Sad that we have to protect stupid people from their own stupidity.

@mayhemmike1789

6 жыл бұрын

Formidable38 thats what happens in the absence of natural selection

@Cryptonymicus

6 жыл бұрын

Generally speaking, you're really protecting other people from the stupidity of stupid people. Like the guy who steps into a crosswalk without bothering to look for approaching cars. If the stupid guy gets hit, some other person's car gets damaged or wrecked and the people in that vehicle may very well go to hospital. As for trains, take a look at interviews with train drivers who've had people walk, run, or drive in front of their trains.

@isaaccruzg

3 жыл бұрын

Exactly. This shows that there are idiot people in all the world. No matter if is a developed country or not.

It's comforting to know that 98% of people out their are unfathomably less intelligent than me.

seems like the crossing is working as intended.

@Planet_Ronnie

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah

Where I live we don't even have fences around rails. They pass through the middle of towns and people know not to stand in front of trains. It helps that you can hear the train horn from at least a mile away.

@samuelfellows6923

3 жыл бұрын

🇮🇳?

@SgtChip

3 жыл бұрын

Probably not. Train horns from a mile away sounds a lot like the United States to me. Those K5LLAs will wake the dead.

Not sure why but I'm reminded of Jeff Bridges talking as the alien in Starman "green light means go, red light means stop, amber light means go very fast"

@HentisRail

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah you are not far off. :)

Nobody crossing the railway knowing that the train is coming takes responsibility for their actions, teaching youngsters how to possibly get killed, but the outcry and the blaming of network rails equipment would be all that people would be concerned about, if somebody was killed. Shut the road . Fence it off ...

@mikecartlidge5355

2 жыл бұрын

Spot on, make em use the foot bridge.

@Ameliathehorsegirl

Жыл бұрын

@@mikecartlidge5355 no cause that doesn’t work people will probably be stupid and tresspass

I've never seen an introduction so long

@cat1554

7 жыл бұрын

Lewis Kelly I've seen that kind of template so its a intro with the channels logo by youtube

@HentisRail

7 жыл бұрын

CAT1554 Yes the intro is a template. The logo is mine and not You Tubes and was done by me.

Level crossings are recipes for trouble at the best of times. Putting cars into the path of trains at public rights of way is one thing, but to have the situation like they have in Poole, where High Street Level Crossing doesn't even have car traffic, it makes even less sense. Hopefully the local council will see sense and close the level crossing permanently, replacing it with an accessible under/overpass for disabled people to use in safety without coming into conflict with the trains

In the US, passenger rail does not have barriers unless it's on a sidewalk. Usually it's just a set of pedestrian signal, like on a regular traffic light. Even on high capacity transit like LIRR, or Caltrain. For some reason we don't get crushed by trains.

In the past there would have been railway gates (not barriers) and a crossing keeper. In the UK railway crossings shut much earlier than the rest of the world, leading to an unnecessarily long waiting time, which in turn leads to people becoming impatient. Idiots have, and always will exist. Just maybe the answer lies in the past (railway gates and a full time crossing keeper), although the best solution would be an underpass. This video shows clearly that those in charge are putting saving money ahead of saving lives. Monitoring this crossing from so far away by people who are not familiar with the location is a cost cutting measure too far. To close the crossing permanently would not inconvenience the majority of people as there is a footbridge, but the elderly, less mobile and mums with prams would be inconvenienced. Why does this video not make it clear what the alternative method of crossing the line is? Network rail's cost cutting created this problem, but they blame everyone else. A quick solution is to install much smaller permanently manned gates to allow those who would have difficulty crossing the bridge to cross on the level. Perhaps the extra cost should be shared between Network Rail and Poole Borough Council.

@1ownp3opl3

6 жыл бұрын

why don't they just close the railway crossing entirely and replace the stairs with a ramp on the footbridge?

@Dosedmonkey

6 жыл бұрын

Vasu Sam The footbridge is too small for the amount of people. It is right at the busy end of a high street. Why not create a foot tunnel. Would be best solution as it would need less depth, then a bridge need height. Meaning less distance for ramp. Not that expensive for a town centre. Should of been done decades ago.

@MervynPartin

6 жыл бұрын

Risk has to be managed, and the usual criterion is ALARP- as low as reasonably practicable. The cost of replacing every crossing on the network would just bankrupt Network Rail which means that there would be no more trains at all. May sound safe, but the increase in road traffic would lead to even more RTA deaths. I do not believe that in this particular case, that there is an easy answer other than what has already been done.

Across the pond we don't have signalmen or controllers worrying themselves about spots where roadways cross tracks, that's what they invented track circuits for circa 1909. When activated, the crossing bells sound, not some wimpy electronic beep-beep, then the flashing red lights come one, decent-sized ones, six inches across. Then the crossing gates, if they exist, are lowered. Then the oncoming train blows its multiple-chime air horn starting at roughly 15-20 seconds before getting to the crossing consisting of two long blasts, a short blast, and another long blast, with the last blast lasting all the way until the train crosses the roadway. If you're stupid enough to still be on the tracks at that point, then you deserve to get hit.

@MalaysiaPhilip

3 жыл бұрын

I'd be pretty pissed if I lived next to a US rail crossing. Here we get the beep beep and if you're stupid enough not to adhere then it's your own fault. Constant bell chiming and that awful train horn racket in the US every time a train came through would drive most people inasne.

@h.calvert3165

3 жыл бұрын

@@MalaysiaPhilip It's the same here in Canada, & I can assure you that this is happening mostly out in the countryside. You just don't have lots of rail lines running through cities or even towns over here. In England & Europe there are a lot more trains. 🚂

@SgtChip

3 жыл бұрын

@@MalaysiaPhilip I can understand how someone who's lived in the UK their whole life and is used to the "beep beep" Yodalarms and E2Ss, but you get used to the E Bells over here. I couldn't imagine having a crossing without the E Bell, or a mechanical bell. The horns are commonplace, and once you've been around them a while, you get used to it. It becomes less of an annoyance and more of a background noise, even a bit melodic.

@rafaelrazzo8614

2 жыл бұрын

@@SgtChip Agreed

There is a perfectly good foot bridge, and yet someone put in a level crossing? Why!?

@HentisRail

Жыл бұрын

Because when the Level crossing was built along with the footbridge, back in the 1800's, there was a busy road that went through the high street.

What to do with this would depend on how often that actually happens. If it serves like 3 trains a day, then fine, if the odd person gets hit on the head by a barrier due to their own stupidity, they can put a long buffer time in to make sure they sort themselves out before the train comes. If this is happening every 15 minutes, then a solution is required, because the chance of someone getting hit is pretty high, and the amount of people who would see that is high too. What amazes me is the people who are clearly in no particular hurry, who you might get stuck behind while they wander aimlessly about the shops with no plan of buying anything, suddenly have a burst of energy because they might have to stand at a barrier for a whole minute or ascend a flight of stairs.

Anyone else remember respect, and when people weren' t usually morons?

Permanently close the level crossing, build a wider bridge over it, install lifts at both ends for those who are unable (or too lazy) to use the stairs. Problem solved.

Some natural selection moments gonna happen frequently there I suspect!

I always thought Dorset folk were a bit dim and this proves it, especially as there's a foot bridge - which you don't often see by crossings - right next to it.

@HentisRail

3 жыл бұрын

Only some of them NOT all of them lol

Accident waiting to happen, and when it does the poor family of the Si that gets killed will blame Network Rail and not their relative.

I remember the Gates (Big Wooden Ones that made a satisfying crashing sound when they closed) were controlled by a man in a box (no longer there, was in the top left side of these views) who had a massive great brass wheel he had to turn, once he got those gates moving they would sweep any dalliers out of the way - still either braining them or trapping them on the tracks is progress I suppose. There used to be a second set of gates about 70 yards beyond these gates next to Poole station, at least Poole Council redesigned the town to remove these in the 1970s along with any 'historic character' the town had left.

1:17 look how close the barrier came from hitting these two people on right hand side of the camera

@amadeosendiulo2137

Жыл бұрын

*look how these two people were standing close to the barrier when the alarm was set on

How about some barriers that raise up out of the ground instead? Locals know they can shove these barriers around if they want to, but a solid, heavy 6 foot high wall suddenly appearing might make them think twice. Have police waiting during say a 2 week trial period. Rescue the folk before the train comes through, but fine them immediately for trespass. I love this crossing, many happy memories of my son as a toddler, in his Thomas the Tank Engine phase, standing by the crossing for literally hours waving at the trains. And losing it would pretty much cost Poole the high street as nobody would venture out of the mall anymore.

I just want to point out that if the crossing closes then there has to be some sort of replacement step / Ramp that has to be approved for disabled persons to use. Not only will this effectively cut the high street into two but it will cause alot more hardships to shop owners trying to woo the customers in. Its not a point about well if they close it go another route. (although the nearest subway that will go under the railway is a mere 5 minute walk away but about 15 minutes if you want to get to say a shop on the left hand side of the level crossing. The problem is that the idiots that do misuse this are the ones that will complain the most when its gone. Trying to educate people is a no no here they just dont want to know.

@NewBuildmini

8 жыл бұрын

What about a subway? The subway has a ramp. Pedestrians can use a bridge or subway whatever is more preffered to them.

@z00h

7 жыл бұрын

You can run some sort of safe for cattle but still giving a buzz current that will give those fuckers incentive they need to get the fuck out of the crossing. These cunters choose to ignore the rules hence they need to be treated like animals.

@LukeLovesMc

7 жыл бұрын

my dad goes to poole EVERY SUNDAY! if they close this im gonna complain like fuck because theres a fedora shop over the other side

@lumpycharlie

7 жыл бұрын

There is a footbridge already.

@HentisRail

7 жыл бұрын

Which is totally inadequate to take disabled people, people pushchairs and prams across a closed level crossing.

In the first clip I counted 9 people crossing the track as the sirens were sounding, 1 of which was on a bloody phone. In the second clip I counted 17 crossing, including one pushing a child in a pushchair. In the third clip there were 15 who started to cross after the sirens sounded. BRAINS. Impatience can kill.

The Solution is Simple, Large Lifts (like those in use at, I believe, Queensway Tube Station (I believe they have the capacity of about 50 people or so)), attached to an overhead or underground walkway. That, combine with the footbridge would provide more than enough capacity, and allow disabled people access also. Either that or one of the local bus companies provide a free bus to connect one side of the town to the other. That is beyond dangerous there!

It seems to be a full barrier LC which would be monitored from the nearest box( wherever that should be now. Exeter? ) So the trains won't get the road until the crossing is clear. However it interrupts the sequence if people have the gates drop on them( as seen) and what we didn't see is any likely lads vaulting over and running which I imagine happens on a Friday night quite often. A few prosecutions might help

@HentisRail

7 жыл бұрын

Its a full barrier LC monitored and manually controlled from a panel in a signalling center some 60 miles away in Basingstoke. It used to be controlled and monitored just round the corner in the signall box at Poole but when the new signalling was commissioned control of the line between Poole & Wool moved to Basingstoke. All the local boxes were closed and knocked down. Hey The CPS dont even prosecute the idiots that were trespassing on the line watching the Flying Scotsman go by earlier on this year.

This is why level crossings get closed and you have to walk 5 minutes to get to the other side.

@xaiano794

8 жыл бұрын

Jason Page One got closed near me after someone was killed, people just wouldn't wait for the 20-30s it took for the train to pass, now we all have to walk 5 minutes to get around to the other side. It's just irritating that people are thick that they can't see that the 30s they are saving today is going to cost them 10x that time later

@blueshrimp6716

3 жыл бұрын

@Jason Page guess you've never heard of disabled people. Google them 🙂

im on the side of network rail here as the crossing is being abused by morons who think they can out run something weighing around 150 to 300 tonnes, moves in excess of 70 mph and takes about half a bloody mile to stop! most of all there is a bleeding bridge next to the crossing the crossing is surplus to requirement.

Ozzy Man Reviews should do this Level Crossing

@HentisRail

2 жыл бұрын

lol Do it!

Dig out a subway underneath, simples. NR's stated intention is to close as many level crossings as they can, and fair play to them.

Reminds me of the way cats behave when they see a door closing. They just have to dive through at the last possible instant before they get crushed. Perhaps there is some primal sub-conscious reflex at work here; the normally sensible people putting their lives at risk despite all the bells, whistles and barriers.

@HentisRail

7 жыл бұрын

It does doesnt it :)

@russellbrown7028

7 жыл бұрын

Yes, railway level crossings have been a contentious issue right from the earliest days . Wherever the capital has been available , sensible engineers have always sought to exclude them completely. The Poole case is fascinating, because the non-disabled punters don't have to wait at all; just expend a few extra joules to walk over the entirely adequate footbridge, but psychologically, that is apparently quite a big ask. Incidentally, when I worked as a bus driver, I always refused service to intending passengers who ran in front of the bus waving their arms as I departed from a stop. They used to get very angry........which was sad.

@HentisRail

7 жыл бұрын

Hey if they can run for a bus thats leaving they can run home :)

@highdownmartin

7 жыл бұрын

russell brown All railways built in mainland UK. POST 1863 have had bridges built not lc's. The act of of parliament that year obliged all croosings to be gated and attended to by a keeper. Much more expensive than a bridge now!!

How distant is the oncoming train at the point when the alarm sounds, and how close when the gate comes down? How much time do people have to clear the way when a train approaches at maximum speed? How many deaths/close calls have there been at this crossing? Just considering...

@HentisRail

7 жыл бұрын

1). How distant is the oncoming train at the point when the alarm sounds? No idea. The crossing is controlled from a panel in a signalling center some 65 miles away. 2). and how close when the gate comes down? Sometimes you might have to wait upto 5 or 6 minutes. But thats the signallers discression 65 miles away as he is setting the route for other services. 3). How much time do people have to clear the way when a train approaches at maximum speed? Again these barriers are manually controlled from the box in Basingstoke so its again the signallers discretion. The maximum line speed across the crossing in both directions is 20 mph. 4). How many deaths/close calls have there been at this crossing? The only deaths at the crossing occured a few years ago when two people wandered off the public path across the line and onto the actual railway line heading towards the railway station (away from the camera). They were both elctrocuted when one of them fell and touched the live rail and the other one died as he helped the other guy to get up. Not caused by the level crossing but by stupidity!!! As per close calls there have been quite a few. People dont listen to you when you tell them that the barriers can raise up unexpectedly after the train has passed. Some kids have been raised in the air as the barrier lifted up because they were on the skirt of the barrier. Others have been hit as the barriers have been going down because they dont stop when the lights and sirens start, which the video clearly shows. The video was of 3 instances filmed over a 45 minute period. This happens every day and night.

@SupernalOne

7 жыл бұрын

HentisD6569 thanks for the detailed answer

@stevebrown2208

7 жыл бұрын

Poole station is about 50 metres around the corner from this crossing. All trains going through here are either stopping to come into the station, or just coming out of the station. So no trains go through here at high speed, as far as i know.

@SupernalOne

7 жыл бұрын

Steve Brown so maybe more nuisance than hazard - OK, just wondering, the trains through my side of Bethesda MD are usually going 70-110 km/hr when they approach the pedestrian crosswalks, it would be tempting fate to dash across the tracks at times

@roberthuron9160

3 жыл бұрын

US practice,is to have track circuits well in advance of crossing! Network Rail,could use a very simple solution,install LOCAL TRACK CIRCUITS, especially in blind curve areas,as Poole,obviously is,and then the gates would much faster to react! Old answers to contemporary situations! Tend to doubt the bureaucracy would do that easy,and simple solution!

The ideal situation here ( i have crossed here on several occasions when out shopping) would be one of a few solutions: One: close the railways ! Two: Close the High St ! Three: Close all the shops ! Four: Close Poole ! - Seriously, this crossing is fine when used as per intended !!!

the fact that you can see a disabled person on the right at the very end of the video makes it obvious how stupid people who would rather waste more energy sprinting over the crossing and risking their life than going up the safe overpass ruin everything

lol, that scream at the end tho..

@HentisRail

7 жыл бұрын

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wilhelm_scream kzread.info/dash/bejne/Zo140td6aZOxdbw.html

Just remove the barriers - and the intro :)

to be fair, I live in that area and the barriers go down about 5 minutes before the train even gets there

@tonys4250

4 жыл бұрын

The train is not going to get there before the barriers are down.

@Brad_1511

3 жыл бұрын

@@tonys4250 well done mate, I knew you were smart Sir Tony, proud of you

Humans’ thought process: Siren sounds - let's make a dash for it, even though we weren't anywhere near the crossing to begin with.

@neilfranklin5644

3 жыл бұрын

If you are on the crossing dash to the otger side, if you are not on it stop! and use the bridge,

Insane crossing, there will be accidents. If shops, kiosks back onto the gates , people will just use the stairs, it's good exercise. There needs to be a facility for disabled.

@kevinmarshall5431

Жыл бұрын

The bridge may need to be widened to accommodate wheeled users. Especially so when gates come down

Where is this located???

Ah yes so when it makes a noise you can cross

And European people call us Americans lazy, trying to beat a RR gate when there's literally a bridge right next to it.

the best way to fix this would be a over bridge or tunnel under/over the tracks- although this is probably very expensive

@ThomasFarquhar2

2 жыл бұрын

Well the camera is standing on a bridge over the crossing but making it bigger would definitely cost a lot and stop what seems to be a large amount of train travel judging by location

In my home city of Brisbane, Australia bridges and subways are the stanadrd for new construction, along with full exclusion fencing and CCTV moniitoring of stations. However, there are still a good many level crossings protected by American-style half barrier booms and (more recently) pedestrian gates. Completely avoidable accidents still occur, leaving transport authorities perplexed as to just what level of exclusion is required to ensure safety. The suburban lineside fencing is 12 foot high and works reasonably well, presenting a challenge even for the most athletic kangaroos. Suicides are a major problem and source of operational chaos. Media policy is never to report a railway suicide as such in order to limit "copy-cat" repetitions.

What's the point tof the crossing if when there is a bridge right next to it?

@TrainNutter

7 жыл бұрын

Idiotic pedestrians... there worse than drivers jumping the lights... (In some cases)

@TrainNutter

7 жыл бұрын

I thought so when I was writing but i changed it :P

@bingola45

7 жыл бұрын

I think that motor-cars can also use it, and people with prams and wheelchairs.

@HentisRail

7 жыл бұрын

+bingola45 motor vehicles including emergency vehicles can use it for access.

Is this the one in Poole? The bridge going off to one side looks very familiar, as well as the street layout.

@HentisRail

6 жыл бұрын

Yes it is.

A similar problem occurs at Grays in Essex, however the crossing as at the end of the Station so most passenger trains stop anyway, however, there are freight trains that don't.

@HentisRail

7 жыл бұрын

Is this the Level crossing where two girls were killed and apparently Network Rail took full liability a few years back?

Jeezus, I can see why. Definitely needs crossing. Line speed along that section could even be increased too without this hazard here.

@HentisRail

6 жыл бұрын

TheSaintST1 erm no as it goes on a 20 chain curve into the station.

Ahh, so the warning sign doesn't mean stop, it means start running because you might just make it.

Why does this give me anxiety

@HentisRail

3 жыл бұрын

I dont know , why does it give you anxiety?

@animesimpcookie3752

3 жыл бұрын

@@HentisRail I don't like seeing people potentially in danger or anything like that also you get a time limit before a train could run you over

When was this filmed as I went to poole today at 1

@HentisRail

8 жыл бұрын

+dorset steam boy I filmed this between 10:15 and 10:45. Admittedly it wasnt really busy as it was still a tad too early but that's an awful amount of idiots misusing the crossing.

@most_hat3d502

8 жыл бұрын

+HentisD6569 yh I see y thay want to close it but how are people going to get across the track surely thay cant fit a bridge there

@HentisRail

8 жыл бұрын

+dorset steam boy The Bridge will have to be DDa (not DDOA....) compliant with ramps up the bridge to allow access to wheel chair users and pedestrians alike. there is not enough room for that to happen in the small space. To me an underpass would be the better option. All this after they spent about a couple of million in re signalling, relaying and putting in new barriers .

@r11r1r1

8 жыл бұрын

+HentisD6569 sup

@DavidWood2

8 жыл бұрын

+HentisD6569 The Disability Discrimination Acts 1995 and 2005 were repealed and replaced by the Equality Act 2010, which consolidates several anti-discrimination measures as well as some new provisions in a single Act of Parliament. That said, the provisions relating to disability are the old DDAs, with some additions (not all of which have been brought into operation). I agree with your key message - crossing misuse is clearly evident at this location, with far too many "special snowflakes" who believe they are entitled to break the rules. Able bodied pedestrians can bypass the crossing using the footbridge - or wait. Unfortunately these special snowflakes, who believe that they are entitled to do as they wish no matter what the impact on anyone else, make everyone else pay the price of their selfishness.

I've two words for a solution, "Grade separation".

Where is that

This crossing is dangerously busy and overcrowded. It is, in the viewed state NOT a place where the distractions of shopping should be mixed with rail safety! However, given that trains usually do not tolerate more than a 3% grade, the amount of land management changes that likely would be needed to change the level of the trasins would likely be preposterous. I wonder (attn: Network Rail) how practical it would be to have the whole roadway run over the existing level of the tracks, but enhanced with added width used as a new shopping center, part of the cost being covered by revenus from Merchant concessions. The enhancement for the merchants and shoppers would also be that shopping would be essentially indoors, and more amenable in inclement weather. Maybe a Restaurant or stylish pub built at one side of the second storey venue with an overlook of the trains and tracks and a "railfan" theme might be an interesting idea! Further away from the panoramic windows, and area of Wi-Fi and dine so railfans can consult timetables and other rail interests without crowding the view for those who prefer to watch the real thing. Given that managing a shopping center is not exactly in the mainstrean of Network Rail's interest, it might be worthwhile for parliament to do some background pondering how this could be semi=separated from the main work of Network rail, yet still adequately regulated to ensure that that separation does not engender undue conflicts between the infrastructure needs of the railways and that of the commercial needs and interests of the locality? Since such deliberation could open the door for similar situations in other parts of the U.K., I think it would behoove parlaiment toconsider carefully the long-term inuendoes with considerable care! Given that I am in Canada, where we don't have anything near the population density of England, this fascinates, but retired at age 71 and on limited budget, I could not afford to visit myself.

@LukeLovesMc

7 жыл бұрын

1st off: english please 2nd: if it closes that high street will be wrecked, as its VERY close to the sea i think you get the idea

People just go Over when the lights are on lol

@HentisRail

2 жыл бұрын

yep

They should make the pedestrian path a depression underneath the tracks.

This looks like the crossing in Poole Dorset. Can you confirm?

@HentisRail

6 жыл бұрын

Yes it is.

Perhaps for a week the barriers could squirt indelible blue ink down on the cretins who start to cross long after the warning sound starts. I've stopped at a level crossing before (in my car) only to be overtaken by a numbskull behind me who had to speed up around the lowering barrier as it came down. If they want to kill themselves they shouldn't be so selfish towards the train driver, passengers and emergency services who have to deal with their stupidity!

@darksome420 Because they would sue Network Rail (and possibly even the train company) as it was their fault and not the persons.... even though the idiots were ignoring the sirens and lights that were obviously working......... There have been instances where people ignored the lights and siren and just ran across and got smacked on the noggin by one of the barriers were coming down. Some have tired to sue as well.

Can’t some people just wait patiently...?

Where is that at

@HentisRail

3 жыл бұрын

Its in the description

cant they just put in a bridge type subway where its as wide as the current crossing? If they can replace a railway bridge over a weekend (which ive seen done in the uk) then a couple of extra days on top of that and problem solved.If Civil engineering can thread a tunnel boring machine across the other underground lines and buildings sub basment depth this would be a walk in the park.Yes its all about cost BUT some costs we just have to swallow.

Well as I always say " lemmings must be directed to the sea".

Looks to be working like it should. Once the barriers are down everyone used the bridge no one tried to climb over.

@HentisRail

4 жыл бұрын

There are instances where it had happened. I didn't say they were in this video.

So there is a bridge so you can walk above but the level crossing is still there?!

is it still used as a crossing for vehicles? if not then close it otherwise the only purpose it serves is to sort the wheat from the chaff

@HentisRail

7 жыл бұрын

Its used occasionaly for vehicular traffic for access only. Again Closing the crossing is not a viable option because it will cut off direct access to the rest of the high street.

@HentisRail

7 жыл бұрын

in its current location there is no place to have a new footbridge with disabled access. They mooted about building a bridge with full disabled access further up the line but that would move it away from the high street and the shops, which would affect foot fall along the high street and in the shops that are struggling at the moment.

It is a well-known fact that when someone else is on the crossing, it is safe for you to cross, or they wouldn't be there. A bit like traffic lights; if the car in front has slipped through on amber, it is safe for you to follow, even if it means blocking a yellow-box junction.

@HentisRail

4 жыл бұрын

Not when the barriers are about to come down and smack you on the head it isnt.

This 3D view probably illustrates the problem with installing an alternative: there's virtually no room between the tracks and the shops - the footbridge just about squeezes in and it's likely that at peak times, if the crossing was closed, there'd be pedestrian congestion at peak times. You might be able to squeeze in a pedestrian underpass on the opposite side to the bridge, but the only way to get rid of the spoil would be via Vanguard Road - fine for that side of the tracks, but what about the other side? Ironically, it looks as though there could have been a missed opportunity in the past, namely during construction of the Dolphin shopping centre on the NW side of the tracks, and/or the Leaders + Betfred building on the SW side.. www.google.co.uk/maps/place/Poole/@50.7188266,-1.9851938,179a,20y,115.14h,56.92t/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x4873a0b58d42cecd:0xb0d1a294691958a7!8m2!3d50.71505!4d-1.987248

could do with dropping the gates on a few fake occasions but have someone over a tannoy identifying individuals and point out the error of their ways in as polite a manner that they can muster up.

How about a stair-well walkway, up and over the c tossing, with slope up and down wheel chair ramp...

@HentisRail

3 жыл бұрын

Not enough room.

I went to Poole on the south Western railway

Cant see no reason to close this, why ??

@hovnarren

7 жыл бұрын

***** bad english people, really?

Oh look it’s me with my family on the last clip wow that was ages ago now (this is the kid from today 27th of June)

Close it. If they're just going to continue ignoring the sirens, the convenience of the crossing should be taken away, and they have to climb the stairs on a permanent basis which serves them right.

There are long waits at English and Irish level crossings. Long noise, gates close, long wait, two car train, long wait gates rise. Trains have pathetic noises to warn. How about a Leslie five chime horn? Clear out real fast.

You wouldn't be allowed to build a crossing like that in Canada - there's always a far side escape. In Calgary for the LRT there are also one-way gates for pedestrians. One of the problems with this design is that it's possible to get into the exclusion area while the gate is coming down but then not get back out. Blame people all you want, but that's a design flaw. That's because at the moment they enter the exclusion area it still looks like they can get back out. How about a third barrier between the tracks and lower that one first? With the way out visibly removed before the other barriers even start to come down, any residual incentive to try to run the near side barriers as they start to lower is completely removed.

Problem not the crossing it's the people

I’ve seen somebody stuck behind the barriers before. Surprisingly the crossing hasn’t changed.

@rosiegiesler4705

2 жыл бұрын

That fact that sombody got stuck beyhind a barrier tells us more about that person than the national rail.

Its amazing how stupid the average person is, but of course its easier to blame someone else for the problem (Network Rail) rather than the lemmings running across a track whilst the sirens are going.

I am always amazed by the number of level crossings along the south coast. Living in GWR territory they are really rare. Could the heart of the problem be that some companies refused to move into the 19th century and believe that something like a main high street (as here) is nothing compared to the rights of the Permanent Way - its about society values, close the town centre down or modernise the line. Running an 19th century line in a twenty-first century world is always going to be expensive but change does need to come - incidentally I lived in a house where the garden wall was made from the original "rails" (slots in stone rather that rails above the ground) from the original Stockton-Darlington railway. At some point they had the foresight to rip them up and put rails in - or the railways would have died at birth - maybe a lesson here.

When u are passing and u are on the crossing u can’t do anything about it like when the beams come down and I’m still at the crossing then I can’t do anything about it

@HentisRail

3 жыл бұрын

The rule of thumb is that when you approach the level crossing and the audible siren and lights are flashing you DONT run across the level crossing as the barriers are coming down. You STOP and WAIT until the crossing is open again.

This is Poole I went there on holiday.

to be honest I don't see the problem. the alarms suddenly go's off and people cross as fast as they can before the barriers come down.

Where was the problem?

This is at least as serious an offence as using a mobile while driving, so why not have an appropriate fine; say £200 for starting to cross after the warning sounds?

@oscillation9814

7 жыл бұрын

lsbrother What an interesting idea! Still, you'd always get the idiots who couldn't care less.. but it could lower the number of 'Idiots''!

@formidable38

7 жыл бұрын

exactly. people do It because there is no deterant and they know that the chances of them being caught and fined are extremely low.

The alarm goes, people are dumb enough to not know that a train might hit them. They are more impatient than I have ever seen before. They could be stuck on that line if they didn't move quick enough. The rail services should make a subway under the rail to get across. Also there should be stairs, and a lift for disabled people, or a ramp. And also down there a few shops.

wich city?

@HentisRail

8 жыл бұрын

Poole in Dorset.

@derunbekannte5430

8 жыл бұрын

Thx bro!

You dont have to sell this idea. the footage really does demonstrate the ineptitude of some folks. A deathtrap. Have there been many incidents?

they want to close it because of 1D10TS

If you add up the people that cross the railway line and those that are on trains you find that more traffic goes by foot or car at the crossing, so why does the train not give way to the road and people on foot as they are on the major route...... just a thought worth contemplating.

@HentisRail

7 жыл бұрын

+Chris Anderson The railways have priority in this country. Also common sense should prevail.

@steamhammer2k

7 жыл бұрын

yeh i know, I was joking :-), I was surprised to find out that 25,000 people cross the line here each day surely NR cannot think for moment that it is acceptable to close the crossing. Talk about arrogance of an organisation thinking they can just close it, they need more imagination to deal with the safety issue

"Due to the movement away from the local signaller in his small signal box and the placing of this crossing on a much larger panel at Basingstoke, signallers are finding it increasingly difficult to undertake their job effectively and safely." So Network Rail are admitting that the closure of local boxes is making things less safe. Why are the unions not striking about this?

@HentisRail

6 жыл бұрын

Thats something that the unions can answer and not me i am afraid.

The first problem here is that there realistically isn't enough room to build an adequate bridge over the tracks without interfering without the existing buildings nearest to the crossing. To raise the rail line up onto a bridge would cost millions and take months, whilst a replacement bus service runs between Poole and Parkstone. Just not an option realistically. The best thing to do here is replace the barriers with brick walls and then dig a pedestrian tunnel under the track. Yes, you'd have countless shoppers complaining about having to go over that footbridge in single file but they'd just have to suck it up - I guess you could erect another temporary bridge to ease congestion, provided you could either move or build overhead the green transformer box. But yeah, until then somebody's probably gonna get hit by a train.

What the video does not show is the 5mins to 9mins wait for a train cross. The longest time I had to wait in rain for the crossing to open up was 11mins as a train was running into the station, and there was one on the station, oh yes why did I have to wait, I use a wheelchair

@HentisRail

6 жыл бұрын

The videos was edited to remove that as its wasnt needed. The reason why the barriers do come down so early is that as soon as trains approach Parkstone station heading to Poole the signal man sets the route and that includes the barriers being lowered irrespective of the train stopping at Parkstone or not. As for trains approaching Poole from Weymouth direction then its usually as they approach the station, whether they are coming from Weymouth or the berthing sidings..

Is it weird how I once lived there and now it's on yt

Insane

Why is there this problem with level crossings. I was a BR signalman and worked many crossings with both gates and barriers, the worst being a pedestrian crossing in the centre of Grays which had the same problems as shown in this video. At barriers the instructions are simple, "When lights begin to flash DO NOT CROSS" yet on this video people completely disregard what is in fact THE LAW! After leaving BR, I spent a lot of time in Holland and noticed a completely different attitude there. Once the lights start flashing, cars, cyclist and pedestrians OBEY and do not start to cross. It seems in the UK that the majority of the population seem to think that the law doesn't apply to them because they are so important, or stupid!

Alarm goes. People scamper across quickly. Your problem is?

@HentisRail

8 жыл бұрын

The fact that people are guilty of not reading the description of the video and just cowboy commenting. Infact read below. If you were unaware it is illegal to use the crossing when the amber warning lights and siren start. The fact that people are running across as the barriers are coming down as well as people misusing the crossing ie jumping over the barriers instead of waiting and lifting them up to get across them. Oh by the way the problem is the level crossing cuts across a very busy town high street will will be cut in half if the level crossing is too close and a suitable pedestrian crossing ie Bridge or Subway is not built at the crossing. Anyway onto the description, Have a read, hopefully the problem will be explained in there as well as part that I have written above. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- This video shows clearly why Network Rail want to close The High Street Level Crossing at Poole. In response to The Borough of Poole's "Town center core strategy review" Network Rail replied to The Borough of Poole "Current misuse of the crossing (both deliberate and accidental) by either swinging or climbing on the barriers or people becoming trapped is posing a safety risk." Network Rail pointed out that it became extremely busy which made it "more difficult for the controller and crossing users. " They went on further to say "Due to the movement away from the local signaller in his small signal box and the placing of this crossing on a much larger panel at Basingstoke, signallers are finding it increasingly difficult to undertake their job effectively and safely." They also add "Ideally we will be looking to close this crossing as this will provide the safest solution in combating the issues mentioned above and the increased safety risk any further development in the area would create." In the first clip you see two people Cross after the lights start flashing and the audible siren sounds. (not the people already crossing when it starts). In the second clip you see 9 People cross and one half hearted attempt after the audible siren and lights have started. And finally in the third clip you see 17 people start to cross after the siren and warning lights have started with two nearly getting caught by the barriers. Now imagine the total of 28 people were driving cars. That's at least a £400 fine plus costs and 3 penalty points on your license. I have said time & Time again if people get hit or caught in the middle of the barriers its entirely their own fault. There is a white line where the majority of people stop ..... That's where these 28 should have.Personally speaking I think they need British Transport Police down there as well as #Network Rail dishing out £400 fines as well as educational courses. I personally do not agree that this crossing should be closed. There is no way a DDOA compliant structure would fit in the space provided. AN underpass could go in. But closing it and moving access away from the high street WHERE THE SHOPS are would damage business and affect the remaining shops on the high street.

@lewiskelly14

7 жыл бұрын

+HentisD6569 you can't moan at him when you have a shit Introduction, a stupid scream at the end, and no mention in the video that he should be looking in the description

@matt-mu2xg

6 жыл бұрын

this is silly everybody saying that there stupid but there were lots of people going across and I bet half the people who are complaining would cross themselves

@SirFloofy001

6 жыл бұрын

There is literally a pedestrian bridge right next to the crossing, that's where the camera man is standing and that's why when the gates finally come down everyone starts climbing the stairs on either side.

@capnskiddies

6 жыл бұрын

I worked as a CCTV crossing keeper. I think complaining about nothing. Only one person barely delayed the crossing closure and none got themselves trapped halfway up the line.

The problem is, you'll always get misuse at crossings. However, since the high street in Poole is always fairly busier than other roads or crossings at all times, you'll get more misusers who don't have the intelligence to think that they should wait a few minutes.

I see somebody running 🏃‍♂️

Some people are so stupid they need to be taken out by the train. Unbelievable.

@HentisRail

7 жыл бұрын

I have seen what a train can do to someone and its nothing I would like to see again in a hurry.

Never mind the accessibility of the high street. We'll just cut it off at one side... Sigh...