You keep using the word "untrustworthy". I do not think it means what you think it means.

@Chociewitka

Ай бұрын

should have been: "mistrusting"?

Thank you. Its so rare for someone to keep it real like this about Sanderson. I can't for the life of me figure out why he's so popular. At least I'm not alone.

@Hero_Of_Old

8 ай бұрын

I like Brandon and his work, but the juvenile, high school dialogue takes me out of it a lot

@unstartedartist

7 ай бұрын

cuz it appeals to lowest common denominator and is a power fantasy for ppl, like a video game in book format

"Who actively frowns in the world?" Me actively frowning after...

To the people who think his writing style in plain and undescriptive - can you now imagine the story without fancy wording or the use of synonyms? How is using the same word multiple times bad? I am able to lose myself in his books so quickly because of his style. I really do not understand

Bro you captured my opinion perfectly. It's a goddamn video game.... or an anime. And I love both but I need my books to be like books lol

@chrisdiokno5600

Жыл бұрын

I mean, like, Brandon did say the Shardblades and Shardplate in Stormlight were inspired off JRPGs and the like

I tried to read these books just to see how bad my ex’s taste in literature was and be able to properly criticise them. I was flabbergasted at how much the first one sucked. The characters were bland, poorly constructed and annoying; prose was utterly ugly and reminded me of my super pompous and pretentious writing style from when I was 12; magic system was creative but excessively detailed and tedious; and the world felt like an edgy teenager’s edgy fantasy. No nuance, no room for imagination, everything predigested and served on a black and red bowl (so edgy!) to be ready to consume. Vin was extremely badly written and felt as if the author had never even talked to a woman or understood real people. Kelsier’s memories were another edgy teenager’s wet dream. And who the fuck calls a woman “Mare”, because even if it’s pronounced differently, it’s still spelled as a female horse. What’s next, calling another female character “Bitch” or “Sow”? As much as I tried, I couldn’t bring myself to finish it. People told me to press on, that it would get better but at least with books if I am not offered at least one thing worth my time and attention, I won’t waste any of both in something I don’t like or care about. I don’t care how skilled, nice or cool Sanderson is as a person or at worldbuilding, I hated this book and his prose enough to stay away forever from the Cosmere. And I confirmed that my ex had terrible taste in books.

@unstartedartist

Жыл бұрын

legendary comment

it's good to meet other sane people out there who despise brandon sandersons books. i havent read this book (dont plan too). i only read the way of kings and that to me was one of the worst fantasy books i have ever read. that fact that the stormlight archives and the mistborn series are the most popular fantasy series of all time just boggles my mind. keep making this content man. thank you.

Tried to explain to my gf why I didn’t like this book anywhere near the level I figured I would given all the praise. I started to question my sanity a bit before listening to you haha. Nailed it. Utter lack of any complexity and a dump of revelations at the end in a failed effort to tie the threads together. On to Malazan. Thanks for posting!

@unstartedartist

Жыл бұрын

haha yeah dude it's easy to get psyched out when everyone is praising a book like that. I have a feeling a lot of people go with the flow and are less likely to think independently when there's so much hype. Hope you enjoy Malazan. It's a fun ride so far.

@Osyrous

Жыл бұрын

Having read malazan , wot, ASOIAF, and the dark tower, the expanse, terry pratchet, I promise you that the cosmere is up there. And growing every day. Mistborn doesnt have the character complexities of robert jordan or the world building of steven erikson but to say it is utterly lacking is a bit of a fallacy. Art is of course subjective and not everyone drinks koolaide and likes it but as a long time fantasy reader I will give brandon credit where credit is due. The beauty of mistborn is in its eras, not gonna force you to read it becUse you obviously didnt kike it, but 7 mist born books later and scadriel is maybe my second favorite genera fiction world. And wayne might be my favorite heist fiction character of all time.

@Luigimaestro

Жыл бұрын

Well not all genres are for everyone. He brings some valid points about it. Of course not all books are the same so you might like some of hos other works. He also has another “universe” called the cytoverse

@unladenswallow43

Жыл бұрын

Enjoy Malazan, it’s the best!!!

I'm reading Mistborn right now, and am feeling like it's just very immature in its characters. Vin is constantly ham-fistedly hammering the pages with REPETITIVE reminders about how she doesn't trust Kelsier and feels uncomfortable and is awkward too many times over. It's wrecking the story and reading experience for me. I put the book down after ~page 175 to finish Way of Kings and am considering not going back. Maybe I'll go back some time, it's just going to be a slow read with how it was written like this. It's not just Vin's character, entirely; it's how the narrative reminds you, like you're not old enough to have gotten that; it feels condescending. I feel definitely like this is a young-adult book and it's hammering the points over and over (almost like the author isn't realizing he's doing it) to hold the hand of a significantly younger reader.

@gabrielhereth8233

Жыл бұрын

Not necessarily a bad thing

@TheOriginalCameron

Жыл бұрын

@@gabrielhereth8233 I recently picked up the book again. Around page 250 now and it definitely turned after that point for the better. I'm now surprised there's still so much book left. It is improving.

@JOSEPH-vs2gc

Жыл бұрын

Fyi, book 2 is more shit than book 1.

@TheOriginalCameron

Жыл бұрын

@@JOSEPH-vs2gc Ah, everywhere I've heard so far they say Book 2 is the best

@JOSEPH-vs2gc

Жыл бұрын

@@TheOriginalCameron "everywhere" doesn't always decide whats best, you should know that by now dear.

What's wrong with saying characters frown or smile if that's what they actually did and if embellishing their expression wouldn't have added anything to the story or characterization? What? Should every smile be described in the most lyrical, dramatic purple prose? Lol That's a strange bit of criticism. (And I'm not even a fan like that, having only read a couple of his books.) When you asked "What even is a frown?", I'm beginning to think that that wasn't a rhetorical question. Go look up the definition of frowning, because, yes, people _actually_ do display that facial expression quite frequently. Also: I don't see how the story being like a video game is a flaw of the story. Both videogames and books are valid storytelling media. Pointing out that one medium tells a story in a way that another medium would as being a flaw isn't saying anything. That's like saying a movie sucks because it reminds you of a book. Lol Smh Heck! There's a whole ass sub-genre of fantasy called litRPG/GameLit where that's the main selling point. I imagine you'd probably break out in sores if you ever read any of those, since Mistborn bothers you so much for being like a videogame lol

@unstartedartist

Жыл бұрын

read a book by Norman Mailer (if you have the capability) and compare the prose

The Sanderson style seems to be to string people along with a video game-like magic system that appeals to the power fantasies of the same misguided people who seem to want their video games in literary form (LitRPG), absolutely abominably thin characters, writing that could charitably be called barely palatable, and dialogue written by a 16 year old, only to try to make people forget all that stuff by infodumping at the end. That way, you either don't make it through the book, or if you do, you may misguidedly believe that the book was amazing, because the end had some theoretically cool information. While his later books improve in some ways, they get worse in others. For example, his secondary characters (transparently paper thin in Mistborn) are mildly better in Stormlight Archive. The problem with SA, then, is that he was popular enough by the time he wrote them that he could get away with anything. As a result, I have to imagine that he told his editor to fuck off, because they read as if no one was around to tell him that he desperately needed to cut 33-50% of them. And that characters should actually progress, rather than essentially wallow in the same place for books on end.

"And he describes all facial expressions as either smiles or frowns! What even is a frown? This is juvenile writing!" As someone who dabbles in short story writing from time to time, I feel attacked xD I enjoyed the video! Its nice to hear opposing opinions.

The amount of thought you put into this criticism is roughly the amount of thought you say sanderson put in writing this book. That being very little

@miyamoto8733

Ай бұрын

I'm glad I'm not the only one who noticed just how nondescriptive his criticism is.

The Stormlight archive series is even worse than this book. I have no idea why people think his writing is at all good, but it's just such trash. The Malazan Book of the Fallen is the very best epic fantasy series I've ever read. There is literally no comparison between the two authors. Right on for making this video man!

I disagree, but your opinion is valid. I think a good portion of your complaint is based around taste. You like soft magic systems, while I like harder magic systems. If what you said about hard magic systems were true, it would mean that the SF genre wouldn't have any good books in it. You also like deeper worldbuilding. Mistborn lacks In this, though it does have an in universe reason why (religious control over the consumption of knowledge and free ideas). You are also a person who values prose. I can not defend Sanderson for having good prose, but I can look past it and enjoy the story. Overall, Mistborn wasn't the book for you because it was written for a different audience. Have a good day.

@unstartedartist

Жыл бұрын

you’re right on all those points

@alexber8838

Жыл бұрын

the criticism is not only because of the magic system, style, or demographic, is because of character writing, dramatic writing, and coherence. There is heart, there is human histories and values, and Sanderson chooses to ignore these and focus on a history, mechanicals and misteries. If you do not understand the difference and what Brandon is evading, you can read anything of Ursula K. Le Guin (one top Sci-fi writer). You will understand and have a great experience at the same time

@gabrielhereth8233

Жыл бұрын

FurnaceAndTable is the smartest person in this comment section

i really liked the mistborn trilogy, to me is was fun and i generally really like the whole hard magic stuff, but some of my biggest issues are what you described here, i dont think the prose is completely horrible but man seems like Sanderson knows like 5 verbs total, i think the prose in Stormlight Archive is a little better and the characters more interesting, but they keep just frowning, raising an eyebrow and repeatedly blushing(how do you even bLusH like is an anime or what). I see lots of people categorizing this book as Adult Fantasy but why¿ because people die¿

@the_son_of_tartarus

8 ай бұрын

The pros are supposed to be simple, it’s so that they’re easy to understand for everyone, and frankly it’s refreshing to see a writer not use such complex pros and shove “I’m an intellectual scholar” down your throat

Finally a honest mistborn review. I had to dnf the 2nd book. And stormlight is even worse.

@bernabefernandeztouceda7315

3 ай бұрын

Seriously? Stormlight worse? I'm finishing Mistborn first trilogy and I'm enjoying it even if I know is pretty garbage. But I had hopes for Stormlight cause everybody say is way better

OMG THANK YOU! Sanderson is the worst writer in modern fantasy. Especially in regards to his stupid, STUPID magic systems. " I eat metal shavings and dat makes da magic! DERP!" He only got where he is today because of that blip in pop culture where everyone was hard up for Hunger Games/Divergent style books.

My respect for this video dwindled once you told people not to read it and called it shitty, in my opinion everything requires some criticism, but insults aren’t the same thing. My grandfather could argue with you for hours without insulting you or the subject once and still make a good point. I feel like people should argue a little more like him. The entire video was just you ranting about what you didn’t like about the books, you didn’t even include a counterpoint, which, in truth, could strengthen your argument. You said the writing was abominable because it was simple, implying that simple writing is bad writing. Your point about the 1 dimensional characters is over-exaggerated, (SPOILERS) the Lord Ruler wasn’t inherently evil, he saved the world at The Well of Ascension, he was merely corrupted over a millennia by Ruin. (SPOILERS END HERE) You explained hard magic systems pretty well, but all the while trash talking it because it’s “sciency.” And you ended by completely trash talking the book and it’s readers. Really, I’m just ranting because I completely disagree with you. Although, I am a hardcore fantasy reader who likes to get lost in a story, so my opinion might be a little biased. These books might not be made for you, and I respect that, but again, that’s no reason to insult and put down the series and it’s fans. Anyway, that’s my take on it, I’m going to keep reading the series and I recommend anyone reading this to try it out. God bless and goodbye.

I had a lot of similar thoughts after reading the first book, especially with how shallow the characters felt. I kept pushing through because I really liked the magic system and the world. The second book was really slow and tough to get through but I found that the third book is really where the series shines. The world building really comes together and it gave me more of an appreciation for the set up in the first two books. I do still think the character writing was trash, I didn't really care for anyone except for Vin, and even her I didn't really care about that much. Not to mention the romance between Elend and Vin was absolutely awful, almost laughable how bad it was. But in my opinion, the series is worth the read because of the magic system and the world building. Despite its flaws, I did enjoy it although I'm not really a seasoned fantasy reader at this point. Maybe after reading more in the genre, I'll look back more critically.

Clearly Sanderson gives neither prose nor dialogue a lot of thought, considering his ridiculous output. It's fantasy junk food. People like junk food. His works will not stand the test of time--I guarantee it.

@unstartedartist

3 ай бұрын

spot on

OMG thank you so much! I thought I was crazy… I forced myself to get to page 427 because of the praise this book gets but I’m finally switching for another book. And don’t even get me started on the fact that a single female character surrounded by only male characters is such a Smurfette situation. This book is extremely off-putting

refreshing take!! i liked mistborn but i had very similar criticisms of books 2 and 3 of the trilogy. i think the first is fun enough to make up for the deficiencies, but books 2 and 3 forced me to read wayyyy to much of the crappy stuff. when ur done with malazan try FIRST LAW brother trust me

Brandon owes me 60 bucks. I accidentally bought a 6 book bundle on Kindle, and i couldn't refund it. So i finished the first book, and i'm thinking all those dumb Book-tubers who recommended this adolescent nonsense were gaslighting me.

@unstartedartist

Жыл бұрын

😂😂😂

After reading the lord of the rings, I was recommended wheel of time and brandon sanderson countless times by many people. After reading 10 pages of brandon sanderson, and 400 pages of robert jordan's wheel of time, I lost a significant amount of respect for everyone who recommended either of those authors to me lol. Complete trash books. And I really tried.

@unstartedartist

Жыл бұрын

😂😂😂😂

@jesusrodrigo9955

Жыл бұрын

I recommend you joe abercrombie,there you would find what you need

@nittomckain9739

10 ай бұрын

​​@@jesusrodrigo9955more trash?

@720pchannel

7 ай бұрын

​@@jesusrodrigo9955out of all those three, Abercrombie is the only one that actually interests me

@Nio744

6 ай бұрын

Ever read the Earthsea Cycle ?

Sanderson writes like he’s explaining physics. I think the magic system is really cool but the way it’s explained to us kills all the fun

2:10 I started listening to the audio book of Mistborn. I got a couple hours into and had to shut it off because of this. The annoyance of that was amplified by hearing someone say it over and over, I wanted to throw my phone across the gym. He did something similar when only 2 people are in the damn room, yet every line was Vin said, Kelsior said, Vin Frowned, Kelsior smiled, Vin Said, Kelsior frowned, Vin nodded, Vin Frowned, Keslior said. like dude, we know they're the only 2 people there, just have the fucking conversation flow a little gdi.

@unstartedartist

3 ай бұрын

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

@strawberryorange3755

2 ай бұрын

The dialogues really are the worst.

it's totally fine if you didn't like it, i can see that you have your own preferences and taste in books. we all enjoy different things. it sure is really slow at first, but i really appreciated how it actually ended. the magic system is something that i really dig for because wow, i can understand it! like, it makes me happy that i understand something that's still magical. and for the worldbuilding, it did worked for me because i can clearly envision the world (because brandon writes in a straightforward way). i've seen mistborn fanarts and i can say that it's pretty close to how i imagined luthadel. what i don't get is why you're comparing it to other books and glorifying it to prove that mistborn or branderson's writing is shitty. stating opinions about why you didn't liked it is enough, you really don't have to compare it. i'm pretty sure there are other people who doesn't like flowery prose, a contrast to yours. and the fact that you looked down on people who liked mistborn (just because you don't understand the praise) is very not "peace and love" that you just said at the end of your video lol

@speedwagon6-e1b

Жыл бұрын

Are u korean?

@kinaurrr

Жыл бұрын

@@speedwagon6-e1b nah.

@tamerofhorses2200

Жыл бұрын

Why was comparing it bad? Your approach makes no sense. When a product is set within a medium, it is often compared against other products within the same medium/genre. That is how criticism (especially when it comes to art) works. An impressionistic work can only be defined in its features when its key approach is contrasted with a realistic one, hence the discriminatory labels of "impressionistic" vs "realistic" etc. Comparing and contrasting is the essence of how features, quality and theory is delineated.

@JOSEPH-vs2gc

Жыл бұрын

Is english your second language? because maybe that's why the over-simplified writing was to your liking. If english was your first language then you'd think it was written for an 8th grader. You may ask yourself, why so many people like his writing then? Because America's reading level is that of an 8th grader. (in other words, not good)

@Ericbro64

Жыл бұрын

​@@tamerofhorses2200 Comparing "against other products within the same medium/genre" makes sense. Comparing a YA-ish novel to Malazan just begs incredulity. Malazan is infamous for being advanced reading, with extreme demands placed upon the reader. Mistborn is accessible to 13+. I don't understand the value a comparison like this brings.

Bless you, it’s so nice to finally see some of these reviews.

I understand where you re coming from, and your criticisms make sense for the most part, but were there no good aspects to the book? And its not like im a big fan, but i thought the book was fine for what it was. I will check out that gardens of the moon tho.

@unstartedartist

Жыл бұрын

it wasn't for me. one of those books where after I was done, I felt it was an actual waste of time having read it

Why do you feel that the characters were 1 dimensional? If you can't say what the 3 dimensions of characterization are, can you at least say why you think the characters lacked depth? What do you feel was missing in the characters? And why do other people, in your opinion, use the term "one-dimensional" to describe insufficient character development? A follow up video would be nice. Thank you.

@Diofill37

5 ай бұрын

Throwing my 2 cents in, character dimensions are just different sides of a character that create points of internal conflict within said characters. For instance, suppose we write YA dystopian novel, and we go with the classic, one-dimensional antagonist: a brutal dictator who oppresses everybody just for the sake of it. At this point, he's not even a character but a plot function. Now, say we want to add a second dimension. How about the fact that this brutal dictator was himself a leader of idealistic revolution that overthrew the previous oppressive government. Now, that creates conflict. That's interesting. Questions arise: how did he turn from a revolutionary hero to an oppressive villain, what changed him, what is his motivation? A third dimension would be something like a bridge between conflicting points. The Dictator explains to a henchman that yes, he led a revolution, saw the chaos it brought with the civil war that followed and, once emerging on top, he vowed to not allow such horrors to happen again. Let's expand further. The secret police of the Dictator seems omnipresent but somehow our female protagonist keeps beating them at their own game. Plot armor? Maybe not. She breaks into Dictator's residence and realizes that he's been holding the secret police from killing her this whole time. He followed her journey carefully but could not bring himself to give the order on the sole being that reminded him of his wife. The one that inspired him to do the previous Revolution in the first place, the one he lost in said revolution and mourned ever since. The protag realizes that third dimension was a lie. Dictator changed from an Idealist to an Oppressor not because of civil war horrors. The Revolution was his personal horror, one that took from him everyone he once loved: family, friends, even his wife. Now external conflict between revolutionary protag and oppressive Dictator turns into an internal struggle within the latter. Though he hates Revolutionary Idea since it took everything from him, some part of him wants protag to succeed, redeeming the belief he was once driven by - that a better world for everyone is worth terrible sacrifices. Protag can push on that in the final confrontation, saying his wife didn't die in vain if the Dictator abandons his oppressive polcy and helps Protag dismantle the cruel regime. And now, depending on where you want to take the story, he can either choose protag side in an uncommon move of hero-villain reconciliation, or succumb to self pity and guilt, turning into rage, prompting the protag to kill him in an epic fight. And here, just by creating a multi-dimensional character, you have a more interesting story than 90% of YA novels on the market.

While i do agree with some of the points being made here, complaining that a book is easy to read is absolutely an off the mark complaint. I do appreciate the fact he makes the books easier to read. Not everyone is a native english speaker and Mistborn, while very flawed, is a great introduction to fantasy both for younger people and people who have english as a second and third language. Are there better writers? Absolutely. But at the end of the day, for some people it only matters how fun a book is, and Sanderson writes fun books that you can digest easily and there's nothing wrong it it. As long as it gets people to read i'm happy. And on the magic system topic, you'll never get whats going on with the magic system in Lord of the Rings because its not meant to be explained, its there to get people out of pickles when its needed and thats it, not really deep at all. Malazan is on my reading list, as soon as i can find it in my country.

This is a year old now, but because of this, I will not read this book. I’ve only read two Sanderson and I am not impressed. It took me 3 tries to get through Warbreaker and it sucked. I read the first Stormlight and I cannot get past the world building. It’s the worst, most illogical world ever. It makes no sense and no civilization could live there as described. Period. I live in Florida. I have been through many hurricanes including one that destroyed my house. I won’t waste your time with the countless examples of complete nonsense in the world, but it is literally the most retarded world I have ever come across. He put zero logic in it. I just read Gardens of the Moon and it was the greatest fantasy novel I ever read. Reading Deadhouse Gates very soon.

Gardens of the Moon has a lot negative criticism too, by many of the youtubers. So things are subjective I guess, but a big majority do appreciate the book.

I think all of your points kind of just come down to taste. I personally really enjoy Sanderson for the exact reasons you did not. The hard magic system is one of the best parts of Sanderson's writing in my opinion and I feel it doesn't take away from the fantastical element of the book.

Reading a book is a highly personal thing, you accept how the story unfolds and the author writing. Just because you dont want to do that doesnt mean the book has no value. Even if a writing is not excellent, if it conveys a story that resonates with you then its good, just like when your mother tell you a fairy tale. This feels like an criticism of the kind of people who read these books. Well its good enough for them and if you change your expectation a bit maybe you can find something, seems like your implying an ideal writing style thats isnt possessed by any one author. Every author has their flaws and its not because they suck, its because of the way they live and see the world, which may be different from others. Understand that and i think youll have a better time understanding why some book is loved, even if its not yours.

flowery prose pisses me off so i like brandon sandersons simple writing

@alb0zfinest

3 ай бұрын

There is a difference between simple and writing like it's a fucking high school essay. His prose is genuinely horrendous. Simple prose would be someone like Robert Jordan.

@ssj4rit

2 ай бұрын

@@alb0zfinest yeah fr, you can be simple but eloquent (i.e. Robin Hobb). Sanderson is simple and clumsy.

I was never able to get into him due to his writing style.

This video is so cathartic. Never felt so validated before. Though I see you've also shat on The Name of the Wind in the recommended section and I moderately enjoyed that book, so I'm excited to see if I agree on the points you make in that video as well!😂

I absolutely agree... I'm flabbergasted by how so many people can like it. One step closer to being a cynic, thanks for that, Brandon Sanderson!

@montejr6992

Жыл бұрын

“Holy sh__, other people like something I don’t?!”

@chrisdiokno5600

Жыл бұрын

I think its cause the prose is relatively simple that its more accesibile and approachable

@JOSEPH-vs2gc

Жыл бұрын

His fans are not very smart me thinks, or maybe they're 14 yrs old or something.

@chrisdiokno5600

Жыл бұрын

@@JOSEPH-vs2gc His worldbuilding is really good, as are his characters

@JOSEPH-vs2gc

Жыл бұрын

@@chrisdiokno5600 eh, disagree. Watch the video above. he pretty much nails it.

This book should be classified as a YA book. Vin is just so whiney. I don't get how people think her boyfriend (can't remember his name l) is the best thing since slice cheese. He is so ignorant about the injustices around him, yet everyone thinks he is the right person to bring about change in this world. I haven't picked up a Brandon Sanderson book since.

@chrisdiokno5600

Жыл бұрын

Read Stormlight Archives

@the_son_of_tartarus

8 ай бұрын

Vin has been through a whole life of pain and suffering that most people could scarcely comprehend, she has a right to complain. And elend was raised in a rich family and was never taught better so of course he doesn’t completely understand the injustice, but despite that he still deviates from the norm and makes an effort to understand and help anyway he can.

you are a treasure. thank you for saying that mistborn is garbage. and the people that like it are people who like garbage. mistborn and sanderson are overhyped and a stunning example of how the popular vote is... a really low common denominator. this is the guy who finished wheel of time at the request of the widow of the author. that probably jumpstarted his audience. plus the main character is a girl, as he has said in videos that he combined my fair lady with something else to come up with the idea for mistborn. that and a cringe twist ending... and an extremely low level requirement for reading it... i mean... there is a reason why so many people say that this is the book that got them back into fantasy. because people like garbage. i like garbage too. for anime. but not books. sanderson is a pass for me. and i, too, look down on the people who like him. because it's kind of embarassing.

found this looking for stormlight criticism because i cannot understand why sanderson’s extremely boring shit is praised so highly. Love it

@waltergroceries9534

Жыл бұрын

I’m a huge malazan fan, by the way. If you like Gardens of the Moon then you don’t need the “it gets better after the first book” disclaimer, the following books will knock your socks off

@unstartedartist

Жыл бұрын

@@waltergroceries9534 Dude i can’t wait to dive deeper into Malazan. and yeah there’s no way Sanderson is as beloved as the internet would have us believe. I think it’s a weird combination of social ‘pressure’/FOMO and booktubers riding the wave to get views/clicks. I think the same is true of Name of the Wind. Easy content to make with high returns

@fromheaventoearth5779

Жыл бұрын

Haven't been able to get into Sanderson. Won't bash him as I know what it takes to write a book. At the same time, he and Rothfuss blow my mind because people really think these guys are on Martin and Hobb's level and they are really not.

@GeekofMordor

Жыл бұрын

Sanderson writes YA. That's why it sucks. Kid fantasy like Harry Potter and Eragon

@gabrielhereth8233

Жыл бұрын

You obviously haven’t read them, his books tackle all sorts of issues including racism, sexism, slavery, etc. I don’t remember children’s books having anything of that sort in them.

Very interesting, I agree with just about every point you make however I finished the trilogy because I am a sucker for mystery and need my questions answered and enough mysteries were presented to me to keep going whether or not they were answered effectively. I am still interested in trying stormlight just because of the overwhelmingly amazing things I’ve heard but that same praise is probably what trapped me into reading mistborn. You’ve made me very excited to try Malazan.

Agreed. I wouldn't care so much about Sanderson except the overwhelming and unwarranted praise. I finished Mistborn trilogy and Reckoners trilogy. I think he's okay but I really think he's a mid author. I can't stand the pacing and shallowness of the characters. It's a slog to read anything and I find myself not caring at the end of every chapter to keep going. The magic/superhero systems are mid. The only thing I can think of is this is a non-readers intro into fantasy. It's the greatest because you can't compare it to anything else. Then you read anything else of S tier fantasy authors and then you understand the level difference. Also, if it's truly just a Fun read despite shortcomings, Fun does not equal Great author which is where people seem to correlate. Good is the tier or even slap him at an A tier for sheer number of books and series cranked out. S tier and Great author is reserved for many others imo. I may get around to Stormlight but i've already given Sanderson a fair try.

Im sure his later books are good, but your comment of 'short history' is dead on. It feels 50 years old. And he caters specifically to hard magic, so its a good way to tell if youd like the rest more less

I agree with you that the prose is way over simplistic .But I think the world building is not that vast because is more of a post apocalyptic setting .The lord ruler literally destroyed all the cultures and religions of the world , leaving himself as the only symbol of worship. And the little history that remained in the world was only accounted by the Terris keepers.

Agree here, wait till u get to saga 2 whete Characters randomly blush all the time

omg, this book is so dammnnn boooring

@gabrielhereth8233

Жыл бұрын

This is one of the most action packed books I know…

Interesting. Sounds like streamlined, easily consumed utilitarian prose. He did initially go to school as a biochem major to be a Doctor. Seems to have a high-level constructionist/engineer/architect mindset. His productivity is off the charts. He markets incredibly well. And his outreach to aspiring writers to become a commercial success is incredible with free classes, etc. He’s VERY likesble as a teacher.

@unstartedartist

10 ай бұрын

when you're pumping out trash, it's easy to have productivity that's off the charts

@phroz3n

6 ай бұрын

"His productivity is off the charts. He markets incredibly well. And his outreach to aspiring writers to become a commercial success is incredible with free classes, etc. He’s VERY likesble as a teacher." And yet, none of this qualifies his writing as "good." There is no nuance, he leaves nothing to the imagination, his writing resembles an A to B connect the dots that leaves the reader no room or ability to make their own conclusions or thoughts about the story/characters.

I do love Mistborn, at least the first trilogy, but I'd put it in a beginners fantasy read. Stormlight is more advanced and not just the page count. It's a damned good place to start a journey into fantasy since it's an easy read. I think Sanderson is good for that very reason, his books are easy to read and his characters are good. There are better writers, of course, but there are also much worse.

@unstartedartist

Жыл бұрын

That makes sense. I would recommend Mistborn to a young reader (late middle school)

@Lilitha11

Жыл бұрын

The fact that the first book of stormlight has two prologues(and 9 interludes?) made me hard pass on the entire series. A lot of people who even enjoy the book admit that the first 500 pages can be really slow and some times even boring. Even if it gets better later on, and it is an easy read so goes by quickly, I can't get into that.

@Luigimaestro

Жыл бұрын

@@Lilitha11 it can be a bit boring but the first book is mostly just worldbuilding. Trust me, it gets much better. But saying “this book is too long” doesnt really seem like a good excuse for me. I mean the harry potter series has 200-400 page books and people like it. But if they combined it into one book it would be “too much” i just dont really get it

@Lilitha11

Жыл бұрын

@@Luigimaestro I agree with you that long shouldn't equate to boring, and so a book being long isn't a problem itself. The issue is that it is also boring. Seeing as how Harry Potter could tell two fully fleshed out stories in 500 pages(about the length of the first two novels), there is really no excuse for the first 500 pages of a 1200 book to be boring. World building doesn't have to be boring, so there is really no excuse for it. And it isn't like someone who hates the book says it is boring, people who legit love the book say that parts of it is boring. You even say parts are boring. Some of that could of probably been solved by shortening the books and writing tighter pose and focusing on advancing the plot.

@marilise1987

Жыл бұрын

I don’t think it was an easy read at all. Just couldn’t get through it because of the writing and the characters. I just wasn’t drawn in to the story. I’ve not been this bored while reading in a long time.

2:07 I’d never heard the word “maladroitly” used so many times😂😂 10:18 I agree, even though I was enjoying the books overall during the action sequences I could just let my attention wander to whatever I else I was doing while listening to the audiobook Alternate title: Malazan promotional video😂😂😂 I agree with most of what you said except about Vin-I didn’t like her at all😅 great video!!

Mistborn is shounen anime. They even Ace/Rengoku the master of the main character (Vin). It's not a great book but could be a decent shounen history

I agree with every one of your statements, except "It's the same old story over again", because that is like every story ever, since the dawn of mankind, basically...I mean, Hero's Journey and all that. The problem with Final Empire it's everything else you say; you could have the same old story over and over again, but well executed, and be a masterpiece. F.E. doesn't make the cut. I don't understand either what is all the fuss about Sanderson being a genius...I just don't see it...

I liked the mistborn trilogy because the magic felt very integrated to the world, also i'm autistic as shit.

@unstartedartist

7 ай бұрын

hahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

Juvenile is different from simple. He intended for it to be simple and it's okay for you to dislike it but it's no abominable. The prose's active goal is to clearly portray the world without any frill.

@gabrielhereth8233

Жыл бұрын

My point exactly

I'll have to read the first book again to see if this tracks, but the points about painstakingly writing every thing as it happens is a little bit unfair; the way Sanderson writes (at least the way I see it) is to give one the tools one needs to imagine the story as a movie, not to "prove" that his magic system makes sense, although anyone who doesn't have a visual imaginationwould find that boring - also the complaint about this magic system versus LOTR is just a personal taste between hard and soft magic systems TL:DR it feels like (aside from the point about the writing being juvenile) your problems are just personal preference

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@unstartedartist

Жыл бұрын

heyyy thanks my man. maybe ill make one soon

It seems the people in this comment section have experienced no hardship or trauma. Otherwise they would actually understand the book. And why does everyone make such a shit show about his pros? What does it matter? They’re simply and easy. And unlike most authors pros they don’t shove “I’m a smart person “ down your throat. The book has good 3 dimensional characters and a unique world and magic system. I guess some people have to delicate constitutions to handle it

@Ignasimp

2 ай бұрын

I haven't read the book. But I expect a writter to be a fucking mastermind. I want them to be very intelligent so I expect their writting to show that, not in an overdone and over the top kind of way, though, with taste. For the other part thinking someone who doesn't like the book is because they have not experienced any hardship or trauma is a terrible excuse for bad writting. Everyone experiences hardships. In one way or another, yet this should never be a prerquisit to understand a book and let alone to like it. You don't need to have experience what the characters go through because humans have both empathy and imagination. You are somewhat hating on intellectual snobism yet at the same time being snobish yourself by thinking others can't understand what you can and that's why they don't lile it. Be consistent in your criticism at least.

Not liking a book for the prose is like not liking a video game because it doesn't have next gen graphics. I think most people really couldn't give a shit about fancy descriptions and flowery words, and that isn't the point of most writing. Also, not trying to be mean here, but if the fact that traumatized people can still fall in love/dependence with other people in a matter of days surprises you, you need to get out more and make more friends. It happens all the time.

Totally agree. I have no idea why people prise this shit. Otherwise, Way of Kings is very good (two first books 10/10)

I am right there with you. These are my exact thoughts. So shallow. No depth. It’s a fun idea but it needed so much more for me to get immersed in. The only description of the city was “ash fell” I want more! And it felt exactly like a video game. I truly don’t know why people love this trilogy so much. It’s a top 3 for everyone. And they say vin is one of t he greatest fantasy characters ever written… Btw this is coming from of Name of the Wind fan lol

I'm not defending Mistborn because I haven't read all of it but I want to ask you, how would you write it? How is lore and exposition given "naturally" in a "fantasy" book? My second to last question to you is when should a writer decide what should be explained and what shouldn't? (Explaining too much is baby feeding the reader explaining too little could lead to mass confusion. But that's just it what would YOU define as too much or too little?)

I've heard so much about Sanderson... And then I read Steelheart... And it was absolutely terrible. I mean, the worldbuilding was nice but the characters suck so much that I just couldn't care at all. Then some people said "Oh, this is Sanderson's worst book, read Mistborn instead". And then I was all the same. Ok worldbuilding and absolutely stupid, superficial and bad characters and dialog. I do not understand how this man can be so praised.

@unstartedartist

Жыл бұрын

😂

@chrisdiokno5600

Жыл бұрын

Its mostly his depth worldbuilding and characters, I recommend Stormlight Archives

It's okay for you to not like this book but it's a bit disingenuous to not mention the sequels once. Alot of your critisms are fixed in the next 2 or are just personal preference. At least have the courtesy to mention that it's a trilogy and that the sequels may improve things about it before you actively tell people to steer clear of it. Also it really bugs me how you criticized his prose for not being detailed enough, and then complained that the action sequences were too detailed.

@unstartedartist

Жыл бұрын

Prose and detail are entirely different. The flow and structure of his writing is clunky and juvenile (i.e., his prose sucks). I'm not mentioning the sequels because I haven't read them and have no interest in spending time on them after this first book. It doesn't matter to me that the issues I mentioned are fixed in later installments - I'm reviewing this book alone and not the trilogy as a whole.

@Steve_is_a_Stick

Жыл бұрын

@@unstartedartist it's okay if you don't want to read the sequels. Everyone has different tastes and it's fine if you don't like and don't want to read something that I really like. But I do think that since you actively are saying that people should stay away from it, at least mentioning that it's a trilogy and that future installments could fix or change things about it is important. Even if you never read them, mention them before you say people should avoid it.

@gabrielhereth8233

Жыл бұрын

I completely agree with Steve

@JOSEPH-vs2gc

Жыл бұрын

I couldn't finish book 2. It was worse than book 1.

I think what you’re noticing is Sanderson’s love for playing with tropes. He structured Mistborn like a heist movie, only to pull a bait and switch with a Christ archetype. The 1-dimensional characters point is fair, but I think it’s because he starts with the trope and adds on. Stormlight’s the one that’s known for Sanderson’s best character and worldbuilding, as he spends a lot of time with both of them. Mistborn is early in his career, and isn’t perfect, but the complexity you’ve been told to expect comes from the trilogy as a whole rather than book 1.

Props to you for hearting disagreeing comments.

@gabrielhereth8233

Жыл бұрын

But he hearted every comment…

@karlwilker579

Жыл бұрын

@@gabrielhereth8233 And I think a less mature person would have only hearted the comments that agreed with them.

@gabrielhereth8233

Жыл бұрын

@@karlwilker579 true, but I thought it was funny that he was complemented for hearting disagreeing comments when he hearted all of them 😆

It’s fine if you don’t like Sanderson. He’s doing just fine without you lmao

@unstartedartist

3 ай бұрын

and i'm fine without him

I feel like the main reason why people don't talk about his prose much is that he is upfront about it. His goal is to tell the story as coherently as possible so he can go in-depth with his magic systems and world-building. Vin falling for eland didn't seem too far out of the realm of possibility considering up til that point has centered around kelsair teaching her trust. The point on sazed doesn't make sense imo considering he comes from a domesticated race and his entire purpose to keep the knowledge of religions. Most people praise the entire series as a whole - it seems like you took qualities people apply to the entirety of the story and you applied it to the first in the series. Were you expecting an ASOIAF or a Kingkiller chronicles when you meant into this? I do agree with you when it comes to how the action sequences are kinda boring and over drawn out

@Lilitha11

Жыл бұрын

He does write the prose like that on purpose, but I don't think that entirely justifies it. You can for example have simple prose without constantly repeating phrases over and over.

@tamerofhorses2200

Жыл бұрын

His purpose of simplification does not justify itself. Saying I wanted to do something badly on purpose does not justify my preference to do it badly. All art is ultimately deliberate, and the choices which come together to construct a work are all deliberate on the artist's own part. This deliberation cannot be justified by its own conspicuousness. IE: One cannot say one painted a whole canvas to purple because one simply wanted to do it. That is circular logic. What effect would the colour purple have on the audience? Why did one pick purple and why did one furthermore choose to paint the whole canvas with it? What were the obvious cause-effect connections between these choices? Answers to those questions are usually of a deeper nature regarding an artist's own choices in conveying something to the audience. If one is "merely" telling a story, without actually deliberating on what one is trying to convey with certain elements of art, then one is not an artist at all.

Don't care, didn't ask

@unstartedartist

Жыл бұрын

yet you clicked on the video, watched it, and left a comment. and I also wasted my time by responding to you. we are both pathetic

Lol its a lot deeper than that if you go further. It felt natural to me, and its alright to have characters and plots that are similar to previous plots. A hero with a thousand faces the hero's journey is captivating.. ive seen people literally act like how he has them act and yeah maybe some could have been a little more fleshed out but it was fine with me.The way the 3rd book ends is way different from any other books in a fantasy trilogy in some ways. He does give a hint near this ending that makes you doubt if it was a good thing that Vin killed the Lord Ruler. Vin being untrusting to most but then falling for Elend seems pretty human to me, how many of us flip flop like that ? (Ive seen many people dothings like this going against their natural beheaviors thats what its meant to be human we dont always act the same all of the time and there are people that sneak past our armor we put up with out realizing) I enjoy it for what it is and i actually liked that at times with the action scenes that it felt like a video game. His word choices I didnt really care about and the frowns and etc i think were fine/average because it lets you insert how you think so and so would scowl or frown based on the context. I get the book isn't for everyone but i wouldnt say this is terrible. Its probably average at worst in my humble opinion.

I tried reading this twice and couldn't get through it. I think the publishing industry used Booktubers to prop this book up. Along with directly taking from the Ocean Eleven movies, add in video games, and some moody evil empire vibes, and people gobble it up. The standard for good fantasy these days is so low it's depressing.

I’m gonna be honest, I came in here expecting to disagree with you just because I actually enjoyed my sport, but I think you hit the nail on your head with MOST of your points. However, I would say the third somethings that I disagreed with you on the mostly I think it’s a matter of perspective, and where you’re coming from versus where I am. About the writing, I always thought of Sanderson’s pros as more “ cinematic” (in that they try to be like a movie and convey what’s happening in the story) over most other authors prose. I definitely agree that Sanderson isn’t a poet, and one could argue that that’s a bad thing given that’s one of the advantages of pro is over a movie. However, I never found this writing as bad or awful, just different. I think utilitarian describes his pros wealth. The characters I agree on, though I happen to like Kelsier. the world building, I sort of agree on because Sanderson’s lack of history in his world is a genuine problem for me (not just mistborn, but most of his work) but I found the world to be fairly endangered, especially in books to two and three (no, I guess that doesn’t count since it’s not actually Mistborn). For the magic system, I definitely agree with you and that I prefer “ soft magic” but in my opinion, Brandon’s “hard magic” is it meant to serve an entirely different purpose. I like some of Sanderson‘s other magic a lot more than Mistborn, but I don’t think it’s bad when you consider what he’s going for, which is much more a kin to a soldier, wielding a sword (a tangible, understandable tool) then a wizard using magic in the traditional sense. Again, not bad, just different. Although I do think most of his stories could benefit from a secondary, softer magic, I can add to the way the wheel of Time series handled it. In conclusion, I enjoy Mistborn, despite it, not being my favorite Sanderson book, or even my favorite in the first Mistborn trilogy. I understand why people don’t like it, I also understand why people do it like it. It’s definitely how much more YA novel than any of Sanderson’s other books, and as someone who doesn’t really like most YA I think that might be part of why I don’t like it as much. If you wanted to try another Sanderson book that isn’t so YA it would recommend the way of kings, they were given the qualms you had about things that Brandon does in general (magic, world building, his writing style) it would probably be a waste of your time I read mistborn when I was 14 and I’ll definitely keep recommending it to people of about that age, so, even now, as by 17 year old, I will admit that I have started to see you it’s flaws, but I still think it’s a fun read. If you came for the best books in all of fantasy, I think you’re pretty mistaken to start with Sanderson, but all the same I think he’s an incredible writer (or a storyteller, rather) and his output and work ethic are truly admirable, even if you don’t enjoy his books so much. ❤ I appreciate your opinions and I’m glad you shared them, I will now be throwing them in the bin and enjoy my Sanderson novels. Much love from Michigan ✌️

@gabrielhereth8233

Жыл бұрын

I respect you very much 🫡

Half assed history, Kelsier is carefree, exposition is just told (by knowledge-hording one-dimentional dude to a 16 year old girl that doesn't know nothing about anithing, super unrealistic and just simply directed to the reader indeed xD ), only ever visiting two cities (yeah, in a world where traveling is pain in the ass in most cases and which kinda is made of like 15 cities max with buncha agrarian forever-farming plantations everywhere inbetween, very empty indeed), ahhh... Well, sorry for outburst, but yeah, I don't think you really payed attention to the book, which is understandable after deciding at some point that it's eh at best, but... but, I want to make one case here. From the pretty much VERY start Vin is using this her "luck", to make a person's anger softer and their boredome stronger, to see a bit better, to do all this things. Sounds like a solid foreshadowing that something's up with that. But then maybe I'm biased. So yeah, that was my one case and I'd be happy to hear if your thoughts change after revisit of the book if you ever do it, or maybe even the whole trilogy as, you know, the final empire is only the first of the three. Sorry if I came off as a one-dimentional mistborn fanboy, I'd think there isn't that much you can say about me by this one comment but I value your opinion on that still. But also, genuinly sorry if there's too much steam in this, had a rough day. I'm of the opinion that diving into stuff with full heart and soul and trying to connect with and understand the characters would always enhance experience with and understanding of any book, classic literature classes back in "middle highschool" equivalent really cultivated that approach to not die from boredom xD Have a good one )

Missbored*

@unstartedartist

Жыл бұрын

'Brandon Sanderson frowned'

Sanderson is quantity over quality. His novels are also not really original, they are bloated and trite. For me Mistborn is just boring.

Spot on. I love Brandon Sanderson as a person. Love his lecture as well (some stuff there is very helpful and genius). But I don't like his books that much. Not because it's bad per se; it just doesn't suits my taste. I read three-quarter into Mistborn and decided to drop it. I soldiered on to understand the hype, even though I knew it's totally not for me. Personally, I think he's a very good storyteller. Highly creative. The man definitely knows his craft and what he's doing. That's his greatest strength, in my opinion. But, where he falls short is in the execution. His prose is servicable at best. Personally, I find it dull. Reading his prose is like listening to someone recounting an experience in a dull, monotone voice. The narrator is just... emotionless most of the time. I know it's his stylistic choice, but it's definitely not for me. Usually I'm okay with one-dimensional characters, as long as they are interesting. But these characters are not. I can't say what it is, they just don't push the right button.

My problems with the mistborn trilogy heavy SPOILERS 1. Sazed's character arc in book three (and book 2?) is a boring as hell count down from 500 to 1. Please, at least offer some sort of progression or change, how many times do you need to tell me that he picked up a page of his portfolio and found logical inconsistencies. At least have him sink deeper into unbelief, start working against the main characters. Or perhaps he could go for a carrot on a stick, genuinely take major action on a newfound faith and then the floor falls out from under him in a major way. Please give me some sort of state change with the dude. Instead he just agonizingly describes him smashing his head against his portfolio over and over and over and then "tadaa!" - plot twist. 2. The whole "who is the hero of ages" question should have been brought to the forefront from the very beginning, it could have been used to pull me through the story, instead its obviously the Lord Ruler, until its not. And then its Obviously Vin, until its not. Plot twists offer a single moment of "gotcha". Agonizing questions offer an entire read's worth of fascination. 3. The "world building" as you mentioned is boring and empty. I heard Sanderson describe the world as, basically a world where Sauron won and the whole thing is Mordor. That sounded genuinely interesting to me. But even Mordor had its own terrible beauty. The central dominance, is just fricken drab as shit. I'm pretty sure there are 4 types of buildings ever mentioned in the entire world Shops/taverns, skaa tenement housing, guard houses (which barely get visual descrptions) and Lord's manors - about which we are given just a few visual details, (there's stained glass bro!), oh yeah and then there's the Lord ruler's abode. I am not asking for rainbows and butterflies, quite the opposite actually, just give me some variety in settings. It doesn't have to be featureless to be bleak, ominous and oppressive feeling, give the world some Gothic artistic flare. 4. The book lacks cultural richness. I also heard Sanderson say in an interview that The Venture family is supposed to be Germanic, and Luthadel is supposed to be Parisian or at least French - inspired. How about giving me some hints to pick up on those references in the book? I wish I had known while I was reading it, I may have had a context to use to picture Germanic architecture or, or Parisian canals... idk are the canals in Paris? Well hey, if the dude could paint his world in his books even half as well as he does in his interviews that would be amazing. Instead we're not given any of that deatail. 5. The prose. I honestly don't think the vocabulary level is an issue for me. I can still get into a book that uses short simple words. My issue was the lack of similes and highly specific details that make the world more concrete. The thing that puzzles me is that Sanderson clearly knows how to do this. He teaches about it in his writing classes. Not sure why he doesn't utilize his own advice. Maybe his more recent writings do. Despite all my problems I plan to read Stormlight and if that series does not exhibit some of the issues I had here, I will probably read the one offs as well. The book was still good enough that I found it hard to put down, paradoxically.

I also didn't really enjoy mistborn that much. I had a great time with way of kings though. I agree with all your criticisms and i feel like he really improved with way of kings on all fields other than the simple writing actually. Definitely give it a read if you want to give Sanderson another go.

I, or at least tried to, read the misborn trilogy and droped it at the third book. I had a great time reading the first book, but the following two got more and more boring till the point i just stopped reading at the middle of the third one. I dont care about Sanderson prose(probably because i read it in spanish, english is not my mother tongue) but i think what did made me drop it are the caracters itself and the plot. By the third book it was no longer thrilling or intriguing, no cliffhangers or interesting stuff, it was like the story was very straightforward. However i dont dislike the book, just isnt, how i could say, catchy? Although i couldnt finish it. I enjoyed a lot the stormlight archive and i love the concept of the cosmere. With all this said. I totally disagree with the hard magic systems, i prefer them because authors have to justify in a bettee way solutions for conflicts or fights scenes. Not just a wizard done it. But this is a matter of taste. In fact is the same with the book in general, everyone has its opinions and tastes and some could dissagree. Thats why many people liked a lot this despite all the problems or flaws you mentioned.

It is like a video game, but that can be fun. I skim through the fight scenes, though, and I wasn’t super hot on the first book. The sequels are better. The biggest problem is that he crams in so much plot into one trilogy, there’s not enough time for the amount of detail I’d like. Way of Kings is MUCH better, and more adult-oriented. It still has the basic prose Sanderson is known for (not my favorite style, but I don’t mind it), but he goes much deeper into the characters, and the worldbuilding is more interesting.

All the titles with two words glued together everywhere is the biggest turn off for me, and I can't even seriously consider reading one of his books in the first place.

I hear ya on your critique. Stormlight Archive is very different. His prose aren't his strong suit, but the story and characters are way better.

@carlossalazar3182

Ай бұрын

Prose is singular

I tried to read mistborn because everybody was so hyped about Brandon Sanderson's books and all the famous booktubers recommend it. Maybe it's because I'm 31 but it didn't click with me. As the man here says, it's kinda childish and probably I would like it as a 13 year old. I mean I really tried even tho I hated it, I gave it many opportunities to the point I reached half of the book and couldn't keep going because literally nothing really happened in 300 pages. Waste of money and time.

I quit liked mistborn one of my favorite books of 2023 the magic system is fantastic

I’ve read the first book and imo, Sanderson’s writing was not that great so did not read the rest of the series .

Never say the public has good taste.

I thought it was ok. Great magic system, perfectly executed twists but I don't like the worldbuilding. It's hard to tell what time period this story takes place in. Is it a medieval society, victorian era like Bloodborne or the renaissance? And even though we get to visit different locations they all feel the same, like we don't know enough about them.

@unstartedartist

Жыл бұрын

Agree about the location. As far as time period, it seemed to be late renaissance/early victorian age vibes. Everything in terms of world building was so vague and derivative and it’s impossible to get a sense of anything beyond the basic outline. There were basically only two places… the main city and the town where the mansion was. Everything else was vaguely described to the point of being nonexistent. Overall, it felt lifeless.

@gabrielhereth8233

Жыл бұрын

You’re spot on with the twists!

@gabrielhereth8233

Жыл бұрын

@@unstartedartist also, I disagree, it didn’t feel lifeless, it was more of a healthy blend of time periods. After all, what is fantasy without a little creativity?

Finally someone who feels like i do. It doesnt do anything unique besides its magic system.

You are correct - You are probably wrong.

Seems like prose are a real point of contention, not just in the video but in the comments. I don't mind them in the slightest. The characters in Mistborn aren't nearly as developed as the ones in the Stormlight Archives. Mistborn was, I believe, his second published book? I would say that overall Way of Kings is much higher quality, but it still has the same feel of a videogame or anime style story and simple prose. That's just sort of the Sanderson Brand. He writes that way on purpose. It sucks that you don't enjoy his works, I've had a lot of fun with them personally, but yeah, can't say I think you'd like anything else of his based on your preferences.

I liked the first in this trilogy but if you already feel this way, you would have hated the second book. It is at least a thousand times worse. I read the third to round it out and didn’t get any closure.

He's kinda like the Bob Ross of fantasy writers: Not perhaps quite a perfect analogy, but, it fits in the main places.

The Way of Kings is Mistborn where each book is 2x as long.

I respect brandan sanderson. But Mistborn is really meh to me. One more thing you missed is the plot seems kind of repetitive at times. Like kelsier and vin traveling from city A to B and B to A without any real purpose. The world feels dull and empty most of the time. Take stephen king, the way he describes derry in IT is like you just live in derry while reading. That truly is a miss in mistborn.

I read it...for hours...for days...but I just stopped about 2/3 of the way through the book. The book is endlessly boring. And that magic system with metal swallowing simply doesn't make sense to me. I didn't like that.

The Malezan books are awesome. The author was an accomplished anthropologist who then earned his MFA from Iowa, the number one writing program in the country. Couldn’t be more accurate regarding Sanderson-juvenile, basic, hollow. I don’t understand his appeal. Keep on keeping, bro.

I keep looking for people on KZread to criticize this book and I couldn't find anything!!! This is one of the only high fantasy books I've read and I trusted the reviews so idk where to go from here. Kelsier's twist was lame.

Who hurt you

@unstartedartist

Жыл бұрын

brandon sanderson

@tommyleemeyer

Жыл бұрын

@@unstartedartist oh, right

@David-dv5ov

7 ай бұрын

@@unstartedartistbased

@starmoalitiny

3 ай бұрын

@@unstartedartistLOL🤣

@theothermorgan

3 ай бұрын

Why did you think anyone would care about a low effort copy and paste criticism like that?

Brandon Sanderson is a YA writer. If people would just come to terms with that it would put his books in a more proper light.

@unstartedartist

11 ай бұрын

agree