If you came into Elden Ring expecting a linear Souls title, you played yourself from the get go. The game wants you to explore before speed running into the main bosses, it makes sense. There’s plenty of mini bosses to grind up before going down the main story

@xxdevilx3

2 жыл бұрын

Spot on! Some people don't understand the idea of exploration and progression. The reason margit is a hard boss is because fromsoft wants the players to explore limgrave first and see what the open world has to offer. It is genius in my opinion because if you're really good at the game you can kill margit at a low level but if you suck - like most people - you retaliate and explore the world to become better in every aspect. The game naturally guides you to make that decision.

@puracheach

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah what is he expect they even said there is open area

@BlastHeart96

2 жыл бұрын

Big agree! It’s like some people nowadays are incapable of sitting back and enjoying something rather than just rushing to the end. If I just dropped $60+ on a game you’d better believe are going to enjoy it to the fullest.

@doubled99218

2 жыл бұрын

@@xxdevilx3 the game doesn't clarify that lol. fromsoftwares games so far have all be linear. this is the first time as an open world game that its breaking away from that. can't blame the players, its just bad game design which asmongold was trying to get across.

@ROFLWAFFLELAWL4

2 жыл бұрын

Not just that but of these open world games Elden Ring, imo, laid things out pretty well. Rarely is there an area that doesn’t reward a little exploring and sometimes (like where summit was) you go back there once you obtain something. Breath of the wild I couldnt quite get into because of almost the same reasons Summit gave for Elden Ring but that was mostly because it was an open space but there were also some patterns you could identify to find key points of interest. It felt similar to Skyrim. Elden Ring however feels packed with things to do.

Summit is the kinda guy who doesn't wipe his ass, cause there was no quest objective telling him to do it

@jynflyn3650

2 жыл бұрын

😂

@MP-py1ei

2 жыл бұрын

Ridiculous 😂😂😂😂

@uncommonsense7821

2 жыл бұрын

😅😅😅

@indicasesh

2 жыл бұрын

😂 ok this needs more likes

@ketchard

2 жыл бұрын

I kinda agree with him since there’s so much dead space

This is my first Souls like game, and Margit kicked my ass. I ended up in Caelid before I killed him. But then I discovered the wonders of magic in this game

@yoogni4108

2 жыл бұрын

Same! I’ve already put 40 hours into this game and I’m yet to beat Margit, but it’s still extremely fun and I look forward to discovering more ways to actually get good and improve.

@batchest7201

2 жыл бұрын

@@yoogni4108 would you recommend it to someone who’s never played as well? I loved botw, that’s why I was interested because I like open world

@venerablebrothergoriate5844

2 жыл бұрын

@@yoogni4108 go find the teleporting chest in the Dragon-Burned ruins at Agheel lake. Once it teleports you, GET THE HELL OUT OF THAT TUNNEL AS QUICK AS YOU CAN. Once you’re out, walk to the shoreline of the lake now that you’re in Caelid. Hang a left, keep an eye out for an item sitting in a small, wrecked stone building on the shoreline. There’s gonna be a dog in there that can hit you with Scarlet Rot if you don’t kill him quickly. Get the item, it’s a summon for that same dog. Use that little guy on Margit. Keep Margit’s aggro long enough for your new doggo to proc Rot on Margit. Then, all you gotta do is avoid him until the Rot kills him.

@xxXXPurifiedSpiritfallXXxx

2 жыл бұрын

@@batchest7201 I've never played another souls game other than Dark Souls 3 remastered, and I used cheats in that one, yet now, I'm lvl 76 and close to finishing the game. Entirely worth it.

@batchest7201

2 жыл бұрын

@@xxXXPurifiedSpiritfallXXxx are the bosses extremely hard tho? Also a worry of mine is getting to a point in the game where I’m under leveled and won’t know what to do

People expect linear pathing and I feel Fromsoft took that knowledge and lead you to Margit which is both clever and awful, in short, it's because he is too difficult for most players but it also teaches you that you will need to learn from your mistakes and should take some time to level up and explore. That being said, I think FROM did a good job on letting the player know that you should try exploring other places because the Tree sentinel that is right outside the first step already should explain to the player that fighting them is an option and just because it's the first thing you see in the open area doesn't mean it should be fought.

@thebepis712

2 жыл бұрын

I thought I was just miserably bad at soulsbourne games lol, glad to find out the reason i got stomped on was in part due to difficulty lol

@debrabarber3483

2 жыл бұрын

@@snickle1980 look, I'd be fine if it wasn't advertised as a single player game. It's not. Companion AI is bad, summoned characters are bad, and you're constantly seeing other players unless you turn it off. I'm not mad that the game is hard, I'm mad it was supposed to be a single player game, not an MMO

@MugMan

2 жыл бұрын

​@@debrabarber3483 I get wanting a difficulty option because I am someone who believes games should have some accessibility for players but overall it comes down to the vision and marketing of the game. With that out of the way, Elden Ring is pretty well another Dark Souls game under another IP IMO, that being said in all of those games there has never been microtransactions, or multiplayer required. The closest thing you had to accessibility was to summon an AI or someone in, but I know a few people, including myself, like to play these games solo first for the experience and the challenge. The game doesn't need to be coop only or MMO and has proved that through its other games and its success here. There are other people who share similar opinions as you have shared and it seems to come down to the same reasoning which is this game is to challenging to be considered fun or accesible to your needs. I think it is an unfair and biased opinon to say this game forces coop and grinding and feel that comes from frustration from accessibility, because like you said, a lot of friends say the game is fun and between consumer reviews and profressional critics, the game scoring great and being well recieved by most. It's fine to hate a game for many reasons, but to extend your opinion with a heated bias like "forces coop and grinding so expect microtransactions in the future" seems unreasonable.

@debrabarber3483

2 жыл бұрын

@@MugMan I hope that they don't go in that direction, but they might, the game looks great, but seems poorly designed as an open world game. At least for the first 20 or so hours. People are saying it gets better 50 hours in, but I don't know if I want to invest that time doing something I find boring and frustrating. I want to explore, but I usually get punished with a one hit death, so that's not fun. I'm also not a fan of games that steal your experience. It feels like a huge needless waste of time in a game that is non linear and doesn't need a time sink mechanic. Would have overlooked it if the game was not extremely frustrating, but so far I just want my money back. Feels like I got ripped off

@debrabarber3483

2 жыл бұрын

@@snickle1980 umm yep, multilayer needs to be on. It's a good thing you can turn it off, but why is it even there in this kind of game? It would be like wasting time putting it in the Witcher 3. That's why it feels forced in, like they were trying to make an MMO, but changed their mind half way through. Or they are trying to force co op though difficulty. Also the companion AI are only available in certain places. Don't worry about them though, they tend to get in the way and mess up your combos

I think the mini bosses you find through exploration are actually what your first bosses are supposed to be.

@thefull9746

2 жыл бұрын

I think so too

@yoavlandau7871

2 жыл бұрын

Fuck that lion with sword

@spotttttt2843

2 жыл бұрын

fr that giant at frontgate

@guts9160

2 жыл бұрын

I don't know the tree sentinel it's harder than Margit i think

@bungusboyyo

2 жыл бұрын

@@yoavlandau7871 wait til you get 2 lions and one has magic ;)

Here's the thing though: if you "tunnel vision" straight to the castle... You immediately run into a gold knight on a horse, past that is a knight camp where you easily get ganged up on and then there is a giant troll with a large sword. *The game is telling you to explore the area first* BEFORE going to the castle so you can buff yourself and prepare

@dx-dragon4399

2 жыл бұрын

If it's hard to early than they will go play another game if it's hard later than your already having fun with the game and you want to continue getting people to quit your game shouldn't be what the game try's to do

@dx-dragon4399

2 жыл бұрын

@@randomdude8544 I like bloodborne dark souls was boring so slow but most people aren't going to play the games if the start is so hard

@jacobramirez9552

2 жыл бұрын

@@dx-dragon4399 bro just level up to 30 and then summon the sorcerer guy for the first boss and you’re done with him.

@sicknificantfgc7633

2 жыл бұрын

@@dx-dragon4399 if people are too stupid they are too stupid. This game isn't created for the typical mmo/wow player that needs a version of the game that caters to their mind-numbing stubbornness. The caves, tombs, crypts, and villages are much easier to do and get you leveled up so you can logically come back to the "overpowered/hard" stuff. If you can't do those other things... then yeah as others said... git gud.

@randomdude8544

2 жыл бұрын

@@dx-dragon4399 That's literally why the series became so popular, when Demon Souls and Dark souls were made, what drove the popularity was the fact it was so difficult. More people are playing them now so of course you're gonna get people who are literally crying over the difficulty, but that is what these games were built up from. If you don't like the difficulty boo hoo then stop playing, there are more than enough people who love the difficulty of the game that will keep it alive. I keep seeing people who are new to the series that think you can just pick up the game and be good, but if you tell the instant gratification monkey in your brain to chill out for a second and take time to learn something it will be easier than any other souls game. Poorly Written rant over.

I think the beauty of souls is finding that easy mode for ourselves. Carving out a path through a genuinely hostile world and mastering our own unique playstyles is damn rewarding. Elden ring is a masterpiece because it is accessible, but difficult. No from soft game has ever given players so many options for exploration, and the player must utilize exploration to beat margit. In my opinion margit is the best “first” boss we have ever had, because he strongly encourages the exploration that made dark souls 1 so memorable. But he still smashed me into oblivion and I loved every second.

@GenuineA-HOLE

2 жыл бұрын

I personally don’t like how accessible elden ring is. I fear that they’ll listen to much to the community. They even decreased a bosses health because the people who were bad at the game complained to much about it. They worked half a decade to make a game just for people to be nit picky because they’re trash at the game. I’m glad that theyre nerfing certain weapons that make pvp unbalanced. People will complain about the nerfs because they can’t figure out things themselves instead they listen to everyone else on how to play and make a build or what to use instead of progressing on their own terms. I can tell that the statement does contradict itself a bit.

@girth_goblin

2 жыл бұрын

@@GenuineA-HOLE ay, more casuals for us to invade lmao. I do agree with you in terms of difficulty. I like where the bosses are, some are easy and some are brutally punishing. My problem is with the standard enemies. The faction soldiers and their knights are sooooo easy. I’d like to see more variety, instead of the same enemies with different colors.

@GenuineA-HOLE

2 жыл бұрын

@@girth_goblin I second that. I also wish that hordes came instead of small amounts. Summoning should be set in a player friendly way. Maybe less demanding than it is now.

@zel9061

2 жыл бұрын

@@GenuineA-HOLE It was radahn that was nerfed right? No wonder when I went against him he was a push over

@GenuineA-HOLE

2 жыл бұрын

@@zel9061 yeah he was actually okay at first. I’ve never seen anyone cry about a nerfing darkeater mydir the hardest boss I’ve fought in my 15 years of gaming. They even cried to give radahn some health back 🤣🤣

As a newer player to DS series, started DS3 few weeks back. Then in Elden Ring, Margit was the hardest boss to fight, died around 20 times. After taking a step back and practicing against Mad Tongue Alberich, came back and got Margit from the Second attempt. I enjoy this difficulty, but Margit was definitely much stronger than Champion Gundyr for a first storyline boss.

@WileeCoyote1516

2 жыл бұрын

I found alberich way harder tbh he was two shotting me 😂 I died a fair bit to margit but I literally nearly killed him on my third try at level twenty so I knew I could do and really just needed more heals.

@chimpy7267

2 жыл бұрын

There is an item you can get to bind Margit during combat a few times. The devs knew it was hard so they put in an item to help.

@WileeCoyote1516

2 жыл бұрын

@@chimpy7267 margits shackle yeah I found it after I beat him lol that's why it's important to explore

@maran947

2 жыл бұрын

Yes but there are 20 mini bosses you can kill before Margit

@Brad-lt2re

2 жыл бұрын

I really don't understand why everyone struggles with Margit, for me godrick was 10x harder

Margit beating the shit out of you is supposed to be the lesson. That is the game telling you, "either really learn this fight, or get stronger."

@hereweare9011

2 жыл бұрын

Well put.

Margit is comparable to dragonslayer armour imo. He telegraphs heavily, doesn't have that many attacks, and summons make every boss fight 10x easier.

@vazazell5967

Жыл бұрын

Dragonslayer is billion times easier

@bisforberries7930

Жыл бұрын

@Vazazell I dunno about that.

Minus a couple hours into DS2 (friend had it in college so I messed around a bit), I actually was able to bit Marjit within the first 2 hours. I did explore around a little bit and I didn't start fighting him until I was an hour in. I kept dying so fast because I was underleveled but that taught me so much about his movemens and timing. I felt so relieved after beating him, then I completely skipped Stormveil until I was 20 hours in xD

Games don’t have to be for everyone.

@AlienPatch

2 жыл бұрын

Don't HAVE to... but it tends to be neat when they are.

@llwonder

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheRealAb216 you can be casual and enjoy games like elden ring. Casual and MMOs don’t work well together because they require immense time investment. Any dark souls game can be played very casually, but you need to have a base level of skill to progress

@1984Variant

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheRealAb216 there's casual, where you don't play much and then there's just being bad and the game genre not being for that person. Genres should not cater to all audiences.

@theguyinhd

2 жыл бұрын

that's the best part of it really, that devs can go and turn their vision into their ideal game. Imagine there was a rulebook that you had to follow when making a game or like a checklist of all the people you have to please with a certain game. Or imagine artists would have to change an artwork because someone doesn't like it

@Voltroc

2 жыл бұрын

You aren't keeping up with the times. Everything must homogenize.

Unfortunately, when a game like Elden Ring gets so hyped up, people who generally don't like souls like games or BotW style world design games will still feel the need to buy it purely because of the hype. This leads to them having a bad experience and complaining that the game is "bad" because it's simply bot their type of game. Personally, I'm loving it because I love souls games but I ain't going to tell friends that I know don't like souls games that they "have to get it" and "it's the best game in the world" etc.

@arceptor

2 жыл бұрын

I love botw. I hate this

@resleyyeltser3996

2 жыл бұрын

Luckily i bought the game coz of the hype, but directly hooked into it bcause of the challenge

@theguyinhd

2 жыл бұрын

lmao I actually got all my friends hooked on it, even though most of them never play games like these. It's also so much more fun to talk to each other about progress everyones making etc

@Dr.AvenVon

2 жыл бұрын

then you are the mionority. the souls fanbase is really bad when it comes to recommending their holy games to other people

@saphironkindris

2 жыл бұрын

As someone that loves souls games to the point of them being my favourite kind of game, and hated breath of the wild to the point of considering it probably one of my 10 worst AAA games of the last decade, I still don't know if I should buy Elden Ring.

I had never played a game like this… my friend told me to fight the sentimental tree at level 0. As a new player… he told me all this stuff and that he beat him so I was convinced that was how your supposed to play the game. It’s hard as fuck but it’s all about skill learning the attacks and beating that guy as a level one…. I spent two days and gave up. Played the next day and found out I could roam around. I struggled then found out I could level up….

@wafflesmcgallagher934

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, your friend screwed you

@cosseybomb

Жыл бұрын

@@stationorange I laughed

Ah Havel's Armor. I paired that with Havel's shield and Black Knight Haliberd and it definitely made the game heaps easier.

I love how I can just TELL where I am and am not supposed to be. Going straight to Margit before doing any exploring really was a wake up call to not expect what I had before with other games. I can say with zero shame that I gave up fighting Margit until I cleared a good chunck of Limgrave.

@gator3962

2 жыл бұрын

wait until you're near the end and get one shot by some bosses with 50 vit

@lum0x159

2 жыл бұрын

@@gator3962 i am looking at you malenia

@cherryrook8684

2 жыл бұрын

No shame in fighting smart, why smash your head into a wall and lose even more braincells ?

@gator3962

2 жыл бұрын

@@lum0x159 there's a couple of encounters like that. in previous games i had to go into NG5 or 6 on lvl 100 to get one shot by stuff, idk how to feel about this.

@lum0x159

2 жыл бұрын

@@gator3962 i actually like that a bit so that i cant just steamroll through bosses and have to pay attention to certain moves

Hear me out. It’s okay for people to not like a game, you don’t need to justify why someone is wrong about not liking a game just because you like it.

What I really like about this game compared to others in the souls series, is that when you are faced with a boss that you are having a hard time against, the game allows you to explore the vast map to fight enemies and maybe find another boss that may be easier or even just to clear your mind. Alot bosses in previous games were literal roadblocks where you couldn't really do much else until you kill them. Which exists in this game to an extent but you have much more freedom than other games.

@joeking6972

2 жыл бұрын

I just realized something, isn't that something players already did in past games albeit to a much lesser extent? I would just farm some mobs and gain a few more levels before trying again there's nothing really new with this approach so I don't what people are on about.

@lainvohndyrec962

2 жыл бұрын

As someone who is a sucker for lore, this game is like traversing in a book. I explored so much in the game that I got items so op for the early bosses. I enjoyed all the subtle puzzles in the game.

@VileMagicks

2 жыл бұрын

Dude I spent 8 hours in the lower part of Limgrave ,there is so much to find and do in this game. Honestly, people who skip the open world and just run to the castle are missing 80% of this incredible game . And also ,Margit is balanced with that in mind.If they made the boss easier ,the people who explore everything would just 2 shot the boss when they get to him.

@hector9586

2 жыл бұрын

I actually hate it, it's more about stats rather than skill, I am kinda annoyed I have to go back farm more stuff just to kill a boss I want to kill ( unless you wanna waste 8 hours of your life min-maxing every single hit), in Sekiro, it was more about skill, you either learn the mechanics and weakness or will never beat the boss. Forced stuff is no fun.

@swingtity9798

2 жыл бұрын

That's what veterans don't like. You don't have to get good

After some exploration I learned there are items called shackles for certain bosses like Margit, Morgoth or even Mogh where you can just bind them for some time. But those merchants are in some of the most difficult areas so just getting there for low level player would be a nightmare

I think FromSoft going mainstream was bound to cause “some players” to struggle. Idk if their games are for everyone to be honest. I do think it’s cool that people are getting the opportunity to try at least though. RIP to all the newbie tarnished

I've never played a Souls game, but I've found that getting deleted by the first boss actually made me go explore the world to rank up and get better, so I could feel a sense of accomplishment when I finally beat him. And unlike watching people playing other games, I was free to do that, instead of: die to boss-run back-die to boss-run back, etc. just to progress the game. With Elden Ring, boss too tough? Get stronger, come back later.

@ngwoo

2 жыл бұрын

The Souls formula is so well-suited to an open world structure that I'm surprised we didn't get a game like this earlier. It completely eliminates the problem of getting stonewalled by a boss.

@xLionsxxSmithyx

2 жыл бұрын

It's been this way with every souls game, People just mad because it's open world but souls games are always about the World building, Exploration, Lore and Bosses.. Every encounter is only as difficult as the player makes it on themselves.

@cechichan

2 жыл бұрын

sooo, would it be playable/enjoyable for someone that DOES NOT like souls game? if i have hard combat(but not soul like by any means) to grind- and then have a fair chance with bosses, i would def try it bcz i love the world and the combat, but i dont enjoy the very hard difficulty, just not my thing, i enjoy more casual difficutly games bcz thats what i like ;p have fun palying tho guys!

@wayfa13

2 жыл бұрын

@@xLionsxxSmithyx I was about to say this; there was nothing stopping anyone from respawning and farming adds for souls to lvl up. Boggles my mind.

@wayfa13

2 жыл бұрын

@@cechichan then try smth like Mortal Shell (cuz it's cheap, fun and doesn't take too long to play through), or see if you can get a Souls game on discount, to see if you'd enjoy it. If you buy via Steam, you could get a refund if it's not your jam

I had a tougher time fighting the tree sentinel on foot fresh out of the character creator than margit. To the point where margit seemed much more manageable and telegraphed. Is it just me?

@Catffeine_Cafe

2 жыл бұрын

Yes because you're supposed to fight tree sentinel once you get the horse lol

@bnkz

2 жыл бұрын

YOOO KRPTIC!! YOUR MUSIC IS 🔥🔥🔥

@justingraton17

2 жыл бұрын

Use the horse

@TrueBlaze_

2 жыл бұрын

Honestly, though, I'm still stuck on Margit and I already beat the horse guy because there's one move that's super choreographed and punishable. For Margit, I feel like the only opening takes eons to happen, and even then, the window is unbelievably small. I may be new to the souls-borne series, but I can understand that I am suffering because I lack the intelligence to figure out how to beat him.

@biggiecheese2004

2 жыл бұрын

@@TrueBlaze_ get poison grease and use the jellyfish summon. you can also get margits shackle to freeze him two times in his phase 1

I beat Margit on my first try, but I also happened to be wielding a meteor staff with magic glintblade

11:37 Yes, exactly. My first day (6hrs) playing I had a terrible experience. Never knew how to level up (had ~30 sites of grace, but never specifically rested at the one by the bridge giant after unlocking the church grace). Never figured out how to use weapon skills because it kept using my shield skill (the controls to dual wield are not in the tutorial or in the controls, only in the loading screen tips). The first chest I ever opened teleported me to Caelid mines where I lost all my runes (since I couldnt level up) to the bull boss (thought the giant gate was an exit, since all prior bosses had the smoke barrier). And obviously I was traveling this massive map on foot because I was never given a horse. The next day I started a new character and made the decision that this game was not designed to be played without Googling basic mechanics. From then on I had a blast all the way to the end (just finished today).

@wiggumo

2 жыл бұрын

Which charactaer did you change it to?

@christopherjones5700

2 жыл бұрын

i cant imagine the horrible experience i might have had if my friend didnt basically explain half the basic shit to me, that being said its nice not having stupid tutorial shit shoved in my face especially for additional playthroughs.

No matter how good you think you're getting at Elden Ring, the game always has a surprise in store for you. Just now I was getting the hang of fighting dudes on horseback. I was getting pretty good at it, fighting them without taking a hit. I was feeling really good about myself... and then a black knight with his Nazgul looking horse jumped the fuck out of nowhere and pancaked me and my horse in a single blow. I wasn't even mad. Bravo, Elden Ring.

@Gghosty

2 жыл бұрын

Exact same experience! Scared the shit out of me 🤣

@DanielJBlackwood

2 жыл бұрын

That boss actually made me jump. He came out of nowhere lmao.

@s7edgekat610

2 жыл бұрын

Mme too but ofcourse it made me bad when suddenly a boss thrashes me because I don't have enough go.... This is those grindy games which if it was not from software ppl would rate as 5/10...

@GhostChickenTV

2 жыл бұрын

Game just released and people are already quit sadge

@steel5897

2 жыл бұрын

@@fargranhammerheart people like him are basically braindead, don't bother interacting. Just feel pity about their inability to enjoy good things and move on.

The game tries to teach you at the very beginning that it wants you to explore and not feel beholden to taking a linear path. The tree sentinel 100 yards from where you spawn at is the first lesson. Chances are you got your ass kicked by him and had to leave and come back after getting a few levels. I totally understand that with games like this, sometimes people prefer having a set boss order and path you need to follow. I mean when I first started playing, it was pretty overwhelming and I actually looked online to see if anyone had published a sort of "standardized boss order" just so I had some idea of where I should go and when. I was playing on day 1 so no one really had that info out yet, but I managed just fine on my own and I'm glad I did.

@rainyyclouds

2 жыл бұрын

@@kaytee7607 or anyone really as long as you get your mount, beat him first try on horseback

@Egoryotu

2 жыл бұрын

@@rainyyclouds wait... So you DON'T get the horse from the guy RIDING THE HORSE? FUCK man. As of writing this i have 2:30hr of time WASTED on something i DIDN'T EVEN HAVE TO DO. "why did you think the horse comes from him?" because from the gameplay I've seen the horse LITERALLY LOOKS EXACTLY LIKE A GHOST. So i figured "ok. I kill him, get the horse and explore." very misleading. 1/10 ign (jk tho)

@raziel3099

2 жыл бұрын

@@rainyyclouds mount isn't needed. i found it was easier to beat him on ground.

@awesomesauce4758

2 жыл бұрын

@@raziel3099 same you don't need the mount to take him out. Took me a minute but he's basically the Gundyr/pursuer of Elden Ring. Basic mount attacks and a good amount of predictable charged attacks. Yeah he does do a good bit of damage at the start since he can basically 2-3 shot but his first phase isn't exactly hard to dodge (if you have magic you have a pretty good advantage in-between his attacks too). Second phase is all about getting his shield attacks down and dodging that. All in all a nice boss to start with and learn.

@raziel3099

2 жыл бұрын

@@awesomesauce4758 agreed

As a souls player i decided to bash my head against a wall to beat Margit without exploring much of the open world, and it took me many tries. But i don’t hold that against the game, it’s clearly communicating that you can explore and do more before fighting him to make it easier, i just didn’t do that, because i, like many of us, am a masochist.

I ended up beating leonine on my first try. Just grind the game, explore, and get cool weapons you like using. That is the best way to have an advantage on any boss. The more time you spend learning the game the easier it becomes. It’s almost like souls games are made to be like that.

@ReptilianLaserbeam

2 жыл бұрын

I mean I noticed I was getting my ass handed too often so I thought 'hey, let's use a shield instead and parry everything' beat him so easily. I guess everyone just needs to find their own game style; that's the beauty of this game, it forces you to try different strategies, only crazy people will try rushing and doing the same over and over expecting a different result.

I feel like this video / rant is a bit misleading because Steam right now is on like a 60% ratings, but it's nothing to do with the open world being boring or anything like Summit is complaining about, it's because of the FPS / PC bad port / settings / performance. That's way more important and relevant to complain about.

@DrunkenLizard

2 жыл бұрын

The mixed reviews are the reason I'll be waiting to purchase. Also apparently mouse and keyboard are useless according to those reviews.

@crazybeatrice4555

2 жыл бұрын

@@DrunkenLizard I've had no issues with mouse and keyboard so far

@gunkid6368

2 жыл бұрын

i bought it on ps4 runs fine

@nicholaes5395

2 жыл бұрын

I mean, that could be *a* reason why it's getting mixed reviews but that might not be *the* reason it's getting mixed reviews. It probably isn't misleading at all some people might not like the game, and that's fine. Reviews aren't a set law that you will/will not like a game.

@thehanseman2056

2 жыл бұрын

@@DrunkenLizard 8 hours in with mouse and keyboard and it is fine for me, a bit time is needed to get used to it, but I have seen way worse control schemes.

I think with Margit and the Tree Knight, it’s From software trying to teach you to move on or come back to this later once you get stronger. I was too stubborn to move past the tree Knight, but I met people who said they left and came back once they were at a higher level and it became so much easier. Edit: Ornstein and Smough was one of the first boss of their respective game and it was hard as shit. The game just came out, let people learn it and then give your more educated opinion.

@aikidodude05

2 жыл бұрын

well honestly the issues is from softwere has become such a big name that were are geting people who never played souls games before so they are approaching everything wrong I beat margr with 9 levels my sword upgraded i think two times and only the starting gift of a extra flask for and upgrade.... I still beat marg in about 10 tries because instead of just blinding throwing myself at the boss, threw down my summon mark and piggy backed of other people helping them and studding the how they were handling the fight. quickly learn Marg can be staggered. brought the npc summon and wolf back and pretty much keep Marg constantly harried.

@Bananaman-yw4uq

2 жыл бұрын

What o&s isn’t the first boss in ds1 5th or 6th depending on your path

@tellurianapostle

2 жыл бұрын

People are just stubborn

@iansanders283

2 жыл бұрын

I love elden ring but imagine O and S in DS1 and Pontiff in DS3 as your first bosses

@RJMacReady1

2 жыл бұрын

What? O&S isnt the first boss?

This is the most relaxing Fromsoft game yet, I think. Even though the battle pacing is about the same, you get these open world luls that are actually genuinely relaxing. I've never taken it so easy in a From games before.

@RoyalMudcrab

2 жыл бұрын

Then Leyndell happens and you realize the Endgame is bullshit.

@wyvernslayer4530

Жыл бұрын

It's not at all. The only people who day this are the ones who use rivers and magic

I agree with 95% what he said but I have to half disagree with the whole “filter” part. Is is a word used by egotists? Yes. There definitely exists people who wants to feel superior by belittle players, who are struggling and reaching a point of frustration, further by saying something like “lol you just got filtered bro” etc. However I think it’s false to state that devs put in these difficult enemies or bosses to actively “filter” their customers. I believe that any sort of bump along the way of a game is for the devs to encourage the player to learn something different. I sucked so much at games that I actually had trouble with bokoblins in BotW hard mode. I didn’t expect them to be this beefy, regen, or pose a very high risk as a mob. So what do I do? I simply leave them alone and learned along the way to use all the tools and tricks in the bag without having to bash my head against them repeatedly. Same with Margrit for me. Granted this is on a different scale but once I realize that I have no knowledge or the tools to take him on I just opted to leave. I mean it’s not like the game was actively trying to railroad me into fighting him either, no? You had almost full exploration of the world without even beating him. So yeah, I just don’t think Margrit was just there to purposely discourage players into quitting. Also on the side note I don’t think it’s just soulsborne players who have this railroad mentality. I believe it’s the majority of gamers these days. Games lately have been so linear that people automatically expect the game to go step by step to be like the instructions of a manual. So when a game encourages you to try things differently people just assume that it is done out of some malicious intent against the player. And it’s a shame because it just allows the bad actors to run with that false narrative to create a rift between players, and between players and the game it self.

Anyone else remember when gundyr was the "hardest thing ever"? Considering this is a open world game where the entire of limgrave is the starting area people trying to rush into the castle should be getting their ass handed to them. Fighting margit would be like rushing to abyss watchers before you fight gundyr.

@themadmanescaped1

2 жыл бұрын

Gundyr was too easy. I don't understand why people complained about a lot of those bosses in DS3. Only ones I actually struggled with are Gael, Soul of Cinder, Midir, and Nameless King.

@R.E.-Gato

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly! Who tf is fighting Margit right out of the gates?? Why not go explore and get strong first? I don’t get it

@themadmanescaped1

2 жыл бұрын

@@R.E.-Gato I beat Margit at level 15 lol I started as a Wretch.

@R.E.-Gato

2 жыл бұрын

@@themadmanescaped1 wasn’t replying to you, however, you’re making my point. You didn’t fight him at level 1, naked, with nothing but a nice club, right? You went and explored a bit, and then you clapped them cheeks! It’s amazing to me how people can think this game is hard when all it takes is a little preparation and a little time to git gud. Am I way off here?

@themadmanescaped1

2 жыл бұрын

@@R.E.-Gato yeah I got ported to Sellia mine from a warp chest and didn't figure out that I could actually teleport around until riding my way back to The First Step. I followed the road and passed a dragon, and kept going until I eventually hit Summonwater. The boss seemed weak af so I farmed for a Longsword and beat it. Then I used his summon spell to beat Margit.

Without spoiling, there is an item that actually helps with the fight against Margit. The game just doesn't tell you that. When it comes down to it, Souls games are about going back to bosses once you feel ready. But in Elden Ring's case, it's about exploring the map and discovering things until you're ready to face the boss again. You get rewarded for your exploration, not for how quickly you can kill a boss.

@brandenbran

2 жыл бұрын

Except I ruined that chance on accident along with a bunch of other nice things because I simply didn’t know that I shouldn’t have done what I did

@PogU_4Life

2 жыл бұрын

What is the item?

@jacobbrown1004

2 жыл бұрын

I was soo happy when I found that boss with the item man how great

@jiger2396

2 жыл бұрын

Too bad Souls games arent about actual difficulty instead of manufactured gates, you kids would call SF2 Turbo racist because you are worse at it than white people

@PogU_4Life

2 жыл бұрын

@@jacobbrown1004 what is the item?

I saw a guy say "it's just Dark Souls with the walls pushed further away" and I lol'd... then I played the game and realized just how correct he was.

I think he's a bit harder on purpose to make you back off and explore a little. If you just look around limgrave a bit theres so many upgrades and even an item you can use to chain margitt to the ground for basically a free kill Him pushing you back is the game teaching you to explore a bit... Just no one realizes it. The game world is so packed with stuff too. Feels like 30 seconds in any direction drops you into a new boss or ruins or dungeon or event. I hate open world and this is probably my new favorite game

@devonian0590

2 жыл бұрын

When I was exploring a ruin I went into a dungeon and I found a whetstone knife and storm stomp or whatever. But idk how to use it, but I do know it's very useful and I got it for free basically, just had to fight some enemies on the surface

@infinitechibi1496

2 жыл бұрын

@@devonian0590 oh yea I know exactly where you're talking about. That knife is used to attach ashes of war to a weapon and replace it's skill thingy with whatever skill is on that ash of war. Don't underestimate the ashes, they can be very good if you know how to use them properly. I know you can also use ashes to change the stat scaling on a weapon to make it work better for whatever stat spread/build you're using. edit: There's also a map fragment up above on this small glowing pillar in the middle area (the path going straight through the ruins) make sure to grab that also, should make that area of the world easier to explore cus you can see what's on the map. Also that annoying lance/shield dude, (I'm sure you know who I'm talking bout) is way easier with a horse, bait him to attack, dodge with the horse, circle round, hit him in the back/run past and catch him with your weapon, turn super quick, let go of the charge, hit him hard. Rinse repeat. Dead.

@devonian0590

2 жыл бұрын

@@infinitechibi1496 ah yes, I killed him already. And all the bosses in limgrave just about. Also I'm a t castle morne

@infinitechibi1496

2 жыл бұрын

@@devonian0590 that's good to hear, I've only just recently starting playing myself so I hope to catch up eventually.

@devonian0590

2 жыл бұрын

@@infinitechibi1496 I've spen 14 hours in the first area of the game ngl. Found some pretty cool things

Personally I spent two hours figuring out how to beat him with very little gear. Was extremely tough but the satisfaction when beating him so early in the play through is amazing.

@andrewcurtin7003

2 жыл бұрын

I sadly had to summon but even then it was close.

@huntertankersley6491

2 жыл бұрын

This is the satisfaction of beating bosses in the older games. It was a grind, and very frustrating at times, but the satisfaction of winning was the best. This games just doesn't have that, feels way too easy

@damonhillier2293

2 жыл бұрын

@@huntertankersley6491 The game tries to ket players take it at their own pace, I feel. You can make the game as challenging or easy as you like, because the option of exploring and growing more powerful is always an available alternative.

@Justvchchbdb

2 жыл бұрын

I fought Margit on day one, 2-3 hours in and got wrecked, that being said I learned his attack patterns and adjusted accordingly, beat him on the second try on the next day right after starting the game

@raziel3099

2 жыл бұрын

I used an npc summon at the door and jellyfish to fight him. I had actually done , most likely, the entire first continent before i got to him which was 8 hours of playtime. Got very strong and beat him first try. piece of cake.

Seeing Asmongolds growth from the screaming frustrated rage at souls the first time he played one to this level of understanding and mindset is honestly great.

@sh-theel

2 жыл бұрын

i havent watched him in ages , im impressed with his change, keep it up

@jimz1024

2 жыл бұрын

This

@GenuineA-HOLE

2 жыл бұрын

I whole heartedly think that him talking about filters is stupid. He literally is just saying that the game should be more player friendly when it was never meant to be a friendly game. Along with that the tutorial that you get in the beginning is full proof except to those who don’t read or go there. Your first boss is literally a cake walk. You play you learn.

@zel9061

2 жыл бұрын

@@GenuineA-HOLE I was persistent to beat the first boss without summons or help. People don't understand that in a souls game, you need to get good, or you'll be a detriment to everyone who helps you or you try to help. Like, it's ok to suck. It's ok to get your butt handed to you multiple times. It's going to be hard, but people rage and just start cheesing bosses or ragging on Twitter or reddit instead of making actual progress. This has been a problem way before elden ring

@GenuineA-HOLE

2 жыл бұрын

@@zel9061 yeah that is true but at the same time. This game blew up bigger than anyone of their other games. And with little kids all the way to old people playing it , it has a big community now. I just don’t understand why perfect the souls formula and then completely break it down piece by piece.

Yeah I remember this. I never did any of the side quests or side bosses I just went straight into the mains. I didn’t even know you can upgrade weapons till I got to fire giant

This was my first souls game and I beat Margot first time not because I'm good but because I spent a few hours exploring the map before playing the games main quest therefore i had good loot and enough souls to level up to a decent level

I love that some people are hype train bandwagoning this game and then are mad cus its complicated and unforgiving in some instances. Its a dark souls game, which has a mythology around it of being hard and unforgiving. Im sure everyone who is playing it has heard of how hard the game will or should be. Complaining about something you know before you go in is just looking for an excuse.

@ryanstanley7221

2 жыл бұрын

Dude right? People just want easy mode games

@darrellgainer6966

2 жыл бұрын

@@JohnDavidSullivan not to be mean but that’s still your problem from software is known to be hard

@JohnDavidSullivan

2 жыл бұрын

@Adrian Shephard (and darrell) I deleted my comment because I realised it sounded wrong (like an excuse) and I didn't want people to come after me in the comments. So thanks. what I meant to say was how my HFA affects me - I'm just not good at losing and I lose patience. I accept that's my problem and I need to deal with that. I don't generally suck at games, but I do lose my cool easily. I know From Software's games are hard - I just was a bit optimistic than perhaps I should have been - and I guess that is also on me. will have another go when I've calmed down

@Iamkrogan07

2 жыл бұрын

Soulsborne don’t forget bloodborne but yep I agree

@darrellgainer6966

2 жыл бұрын

@@JohnDavidSullivan oh ok I understand where you coming from

When I beat Margit, I felt like it was equivalent to walking into the dancer fight accidentally on your first run

@ArthaxtaDaVince777

2 жыл бұрын

Margit and Scion were so strong, they felt like a mid-end game dark souls boss.

@elpsykoongro5379

2 жыл бұрын

At least you didn’t got teleported to the zone full of toxic waste and a mine in which there is a boss that kills you in a hit at base level

@Creedio90

2 жыл бұрын

new to the souls series i see

@mikeshy6456

2 жыл бұрын

@@elpsykoongro5379 I couldn’t stop smiling when that happened, I love the fact that I got got, it really felt like the game saying “look how far you have to go”

@guazazqui788

2 жыл бұрын

@@pneumonoultramicroscopicsi4065 Dancer was always easy for me. Margit and especially Godrick were significantly harder for me for sure. Delayed attacks are my downfall

So far I'm having trouble with the Godskin Apostle. The guy is super fast and hits super hard. Dodging him without the Bloodhound step is very difficult.

@justin6021

Жыл бұрын

The Godskin Apostle in the Caelid Divine Tower Basement legit took me a day (4 hours-ish) to beat. I learned there that I wasn't any good at Elden Ring. That boss punished me for constantly rolling backwards being over-reliant on summons and just not being good enough at the game in general. It made me think of the game differently.

@rebal180

Жыл бұрын

@@justin6021 It took me days to beat the one on the hill. I always got taken out in the 2nd phase. Because in the 2nd phase he would use black fire in his moves. I have a tendency to give up after getting killed so many times and then I find myself coming up with convoluted strategies to cheese the boss.

@justin6021

Жыл бұрын

@@rebal180 phase 2 is brutal. stretchy mfer has no mercy.

14:24 I agree. both Gael and Isshin are late game fights, pretty rewarding to learn, fair, and you get there when you are completely worthy of being there. also respect for Asmongold for getting to the end of sekiro I have to watch his playthrough

I've just today finished helping people with the boss, took like 1 hour and among lots of failures helped 5 people beat the boss. I highly recommend helping atleast one person beat it after you do, so we get more people past that hurdle. As I've stated in other comments, I personally don't believe it's such a big issue, but I did it just in case I'm wrong, because I'm not THAT convinced of myself. Will propably return to help more later once my build is further along, if I don't outlevel the people trying to beat the boss too much

@falsetheory5818

2 жыл бұрын

I love doing that in these games.

@benturner3458

2 жыл бұрын

Lucky for you. I can't even fkng get online on the fromsoft servers. Been offline since I got it

@Budd631

2 жыл бұрын

But you shouldn’t have to summon anyone. That’s why this doesn’t feel rewarding. I didn’t summon with a pure melee build and called the wolves in once. It’s really rough and I feel like I got lucky. The second boss I had to summon and I’ve never summoned in these games ever. Feels like they made it so You almost have to summon. Idk

@wsross3178

2 жыл бұрын

@@benturner3458 i just defeat the first story boss today. Personally it would be very hard to do that without phantom & npc summon.

@benturner3458

2 жыл бұрын

@@wsross3178 oh margit, I haven't even gone anywhere near there yet 😂. Just running around farming runes and building up my dex so I can use the twinblade. What class you running? I should have gone wretch but I went confessor in the end and just upped my vigor to 20 so I didn't get paddled every time I took a boss on 😂

I find that whether someone likes open world games or not depends a lot on whether they find exploration to be enjoyable in itself. A lot of people don't and just see roaming around looking for things as being a waste of time, they just want the game to put the content directly in front of them.

@absolutelybrokengaming6147

2 жыл бұрын

@@solblackguy both of these statements are so dang true, some people don't have patience but with a game like Elden Ring, literally rarely will you just be in an area with nothing but something like DW9 has just a massive space with almost nothing in it.

@robertedwards5553

2 жыл бұрын

I absolutely love open worlds! This game is absolutely trash. Horrible graffics expected on ps3 NOT NEXT GEN!! I am a die hard Souls fan bit this is trash AF! Why is there so much hype for this?

@absolutelybrokengaming6147

2 жыл бұрын

@@robertedwards5553 What's trash about it? I've seen this game in as low as 1080p having better graphics than most PS4/Xbone titles out today. And equally as good as most Next gen and PC titles coming out today. If you truly are a diehard fan then as a fellow diehard fan can you explain better what you didn't like about it?

@williepeterson3318

2 жыл бұрын

@@robertedwards5553 in your opinion

@Alex07359

2 жыл бұрын

@@robertedwards5553 Nice bait kid, you clearly haven't played a second of it lmaooo

Torrente helps a lot in exploration for pick good items, find church for buff heal, find seeds, and avoid hard fights. In my first run i fight too early Margit... he gave me some work, but it was beatable. He is a boss that makes you actually need soulslike fundamentals to kill him. I think it's an excellent initial boss. But if I were to play again I would go after healing buffs and better items before.

I just started playing this and it’s great but I have no clue, where to go, what to do. Ugh.

@corycosta1818

2 жыл бұрын

That's kinda the point lol so much to do. Just follow the yellow line coming off of the grace sights. They point in the general direction you need to go to progress the main story

I love watching him freak out. It was a blow to his ego lol. Thought just because he's good at shooting type games, he'd be good at every game. Humbled him indeed.

@badreedinedjellali1328

2 жыл бұрын

good at shoting games the guy just keep dying in apkes he sucks

@user-fy3nf3lg2j

2 жыл бұрын

Apex ego players r the fukn worst

@Ashleydc29

2 жыл бұрын

That's humbled? Damn

@djbreal87

2 жыл бұрын

A friend of mind doesnt like these types of games. They arent for everyone. I understand his frustrating.

@supergreatoli2

2 жыл бұрын

I don’t think that “him thinking that he would be good at the game” is the reason why he kept getting mad. From the footage I’ve seen, I think he actually was pretty good at rolling and dodging attacks, so to speak, good at the game. I think the reason why is because he was very under-levelled and under-equipped, and at that level, you need to really memorise every move including patterns in the boss’ behaviour, which will inevitably take a long time since you can’t afford to make many mistakes at all… I haven’t seen him say that the game was bad anywhere as well.

When you explained how you need to come back to a game, after a few days, was exactly what happened to me with this game. Did a LOT better the second time around 👌

@Gandalfmandalf

2 жыл бұрын

I remember being a kid and just getting wrecked all afternoon on a boss. Coming back 2 days later end beating it first try. Game fatigue is a thing.

@MrRafagigapr

2 жыл бұрын

It is very important and this is actually scientifically proven that after doing something several times and then sleeping your brain will naturally memorize the pattern of actions you did and make you do things instinctively without even thinking too much about them, it's what people call playing by feel, souls like games are best enjoyed this way play for a bit get stuck for a while come back next day and repeat until you end the game

@icandodgebullets7869

2 жыл бұрын

Same thing here when it came to beating Sigrun in God of War

In Elden Ring the 1st main story boss is not the actual easy learning tutorial/beginner learning boss. It's the Cave in the 1st area with the Beastman of Ferrum Azzula. Your literally as a brand new player supposed to get the horse then explore & find some gear/dungeons to practice & learn fighting tactics. If your having difficulty in a dungeon take a break/area explore, practice against specific enemies more, & slowly gain runes People take the game too seriously or intentionally make it harder for themselves whether accidentally or intentionally/subconsciously. Just have fun, nobody is forcing you to do anything... who cares if you take months to beat the game. Its your story & adventure do it your way.

@cryingcat1823

2 ай бұрын

having fun is different for everyone some people don’t wanna roam around doing jack shit not getting jack shit l, the world empty asf. i’d rather play fucking uno

@nicholasgogel5606

2 ай бұрын

@@cryingcat1823 it’s literally the boss you fight before meeting Patches… which is of utmost importance for getting emotes for MP

This was my first FromSoft game (I did get to the skeleton archer bridge in DS1 and quit) but this game has been awesome.

I beat the second main dungeon and Margit was the hardest required boss so far. If your stuck on him just do other stuff then come back when your stronger. He’s meant to encourage the player to not brute force their way through.

@andrewohara2146

2 жыл бұрын

The uchigatana can be found (if ur not on samurai build) before fighting him, and the bleed literally takes 1/5 of his health per tic. So yeah for experienced souls players I feel like it’s super easy, just challenging to learn the new mechanics. But for new souls players, expecting the new form of games made today where it’s easy for everyone to play, elden ring is gonna punish tf out of people

@moneyarr

2 жыл бұрын

Just parry him scrub

@LeuvisTheLynx

2 жыл бұрын

the commend above you said he kept going and fighting him for about 6-7 hours depsite dying alot and being low leveled he kept going and defeated it...

@Levixne

2 жыл бұрын

i fucked Margit up with Carian slicer alone at like level 20ish, but godrick was straight up impossible for me, I left and came back with a laser and fucking erased him

@LeuvisTheLynx

2 жыл бұрын

@@Levixne Nice! You control what you wanna do and how you want to approach everything. Which is really fucken amazing.

I I don’t buy this game expecting to be able to go through the game and never die in one go. I love how hard it is. I like being lost and just finding new things. This game is great.

@alekesam

2 жыл бұрын

I'll take high difficulty if the gameplay isn't repetitive. How's the combat in this game? Fighting styles etc. Like are there multiple builds to play in diff playthroughs?

@mingQWERTY

2 жыл бұрын

@@alekesam Unfortunately you can't really change builds throughout one playthrough, well, at least not until like late-mid game. You have to get an idea of which build you want to do. However Elden Ring differs from the rest of Soulsborne as there are so many more options now.

@alekesam

2 жыл бұрын

@@mingQWERTY Yeah that's what I meant. Are there enough builds to warrant playing the game multiple times? Like one build for one playthru and a completely different build for another playthru.

@mingQWERTY

2 жыл бұрын

@@alekesam Yes. You can go with a full strength build, a full dex build, a quality build with those 2 or a tank for melee. If you want casters you can go full int or fai or both I believe. But the best part is that unlike DS3 you can finally do a caster-melee hybrid build. Strength + faith for example and etc. If you are more of a weapon guy there are even varieties of weapon from daggers to bleed weapons to colossal greatswords

@alekesam

2 жыл бұрын

@@mingQWERTY Oooooouuuuuu...yeah, that's what I'm talking about! Thanks! I'll give any OW game a chance, especially if it has character create, I just needed to know what the gameplay is like.

I don't get why someone would go straight for Stormveil when the first thing you see when you leave the starting area is this massive majestic landscape

I think the issue with Margit is that the game bamboozles you into rushing straight for him. One of the first things you're told by npcs is to follow the grace guidance and the first ones you find point right at him. I eventually realized that Stormveil was just harder than my character could handle yet and that it was a skeletons from dark souls 1 moment, but I don't think it's my fault that the game aimed me at Margit instead of south where you're really should be going first.

@TacticalDingus

Жыл бұрын

Yeah you do run into him pretty quick if that's your main objective. He beat my ass plenty of times. I worked my way south and did a lot of content and came back. Got the warewolf 2h sword, leveled on the giants in east limgrave. Days later I came back and beat his ass after a few trys was very rewarding

@jeremybot1

6 ай бұрын

necro but that's entirely the point. you're told grace can lead you to your death by Varre, and upon hitting that wall the game is indirectly telling you to explore. same lesson the tree sentinel teaches

Havnt played Elden Ring, but from what I’ve seen of gameplay, it’s exactly what everyone should have expected. Not sure why some people are so surprised pikachu about it

@Lutasiren

2 жыл бұрын

TRUE, 10/10 from media, 60% positive from players is exactly what everyone should expect in this modern age of gaming.

@fakeblue8985

2 жыл бұрын

@Juan yet people are like “hurr durr it’s just like cyberpunk”

@matguimond92

2 жыл бұрын

@@fakeblue8985 oh really can I toggle my characters nips on and off in the customization menu?

@Lutasiren

2 жыл бұрын

@Juan so did cyberpunk reviewers, and so did cd project red. Besides, you are saying as if the game runs perfectly on ps5.

@haruhirogrimgar6047

2 жыл бұрын

@Juan Or just don't waste time in an open world game and play a set of unique tailored experiences.

Elden Ring is my first experience with a soul-like game and honestly I'm loving every second of it. I think having the open world is what attracted me more to the games as opposed to the routes of the other souls games. It feels great to be able to explore and take drastically different choices than most other players

@Johnny.bar99

2 жыл бұрын

Welcome to Hell...I mean community.. :)

@dribblepi5554

2 жыл бұрын

Welcome but you need to really try dark souls :)

@manymaria1115

2 жыл бұрын

Play Bloodborne

@KILLERMAIN-hf2vn

2 жыл бұрын

Ive played all ds games and love getting my ass handed .i was ds1 vet and can solo ds2 and bloodborn but sekrio wont lie hardest one. Ever played.I cant even beat frist boss lmao . then in elden ring just been roaming around and haveing fun geting stuff and seeing sercets I bet some dont know. like little guy that turn into 30 foot were wolf when attack him and 1 hit kill ur ass lol no joke I see this little guy and like oh just another day in paridise then boom I run and did like wtf.

@mml1426

2 жыл бұрын

It’s total garbage compared to Ghost of Tsushima

Using upgraded Spirit ashes has helped me a ton with bosses

For new players who have difficulties fighting Margit, go find Patches and buy Margit shackle from him. It helps A LOT for me

This is my first souls game ever, I am already hooked. Every boss fight victory feels like I won the lottery, game is hard but I’m getting better as time goes on

@aeriagloris4211

2 жыл бұрын

When you're done please go play dark souls 3, you'll thank me

@gobble-gumlord1146

2 жыл бұрын

@@aeriagloris4211 dark souls 3 and blood borne are fire af

@nathanklemick8351

2 жыл бұрын

It saddens me that this is people's first souls game :( you have missed out on some amazing souls games.

@-TonytheArtist

2 жыл бұрын

@@nathanklemick8351 he can just go back and play them

@RecluseBootsy

2 жыл бұрын

In the same boat. And i'm loving being without a paddle. 🤣

Souls game have always rewarded you for going out of your way to explore, Elden Ring just cranks it up to 100 and honestly I'm here for it. Like there are so many Summonings or Ashes of War that you can get before Margit that make that fight so much easier and you really just need to be thorough with your exploration

@darkdeath5550

2 жыл бұрын

I also don't get the "first boss" argument. He is a potential first story MAIN boss who I kicked in the puss first time, without using his key item. He is hard in the sense he has a varied move set, but he isn't a first boss, there are a dozen bosses, hell, I stumbled onto the dragon early, and triggered the trap early, fighting my way thru a higher level area, fighting enemies and bosses, getting stuff. My exploration was rewarded, my inquisition was rewarded, even my multitude of deaths were rewarded by learning move sets of dragons early on. When I came back after 20 hours of exploring and being wowed by the world, I found him, kicked his ass, and did the same for the rest of the area. I enjoyed my deaths, and learned from them, and I don't think some people are, they're just running into a brick wall, wondering why they aren't busting thru like an action hero.

@ayylmao578

2 жыл бұрын

yeah, it’s really weird. You can make Margit cake if you get all the golden seeds in limgrave and upgrade your weapons and level a bit. That’s what the tree sentinel is supposed to teach you.

@aikidodude05

2 жыл бұрын

the thing is you dont really need to explore ether I beat Margit with just the wolfs and levels that i had ground off the enemy's in the entrance gate. hell the only seed I had was the starting gift and 9 levels. margit has no chill but the problem is you have all these streamers who have not really played a souls game before and they don't take the time to play how you need to play a souls game which is a combination of greedy and patient. I walked up got the floor wiped with my face. I instantly started throwing down my summon mark so that i could study the boss and see how other players were approaching it and with out risk to myself they get a person to help and I get a free study. In the end it only took me maybe 10 tries.

@otakufro2851

2 жыл бұрын

@@darkdeath5550 It's cause ppl want to play it like a regular rpg and want to ignore that it's not only a Soulsborne but also open world, you're meant to lose to Margit and than take a step back and explore the world and no matter what class you play you will find something that makes that fight and every fight moving forward easier and after exploring more I realized there was so much stuff I could've grabbed early that would've made him and Godrick easier

@otakufro2851

2 жыл бұрын

@@aikidodude05 Honestly I think it's so dumb that some people are hell bent on not using the summons, sure they are decent for agro but most of the damage is still coming from you and if you pick the wrong summoning you can still get destroyed by these bosses

1:00 I was literally tilting because everything is really hidden, saw a video about the secret boss in the godrick castle, and I was, "Oh, then if I jump to this wall, only accesible from this platform, it means there should be something no?" and there was something.

One of my favorite things is to roam and discover and just enjoy the beauty of the map. That's why peoplelike games like things like Skyrim, Days Gone, fallout etc. To immerse yourself in the open world, detach from reality and relax.

I killed 4 easier bosses before finally downing Margit, but it was a nice experience. I still have the locations of 2 other bosses that I've found and not even attempted yet as well, and I'm still exploring the castle after Margit right now.

@FrenziedmerchantisaHomo

2 жыл бұрын

Nice man that's what I did as well downed a couple of bosses leveled up explored these people complaing are fools that expect the same thing everytime

@TheGhostRonin

2 жыл бұрын

Nice Behemoth pfp

@shh2936

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah same. If anything , I thought the tree sentinel was also incredibly hard. But the bosses in those little dungeon warhead were really fair. Specifically the pumpkin head was very easy if you use the weapon art. This game definitely rewards exploration thereby forcing you go look around before fighting someone.

@7mriwantlightning710

2 жыл бұрын

I killed 6 bosses so far. The one at the bottom of the map. That gives the grafed sword was a really fun fight

@ahrifox2592

2 жыл бұрын

I beat that boss at only lvl of 19 after like hr run fighting him

I feel like elden ring is the true vision of what from software wanted to give us. It feels like a true adventure. People don't take the time to explore, get stronger and get better gear which is why they rage quit. I beat margin on my second attempt because I took a second back and decided I'd get stronger

@joshaqy

2 жыл бұрын

Which would be sad bcos they really threw level design out the window for this one

@parenthesiss

2 жыл бұрын

@@joshaqy that’s the thing, it’s made by the same company but it’s not trying to be bloodborne or dark souls it’s an open world game there isn’t a main focus on level design. The environment is beautiful and complex but the map can’t be described as levels because it’s open world, and you can go anywhere at any time.

@Salmon_Toastie

2 жыл бұрын

@@parenthesiss However the legacy dungeons are basically soul levels with how big they are. The catacombs and mines are the exact same assets wise but they each have a different thing going on.

@TheTideKing004

2 жыл бұрын

@@joshaqy each portion of the map beyond limgrave is very different. You just can't see the forest for the trees so to speak because of its open world nature. The best tip I could give anyone playing this is that when your told to go to stormveil go there and fight margit to gauge his strength, then go explore the starting region you are in and gather your strength until you feel like your confident in your ability to get past him comfortably because Godfrey will stomp you if you are stagnant with your growth. There are 20 bosses you can face before you even get to stormveil Castle so you should find them and do them first.

@adrianks47

2 жыл бұрын

I think that's the complaint here. The game tells you to go straight to margit, when instead you should be doing other stuff first. The game should have just let you stumble upon margit by sheer exploration instead of having an arrow on the map pointing at him.

I found it better then dealing with a bunch of hud shit.

I never played the Souls series but I love the challenge and the old school back to actually travel explore and enjoy the beauty of the work put into the maps

@zachbraxton1997

2 жыл бұрын

How does it compare to Oblivion?

I like how the first few bosses (from the Tree Guardian to Margit) teach players that its okay to struggle, die, and avoid bosses and to leave those to get stronger and better at the game first. Elden ring is the first souls game that I've put more than 30 minutes into so far and even I realized that if I can't win yet it's my fault, I either need to improve personally or level my character/gear.

@oliverjoseph3169

2 жыл бұрын

I think it’s amazing that I can go off and grind runes and levels come back and destroy the bosses in the caves or the main bosses. I’m finding the grind so enjoyable just go and participate in some battles and level up

@roxxibraxo937

2 жыл бұрын

Markipliar the only reason I made this live stream is for the soul purpose of kicking that stupid horses ass

@Oldsul

2 жыл бұрын

Dark Souls vet & I definitely snuck past the Tree Guardian till I was a lil more beefed up lmao

@dandreboode7685

2 жыл бұрын

I will literally try to fight anything if I see it in any souls game and elden ring if I can't do it after a couple tries I go explore always end up finding stuff that helps

@Rawnchie14

2 жыл бұрын

Yea the mini bosses are nice, teaching mechanics at pace, but unless you're a patient or determined gamer - you're probably going to avoid instead of conquering mini bosses, which if you beat, provide you with more resources to make the game easier.

I came into this game having never played a souls game. I realized how crazy hard this game was almost immediately. The learning difficulty is through the roof and I probably threw myself at bosses 50-100 times. But I’ve gotten better, I’ve learned mechanics, and I didn’t give up (I’m not wasting $60). I went and killed a bunch of secondary bosses and leveled up a shit ton to fight margit. I was dying all the time but now that I know how to play, it’s easier and I’m having a shitload of fun. I now have like 30 hours

@jdennis867

2 жыл бұрын

margit is doable even if u didn't grind lv. i think i was under lv 20 when i fought him. took me 5 hrs to beat him but at least i did it. but for reference i played all soul games except dark soul 2, i play seikiro, bloodborn and nioh as well.

@DanielCosta-zp6jl

2 жыл бұрын

@@jdennis867 you are a veteran that makes all difference, your brain is train to complex learning challenges thanks to previous games.

@jdennis867

2 жыл бұрын

@@DanielCosta-zp6jl fair enough. I beat all of those in a single yr (2018). Sekiro was my first fromsoftware game and after I had a hell of a time beating it, I became addicted to hard games so I went back to play the other games

@cyan_2169

2 жыл бұрын

I feel you. I ended up fighting Margit at level 16 with the first greatsword you find but it took me forever to beat. Had fun the whole time though.

@asparagusoffice

2 жыл бұрын

the lack of a "I'm not wasting $60" mindset is holding a lot of people back here

"I hate it, because you have to roam around and discover things! Oh, you said it's an open world game? Umm... What's an open world game??"

understandable, i was overwhelmed when first playing bloodoborne. i was in the first area then stopped for a year until returning.

100% agree with you that there is already an easy mode built into the game through mechanics, you learn to use different things to make it easier or harder for yourself, which is really good game design instead of bloating health pools and damage numbers with different difficulty options

@fudgepacker6990

2 жыл бұрын

Shuddup who asked

@fig513

2 жыл бұрын

@@fudgepacker6990 I am the one who asked.

@draknordragor4778

2 жыл бұрын

@@fudgepacker6990 I am the one who asked.

@mr.senpai4679

2 жыл бұрын

@@fig513 I also, asked put er there brother 🤚

@wayfa13

2 жыл бұрын

@@fudgepacker6990 I did, thanks for asking

Being able to explore the open world is a genius way to let new players and casuals to build their characters to a point where they can take the main bosses on. It makes the game a lot more accessible in a smarter way than just throwing in a gaming journalist mode in that just fudges the game's numbers a bit.

@nathantower5565

2 жыл бұрын

The biggest game design flaw is that they sit there and tell you to go to bosses you have no chance of beating. There's no series of bosses that get harder over time that lead up to the important bosses. Instead of the general formula which would still be completely usable in the open world they threw it all away and made a wander fest that a ton of people don't like.

@mello6311

2 жыл бұрын

@@nathantower5565 What are you talking about dude? You're making it sound like the game gets in your face and says "GO FIGHT THE MAIN BOSS YOU COWARD DO IT NOW RIGHT AT THE BEGINNING" the game gives you an almost missable way of telling you where to go if you want to take on the main bosses. Key word being *if* you want to. The game has tons of bosses littered around that vary in difficulty and you can tell how difficult a boss will be based on the mobs surrounding it. It's not some mystery to figure out how bosses work. Can you fight all the mobs leading up to a boss relatively easily with little to no health loss? Then you're gonna be able to handle the boss. Is there some grinding if you want to be able to fight bosses properly and take them on without getting your shit pushed in on 2 seconds? Yea, but the other games had that too. But you can easily wipe the first 3 or so side bosses you can encounter with starting gear and skills, (aside from Tree Sentinel) if you have the gameplay down. As for the "wander fest a ton of people don't like" I have hardly seen anyone complain about the open world aspect, considering you can't move 5 feet in any direction a majority of the time without bumping into enemies. Sure sometimes there are areas where there isn't a whole lot going on but I guarantee if they did what you wanted and placed enemies every few feet like the og games, people would hate it far more than you're claiming cuz it would be totally unfair and a slog.

@BillClinton228

2 жыл бұрын

I'm an edgy teenager and the hardest thing I've ever had to do is convince my mommy to buy me a PS5... so I only play Souls games because I like bragging to my friends that I beat a difficult boss which means I'm better than them.

@nathantower5565

2 жыл бұрын

@@mello6311 I'm not even gonna read half that rage paragraph since you're immediately wrong off the bat. The game literally points you at Margit and the entire path there is filled with slightly stronger tutorial enemies so it's pretty clear that's what you're supposed to do especially since deviating runs you straight into enemies way harder than the ones on the path to Margit.

@mello6311

2 жыл бұрын

@@nathantower5565 If you aren't even gonna bother reading the whole thing and saying I'm raging why bother responding tho? Like dude, to even get to Stormveil Castle you have to go through the Gate that's behind the big enemy camp and there's a giant that jumps down along with archers that can wreck you. It's a pretty obvious way of the game saying "If you can't beat these guys you aren't gonna make it past here." Now of course you can run past and avoid them but at that point that's the player's fault for ignoring such a potent warning. But idek why I bothered typing this out since you're just gonna claim I'm raging again and not read it.

These "difficulty slider" things in ER aren't a genius because the easy mode doesn't make a certain gameplay style easier to execute or more forgiving, instead it forces people to apply a different style that might be unfit and unfun for them and circumvents the challenges of the fights entirely, rather than helping you overcome them. Do you beat the fight standing there and spamming magic, barely interacting with the melee combat system? Yes. But is that fun for a melee build? To me, no.

My only real complaint is that you have to look up everything if you want to understand what is happening and where to find the next boss

i quite agree with asmon in this, if you never really experienced these type of grindy, rpg, open world games you probably wont really enjoy it becouse you get overwhelmed with everything

@btchiaintkidding7837

2 жыл бұрын

This is the equivalent of hating spice then going to an indian restaurent ordering curry and being mad cuz it was too spicy lmao

@R3gga3SharkYT

2 жыл бұрын

same with all games these days people get hyped for something the game never was to begin with then hoes mad

@Vinclum

2 жыл бұрын

You you're delusional if you think Elden Ring does a god job being an open world game. It does almost everything wrong that this genre needs to be enjoyable.

@NobleVagabond2552

2 жыл бұрын

@@Vinclum are you trolling or just really stupid?

@LiveLXStudios

2 жыл бұрын

Alternatively, people who are used to it ignore the elements that make it not fun. In the same way WoW still has people playing daily. Goes both ways.

Honestly I really enjoy having the option to come back to a boss later when you’re ready. I remember getting my ass handed to me the first few times I took on margit, but after getting some levels up and upgrading my weapons more I beat him on my 2nd attempt, it felt amazing.

@spiritassassin3436

2 жыл бұрын

I have a question. Ive played hard games like god of war on GMGOW difficulty is this like the same skill level of that

@cherryrook8684

2 жыл бұрын

@@spiritassassin3436 Its less about combos than gow imo but more about learning the deeper combat mechanics (like recognizing openings and when to be defensive) so in a sense i suppose it is in a similar skill category

@GangsterFrankensteinComputer

2 жыл бұрын

The game really has the zero to hero stuff nailed. When you start off the first troll is crazy difficult, then 10 hours in you can take on multiple trolls at once and come out on top.

I think I was level 72 when I beat Margot to access Stormveil. I played an astrologer. Online guides kept saying to put points in intelligence and mind. I had no idea I was supposed to put points in vigor too.

The motion sickness is what hurts. Legit get nauseous and headaches even hours after playing. I really enjoy the game so it sucks that i can play as much as id like. Also the frame rate drops on ps5 is disappointing.

I explored for hours after trying Margit for like an hour and found about 30 different sites of grace and beat around 8 mini bosses before fighting Margit again and gotta say, totally worth it.

@Mink0twink

2 жыл бұрын

Souls games deliberately punish inexperienced players who try to rush and it is halarious to watch it in real time on twitch lol

@xSephironx

2 жыл бұрын

Feels great to grind in this game. There's so much enemy and dungeon variety. It's almost like playing some sick fucks dungeons and dragons campaign

@germanrud9904

2 жыл бұрын

I did all that and still can't beat him. He chains 10+ hit combos, can't dodge, can't block, unblockable heat seeking daggers. Ridiculous.

@Mink0twink

2 жыл бұрын

@@germanrud9904 either level up more and come back (drop 5 - 10 more points in health) or use more summons. I beat him on my fifth try I think with summons after understanding his move set

@619Gotenks

2 жыл бұрын

@@germanrud9904 yeah you can grab the NPC summon outside the door and the jellyfish ashes work really well, it'll keep shooting poison, just try to balance aggro between you and the NPC and learn his movements :) or if you're on Xbox, just make a post in the game group saying you're looking for help

I can relate to getting overwhelmed. Sometimes I’ll start a game over as well, because knowing everything about the parts I’ve already done is oddly comforting

@bruser7770

2 жыл бұрын

In the words of all fromsoftware game enjoyers and the lords of old “ get good scrub”

@nealnelson6998

2 жыл бұрын

Thats what is fun about new games tho..

@GenuineA-HOLE

2 жыл бұрын

@@bruser7770 it’s git gud

@chrisbrucculeri8988

2 жыл бұрын

I e started this game over like 5 times x thinking I’ve been missing something . Nope this game is just trash . I’m all for games being challenging . But for it to be impossible for even some hard core gamers to atleast learn and progress in it .

@chrisbrucculeri8988

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheeMonkeMan i mean I’ve kinda grown to like the game. But the unresponsive combat and difficulty of these bosses is takes away the fun of it in my opinion .I’m a level 30 and still can’t beat that Margit . 3 times now I was one hit away from killing the dam thing and it kills me which is hella sus as far as it being scripted / rigged at times hi h is definitely the case. It’s a good game but extremely overhyped. . I’m so over this first level at this point but can’t beat that dam boss . Leveling up gets hella Boring. Story is not existent for me. Have no idea what’s going on there. It’s a good game. But the hype and crazy perfect 10 reviews that it got is just ridiculous . It’s not a masterpiece . 8.5 -9 tops for me . Plenty of things keeping it from being considering a masterpiece or even near perfect .

I wonder how they would do versus version 2.

It wasn’t meant to be a filter. It was meant to push you south to level up. People just need to either watch a video about early game locations or have a level map pulled up to let them know where they’re supposed to be

These games including Elden Ring are actually very smart with how it shows the player what is feasible without forcing it on them. when exploring Limgrave you find enemies and materials that suite your level and as you move to other areas enemies become increasingly more challenging along with the rewards becoming bigger. if you go farther east and hit an enemy and barely do any damage and get alot of runes then thats a clear sign as a player that this place out of your league but it also doesn't force you to leave or block its location. this allows for player freedom while creating a natural course of progression. Having trouble with Margit? its not a filter its just a natural point to show what is waiting for you past that point in the castle. if you're barely doing damage then your weapon might need to be upgraded and you can also get more levels by fighting dungeon bosses. still need some help? well then there is always summons and co-op.

@joshuakim5240

2 жыл бұрын

Don't forget all of the suicide loot run shenanigans. If an item has a blue glow, i just rush to grab that mofo after spending my runes to die and lose basically nothing, while gaining the shiny object. It's hilarious how much strong stuff you can get like this with the infamous Caelid trap chest, including Scarlet Rot infliction tools to cheese the hell out of Margit.

@GruppeSechs

2 жыл бұрын

That's one of the things I love about Souls games, even if I'm not jumping on the hype train for Elden Ring. I hate, hate, hate the prevalence of "open world" and crafting as selling points. But yeah, I do like when games don't gatekeep content and just let you get your ass handed to you instead. It allows for risk versus reward gameplay and sequence breaking for adventurous people who just go in a direction without thinking about the pacing.

@lolspartain

2 жыл бұрын

@@GruppeSechs crafting is barely a part of this game tbf. I haven't found myself crafting anything and im like 40+ hours deep level 80 lol

@connorbraithwaite

2 жыл бұрын

every boss can be beaten while undergeared, just learn the movesets. That' s the game. The timesink is getting better mechanically at each boss; deciding to spend time getting a stronger character/better gear is just a decision you can make if you want to make the bosses easier on yourself.

@shinobi4317

2 жыл бұрын

this game tells you NOTHING of how difficult enemies are.... the grind to even have fun is rtarded, not worth 70 dollars for sure

i dont think marg is supposed to be the first boss and i know the game tells you to do that but the very first "boss" of the game is the knight in the cave you wake up in which as a subtle nod to the play telling them that they need to not take the direct path or they miss things like that which prepare you for the road ahead.

@mateomorales2129

2 жыл бұрын

Couldn’t have said it better myself. My buddy missed that weak knight basically proving it’s the players fault for missing stuff like that. Games like these are always played like “ go in the opposite way of progress “ to get better

@crazeay3800

2 жыл бұрын

I two shot that nerd lol

@joeking6972

2 жыл бұрын

Honestly this was just a bad take from him. What does he mean DS1 never had a casual filter? What the hell was Ornstein and Smough? Having a boss that acts as a "casual filter" isn't something I approve of because it makes me feel better than others it's because they force you to think and act in different ways. The recurring theme of the series has been "anti-fragility;" learning from mistakes, that which does not kill you, that kind of stuff. Margit is about persuading players to explore the optional areas and grow stronger. You're telling me that souls veterans were able to adapt to Sekiro's fucking deflection mechanics and yet not figure out that you're supposed to explore the vast open world before you in order to gain power? Sorry mate I'm just not buying it. Father Gascoigne was all about getting the player to understand that this was BLOODBORNE, not Dark Souls. The same goes for Genichiro. First bosses are meant to teach you valuable game mechanics. Not only that but I've played every souls game to date and even I've found myself taking a break from the games after rage quitting; but that's okay because it's all apart of the hero's journey. Every sports film has that part where the protagonist is at their lowest point, the belly of the whale so to speak, that just makes the return and final climax all the sweeter. From knows what they're doing and I applaud their approach to tough love. if someone quits these games permanently because of their lack of adaptability then it's their loss. From shouldn't feel the need to tailor their games for mass appeal, and why should they? Not every game is going to be right for everyone. I personally have several friends who can't play these games and that's okay. I personally LOVE Skyrim, and yet it's a game a ton of people have a burning hatred for. You can dislike a game without there being anything objectively wrong with it.

@mateomorales2129

2 жыл бұрын

@@joeking6972 absolutely agree. I love their approach in which they beat players asses until they force themselves to adapt and overcome. If the player can’t grasp the concept of exploring before story then they don’t need to be playing this game. People try to apply the same logic to every game they make when every game has been incredibly different.

@SassyMcpants

2 жыл бұрын

@@joeking6972 couldn't agree more. I really think it was a terrible take on asmonds side. I also would go so far as to say this is the easiest souls game that's released this far and I've got 16 Hours in so far. At least the early game is I certainly have met some bosses I've had to give up on and decided I'll take on later.

The invisible enemies is what kills it for me

Bro I’ve been playing for 3 day got still have the same shit from the start i can’t

Honestly, Haven't killed marget yet. First time I saw him I got clapped pretty fast, but the game does have ways to help you. Immediately discovering the circle after losing to marget is very useful. I might have given up if I had to kill marget the first time to get to the circle. After I got the hint, I cleared the catacombs, the cave with the beast guy, went east and cleared the castle and now I'm just finishing up with the giant deer boss in siofra well. I'm pretty confident that I can take marget now

@higgsbonbon

2 жыл бұрын

All I really had to do was some smithing to clap Margit faster than he vould clap me and wizboy. Obviously that means some exploration but it's the same as any souls game, you have to go out of your way to get the stuff that makes you stronger.

@MannyTheButtsmith

2 жыл бұрын

Story of my playthough so far lol, mapped the whole world, got items, net npcs, finally felt like following story "Foul tarnish- wait... That isnt my boss theme i hear"

I am actually not surprised. When I fought Margit, it took me almost an hour to realize he has baiting moves when u try to fight him close range, (I’m starting to think that the AI on these bosses are a lot smarter in Elden ring), when I was analyzing his patterns, if u dodge out of his line of sight during certain attacks, he won’t attack u with anything in his left hand, but once you hit his phase two, you have to back away because he starts using his long sword and hammer and he has great tracking/reach. It took me about an hour and some change to beat, and now I’m at Godrick and I realized I wasn’t beating him anytime soon🥲, now I’m free roaming to find stuff to level up.

@daveyjoneslocker4703

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly what he does lol. I have him down but he pulls out those combos SO much when he’s about to die

@RoninBlade-ls5ex

2 жыл бұрын

@@daveyjoneslocker4703 yeah man once I hit phase 2, the only thing I did was wait for moves I could guarantee a hit on. Most of the time I was getting 2 hits every 1-2 mins😂. But my patience beat my rage in the end.

@zaxcybits

2 жыл бұрын

The AI are definitely smarter. You try and do some cheap shit and they react and counter it

@Kalolui94

2 жыл бұрын

AN HOUR? ._.

@RoninBlade-ls5ex

2 жыл бұрын

@@Kalolui94 once I recognized the patterns it just became a waiting game of when to strike and not strike.

My issue is with how hard bosses hit for how rapid they attack with these flurries of attacks you can't dodge. dodge the first hit, their next 3 hits are so fast it hits you before you even finish your first roll's animation, they you just get stun-locked to death. even 99 vigor gives you lik 2k hp, and even then it takes bosses 2 hits to leave you with 20% hp left. this would easily be rectified if they just brought back the ability to upgrade armor for more magic/physical defense. and bosses are so spongey. fighting the last boss and not only does he have a lot of HP, but he has 2 phases (so far) that brings him another full health bar. if bosses are going to hit as hard as they do, they can't also be flinging out rapid multi hit attacks that even if you dodge you get hit by follow up attacks before your dodge animation even finishes and the player can do any further input. (mainly a lot of other bosses, some bosses actually have a reasonable attack speed)

I'm 70 hours in... and I'm done... for me the most frustrating thing is not knowing where to go or what to do... there is NO indication NONE of what you should be doing.. I've got to a point were I've cleared all the areas I can manage and now everywhere u go I get 2 hit and dead... I have no idea where u should be going or should be doing and it's exhausting. Playing for 3 hours and making ZERO progress ain't fun..

I have never played a DS game before, this is my first foree into this genre, and i love it. It's a game i never thought i'd like. This is a challenging game that does cause me to tilt from time to time, but it's still hell fun to play

@xdmemes5821

2 жыл бұрын

This is my first souls game too and now I’m planning on playing all the rest before even getting to the halfway point lol

@finalboss7956

2 жыл бұрын

Ive been gaming for 24years & Elden Rings my fave game of all time

@cubanref9670

2 жыл бұрын

Wait til you try Sekiro and Bloodborne. 🤣😂My Baptism was Bloodborne and my God was that an experience. I now own every From Software game because of it.

@iBlameRiya

2 жыл бұрын

@@xdmemes5821 ohhh boy you gonna develop every raging disorders

@angrysquirrel8816

2 жыл бұрын

Now if only they’d fix fires deadly sin….

I put 20 hours into the game running around, completely missed Margit until I watched another streamer beeline to him and proceed to get pounded for 2 hours. Yeah, hes slightly too brutal for a first boss, especially as an early heavy weapon build. Blocking smacks out your whole stamina bar, he can attack three times in your one swing, armor makes you take 60% hp a hit instead of 80% (still two hits!) I've had a lot of fun just picking some odd looking thing on the map and seeing what it is, running past anything that I can't kill quickly on my way. There are a lot of caves, dungeons, ruins, some weird puzzle towers, etc. And many of them have much more forgiving bosses that give you some interesting gear or magic or upgrade materials. I'll tackle Margit again when I feel like it. It's kind of like back in DS1 where you just blitzed past enemies just to get a little more info and make more progress towards the next bonfire. Or heading another direction because you realize the cave full of reanimating skeletons is too difficult after just starting the game.

@morfigasoulslayer

2 жыл бұрын

Margit is fucking horrible, I played bloodbourne and ds1 and barely died on any bosses, except for blood starved beast and the 1st hunter. This guy had me completely beatdown for a while but then I explored got other stuff, and beat him 3rd try, I used spirit summon and a bleed weapon, but otherwise I wouldnt have the damage since the window to dps is really short.

@kylehart8829

2 жыл бұрын

Blocking is definitely viable against Margit, but just like in every souls game it's nowhere near necessary. Just dodge and punish until he dies, he's decently hard but still very manageable even with a +0 weapon.

@redxakuma

2 жыл бұрын

I’m pretty sure your suppose to go explore first because I got to level 15 after 6 hours with a katana I got to him and it only took 2 try’s. So must only be a problem with people under a few hours and not leveled

@goated4508

2 жыл бұрын

Well said man, I’ve been neglecting the world around me in favour of trying to force my way through to the story, and obviously I kept dying, not enough health or damage output was ruining me. But I had barely even done anything in limgrave!

@Lavaman_E89

2 жыл бұрын

I really haven't struggled with many bosses in the series overall, but Margit kicked my ass for some reason. Felt fantastic to beat him though

Can someone pls genuinely answer my question? I’m lvl 150 with a pretty good bleed build. Why is that whenever I duel online with other players I just get one shot every single time? I beat a lot of the hard bosses and I’m not a bad player I know how to dodge and everything. But for some reason every hit I make gives players like .01 damage and I always get 1 hit ko’d. Are people cheating or are they just mostly like lvl 250 and up? I’m confused and feel like I’m wasting my time. I never have fun dueling because I can’t even last 1 second in a fight. It feels a bit unfair and no fun at all.

I disagree true ego is when people choose to hate the game just because they don't want to put effort into it. Call of duty doesn't have a filter loook what happened to it, assassin's creed doesn't have a filter and I fell asleep while playing it. Not having filters u risk the game becoming lame, it's better to target a specific audience, and open a pathway for casuals to get gud at the game. Summons in Elden Ring easy mode

i wasn’t even looking for margit until i decided to actually progress the game. i’m mostly shocked that people somehow managed to tunnel vision so hard that they didn’t even think of exploring the massive world all around them. there are ruins and shit every 5 steps, it’s so weird to me.

@patprem923

2 жыл бұрын

i think the other thing about it is that even if you dont tunnel vision and u explore there’s still no direction for what u should do (lvl farming, combat) especially for the difficulty. The game at least needs teach u SOMETHING. it gives u practically nothing

@Highs009

2 жыл бұрын

@@patprem923 arent all souls games like that? or are you to used to open world games with markers that tell you where to go and what to do.

@patprem923

2 жыл бұрын

@@Highs009 yea im used to different open world games but never played souls before. i dont mind the difficulty but in that difficulty the game should at the very least teach you how to play the game. thats just a staple in any kind of game design. for example in sekiro they showed u how to traverse through the game by the time you reached the final boss you literally knew how to use the different skills and parrying etc etc to fight the boss. u were prepared. this game doesnt even do the bare minimum. just drops you in the middle of the map and tells you to do the main story quest. like thats just plain and simple poor game design. no other way about it

@ecak6124

2 жыл бұрын

@@patprem923 nah being drop and do whatever is the best a game developer can offer

@krazysamurai

2 жыл бұрын

@@patprem923 even the beloved BOTW doesnt do much except teach the controls and say "destroy ganon" and that is regarded by many as one of the best games of all time. why is elden ring treated differently, just because its in the dark souls style?

"Margit is too hard of a first boss" and here I am fighting the Crucible Knight before I even got to Margit getting my ass blasted for 3 hours lmao

@george_denbrough

2 жыл бұрын

Is that the fuck on the horse at the bridge? If so fuck that guy

@crazeay3800

2 жыл бұрын

Crucible knight is harder

@GeimerisNeZaidejas

2 жыл бұрын

i just killed Margit as my second boss after 3 hours of pain.. it. was. pain. used only wolves ashes, nothing else

@TheDapperDragon

2 жыл бұрын

Or if you got the key like a chad, you found that fucking THING at the bottom of the starting area and got absolutely demolished. Welcome to Fromsoft kids, it's not for the feint of heart, but you can do it.

@heizi-lyh

2 жыл бұрын

I beat Margit on second try. Crucible Knight killed me at least 30 times......

I’ve never played a dark souls game in my life. Elden ring was the first for me. The world gives you the tools to utilize and get better. If you can’t do something, level up. Go back and try. Once I grasped how the game works it became a lot more easier to play. Taking the time to explore, explore caves, get smithing stones, upgrade your weapons. Upgrading and leveling up is a big deal. I love the game. The learning curve was there. But once you get it, it’s a whole different kind of game and very enjoyable.

Hey i know im 1 month late but in case you still watch The comments or If someone else is kind and replies to my question im about to ask. If I have never played a 3d souls like game but i have played other 2d (maybe 3d i dont remember) (i have played like hollow knight and cuphead and completed them both.) should i jump into Elden ring? I really enjoy games with Bosses and even some open worlds game but The only game that is considered souls like game that i have played is hollow knight. Thank you If you took your time to read this and I hope 2022 Will be your year.