No time, no money, no jobs, no work life balance, poor compensation, poor quality of life for kids, and pathetic maternity benefits. Such a mystery.

@henrytep8884

Ай бұрын

You forgot the biggest, no respect for women

@gregvanpaassen

Ай бұрын

You forgot expensive, small housing, and too expensive to get married, and the belief that egg freezing works more than a third of the time. "One or two" problems for the new minister to sort out.

@andresmattos7541

Ай бұрын

Nah materialism and selfishness. Koreans during the Korean war were dirt poor but we're having x6 times more children.

@83DragonWolf

Ай бұрын

That’s why I chose not to have children.

@sdaiwepm

Ай бұрын

Many countries face these and other challenges, and yet continue to have kids. So it's not the full story.

The wolves are upset that the sheep aren't reproducing!

@jaysonp9426

Ай бұрын

Exactly

@user-pv2xy1og8h

Ай бұрын

You very right sir! This proving why the China will be defeated by Bharat in future because we have many more babies than they! Jai Hind!

@patrickstar686

Ай бұрын

Who's the wolf? Germany or Men?

@ninedux

Ай бұрын

@@patrickstar686 corporations

@mrbbqify

Ай бұрын

@@patrickstar686 the Korean elite

Overworked + underpaid = no babies.

@CordeliaWagner1999

Ай бұрын

But pro st tion is exploding.

@shinji1264

Ай бұрын

Simple math

@u.2b215

Ай бұрын

Humanity has been overworked and underpaid forever and still there were plenty of babies to be had. No, this is something else. Koreans and many others in the same situation have lost their way and their senses.

@caitlin3875

28 күн бұрын

Same in the western countries too

@DeadPiixxel

26 күн бұрын

​@u.2b215 time to change that we're taking back the power

Best indicator that's something wrong in the society. South Korea has also very high suicidal rate, something that makes you think of...

@rmot2911

Ай бұрын

1 side you have this while other side with large populated nations of USA, China, India, etc, huge population faces challenges with underemployment and unemployment. Mass Automation knocked that out where Automation began 1000s of Years Ago including Waterwheel Technology of 2000 Years back.

@rmot2911

Ай бұрын

South Korean Population Even if goes down by Half its Population by Turn of the Century will Still Have Higher Original Population than Many of the European Nations, Canada, Australia, etc that are Getting Replaced by Asians because the Original European Population has been Lower than Asian Population where Original Europeans are becoming Minority thanks to Ageing and Lower Births too (Suicidal Rates are Highest in Larger Populated Nations)

@quasimodo8215

Ай бұрын

Don't get me wrong, I admire the development path Korea has had but at the same time I think it's important to consider what price you're willing to pay for never'ending growth. Where this extremely materialistic way of thinking can lead can be seen in sometime decadent and dehumanized societies like in the US. In my observation, the Scandinavian countries are the most successful in establishing the important life balance. It is society and its norms that shape us and our way of thinking. Very rigid and traditional ways of thinking leave very little room for different personalities. Many brake in the process. Japan has similar problems. We will (fortunately ) never become machines but depression is the reaction to a non-humane way of life. Something that still makes me incredibly angry and sad was the Sewol tragedy and the way it was dealt with afterwards. It is an example that can be used to study the entire problem in order to look for solutions. I would be very happy if the Korean state and especially the people were able to build a more loving society for themselves. The sweet Korean children will come on their own. P.S. I felt a strong need to add this few thoughts to my previous comment.

@rmot2911

Ай бұрын

@@quasimodo8215 Yes, but even Nordic Nations tried what USA, Australia, Canada, NZ have - Getting Immigrants where Didn't Work A Lot. Most European Nations, USA, Canada, Australia Had Lower Original European Population Even Before Ageing, Less Births Began. WORLD ECONOMY is Headed for USA vs Asia where Original European Population are becoming MINORITY in Most European Nations, NZ, Australia, Canada, USA, etc by 2050 or So Slowly Replaced by Asians

@LoveForBluebirds

Ай бұрын

Economic growth should not come at the sacrifice of allowing excessive immigration and changing the face and culture of the nation. South Korea should not follow the path of the US or Europe. Limited immigration and maximum assimilation come before the economy.

People who have children nowadays are either doing very good financially or are completely delusional.

Long working hours. South Korea Needs to invest more in people and less in innovation.

@danusdragonfly6640

Ай бұрын

It's the corporations and the wealthy having precedence over the average citizen that they expect to be good little worker bees.

@rmot2911

Ай бұрын

1 side you have this while other side with large populated nations of USA, China, India, etc, huge population faces challenges with underemployment and unemployment. Mass Automation knocked that out where Automation began 1000s of Years Ago including Waterwheel Technology of 2000 Years back. South Korea's Population Even if Halved Will Still Be in Better Situation than Many European Nations, Australia, Canada, New Zealand etc where the Original European Majority will become Original European Minority thanks to Ageing, Less Births where These Nations Already Had Lower Population than South Korea when South Korea decided to halve its population

@s.m.1354

Ай бұрын

@@rmot2911 so those countries should find ways of adding productivity to the planet through innovation. That is not going to be a reason to prevent advanced nations to continue to enhance their own nations.

@user-84-rg9-8n2

Ай бұрын

The North needs to take steps to reunify with the South - just like the former East Germany did in 1990. Then social assistance and innovation will be a breeze.

@rmot2911

Ай бұрын

@@s.m.1354 Immigration is a solution though let's look at what is happening in European nations, Canada, USA, etc. Most don't want that too. Anyway, South Korean Population Even if Halved by Turn of Century will Still Have More South Koreans while in Many European Nations, Australia, Canada, NZ, the Original European Population will Become Minority by 2050 or so due to Ageing, Less Births Too (Original Europeans are going down by births and ways getting replaced by Asians + others)

We could have easily devised a system to make our lives better in every regard with all this technological progress to benefit from, but people's unchecked greed destroyed everything.

@shiptj01

Ай бұрын

Correct.

@Loki-sk7bi

Ай бұрын

100 percent…

@CordeliaWagner1999

Ай бұрын

100% right.

@NA-ud6qm

Ай бұрын

Yup

Human beings are not machine to work for the rich and breed workers for the rich.

@johnnybrave7443

Ай бұрын

Yes, but humanity needs children to continue their legacy

@FactsCountdown

Ай бұрын

@@johnnybrave7443 nobody in history is remembered because of their children. What legacy? Legacy of wage slavery

@johnnybrave7443

Ай бұрын

@@FactsCountdown their children will remember their parents, their grandparents etc A society needs children to continue the human species and to take care of the elderly population , elderly population needs care like children too

@abhisheksing8379

Ай бұрын

​@@johnnybrave7443 Children are not commodities or products to use.

@johnnybrave7443

Ай бұрын

@@abhisheksing8379 everyone knows that , you can't have a functioning society with just elderly people though 😔 The future generations are the ones who will be building and maintaining the society in the future, afterall we can't have a society where everyone lives in isolation

Hypercapitalism

@24killsequalMOAB

Ай бұрын

Not enough Capitalism

@askosefamerve

Ай бұрын

​@@24killsequalMOAB To kill the population?

@franzsigel7166

Ай бұрын

@@24killsequalMOAB like we just need to abolish the minimum wage, ablolish unions, and make 120 work week standart then we can rise the fertility surely.

@24killsequalMOAB

Ай бұрын

@@franzsigel7166 none of those things address the fundamental problem in modern products. Planned Obsolescence is a feature in a society that promotes corporate bailouts which are not capitalist. Also, endless regulations and taxation has disincentived people from being smart investors and forced them to invest into real estate.

Young women look at their mothers and grandmothers and decide that they don't want this Lifestyle. All over the World.

@lhurst9550

Ай бұрын

You nailed it, we gave women a choice and they destroyed the world.

@kreativeforce532

Ай бұрын

FOOLS

@lhurst9550

Ай бұрын

Yes, we gave women a choice and they destroyed our society.

@carmenricard3332

Ай бұрын

Smart ladies.

@user-uskxnfiw729

Ай бұрын

Except middle east and africa. You gotta wonder why.

Who wants to bring a soul to this world? ❤️

Just me, or it was quite weird and a bit invasive to go straight to her personal situation and plans during the interview?

@firetruckenthusiast8596

Ай бұрын

Right?! So much for professional journalism 🙄

@sharpasacueball

Ай бұрын

I swear they always manage to find the worst interviews when it comes to news about the East

@JadeWhite-xf9xq

Ай бұрын

Yeah, it was weird for me too. Such a lack of tact

@JadeWhite-xf9xq

Ай бұрын

Yeah, it was weird for me too! Such a lack of tact

@stevezelaznik5872

Ай бұрын

It was weird, but she raised some great points in her response.

almost like exponential growth is unsustainable.

@Flickvids100

Ай бұрын

Hahahahaha, exactly...almost like ONLY thinking about the market, your salary and serving the company until the day you die does not pay off...unbeliveable they are coming to terms with this just now (if they even are).

@shiptj01

Ай бұрын

Correct.

@jeremygardner5987

Ай бұрын

@@Flickvids100doing everything possible not to admit it. I mean, when your cultural identity is “not-communist” lol

@yairsegal2427

Ай бұрын

Tell me how exactly a population that is declining severely negates the fact that exponential growth is or isn't sustainable? How did you tie these two concepts?

@leonardodakimchi

28 күн бұрын

​@@yairsegal2427because the top 10% controls more than 50% of the wealth.

Low birth rates are all the developed counties issue. Not just South Korea that follows the trend faster than other counterparts.

@peterpark5630

Ай бұрын

Wrong, south Korea’s birthrate is now 0.6. That is way below all developed countries combined.

Depressed society

@abhayyyy15

Ай бұрын

Modern society

@endeend1

Ай бұрын

Reduce all housing prices by 50%. Ban foreign ownership, Ban Commercial ownership, Ban people owning more than say 2 total homes. Offer heavily subsidized childcare across entire country.

@geesehonk

Ай бұрын

​@@endeend1Many of what you said has been implemented in North Korea since many decades ago and look at how they are living right now.

@CordeliaWagner1999

Ай бұрын

What if women just don't want to be mothers?

@andriibakhtiozin4477

Ай бұрын

​@@CordeliaWagner1999it is an option indeed, however in the context of government and country in long term strategy it is something they have to be worried about constantly. In Ukraine for example we had an extremely low birth rate in the period of 1991-1997 and In addition to war, high migration before war and during it created huge disbalance when one working person has to support 3 pensioners. That generates a lot of pressure on youth, especially when u are not even sure about ur pension

South korea fertility dropped from 6 children per Women in 70s to 0.9 😱😱

@jh-nl8yf

Ай бұрын

its almost 0.6-0.7 now..

@carkawalakhatulistiwa

Ай бұрын

6,0 is in 1955 0,68 in 2024

@timmy-wj2hc

Ай бұрын

Capitalism happened. Over exploitation in the name of greed.

@hiphophead8053

Ай бұрын

We're all on the same trendline my friend just at slightly different rates, no country has yet been able to reverse this trend

@2msvalkyrie529

Ай бұрын

Nigeria / Egypt / Mali / Pakistan Chad / Kenya ......etc etc... But yes , we know what you mean....

Not just SK. By 2030 1/3 of all Japan will be 65 or older. Taiwan is in trouble too. Italy and Spain. Germany. All low birth rates. It's everywhere.

@UserUser45654

26 күн бұрын

Not Israel, it helps when you are getting subsidies from multiple countries, including Germany!

@israel_illuminati_Rothschild

14 күн бұрын

Singapore too

@Narendersingh-id5ng

11 күн бұрын

My country india entered the chat 😎

@maxpower3990

10 күн бұрын

@@UserUser45654Israel also subsidises its religious orthodox section of society. No compulsory military service and a government stipend to study at a religious school. The birthrate among this group is about 5 babies per woman compared to 1.5 for the rest of the country.

The government should have legally binding contracts with parents to guarantee fully state-sponsored childbirth, healthcare, education and housing until the child is 20 years old. Governments should not be cheapskates. You want babies, you pay for all the costs!!

@CordeliaWagner1999

Ай бұрын

Germany has that. German women just don't want to be mothers...

@TheNiklas55

Ай бұрын

@@CordeliaWagner1999 What are you on about raising a child in germany is expensive and no the goverment does not pay for that. You could be happy if you even get a place in a KITA. Not even to talk about that houses a freaking expensive.

@Biju5789

Ай бұрын

​@@CordeliaWagner1999 childbirth in Germany is free, thats all. After giving birth there is no more support

@tomorrowneverdies567

Ай бұрын

WHere will governments find the money? 🤔

I wouldn’t want to raise my child in the South Korean society either.

Korean government did this to their own people. Everything is expensive. Other countries also following this trend

The most responsible people have the fewest children. The most irresponsible people….

@geo865833

Ай бұрын

Exactly...

@faraz1604

Ай бұрын

Facts... Indian slums have more children than rich and middle class people.

@nixonesport1998

Ай бұрын

Korea is finished

@yjc219

29 күн бұрын

YUP

@AmidalaEmma

29 күн бұрын

I don’t know if this really applies to Korea because single mothers are considered a pariah in their society. So people there are looking for the best situations for children.

I'm amazed at how little tact the presenter showed when he asked Mr. Jeonming such a personal question! Someone who does this job professionally should have the ability to address this topic in a different, more respectful way without becoming personal. I didn't expect something like that from DW!

@roberto789shadow

Ай бұрын

Yeah, felt the same way, that's her business! Like it's not enough with her family (probably) telling her she should get a partner and kids soon, now she has to take the awkward question from a motherf-cker from the other side of the world on live?

@EugWanker

Ай бұрын

I agree. However, the guest handled it perfectly, with class.

@sdaiwepm

Ай бұрын

I was surprised as well. Possibly they had discussed this beforehand? I hope so!

@j3dwin

Ай бұрын

I completely agree. When we interview candidates for positions at our company we are forbidden from asking personal questions like their plans for a family.

@petersebela6225

Ай бұрын

They probably discussed beforehand.

She said it best when she talked about that highly competitive Korean society.

Conformity, Bullying, Competitive Tests in school, and a strict "Top-Down" hierarchy in their culture. (Which favors the older people, instead of young parents.) Plus: A lot of these guys are hesitant to have children if there's no daycare provided. And the fact that South Korean women feel like their concerns aren't taken seriously. Especially with medical issues and bad relationships.

@bobhookstratten9567

Ай бұрын

And from what I've gathered, South Korean men really hate domestic work and duties.

The news anchor overstepped by asking the lady such a personal question off the bat. Rude. SK has more than enough resource to subsidize child care/ aupairs, maternity medical & mental health care I'd think. Wish he'd asked if they have policies in place for that.

It's 4B MOVEMENT

If you think this is a unique issue for south korea you are naive, birth rates have been collapsing in every country , the difference is in countries like south korea and japan where there is almost no immigration , the effects are more pronounced.

@hhwin2198

Ай бұрын

India and Nigeria have population boom.

@qawsedrftgyhujikolp1919

Ай бұрын

Japan's birth rate is twice that of South Korea. Not suitable for comparison.

@hiphophead8053

Ай бұрын

@@qawsedrftgyhujikolp1919 I know this is a little hard for you, google japan birth rate chart and tell me if the line has been going up or down lol

@maxpower3990

10 күн бұрын

@@qawsedrftgyhujikolp1919it’s is because even if Japans birthrate is twice as high as Koreas it’s still terminal. Japan is still a rapidly aging and shrinking population, just not as rapidly as Korea.

Introducing a four day work week will help with increasing fertility. Would the government and corpos be willing to take this step?

@patrickgz

Ай бұрын

true, there are many ways to help increase birth rate. it all boils down to if politicians and society are willing

@mutkaluikkunen3926

Ай бұрын

No, it would slow down the process of wealth concentration. They need to have their trillions even if they have no idea what to do with all of it.

Commonly in eastern Asia for the high pressure cultural systems...Sigh...

@asdasdasddgdgdfgdg

Ай бұрын

It is mostly Korea and China. Japan Vietnam etc have significantly higher birth rates.

@kageyamareijikun

Ай бұрын

@@asdasdasddgdgdfgdg Singapore, Hong Kong, Taiwan (you forgot these)

Ridiculous and telling that DW isn’t reporting on its own even worse demographics. 50 years from now ethnic Koreans will still be the majority in their own country. That might not be the case in Germany. The birth rate is also extremely low in Germany and even that is bolstered by births to non-German mothers.

The Korean problem is not the quality of life in numbers, but the qualitative cost you have to pay to get that quality of life. The society is so hierarchical and competitive, leading to an enormous amount of stress, which young people do not want to inherit to their children. In a way, a tragedy of compressed high growth.

@sy-ym5df

2 күн бұрын

As a Korean, I totally agree with your idea

일단 여가와 평생교육의 의미가 개인에 정착이되고 이걸 기업 학교 정부가 지원하는게 맞아요.

@mrnarason

Ай бұрын

shibal

Ppl are too judgmental.

A society that affords to buy luxery items, cosmetic surgery etc but can't afford to save and have children. Great job.

@TaylorLeeKnow

Ай бұрын

Somewhere a random interviewer even said they are depressed cause they can’t afford to buy a Gucci or Dior bag so they can’t even think of raising kids at the moment lol. They are very materialistic, seems like only showing off is their everyday lifestyle.

@antinatalistwitch111

Ай бұрын

They save for what they WANT! Not what the government wants. 😕. Seems beautiful to me!

@willlee9550

Ай бұрын

Yea and average American makes 45K a year and popping out babies left and right living in foodstamps wasting tax money and single mom is rising. Great job.

@tomorrowneverdies567

Ай бұрын

It can. It just doesn't want to😁

Every young people in Western societies are crushed under housing expenses. Unless higher taxes for capital gains on investment properties are passed in many countries. Housing will continue to be an issue to keep young people's economic stability.

@tomorrowneverdies567

Ай бұрын

How on earth will taxing the poor make housing cheaper??

Korean politicians always say that low birth rate is a grave crisis, but they never try to resolve it and have no idea what the trigger is. In addition, only thing they can do is attributing those issues to young generation. God help us...

@niendeiv9898

Ай бұрын

Seems that you are missing the point seriously. The truth is that government itself can not afford to help people in the country maintain their high standard of the life. So In the first place, it's plausible to say that it's people who attribute their problems to government

@tomorrowneverdies567

Ай бұрын

The trigger is (mainly) that people found better modes of entertainment. Watching KZread videos, watching series, films, playing video games, fb, instagram, etc. Ban the internet and people (in your country and elsewhere) will make 5 children each. 😁

Super unnecessary for the male anchor to ask the female reporter such a personal question 🤦‍♂️

@gobimurugesan2411

Ай бұрын

Felt same

@cantescape4310

Ай бұрын

Why did you bring gender into it? FemceI

@Juwanisbas

29 күн бұрын

My thoughts exactly. Or hecould have asked it a more subtle way

Very unprofessional for the interviewer to ask the guest about her own family plans. This surprised me, I wouldn’t have expected a DW presenter to do that.

@dt7353

11 күн бұрын

Tv is scripted, she knew the question was coming and agreed to answer it.

It is not the pigs who are worried about their numbers lowering, it's the farmers and feed sellers who worry.

A super nation. When only the best and richest are having kids, you can imagine what kind of society it will be.

@maxpower3990

10 күн бұрын

Spoiled and entitled? That sort of eugenics has never worked in any nation at any time.

House to expensive for new family . Old rich people have 4 home As an investment. Increase house prices

People take pride in different things these days. We are at a strange crossroads, where its hard to do hard things, when the culture of love, support and loyalty of marriage or relationships seems to be at an alltime low, If you think abiout it, what keeps people fighting the good fight, is knowing in their hearts, they are loved and supported. If that basic foundation isnt there, there isnt much motivation to put up with all the chaos of parenthood.

At this point it’s impossible for Korea to pull out of that nosedive. They’re too far gone.

@lornam1142

Ай бұрын

I doubt it’s impossible. They’ve already taken a good step with the more left-wing party overwhelmingly controlling the Legislature.

in the future how many kids you have represents how wealthy you are

@tomorrowneverdies567

Ай бұрын

Or how religious you are. O r how ideological you are. 😁

The real problem will appear when there are less people to pay taxes and the state needs money...

@maxpower3990

10 күн бұрын

No the real problem is when North Korea decides to start a war and the South Korean military is half the size because parents stopped having kids. Even if South Korea wins the casualties will be concentrated among the 20-30 year old men, exactly the group you will need to make a new generation, making a terrible problem worse. Korea would need to allow immigration or do what Paraguay did after its war against Brazil, Argentina and Uruguay and allow polygamy.

To make sure their kids turn into competitive adults, they have to spend more on good education, which makes the cost of having children even higher. In a work enviroment where you dont have security, kids become a risky investment. Having laws stablishing some limits and obligations on a work relationship isnt a commy thing. Minimum wages, maximum working hours per day, paid leave, etc, etc, etc.

When you steal people will to live and force them to be slaves of billionaires for whole lifetime they wouldn't like to pass this stress to next.

Economic prosperity are seen as a good outcome, but not on every aspect, mainly not in social ones as seen here

@patrickgz

Ай бұрын

its a constant phenomena in all 'developed' country

@Jose04537

Ай бұрын

More like depressed wages and crippling debt.

Everyone is saying immigrations, why does any society want to see their women exploited by migrations? The solution might be to support working married couple with some benefits, give women the option to stay at home and be the educators of their children or extend school hours where children get free day care in the mornings and then evenings so parents can work. Don't pump in immigrants or encourage single parent families.

@dudutrutru7548

Ай бұрын

"EXPLOITED" Bro's gf was taken away by a wealthy immigrant😂

If people don't want to raise a family in their country, what does it say about that country? Korea is not the only Western consumer culture country with this problem

@peterpark5630

Ай бұрын

Wrong. People want to raise kids in America

This is condition of almost all developed countries. Education, health should be completely free in every country.

As societies become industrialized and women become educated and have careers, they are also less willing to be kept barefoot and pregnant. This phenomenon is not limited to South Korea.

will be interesting to know the percentage of 'old folks home' or 'day care' growth. bet this growth coincides with declining birth rate. the popular excuse is all in family need to work to buy 'materials'. caring for the old or the very young by family if not viable or profitable

Government subsidies are not enough, and they don't like you to work full time..sometimes Im thinking to give up government subsidies and work full time and send my children's to my country..I can save more than living here in korea..all freaking expensive.!!

It's the same thing in Finland even though the work life balance is said to be good and maternity leaves etc. benefits are pretty good. I for one have never wanted to be a parent. For one, the hassle of rising children is huge. I don't want to get stuck in that, having no time for myself. Secondly, I don't think it's morally right to bring a sentient being into this existence, meaning the way our life mostly consist of either getting ready and educated to work or the work itself. Most of your good years are spent running around in the hamster wheel, not even really living a life. Also the whole existence in a broader sense doesn't make any sense. All the pain, worry, sadness, loosing people and diseases. Sure there are nice moments and if you're a really positive person, you might be able to scrape this thing to net positive experience, but for most people, I don't think that's the case. Many people get children with a bit similar way as they would get a pet. They want to have children for their own reasons, not thinking for one moment what's it going to be like for the kid. Then they even go about calling the people whom don't have children as selfish, like "at least we're bringing in more tax payers" and things like that. Yes exactly, like kids are for your personal entertainment and slaves. Then many people have kids because "it's expected of them" and "that's how things have always been done" etc.

@minsaria1035

Ай бұрын

You are completely normal. I think that parents who give birth are very selfish, irresponsible, and like psychopaths who do not consider the child's perspective at all.

@heermannmorrer

Ай бұрын

Friendly reminder that you were also born by your Parents

@askosefamerve

Ай бұрын

In the end of the day it's their choice and not yours. Your openion should be respected as much as the others.

@curtiberg

Ай бұрын

First you say raising a child is difficult... paying everything, taking care when it becomes sick, educating is a lot of work. And then you say having a child is selfish. How can it be selfish when you look at all the words I wrote on top? Having a child is a lot of work but it involves a lot of love as well. I don't consider myself selfish for having my kids. And it was the best decision I made. I might have given up a few things but I don't mind at all. And giving up a few things, changing lifestyle... since when is this considered as selfish?

@mutkaluikkunen3926

Ай бұрын

@@curtiberg It all compounds to the forming a reasoning not to have kids. Yes, there's probably love in there, but it's selfish still. You're bringing a child into a crappy reality without it's consent. Now your children have the only choice of having to survive. Did you think even for a second what the life is going to be for the child and is it actually worth putting a sentient being through that? I highly doubt it.

I wish i could see the chaos of aging societies when the majority of their population is single old folks.😂

@user-84-rg9-8n2

Ай бұрын

Just like at Columbia, UCLA and everywhere in between.

@greatman5836

Ай бұрын

So what

@pearlyung

Ай бұрын

These single people are financially prepared for old age.

@Nabil-ef7lo

Ай бұрын

People need to see this collectively instead of individually, yes Old folks gonna have pension and savings but when the whole nation barely have any Working age population who gonna pay that pension? Who gonna take care of them? This put too much heavy burden on working age people in the future and the nation as a whole resulting in inevitable crises or revolt

@agnimitram340

Ай бұрын

​@@pearlyungold people don't need much money. I think an 80 year old granny will wish for a child to take care of her or even talk to her more than a million dollar.

Can't I use the Galaxy anymore?

Many on the right would point to both South Korea and Japan as monocultural successes - a model to emulate. The next 30 years will undo that idea.

The expectation of kdrama is influencing the people choosiness 😂

Cultural norm. Like there's so many pretty korean models artists girl groups but they don't try to engage in relationship because fans doesn't allow it and it means career downfall.

We are looking at 4 degrees temperature rise by 2100 and old people still can't figure out why we don't want to make a bunch of children that will suffer in horrible conditions and probably end in war and extinction. 😂

@carkawalakhatulistiwa

Ай бұрын

No south Korea problem is they have Extreme sociality

@FactsCountdown

Ай бұрын

Yes old boomer still living in fool's paradise totally ignorant of future chaos.

@michasosnowski5918

Ай бұрын

Sums it up.

@24killsequalMOAB

Ай бұрын

Climate Change is not among the top reasons for East Asian infertility

@Longhouse3321

Ай бұрын

While in the middle east they have 5 kids each😂

can barley afford myself but surely I will have kids for the well of society, so my kids will be raise in an unbalanced future where they will work until 80years old to pay for a aging population

Thank you South Korea for spearheading a beautiful and existentially important global trend - let’s reduce population numbers and give our survival and nature a chance 🙏🏾♥️

@zorrosdog6557

Ай бұрын

Sub-Saharan Africa is still exploding

@ermv

Ай бұрын

Exactly what I wanted to say! Thank you @lissik.1481

Crazy that mostly men discuss this topic. Feels like women just don't care ...

Same like Italy - low birth rate

@franzsigel7166

Ай бұрын

South korea is far worse.

The sad thing is that if it weren't for the fact that they border a literal "1984"-style despotic hellhole, South Korea would rightfully be called out as a hyper-corporatist, psuedo-cyberpunk hellhole.

It is better for current 30+ to arrange and invest for time after their retirement than to be ready for being burden on future youngsters.

This is not an issue all that is talked... When it happens, it called a bit society reset !

It's a very demanding society. It comes from my real life there (over 30 years as a Korean). Now I live and work in another country with new citizenship here. If somebody asks me about relocating to Korea, well... I'm not sure if I can make it.

Too much overworking, when you come back home you are exhausted and without free time.

Just put all the blame on the untouchable Chaebol class of South Korea. The chaebol's unparalelled power and influence into every facet of Korean society is a significant contributor to the nation's major ills.

I would have been fascinated to hear more expansion about what the speaker meant about “changing society” before she would consider having children. What does she want to change? How does she think society can get there? What would be governmental programs to achieve it? Instead it was just a blanket answer.

Good looking men plus good looking women dont mix…

I think its the indicator that their society advanced and is conscious of just how much the child needs(and how much their childhood was lacking). So they stopped to have them. Most parents dont give a second thought about their own upbringing and go for it despite having little preparation and healing from their own traumatic childhood. And it gets passed on - while those who dont procreate are considered the problem. I dont have any symphaty for these mothers, who would want to work and be mothers(at the same time I respect their decision to abstain from motherhood if they cant stay at home). What about their children? Child needs parental figure constantly during his first few years(around 6 ideally) - not some stranger at daycare taking care of 10 or 20 more children and being paid minimum wage.

No modern woman wants that lifestyle nowadays. It's not just in South Korea, it's everywhere.

@peterpark5630

Ай бұрын

But koreans took it to next level in korea

Nothing will change until everyone feels the suffering.

This is the future for all capitalist countries…

@travelertuber9487

13 күн бұрын

More than just economics, are social norms and foundations being altered by current "progressive" social engeneering and lack of competitivity for men. Times have changed insanely different, Young girls today (speceally in 1st world countries) only want to party and have fun bashing good honest traditional guys retaining only the beneficial part of the "equality" they preach. Then when time pasess it's too late for them, noticing how resentful these men turned by it they blame it on "machismo and misogeny". Left leaning failed states experiment the opposite which is overpopulation, babies are doom to suffering and died sooner or later. A stable society has enough room for them, which is the diference.

There is no perfect time to have kids. Delaying it further and further will make women end up with IVF and other prodecures and unlikely pregnancies especially after let's say 40. Ideally you should have kids around 30 regardless if its a "perfect time" imo. Think if your great-grandparents and that they had 8 kids in much poor conditions usually. My great grandma had 7 kids and they did not have running water or electricity.

Did SK surpass Japan?

@jh-nl8yf

Ай бұрын

in what aspect? low birth rate certainly did.. japan is also low but korea is at another level..

The tax burden would be outrageous forget pension. They better believe women women would be forced to joint the military to protect the benefits they enjoy. the way south korea does rent and home purchasing needs to change. Plus the people who marry or have children with koreans, speed the process up for them to be citizens or residents. I have ex military friends who went back to south korea to marry girlfriend's or live locally with their wife and its been difficult to get paperwork done and their from the states, so imagine for everyone else!

Causes of low birth rate in South Korea. 1. Addictions of social media/It/AI 2. Bullying cultures 3. Super competitive cultures 4. High cost of living 5. Greedy cultures 6. High suicide rate 7. High Depression 8. Toxic working environment 9. Hateful cultures 10. Selfish culture

Such a dynamic and dramatic country indeed

Even with shorter working hours, people want to enjoy their new found freedom.

@tomorrowneverdies567

Ай бұрын

People in our time wouldn't make children even if not working at all.

What people dont understand is that our system is not designed to sustain falling population over long periods of time. Lets take a look at the retirement fund for example. It functions in a way that percentage of working people pay are taken from their earnings and put into retirement fund from which elderly get money. And it works great when there are many more working people than retirees. But what happens when for 1 working person there are 3-4-5 retirees that needs to be funded. The answer is easy, you get unsustainable system and then you can either take money from the economy that was supposed to be used for investments into infrastructure, security, inovations etc. and put it into retirement funds to fund elderly which will greatly weaken the economy over time or you can just not fund the elderly and punish them for making the system that was suposed to fund them unsustainable in the first place.

South Koreans work 3 out of 2 days

Ask the wealthiest 10% of S. Korea and every other country, how many children do they have? Let's do that on television, please 🙏🏽

Everybody is talkong about female's right is key issue on fertility rate. Eventhough it is a factor, it is not the deciding factor. Even if we presume womans right is significantly weeker in korea, that is a quantum leap from 1970s, when birth rate was higher than 3. I do believe one's ecommic prospect plays the most important role here. Back in 1970s, having more child had more economic benefit than cons as families were much larger and childcare burden was low, and children start working much earlier. Which is not the case today. And it can also coherently explain why low income families have higher birthrate than middle income. As they cannot expect better income in the future, they have to get child at younger age when they are more healthy. While middle income family, they can wait for better fostering environment in the future as their courier accumulates. Hencw have child at much higher and less fertile age. The problem of korea is much more accute due to combination of other factors including high real estate, lack of trust on both side of gender, and small number of younger people result in little to no power on voting season.

@cantescape4310

Ай бұрын

Watch Dr Shaym's 50 female privileges video before embarrassing yourself in the comment section

Weird is N.Korea, they don't even have enough food to feed the children but they don't have such crisis. People still get married and have kids. The more prosperity a country gets, the more people will only think about themselves only. Why would I sacrifice my career, my future, my money for kids? People in poor countries "i would sacrifice myself, my future, my life for my kids"

@dudutrutru7548

Ай бұрын

No in poor countries women have no career they are mercy of their partner. Rich countries women got freedom and choice❤

@priyanshipatel1467

Ай бұрын

​@@dudutrutru7548 Exactly.

@antinatalistwitch111

Ай бұрын

*Why would I sacrifice my career, my future, and my money for the government I fixed it for you.

@lornam1142

Ай бұрын

That’s cause they don’t have family planning and most have no future as they live under a brutal dictatorship. NK is also much more forceful with its patriarchal beliefs.

The truth is the mentality needs to change in ways people approve and don't. Yes they need more time off in general, and affordability. But they need to be taught to have kids essentially. The strategy to focus on a kids career/education has kept mutating on itself. Its gotten worst over time. to the point a lot of parents sort of infantalize kids. what the lady said about people waiting for kids isnt unusual. But thats a strategy taught to them. And we see it isn't actually that good at a societal level. most of our parents who did college got married earlier in their careers, or during college. Theres also environmental and biological factors most people don't know about or ignore.

The birth rate is most likely to be maintained or even increased in those countries in which marriages are most egalitarian, least sexist, i.e., men readily do their share of housework and childcare. It is not possible, however, to legislate against the extremely sexist attitudes of South Korean men. Or...maybe the government could deploy a regiment of housework/childcare enforcers with cattle prods. Heh-heh. No, that wouldn't be a good idea.

@mutkaluikkunen3926

Ай бұрын

Vronk. The trend of declining birth rates is visible in the Nordic countries as well, which are very egalitarian.

I mean, the reason is obvious and simple. It sucks to live here. And I'm not a saddhist.

what another ministry going to do

@shafiq_ramli

Ай бұрын

Research a robotic solution maybe 🤷🏻‍♂️

@patrickgz

Ай бұрын

some countries give huge tax breaks for parents with children instead of giving tax break to corporations. the more kids you have, the bigger the tax break, some government pays families with stay home grandparents to reduce costs related to caring for young kids like daycare, travel, etc. some makes it mandatory for companies of certain staff size to provide for day care within the building. there are many ways to ease the burden of parents. it all depends on society and politician priorities

@niclas9990

Ай бұрын

@@patrickgz No one (normal) wants to have kids just for tax breaks. Those tax breaks just make life easier for the people who have already chosen to become parents, they don't encourage people who already hate their lives to add another major hassle.

@patrickgz

Ай бұрын

@@niclas9990No one(normal) wants to work, we work because of 'the carrot' hanging in front of us. National policies should be formulated based on national interest. Of course the option to do nothing about it is still there.

Why media is taking it negatively when population decline..

@kalliskivike

Ай бұрын

cause government has less modern slaves to tax their money. South Korea has 51mil population, my country only has 1.3 mil which is 1% what they have so i always find it funny how they make it seem like all these huge population places will die out quick just cause of decrease of birth rate. Actual small populated countries will die out first not huge ones

@lornam1142

Ай бұрын

Because it can be detrimental for any individual country.

Why? Why not!!!

The problem is capitalism.

It's not because of money, housing, benefits, and all of that. It's simply because this world sux, so why bring children to this earth to suffer?

When the pigs on the farm stop reproducing, it is not the pigs that are worried/concerned. It is the farmers, butchers and businessmen that are worried and concerned.

East Asian countries should embrace immigrants from other Asian counties just like Biden said it was the immigration that makes the USA great.

@tomorrowneverdies567

Ай бұрын

But not only Asia. Africa too. Or is this immigration reserved only for countries with white ex-majorities?

Id create a law for that. "Make babies and you get free money and government support until they become 18". Money will be paid for childs growth and for parent who jobs is to take care of the child. Technically, 50% is for the child, and 50% will go to the parent. That way parent wont have to suffer the financial burden but the government want to slaves parents.

What an inappropriate question from reporter

@bellsofhell

Ай бұрын

Yes..that's the first thing that came to my mind as well

@Flickvids100

Ай бұрын

Maybe it would have been appropriate by the end of the interview as a very quick closing statement, but at the beginning, definitely a poor choice.

@krollpeter

Ай бұрын

Such questions are seen inappropriate in Asia, not in Europe. And she fared pretty well with her answer. I assume they discussed before, if she would mind answering to this.

@firetruckenthusiast8596

Ай бұрын

@@Flickvids100 it’s none of his business to ask even then

@Flickvids100

Ай бұрын

@@firetruckenthusiast8596 I said it could be appropriate. That's for the interviewee to define. If she considers it is not, she can politely decline to answer. Still...it is an intercultural dialogue. Therefore, it is relative. In some countries asking the age of a woman is terribly offensive. In others, it is not.