Why No FRIA in my Backyard?

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  • @747Max
    @747Max9 ай бұрын

    Tim, WELL DONE! This is the most level headed, fair and accurate review of the rules I've ever seen from the model A/C community. As full scale pilots we know that change from the FAA is inevitable and I'm sure to modelers that were virtually unregulated it has come as a shock. Most reviewers fill their videos with "the sky is falling" or abject fear-mongering about what the FAA is up to. They rarely make the connection that the FAA is implementing a Congressional mandate. I believe some additional motive for the FAA to encourage/support/mandate the community based organizations is to have a point of contact to be able to shut down all airspace. As an FAA Aviation Safety Inspector that was on duty on 9/11 (now retired), I can tell you we had to scramble to contact every airport, heliport, seaplane base, designated landing area to be sure they got the message all airspace is closed. Sadly, we found that we didn't have good contact info on many.

  • @TimMcKay56

    @TimMcKay56

    9 ай бұрын

    Max: Thanks so much for your kind words! 😊 Tim

  • @crystalclearwindowcleaning3458
    @crystalclearwindowcleaning34589 ай бұрын

    Your voice comes through just fine. If the whole thing was about knowing where all the aircraft are, then ultralights would have to have an RID. This is the first step in eliminating RC aircraft so that the big companies can do remote drone deliveries. It's evil.

  • @TimMcKay56

    @TimMcKay56

    9 ай бұрын

    RID is just not that big of a deal. Tim

  • @jackguinn8462

    @jackguinn8462

    9 ай бұрын

    BINGO!!!!

  • @xjet
    @xjet9 ай бұрын

    I have long said that going as far back as the introduction of registration for RC models and drones that this was laying the groundwork for a "pay to fly" end-game. The RID NPRM clearly laid down the mechanism by which this pay-to-fly system would be implemented. This has been delayed but not cancelled and pay-to-fly is still the end-game. The USA is not alone however, and I see that in the Philippines they have just introduced a system where drone operators (including recreational users) must now pay by the hour for permission to fly their craft. Get your wallets ready...

  • @TimMcKay56

    @TimMcKay56

    9 ай бұрын

    Which is precisely the reason all modelers need to support the AMA, and any other other credible national organization representing modeler interests. General aviation does this full time with EAA and AOPA (lawyers, lobbyists, etc.). For certain include the major airlines . . . there is a reason United and Delta has Washington offices. Any pilot these days is basically suicidal if they do not have meaningful representation in Washington DC with all the new regulations waiting to be written these days. You get what you negotiate. Tim

  • @xjet

    @xjet

    9 ай бұрын

    @@TimMcKay56 Sorry Tim, I know we'll disagree on this, but although I think the AMA has done its best to protect the rights of AMA members they have done a very poor job of protecting the hobby. The hobby is much larger than simply AMA members these days and many people would get zero benefit from being an AMA member. I also recall watching Rich Hansen sleep through a very important Zoom conference where he was supposed to be the hobby's representative in front of fierce opposition from the likes of the CDA. He didn't say a word and the hobby suffered as a result. I also cant' count the number of times I've heard the AMA say "we're working *with* the FAA" and then discover that the've been shafted again such that members rights and freedoms are further curtailed. The AMA has not done a satisfactory job of protecting the hobby -- or we would not now all be required to sign an offender's list (registration) and fit ankle-bracelets to our RC models. Nor would we have to accept that a scratch-built RC model of a P51D Mustang is a "drone". The AMA should have stood firm on demanding a distinction between a DJI Mavic and the traditional hobby -- but they didn't. That in and of itself is an epic fail. In 2015, even the Commercial Drone Alliance acknowledged that the traditional hobby hasn't changed -- so why are we being treated as if we're all flying computer-assisted multirotors with GPS and hi-resolution cameras? Totally unacceptable -- that distinction should have been where the AMA stood its ground -- but they didn't. They sold out on the promise of "special privilege" for members -- in the form of FRIAs. Bought off like a cheap hooker I'm afraid.

  • @gordonmckay4523

    @gordonmckay4523

    9 ай бұрын

    @@xjet Count your lucky stars, I guess, that you do not have to negotiate these complex, thorny, constantly changing, difficult issues in the real world. Lots of equities when dealing with various users of the National Airspace System (military, commercial, Space X, ultralights, parachutists, general aviation, balloons . . . the list goes on). It is just common sense that not everyone can get exactly what they wish in these discussions. Compromises, sometimes painful, as the only way ahead. Certainly a lot easier to be a keyboard warrior! Tim 😁😳

  • @xjet

    @xjet

    9 ай бұрын

    @@gordonmckay4523 I'm far from "a keyboard warrior" Tim. I've been at the coalface of standing up for rights and freedoms for much of my life and it has given me tremendous insight into the ways of bureaucrats, regulators and politicians. Much of this was long before the internet was even a thing. I've seen and understand how they work, which is why it saddens me that the AMA's approach shows so much naivety -- to the cost of the hobby.

  • @ericew

    @ericew

    9 ай бұрын

    FAA is only authorized to regulate "navigable" airspace. My backyard is not navigable and neither is the park. The whole idea of regulating and criminalizing RC use is insane. 107 wasn't bad enough to drive off the masses so the FAA will continue to invent new regulation until only Amazon will be allowed to fly in your backyard.

  • @benjaminjohnson6476
    @benjaminjohnson64769 ай бұрын

    The part that still bothers me is the aspect of the "ultralight aircraft" category were they nither need any training or any kind of transponder or remote id equivalent. They are not even required to have an onboard radio to communicate... yet our small UAV's MUST have remote ID and ultralights won't undermine the ability for larger unmanned drones to avoid ALL manned aircraft....

  • @TimMcKay56

    @TimMcKay56

    9 ай бұрын

    This is the deal: The FAA was going to start writing regs for ultralights in 1980, and it was not going to be pretty. Ultralight community organized, met with FAA and said in effect if you write minimal regs for us we will not cause trouble (violating controlled airspace, etc.). And they kept their end of the bargain. Drones not so much with around 1,500 violations a year. Hence RID. Tim

  • @747Max

    @747Max

    9 ай бұрын

    I see you've been watching Xjet videos. First it is very easy to figure out who is operating an ultralight (the purpose of RID), just be there when they land. Second there is an entire section of the Federal Aviation Regulations that pertains to ultralights (Part 103) that is as restrictive as Part 107. Finally, ultralights must use radios and transponders when and if they operate in airspace that require there use.

  • @TimMcKay56

    @TimMcKay56

    9 ай бұрын

    @@747Max Exactly! The FAA has been doing this a while, as you point out. TBH I really do not watch Xjet videos, too exhausting. But, he reaches out to me so happy to respond. 😊. All good! Tim

  • @shadowofchaosfpv4683
    @shadowofchaosfpv46839 ай бұрын

    FAA wants to track all drones. But Balloons, hang gliders, para motors and ultralights DON'T need to broadcast where they are or register the craft or need a license. They fly in the same airspace as drones but don't require ADBS or RID. How is it safe for an ultralight but dangerous for a 300g drone?

  • @TimMcKay56

    @TimMcKay56

    9 ай бұрын

    Drones are difficult to see, due to their small size. Not the case with full scale manned aircraft. Tim

  • @shadowofchaosfpv4683

    @shadowofchaosfpv4683

    9 ай бұрын

    ​@@TimMcKay56all DJI drones, the most popular brand in commercial drones, have aircraft lights and are visible from a good distance day or night. What lights do the ultralights have? We don't know because they don't have to register or passed an aircraft inspection by the FAA. What sounds more dangerous to you, Tim? 500 lbs of invisible manned ultralights or a 400g fixed wing drone?

  • @TimMcKay56

    @TimMcKay56

    9 ай бұрын

    @@shadowofchaosfpv4683 Ultralights cannot fly at night.

  • @stevendegiorgio3143
    @stevendegiorgio31439 ай бұрын

    This is just another way to force AMA membership on us R/C flyers.The AMA can raise there dues as much as they want and make us pay.Its like auto insurance.its all mandatory.

  • @user-ns1jj3ks5s

    @user-ns1jj3ks5s

    9 ай бұрын

    You hit it on the head Tim. There is a FRIA club near where I live and you have to be an AMA member plus pay monthly dues. It's all politics to us, so we don't even mess with them. The small group of RC pilots I'm with fly both helicopters and fix wing have many years of experience (100 years plus). The cost we invested is in the 1,000's of $$$$$$. We are all late middle age and senior citizens are homeowners with land and have the resources to fly independently. The FAA has every right in keeping the sky clear and safe of those (drone operators I don't even call pilots), we get that. Real RC pilots follow the rules to the letter for operating our aircraft in a professional and safe manner, none of us are AMA members. FAA don't put us in the same category as those who have abuse this fine and fun hobby.

  • @kenkingsflyingmachines2382

    @kenkingsflyingmachines2382

    9 ай бұрын

    I don't think it's the evil AMA as much as it is the evil FAA. There are Washington lobbyists pushing for drone-this and drone-that and want the airspace for themselves without pesky hobbyists screwing up their profit potential. So someone raised "safety concerns" to the FAA, and they responded the same way they responded when airlines blamed general aviation for their safety problems: They made it too expensive for normal people to fly Cessnas through regulation and avionics requirements. Now they are doing the same thing to model aviation. I think if they could license 1/8" flat rubber for my Sleek Streek, they would.

  • @TimMcKay56

    @TimMcKay56

    9 ай бұрын

    The USG, to include the FAA, sees merit working with Community Based Organizations. They have knowledge of what their members are doing, usually follow some sort of code, etc. And folks just gotta keep in mind the AMA is the only organization/lobby group working on our side in these critical Washington meetings. Without their involvement, RC pilots would be road kill. Tim

  • @johnnystieferman6527

    @johnnystieferman6527

    9 ай бұрын

    I,ve always said ama is useless ,when my homeowners covers me first , damn ama,plus they staggered there 12 month membership so its a pain in the ass to keep up with who,s current and who is not,already our club has had problems cause of this,and getting cussed out because of asking someone if they are current or not.when ama was from jan to jan it was easy to keep up with.not now.....

  • @shadowofchaosfpv4683

    @shadowofchaosfpv4683

    9 ай бұрын

    AMA sold everyone out including the AMA memberships. Lots of clubs are getting denied and the AMA has nothing to add but resubmit applications. AMA is a footstool to the FAA and commercial lobbyists fighting for airspace. FTCA is a FREE community based organization that focuses on the HOBBY, not the politics or memberships. I'll never waste my time or money on the AMA ever again. Pay to fly at a AMA field is how you kill a hobby or group. Just ask the Oddfellows. Oh, you can't. They don't exist anymore.

  • @stevendegiorgio3143
    @stevendegiorgio31439 ай бұрын

    My same argument is the fact that R/C model aircraft never fly high enough to be in the way of full scale aircraft.I fly planes with a 35 inch wing span,at that size Im never higher than 200 feet agl at any time in my flight A full scale aircraft would have to be doing something very wrong for a conflict to accur.

  • @TimMcKay56

    @TimMcKay56

    9 ай бұрын

    Steven: I hear you. But there are over 1,500 flights a year of drones in controlled airspace, where they should not be. To know who is flying where, the RID rule is for all aircraft, essentially, not in a FRIA. Tim

  • @koolpix4u

    @koolpix4u

    9 ай бұрын

    400' altitude is a killer for sailplanes. A normal launch height from a highstart or winch used to be around 500'. I hear that if your have a contest and get permission your can fly higher. If a person is just out flying or practicing staying for the fun of it having to stay under 400' is a buzz kill. Ive been in the hobby since 1979 and have never heard of a problem.

  • @gordonmckay4523

    @gordonmckay4523

    9 ай бұрын

    @@koolpix4u Agree. Only issue is controlled airspace. If no controlled airspace, hopefully AMA can work higher altitudes. Tim

  • @MrKyle700

    @MrKyle700

    9 ай бұрын

    @@koolpix4u the thing is, unless you live next to a lot of people, one can just... fly past 400 and no one stops you lol. I'm out in the middle of nowhere flying for like 30 minutes, no cops are gunna come and yell at you for being slightly too high, the FAA will never know. It's only a big deal if you fly at a flying field with other fliers

  • @koolpix4u

    @koolpix4u

    9 ай бұрын

    @@MrKyle700 our field is in a city park. We actually have a runway built by the city parks department. The park has 3 buildings none of which we fly over and a few roads. There is no soccer, no football no playground only a x-country event once every so often. It’s most a place to walk your dog. Our city has even designated our area as a RC electric only flying field and yet the FAA denied our FRIA over safety concerns. But then what’s really crazy and I have confirmed with the AMA we can still fly at the same place if we have remote ID. It’s got nothing to do with safety is my opinion.

  • @nateteator3901
    @nateteator39019 ай бұрын

    AMA fields are pretty small compared to regular flight patterns. So now Angry neighbors can be the sideline referees. 😢

  • @TimMcKay56

    @TimMcKay56

    9 ай бұрын

    Depends on the field! Ours is in the middle of nowhere. Tim

  • @xjet
    @xjet9 ай бұрын

    KZread reports your audio being -6.3dB - so you need to raise the audio level when editing the video.

  • @TimMcKay56

    @TimMcKay56

    9 ай бұрын

    Thanks! Tim

  • @davidharrington956
    @davidharrington9569 ай бұрын

    I hear you just fin. Your awesome with all the knowledge you possess and give freely. 😊

  • @TimMcKay56

    @TimMcKay56

    9 ай бұрын

    I appreciate that! Tim

  • @lamarw7757

    @lamarw7757

    9 ай бұрын

    Please learn how to spell, before commenting.

  • @slapdat.byteme
    @slapdat.byteme9 ай бұрын

    I must be lucky, I guess. My backyard, the local city park, the lakefront near me, and pretty much everywhere else I fly are all FRIAs!

  • @TimMcKay56

    @TimMcKay56

    9 ай бұрын

    Copy!

  • @joepellissier2091
    @joepellissier20919 ай бұрын

    Tim, another great video on the subject. How does the remote ID law relate to local flying restrictions? The way I understand, we potentially are allowed to fly anywhere as along as we have remote ID. Does this mean we are allowed to fly in parks and other locations? What about local restrictions on drone flying? Does this affect rc planes as well? I recently saw a post where someone was flying in a park and was told my some official that he was not allowed to fly there because drone flying was prohibited. What if he has remote ID? I think these may be two completely separate and unrelated issues but it seems they are in conflict.

  • @modquad18

    @modquad18

    9 ай бұрын

    Really good question 👍🏽 Kinda similar to being allowed to photograph anything in public.

  • @norsehabanero2920

    @norsehabanero2920

    9 ай бұрын

    I think restrictions that are in place still apply like some city parks don't allow or state and national parks don't allow flight I believe the rid is separate

  • @TimMcKay56

    @TimMcKay56

    9 ай бұрын

    Joe: A very good question. The FAA controls aircraft movement in the National Airspace System. This includes unmanned RC aircraft. Per the RID rule, after March 16, 2024 any civilian (i.e. non USG person) flying an RC airplane/drone/helo needs RID to fly, with the exception of models under 250 grams flown recreationally and pilots flying in a FRIA. Where it gets more complicated, and these legal issues are still being worked out, is that certain areas/local governments can still restrict drone/RC plane operations. For example,, the US National Park Service flat prohibits all drone flights in National Parks. Tim

  • @MrKyle700

    @MrKyle700

    9 ай бұрын

    RID is a national regulation. Any county or town can still institute an ordinance that bans any type of activity. I bet if you look it up though, it was in fact never banned and your friend was just getting harassed by some rando cop

  • @shadowofchaosfpv4683

    @shadowofchaosfpv4683

    9 ай бұрын

    ​@@MrKyle700not in Michigan. Michigan passed a state law that says the federal FAA laws rule over the airspace. So local ordinances in Michigan are illegal in both the federal and state laws on the books. There are 3 exceptions but each was passed by the state to get the ban. U of M is one of them.

  • @johngriecosr8723
    @johngriecosr87239 ай бұрын

    Tim great content. Your audio was very clear on my phone.

  • @TimMcKay56

    @TimMcKay56

    9 ай бұрын

    Thanks! Tim

  • @georgekelly1948
    @georgekelly19489 ай бұрын

    Great info. Thanks, Tim.

  • @TimMcKay56

    @TimMcKay56

    9 ай бұрын

    Glad it was helpful!

  • @larrylancaster9131
    @larrylancaster91319 ай бұрын

    Thanks for the new mike, it has been very hardto hear you in past videos!

  • @TimMcKay56

    @TimMcKay56

    9 ай бұрын

    Good to know!

  • @larrylancaster9131
    @larrylancaster91319 ай бұрын

    Thanks!

  • @TimMcKay56

    @TimMcKay56

    9 ай бұрын

    Larry: Awesome, many thanks!! Tim

  • @yodaiam1000
    @yodaiam10009 ай бұрын

    Why are RC models such a concern when ultra-light AC do not have to identify? Why do manned AC outside of controlled airspace not require ADS-B? It appears that there are more restrictions on RC planes than there are with other AC that carry out riskier operations. Why not separate out the definition of RC planes (no GPS or FPV) and drones (w/ GPS, FPV, and cameras) since RC planes have historically not been an issue and continue not to be an issue?

  • @TimMcKay56

    @TimMcKay56

    9 ай бұрын

    RC models (drones mainly) are a concern due to airspace violations, around 1,500 a year. One of these could get your license pulled if a full scale pilot. Ultralight do identify because they are very easy to see, fly slow and low and operate out of airports. These Part 103 pilots by and large follow the rules, as the FAA has said clearly they will shut them down via regulation if they do not follow Part 103. Tim

  • @yodaiam1000

    @yodaiam1000

    9 ай бұрын

    @@TimMcKay56 Most ultralights fly as paragliders and hang gliders off of mountains, towing (outside of airports), or as paramotors. So I would not say they are mostly operating out of airports. They can fly in some very remote locations with "hike and flys" etc. They can fly extremely high and do so quite often. Going to 10 000' or 15 000' is not unusual. Some hang glider pilots fly at over 100kms/hr. So these AC are bigger, faster than most drones, and have human occupants. I would hazard to guess most of those 1500 incursions are from drones and not RC plane or helicopter pilots. My point being that the definition of these types of AC should be different. I agree that pilots still have to fly safely so there is no excuse for those incursions. I don't see RID helping in this regard. Education is a more effective tool. A midair between a full sized AC and an ultra light is disastrous. The very few midairs with drones have not yet been disastrous. I get that they can be but it is extremely rare. The reduction in consequences substantially reduces the risk of UAVs compared to Ultra-lights. All the mid-airs collisions that I am aware of with UAVs have been by government controlled drones (e.g. the Bonneville accident in Ontario, Canada). That is because government controlled UAVs are more likely to be near traffic which hobbyists (and even most Part 107 pilots) are better able to avoid all together. The point being is that the education of hobbyists is working and are at less risk than other forms of aviation. Those other riskier forms of aviation have fewer restrictions which doesn't make a lot of sense to me.

  • @gordonmckay4523

    @gordonmckay4523

    9 ай бұрын

    @@yodaiam1000 Read the UAS Sightings Report. They are all drones, in controlled airspace without a clearance. Tim

  • @yodaiam1000

    @yodaiam1000

    9 ай бұрын

    @@gordonmckay4523 I am not saying it is okay to fly RC planes or drones next to airports. That is a rule that makes sense. I would also say RID on RC planes isn't going to change the rate of those occurrences. It makes more sense to have the rules give a seperate definition for RC planes/helicopters and drones. The end rules need to be different for the different types of AC. That would make more sense. Drones pose a different risk than RC planes. I am also saying that there is far greater risk from other forms of aviation that have fewer and less restrictive rules than RC planes which doesn't make much sense to me. If this is a question of safety, then isn't there an issue with the other forms of aviation? I am not saying hang gliding and paragliding need more rules. I am saying the rules centred around RC planes don't make sense.

  • @MrGaborseres
    @MrGaborseres9 ай бұрын

    You sounded just awesome 👌 👍

  • @TimMcKay56

    @TimMcKay56

    9 ай бұрын

    Thank you so much 😁

  • @norsehabanero2920
    @norsehabanero29209 ай бұрын

    Sounds good

  • @TimMcKay56

    @TimMcKay56

    9 ай бұрын

    😊👍🏻 Tim

  • @user-vu4wt5wt1p
    @user-vu4wt5wt1p9 ай бұрын

    Hi Tim, please explain how the FAA track a remote ID module if it is transmitting only on Bluetooth with a range of only 800ft? just seems as if broadcast data will be received by nobody and thus useless or am I confused?

  • @modquad18

    @modquad18

    9 ай бұрын

    Agreed, range should be at least 2500-5k ft. I’ll submit your suggestion on the FAA web site 👍🏽

  • @TimMcKay56

    @TimMcKay56

    9 ай бұрын

    I really have no idea how RID will work with these limited broadcast ranges. The meet the FAA's Means of Compliance, so I guess we will find out soon! Tim

  • @jasonhurdlow6607

    @jasonhurdlow6607

    9 ай бұрын

    The shorter range the better. The less the Karen's and FAA-friendly data collection lackeys of the world see the better.

  • @user-hu3sz4lf1f

    @user-hu3sz4lf1f

    9 ай бұрын

    This is just for them to get set up to take further control in future. They will soon require you to be licenced as a pilot so they can pull that cert if you fail to comply with their orders. @@jasonhurdlow6607

  • @ericew

    @ericew

    9 ай бұрын

    FAA is soliciting bids for companies to collect and aggregate the data, I don't doubt they have ways of doing it at much longer ranges since that will depend primarily on antenna design. Heck, starlink is going to demonstrate network connectivity with unmodified cell phones soon. This is going to be a cat and mouse for years, they will roll out additional regulations and make all the less powerful units obsolete and force hobbyists to buy new modules, and then one for each device, and then you will need to link your personal information with each RID unit. If you have a single issue with Karen they are going to pull your 107 permission and you won't be able to fly.

  • @norsehabanero2920
    @norsehabanero29209 ай бұрын

    I keep hearing about rid not needed if flying recreational and under 250 grams. Is that a myth as well? I've heard yes and no answers

  • @TimMcKay56

    @TimMcKay56

    9 ай бұрын

    100% true. RID is tied to drone registration. Per the FAA, no unmanned aircraft less than 250 grams and used for recreational flight needs to be registered, thus no need for RID for these smaller models. Tim

  • @koolpix4u

    @koolpix4u

    9 ай бұрын

    I asked the AMA and was told you can keep flying the way you used to as long as you’re under the 250g

  • @shadowofchaosfpv4683

    @shadowofchaosfpv4683

    9 ай бұрын

    ​@koolpix4u you are good to fly anywhere in Class G airspace with a sub 250g craft recreationally. Have fun!

  • @gordonmckay4523

    @gordonmckay4523

    9 ай бұрын

    @@shadowofchaosfpv4683 Correct.

  • @justplanefred

    @justplanefred

    9 ай бұрын

    @@koolpix4umaybe that has become part of the AMA’s own rules for flying at an AMA field. Plus the FAA didnt really announce their delay in enforcement until a few days prior to it going into effect. I also suspect some club presidents not wanting to rock the boat with possible noncompliance if the application for their field is still pending

  • @IO_Darren
    @IO_Darren9 ай бұрын

    As a drone operator, I really have to just say 'im so sorry' to the fixed wing model RC operators. I'm so sorry that the accessability of drones and the way they're used has forced the FAA to come down on ya'll so hard by just lumping us all together. For years (decades) things haven't been a problem, but drones come along and it just threw a huge wrench in the works. I'm so sorry ya'll are having to go through this. One little subtle point of clarification. The FAA didn't delay the implementation of the RID rule. They just delayed enforcement of it. It's a very real but subtle difference. Likely the -practical- effect of it is about the same, but in some scenarios it can be significant. Let's say that you get into some manner of accident, and damage or injury is caused. Under normal circumstances your insurance may cover it, but if you don't have RID, that will give the insurance company a reason to deny a claim. (insurance will use ANY excuse that they can find to deny a claim, of course). They will say "well....was your model equipped with RID? Sept 16th was the date you were supposed to". If you say "no, but they aren't enforcing it yet", then the insurance company will say "well that's nice that they aren't enforcing it...but nevertheless the rule says you're supposed to have it on your model by the 16th of sept. You were not flying in compliance with the rule. Wether or not the FAA was enforcing it is irrelevant...the rule is in place."

  • @TimMcKay56

    @TimMcKay56

    9 ай бұрын

    Darren: Thanks for your input! Regarding insurance, I guess it depends on the carrier. But AMA is crystal clear that AMA insurance is not contingent on Remote ID installation or use. Tim

  • @slapdat.byteme

    @slapdat.byteme

    9 ай бұрын

    “Rules”? 🤣🤣🤣

  • @justplanefred

    @justplanefred

    9 ай бұрын

    I think your thoughts are very honorable. As a fixed wing, rotary wing, and drone operator I do not like them being all lumped together either. I really don’t see the need for AMA flying field flyers to need to register or have remote ID. These clubs have been operating for nearly a century if not more just fine and self police themselves. I personally don’t feel drones themselves are completely the issue either. At least not completely. I think the larger problem that really brings this to the table is the mass availability at department stores that is the problem. It brings unguided, uninformed people into this all and doing whatever their control link allows them to do. They should have been limited to begin with when they started to sell in department stores. People that have been in the hobby or whom have been introduced to the hobby by hobbyist generally follow a basic set of guidelines and principles.

  • @gordonmckay4523

    @gordonmckay4523

    9 ай бұрын

    @@justplanefred We'll get through this. For full scale pilots, regulations are simply a way of life. For a lot of RC pilots, regs are the end of the world. There is a middle ground somewhere! Tim

  • @IO_Darren

    @IO_Darren

    9 ай бұрын

    @@TimMcKay56 Now is that AMA insurance just for recreational flying? What happens if I'm flying under part 107? From what I looked at, the AMA insurance is only for people flying under the 44809 recreational exemption. I'm more talking about anyone flying under part 107.

  • @Mr2711969
    @Mr27119699 ай бұрын

    So large commercial interests are restricting and probably killing off a well established hobby (and all it's associated business) under a mountain of safety and fear based concerns, with no historical evidence of there being a problem. Yet microlight aviation, which does put people at risk, both pilots and people on the ground due to the size and weight; the FAA says it is completely safe so no licensing or identification is needed. This is so wrong on so many levels.

  • @TimMcKay56

    @TimMcKay56

    9 ай бұрын

    Recreational RC is doing fine, not going away. Tim

  • @shadowofchaosfpv4683

    @shadowofchaosfpv4683

    9 ай бұрын

    Don't worry about drone delivery. The FAA and drone companies still haven't solved the bird strike issue. Drones will fall from the sky from bird strikes and cost thousands of dollars for every failed flight because everyone will sue the delivery companies for property damage. Or steal the goods from the drone like they are doing in California with the ground drones. Australia and New Zealand's drone delivery systems failed miserably because of birds and trees.

  • @ericew

    @ericew

    9 ай бұрын

    @@TimMcKay56 As a counterpoint everyone here is either new or has decided to suck up to the FAA. I, like many others, left the hobby with the 107 nonsense since it was clear that their intent was to kill off the hobby by pricing and/or regulating people out. How much nonsense has the hobby put up with in the last 8 years... how much of it has made an iota of difference in overall safety? I come back and watch a few videos to see about getting back into the hobby after 8 years. So far it looks like the doomers have been spot on and the FAA is not slowing down, if anything they are just getting started. Maybe I should just get an ultralight since it would be less hassle.

  • @user-bd5nh5eb4b
    @user-bd5nh5eb4b9 ай бұрын

    With licence and equipment do you have any projection Tim as to what the yearly costs may look like? I know you are busy, but trying to research this myself has only confused me. Would certainly appreciate any suggestions in this area, I reside in Eastern Tennessee. Thank you, and a thousand thumbs up to the video ❤. redbaron Chattanooga

  • @TimMcKay56

    @TimMcKay56

    9 ай бұрын

    RB: Not sure of your question. Is it the cost of RC hardware in general, or government fees? For the fees, just the $5 FAA registration fee every 3 years. Good for all RC models. For the hardware, a good Spektrum RC set is under $300, and ARF trainers are under $150. www.FMSmodels.com have some very good ARFs. Tim

  • @user-bd5nh5eb4b

    @user-bd5nh5eb4b

    9 ай бұрын

    @@TimMcKay56 Thanks Tim, so happy I found your channel and thanks for your time.

  • @gordonmckay4523

    @gordonmckay4523

    9 ай бұрын

    @@user-bd5nh5eb4b Thanks for tuning in! Tim

  • @Noircogi
    @Noircogi9 ай бұрын

    Remote ID is enough to make me stop RC flying all together. I've been flying for many years, but almost never from a flying field. I've done slope soaring at known locations along the coast, or FPV planes in remote areas. I care too much about my full-sized pilot certificate to risk running afoul of the FAA with models.

  • @TimMcKay56

    @TimMcKay56

    9 ай бұрын

    RID is just not that much of a big deal.

  • @Noircogi

    @Noircogi

    9 ай бұрын

    My slope soarers don't have nearly enough space for a RID module. There's only one FRIA on the map for the entire SF bay area and it's a park in the middle of town. The type of FPV I used to do won't be a thing until amateur BVLOS is legal which seems unlikely to ever happen.

  • @larryblanks6765
    @larryblanks67659 ай бұрын

    Can hear you fine Tim.

  • @TimMcKay56

    @TimMcKay56

    9 ай бұрын

    Thanks!

  • @DoyleBlevins
    @DoyleBlevins9 ай бұрын

    Tim you need to say this is your opinion because if a AMA field is on county property then the county can and has said we will need to comply.

  • @TimMcKay56

    @TimMcKay56

    9 ай бұрын

    OK.

  • @RobFeldkamp
    @RobFeldkamp9 ай бұрын

    I hear you OK. I would however suggest you try to adjust the equalizer of your sound if you want to use this mic. the sound is somewhat muffled. Adding high frequencies (a little) and removing some low mids would make the some volume easier to understand. And there seems to be a lot of unnecessary bass frequencies which add to volume but not to clarity.

  • @TimMcKay56

    @TimMcKay56

    9 ай бұрын

    Thanks, will try! Tim

  • @919Drones
    @919Drones9 ай бұрын

    Better audio. Still muffled though. Great information.

  • @modquad18

    @modquad18

    9 ай бұрын

    Same impression here Tim - not ideal.

  • @TimMcKay56

    @TimMcKay56

    9 ай бұрын

    Thanks!

  • @icin4d
    @icin4d9 ай бұрын

    On 09.23.23 I applied for an RFAA (Recreational Flyer Airspace Authorizations) zone in my backyard. It would be for very small helies and indoor size fixed wing planes. I put the max height of these aircraft at 20'. Right after watching your video today (10.9.23) I opened my email to find the FAA had responded to my request. With anticipation I logged on to the site and found that my request had been denied. The reason they gave: Application was canceled - Class G airspace.☹

  • @TimMcKay56

    @TimMcKay56

    9 ай бұрын

    Oops!

  • @icin4d

    @icin4d

    9 ай бұрын

    @@TimMcKay56 Could you explain "Oops" in your professional opinion? Is Class G Airspace going to be a default denial for policing ones' backyard at 20' and below?

  • @slapdat.byteme

    @slapdat.byteme

    9 ай бұрын

    If I’m you, non-compliance would be my go-to flight plan!

  • @justplanefred

    @justplanefred

    9 ай бұрын

    @@icin4dthat is interesting as class G airspace is Uncontrolled airspace. Probably their default answer hoping nobody would even bat an eye at it.

  • @christopherwhull
    @christopherwhull9 ай бұрын

    So my one man club with a ton more space (agriculture space) has less creditability than the AMA field in a shoebox down the street? How does that merge with equal protection? How does it support high speed operations of 3.5 inch drones that can exceed 90kts. Traffic patterns are so boring to the average quadcopter pilot, you seem to think the quadcopter pilots who outnumber all the the other AMA members have a need for pattern work. Quadcopter aerobatics are in contact with objects. Your thoughts on sound like an old man agreeing with operations so he can retain his balsa model because the GMEN are scary. The AMA members are ignoring remote ID.... you have just lost touch.

  • @TimMcKay56

    @TimMcKay56

    9 ай бұрын

    Copy!

  • @independentdronechannel170
    @independentdronechannel1709 ай бұрын

    😁👍

  • @TimMcKay56

    @TimMcKay56

    9 ай бұрын

    😊👍🏻 Tim

  • @FredHarvey-wp2qy
    @FredHarvey-wp2qy9 ай бұрын

    You said something like the FRIAs were good for 4 years. Does that mean that new FRIAs can be established for the next 4 years? Or does that mean that FRIAs currently in effect will go away after 4 years? Thanks!

  • @TimMcKay56

    @TimMcKay56

    9 ай бұрын

    When the FAA approves a FRIA, that approval is good for 48 months (4 years). The club will have to reapply after four years to renew the approval. This could and likely will change, but is in the final rule for now. Tim

  • @LovesGames113
    @LovesGames1139 ай бұрын

    That mic works alot better then your last one.

  • @TimMcKay56

    @TimMcKay56

    9 ай бұрын

    Thanks!

  • @CV-qy5qi
    @CV-qy5qi9 ай бұрын

    You are incorrect in that the compliance date has slipped. The FAA in two online interviews said that enforcement to RID is discretionary. RID -is- in effect. Everyone flying outside of a FRIA and 250g above are on the hook. If something goes wrong you can certainly get lack of compliance to RID added to any enforcement. That is directly from an FAA representative.

  • @TimMcKay56

    @TimMcKay56

    9 ай бұрын

    You are correct! FAA wants compliance, but simply no enforcement until Mar 16, 2024. Tim

  • @CentralPaRcFlyingDays
    @CentralPaRcFlyingDays9 ай бұрын

    Audio was fine, holding the mic has got to be a PITA. Question. If a Club, managed under a CBO, has not mandated RID for their members, does that put their CBO standing at Risk? If there is no local CBO Club member mandate, and members are NOT running RID at the Non FRIA CBO site, is the CBO club held liable? Is the individual not running RID going to be liable?

  • @TimMcKay56

    @TimMcKay56

    9 ай бұрын

    Clubs have nothing to do with RID. That is an FAA regulation, coming into effect on March 16, 2024. Clubs are clubs. If members do not comply with RID, no role for the club. Tim

  • @CentralPaRcFlyingDays

    @CentralPaRcFlyingDays

    9 ай бұрын

    @@TimMcKay56 so we "think" that if the AMA does not adopt RID as part of its Charter, the FAA will not lean into them to do so and or even cause the AMA to loose their ability to negotiate with the FAA on our behalf? The FAA expects people of the public with the app to report problems. They are providing access and training to the local LEOs to investigate, but you don't think once this is established, the FAA won't expect COBs to also be their police force?

  • @gordonmckay4523

    @gordonmckay4523

    9 ай бұрын

    @@CentralPaRcFlyingDays Not at all. The AMA, like other pilot groups (AOPA, EAA, ALPA, etc.) simply follow FAA regulations. AMA does not "mandate" RID for members (lots of AMA members fly indoors, control line, free flight, etc., none of which need RID), that is a USG function. Tim

  • @user-hu3sz4lf1f
    @user-hu3sz4lf1f9 ай бұрын

    I have 80 acres of private property that I fly on. I own it, and no one else flies there. But that does not give the all powerfull ama a source of income from me. and they never will be.

  • @TimMcKay56

    @TimMcKay56

    9 ай бұрын

    Copy!

  • @SteelWolf13
    @SteelWolf139 ай бұрын

    Not to mention that if you have a FRIA on your property any federal government agency can site that as an "in" to access your property with out a warrant. For your safety.

  • @TimMcKay56

    @TimMcKay56

    9 ай бұрын

    Copy!

  • @MikeLee-mz4zd

    @MikeLee-mz4zd

    9 ай бұрын

    It is ridiculous that the FAA would require a "drone" operator to employ RID to inspect the rain gutters on their own home. Government overreach, pure and simple.

  • @DumbledoreMcCracken
    @DumbledoreMcCracken9 ай бұрын

    Off topic,, but I was reading the Title 47 CFR Part 95 regulations yesterday (FCC). It is illegal to use 72 MHz, or 27 MHz, radio control stations to control Title 14 CFR Part 107 sUAS (drones). Likewise, as per Title 47 CFR Part 97, using a ham radio on 50 MHz to control a Title 14 CFR Part 107 sUAS in the effort to gain a pecuniary advantage, is illegal. Soon all the regulations will be so intertwined, I won't be able to understand them.

  • @DumbledoreMcCracken

    @DumbledoreMcCracken

    9 ай бұрын

    Excellent video Sir

  • @TimMcKay56

    @TimMcKay56

    9 ай бұрын

    Thanks!

  • @TimMcKay56

    @TimMcKay56

    9 ай бұрын

    Interesting. But I guess the more relevant point is why anyone would use 72 MHz. 😊🙈🙀 Tim

  • @kentbarnes1955
    @kentbarnes19559 ай бұрын

    Biggest challenge I see is I'm NO where near a FRIA. The "club" field I usually (and its been a while) fly at is off the side of a small general aviation airport that probably averages at most TWO general aviation "events" (landings, take offs, etc) daily. (I would still guess it unlikely to obtain a FRIA even IF that club submitted for one)

  • @TimMcKay56

    @TimMcKay56

    9 ай бұрын

    Copy!

  • @jackguinn8462

    @jackguinn8462

    9 ай бұрын

    I live in a small west TX. town with 1 small municipal airport 45 MI from any large airport. The only thing in town is the carefight helo pad at the local hospital just down the street. Plenty of places to fly around here and not be in the way.

  • @TimMcKay56

    @TimMcKay56

    9 ай бұрын

    @@jackguinn8462 😊👍🏻 Tim

  • @jackguinn8462

    @jackguinn8462

    9 ай бұрын

    @@TimMcKay56I think it's all about the money.

  • @charlenemyers188
    @charlenemyers1885 ай бұрын

    So, Tim, how do you proprose for the homeowner to provide a UAS ID to police when it is only availble to police and not the publuc? Police do not sit watching my roof from drones crashing into it causing property damage. Drones don't hang around after a crash or even admit to crashing. Just as a car has a license plate that can be reported to police so should ALL drones. The public, unless you have a sure way to guarantee that drones do not fall from the sky and crash that we homeowners don't know about? And how do you propose that the homeowner is to be able to obtain the labeled UAS ID required to be on the drone itself when it crashes on my roof at night and takes off? Remote UAS ID is a necessity for public safety and property.

  • @TimMcKay56

    @TimMcKay56

    5 ай бұрын

    Charlene: Your valid questions best answered by a lawyer. Stay safe! Tim

  • @vanradosevich4249
    @vanradosevich42499 ай бұрын

    Are there any rules against designing RC airplanes and putting the calculations and drawings on KZread? How about FPV airplanes and accessories?

  • @TimMcKay56

    @TimMcKay56

    9 ай бұрын

    None that I know of. Tim

  • @smesui1799

    @smesui1799

    9 ай бұрын

    If they put such restrictions, it would be because they are paranoid about 💥s ... 😅.

  • @DoyleBlevins
    @DoyleBlevins9 ай бұрын

    Both mics worked fine. Tim your last video was OK but it was not as good on your shirt sleeve. Tim, to me there are no improvement one over the other. thank you for you videos

  • @TimMcKay56

    @TimMcKay56

    9 ай бұрын

    Thanks for the tips!

  • @flyingweed9671
    @flyingweed96719 ай бұрын

    Tim, I will never join a national organisation like the AMA. They offer no benefit to me. It you want better control of airspace the first thing to do is control GA, specifically those pilots that regularly operate below 500 feet and are not equiped with ADSB. Only yesterday I visited my uncles property and witnessed a microlight aircraft fly approx 300 feet over his house as we conversed on his front door step. I regularly kite fish at Uratiti Beach. Here the GA pilots like to fly up the beach at approx 200 feet to ogle the nudists sun bathing in the sand dunes. My fishing kite flies at a measured 400 feet. One day one of these GA pilots will pick up my fishing reel, line, baits etc and drag it across country to the point of impact. GA pilots in the US die at a rate of approx 5 per week, yet we are putting all this effort into controlling a hobby that has killed no one. Its a disgrace.

  • @TimMcKay56

    @TimMcKay56

    9 ай бұрын

    Copy!

  • @joegyles8995
    @joegyles89959 ай бұрын

    All my aircraft are now ultralights

  • @TimMcKay56

    @TimMcKay56

    9 ай бұрын

    Copy!

  • @paulwesterveld5900
    @paulwesterveld59009 ай бұрын

    Audio is no problem.

  • @TimMcKay56

    @TimMcKay56

    9 ай бұрын

    Thanks!

  • @sgtsawhill1
    @sgtsawhill19 ай бұрын

    Thank god for remote id. This will save thousands of lives every year. It has been sad to see the hundreds of aircraft crashing due to getting hit by a turbo timber. The FAA and NTSB need to crack down on this. I have NEVER heard of a single engine manned aircraft crashing and killing people in the last 20 years....... wait.....

  • @TimMcKay56

    @TimMcKay56

    9 ай бұрын

    Copy!

  • @charlenemyers188
    @charlenemyers1885 ай бұрын

    "No one has to comply with the temote ID requirement until March 16, (2024)". Tim, this is an incorrect statement. According to FAA 107: "A UAS ID drone can not fly with the UAS ID is disabled." Rogue drone operators are titillated to commit stealth, covert actions (usually against an unsuspecting imposed enemy).

  • @TimMcKay56

    @TimMcKay56

    5 ай бұрын

    Whatever. Anyone who purchased a drone after Dec 22, 2022 is compliant as Standard RID is installed. But no FAA enforcement until March 16, 2024. Tim

  • @timothyciarlette8250
    @timothyciarlette82509 ай бұрын

    The microphone was very bass-y.

  • @TimMcKay56

    @TimMcKay56

    9 ай бұрын

    Copy!

  • @lawrencecarlson2425
    @lawrencecarlson24259 ай бұрын

    Microphone works great.

  • @TimMcKay56

    @TimMcKay56

    9 ай бұрын

    Thanks! Tim

  • @larryblanks6765
    @larryblanks67659 ай бұрын

    I think only quadcopters should be required to run RID their the ones spying in windows.

  • @TimMcKay56

    @TimMcKay56

    9 ай бұрын

    Copy!

  • @russelljohnson6243
    @russelljohnson62439 ай бұрын

    I think I will just sell my drone and forget about flying, period. I don't see any incentive to continue enjoying my hobby because I see nothing but trouble and continued interference by the FAA in the future.

  • @TimMcKay56

    @TimMcKay56

    9 ай бұрын

    Russell: This is one, single regulation. Are you possibly overreacting a bit? Tim

  • @ericew

    @ericew

    9 ай бұрын

    You're not wrong. I saw the writing on the wall when they came out with section 107. Came back recently to watch some videos to see if I wanted to get back into the hobby and I find that the "overrating doomers" were spot on 8 years ago. Until the courts put the FAA in their place you can expect a never-ending parade of regulations which will slowly price or frustrate you out of the hobby.

  • @craigsawyer6453
    @craigsawyer64539 ай бұрын

    As it stands you have a great deal of protection as a land owner: in that, it requires a warrant form a judge for law enforcement to enter your property. It would be an incredible waist of time and money to require the process of obtaining a warrant for every minor infraction or complaint if the FAA allowed a FRIA in the back yards of the enthusiasts that wanted one. The requirement of remote ID is a small price to pay to keep your freedom intact.

  • @TimMcKay56

    @TimMcKay56

    9 ай бұрын

    Lots more to learn! Tim

  • @frankmoreau8847

    @frankmoreau8847

    9 ай бұрын

    All law enforce needs to enter your property is reasonable suspicion or at most, probable cause. FAA detects a drone illegally flying, that lands on your property, that is enough cause to enter your property and ask questions. To enter your residence, or conduct a search of your property would indeed require a warrant

  • @shadowofchaosfpv4683

    @shadowofchaosfpv4683

    9 ай бұрын

    You also have the right to remain silent and not aid the police or FAA in any investigation. If asked by police or FAA official, say I don't answer questions. And all questions must go through my lawyer.

  • @slapdat.byteme

    @slapdat.byteme

    9 ай бұрын

    Actually, the non-compliance with RID is the ONLY way to keep your freedom intact.

  • @thatairplaneguy
    @thatairplaneguy9 ай бұрын

    If I can’t have a FRIA on my own property then I’ll fly anyway.

  • @TimMcKay56

    @TimMcKay56

    9 ай бұрын

    Copy!

  • @Roundawg
    @Roundawg9 ай бұрын

    How bout why can’t I just have a flying club in my county? This horse has been beaten to death.

  • @TimMcKay56

    @TimMcKay56

    9 ай бұрын

    Actually, you can set up an AMA club and apply for a FRIA. An AMA club needs five adults over 18 and a $40 fee. Once set up, apply for a FRIA and fly with no RID hardware. Tim

  • @jackguinn8462
    @jackguinn84629 ай бұрын

    In that case let's just penalize all the kite fliers as well! Make them use FRIAS as well and limit them to 40'! I rest my case.

  • @TimMcKay56

    @TimMcKay56

    9 ай бұрын

    Copy! Note that kites, control line and free flight exempt from RID. 😁 Tim

  • @jackguinn8462

    @jackguinn8462

    9 ай бұрын

    @@TimMcKay56 they are still taking up air space,what is the difference?

  • @smesui1799

    @smesui1799

    9 ай бұрын

    ​​​​@@jackguinn8462Perhaps the two jewish senators who drummed-up this madness back in 2016 had _9_1_1_ on their minds ?

  • @jackguinn8462

    @jackguinn8462

    9 ай бұрын

    @@TimMcKay56 a sub 250 quad is supposed to exempt from all that malarky as long as you use it for recreational purposes only. Is what I read.

  • @TimMcKay56

    @TimMcKay56

    9 ай бұрын

    @@jackguinn8462 Correct. RID is tied to registration. Planes less than 250 grams do not need registration, thus no RID. Tim

  • @jongonegone1262
    @jongonegone12629 ай бұрын

    its here to stay, and rc flying is almost done !!!! nobody needs this crap.

  • @TimMcKay56

    @TimMcKay56

    9 ай бұрын

    RID is here to stay, recreational RC flying will be just fine. Tim

  • @GuyDuke-cg4dg
    @GuyDuke-cg4dg9 ай бұрын

    The FAA never had the legal right to mandate the drone registration. What is the current status of the legal action against that illegal mandate. This next step is an add on to the prior cash grab they started and so many thousands of people simply complied. I would suspect they lack the legal standing to force this new mandate as well and until people take this to court, they will just do what they want................You are already expressing what they want, control and the opportunity to grab more money. This just pushes a dying hobby further into the grave..............

  • @TimMcKay56

    @TimMcKay56

    9 ай бұрын

    The FAA has full Congressional authority (and direction, by the way) to register drones. As well as write the Remote ID regulation. Google "Code of Federal Regulations" for further details. And the RC hobby will do just fine. Tim

  • @GuyDuke-cg4dg

    @GuyDuke-cg4dg

    9 ай бұрын

    Sure, thats why they lost in court the first round and it was only due to other court rules that reversed their original case to reinstate their illegal move.... @@TimMcKay56