You brought up a great point about most experiences with mental illness being non-visual in nature. Even when I experience psychosis during bipolar depression, my personal visual hallucinations don’t match popular depictions of them, and my delusional thoughts and increased obsessive thoughts are much more debilitating but are unable to be visualized. Great video!

As raunchy as it is, to me, South Park's "Feeling old yet" & "Assburgers" are 100% the perfect depiction of depression. Simply said: to Stan, everything turns to shit. Literally. His favorite music turns to fart noises, his favorite food turns to turds, actors he likes are replaced by talking poop etc. At a certain point, he doesn't feel compelled to do anything anymore and turns into a bitter person nobody wants to hang out with. Nothing actually changed in the world, but merely how he perceives it. If everything is shit, doing anything feels pointless. It made for a compelling plot and it didn't even have a happy ending. Stan became an alcoholic, since alcohol is the only thing that temporarily removes the shit, and they never bring it up again.

I'm autistic and my favorite movies about autism (as an autistic person) are Mary & Max and Stranger Than Fiction (no explicit mention of autism but very heavily coded in the main character and to an extent in another character). These are the only good movies about autism that I've seen, because they don't make the entire film about the person's autism, and rather about the story and the characters. My favorite film about mental illness in general is 12 Monkeys. I think it's so brilliant in depicting a state of mental chaos and the way mental institutions/medications fail people. As much as I love The Sixth Sense (Bruce Willis may have been in a lot of bad movies, but he was sure in some good ones in the 90s) for its tearjerking metaphor for living with mental illness/anything disbelieved by society, I equally hate many of M. Night Shamalamadoingdoing's films that portray mentally ill/disabled people as killers (which even The Sixth Sense does).

@alexz4752

2 ай бұрын

A year later, I'd recommend reading The Stranger by Albert Camus if you haven't already. The protagonist is based on a friend of Camus who's believed to have been autistic based on accounts of his life, and although the book is about the absurdity of social conventions and what we base our morality on, Camus does an excellent job of capturing the headspace of a neurodivergent who feels no attachment to himself, love, life, or death; or so he thinks.

Absolutely love this as someone interested in the intersection of psychiatry and creative writing. Very honest. Keep it up!

@user-oy6lp7pc4h

16 сағат бұрын

Not intresting ti have it its hirrible😢

I think “Monk”, while unrealistic in some aspects, did a decent job showing a mental illness (OCD and to some extent OCPD) as a chronic condition which has remissions and relapses and often makes the most mundane tasks difficult.

@TorGNorge

6 ай бұрын

Also, the aviator is pretty decent

Very well articulated. Loved it

Very thoughtful interpretation. I definitely agree, and have always thought that movies take things to the extreme in terms of exaggerating some aspects of Illness. Like split for example was ridiculous and completely unenjoyable to me for that reason, and I don't even personally relate to that condition! The great with numbers autistic savant trope is probably the least aggravating of them. An example being "the accountant" (and assassin type person who takes contracts for shady organizations) But the trope is still frustrating in that it perpetuates the idea, that to be autistic, people have to be either incomparable geniuses, or completely disabled and incapable of living a half decent life. Or the one exception to this trope that I've seen relating to autism, where the character wasn't a "perfect savant" - (Atypical) Was as you said basically playing the differences to comedic effect. Using the "otherness" as a constant backdrop for a gag reel, and making unrealistic stories the person acts in ways that a real autistic person most likely wouldn't! So... Movies and tv shows suck at showing autism... Very badly.

Very interesting video! Would be nice if there was a compilation of real representation of mental disorders in movies

I'm not sure I've seen an accurate depiction of any of the mental illnesses I suffer in the media. Which is sad. I feel like we could use some real representation. At the end of the day, I'm just a human being that also has some extra stuff to deal with. It's not flashy. I'm not some scary unpredictable thing. I'm just a person living a pretty basic life. I may have more meds than the average person. And more appointments to go to. But I'm just a regular human being. I've had people say that I act too normal to have bipolar disorder for instance. Which is a rather odd thing for someone to say. I'm not sure exactly what they expect. But it's certainly not my actual lived experience.

I was in college for sociology and psychology and was able to use the film Fight Club in a forum conversation regarding certain topics of mental health. I feel like Fight CClub does a good job of expressing certain mental health problems

Fatal Attraction, in my opinion, has done major damage to society's view about women, especially women with borderline personality disorder or borderline traits, even though there is no mention of BPD or any other mental diagnosis in the movie. To this day I'm still seeing ugly comments like "Women with BPD are bunny boilers!" On popular BPD video comment sections, Fatal Attraction comparisons come up regularly. When I did a little research into that movie, I've read that many mental health professionals say the star's symptoms in the movie more closely line up with erotomania. That movie is very misogynistic also. It depicts the unfaithful husband as some kind of hero for killing the mentally ill woman in the end. How depressing that so many people think that was such a great movie.

I personally think that Aftersun is the best depiction of depression I’ve ever seen. The unexplainable is the point in the film, as it’s told by the character’s daughter trying to remember her last few days with him to try and understand why he took his own life. But it doesn’t really provide any clarity. Devastating and beautiful film.

Great video! I think Christopher Nolan's films "The Prestige" and "Memento" are two excellent, albeit non-linear displays of how mental illnesses can be properly or at least somewhat decently portrayed in media in a way that is both realistic and a bit haunting. Without spoilers for those who may have not seen it, I believe one of the main characters in "The Prestige" may have narcissistic disorder among others and the other main character definitely shows signs of dependency. Whereas in "Memento", it's a non-linear journey of how menacing (yes, menacing but it is handled somewhat tenderly, ironically) and equally tenderly of having C-PTSD. Of course, there are many, many, many elements in both of these films that complicate this comment. But I think these movies are at least decent visual representations of some of what mental disorders can look like, taken to extremes, in my opinion. Sorry for the essay (lol). I hope whoever reads this has a great time of day, if you made it this far. :)

Verry well said! 🙏☺️👍 These movies influenced me heavenly when I was younger and made me hesitant to go to s psychologist and get help I was also afraid to take medication because I thought the side effects would maybe make me worse and want to hurt people! But that was very far from reality! I am happy i got help for my depression! 👍😉

I love the amazing quality of this channel.

Great video 👍

Dear sir, you made such a valid awareness videos. Plz tell being a psychiatrist how do you get time to prepare such things.?

Inside out is one of the only movies I know that actually present depression a mental health issues properly

ITS LIKE DRAWING WIND… CAN YOU?

This is so accurate and on the point.

Thank you very much.

Beautifully written.

As someone with bipolar whose depressions are accompanied with hallucinations, one of the best representations I thougut was Kandis (in the books). Being in her head the entire time, there was a lot of me going. Hey yeah, this is more like what I go through then any media I've consumed. Then the movies ruined it. They lost the point of telling a broken girl's story, and instead focused on all the cool shots the games gave them.

How do you think about the movie One flew over the cuckoo's nest?

@marktomlin5818

Жыл бұрын

Theres also the female version which is Girl Interrupted

The fisher king is a fairly good one about feeling guilt and having a breakdown

I thought Beautiful Mind was a accurate portrait of schizophrenia and another film Mr Jones was also a good picture of someone who suffers from bipolar disorder

"So, let's look at an example of temporality, causality, and character.." Ok, I'll pick... How about Memento... "Damnit"

Amazing

The Accountant Has To Be One Of The Best & Most Realistic Depictions Of Neurodevelopmental Disorders

Easier enough what to improve myself completely

What about "American psyco"?

Julien Donkey Boy is an incredible portrayal of Schizophrenia and mental illness. The director/writer based the main character off of his schizophrenic grandfather who he grew up with. Beautiful film. Definitely worth checking out

@MemorablePsych

Жыл бұрын

Will have to check it out!

So some movies suck because they try to be better movies?

I was very disappointed in The Joker movie for this reason. I appreciated the attempt to layer the character and show their struggle, but it was ultimately used to "justify" violence. The stigma continues.

Just saying: You don't need to think inside the box to create a compelling narrative. Creative writing is an art form that requires no rigid adherence to a specific structure. Creative writing is about freedom - the freedom to invent worlds beyond your wildest dreams. The freedom to express yourself - your thoughts, your experiences, your feelings and views. The freedom bring your vision to life. But please, please, PLEASE learn to treat the serious themes (like mental health, trauma, etc.) in your stories with the upmost respect. These stories don't fail because mental illness is too disorganized and thus unappealing. There ARE stories with compelling and eye-opening depictions of mental health that could keep you hooked for days, even long after you finish that experience. There ARE stories with unorthodox and complex styles of storytelling that are both griping and evocative. No, no - these stories fail because they don't treat these themes with the proper respect and delicacy they often require and deserve. They receive backlash - not because of the story structure, but because of their handling and poor representation of these delicate subjects. Please, please, to anyone who wants to tell a story, don't let yourself be disheartened. Tell that story and tell it well. And if at first you don't succeed, that's okay. You'll get better with time, just like any other artist. You got this

I live in public housing in NZ . Many ethnicities , along with mental health issues from narcassisim , malignant hate speach , closeted gay males , who went trans , alcoholics , bi-polar , cancer - both active & remission , and the odd rare personality whom most everyone loves to hate & hate to love , Empaths , homophobes , racists , white & brown misogynistic racist supremists , meth users , pot dealers , and the freinenmys , PTSD , Asperger's , Autistic , high function Downs syndrome , renal issues , senior citizens , Arthritic , and others . Makes for an interesting life . Namaste 🙏💜💟💞💐

@cht2162

Жыл бұрын

Wow.

Watch spanish french italian and other european movies, not american

@ryue65

Ай бұрын

Betty Blue?

Thank you for the video. At first, I felt like maybe it was going to be an unnecessary complaint like most social justice complaints are. However, I was delighted to see that it was wonderfully handled and articulated. It felt like a thesis statement for a PhD. Bravo. I will be describing and looking in the comment section for some movies that others feel handled mental health well.

Not in this one

I think i agree with you on most parts but coming to think about it the precursor to mental illness is sometimes or often vague so this is why movie makers suffer as to find a reason for this tragedy. The medical field suffers from lack of coherent knowledge about most mental disorders specifically the mechanisms behind it. I do not believe this "brain chemistry" hypothesis neither do they i think. I mean, a simple question would be, what is the reason for those dopamine and serotonin dysregulation after all? So many questions. On the other hand, i think movies like numb' depicted Gad and depersonalization with depressive features accurately in a charming easy to digest relatable way that made me think these ppl did their research, i even suspected Matthew Perry suffered from anxiety in his real life. The hours', one of my all time favorites, yes lacks the mechanics behind the illness but depicted depression with psychotic features so well that some scenes are ingrained in my memory yrs ago.

There's nothing interesting about mental illness. Movies need to heighten the melodrama of the illness so ppl will watch. As someone with depression I can assure any normie that's it's the most boring experience you can ever have.

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Can't disagree with anything you said here. I'm just wondering if movie goers are going to these movies because they care about the illness, just want to see a "freak show" or simply want to see a good movie and the character is simply one who is challenged in a way most of us can't imagine. My point is that, yer right, Hollywood cares more about the quality of the movie vs the science of the illness but then, that's the business they're in, isn't it. The movie Birdie about a guy in the army who thought he was a bird, had a ridiculous ending. Raging Bull, was useful to me once as I had to describe to police what a man threatening me was like (I was the therapist for a child and this man, not the father, thought everybody who had contact with the mother was sleeping with her). I have diagnosed dysthymic depression and I don't watch a movie to learn how to treat it. I do research. And, I don't do research to understand a good movie.

😂 Galaxy guest Im more like the lil cute handicapped alien that had galactic matter past its eyeballs revealing my beat down and death from my own humans. Way it is. Way it was.

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im so happy that bojack horseman and crazy ex girlfriend exist. they arent movies, and theyre amazing.

@mustacheofgold6846

2 ай бұрын

Bojack is a very specific kind of depression. Namely, it's primarily focussed on defeatist depressed people, who have persistent depression their entire lives and who don't seem to be aware they even have an illness. It's technically accurate in how they react to their disorder, but it's faaaar from relatable to those who only experienced 1 or 2 episodes and actively worked to get help (instead of drowning themselves in drugs & alcohol and blaming the universe).

All you people are crazy.

@poormanchemist

2 ай бұрын

Says the person who speaks with perfect grammar on the internet

@mustacheofgold6846

2 ай бұрын

if everyone is crazy, no one is ;)

@Brando-wc8fz

Ай бұрын

⁠@@mustacheofgold6846if no one is crazy, then no one exists

The Truman show is the biggest horror movie of all time