-ni6xs Labour appear to be introducing an employers obligation to offer a contract based on the average hours worked over a 12 week reference period while allowing employees to refuse or opt out if they genuinely want to retain flexibility. The idea is to address the power imbalance and exploitation that seems to be endemic in the gig economy. I should explain that I have been in Human Resources for many years (NHS most recently) and that approach does seem well-targeted. As an aside, I know many would argue that (for example), Head Teachers, Nursing and Medical Directors are not "working class" in the traditional sense ... but Labour want to represent a broad spectrum of our population.

@Alex-ni6xs

14 күн бұрын

@@VinceLammas If it's to restore the power imbalance it begs the questions why make it optional and who does it restore the power balance to by making optional? There are landmark cases with Deliveroo and Uber where their gig workers fought for the same rights as other employees yet the companies resisted and ensured lengthy court battles. Flexibility shouldn't be at the expense of one's deserved rights as an employee. They're not mutually exclusive. What optional does allow for though is employers to exert pressure on employees not to take the contract. You may argue this is far fetched but you need only look at Amazon exerting pressure on its Coventry warehouse employees not to join a union. There are posters with QR codes around the warehouses and presentations are delivered to discourage union participation. Its easier to opt out of union membership than it is to discontinue Amazon prime membership. It's easy to imagine an employer exerting pressure on an employee by threatening to take away work. By giving the option to opt out it doesn't benefit the worker and it ensured a power imbalance. The system is now it open to abuse by employers in a way it wasn't previously

David seems perfect for Neo New Labour.

@crazytacticsdave4017

17 күн бұрын

So the New New labour lol. They should have just called it Neo Labour from the start.

Kharkiv is within range of 152mm rocket assisted shells, but I don't think Russia has many of them. So no, Russia is not within tube artillery range of Kharkiv, even if the pieces were right on the front line, which they are not.

@waterdragon2340

16 күн бұрын

They're doing a lot 9f shopping on the international armaments market

Do uou really talk about Israel-Gaza like a local election when thousands of innocents are being purposely killed.

@DJWESG1

15 күн бұрын

They killed 130k ppl in the first 24 months of austerty. And 500k ppl in the last 14 years. Minimum. They are mass murdering fascists.

Well, having seen this [whispers] I prefer this guy over Rory tbh.

@nickhobbs6514

11 күн бұрын

Hi Rory

So who's here wondering who is going to be the next party in charge after Labour? Lib dems?

David Gauke is such a wasted asset in British public life, sad.

The “far-right” was a term that once applied to people like the National Front, British National Party and historically the British Union of Fascists. This term is now applied to people who are essentially Thatcherite and/or who have a belief that nation states should be the bedrock of international engagements and not international organisations with federalist agendas like the EU.

Alastair has never tried to hide the fact that he is a political animal, but I was struck listening to him say how much he loved trying to woo defectors and how admirable he finds party leaders who view winning at all costs to be their raison d’etre. I find such naked calculation to be a very unattractive quality, and I suspect the average voter also views politicians with such cold Machiavellian principles repellent. I suppose we should all be grateful to this podcast for shining a light on how little regard backroom operators have for voters.

Lets talk about how the deterrence of the rwanda plan is already working

I don't think it's necessary for a Defence Minister to have a military background - I mean our current Defence Secretary doesn't even have a University degree or any experience.

@andrewharrison7767

15 күн бұрын

Our current defence secretary also gave a ferry contract to a company without any ferries, so that's a pretty low bar.. Returning to your main point though, backgrounds in a subject sound like an obvious advantage if passion based, Johnny Mercer as veteran's minister for example - but it can create blindspots & groupthink; could a registered doctor expose something like the maternity issues reported on this week, or the infected blood or thalidomide scandals of the last 50 years, or might they be tempted to cover it up? I've grown up the 3rd generation of a military family, including serving myself - but whilst our experience might cover from Aden in 60s to Afghanistan 50 years later, it wouldn't help make us better at defence secretary - although the cockups over the last 25+ years, between procurement disasters (aircraft carriers, Ajax vehicles & Clansman radio replacement) & sending troops into Iraq without an appropriate logistical supply chain; or sacking troops whilst deployed - neither party has had a proper focus on defence since before Thatcher's cutbacks emboldened the Argentinians 42 years ago, regardless of the minister's backgrounds

@DylanSargesson

15 күн бұрын

@@andrewharrison7767 They bring whatever biases they've built over the years into Government - that can be helpful, but it can also not. Another problem with Ministers who have specific experience is that they might put (too much) focus on the parts of their brief that they have experience in, while failing at everything else that they're meant to be doing. A Defence Secretary that was in the Army, for example, might not give the Navy and Air Force proper attention (either because they just don't know that stuff, or they don't want to). A good department has a healthy mix of people who are subject specialists, and people who aren't (but are otherwise competent managers).

@georgesdelatour

14 күн бұрын

Ernest Bevin was the illegitimate child of a single mother whose formal education stopped at age 11, while Anthony Eden got a double first from Oxford, and he was fluent in Farsi, Arabic and Turkish. I’d say that, on balance, Bevin was a better Foreign Secretary than Anthony Eden.

Rishi Sunak has now been in the public eye as Chancellor or PM for 4 years, quite long enough to be able to form an opinion of his abilities or lack thereof. The biggest thing on the plus side of the ledger is his work ethic. Praised by Dominic Cummings no less. That should be no surprise, given his family backgroud with two hard working professional parents. But there it stops, no imagination, no passion, no hobbies, no friends. What made anyone think he would be a good PM, able to steer the country away from its problems god only knows. He doesn't really seem to know what the problems really are and he doesn't seem to be all that bright really! You can go an awfully long way on hard work, A levels, degrees even busainess school are about putting in the hard hours rather than raw intelligence.

All thats missing is a pub back ground.

Without understanding what "automated luxury communism" is, I could tell you putting it on a manifesto is the dumbest idea I've ever heard of. That was labour in 2019

By the way where is your condemnation of Israel's genocide hmm?

Alastair slipping in "allegedly" at 23:00. 😂 Its ok Alastair, he was convicted, you can say it!

So many reasons to hate everything a ‘Tory’ stands for. This guest is no difference.

Rory for PM

Tory Party is like North Korea!

"Far right" my arse.

David Gauke - great stand in for Rory - how elequent and knowledgeable. Would have made a great Tory leader.

@DJWESG1

15 күн бұрын

How.many would have died under his leadership? Less or more?

@Claymore5

12 күн бұрын

@@DJWESG1 A damn sight less - I assume you mean Covid in that respect - and don't try and lecture me on that I lost two very close relatives and one of my best friends to that horror.

"Reclaim from the far right" rory your centrists have been in charge for 14 years 😂

@matthewv4170

16 күн бұрын

The centrists left the part in 2016

@lewis123417

16 күн бұрын

@@matthewv4170 Theresa may isn't a centrist? Boris Johnson isn't a London liberal? Nothing conservstive about them

@matthewv4170

16 күн бұрын

@@lewis123417 no...they are all statist with left leaning tendencies and some right wing rabble rousing rhetoric

@DJWESG1

15 күн бұрын

​@lewis123417 irrelevant, they are self identifying torys. Tory means 'robbers and theives' , they self identify as pirates ffs. And they kill as pirates kill, indiscriminately.

Who would you be voting for in islamist constituencies?

David's asking whether labour are class based, like the Tories aren't??

Don't bother.

So Keir is not safe supposedly. If anything he's Mr Safety personified. He's too safe. Has he ever done anything unexpectedly?

@tmarritt

16 күн бұрын

I mean their most recent MP 😂

It seems to me that immigration is not directly an objective of right-wing politics. The primary objective of right-wing politics is to favour the more wealthy, both individuals and businesses, but a secondary objective is to do this without the majority of the electorate realising and inflammatory issues such as immigration provide a perfect fascia (the stem of fascism, etymologically at least... 👀)

@DJWESG1

15 күн бұрын

They cause migration crisis to bait the rw and nationalists. They've been doing it all over the world as part of their culture war agenda. Part of a economic plan to create national economies. Aka economic nationalism.

Meh! Really boring - politicians trying to impress with what they heard and read on the media echo chamber but staying “safe” at all times - maybe you could give meditation a try ? That is that is how people achieve and maintain an internal, independent moral compass. One could say much more about Gaza but it would be a waste of words here.

An interesting episode, but Rory and Alistair are still better foils for each other. Rory's analyses and explainers are missed - come back soon!

defect or learn how to swim when people toss them into the channel

The second smuggest political podcast. Only politics Joe is more pleased with itself. Quite enjoy it mind.

Gaulke, Stewart, Campbell. Three cheeks of the same Liberal arse

While Gauke may come over as reasonable he still signed up blindly to Austerity without bothering to find out the catastrophic economic damage it would do. Not just that but kept up the facade when the IMF told Osborne he was actually shrinking the economy in 2012/3

Noar minghiner excellent give good advice on Skokie issues with this politically Thomas. He finished yes Thomas. RIP hope recovers Slokia PM. He socialist no Hardline conservative Thomas. Is crisis dreadful in Slovakia yes. BBC said fatal. Italy better system politically Thomas. Would care about it no. Italy better security it top 🎩 in the world.

Putin is turning Russia into North Korea but Russia has a lot of minerals. So, in 3-4 years' time we are looking at a huge military industrial complex that might not be advanced, but it will have a depth that is unimaginable rigth now. The west has already missed the bus. If the pilots and other system training had started back in 2020, at least covertly; For example, giving U.S. or E.U. passport to potential pilots and army technical officers and then train them as U.S. or E.U. citizens, then even if Ukraine was defeated and they would be able to return, they would have bolstered the army personnel in EU and US that are short of manpower and subsequent administrations couldn't change it. Ukraine is the result of indecision and lack of long-term planning. There had been fighting going on in the Donbas region for years. The transport lines from Russia would have been destroyed by now and they wouldn't have had time or the equipemt to dig in. Meanwhile the U.S. and the U.K. are making, if trophy wives then super cars that are only good at chatting up pretty blonds. Putin's frame of mind changed back in 2008 and probably in reaction to the 2008 economic disaster and the phony stability of the International financial market. He probably lost some money himself. I would have lost faith had I been in Putin's position.

Alistair Campbell trying hard to rehabilitate himself for his role in the invasion of Iraq. So much blood on his hands. He should be ignored into irrelevance

What a clown David Gauke is. He essentially wants anyone whose even slightly actually culturally Conservative out of the party and the only ones left to basically be no different to Labour (which to a large extent they are already, minus throwing breadcrumbs to their base every once in a while so they'll vote for them). The fact he is a former Conservative MP tells me everything I need to know about the absolute state the Conservative party has been in for a long time now.

The labour party and the cover up of the grooming gangs in northern cities should never be forgotten.

You two should bring on Peter Zeihan who is a geopolitical strategist. I think he would be a great interview for you two.

@DJWESG1

15 күн бұрын

What??

Conservatism as ideology should be abolished. What's the point of stifling progress to maintain the current status quo at the expense of literally everyone who doesn't hold the power? Well that questions kind of answers it...

@matthewrobinson2172

16 күн бұрын

I don’t think you understand conservatism

@dmt472

16 күн бұрын

@@matthewrobinson2172 Sure buddy, maybe look up the defining traits of the ideology and hopefully you'll learn something

Sorry Mr.Campbell, but Labour accepting Elphicke and Starmer listening to Mandelson so much has me very close to not lending my vote to them. Another mis-step and my vote is gone.

@michaelmccomb2594

16 күн бұрын

Who are you voting for now?

@DylanSargesson

16 күн бұрын

The cold fact is that a voter who swaps from Tory to Labour (in a Tory/Labour marginal seat) is worth 2x as much as a Labour vote lost to some other party/not voting.

You both make me feel like voting snp

This man is certainly more detestable than Rory.

Would you consider the John Major government as far right? I ask this as almost anything remotely to the right of centre seems to be branded as such. Given, in my view, the centre ground now appears to be where New Labour was, how do you view the conservatives trying to return as a far right movement? I truly believe it would be better all around for a proper functioning Conservative Party free of all the Liberal Democrat’s. Even labour benefits here as they will have a good opposition to test them while in power. It also provides clearer choice for voters. We might even have a left, centre and right again rather than this muddle of vaguely left parties.

@KidarWolf

17 күн бұрын

No, I consider John Major's government to have been moderate right. The current Labour party to me, seem further right than that in significant ways, and the current Tory party is skewing so far right I think I'd struggle to fit a sheet of paper between them and the British Nationalist party.

@Chickenpie113-bb5gh

17 күн бұрын

Everything is far-right and populist now. Any issue that isn't economic is called a culture war or a distraction. These words are used to shut down debate. Wanting to reduce migration is now far-right extremism, despite around 70% of the voters being in favour of it. The poll done by TRIP, and polls done by others, show that more support Rwanda than oppose it. The same goes with the trans debate, where any nuance is called bigoted and evil. You can even support trans people but believe prescribing people with puberty blockers needs to be done with caution. However, no...that view is still bigoted, still evil, or alternatively it's "toxic and divisive" and we mustn't say it, or look "there's a cost of living crisis, shut up and don't talk about these issues". People should stop being so tribal.

@jamesc264

16 күн бұрын

It is amazing to me now that anything left of Genghis Khan on the political continuum is now considered leftist. By what were traditional and historical norms before everything got skewed; John Major was moderate right, or small C conservative, Tony Blair was moderate left or small L labour. Widening that out Thatcher was big C conservative and Corbyn was Big L Labour. Boris Johnson was just a political opportunist that carried people for a time, would say anything for power and aligned himself with ultra Big C conservatives like Rees Mogg and by extension Farage. There seems to have been a deliberate attempt by the Ultra C conservatives to move the whole basis of political debate to the right. Clever opportunistic politics, but not accurate or honest objectively. And when is anyone in the UK from anywhere on the political spectrum going to have the moral fortitude to state the obvious. BREXIT has not worked, and there is precious little prospect of it working in the future, and accept that the UK made a mistake. That is not to say what can be done to ameliorate the problem, but as the old saying goes, unless you recognise/acknowledge a problem you cannot fix/reduce it (in any way).

@jak9410

16 күн бұрын

@@KidarWolf Name the specific policies which the Tory party has enacted that you think are 'far-right.'

@KidarWolf

16 күн бұрын

@@jak9410 The "Let it rip" approach to the pandemic, for starters, that cuts so close to eugenics it's frankly horrifying. Blaming people with mental ill health for systemic issues in this most recent debacle of statements by Sunak is another - again, scapegoating an entire group of people who are suffering under austerity. Austerity itself is another, that caused untold suffering and deaths in many who were denied the safety net needed to keep them safe and alive. Blaming foreigners at large for the outcomes of Tory policies is another. The call to withdraw from the ECHR similarly has concerning far-right undertones, particularly when viewed in light of the fact that people such as Suella Braverman and Boris Johnson have been openly derisive of gender and sexual minorities, the desire to withdraw from the ECHR by the Tory party indicates, to me, a desire by the Tory party to trample over the human rights of minorities. The repeated attempts to shut down the right to protest under increasingly draconian rules, laws, and policies is another - suppression of the right of protest is widely recognized as the activities of a fascist government. How many more examples do you want? I'm far more politically engaged than the average person, thanks to an excellent history teacher over 30 years ago now who taught me some very important sociopolitical lessons while teaching the history of some of the most infamous examples of dictatorships.

He is what was known as a 'classical liberal', not a conservative.

@jsci23232

16 күн бұрын

Ofc gauke is a conservative, just not a populist, if you believe in the free market and traditions like the monarchy, you are a conservative (small c)

@Rory626

16 күн бұрын

Free market capitalism is liberalism though. Conservatives have traditionally been more protectionist, ever since the Corn Laws were repealed ​@@jsci23232

@DigitalGnosis

16 күн бұрын

No. This connotes heterodox right opinions and radical individualism. As a One Nation conservative Gauke is more Burkean (critical of individualism). Stop listening to Sargon!

TWO MUGS ALASTAIR???

The way these people discuss Russia/Ukraine it's as if nuclear weapons don't exist

I'm worried that Rory likes this guy... I'm so far away from this!!! Give me Novara Media!!

@michaelmccomb2594

16 күн бұрын

He’s from a similar centre-right/One nation tradition to Rory.

@Rory626

16 күн бұрын

You're on the wrong KZread channel then mate

@fplyerbs5251

16 күн бұрын

@@michaelmccomb2594 I know, I guess I just hoped Rory was closer to me than he actually is

@fplyerbs5251

16 күн бұрын

@@Rory626 yeah you're totally right...I just hoped they were a little closer to me politically

@michaelmccomb2594

16 күн бұрын

@@fplyerbs5251 I think the main reason Rory likes Gauke is because he was a competent minister with real integrity, and then it’s an added bonus that they are both on the same wing of the party