Morty fell to betrayal out of unresolved anger towards dad, but he fell to Chaos only to save his legion. He didn’t do so out of desire for power, but because when the pain was too much for him, he knew his sons were dying without death. He is a sad case

@Allhailthesith

15 күн бұрын

Facts

@Subject_Keter

15 күн бұрын

Not if your whole personality is hating pyskers and literally PRIDE yourself on being able to withstand it all.

@jamescarter8693

15 күн бұрын

Gffd 2:52 2:52 , 😅7c 2:52 ​@@Allhailthesithwis 5fr

@headlibrarian1996

15 күн бұрын

I would say he fell to Chaos long before then. Who but someone already corrupted by Chaos (even if he wouldn’t admit it to himself) sacrifices his bodyguards and legion geneseed in a secret ritual to summon a daemon?

@browniechann88blackie55

15 күн бұрын

The emperor offered him the idea of redemption what this will do to his mindset going forth would be interesting to see

It was really sad when the villagers were celebrating their first victory on Barbarus and he had to ask Typhon what the fuck they were doing because he had no concept of joy

Mortarion is like Perturabo - embodying something he thinks he hates. Perturabo thinks he's a sensitive artist, but he yearns for the trenches. Mortarion thinks he hates the Warp, but was more about superstition and ritual than MAGNUS. It may have been bad circumstances that broke them, but they were broken.

Big fan of this series.

@BerathorPainting

15 күн бұрын

Same here!

I like how this is an "everybody wins" series. They're all the greatest.

If Big E paid for a SINGLE therapy session Morty would have stayed loyalist

@headlibrarian1996

15 күн бұрын

@@MacroLore Probably true for all the traitors, except perhaps Angron. He was always going to rebel, even if it wasn’t for Chaos.

@MacroLore

15 күн бұрын

@@headlibrarian1996 There was no fixing Curze, Angron, Fulgrim, and maybe Lorgar.

@user-yb6jv2ms2l

15 күн бұрын

He would not listen to anybody.

@Subject_Keter

15 күн бұрын

Morty is the most headstrong of them all, he would plague that doctor.

@jonathanross9407

14 күн бұрын

Loragr definitely. Instead of burning down his city and humiliating him, I don’t know fucking talk to him, have him operate with the ultramarines in the lead only. Fucking anything but the absolute lunacy big E did

"Do as I say, not as I do" - Morty probably

This guy is so similar to Sanguinius in his fall. Angel boy was about to sacrifice himself too but got interupted by his medic child Meros

Imo Morty's Primarch Novel was the best of the bunch. Gave you much added depth to the character.

I do wonder what a successfully cloned Mortarion would be like.

*Jaghatai Khan HATES this...*

Erda: I had to protect my kids from Big E ambition! Morty: P S Y K E R S! Also i am just picturing that one south park clip where Eric Cartman injects himself with Apple Juicr to get stinky fart... 😂

I love mortarion prob my top 2 primarchs I think we have to look at the interaction from the emperor talking to Morty in god blight where he tells him that he will free him / return eventually but not yet …. Either this is just a carrot gesture for giving GW future choices in lore or it is planned. I think as well mortarion also realised the emperor is also a being of the warp in a fashion so would never be able to truly trust him / it . add in the way he was denied help with handling the overlord and in essence trolled .perhaps it was planned from the big e as he did like think millennia ahead . It’s kind of ironic now mortarion is the one thing he despises supposedly much like pertursbo if it becomes cannon he is also a daemon primarch now as well Wish they would flesh out mortarion relations with his brothers though especially in current setting with Magnus and angron

Mortarion is the ultimate hypocrite. Doesn’t like psykers, uses psychic powers. Doesn’t like the Warp, signs up when faced with death. He would’ve been the greatest if he had just taken death over eternal servitude to Nurgle

@Subject_Keter

14 күн бұрын

I think it would of been interesting to see a even more haggard Morty fighting off Nurgle attempts to claim him and where he goes, a plague bloom follows since he would have so many little plague minions trying to get him to give him

The Pale King makes me think how we NEED that Horus: The Luna Wolf novella. Give it to Wraight or ADB, no Warmaster, just who HE is and we'll be rethinking this list (love the series)

if the emperor had only given mortarion the means to survive the poisonous atmosphere then mortarion never would have turned traitor😊

@joshuasmith5472

14 күн бұрын

He was tricked. Typhus and morty were in the warp going somewhere and the ship got stuck in the warp if I recall. It was a plan by typhus to change morty to follow nurgle. One reason why they don't really like each other. The book this is in is called (the buried dagger.)

I love Immortan Joe

There's a rumor going around, that Morty is going to get redeemed, but what do you guys think?

@meisterhyperion207

15 күн бұрын

That's not a rumor. That's a thing the emperor claimed after deus ex machina him away to save Gulliman. And I think that that would be bad for all death guard players and also really dumb. Why would mortarion ever join an Emperor he hates?

@Kristian.B.Kristiansen

15 күн бұрын

There is zero chance. One throwaway line in one novel isn't... anything.

@Subject_Keter

15 күн бұрын

​@@meisterhyperion207 >Be Morty > Hate the Warp as his main character trait > Joins the Warp side > Big E like glares at him and he instantly wrong and wants out Morty is a wanker who cant decide what he wants and Big E would take a knight off the table and bunch of Nurgle Power.

@saculnezretep293

15 күн бұрын

Morty would have to stop being stubborn and swallow his pride.... not going to happen without the best possible writing in play.

@treymartinez7398

15 күн бұрын

So I'm predicting a redemption arch for morty. Here is my reason why cause it can be expanded upon. So nurgle has that aldari god of healing and life imprisoned as a undying test subject that always has a factory reset which can cure all corruption and papa nurgle isn't happy with morty and that Uncleanone for having some his garden burn during that dark imperium saga and nurgle personally blames the two I can see morty freeing the aldari to cure himself or his legion but the aldari god of healing presents him with a choice him or his legion can be saved... and he chooses the emporer to be saved and the corpse king and the holy emporer himself is back in the grimdark

Grabs 🍿. This should be good.

Truely the greatest. Really cares for his sons and respect like no other primarch. If you have read pale king and lords of silence you know.

@logangodofcandy

15 күн бұрын

So brave. Sacrifice the entire imperium and make your sons slaves, to stop them, and only them from feeling pain. Fucking weak

This is brilliant

morty was either the second or third most resilient primarch, not in the top five strategists or tacticians, was not a psyker his resentment for being saved by big E was deep but his fall was the result of him being a hypocrite about the warp, he was the most anti psyker ( a lot more the Russ, who I don't think is that anti psyker as some think), but he had no qualms about killing his own honor guard in their own gene seed vault in order to summon a demonic half breed so no he is not the greatest, by far not

Surprisingly loyalist way to praise a chaos primarch.😄

Like the series but nothing about what you just described of the Pale King would have me being able to consider him the greatest of the Primarchs.

Great series

Well obviously some clearly can be omitted from this list, Mortarion included. Best looking Primarch mini thou! Anyway let's just jump to the real "greatest Primarch": Lorgar! :)))

I don't care for morty but his case is tragic

Mortarion hated everything lol

He has a pit stench only Nurgle can tolerate on good days.

Oh if you do this with chaplin “Why Typhon is the greatest Chaplin” Even Erberus has done more for his legion and Primarch than Typhon has.

He’s definitely the smelliest

Didn't Lion el Johnson always know the truth about chaos?

Mortarion smells.

On the downside, he's smelly.

@Subject_Keter

15 күн бұрын

Also hypocrit, like you cant state "mad factz" and sucks plague. 😂

The greatest hypocrite of the Primarchs, and yet he never got to choose for himself. Except when he trusted Typhon and Horus. x)

Wolf Lord Rho, consider yourself homosexually gay hugged by me.

No.

Pah Magnus did nothing. Mortorian became the monster he always feared. Mortarion saved his sons from death. Mortarion's fall like Angron's was not his doing but those closest to him. Mortarion is one of the three traitor primarch I respect out of the 9 only Conrad and Purturobo are worthy of my respect.

One day he will return to the loyalists side.

@chucklytell

15 күн бұрын

he totally could in a way that kept some of the Death Guard/plague marines faction intact too (for GWs precious bottom line lol), half of them follow Typhus already

@thenapalmbrothershq5585

15 күн бұрын

@@chucklytell That would be grand.

@thedude5449

13 күн бұрын

Mortarion is the most homosexual primarch.

Someone needs to check on Rho, he's clearly been doing too much of the drugs

Mortarion lol Yeah, no.

Bro he needs to compare him to Angron ☠️ (I am not being serious)

If Victor Meldrew was a Primarch his name would be Mortarion 😂lol

Morty is the greatest cuz he is the patron saint of all those stinky MTG. DnD abd Yugioh players that physically need to be tased and drugged to take a shower. 😂

@si1verg3cko

15 күн бұрын

You mean players of Paradox-Billiards-Vostroyan-Roulette-Fourth-Dimensional-Hypercube-Chess-Strip Poker.

@Subject_Keter

15 күн бұрын

​@@si1verg3cko Not sure you can stink in the Warp?

Morty is one of the worst Primarchs. A hypocritical whiner.