the greatest trick woolie ever pulled was convincing us pat was the odd one.

@eltharion55

Жыл бұрын

It all depends on if your comparing Woolie to Pat or to a normal person.

@gameb9oy

Жыл бұрын

You’re not wrong, but you’re also acting like it was hard to pull off

@edavidbruce

Жыл бұрын

I think it’s because Pat’s “weirdness” is more common. FOMO from Consumable items, I’ve had those before. That sandwich debate with Paige? Kind of arguable. But the controller D-pad/mouse shit? I’ve only seen that replicated ONCE on the funhaus Omikron LP.

@GrieveIV

Жыл бұрын

@@edavidbruce I’m so glad someone else has watched that Lp

@GrieveIV

Жыл бұрын

In this case, saying Woolie is going out of order ME wise, yea Pat is absolutely being insane. At the end of the day, he’s still going 1,2, and 3

I think Woolie would be less perplexing to Pat if they had stuck with the same shephard and just passed the controller back and forth more organically. The way he's made it specifically *structured* like its some master plan is what makes him come across as unhinged.

My God... for years we thought Pat was the insane one while Woolie was the sane one. Turns out they are both insane.

@TalkingVidya

Жыл бұрын

Like people have said: Pat's insanity is many shallow puddles, Woolie's insanity is one gigantic well

@alanguillermo3145

Жыл бұрын

How else could he be friends with Pat and Paige?

@danewardlocke9014

Жыл бұрын

Pat's the one who knows that he's crazy, while Woolie is fully convinced that he's completely sane.

@NeoBluereaper

Жыл бұрын

How? Pat you know he is being sarcastic 90% of the time. Woolie you WISH he was being sarcastic 90% of the time.

@SteelBallRun1890

Жыл бұрын

@@NeoBluereaper You haven't watched Pat enough if you think he's being sarcastic 90% of the time.

"How does the character switch work?" "Why the switch? Well, it's not that complicated..." "No, I said *how*." "Yeah, got it. The reason why is..." "H - O -..." "W - H -...?"

@NekoKujo6785

Жыл бұрын

THIS IS SO ON POINT. HOLY FUCK, MAN.

@Ultimaniacx4

Жыл бұрын

Woolie prepared so much for this argument that he's completely unprepared when someone doesn't bring him that argument and just asks a different question.

@groove1800

Жыл бұрын

Honestly I'm with Woolie on this he's just having fun with the game and choices. On launch I had the mindset of Pat, just being committed to the one track of Space Jesus paragon. On replays I'm more Paragade. Since Woolie shared a character with Reggie it was a different way to play Paragade through the series. It's kinda a weird fun way to develop shepherd

Man Woolie is gonna gaslight Reggie so hard in the LP, it's already been happened with Liara on Mars. I'm very interested to see this progression of Woolie going from "People wanted Red to return" to "You did that Reggie, it was You."

@mattrondeau2

Жыл бұрын

You're a fucking prophet. That is exactly what's going on

the reason Red has returned is that "somehow, Red has returned"

@UnlimitedBick

Жыл бұрын

and he flies now

@ziggyhudson7964

Жыл бұрын

@@UnlimitedBick he flies now?

@MLPAbraxas1

Жыл бұрын

@@EmptyDisc1 he still flies

@How_Do_I_Set_a_Username

Жыл бұрын

He's pretty fly for a Red guy

Why does it feel like Pat is constantly forgetting that even in ME1 it’s established that the Reaper’s harvest takes literal centuries to COMPLETELY wipe out everything.

@DemonFireRain

Жыл бұрын

Woolie overcomplicates things and Pat reduces things to laughable arguments with no nuance. These are their curses.

@SaberRexZealot

Жыл бұрын

Really? They were working pretty fast in ME3 lol

@davidstinger1134

Жыл бұрын

@@SaberRexZealot They were working fast when it comes to spreading through the galaxy, but actually ensuring trillions of people are dead is not so fast.

I really think the moments of levity in 3 are needed because it’s almost constant dire situation. Shepard does not feel comfortable with taking time off, they constantly remark how they shouldn’t be doing this when there’s a war going on. But you NEED to rest and try to relax during stressful times or you’re gonna go insane. Shepard has already gone through 2 years of world saving that they deserve these moments of rest.

@TheBackwardsLegsMan

Жыл бұрын

A well written story will have those moments of levity in such a way that it doesn't feel jarring. I constantly see people point this out in all kinds of fiction, and it irritates me. You're right that from a pacing perspective you NEED these moments of levity. Both narratively and to give the player a break from the constant tension. The solution is to structure your story in such a way that it feels natural to take those breaks. Ham fisting them in because those moments have to exist is called bad writing; it's the pacing equivalent of realizing you made your antagonist too strong and using a deus ex machina to resolve the plot. Clearly we NEED the protagonist to succeed, so I guess we just break the plot to allow it. Don't get me wrong, it's not jarring enough to ruin the game or anything, but it does kick you out of you suspension of disbelief sometimes, and I've seen this exact problem addressed in a lot of fiction. Hell, this very game does it with the Citadel DLC with a simple throw-away line about how the Normandy is getting the hell beaten out of it and they need to perform maintenance.

This makes all the sense, Reggie is doing the main plot and Woolie did the beach episode.

@paragonrobbie9270

Жыл бұрын

Except in this case the beach episode is considered the best episode in the series.

@SteelBallRun1890

Жыл бұрын

@@paragonrobbie9270 It's also like, their actions in the beach episode is what brings the main threat to the main plot lol.

@Shadest

Жыл бұрын

@@SteelBallRun1890 persona 3

TL;DW: Because we needed to correct the timeline.

"Woolie wanted Red Shepard in ME1, Blue in ME2, Red again in ME3 but Blue for Citadel with full save files for each and multiple mods." Asuna blink twice if Woolie has you strapped to a chair doing all this for him we can help you.

@eric_clover

Жыл бұрын

@@mongooseunleashed You have commented this multiple times across videos. Why are you even here? Do you watch things out of anger?

@jadedragon216

Жыл бұрын

I still don't quite understand what he's doing but I hopped off the ME2 LP really early. I didn't like that we were no longer following Reggie and Red's Insanity and legitimately confused with what Woolie was doing with all the mods instead of just playing the game. I always thought being a tester screwed up how Woolie approaches games, but Reggie was one too and he's normal.

@kapkant6197

Жыл бұрын

@@jadedragon216 I assume it's a combination of Asuna recommending him some quality of life fixes since she's the expert and him recognising his weakness at third person shooters and asking her to make him an OP class mod while she's gathering all these fan patches, allowing him to circumvent playing a genre he doesn't feel too comfortable in.

@RaptorPegasus

Жыл бұрын

@@mongooseunleashed you have 366 comments on this channel

@paragonrobbie9270

Жыл бұрын

Woolie cannot play RPGs without the ability to tag in other characters like it's UMVC3.

We all know why: to see what kind of wack-ass decisions Reggie will make

@kaisersaucy6503

Жыл бұрын

so why didnt he just let Reggie play the whole thing? Because he wanted to play too? So why is he giving up his play spot for ME3? Because fan outcry so he can get more views matters more than what he actually wants? So it loops back into the simplest question, why didnt he just let Reggie play the whole thing? If he really wanted to not miss out he would just play ME2 and ME3 offscreen on his own time. Oh, right, because Woolie has this stupid thing where he only wants to play a game once and never again while also having this goblin of needing to never miss crap, so Reggie playing somehow counts as him already playing the game for some reason.

@6187490

Жыл бұрын

@@kaisersaucy6503 Another LP ruined by Woolie's insecurities of needing to be the main attraction

@TheBKdynasty

Жыл бұрын

@@kaisersaucy6503 Woolie will say “it’s your choice” to Reggie while also REALLY trying to play vicariously through him. Case and point being the newest stream where Woolie tried super hard to get Reggie to break up with liara. This is such a weird way to tackle the series they’re both gonna have a warped view by the end.

@garrettcarter5622

Жыл бұрын

"I side with the Quarians to destroy the Geth. WHAT DO YOU MEAN that means I destroy the Geth?! How was I supposed to know?"

@mechaswool

Жыл бұрын

@@garrettcarter5622 Or worse, they choose to upload the Reaper code and not meet the requirements to broker peace, then they freak out

14:23 I love how Woolie goes "There's no 3, 4, 5 levels" and Pat basically goes "OK but where are the levels tho? Because I know you put in levels."

@jjrambles683

Жыл бұрын

And then Woolie literal explains how there's like 7 layers to how this bullshit works

@23kurtzy

Жыл бұрын

Theres no 3, 4, 5 levels of complexity to it. Proceeds to spend the next 15 minutes having to explain his non complicated system to a person going, “What are you talking about?”

Somehow Red Shepard returned.

It infuriates me to no end that pat doesn't understand why reapers need foot soldiers.

@piercingmoon24

Жыл бұрын

I assume it's because you still need ground forces to take care of the stragglers in their little hidey-holes. Like how you need infantry to clear out the trenches after you've bombed it to shit.

@conelybiscuit4985

Жыл бұрын

to be fair most previous Reaper cycles seemingly *did* just go "rock up to planet > glass it > move on" from what i recall. it's implied from planet descriptions they basically found some way to cut the gordian knot and handle it with maximum economy of effort every time, doing things like obliterating all biospheres in a given system and just waiting for any dug-in survivors to suffocate or starve. it's basically only the Protheans and current cycle that were too resilient and widespread and necessitated actual ground warfare.

@ODST_Parker

Жыл бұрын

Literally for the same reason he states the opposite, actually. "The Reapers are thousand foot spaceships!" Yeah, so how could they possibly interact with the galaxy aside from stomping it underfoot? They needed Saren and the geth the open the relays, they needed the collectors to harvest humanity pre-invasion, and now they need infantry and other units to dig out all resistance across the galaxy. I actually LOVE how you see different species become Reaper troops over the course of the game. The first you see is cannibals and husks, because obviously humans and batarians are plentiful in the early stages of the invasion. As you come to aid the turians, you start seeing marauders and brutes. When the invasion finally comes to Thessia, you see the asari as banshees. It's fucking awesome, and I love that sense of progression.

@paragonrobbie9270

Жыл бұрын

I think he just sorta forgot that the reapers aren't really here to destroy all organic life, they're here to harvest all sapient life. It's hard to blend up bodies into bio-smoothies when you don't even have hands.

@zztzgza

Жыл бұрын

Reapers can glass entire states. They don't really need foot soldiers. The prothean party member was able to effectively hide in stasis from the reaper foot soldiers.

"I'm gonna watch Lord of the Rings. First the theatrical cut of Fellowship of the Ring, then the extended cut of The Two Towers, then the Rankin Bass animated Return of the King."

@paragonrobbie9270

Жыл бұрын

That's honestly one of the best explanations I've seen about why this is so annoying. It *IS* in chronological order, but Woolie's "evil for the sake of evil" Shepard and Reggie's "puckish rogue but also pretty evil" Shepard are so different that in the overall story of the playthrough Shepard had 2 sex changes and the most extreme case of bipolar disorder ever documented.

"You start with part 3 because that's when Stands are introduced then you go to part 6 because Joylene is Jotaro's daughter. Then because Pucci's motivations are tied to Dio you watch part 1. Then because Giorno is Dio and Johnathan's son you watch 5. By then you might wonder "What's the deal with that short dude that was at the beginning of 5 that left immediately" well he's from part 4 so that's your next stop. With the end of 4, you will have seen all of Joseph's life, and only then will you be prepared to see the beginning of his bizarre adventure and that's when you should watch part 2. This was Araki's true intent."

@wumbojet

Жыл бұрын

What's more baffling about that watch order to me is that Mother's Basement does really good analytical content, just for some unholy, eldritch reason his neurons came up with the worst, most cursed way to experience a story. My only guess is that "cinematic universe" mentality made people wonder if you could do a whack ass order for any anthology series and didn't stop to think if you should.

@zaneseibert

Жыл бұрын

@@wumbojet I wasn't even referencing that I was just making the most insane version I could come up with. What did he come up with.

@wumbojet

Жыл бұрын

@@zaneseibert not that more different, but mixing reading and watching because the order was done years ago and if I remember correctly, watching part one last before 7 and 8 because that's "the origin", while giving little to no commentary on part 8 because he had clearly not read it. I repeat, i really like his content, it's only more baffling for that reason.

@GreekJR2

Жыл бұрын

@@wumbojet Ok, he didn't say you should do that. He just came up with a weird watch order. And JoJo is kind of tailor made to skip around. It's about getting people into JoJo when the first 3 parts have a lot of moments that can make newcomers bounce off.

@wumbojet

Жыл бұрын

@@GreekJR2 Jojo is absurdly self-referential, you would be fucking lost if you start to skip around parts. Part 6 is fucking nonsense if you haven't watched part 1 and 3, part 4 is kind of confusing without parts 2 and 3 for context, part 5 is just horrible without the narrative tie-ins to parts 1, 3 and 4, part 2 has like half of its cast's motivations directly linked to part 1, part 7 loses almost all of its narrative deconstruction without all the first 6 parts and part 8 is a reimagining of part 4 where the mayor characters are completely different. It's just not worth skipping around, it makes the story remarkably worse, and honestly speaking, if people bounce out of the first few parts maybe they wouldn't enjoy that insanely long series in the first place.

For me, seeing Woolie and Reggie riff off of the interesting characters and having conversations about dilemmas is what's most interesting. I've gone through all the games a bunch of times so I don't watch for the game or the choices; I watch for the people playing the game. While this isn't Woolie's reason, I do think that going Red-Blue-Red is unintentionally more engaging because they both have to suffer from the consequences of the other which in turn gives more material they can riff off of. If you watch to see one person go through the games then I can totally understand why people are upset though.

@lweaver2988

Жыл бұрын

That 10 minute discussion on whether Red would choose Best Girl or not despite only being like 3 hrs into the game, was gold.

@ElSuperNova23

Жыл бұрын

100%, I've played this series through enough times making the 'right/perfect' choices that it's more entertaining to see some absolute wack shit.

@GELTONZ

Жыл бұрын

I dunno if that reminds me more of Maze: Megaburst Space or Cinderella Boy...

@Serahpin

Жыл бұрын

If I wanted a no-talk lets play, I wouldn't be watching Best Friends Play.

@tommeramabama

Жыл бұрын

I'm Commander Shepard and this is my favorite comment in the feed.

Now I really want Woolie and Reggie to play the Dragon Age games once they're done with Mass Effect

@OrcintheBasement

Жыл бұрын

Right. At least origins and inquisition

@Drago5899

Жыл бұрын

@@OrcintheBasement I doubt Woolie would ever play inquisition. It's they opposite of everything he likes in a game. Although, if this "LP" is any indication he will just force Reggie to play it. Also, playing inquisition without paying 2 would make no sense as both the main conflict and primary villain are both introduced in that game.

@solidswat2041

Жыл бұрын

@@Drago5899 I only ever played Inquisition and it was fun and understandable enough for me.

@OrcintheBasement

Жыл бұрын

@@Drago5899 true but origins and inquisition are my favorites lol so if he plays them, those are the two I wanna see

@nicolasawad4193

Жыл бұрын

Jade Empire is what I want. I feel like Woolie would both enjoy and over-analyze the Open Fist and Closed Path choices.

"I did what I thought would be hype." Words to live by honestly.

@WeCareAlot4693

Жыл бұрын

Lies to live by.

He must do things THE WOOLIE WAY. Because it's THE WOOLIE WAY for Woolie.

@ratking1608

Жыл бұрын

"This weird fucked up hybrid that nobody has intended ever" but instead of controllers it's protagonists

@1985hz

Жыл бұрын

Woolie doesn't do what Woolie does for Woolie. Woolie does what Woolie does because Woolie is Woolie!

@RocRolDis

Жыл бұрын

I'm waiting for them to get hip deep into 3 and realize that swapping wiped out side quest data so that everything sucks.

Pat is forgetting some things here. Dialogue changes depending on which "vibe" you prefer in DA2. So if you pick mostly sarcastic options, you will express a more sarcastic guy overall.

@halfbloodhacker

Жыл бұрын

That's pretty much my favorite part of DA2, and that your personality can actually affect whether you fail or pass some dialogue choices. It's a lot more voice actor recording but it would be so fun if they added it back in to a future game, adds a lot of replay value.

Just remember Woolie. You wanted this. So don't get too pissy as we go on and everyone yells at you.

I love the idea of the character switch because you could easily make Red be in a coma for ME2 so he's confused by the [LATER THING], any of the plotholes that make no sense and the disassociative character choices be the result of that happening offscreen for him. The worst part of this is Woolie not having the courage to deal with his poorly thought out Genophage decision. Ruined Reggie's playthough over a single line of dialogue because "content right?" and we all know he'll try to pull the "REGGIE! WHAT DID YOU DO?!" as he cackles until he realizes the true consequences.

The analogy shouldn't be that Woolie is playing the games out of order, the analogy should be that Woolie and Reggie watched 1/3 of Fullmetal Alchemist Brotherhood, then one of them saying they want to watch Fullmetal Alchemist but they already watched the first 1/3 beforehand so they'll just start at the 2/3 mark and then before they're done that series, just deciding that they can go back to Brotherhood and watch only the last third because it will all make sense. After all, they're just watching FMA, why is Pat making this so complicated?

@miguelnewmexico8641

Жыл бұрын

that analogy still has some holes in it, but it's certainly the closest thing i've seen. it's certainly helped me understand where you guys are coming from more than whatever the hell those other 2 are trying to say.

I don't know why people are convinced that the primary objective of Reapers is to kill earth's population until it gets down to zero when we've given every indication that killing is a means to an end. That end is consumption. What Reapers do is HARVEST sentient life. It's in the name itself, reap as in a farmer reaping a crop. So it seems like the Reaper MO is... Step 1: Destroy any militaries capable of opposition. Step 2: Secure the survivors and indoctrinate them. Step 3: Use indoctrinated survivors to locate stragglers. Step 4: Consume all of them for resources. Step 5: Leave the galaxy. Go to sleep. Wait for next cycle. What we see in ME3 is just the FIRST step. As soon as a representative from humanity or the Council says, "Hey, we give up." then it's very plausible that the Reapers will stop obliterating entire cities and will move on to steps 2 and 3, which can take centuries as established in the lore. It's important to remember that, were it not for coincidence and the Protheans' efforts, the galaxy would have NO idea what the Reapers are or what they want. They wouldn't know that this is an existential fight. If it weren't for Shepard, I think it would be extremely likely that the rest of the galaxy would see Earth getting shock-and-awed and then would sue for peace with the Reapers, ignorant of the fact that there's no 'buying time' with Reapers and that making peace with Reapers is just delaying extinction. We can assume that MOST cycles had no warning or knowledge of Reapers before they attacked. These giant space shrimp appeared and wiped out their strongest militaries almost instantaneously. I bet most civilizations surrendered to this threat without realizing that they were exposing themselves to Indoctrination because they had no idea Indoctrination was even a thing.

I think the "Choose your own Adventure" book analogy could be useful, but not how Paige/Pat posited it. It's more like if Woolie got to the first decision point in the book. made a choice, got to the second decision point, and then went back to the first decision point, skiped over the section that the other choice leads to, and asked someone else what their choice would be at that decision point and continued on from there.

@Zangelin

Жыл бұрын

No. its like if Reggie made some choices. then woolie made some. and then reggie made some while they're playing together. Why are you all acting like they are different people playing and Woolie only played 2. You count as co-op playing if you're there on the couch. Did none of all have friends growing up?

@Drago5899

Жыл бұрын

​​​​​@@Zangelinyou apparently didn't or you would know a co-op game involves two controllers and two people using inputs to affect the game. Woolie is not affecting the game, he is backseat quarterbacking his friend into making the decisions he wants and when people complain he can throw his friend under the bus. The channel is called Woolie vs. Not Reggie vs. We love Reggie but this is an iconic role-playing game that Woolie advertised he would play, when he is not actually playing, he is watching. How is that hard for you to understand? Edit: spelling.

@NeoBluereaper

Жыл бұрын

They're playing undertale Genocide first 1/3 then Pacifist 2/3 then Genocide last 1/3.

@SteelBallRun1890

Жыл бұрын

@@Zangelin I had friends growing up, none of what you said ever counted as "co-op playing". My friends backseating the game behind me and me doing it behind them isn't counted as "us playing it", it's "me/my friend playing as my friend/me watched". You know what's co-op playing? Actually having two controllers and playing with a friend, or unless the game calls for said gimmick. They're not playing two characters, they're playing one single character whose choices are intended to be carried over through one continuous storyline. My guy, you've commented the same excuse over and over in other comments, do you really not find it one bit insane how it sounds?

@Serahpin

Жыл бұрын

@@SteelBallRun1890 You never traded off after death in one-player games? How sad. Are you sure you even had friends?

Reggie is a slave to his emotions, making his game choices extremely chaotic and therefore interesting.

@miguelnewmexico8641

Жыл бұрын

Woolie refuses to be a slave to his brain chemicals. i refuse to disclose my opinion on this, i just wanted to bring back brain chemicals.

Just really would’ve been cool if it was either Reggie or Woolie the whole way through. It’s good the choices are being carried over, but some of those choices made wouldn’t have been made by the other person playing.

I really hope Woolie chooses to walk towards the green, because you know... green.

@damonsghost9235

Жыл бұрын

Can't wait to see thier faces.

@cbhensoncbhenson5515

Жыл бұрын

Why would you wish the objectively worst of the 4 endings on them? Yes, worse than refusal I stand by that.

@damonsghost9235

Жыл бұрын

@@cbhensoncbhenson5515 LOL because it's not what you think it is. It actually does what they say it does. Unless we are talking consent. I think the concept of the cycle kinda throws that our the window.

@cbhensoncbhenson5515

Жыл бұрын

@@damonsghost9235 Oh no, don’t worry about the next cycle. There will be no next cycle in Synthesis’s technological hellscape. Because literally every organism in the galaxy is affected, even fucking plants. Galactic evolution has been successfully obliterated. Wooo we did it Patrick! We saved the galaxy! 🥳

@damonsghost9235

Жыл бұрын

@@cbhensoncbhenson5515 of course there is no cycle. Only one chioce can continue the cycle. Nothing ghost boy said made me think the "new DNA" would resist change. Imagine being able to invoke biological and physical change by will alone. To live and thrive in near any environment. Your morphology literally morphing Interesting direction though. Didn't see that coming.

Pat gears up to dunk on Dragon Age 2's dialogue choice change, only to get his criticism wrong 3 times in a row. I dunno why Woolie was starting to believe everything else he was saying after that, he clearly didn't remember much about DA2.

@1985hz

Жыл бұрын

Pat being opinionated and upset about something he is factually dead-ass wrong about? That's a first!

@SeruraRenge11

Жыл бұрын

He is right though, DA2 is a godawful game. And I say that as someone that actually likes DA2. But the dialogue wheel is like the least offensive thing about the game when you really think about it.

I’ve noticed a pattern that Twitch chat is generally more favorable to Woolie and KZread comments are more hostile to Woolie, with the subreddit being a melting point, skewing towards Pro-Woolie sentiment. No real statement here, just something I noticed.

@Adser261

Жыл бұрын

You are seeing people in different levels of investment. Twitch are the ones who are the most invested in Woolie, since you have to be online exactly when he is streaming, and so his biggest fans are there. Then goes Reddit, which doesn't need a time investment but does need a social investment, as the content isn't there, so you have people who are invested in Woolie but may not necesarily see him in a good way. And then you have KZread, the place with the least investment needed, and so you have a far bigger range. I would say that KZread is the best one to show the average sentiment about Woolie, since it has less of a chance to become the echo chambers that high investment places tend to be.

@TheBKdynasty

Жыл бұрын

You’re also seeing the levels of moderation, people will probably get banned if they’re too negative in twitch chat. Whereas Woolie isn’t going through KZread comments and deleting them.

@1985hz

Жыл бұрын

​@@TheBKdynasty KZread jannies don't get butthurt and set comments to emote only.

@gameb9oy

Жыл бұрын

@@Adser261 this is interesting. Compared to Woolie, how do people feel about pat? I feel like there’s a lot of eye rolling in the comments on KZread, but generally people are fairly positive. Since his KZread vids are just the same as twitch, I’m pretty certain people seem to like him and Paige there, but I could see him going either way on Reddit

@Adser261

Жыл бұрын

@@gameb9oy Well, don't quote me since I'm not really part of their community, but as I understand the general consensus is that Pat being so unashamed about his insanity means that all the people who still follow him either love that or can ignore it, making for a much more positive feeling. Woolie on the other hand is just as insane as Pat, but he goes to great lengths to try to appear as if he is not, making it far more annoying. It is not considered part of the show and so people see that with worse eyes.

The "emoji wheel" in Dragon Age 2 actually isn't bad, even if its nowhere near as good as just having a silent protagonist with a lot of choices. 6 of the emojis were tied to up, middle, and bottom on the wheel much like the Paragon, neutral, and renegade options were in Mass Effect, and even had roughly the same layout. The ones at the top were generally good and helpful like a paragon, middle was funny and charming, bottom was hostile and aggressive like a Renegade. I think they were also color coded in blue, purple and red respectively. Meanwhile, all the other emojis were colored yellow/gold, and were simple enough to understand, like question marks or crossed swords to represent asking for more information and startinf combat.

@DarkWraithKevin

Жыл бұрын

I have a lot of bad things to say about that game and the "emoji wheel" is close to the bottom of that list. I totally agree with you

@SeruraRenge11

Жыл бұрын

If anything the one neat thing DA2 did was that the more you picked a certain option, the more it changed Hawk's personality even when other choices are picked. Like if you went 90% sarcastic/smartass (the purple laughing option), then Hawke has a smug demeanor to him in conversations even when he's picking the good or evil options.

Did not realize this was an hour long discussion when I was listening to it

21:33 "we're just playing the game together" so why tf did you not just continue with ME1 save and go through 2 and 3 with it? You realize you can change your stance on things each game right? The whole fun of the mass effect trilogy, especially when you are watching someone play it, is making decisions and finding the consequences in the end.

@6187490

Жыл бұрын

because he got salty reggie was funnier than him and tried to take over with blue but it failed, this is just mental gymnastics

Woolie plays ME1, then he guides Reggie through an ME1 play. Woolie plays ME2, then switches off with Reggie for ME3. So, in summary: Woolie played ME1 then ME2, and now is watching an ME3 play. Pat: "You're playing the games in the wrong order. You're playing them backwards. Your started with the last game and going to the first." _Pat is insane._

woolie is using MADE IN HEAVEN between games

I'll step in and say that the passing of the controller has been fucking sick. It has been hilarious seeing the difference between the one driving and the devil on the shoulder. You're doing great, loving the playthrough. Keep on keeping on

i agree with woolie, reggie and him were both there for everything, they both made the choices together after discussing it

I wonder if theres a way to make blue the antagonist for the citadel dlc

It's so weird for Pat to be the voice of reason in all of this, and Woolie somehow not get it. Yes, Woolie in a technical sense you went through the series chronologically. But in an actual sense, if you explain to someone how you tackled these games, people will think you're crazy. This is nearing JoJo Mother Basement's Reading Order.

@kapkant6197

Жыл бұрын

The thing is, even when Pat is wrong, you can follow the line of reasoning he got there with. And even then if you call him crazy he'll go "hell yeah I'm crazy and right!" Meanwhile Woolie's line of logic tends to be almost eldritch, and he'll look at you like you are the crazy one for not wanting to vomit in the purse.

@KurstKensei

Жыл бұрын

Oh God that fucking guy, what the hell is he doing nowadays?

@jjrambles683

Жыл бұрын

Nah Woolie has always been kinda insane

@6187490

Жыл бұрын

Because he cant say the real reason is he got salty Reggie was funnier and his blue sheppard bombed in comparison

@HalcyonSunset

Жыл бұрын

@@6187490 Ding ding ding!

Reds back because it's cool. That's about it.

I'm here for it. It's nice to see the differences.

22:50 If he thinks watching from the side is the same as experience the story then wouldn't it make more sense to keep the same character through the trilogy and then watch videos of those moments later? Others have done it before.

This is the first time I have ever seen Pat mention Reggie

It's the most messed up, all over the place, story breaking Mass Effect playthrough I've ever seen, and I love it.

It's my cannon that Blue Shepard exists in reds head like Jonny silver hand in cyberpunk and me2 was blue escaping for a while

My favorite dynamic, Woolie is crazy and Pat is wrong

Shattering a frozen enemy in Mass Effect 3 is legit one of the most satisfying things ever. Like holy shit the sound is so CRUNCHY. My question is if Woolie is gonna play Andromeda?

The more I watch, the less I understand Woolie's definition of "fun". Woolie should have done a woolie v ME and right after Reggie v ME and do the subsequent games in that fashion. I think the outrage is that you're not getting a coherent story line as it isn't you making all the choices so it feels less lack for a better term "genuine" storyline.

@airworthyboxer9432

Жыл бұрын

But this way he gets to complain about game pacing,forgetting information and basic universe concepts

Honestly I'm more pissed that we never get to see Palavan Also the fact earth lasts more than a week infuriates me to no end

@clan741

Жыл бұрын

In Mass Effect 1 Virgil states the Reapers are precise in their genocide and stick around planets for centuries, thats why so many protheans died in stasis, the reapers stuck around on Illos long after their life support systems could handle. Also its stated earth is losing a million lives a day, on a planet of 11 billion peoples that would take the reapers at least a couple centuries, EVEN WOOLIE said they’re not just killing they’re busy harvesting the population into sludge to make more reapers, which is what they do every cycle in a twisted form of reproduction.

MASSIVE SPOILERS FOR THE CITADEL DLC, DO NOT READ THIS ESPECIALLY IF YOU'RE REGGIE OR WOOLIE . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . I really like switching back to Red because Blue turned out to be a truly villainous character, especially when it comes to Zaeed's loyalty mission, so now we potentially have the chance of Asuna getting them the mod that allows the evil Shepard clone in the Citadel DLC to be the opposite gender of the player, so we can have Blue make a full heel-turn and face off against Galactic Hero, Red Shepard

@TheDancerMacabre

Жыл бұрын

you called it

I would argue that the single greatest mod for DA2 is the one that converts all the dialogue in the game back into the old KotoR-style format - and if you're feelin' adventurous, also grabbing that mod that changes all the fonts back to Origin's style instead of the very modern one they've stuck with. It so fucking massively changes the scope of the game. Someone was trying to do it for Mass Effect, but ME1 has a *lot* of instances, especially during side missions, where all of the choices literally do say the same thing, it's just whether or not you got Paragon or Renegade points for saying them.

yo this game is pretty simple, just make decisions with one character and carry it forward to see the consequences Woolie: make it super complicated for no reason, got it. well no, it's pretty simple actua-- Woolie: Did I fucking stutter? I love Woolie but jesus god damn, man. Sometimes things don't require you to try to think outside the box, the box is fine, just stay in the box.

Gotta back Woolie up on this one. I think the key information that Pat is misinterpreting is that Red and Blue are canonically the same character in some weird timey-wimey bullshit way, and therefore the experience isn't "Watch only Woolie, then Watch Reggie" because neither of them are going to go back to the others game. (i.e. Woolie is not likely to come back to ME1 anytime soon) You watch them in sequential order regardless of the LP'er.

@tylerlackey1175

6 ай бұрын

Pat isn't misinterpreting woolie, he's misrepresenting him. He knows exactly what woolie is saying but because this is a podcast segment he has taken his diaper off and pointed his ass square at the microphone to make a podcast segment more podcast segment

This play through has been super entertaining but at the end of the day I think it would have been better to just have one person play it through Instead of this tonal whiplash. Woolie sacrifices a little too much for LP funsies sometimes.

@OrcintheBasement

Жыл бұрын

He’s kinda damned both ways. When they switched on 2 his community flipped out. So he’s trying to balance making everyone happy

@WeCareAlot4693

Жыл бұрын

@@OrcintheBasement He should have taken care of that after the first episode of Mass Effect 2. He fucked himself by going through with that all the way. He fucked himself even thinking switching from Reggie to himself was a good idea to begin with.

Yeah Pat is just insane

15:45 I think anyone that was upset was upset because of the character switch, not the player switch. I think It would've been fine if Woolie played 2 and 3 but never made Blue.

@WakkaMadeInYevon

Жыл бұрын

That wouldn't really have made a difference, Red is Red because of how Reggie plays him, and Blue is Blue because of how Woolie played her. Reggie plays fast and loose to the point of being unpredictable but ultimately ends up skewing Paragon. Woolie sticks hard to the Renegade path even when it dips into psycho territory. For the bit? Perhaps. So if Woolie had played as Red, chances are he would've just been a male Blue.

Reggienutters, are you town?

Like I keep thinking Woolie is partially doing what Chip and Ironicus does with their LPs, where they show alternative choices and character builds and optional content, but the difference is those are not blind let's plays, they are prerecorded, Chip plays all the playthroughs and edits different choices etc. in between and end while explaining what he's doing to Ironicus who is usually the blind one on the LPs - But Woolie does these live, blind, swaps to different characters and choices and omits the ones that weren't played and without the help of the support team who does the mods, save edits and manages this casserole of crazy choices, this would been a mess. But still, hats off to Woolie it did pay out in the end, you did the craziest unhinged bet and managed to pull it off. Pat wasn't crazy in this one though. Not the slightest.

no shepard having that reaction to the kid isnt nearly as ridiculous as him obsessing and dreaming about him constantly so much that the child is at the end

I mean i think dragon age 2's crew are pretty great. They feel like a family but in a good and bad way where they can bicker and needle each other but get along in diffrent ways and interact way more then most of the campaions in biogames.

Pretty amazing to see a single man unconsciously recreate every pitfall of the Star Wars sequels

@gemknight9889

Жыл бұрын

I'm glad I wasn't the only one that saw the similarities

@NekoKujo6785

Жыл бұрын

Oof, gonna need a medic for that wound.

Im glad Red is back but im sad I didnt get to watch Blue fall for Javik

Woolie, you are NOT playing it in watch order. The story YOU get as Woolie/Blue Shepard and the story Reggie would get as Red Shepard are DIFFERENT STORIES.

@TheFacelessHeathen

Жыл бұрын

How is it different? The only differences are Shep gender, and romance option. Assuming Red would have made all the same choices, how is this actually any different?

@damonsghost9235

Жыл бұрын

It's really not that different and he never would have found out because he will never play again.

@MattManDX1

Жыл бұрын

@@TheFacelessHeathen Red wouldn't have made the same choices, and I know for damn sure Blue wouldn't have made most of Red's choices in ME1

@miguelnewmexico8641

Жыл бұрын

@@MattManDX1 and?

We've reached the ouroboros of suck

I sincerely hope Woolie and or Reggie gives Dragon Age origins a shot

1:20 DXHR is one of my favorite games and I have no idea what he’s talking about with ME2. Is he talking about the cover system?

Engineer has possibly the easiest time of all the classes on insanity in ME3. Those turrets Pat couldn't deal with are god like if you and a certain engineer companion both hack one each they can take can out entire enemy squads. They can almost take out cerberus heavy mech mini bosses alone as well. If you draw the aggro of the mech to keep the turrets alive then the battle is over.

Woolie has truly gone off the deep end, sandbagging the story of a game that's main strength is it's story and character progression. (In all seriousness, I just wanna see Woolie get to the ending, so whether or not Red or Blue Shepard is the one at the finish line doesn't matter to me, cause it sure as shit didn't matter to the devs lol)

I love it when they talk about bioware. Anybody here hear the roomer vent boy was casey hudson's son?

I think Pat is absolutely buggin trying to equate this to a watch order convo, when they are still going through the games in order, together, carrying over the decisions that will transfer between the two characters (which seems to be most of them excluding romantic choices, or anything they deliberately ask Asuna to alter). This is my first ME playthrough im watching and i've never played myself, but it is at least a completely unique kind of playthrough that no other content creator would probably conceptualize. I think that's cool, and i like doing a little fun brain work to try and canonize the body switch whenever i can, but thats just me. If i want the pure, one character experience, i will go watch someone else play through it after. There are BILLIONS of choices out there. i'm even more intrigued to do so now after experiencing it in this way and seeing all up in the games' guts. But i like our shapeshifting, borderline INSANE, promiscuous protag. I could totally be missing some over arching continuity issue that will not work with the way they've chosen to go through the series, or that makes Pat's strange comparison more salient, like i said, this is my first time through. If you read this and can clue me into that, please let me know, i just want to understand.

“I’m not crazy! YOU’RE crazy!”

Woolie had to take the worst possible way to tackle the ME trilogy. The game is about choice and consequences of those choices, they build from one to another towards a goal (a good part of why the ME3 ending was so horrible was because of that, all your decisions were made towards a single goal, stop the Reapers, and the ending shat over all those decisions). By doing this flipflop of players and characters you are left without a complete path for both Red AND Blue, meaning that you are already screwing over the payoff of their choices by having holes where they didn't get to choose at all. Combine that with Woolie backseating like hell because he wants to play ME3 and you are left with a show that is worse that if he had go full Red from the start or even just stayed with Blue.

@gasparsangil3320

Жыл бұрын

Why you mad it just lp

@FumetsuNoTora

Жыл бұрын

Calm down, enjoy things.

@nolanlehman6392

Жыл бұрын

Fair enough lol but he has the point. It's just like... stupid?

@TheBKdynasty

Жыл бұрын

@@escalatingbarbarism5096 plus we already know not all choices carried over correctly with kirrahee surviving and balak escaping.

@Zangelin

Жыл бұрын

its a co-op playthrough when they pass the controller back and forth basically. Have you never done this with your friends?

unrelated but I just realised its been a while since the last fighting game related upload.

@crazyjak56

Жыл бұрын

should be some after the game awards announcements

@kapkant6197

Жыл бұрын

Because Woolie GOT OUT of fighting games as the new king of the genre Pat ordered him to

@SvarogAristaeusAllen

Жыл бұрын

Oh it's comin', don't you worry about that

One day....Woolie vs Dragon Age.

The only explanation that makes sense is Blue going off to Andromeda after ME2. Woolie, play ME:A you coward

Red Shepard

I agree with Pat here, I do love the flip and change but Woolie kinda missed a point. It's the same series and you're going in order but you're definitely skipping around a different character's journey in that series. There have been other series with two perspectives that you see concurrently and this is like watching 2/3 of one and 1/3 of the other but saying you watched the series.

I don’t know how they do the save file edits, but I hope we still get to see people like Conrad Verner and Kirrahe

@Demigodish4o3

Жыл бұрын

You'll see them. Woolie retconned the death of Kirrahe with save file editing when he began ME2.

I really hope Woolie gives the Dragon Age trilogy a try. Its one of the most fun rpgs when it comes to your choices mattering.

OMG they had humanity as the "goldie locks" species the whole time! LOL!

@miguelnewmexico8641

Жыл бұрын

you mean like "middle of the road, not too hot, not too cold, just right, good at everything but doesn't excel at any one thing" thing? that's been a thing in fiction for as long as other races in fiction have existed. either that or we're super badass.

@damonsghost9235

Жыл бұрын

@@miguelnewmexico8641 Yup. It was our adaptive nature and life span. Turians and asari live too long. Make larger scale decisions. Thinking ahead 100's of years in the future. Salarians too short sighted because they don't live as long.

I love how Pat’s misremembered experience of Dragon Age 2’s dialogue system introduced it to Woolie as this horribly oversimplified nonsense instead of an objective improvement over the Mass Effect dialogue wheel.

I've had 3 hours of sleep, and still watching as I'm typing. A year or so out from ME4 they do a Red Shepherd ME2 run back, and a Blue Shepherd ME3 run back. Ending with a "Blue Shepherd" (If Shepherd is still main character) ME4 run so it's got a more stable flow fron ME3 to a ME4 LP. There could be a Reggie LP of Mass Effect Andromeda either before or after ME4. IDK just an idea from a sleep deprived idiot.

I like (read: it is very weird) how Pat continues to accuse Woolie of playing the series out of order even AFTER all the clarification that the LPs are not only in chronological order, but continuing to port the last game's decisions forward. Also Woolie I don't really know how to give you a vibe check on the Citadel DLC thing since I can't make it to streams much, but if you don't intend to play ME3 for yourself in the future I highly encourage you to at least get a Citadel DLC save for Blue prepped for your own private use one way or another. You'll see why I think you could still enjoy a second round of it once you get there.

@bearful

Жыл бұрын

right? his insistence on being right was so weird woolie n reggie are copilots why does it matter who holds the wheel

Patrick's on the thumbnail of Joe Lycett's most recent video.

You do you king

It's definitely a different way to play and I'm here for it.

[Citadel Spoiler] Instead of switching to Blue they should use the FemShep v BroShep mod and swap Blue over the clone.

The idea of "Why is Earth important" is just BAFFLING. My guys? The entire Mass Effect series is space politics from Earthlings as a new comer's perspective. Mass effect 1 is all about Humans gaining a foothold in universal politics. Mass Effect 2 is literally about a group of space racists trying to dominate said universe politics and mass effect 3 is bringing the threat home so you can end it.

@damonsghost9235

Жыл бұрын

The space racist did stop a backdoor invasion. You will see everyone thinks about the homeworld in the "end".

There's a very certain mod that would be perfect for Citadel but would be impossible to explain why without spoiling a very big hype moment. Maybe Asuna can set up the mod and patch and just tell them to play don't look at the modlist

@XXCreed

11 ай бұрын

So about that...

27:05 Yeah sure it's a double-blind playthrough, but does it fulfill the whole gold-standard of also being placebo-controlled?

Did people prefer Red Shepard? That's the core of Woolie's defense.

@sidetracker3496

Жыл бұрын

People that "prefer" Red are the ones that werent ok with Woolie rolling back the save after the Suicide Mission. And now when Red sociopathically decides to dump Tsli for Liara, kill the Geth and a myriad of other inconsistent decisions they'll try to gaslight us into thinking its "fun" to have an internally inconsistent Shepard. Yes i am genuinely mad about dumping Chakwas because muh french accent

@legoman7041

Жыл бұрын

@@sidetracker3496 I just watched that and have no idea why Reggie did that. But I didn't watch the original playthrough so who knows

@sidetracker3496

Жыл бұрын

@@legoman7041 There is literally no reason as to why he decided to do that other than French Accent from a character that had 1 voice line 2 games ago. Meanwhile Chakwas has been there for the crew since the begining. Reggie is a man that thinks with his penis 1st and his brain 3rd

@heykak

Жыл бұрын

@@legoman7041 quite french nurse (that has expressed direct interest in another character)

a dragon age origins lp would be so hype

It is EXTREMELY weird, the way Woolie is doing this. I don't care, it's entertaining, but it does make me a bit sad that they're not really experiencing the amazing Mass Effect story in a way that makes sense. It's just for fun, it's just for laughs, and that's fine if that's all they care about, but I enjoy so much more about video games than that, and it's a bit of a shame they don't. It'll still be hilarious, so it's not like I'm gonna stop watching two thirds of the way through this mess.

@Zangelin

Жыл бұрын

I still don't get how its weird. They're just passing the controller back and forth.

@FishSkeleton-

Жыл бұрын

This comment comes off as "enjoy it the way I think you should" without wanting to commit to saying that.

@ODST_Parker

Жыл бұрын

@@FishSkeleton- No, it's literally saying, "I enjoy it this way, you enjoy it that way. I'm still gonna watch your way because it's entertaining."

Are people... not listening? Woolie said *in this video* that Red's choices carried into Blue, and now Blue's decisions have carried back into Red for 3. It's fundamentally the *same* save file carried over, all that has changed is the voice, face, and lover of Shepard and the person behind the controller. Is it a little weird? Yes, but it's not like he's not going to get the payoff of things set up between the games. The major decisions are still carrying over!

@Zangelin

Жыл бұрын

I dont see how people are confused by this or say its "ruined the playthrough" or how its like a different watch order. Its just swapping whos holding the controller and sheps gender, thats it. otherwise its exactly like two people playing a singleplayer game together. Like has noone here does this before?

@bluerose5071

Жыл бұрын

@@Zangelin Exactly. I would understand the criticism more if Reggie had only come in on ME3, or if Woolie had waited until now to take the controller, but no. They've been side by side the whole time, effectively talking out the decisions and coming to a mutual conclusion the whole way. There are subtle differences with Red and Blue, ultimately it's the same two dudes making the decisions, with the only difference being who has executive override privileges.

@MrZathos

Жыл бұрын

So, to be fair, the ME1 save file was NOT carried over to ME2 perfectly. There were a number of decisions in 1 that had been changed, though they were mostly all minor. I'm not sure if Woolie has ever gone into it, but it seems like whoever did the genderswap for him with the save editor also changed some of Reggie's choices.

@bluerose5071

Жыл бұрын

@@MrZathos What did some of these changes entail, and do you think it was intentional changes or perhaps just mistakes/overlooked during the creation process?

@DatAsuna

Жыл бұрын

@@bluerose5071 Balak and Kirrahe were brought back simply because in ME3 not having them around is just losing content rather than substantive replacements, Kirrahe's death just happens due to not wall hugging the level rather than a choice made. The minor errors are stuff like the ME1 crime boss that hangs out in omega was set to say the line Reggie joked about picking rather than the one he picked. But she's just a one and done conversation in the club, not a quest.

The dialogue system woolie was describing around 44:30 is dragon age inquisition and that game is great I think he’d fuck with it would love a playthrough

Pat is crazy, the swap between red and blue is NOTHING like watching a long-run series out of order.

@andrizzleton

Жыл бұрын

It’s actually less sensical

whens resident evil lp's woolie? never? thatd be fair. doing the silenthils then straight in dead space gauntlet do be tough. plus you seemed really ready to commit to armored core 'finally' as you put it

Just another example of pat is crazy