Alonso and Piastri dodged the biggest bullet in driver market history

@tHebUm18

3 ай бұрын

Poor Pierre. In for the all French play and worse off than RB's B team.

@Lianpe98

3 ай бұрын

Mclaren/Honda was a bigger bullet wasn't it?

@ze-ph9774

3 ай бұрын

@@Lianpe98 To be fair though. The McLaren-Honda partnership was actually good on paper. It's just that both didn't gel well during their time together and both are at fault. In my opinion though, more on McLaren's zero-size concept and some egotistical decisions behind Honda's back like changing the fuel supplier, etc. Both decided to just ditch the project altogether. They knew where the pen stopped. Now, look at where they both are now. Meanwhile, Alpine Renault just doesn't know where to stop or find where the issue is. Every season it's like they don't know where the goalpost is. lmao.

@GamezGuru1

3 ай бұрын

@@tHebUm18 of his own making, no sympathy required.

@menorasendaiba6404

3 ай бұрын

"it's the *EL PLAN* all along" Alonso, probably

I am happy for Piastri that he managed to escape Alpine.

@Vok250

3 ай бұрын

I like Ocon and Gasly though :'(

@Well_be_right_back

3 ай бұрын

Same with Alonso and ricciardo

@RS-kl8hs

3 ай бұрын

He’s a bit of a snake so not sure why you’re so happy for him

@pogotf

3 ай бұрын

@@RS-kl8hstell alpine not to play with people’s careers and contracts. Its their fault for forcing piastri to wait and not having confidence in him

@RS-kl8hs

3 ай бұрын

@@pogotf not really every team juggles their young drivers with no real plan in place until necessity dictates. Piastri is still a snake for his role in it

I feel like Alpine have had more technical leadership restructurings that podiums in the last 3 years

@RaptorV1USA

3 ай бұрын

Truth. Lol.

@TheGabe92

3 ай бұрын

I think it's not just a feeling 😂

@H-Shop

3 ай бұрын

As a matter of fact : Mercedes got a problem with their car, they changed their fucking car. (To take the words of a certain team manager). Alpine would rather change their engineers and managers than fix their issue. Very French if anything.

@luizansounds

3 ай бұрын

The fact they got a win in 2021 is Crazy in hindsight, if they let Cyril they probably would still underperform but since he left they imploded in 4 years

@RACECAR

3 ай бұрын

I'd say that's very accurate.

"It's Evolving, just backwards "

@JohnWiku

3 ай бұрын

That would be called "devolving", sir 😂😂

@Kiwing827

3 ай бұрын

They are french, they like moving backwards.

@NicotineRosberg

3 ай бұрын

I don't understand. Y don't Renault just sell the team. Ever since they came back in the sport as a works outfit they have underperformed. Pull a Jaguar ffs.

@elacme626

3 ай бұрын

@@NicotineRosbergbecause it's got too much history. we need to preserve teams like this even if they are going through a bad period. (Remember Williams last 7-8 years). F1 cannot afford to loose big manufacturers because nobody wants a grid full of kick saubers or visa cash app type of teams.

@nehylen5738

3 ай бұрын

@@NicotineRosberg Because Renault can never be seen as a luxury or sports brand (which are pretty profitable for specialised manufacturers these days), which is why they resurrected Alpine. That and their focus towards EVs. But the name Alpine is barely known outside of the national borders. Alpine is thus trying to promote its name through racing. Considering how little known it is, selling Alpine F1 almost implies abandoning the brand and ambitions that go with it altogether. Plus, the value of having an F1 slot has increased considerably, as the whole Andretti episode shows. Finally, Renault has quite a bit of history with F1, whereas PSA is perceived through its WRC/Le Mans performances.

Haas: we will be last Apline: challenge accepted

@calumbishop7082

3 ай бұрын

Haas actually look ok this year, I would say Sauber, Haas, 'Toro Rosso'/'Alpha Tauri' and Williams all seem to be in the same place performance wise.

@toyotaecw

3 ай бұрын

3:13 Haas .769 (nice) of the pace.

@LipoAkku

3 ай бұрын

Apline

@victorvelasquez6863

3 ай бұрын

They literally swapped places lol

@yt.personal.identification

3 ай бұрын

Next year... why is Alpine a team? ...because Andretti. Wahhhhh.

I remember Cyril Abiteboul saying Redbull would never win with Honda engines, when they deceded to ditch renault

@saldjs65

3 ай бұрын

How competitive will 2026 Redbull Powertrains (RBPT) be? Can they become on par with Honda engines? 🤔

@Lianpe98

3 ай бұрын

​​@@saldjs65Considering Redbull's way of working and the fact that they'll be doing it themeselves, they will get it right, it may take them more than two sesons but they'll eventually get there. If they end up unhappy with Ford and decide to do that themselves too, then it'll definetly take them more seasons or even a whole new cycle of regulations.

@anydaynow01

3 ай бұрын

@@Lianpe98I think Ford is just going to handle the electric side, and this time RB won't have an engine freeze to protect the PU they sand bagged to get the rest of the teams to agree with it. They will need big help for the ICE side or hire an ICE genius and stuff his pockets full of cash like they did on the aero side. Their best bet is have someone like Cosworth come in and work with Ford for a total PU they will label as a Tag or whatever the highest bidder will pay to have it called.

@brianmoncion6723

3 ай бұрын

Yup. Renault always has had problems delivering. Their current ICE is down 20 plus HP from rest of grid

@brianmoncion6723

3 ай бұрын

​@@saldjs65Honda is backing with technology and technicians. Pretty sure RB will be ok

You know what the difference between Renault and HAAS? HAAS is underfunded and under supported, Renault is underperforming and under a rock

@Isanion

3 ай бұрын

This feels true to me, but on paper HAAS is actually at the costcap. Can you explain in what way they're underfunded? Because they've got as much money to work with as everyone else at the cap.

@Kiwing827

3 ай бұрын

@@Isanion Haas spend just under the cost cap for everything (daily operations, car development) other teams are spending right at the cost cap and are spending more on facilities upgrade (new factory, wind tunnel etc) Capital expenditure is recorded under a different set of cost cap

@Lora_Beolab

3 ай бұрын

@@Isanion there are lost of expenses outside of the costcap, mostly it's the facilities were the cars are build

@polycube868

3 ай бұрын

And Renault has the backing of the French government and still suck...Renault should just stick to being an engine supplier, only championships they have is because they bought Schumacher's old team and got Fernando Alonso in his prime, as an engine supplier they dominated the 90's, and with Red Bull dominated until the current regs.

@dillonquigley3218

3 ай бұрын

Gene Haas does not want to spend money to build proper infrastructure like every other team. HAAS F1 team's operation is split into 3 separate bases, the main in the USA, another in the UK and the last in Italy with their partnership with Ferrari. Only RB has multiple locations (One in the UK and the other in Italy) but even then they are moving into the RedBull campus. Proper infrastructure is required for modern formula one and HAAS have the equivalent of a early 2000s setup. Communication is slow between their locations and hence development is slow too. Everything is slow when you have to travel across the world to meet the separate locations. @@Isanion

You know you're in deep trouble when you can't even paint a quarter of the car in order to save weight. Alpine, paint the full car properly, if you're going to be last at least do it in style

@cholatepnabangchang4834

3 ай бұрын

That's what Lando said.

@yt.personal.identification

3 ай бұрын

Many teams started this set of regulations doing exactly that. It isn't new.

@ThatMattWhite

3 ай бұрын

Yeah basically every other team is only barely painting their cars, just enough to be somewhat distinct and include sponsors.

@aslamnurfikri7640

3 ай бұрын

Carbon is the new white

@phightinphil25

3 ай бұрын

To be fair they were one of the least painted non naturally black cars on the grid last season too. I just get the feeling Renault corporate have no interest in the Alpine brand (they have released 1 road car in 5 years. I get they are the sports and niche part of Renault but a car company can't be that slow at releasing models unless they only do exotic hyper cars.) and no knowledge of how to get back to the top in F1.

The irony of the team name being Alpine and them going downhill

@corpsecoder_nw6746

3 ай бұрын

lol

@falconmclenny7284

3 ай бұрын

Noice

If they don’t sort out the situation before summer I can see Renault’s board taking the decision to sell the team once again. I just don’t see them bodering sacking/replacing more names there…

@jamescurrie01

3 ай бұрын

Would love to see them sell to Andretti .

@FreddyMacT

3 ай бұрын

it's sad because I have memories of the great days of Renault... even the 'ok' days were fun. But they're a joke, get out while the iron is hot for F1, as I don't think it will last long term.

@paperplane-db8qf

3 ай бұрын

@@jamescurrie01Andretti can’t even create a top team in Indycar where there are spec cars and you expect them to do something in F1 😂

@hallo0hoi

3 ай бұрын

At some point they are going to run out of people to fire or have resign at this peace

@jamescurrie01

3 ай бұрын

​@@paperplane-db8qf no one is saying they are going to win... would just love to SEE it 😃

Feel bad for Gasly. Thought he was jumping to ship to something better

@phightinphil25

3 ай бұрын

I mean for 1 season it did probably help him, beating an established driver for the team in Ocon at the first time of asking can't have hurt his reputation. Unfortunately having the team devolve the next season can't have been what he was hoping for.

@GAC8

3 ай бұрын

1) he was team mate with cOCkON

@MarkyFormula1

3 ай бұрын

I still believe he made the right choice. Works team vs junior team. He should be better off long term .....

Oscar Piastri bailed out at the right time. Mark Webber was the genius. Maybe he knows best - Renault’s success in the 00s was mostly down to Briatore.

@Kiwing827

3 ай бұрын

Briatore was also Webber and Alonso's manager, i wouldn't be surprise he was pulling the strings and get Webber to look at the contract thoroughly for any loop holes. Afterall, he did get Schumacher out of the Jordan contract.

As an engineer i definitely see red flags of corporate business meddling, which is poison to innovation

@McLarenMercedes

3 ай бұрын

French corporate/state business meddling has historically rarely, if ever, been a successful formula for lasting success.

Piastri had a premonition about that dumpster fire.

@elcactusdelamuerte506

3 ай бұрын

Not really sure if you’re predicting the future when the place has been a dumpster fire since their last world titles

@stillious

3 ай бұрын

*Coulthard

@3rdGenGuy

3 ай бұрын

one should always bet against French people. when has France ever done anything good without exploding long term?

@timaz1066

3 ай бұрын

I think Weber had the premonition.

@DJA1599

3 ай бұрын

All thanks to Weber, I'd say.

Alain Prost warned Luca de Mao that Laurent Rossi was inexperienced and arrogant and that would destroy the team, and Prost got sacked by Rossi. He's out there laughing his head off now.

How does a team go from 4th fastest to dead last in 2 years

@m_cabral

3 ай бұрын

Chase away all the good people. Fire whoever doesn’t leave. Frustrate the middling. Promote the poor performers (I.e. their senior leadership) into the positions at the top.

@0megalul309

3 ай бұрын

alonso and prost leaving.

@elcactusdelamuerte506

3 ай бұрын

Ask renault who went from 1st to 8th within two years 💀

@teabagtowers3823

3 ай бұрын

When you have CEO who was as incompetent deluded and off-putting as Laurent Rossi it tends to not help results.

@marcmillis3867

3 ай бұрын

Hire clowns like ocon & gasly instead of Alonso & piastry.

I take issue with "descending" and "again." The team is in chaos perpetually.

@elcactusdelamuerte506

3 ай бұрын

Exactly it’s been a shit show since their return, hell most people would probably agree it goes back as far as the season after their last titles as it takes a special kind of talent to go from winning the constructors to not even picking up one quarter of the champions points the following year.

@GloomGaiGar

3 ай бұрын

as expected of the French

Kinda crazy how the graph at 6:16 is almost perfectly symmetrical 💀

@Mrcento

3 ай бұрын

And kinda funny when you realise that the left side was the start of the '5 year plan to win', and the right side is lower than where they started 🤣

Locked out the back row is crazy

@jreal54

3 ай бұрын

Lol. You heard that too? Like they "accomplished" something.

@emmanuel.gyapong

3 ай бұрын

The comment I was looking for. Had me screaming😂😂😂.

A fully manufacturer works team qualifying in the last row is just a disgrace, never would i thought that i would want Flavio Briatore to manage the team might actually work. Renault should just sell the Enstone team to Andretti and just remain as an engine supplier, this way all resources within Renault can be focused on the Power unit.

@riccardolodi4456

3 ай бұрын

The problem is that no one would want a worse, heavier, slower and more overheating PU, and Andretti has General Motors

@paperplane-db8qf

3 ай бұрын

Like as if Andretti would be any better. Renault was pretty competitive 1-2 years ago but firing Cyril and Otmar screwed it over.

@riccardolodi4456

3 ай бұрын

@@paperplane-db8qf at least they have a team that is still together and not falling apart

@stevenmoran4060

3 ай бұрын

Renaults should remember that they used to make the engine every team wanted. They powered Red Bull to titles easily then, when the current turbo era came in they were just way off the pace. Odd really seeing as Renault were the first team ever to use turbo power in F1 with Renee Arnoux.

@09csr

3 ай бұрын

​@@stevenmoran4060Not necessarily, remember that while Renault started with turbos, but Honda was the ones to perfect them. Renault found most success in N/A-era F1, with Williams, Benetton, Renault works and Red Bull.

Prost was pretty harsh with de Meo and Rossi, for the sudden moves in the previous year.

@patepulkkinenvtec2403

3 ай бұрын

But The Professor was right, as usual. You don't sack a motorsport genius like him and then wonder why you end up having the worst car on thr grid.

Safe to say that Alonso, Ricciardo, Piastri & Prost, (don’t remember if he left or was “dismissed”) made the right choice to abandon the Renault/Alpine ship.

@JMurph2015

3 ай бұрын

Don't forget Sainz too.

@andresmartinezramos7513

3 ай бұрын

​@@JMurph2015Sainz?

@RACECAR

3 ай бұрын

@@JMurph2015 I'd argue the lure of Driving for Ferrari was the main reason for his departure, he also happens to be lucky that Ferrari's current bad form is not Alpine's current bad form.

@JMurph2015

3 ай бұрын

@@RACECAR I'm pretty sure Sainz went to McLaren after Renault. Then he went to Ferrari after that.

It's surreal that ten, twenty years ago if you told the mid-grid/backmarker teams they'd be about a second a lap off of the front they'd probably be happy. Thirty years ago and they'd be absolutely delighted by that news. Now it's dead last.

I want to know what Alpine were giving all the celebrity investors to drink. Must have been bloody strong stuff.

@nchmusic99

3 ай бұрын

I'm sure is anything but Red Bull drink

If I was Renault I’d be asking Andretti if they fancy taking over the running of the team, ProDrive style

Let me get this straight: 1) down on power; 2) down on front mech grip; 3) down on rear mech grip; 4) down on front downforce; 5) down on rear downforce; 6) significantly overweight. Did I miss anything?

@nchmusic99

3 ай бұрын

Nah , you missed the down on everything part

@phightinphil25

3 ай бұрын

It might be faster turned off and left to roll down a hill 🤣

@nchmusic99

3 ай бұрын

@phightinphil25 he should have added, increase in unreliability, increase in tyre wear , significantly increase in car size

@TassieLorenzo

3 ай бұрын

7) Lost potential Alonso/Piastri driver lineup.

@phightinphil25

3 ай бұрын

@@TassieLorenzo That was never an option they were considering for some reason. That makes far too much sense for those running Alpine. A young star and a veteran star is pretty much what every team wants.

Thumbs up for THE RACE for its quality content amidst a sea of click-baiting, content-lacking competitors.

Oscar Piastri had a lucky escape.

I don't have any insider info but I would put the focus on the Renault executive team. They seem like corporate types that think the way to motivate the team is by inventing a plan and then making people agree to aggressive "targets" that they must hit even if they are not possible given the constraints. This is how you end up with corporate fraud, cooked books or the VW scandal. In F1 you can't just lie about your results so there must be a lot of pressure when your boss has unrealistic goals and your job is on the line.

Explantation : It's a French company, where there is like 10 manager for 1 dude, there never agree with each other AND they must work with Enstone in UK. BTW i'm french 😆

@EK4B16A2

3 ай бұрын

100%. Terrible culture environment if you are after performance and efficiency.

@phightinphil25

3 ай бұрын

@@EK4B16A2 They should move the Chassis and car development team to France at least then both teams can understand why the other part is having difficulties more easily.

@EK4B16A2

3 ай бұрын

@@phightinphil25 meh. If that would be the case, now both teams would be taking 7 weeks off per year and would become allergic to overtime.

@phightinphil25

3 ай бұрын

@@EK4B16A2 Yes but that would be allowed for and built into the schedule. Secondarily why shouldn't they get 8 weeks off per year and not want to work overtime ? I didn't know you were the second leading stock holder at Renault after the French government.

@EK4B16A2

3 ай бұрын

@@phightinphil25 they can, but then you are last. That's all. It's all matter of setting your priorities straight. You can see it at a broader level too. If you see the French economy vs a competitive country (US, Japan, Singapur, you name it). They will fall behind year by year until they are not a contender anymore.

Just sell the team to Andretti. He'll actually put the care and attention to the team that Renault refuses to do

@woody5109

3 ай бұрын

Andretti wouldn’t know how to turn a car in both directions, then all that shifting 😂

@MV1-OP81-Mclaren

3 ай бұрын

​@@woody5109 Guess someone has never seen Indy car racing before 🙄

@matej6357

3 ай бұрын

F1: we can't let Andretti in, it would make our sport and our organization look bad. Sauber, VCARB, Haas, Alpine, Christian Horner: HOLD OUR BEERS!!!!

@niktoi867

3 ай бұрын

y'all need to stop with andretti , nothing proves that they would be doing a better job than any other team, same for audi , they're coming soon , but people say that they might not be a front runner from the begining, even tho they have the money and structure.

@KuchingKingVideoGamer

3 ай бұрын

​@@MV1-OP81-MclarenAndretti at Indycar wasn't that great 😂

It’s a shame because they have two fantastic drivers.

Just 1 race done in 2024, and Im allready popping popcorn ready for "drive to survive" season 7. So much drama

Crazy how the renault v6 PU has been underpowered since 2014 and they haven’t been able to catch up 10 years later

@purplestrawberrysunset

3 ай бұрын

Wasn't it one of the strongest engines a while ago but also unreliable?

@junsengjs

3 ай бұрын

And Honda came in in 2016 with a worse engine but ultimately delivered what is probably an engine on par if not better than the Mercedes engine, while Renault is still behind.

Andretti: "Let us in." F1: "No, you'll be uncompetitive and struggle technically." Alpine: *A Works team in last place* Andretti: Bruh

Tbh I don’t feel bad for any of them except Gasly. Drove for AT while they were pretty much dead last, moved to alpine for a much better 4th place drive, only to end up dead last again. And to rub salt in the wound RB look like they might be near the top of the midfield. Sad for him.

@phightinphil25

3 ай бұрын

He needs some sort of miracle and to for Horner to get amnesia and replace Checo with himself and then prove the last time was due to the car being not perfected and his own lack of experience.

Piastri dodged such a huge bullet with leaving this team when he did!😬😬😬😬

I think Renault's commitment to F1 disintegrated when they changed the name of the team to Alpine in 2021, a clear sign that a car manufacturer is hedging its bets, which in the real world means it is no longer a priority and is likely to fail due to lack of funding. The fact that so many senior people have left in recent years simply corroborates that. Nobody can doubt Renault's commitment to the sport over the years, but I think that's likely to be only as a power unit supplier going forward.

@hans-joachim-klaus1087

3 ай бұрын

i think so, too. One of my first thoughts in 2021.

Um...Andretti-Cadillac, anyone? They STILL don’t deserve a go? Oh, right…money!

@Ceece20

3 ай бұрын

Even more: “it’s an American team that actually wants to compete. We just want a token American team that doesn’t actually mean anything.” Typical European elitism.

1:36 They surely knew !! Look at their faces 😂

9:08 el plan😂

The inserts of the animated game-like trackside visuals are subtle

The cars apparently don't run good on turmoil..

The Renualt engine has been the slowest for years

I had a feeling something was up when Renault took their name off it

Its going wrong because the board either fire good people or good people leave.

I have been waiting for this!!

3:14 Why is the Qualy 2 the metric used for a graph that is titled Gran Prix pace? GP Pace surely must be either the best racing lap or average pace of the best car in each team, i.e. maximised data for that car under race conditions. Picking a qualy 2 time where there is no incentive to be the fastest makes no sense, you just have to be in the top 10. I'd argue average race pace is the better metric because that is what wins races, fastest lap is largely meaningless, HASS used to provide spectacular single lap pace, but it's still a rubbish race car. Ferrari didn't win the GP, it didn't get the best lap in the race, so it can't have the best pace.

Stages of Renault misses. 1. Cyril TP 2. Fred Vasseur leaves - should have been TP 3. Not keeping Sainz - there was a good balance with Hulk and Sainz 4. Signing Ric - valuable money for car dev. lost 5. Dropping Hulk - Matched Ric and fired because he wasnt French 6. Signing Ocon - Cost them Alonso aswell 7. Not firing Cyril fast enough 8. Not giving Alonso or Piastri a contract 9. Not giving Otmar enough time. 10. They want to make it french. No one wants that.

@Syphr54

3 ай бұрын

It should be obvious national teams don’t work. Just look at Ferrari for example, ever since they switched back to an all Italian team behind the scenes, they have not won a single championship. Now that Vasseur is TP, we all see some stuff improving and Ferrari getting competitive.

@ChloroFluoroHexane

3 ай бұрын

Cyril had a lot of constraints to deal with, there's a french interview where he talks about it. Not everything that happened to Renault back in the days is Cyril's fault

@TassieLorenzo

3 ай бұрын

What's wrong with Cyril as TP? It was unwise to waste $20m p/a on Ricciardo, but Ferrari will be wasting $100m p/a on Hamilton so it's not out of the ordinary. The inability to have a budget to match or exceed Red Bull, Ferrari or Mercedes and invest heavily in facilities while it was still unrestricted, was out of Abiteboul's hands. If Renault Sport F1's budget wasn't so limited compared to top teams, then $20m here or there for Ricciardo wouldn't matter. Renault never brought the attitude to win at any cost like Mercedes - neither on the power unit nor on the chassis!

Has some have said, sell to Andretti....

@yt.personal.identification

3 ай бұрын

Why? Feelings? Last week it was Haas. Just stop hating every team because F1 doesn't want more privateers.

Hate to see them struggle. Hope it gets better.

Great analysis. This ebb and flow is part of sport. It's super-competitive all teams are up against it. They're likely to crack it, as others in the same plight have done before...

Whoever is in charge of your background music for all these videos, please make a playlist!

3:15 the fact that Williams is 1.1% off and for reference in Singapore last year Red Bull were almost that far off shows that ironically, bringing everyone closer in pace means no one has enough of an advantage to actually overtake or suddenly spring a surprise. If a team starts a year strongly it's done. The drivers are also incredibly almost robotic, metronomic in their driving. So we can forget the good old days (2003-2013) coming back.

Alpine is now renamed to Deadpool F1

Wouldn't it only help if they moved both engine and chasis departments to the same location? They've tried it separate for years now to little success. With a cost cap in place, it seems this separation would hurt them even more.

@elcactusdelamuerte506

3 ай бұрын

Engine development is paused bar reliability upgrades, so not much is gonna change it will remain underfunded, underpowered and unable to be adapted to better suit the car

@jeffbain1969

3 ай бұрын

Merc have the same set up

@09csr

3 ай бұрын

It could, but it would be expensive, and as long as communication is good base of engine and chassis shouldn't matter, it's not a suitable excuse IMO. Remember: Honda developed the current RB units in Sakura, Japan. And Mercedes built their engines in Brixworth, not Brackley like the rest of the car.

To be noted: It's the British side of Alpine's leadership that resigned amidst strong friction between the French and British side of the team.

@phightinphil25

3 ай бұрын

That's not surprising, they should move out of Enstone to avoid the cultural problems it might not make the car faster but it would help with understanding and communication.

I hope that Gastly and Ocon both have opportunities to shine, this year. They both deserve a better car.

The ONLY way that this team can be turned around is it Bruno Famin is the greatest team principle ever. And judging by the fact that he has no control over the situation since Otmar left, this is gonna end badly for Pierre and Esteban and the entire Enstone team.

Main problem is on board side methinks. Sell the controlling portion to andretti with a caveat on first option in future, Pull out on engine side to free them up to use honda :)

It seems that Alpine is not a competitive participant. One could even question if F1 brings value to the Alpine brand rather than the other way around 🤔

“Locked out the back row” 😭

Anyone who has experienced French corporate culture probably has a strong suspicion what the root problem actually is

Since the car technically has no livery, paint it to 2016 Manor colors so Ocon can have a trip down the memory lane

At this rate, just demote it to F3 👀

3:30 "The positive is that everyone is pushing [their resignations]." | Bruno Famin Alpine team principal 🤣

And yet in the WEC's Qatar 1812km, Alpine didn't get off to a bad start with their brand new A424. Mind you, using someone else's chassis and engine and having your works outfit run by Signatech probably helps 😆.

Alpine qualified worst, but if you look at the lap times of last year, their time would have beaten everyone in Q1. Just shows the amount of improvement the whole grid gets

@PlaySA

3 ай бұрын

Interesting point.

Alpine :"We stand with the farmers of France. They were the inspiration for this years car"

Locked out the back row. Ouch.

with mr Wheater back in aero from his 3rd rate showing at Williams , renault is well and truly stuffed

Imagine having an opinion about the video before you even 1 minute of tge video, comments are wild

Weird seeing this have no views

Just sell it to Andretti

@paperplane-db8qf

3 ай бұрын

Andretti should be competitive in Indycar before its fanboys think it’ll do anything worthwhile in F1.

@TheAshleyYoyo

3 ай бұрын

What’s he gonna bring that Renault already haven’t

@derbigpr500

3 ай бұрын

Why, you want their cars to be 5 seconds per lap slower instead of 1 second?

@yt.personal.identification

3 ай бұрын

Not another privateer buying parts. Just no. F1 are in talks with real full factory works teams. Why didn't Chev commit properly?

@ElGuatequero

3 ай бұрын

@@yt.personal.identification wtf are you talking about, Andretti is fully backed up by General Motors, you should do some research before open your mouth.

When you look at De Beers previous cars - you wouldn’t employ this man in this role.

This was the one time Alonso made a smart career move since his championship years with old renault, and it proves if even he can spot this catastrophe from a mile away, then it will surely be a categorical catastrophe when it does inevitably go bang.

Maurizio Arrivabene is their best option if available, he was one of the bosses who brought improvement to Ferrari

If Andretti isn’t being allowed to start, why is alpine being allowed to stay?

@yt.personal.identification

3 ай бұрын

They are an F1 team. Andretti isn't. It really isn't complicated.

@yt.personal.identification

3 ай бұрын

Why didn't Chev commit? They likely would have been successful. F1 doesn't need another privateer buying parts - they are in talks with Porsche and Audi looking for full works teams to add more suppliers - not add privateers. This was huge news. How do F1 fans not know that they want factory teams, not privateers?

this is why they are now called alpine, bearing renaults real name would be bad for their image.

One race in and everything is suddenly upside down almost everywhere 😮

All-Pain..

i didnt expect alpine to go backwards this year..

What on earth is going on with that rear suspension? That's the first time I've seen it, and I can't imagine how that works. The forces that act on it have to be terribly out of balance, and the natural inherent movements can't be in sync (suspensions have inherent tendencies based on their geometry). Hopefully, it's just the angle the photo was taken from, but if not... this is going to be a long season and off-season due to a potentially expensive rework and lost time.

The endless cycle. If it wasn’t for the engine they bring to the grid (which no one else wants/uses) what is the point of this team

There’s some interesting data in these charts 3:11 It’s been a long time since Ferrari were at the top of the comparison charts.💯 4:17 You’d expect greater performance gains from the lesser teams, but McLaren are shown with MASSIVE improvement over a fairly advanced standing beginning the end of 2023.

Title is exactly my thoughts: here we go again! 🤣

Do the Benetton famiy still have any money? Does anyone think that they may want it back?

Was there lap time faster last year?

4:20 McLaren with a 1.7 second improvement, 5 tenths more than the 2nd most improved, and still only p7. As a McLaren fan I’m glad they’re improving but I forgot how much they sucked at Bahrain last year. I really hope they improve a lot throughout the season like last year. If they improve as much as they did last year, maybe they can catch Red Bull towards the end of the season.

This season gonna be on fire 🔥🔥🔥 literally.

Not to pile on, but the livery also looks terrible. Looks like an expansion team that someone created in a game.

Otmar chuckling over a glass of white wine.

@notliquid1448

3 ай бұрын

? This car is literally the product of his leadership just like last year's Ferrari was the product of Binotto's leadership, wtf are you on about?

Squarely on the TPl

Give Gasley’s seat to Deadpool. He’ll get the desired results!

This team's problem has always been at the ownership level, which is the worst possible reality for Alpine fans such as myself

Sounds like they need a massive leadership overhaul

I wonder how many races left for their “race win in 100 gp plan”

Constant improvement is something that ALL teams do. It Formula One for heaven's sake! Alpine needs regular, large improvements, which is very hard to do.

its insane to me that 22 pounds / 10kg can result in nearly half a second. that's literally just a short diet and your in your Q1 for a lot of the drivers

@TassieLorenzo

3 ай бұрын

Driver weight allowance is a separate 80kg. You will only be penalised now for being over 80kg. Previously it was 75kg which was difficult for some of the taller drivers like Ocon to meet.

Ha! I knew they were gone before the race, so why say they only got a notice after the race